It was all so easy to do for the late , great Mr Garth Hudson. He had the talent , skill and abilities to play 3 different melodies simultaneously , without getting mixed up ...WOW!!!! He added 17 chord progressions to The Band's repertoire for God sakes ! The most advanced and brilliant musician of the Rock era .... incomparable !
I sometimes wondered if Garth was the steady influence in The Band that kept things on the rails. It always appeared that three-fifths of the band were self-destructive and that Robbie as the creative 'leader' couldn't control them. That seemed to come over in The Last Waltz interviews, in which Garth hardly featured. Perhaps it was in the editing but that was always my impression. How sad that the boys are all gone now.
Garth Hudson actually joined the Hawks in late 1961! He had previously played mostly Saxophone in bands locally in Ontario, don’t forget about that skill he had too. The BAND were a unique combo in many ways at the time, two Keyboards and one guitar usually it is reversed . The only other band at the time , 60’s like that I can think of is Procol Harum . But the BAND had 3 lead singers , sometimes 4 if Levon let Robbie sing! Anyway RIP GARTH.
@@GurungyNoHamuster Surely no sane person takes Kiss seriously at all? Possibly the worst assemblage of non-talents ever to get lucky. No wonder they needed the make-up/superheroes gimmick to appeal to 'murican teen boys.
1st Match of 6 nations this year, the Stade De France sang the Marseille... (The French National Anthem) with zero accompaniment. Most powerful anthem ever.
That's a top anthem for sure. Only one to stir you more -- especially if you listen to it with the English translation -- is the mighty Russian anthem. The versions by the children's choir and massed army choir on YT are epic! P.S. The UK national anthem sucks both in terms of tune and lyrics. It's a dirge, and even if you're a royalist the words are terrible and dated. New anthem urgently required (though not one for modern (woke) audiences, please).
The heyday of Rock music was 1967-79. During that period the best bands from the States were (in my view) The Doors, The Band, The Eagles, Steely Dan and Lynyrd Skynyrd. British groups like The Stones and The Who have become legendary simply by carrying on for so long. Let's not overlook the great (Small) Faces either!
In my humble opinion, I think The Grateful Dead and Steely Dan are among the five or six greatest bands of all time. Up there with the Beatles, Stones and Zep. Just sayin!
I can match Howard Jones. Was taken to IoW and can remember most of it. But on the long long car ride north I was puzzled by my car mates moaning about the Doors performance. This puzzled me because I couldn't remember them playing. Exhaustion wiped them out of my memory.
I've heard that Doors set on CD and it's not as bad as people claim, featuring two epics; The End and When the Music's Over plus solid versions of Light My Fire and Break on Through.. among others. The fans were suffering from a cool wind and the lacklustre stage lighting, bathing the band in a single red light. Jim hardly moved throughout, apparently. It's certainly a lot better than an LA gig CD from around the same time where Jim is insufferable and got triggered by audience comments, ruining the performance by getting stroppy.
@@iandunbar8216 Wow! That's depressing -- missing one of the most iconic live sets ever. My pal Pale Pete was there too and went down with a bug, missing most of it but hearing some from his tent (even more grim way of missing out on the legends?) You can see it on DVD now (or YT?) but it's not the same. At least you can say you were there!
@PaIaeoCIive1684 To be fair I was 15 and found the going physically tough, and the Doors weren't who I was most excited to see, so I wasn't that upset at the time. I was there to see Taste, Family, Joni, The Who, Free, Jethro Tull and Jimi. All of whom I can recall vividly. Weird thing is I remember the Who set, which began about 2am I think, but not the Doors who preceded them. Perhaps it was the extra volume woke me up!
@@iandunbar8216 That's quite a line-up! Some of my favourite acts right there. Imagine a Glastonbury with those names instead of the 90% shite nowadays. The Hendrix and Who sets were good, I recall (saw the film) and Joni, just with her and guitar mostly, was OK too. You were so lucky to grow up in a golden age for music. Mine, late 70's to early 80's, was OK but the scene peaked in the early 70s. Cool!
Could you not say that THE BEATLES set that template for a Rock band as a whole to be marketed and presented as THE ACT? Before that it was always a solo Star , Elvis, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis etc…with a backing combo. George Martin actually saw that he was going to keep The Beatles as they were with 3 lead singers, Lennon or McCartney dominating but all 4 getting the spotlight. Absolutely the best Bands were British…modern era from 90’s on doesn’t really count.
we used to treat guns and roses as a joke, ....paradise city had every cliche in the book...........Little feat , Lynyrd skynyrd and ZZtop arre three great US rock bands, but yeah there is a difference between brit bands and yank bands, of course australia had some great rock too, except you guys never heard most of it, well except AC/DC
About the Americans/British bands segment: your thoughts on The Replacements, specially from Let it Be onwards? The thing The Replacemnets didn't obtain in any shape or form was the grandiosity of those British acts. And they sabotage any chance of that, probably out of fear of not being able to compete on that level. But, besides that, they were up there
"There is no great American rock band"? Not sure about that, Dave. Maybe The Doors? Maybe CCR? Maybe REM? Maybe the E Street Band? All had better songs than Bad Company.
Good call and if I may add to the debate Wishbone Ash pre dated and made more good albums than the Allman Brothers,,,,,,,,twin lead guitars? Andy Powell and Ted Turner wrote the book!
@joeinjun401 I'm just not keen on their bland and commercial version of rock. Since they charge high ticket prices and mime now I dislike them even more. Some Americana I'm keen on incl. Byrds and Midlake, but The Eagles I find quite tedious. Creedance are OK as they're more authentic. The Dude agrees.
I would say absolutely not. Listen to Up On Cripple Creek, for example. It rolls, man, it rolls. The other day I saw a snippet of an interview with Levon Helm where he said he cut the tempo in half so he could give the backbeat some wallop, some funk. I'm not into flinging around categories because I've witnessed too many stupid arguments about who was the first metal band. I've heard the Band described as Americana or proto-Americana or whatever, FWIW. To me, the Band are like the Band, they're pretty unique. Who invented "rock"? I guess Deep Purple are as good a guess as any as they were a hard rock band who were influenced more by European classical than by blues music, without going prog. Though Ritchie Blackmore could play bluesy stuff.
Never bought an American rock band album in my life.,To me all they did was turn up the amps, no originality whatsoever. The eagles are a prime example of their so called rock.
The Band say no more.
Absolutely fantastic..
It was all so easy to do for the late , great Mr Garth Hudson. He had the talent , skill and abilities to play 3 different melodies simultaneously , without getting mixed up ...WOW!!!! He added 17 chord progressions to The Band's repertoire for God sakes ! The most advanced and brilliant musician of the Rock era .... incomparable !
Not to forget the great Allman Brothers 🎸
Yes, I was thinking of them too during the discussion of American rock bands. Probably the closest to the British bands mentioned.
I sometimes wondered if Garth was the steady influence in The Band that kept things on the rails. It always appeared that three-fifths of the band were self-destructive and that Robbie as the creative 'leader' couldn't control them. That seemed to come over in The Last Waltz interviews, in which Garth hardly featured. Perhaps it was in the editing but that was always my impression. How sad that the boys are all gone now.
Garth Hudson actually joined the Hawks in late 1961! He had previously played mostly Saxophone in bands locally in Ontario, don’t forget about that skill he had too. The BAND were a unique combo in many ways at the time, two Keyboards and one guitar usually it is reversed . The only other band at the time , 60’s like that I can think of is Procol Harum . But the BAND had 3 lead singers , sometimes 4 if Levon let Robbie sing! Anyway RIP GARTH.
I found the segment on great rock bands really self-indulgent and wide of the mark.
If one has no comprehension of ZZTop before Eliminator, and imagines Kiss was a rock band, they might agree with the premise.
@@GurungyNoHamuster Surely no sane person takes Kiss seriously at all? Possibly the worst assemblage of non-talents ever to get lucky. No wonder they needed the make-up/superheroes gimmick to appeal to 'murican teen boys.
@@GurungyNoHamuster Early ZZ Top were a very good bar band but that's all, and Kiss were always pure pantomime.
1st Match of 6 nations this year, the Stade De France sang the Marseille... (The French National Anthem) with zero accompaniment. Most powerful anthem ever.
That's a top anthem for sure. Only one to stir you more -- especially if you listen to it with the English translation -- is the mighty Russian anthem. The versions by the children's choir and massed army choir on YT are epic!
P.S. The UK national anthem sucks both in terms of tune and lyrics. It's a dirge, and even if you're a royalist the words are terrible and dated. New anthem urgently required (though not one for modern (woke) audiences, please).
The heyday of Rock music was 1967-79. During that period the best bands from the States were (in my view) The Doors, The Band, The Eagles, Steely Dan and Lynyrd Skynyrd. British groups like The Stones and The Who have become legendary simply by carrying on for so long. Let's not overlook the great (Small) Faces either!
More laws of music from David and Mark please.
In my humble opinion, I think The Grateful Dead and Steely Dan are among the five or six greatest bands of all time. Up there with the Beatles, Stones and Zep. Just sayin!
Garth Hudson died on the day I saw A Complete Unknown
I can match Howard Jones. Was taken to IoW and can remember most of it. But on the long long car ride north I was puzzled by my car mates moaning about the Doors performance. This puzzled me because I couldn't remember them playing. Exhaustion wiped them out of my memory.
I've heard that Doors set on CD and it's not as bad as people claim, featuring two epics; The End and When the Music's Over plus solid versions of Light My Fire and Break on Through.. among others. The fans were suffering from a cool wind and the lacklustre stage lighting, bathing the band in a single red light. Jim hardly moved throughout, apparently. It's certainly a lot better than an LA gig CD from around the same time where Jim is insufferable and got triggered by audience comments, ruining the performance by getting stroppy.
@PaIaeoCIive1684 I still can't recall any of it. My so called friends. Never forgave them for not waking me up, the barstewards
@@iandunbar8216 Wow! That's depressing -- missing one of the most iconic live sets ever. My pal Pale Pete was there too and went down with a bug, missing most of it but hearing some from his tent (even more grim way of missing out on the legends?) You can see it on DVD now (or YT?) but it's not the same. At least you can say you were there!
@PaIaeoCIive1684 To be fair I was 15 and found the going physically tough, and the Doors weren't who I was most excited to see, so I wasn't that upset at the time. I was there to see Taste, Family, Joni, The Who, Free, Jethro Tull and Jimi. All of whom I can recall vividly. Weird thing is I remember the Who set, which began about 2am I think, but not the Doors who preceded them. Perhaps it was the extra volume woke me up!
@@iandunbar8216 That's quite a line-up! Some of my favourite acts right there. Imagine a Glastonbury with those names instead of the 90% shite nowadays. The Hendrix and Who sets were good, I recall (saw the film) and Joni, just with her and guitar mostly, was OK too. You were so lucky to grow up in a golden age for music. Mine, late 70's to early 80's, was OK but the scene peaked in the early 70s. Cool!
Could you not say that THE BEATLES set that template for a Rock band as a whole to be marketed and presented as THE ACT? Before that it was always a solo Star , Elvis, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis etc…with a backing combo. George Martin actually saw that he was going to keep The Beatles as they were with 3 lead singers, Lennon or McCartney dominating but all 4 getting the spotlight. Absolutely the best Bands were British…modern era from 90’s on doesn’t really count.
The Beach Boys Surfin Safari came out a year before the Beatles Please Please Me but the gold standard rock bands are mostly British.
we used to treat guns and roses as a joke, ....paradise city had every cliche in the book...........Little feat , Lynyrd skynyrd and ZZtop arre three great US rock bands, but yeah there is a difference between brit bands and yank bands, of course australia had some great rock too, except you guys never heard most of it, well except AC/DC
Lynyrd Skynrd og lineup all dead
'..some skinny bint' - welcome back Dave.
About the Americans/British bands segment: your thoughts on The Replacements, specially from Let it Be onwards? The thing The Replacemnets didn't obtain in any shape or form was the grandiosity of those British acts. And they sabotage any chance of that, probably out of fear of not being able to compete on that level. But, besides that, they were up there
Were they not just the band that people who found Hüsker Dü too fast and noisy listened to?
@@loratadine921If you think their first 2 albuns, maybe. But, as I said, from Let It Be onwards they're absolutely not!
We invented basically everything so yes
"There is no great American rock band"? Not sure about that, Dave. Maybe The Doors? Maybe CCR? Maybe REM? Maybe the E Street Band? All had better songs than Bad Company.
Good call and if I may add to the debate Wishbone Ash pre dated and made more good albums than the Allman Brothers,,,,,,,,twin lead guitars? Andy Powell and Ted Turner wrote the book!
"Wishbone Ash" is a regular punchline on this podcast.
Up to Argus I'd agree. After that they seemed to lose their way creatively and never matched it again.
Garth Hudson looks like Kurtwood Smith!
The Sweet infinitely superior to Godawful New York Dolls
I'm with The Dude Lebowski on The Eagles. They suck, man.
My late Mother agreed and never forgave Joe Walsh for leaving The James Gang. Unfortunately my middle sister loves them. Mum knew best.
@joeinjun401 I'm just not keen on their bland and commercial version of rock. Since they charge high ticket prices and mime now I dislike them even more. Some Americana I'm keen on incl. Byrds and Midlake, but The Eagles I find quite tedious. Creedance are OK as they're more authentic. The Dude agrees.
Eve Of Construction ...😂😂😂
Cactus? Vanilla Fudge? Cream?
Cream are British, aren't they? Cactus and VF are quite cool.
I dunno, weren't Dylan and The Hawks the first 'rock' - as opposed to rock 'n' roll or R&B - band?
I would say absolutely not. Listen to Up On Cripple Creek, for example. It rolls, man, it rolls. The other day I saw a snippet of an interview with Levon Helm where he said he cut the tempo in half so he could give the backbeat some wallop, some funk. I'm not into flinging around categories because I've witnessed too many stupid arguments about who was the first metal band. I've heard the Band described as Americana or proto-Americana or whatever, FWIW. To me, the Band are like the Band, they're pretty unique.
Who invented "rock"? I guess Deep Purple are as good a guess as any as they were a hard rock band who were influenced more by European classical than by blues music, without going prog. Though Ritchie Blackmore could play bluesy stuff.
Never bought an American rock band album in my life.,To me all they did was turn up the amps, no originality whatsoever. The eagles are a prime example of their so called rock.
The great bands are British? Duh!...
...MC5 ?......Iggy and The Stooges ?