WHY do pilots say HEAVY? Wake Turbulence EXPLAINED BY CAPTAIN JOE

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  • @G0lia7h_at
    @G0lia7h_at 4 роки тому +984

    I love how joe says "you as a pilot", sitting here watching your videos while I should do my studies for my architecture exam.

    • @taylorb1881
      @taylorb1881 4 роки тому +10

      G0lia7h Ayeeee I’m in 4th year architecture! I have an obsession with planes too haha Good luck on your exams!

    • @bertdejonghe3303
      @bertdejonghe3303 4 роки тому +1

      😂🤣we as pilots,.... shouldn't we know then why our colleagues keep on saying that they are obees over the radio? 😂

    • @chemieju6305
      @chemieju6305 4 роки тому +19

      But hey, you learned something about roofing

    • @romainb.7675
      @romainb.7675 4 роки тому +3

      I am so much in the same situation as you, also delaying architecture studies...

    • @nitehawk86
      @nitehawk86 4 роки тому +3

      Make sure you design houses with appropriate tiles if they are near airports. :)

  • @ussling
    @ussling 4 роки тому +1102

    I deal with wake turbulence every morning when the alarm clock sounds.

    • @RoamingAdhocrat
      @RoamingAdhocrat 4 роки тому +12

      Sleep inertia :)

    • @lauradehaan3690
      @lauradehaan3690 4 роки тому +17

      Whaha thank you you made me laugh lol!!

    • @joeydunn9358
      @joeydunn9358 4 роки тому +19

      The most accurate interpretation of waking up that has ever been made

    • @ltnlchannel6215
      @ltnlchannel6215 4 роки тому +10

      when I am late to work... I USE A LOCKHEED MARTIN SR-71 BLACKBIRD

    • @zeeto72893
      @zeeto72893 4 роки тому +1

      Listen here you little shit.

  • @joshiamruthrajkatari
    @joshiamruthrajkatari 5 років тому +423

    I'm an air traffic controller. I love your explanation
    P - Pilot C- Controller
    …………
    P: Bombay approach, Air India 124 heavy..
    C: Air India 124 heavy, Bombay approach heavy..
    P: Confirm approach heavy..
    C: Affirm, I'm 121 kg
    P: Roger (chuckling)
    …………
    Funny chat shared by one of my instructors with a pilot during his active duty at VABB.

    • @bluemarshall6180
      @bluemarshall6180 5 років тому +8

      Joshi ATCO Roger...

    • @PlanesAndGames732
      @PlanesAndGames732 5 років тому +4

      And about the Super Hiper F***ing Heavy An-225?
      Aviões e Jogos 001 Heavy

    • @upasnasharma1873
      @upasnasharma1873 5 років тому +2

      FILCO joshi

    • @jmitterii2
      @jmitterii2 5 років тому +1

      @@PlanesAndGames732 That's a super heavy or "super"
      Following aircraft Minimum radar separation
      Preceding aircraft
      Super Aircraft Following and distance:
      Super 4 NM
      Heavy 6 NM
      Large 7 NM
      Small 8 NM
      Proceeding aircraft: Heavy or a Boeing 757[8]
      Following:
      Heavy 4 NM
      Large 5 NM
      Small 6 NM

    • @psnetwork3883
      @psnetwork3883 5 років тому +1

      Where do u work

  • @smegskull
    @smegskull 5 років тому +501

    "Ohh no the new A380 can carry too much we need a new category for it."
    40yr old Antanov - "I'm sorry, what was that?"

    • @jondickison5802
      @jondickison5802 4 роки тому +24

      Or the C5 Galaxy

    • @shiningarmor2838
      @shiningarmor2838 4 роки тому +8

      There was only one Mriya ever built.

    • @alfredomarquez9777
      @alfredomarquez9777 4 роки тому +34

      @@shiningarmor2838 Oh yeah... BUT IT STILL IS THE BIGGEST, LARGEST AND MOST AWESOME, even when it is NOT american....

    • @georgekanulas9037
      @georgekanulas9037 4 роки тому +3

      @@alfredomarquez9777 nor the airbus is

    • @briankristiansen821
      @briankristiansen821 4 роки тому +6

      Well you learn something new everyday. I have always thougth it was bc they carried passengers 😁

  • @patstokes3615
    @patstokes3615 4 роки тому +40

    Joe I'm not a pilot, I never fly, I'm 71 and a female and really enjoy your videos. I'm amazed at how much you need to know, remember and be able to grab out of your memory at any moment. I'm totally impressed and have learned what a fabulous piece of equipment a jet airplane is.

    • @kennedyomondy1926
      @kennedyomondy1926 3 роки тому

      I would love to be on a plane, would you pay my ticket from Kenya to USA

  • @EduardoTroconis
    @EduardoTroconis 4 роки тому +103

    Great video, Captain!
    I like your closing line: "a good pilot is always learning". I think that applies to all professions.

    • @thebeaz1
      @thebeaz1 3 роки тому

      Thank you for that blinding brilliance.

    • @EduardoTroconis
      @EduardoTroconis 3 роки тому +4

      @@thebeaz1 You're welcome, just let me know when you need more

    • @thebeaz1
      @thebeaz1 3 роки тому

      and?

    • @vehicleboi5598
      @vehicleboi5598 2 роки тому

      A good hangman is always learning!

  • @PilotAlexander
    @PilotAlexander 6 років тому +273

    Amazing Joe, thank you so much for the information. It’s an honor for me to appear in your video 😊

    • @flywithcaptainjoe
      @flywithcaptainjoe  6 років тому +37

      I´m very thankful for your great input my dear colleague! Hope to see you soon!

    • @ray-Bolantah
      @ray-Bolantah 6 років тому +19

      Bro-mance is in the air. Pilots be aware!

    • @valentinchirpalovmusic1009
      @valentinchirpalovmusic1009 6 років тому +1

      Hey guys!!, what is going on with those 2 stripes on your shoulders?? As I know 3 is 2nd pilot and 4 is captain?

    • @stonebridge6489
      @stonebridge6489 6 років тому

      Thanks for the lesson Capt Joe. I am 45 years old and have always wanted to be a commercial pilot. Is it too late for me to pursue this dream?

    • @PilotAlexander
      @PilotAlexander 6 років тому +2

      poze 96 it depend of the company, I’m First officier and I have 2, but very soon I’m turning senior first officier and I’ll have 3 stripes

  • @stevefick3919
    @stevefick3919 4 роки тому +31

    Very cool. I just thought that "heavy" meant a large, fully loaded aircraft.
    We live close to an airport, so there are 7-6-7's and 7-5-7's (cargo) flying over quite often. Where we live is quite quiet. So much so, that you can hear the wake turbulence wooshing around above you after the plane has passed. Really cool sound!

  • @JoseRodriguez-lp7rs
    @JoseRodriguez-lp7rs 4 роки тому +505

    Me: (says heavy)
    Atc: sir you're flying a little Cessna
    Me: yeah but I'm with my MIL

  • @valeriedemello1794
    @valeriedemello1794 3 роки тому +50

    Always wondered about the "heavy ", thank you for taking the time.

    • @thebeaz1
      @thebeaz1 3 роки тому +1

      all 3 seconds........

  • @dragancrnogorac3851
    @dragancrnogorac3851 6 років тому +1337

    Concord must say:"FAST BOSS" or "DADDY HERE"

    • @ellenorbjornsdottir1166
      @ellenorbjornsdottir1166 6 років тому +14

      Dragan Crnogorac Concorde is "Heavy Concorde"

    • @samsam.03
      @samsam.03 6 років тому +64

      Or droop snoot

    • @1_2_die2
      @1_2_die2 6 років тому +13

      What had SR-71 to say in this case?

    • @matthewvincent8971
      @matthewvincent8971 6 років тому +26

      Yeah speed bird doesn't seem to do it justice. Maybe "Move over or I'm going in dry..."

    • @chrispbacon3042
      @chrispbacon3042 6 років тому +1

      1_2_Die SR-71 use to take off from military airforce base only.

  • @jmurphy1973
    @jmurphy1973 6 років тому +126

    Speedbird will always and forever be the best callsign.

  • @MrRobbie545
    @MrRobbie545 5 років тому +26

    “Anytime you learn something your mind expands” Thank you for the very informative video!

    • @sharcc2511
      @sharcc2511 4 роки тому

      ...I think that's meningitis.

  • @xcab66
    @xcab66 5 років тому +118

    We all miss the Concord, Captain. Even people born after it was decommissioned probably miss it!

    • @joelzammy7967
      @joelzammy7967 4 роки тому +6

      One of the most beautiful designs ever

    • @everettrailfan
      @everettrailfan 4 роки тому +5

      Yes, yes we do.

    • @LTLT900
      @LTLT900 4 роки тому +3

      And probably people who havent even been born yet!

    • @ЦветозарЦветков-е5о
      @ЦветозарЦветков-е5о 4 роки тому +3

      very true i am one of them but at least ive been in one

    • @npc6817
      @npc6817 4 роки тому +2

      if we can't get the concorde back let's put afterburners on a 747 and see how it goes.

  • @Jesse-cx4si
    @Jesse-cx4si 5 років тому +17

    The amount of information pilots, and especially traffic controllers, deal with at any given moment of time is hard to believe. Props to the super multi-taskers!!!

  • @geraldhimmelspach1154
    @geraldhimmelspach1154 6 років тому +94

    Excellent vid. Have studied physics and engineering but never ran into this. Wish I took pilot training, but told you have to put up about $80.000 to become commercial or airline pilot. Back in 1985, coughed and went to oilfield. Life missed

    • @747-pilot
      @747-pilot 6 років тому +31

      You can always do it as a hobby (that is get a private pilot's license and an instrument rating). In the US, a PPL would cost you around $15,000 and an instrument rating another $15,000, including the 50 hrs of required cross country. (but you don't necessarily have to get it, if you don't plan on flying in inclement weather).
      I'm an Engineer too. Just graduated 3 years back in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science from UC Berkeley. I started PPL training back in 2016, and at that time was going to do it, mostly to satisfy my passion for aviation. But when I got my PPL about a year back, the "pilot shortage" began to really make headlines.
      So I'm now finishing up my instrument training and might give a professional pilot career a shot. And at 39 years, I'm not all that young, either!! As a kid, I always wanted to be an airline pilot, but as you said, it's insanely expensive, and back then the airline industry was very volatile and unstable. And, after spending all that money, you had to work for a quarter of your life at slave wages, in terrible working conditions, before you started making some decent money. So it did not make sense at all.
      If I was faced with that choice today, would I do it differently?? Absolutely NOT! Yes, there is a pilot shortage right now, but the airline business is always extremely unpredictable! Stuff like 9/11 or a global economic crash could turn things around on a dime!
      So I would always recommend to anyone, to get into a stable field like engineering or a health related field (Doctor, nurse, pharmacist etc.), work a couple years to gain experience and THEN pursue a professional airline career. That way, you have an "out", and also you can do it on your own pace, with the money you make at your primary job to fund the training! (as I did).
      The beauty of it (at least for me), is if I don't like it, or things in the airline business go south, I can always go back to what I'm doing now, considering my qualifications and experience!

    • @Zzznorch
      @Zzznorch 5 років тому +9

      My high school had a course in aviation back in the late 1970's and we learned the basics of flying a plane including several flights operating Cessna's. At the time, we were told that the most cost effective way to get training in aviation was to join the military. Put in several years as a military pilot and then retire to join an airline. This was especially true if you wanted to fly helicopters.

    • @45omerta
      @45omerta 5 років тому +2

      Whoever told you that it cost 80k was lying or ignorant. It doesn't cost no where near that amount. 20k should do you just fine and you might wanna get an extra 10k for extra flight hours.

    • @georgeb8701
      @georgeb8701 5 років тому +2

      @@747-pilot So what about flying for commercial cargo carriers instead of passenger airlines? I would expect hiring criteria, experience, would be different? Would that provide another more viable to pursue your passion? I'd like to know your thoughts. I've always loved planes and the thought of being able to fly. Never pursued it. At this stage of the game (62) I don't think it's feasible. $ being the biggest factor. It would be a shame if you didn't pursue the dream after all the time, training, and experience you've acquired. ✌🇺🇸

    • @747-pilot
      @747-pilot 5 років тому +2

      @@georgeb8701 From what I know, there is virtually no difference in terms of hiring criteria etc. between the airlines and cargo operators. One of the reasons is, for the most part, they operate the same kind of aircraft as the airlines, except that they are the freighter versions.
      And most of them are considered "major carriers" anyways (like Fedex, UPS, Cargolux etc.). Besides, a good chunk of them are just Freight divisions of the airlines (like Cathay Pacific Cargo).
      While I'm one to always say "age is just a number", I think at 62, it would be unrealistic to make it to the major airlines, but if you REALLY wanted it bad, you could at least fly as a First Officer, for the REGIONAL AIRLINES, as they have a very severe shortage.
      That said, as you correctly pointed out, it would require a lot of $$$ as you would have to do it very quickly (going the accelerated training route), and then start building your time at breakneck pace, as a flight instructor, to build the required 1500 hours needed to fly as a First Officer.
      Theoretically, you could do all your training and instructing in about 1.5 years, and then then fly for another 1.5 years for the airlines. And considering the severe shortage of both flight instructors and pilots at the regionals, a super dedicated person could definitely pull this off.
      However, there is no denying that the above scenario would be very challenging, and you would have very little buffer to make mistakes or fail.
      So, IMHO, a more realistic option at 62, would be to pursue it a hobby, and even possibly a career in FLIGHT INSTRUCTING. There is no age limit to how long you can instruct, and I know a couple really great instructors in the early-to-mid EIGHTIES doing it a nearby school!!

  • @sezziek1
    @sezziek1 6 років тому +53

    What a lovely description, "aircraft lined up to land like pearls on a necklace". Love it 😂❤️✈️

  • @TRICK-OR-TREAT236
    @TRICK-OR-TREAT236 6 років тому +316

    HE AIN'T HEAVY ! .................................. HE'S MY PILOT.

  • @nssherlock4547
    @nssherlock4547 4 роки тому +2

    I Lived near Mascot airport in Sydney, planes came over so low you could see passenger's faces.A noise that we would hear is this back and forth swishing sound after the plane landed, it was like stereo channels left right playing in the sky, this was the swirling vortices from the Jets. An eerie sound.

  • @bigboat8329
    @bigboat8329 5 років тому +9

    Wingtip vertices also reduce fuel efficiency, which is precisely why many aircraft have winglets on the tips of their wings to decrease these vertices.

  • @ZinXlX
    @ZinXlX 5 років тому +20

    I'm no pilot and have no desire to be one but somehow these pilot videos were in my recommended and I am now on my 3rd vid.... overall am not disappointed, everything said was rather interesting.

    • @thebeaz1
      @thebeaz1 3 роки тому

      We're very happy for you.

  • @marinquartel
    @marinquartel 4 роки тому +15

    07:12 "especially with passengers on board" 😂 I can see the panic😂

  • @AddonCMerly-yq2hf
    @AddonCMerly-yq2hf 6 років тому +6

    It's always exciting when the notification from Captain Joe Pops up the screen after a new upload! 😃

  • @rvnmedic1968
    @rvnmedic1968 2 роки тому +1

    Back in the 1970s, I remember seeing an article in Scientific American re wake turbulence. What was really cool about it was the FAA testing facility in NJ that had tall towers separated far enough apart for a commercial airliner to fly through. The towers had smoke cannons aiming at each other in various colors. The wake turbulence was dramatic. Excellent explanation, Captain Joe. Cheers, Bob.

  • @davidlegeros1914
    @davidlegeros1914 Місяць тому

    Good work, Captain! Especially regarding the Concorde! I started my aviation career working the ramp at JFK and would time my breaks to watch Air France and Speedbird take off and land, two airplanes in the morning, and two in the evening. It never got old!

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 4 роки тому +25

    Wake turbulence also rips tiles off homes roofs around airports.

    • @frankpriolo7735
      @frankpriolo7735 3 роки тому +3

      Maybe they should not have built their home near a major airport. Most of the big airports predate the neighboring homes

    • @thebeaz1
      @thebeaz1 3 роки тому

      No it doesn't, never.

    • @thebeaz1
      @thebeaz1 3 роки тому +1

      @@frankpriolo7735 Why?

  • @BoltonBolt
    @BoltonBolt 6 років тому +31

    A glider flier a little higher that the tug plane so that it does not get destabilized due to the wake turbulence of the tug plane. Also this is why the tail horizontal stabilizer (the one with the elevators) is sometimes placed higher than the main wing or have a dihedral or anhedral to get out of the way of the wake turbulence caused by the main wing.

    • @Alupl
      @Alupl 6 років тому

      As far as i experienced there's a lot more trouble from the engine of the tug plane, and that's the main reason to stay above that ;)
      And about the horizontal stabilizer mounted higher than the main wing there are several reasons, that one probably also but i mostly heard about resistance for high grass and ease of disassemble :)

    • @soaringhal
      @soaringhal 6 років тому

      Most modern gliders have their horisontal stabilizer mounted high for several reasons, main reasons being:
      1 - Fewer parts and simpler connection / control hook-up when rigging/de-rigging
      2 - Simpler structure = lighter parts
      3 - Out of the way relative to tall grass / ground obstacles in the event of an outlanding and general ground handling.
      4 - Stabilizer is kept outside the turbulence coming off the fuselage & wings.
      The tug do create wake turbulence but the glider need to be below the tug in order to feel it. The ideal position of the glider relative to the tug is in the direct line between propeller axis and tug stabilizer. In this position the tug pilot will feel very little, if any, vertical pull from the glider trailing behind.

    • @althalus401
      @althalus401 6 років тому +3

      The glider flying above the towplane to avoid wake turbulence is not strictly true. There are two positions, high tow, which is just above the prop wash of the tow plane, and low tow which is just below the prop wash. High tow is normally used for launching and low tow used for cross country tows. Personally I remain in high tow for the early climb and then switch down to low tow for the climb. With modern gliders the low tow position tends to be more stable and lessens the likelehood of losing sight of the tug, very bad news as the immediate action if you do lose sight of the tug is to release.

    • @charlesbecker3470
      @charlesbecker3470 5 років тому

      Is this why the Martin flying boats of WWII had such a severe dihedral in the horizontal stabilizer?

    • @althalus401
      @althalus401 5 років тому +1

      @@charlesbecker3470 Tailplane anhedral is used to increase pitch down elevator authority at high angles of attack, high alpha in todays parlance. It ensures that at least part of the elevator is not in the dirty air of the wing, so the answer to your question would be yes. One of the best examples is the F4 Phantom. A T tail has the same effect and is fitted to a large number of modern gliders for that reason and it lessens the opportunity for damage when landing out in unprepared fields.

  • @Th3Shrike
    @Th3Shrike 6 років тому +32

    Nice, this is one topic I been wondering about, please do more ATC terminologies

  • @jebsails2837
    @jebsails2837 5 років тому +1

    As a non-pilot I just enjoy these explanations. The math, angles, vectors etc, I used ,yonks ago, when in training for submarine fire control, to get the torpedo to the target. STD is not a disease rather speed x time = distance. Thanks again. Narragansett Bay

  • @kushalkedia2818
    @kushalkedia2818 4 роки тому +2

    I train at a flight school in Renton, WA, USA. This happens to be where Boeing's 737 factory is and so they are parked all over the airport and often takeoff from infront of us. I was in a Cessna 162 skycatcher (classified as light sport aircraft), taking off after a 737. The tower said I was cleared to takeoff as soon as the 737 departed. My Instructor quickly got on the mic and said uhhhhh we're gonna wait a bit.

  • @aaronh.7733
    @aaronh.7733 5 років тому +276

    "Write this down" .. me thinking why am I watching all his Vids as a Computer Scientist... lel

    • @ethantaylor5425
      @ethantaylor5425 5 років тому +17

      I work with dogs for a living, I don't know why I'm here either; but hey I'm entertained at least lol

    • @timcapell
      @timcapell 5 років тому +7

      Ethan Taylor me too. I’m an application developer...yet I’m entertained

    • @saftschinken2353
      @saftschinken2353 5 років тому

      Feel u

    • @MJLeger-yj1ww
      @MJLeger-yj1ww 5 років тому +2

      Because everyone can learn something; no one knows it ALL!

    • @amylee9
      @amylee9 5 років тому +3

      Ethan Taylor am a stay at home mom in my 40s and am watching these videos...

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz 5 років тому +59

    There's that word again. "Heavy." Why are things so heavy in the future? Is there a problem with the amount of wake turbulence.

  • @numbr17
    @numbr17 3 роки тому +3

    I really like this channel! Nice work Joe! Very informative, and plainly explained to those of us new to the content. Really appreciate this.

  • @travisgrant5608
    @travisgrant5608 4 роки тому +1

    This is your pilot Captain Butts speaking we have run out of fule. At this time we are asking ALL passengers to please strain and pass as much gas as possible to enable the engines to start up again so we can land safely. The flight attendants will be moving down the isles passing out cans of beens to help you in this endeavor. Thank you for your cooperation.

  • @oldmech619
    @oldmech619 4 роки тому +1

    I saw a dog run onto the runway at LAX 24L. Yep, a B767 was taking off. The dog went in the air 20 feet, spun 2 times. He died. The wing vortices are really powerful. Deadly.

  • @PlanesAndGames732
    @PlanesAndGames732 5 років тому +14

    WTC:
    L: Light
    M: Medium
    H: Heavy
    Super Heavy: A380
    Super Hiper Mega F***ing Heavy {or if you prefer Black Hole}: An-225

    • @alixena9340
      @alixena9340 4 роки тому

      That would be a Super Massive Black Hole

  • @ReyOfLight
    @ReyOfLight 5 років тому +12

    How come there’s ever so often turbulence right when you get an in-flight meal or drink served?! The whole flight can be calm when you don’t try to eat or drink anything, but as soon as the flight attendant comes with drinks or food, it’s like that funny old Jeep test video. Is it just Murphy’s laws? Or is it a conspiracy by the turbulence gods?

  • @OOZ662
    @OOZ662 5 років тому +5

    I've been getting into listening to ATC recordings recently, and was intrigued by the Antonov AN-225 and the Super on its callsign. Not to mention the bustle of the airport services running around picking up the chunks it tore out of various places on takeoff and landing.

  • @TheRealist2022
    @TheRealist2022 3 роки тому +1

    Extremely well explained, even to a sailor like me! A similar set up with respect to fluid dynamics. Eg, a ship with props rotating at full speed and then requiring an emergency stop does not put props in to full reverse as the turbulence caused by the props renders the water to be TOO fluid as to have no measurable effect. The best course of action is to put props to medium speed initially and depending on the situation gradually reduce the speed until reverse will have some effect. This was related to me by a Master Mariner and I THINK I've got it right... however, I am happy to be corrected.

  • @EmmaWalton123
    @EmmaWalton123 4 роки тому +1

    I will never forget that time when I was on a flight landing in LAX. As we were approaching the airport, all of a sudden the plane tipped over to the right at a 90 degree angle. I was staring at the roofs of these houses straight down. We all screamed and thought we were going down. We recovered shortly after and then the pilot came onto the PA announcing it was weight turbulence. That was how I learnt the term. It was horrifying and I hope never in my life again.

  • @TheLifeofAdamOnYoutube
    @TheLifeofAdamOnYoutube 6 років тому +16

    4:51 "and as Ikea regulates" hahaha sorry joe but I just can’t Unhear that😂

    • @QueenofSnarks
      @QueenofSnarks 3 роки тому

      I caught that, too. I had to put the subtitles on to make sure that's not what he said!

  • @MrLOLametro
    @MrLOLametro 6 років тому +62

    This video was SUPER! :)

    • @joshjenk1613
      @joshjenk1613 6 років тому +2

      LOLametro the content was pretty HEAVY if I do say so myself 😉

  • @lrodpeterson3046
    @lrodpeterson3046 6 років тому +11

    I've been gone from ATC for 20 years (after a 30 year career), so some things might have changed a bit. However, the threshold of "heavy separation" was triggered by the max gross weight capability of 300,000 lbs. For us in the center it only meant a mandatory five miles (which we used most of the time, anyway, especially after digitized radar came in). It was in the approach control/tower environment where it had more application.
    Interestingly, although the "heavy" label wasn't used in communications and they didn't meet the weight requirement, after the B757 was introduced, it was found that it generated roughly the same wake turbulence as its big brother, the 767. We were to apply the heavy separation to it as well.
    The A380 came out long after I retired, so I never worked one, I was surprised, after years of heavy 747s to hear of an even higher weight classification (super) and the attendant increased separation standards.
    Back in the '80s when the Air Force reengined many of their KC135s, it came to my attention that they were capable of 300K pounds (even if they weren't loaded to it), but the AF never filed them as H/KC135s. I lobbied loudly that they should, and eventually they started doing it. Was that little ol' me, out in the sticks at ZAU (Chicago ARTCC)? Who knows, but I'm proud I made some noise about it.

  • @paulcollyer801
    @paulcollyer801 3 роки тому +2

    No chance of me becoming a pilot anytime soon, but I’m a curious bunny.
    I always thought it meant they were fully loaded etc. This makes far more logical sense. Thank you

  • @tomatoknuckles
    @tomatoknuckles 5 років тому

    Id actully listen to you all day. Iv a bad fear of flying but listening to you makes me realise that pilots are very clever and puts me at ease.

  • @roninauen6288
    @roninauen6288 5 років тому +3

    Hello Capt Joe just a note to say I really enjoy and appreciate your channel keep up the great work..😊

  • @ollo1982
    @ollo1982 5 років тому +4

    Dude! Your videos are so good and informative! Keep up the awesome work Captain Joe! :)

  • @julianneale6128
    @julianneale6128 6 років тому +19

    Another great video. One thing though at 07:30, you can't always go around if you inadvertently fly into vortices from a 'heavy' as you may well not have enough control authority and no choice of where the aircraft will go. I remember being a student solo pilot in a C152 awaiting departure. A C130 Hercules 'heavy' took off and seconds later the tower cleared me for take off. Although I was fully awhere of the issues of this video, being a fresh new pilot and not wanting to upset anyone I slowly and cautiously taxied into the runway and lined up. I took my time but it had only been a minute or so... I opened the throttle to full and (just about) felt those little ponies pull me as hard as they could. I easily got airborne far befor the C130 ahead and climbed out. However I'd noticed the C130's climb angle was far greater than mine and when I was at a couple of hundred feet still above the runway on the upwind leg I intersected (found) his wake! Now I'm a very confident pilot who very much enjoys seat of the pants flying and throwing aeroplanes around the sky, but I will fully admit to not liking that experience at all! It was the lack of control and just being totally and dangerously blown around at extreme attitudes against my will despite all my corrective control inputs... After several seconds I had very clumsily traversed through this huge wake and my C152 started to fly normally again. I had learnt my lesson and then know, if you have reason to stop or wait, just talk to the tower and ask for separation!

    • @MJLeger-yj1ww
      @MJLeger-yj1ww 6 років тому +1

      You must have been at a military airport. Herc's and Spectre's don't land at civilian airports. And they fly different vectors than civvies! You should have "learnt" that in the beginning of your instruction and certainly learned it well by the time you solo. (Over-confidence kills, and NO pilot worth his salt "throws airplanes around the sky!")

    • @georgeb8701
      @georgeb8701 5 років тому

      Julian Neale Wow! talk about first hand experience! It sounds like your lucky to be able to tell the story. That's HEAVY duty dude! 😄✌🇺🇸

    • @starwarzchik112
      @starwarzchik112 2 роки тому

      Turns out you CAN’T always go around. The song lied to me!

  • @ellisc.foleyjr9778
    @ellisc.foleyjr9778 3 роки тому

    Seriously I really learn a lot from Captain Joe's explanations . as often as I've flown commercial or private I have often wondered about a lot of things that I know are going on but do not understand. he answers those questions for me. even though I am a layman-nonpilot I do have and interest and do care. Thank you Captain Joe for taking the time to do these video's even for us "poor souls" that sit on board trusting our pilots and copilots.

  • @geekguyilm
    @geekguyilm 5 років тому

    Thank you from a non-pilot who just enjoys listening to ATC transmissions as of recently. Definitely fulfilled my curiosity!

  • @mariebcfhs9491
    @mariebcfhs9491 5 років тому +152

    Pilot: "Speedbird Concorde 2 heavy"
    Plane: "I'm.. I'm not fat!"

    • @tartikiwi6607
      @tartikiwi6607 5 років тому +2

      :)))

    • @이주연-x4x
      @이주연-x4x 4 роки тому +4

      ICAO: Your delta wing and high angle of attack produce too much turbulence so you are catagorisied as heavy.
      People: You're sleek

    • @starstencahl8985
      @starstencahl8985 4 роки тому +5

      We need to put an end to airframe shaming!

    • @michaelmurray7199
      @michaelmurray7199 3 роки тому +1

      Muscle is more dense than fat, and Concorde has a good bit of lean muscle under her slim, streamlined silhouette.

  • @CaptShami
    @CaptShami 6 років тому +14

    I thought wake turbulence was caused by the thrust of the engines..
    I learned something new again

    • @rockomax2732
      @rockomax2732 6 років тому +3

      Capt.Shami
      That’s jet blast

    • @danielmoses6626
      @danielmoses6626 5 років тому

      Yes! I did too. Are you just learning this as a First Officer??

  • @Malisti04
    @Malisti04 5 років тому +10

    Thank you I think I'll know what do. I just need a plane now

  • @djcatron11
    @djcatron11 3 роки тому +1

    Wake turbulence was one factor of American Airlines flight 587, an Airbus A300 crashing after takeoff in New York. He followed a 747 and encountered wake turbulence and then used aggressive rudder inputs that ripped the stabilizer fin off the plane.

  • @anthonyames4596
    @anthonyames4596 5 років тому +2

    Your vids are awesome, they explain different aspects about flying that I’ve always wondered about in a manner that a non-pilot understand. Thank you!

  • @dailydoseswithdrake6423
    @dailydoseswithdrake6423 5 років тому +21

    “God I miss this plane”
    Me: SAMEEEEEEEEE. Concorde has to make a comeback. The world is in dire need of it.

    • @Malisti04
      @Malisti04 5 років тому

      Crowd funding?? 🤔 Hey?......
      It has to come back!

    • @arthilas_
      @arthilas_ 5 років тому +1

      A concorde wiith much more efficient engines would be really nice ;-)

    • @juliocamacho8354
      @juliocamacho8354 5 років тому

      Maybe passenger ultrasonic travel might be with Space X and or the BORING company in vacuum tubes underground. That might have a smaller cost compared to the $10k tickets of a concord. PS: I love the Concord and SR-71

  • @DWeirich76
    @DWeirich76 5 років тому +28

    I always appended the word "heavy" to my ex-wife's name whenever I referred to her. I just told her it was a pilot thing.

  • @just4therecord
    @just4therecord 5 років тому +20

    Ive never heard light or medium call out yet.. Initially I thought heavy means the plane is filled with a full tank of fuel 😂

    • @freednighthawk
      @freednighthawk 4 роки тому

      You wont hear medium, but when flying light, you'll usually start your interaction with the planes model and n-number. "Las Vegas tower, Cesna 424KW with you 6000"

    • @linda10989
      @linda10989 4 роки тому +1

      Me too...but I thought heavy also meant full of passengers as well

  • @richardbedard1245
    @richardbedard1245 5 років тому

    I'm not a pilot, never will be, but planes fascinate me. I live on the flight path of planes coming and going from the north to Atlanta, GA. Your explanations add so much to my understanding anything about flying. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

  • @Wolfshead009
    @Wolfshead009 5 років тому +1

    Can testify that helicopter turbulence is a concern. I was taking flight lessons at a military airfield and found myself (and instructor) behind a CH-47 Chinook on approach. That shortly lead to the example of how to execute a missed approach as soon as we hit the wakes. :)

  • @louisclaisse
    @louisclaisse 5 років тому +8

    i'm not in flight school i'm only 13 years old but becoming a pilote is my dream
    ( i love your channel ; ) )

    • @timmack2415
      @timmack2415 3 роки тому +1

      Follow your dreams @Louis

    • @nerdyism2523
      @nerdyism2523 3 роки тому +1

      "If you give up your dreams you die" - Kennedy Steve

  • @properyessir2431
    @properyessir2431 4 роки тому +9

    ‘Getting flipped over by a wake isn’t cool at all’ 😂😂

  • @AircraftGalaxy
    @AircraftGalaxy 6 років тому +4

    Thanks Joe
    In FSX i like flying Heavies the most

  • @donalittlefield6357
    @donalittlefield6357 5 років тому +1

    Have watched so many Aviation videos but did wonder about the "heavy" added onto some calls. Thank you so very much for this explanation! Made perfect sense and answered other questions I had as well! Most informative for this interested layman!

  • @longlakeshore
    @longlakeshore 4 роки тому

    Once when I was a student pilot on the downwind leg of the pattern doing touch-n-gos the tower extended my leg a bit to allow an MD-80 to land ahead of me. I put the Cessna in a gentle ascent gaining about 100 feet. When my instructor asked why I climbed I said, "To stay out of that guy's wake turbulence." I got kudos for knowing that. Moments later I was cleared to turn on base. The MD cleared the runway just as I turned on final and we were in for another TNG.

  • @aviationgear
    @aviationgear 6 років тому +224

    I flown with you :D I saw you in the cockpit :D (NICE LANDING)

    • @masonm1124
      @masonm1124 6 років тому +73

      CreepY SK He flies a cargo plane

    • @ghosteclipse8875
      @ghosteclipse8875 6 років тому +14

      The Mason dude nice shuttjng of creepY's moufh Lol.

    • @niklaskracht7486
      @niklaskracht7486 6 років тому +26

      The Mason dude But he used to fl, for Air Berlin

    • @IANNEIL77
      @IANNEIL77 6 років тому +44

      He flew for Air Berlin for a long time
      He's only been flying cargo aircraft for a short period of time
      He could of easily flew on the same aircraft as C_J

    • @aviationgear
      @aviationgear 6 років тому +50

      I flewn Air Berlin in past. Or? I was a cargo ? I do not know :D

  • @rinsatomi9527
    @rinsatomi9527 6 років тому +38

    "God I miss this plane."
    We know, Joe... We know ;)

  • @claudiocapurso8077
    @claudiocapurso8077 5 років тому +6

    Marty: Whoa, this is heavy.
    Doc: There's that word again: "heavy." Why are things so heavy in the future? Is there a problem with the Earth's gravitational pull?

  • @DaughteroftheKING_7
    @DaughteroftheKING_7 4 роки тому

    Thanks to quarantine not only have I started learning Spanish but now I'm also hooked on watching these videos about planes and pilot lingos from Pilot with a beautiful accent. Lol #NeverStopLearning

  • @mgytitanic1912
    @mgytitanic1912 2 роки тому +1

    I remember a tale told of a British Airways 747 at the end of the runway at heathrow asking permission to take off. The tower came back "Speed bird hold position, traffic on the runway. Tortoise" "Speed Bird, holding" Then after a few minutes the tower came back "Speed Bird cleared for take off, caution wake turbulence departing Tortoise" "Speed Bird, roger"

  • @tlabadiebutnot3405
    @tlabadiebutnot3405 4 роки тому +4

    I think the “Super” was invented before the A380, for the Antonov AN-225 Mriya

  • @gregmcrae8509
    @gregmcrae8509 4 роки тому +4

    I heard an atc from CYYZ (Toronto) say “OK you want to follow that HEAVY BURRITO to runway 33R and hold short of 33R”

    • @freednighthawk
      @freednighthawk 4 роки тому

      Please tell me they were following an AeroMexico.

    • @nikotameyer1322
      @nikotameyer1322 4 роки тому

      Train Man yeah that was a game. Lol airforceproud95 posted it, flight simulator x

    • @gregmcrae8509
      @gregmcrae8509 4 роки тому

      Nikota Meyer actually it was in real life too

  • @ChillFrost
    @ChillFrost 6 років тому +12

    I've been watching your coolest youtube lessons.. i believe I can fly.. (stars in my eyes)

    • @jaybee2344
      @jaybee2344 5 років тому +1

      Yes he makes flying look fun! 👨‍✈️👩‍✈️🛫🛬

  • @philipwilliams7947
    @philipwilliams7947 5 років тому

    As a student pilot at 14 years old, we were coming into land at our local airport. Also operating out of that airport is a Air National Guard unit. They run C-130's. As We were on final in our 152, we near inverted and had to pull out. My instructor was quick to take controls, and take over all operations. We were not alerted prior to landing about C-130 operations. Evidently the C-130 had landed some 5 minutes or so before hand. So, they can last a good bit. I lived this, lol

  • @DustinDawind
    @DustinDawind 5 років тому

    I am learning to fly gliders. One of the maneuvers you have to practice on tow is called "boxing the wake" where in order to demonstrate you have full control of the aircraft you fly in a square around the tow plane's wake turbulence.

  • @theblack5999
    @theblack5999 5 років тому +4

    That's why the winglets are made to reduce the turbulance.

  • @mind.hacker9996
    @mind.hacker9996 6 років тому +88

    You r my facorite youtuber. You did it again, nice video
    BTW fix your website plz

  • @alanbuckingham2938
    @alanbuckingham2938 5 років тому +4

    Hey Captain Joe you talk about wake turbulence how did bombers etc during the war fly so close to eachother without effecting eachother my grandfather was a captain on the lancaster bomber for the Royal airforce unfortunately he has passed so can't ask what he had to watch for when they fly in formation or is wake only during takeoff and landing, cheers

    • @mikep9604
      @mikep9604 5 років тому +1

      Actually, when flying in formation the WWII bomber pilot had to avoid the airflow caused by the propellers of the aircraft ahead because it will cause difficulty in maintaining position in the formation.

  • @janf5193
    @janf5193 3 роки тому

    It makes so much sense the way you explain things. I never thought I needed to know this, but so glad I do now.

  • @dholmes498
    @dholmes498 5 років тому +2

    Thank you... Just, Thank you. And I must say I love the farewell at the end "God I miss this plane". Thank you.

  • @wizardmix
    @wizardmix 6 років тому +55

    What about refueling aircraft? What is the technique or procedure for avoiding wake turbulence in this unique situation?

    • @wizardmix
      @wizardmix 6 років тому

      That makes sense, thanks! What if you're a large aircraft being re-fueled? and How do you approach? How do you leave?

    • @mytech6779
      @mytech6779 6 років тому +4

      Come in from the side and below leave the same way.

    • @lrodpeterson3046
      @lrodpeterson3046 6 років тому +12

      Keep in mind that the greatest instance of wake turbulence is in conditions of high drag/high angle of attack (approach to landing). Refueling is usually done at altitude (FL200 up to FL330, although those are not strict limits) which is generally at or somewhat below cruise conditions (no flaps and speed probably from .7 Mach to .78 Mach--I'm guessing on the speeds). While there is still some wake vortices due to the pressure differential between the bottom of the wing and the top, it is markedly lower than in approach configuration.
      As suggested in other comments, also the receiver approaches the tanker on centerline and from below. Fighters are different, in every respect.
      Wake turbulence (by definition) has nothing to do with the type of powerplant.

    • @nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727
      @nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727 6 років тому +5

      the pilot has to make sure to hold in his farts until after the refueling is done

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 6 років тому +1

      watch the whole video

  • @hiddenmanna3683
    @hiddenmanna3683 5 років тому +36

    Updated modern terminology..lol
    Super>> Bombzilla
    Heavy>> Tailbender
    Medium>> Irish car bomb
    Light>> Soyboy
    JK

  • @timg3504
    @timg3504 5 років тому +3

    Please do one one turbulence. how does the pilot know it’s coming up. Can the pilot see it?

  • @quantumme9938
    @quantumme9938 5 років тому

    Dear Captain Joe, what an amazing educator you are. Over time, you've inspired me to pursue my pilot license... Cheers. Keep making these amazing videos. Yours, love from L.A.

  • @kletops46
    @kletops46 4 роки тому +1

    That makes sense of the different times between aircraft landing/taking off that I watch as I'm stuck on the M25 near Heathrow.

  • @dominicbrancaccio1263
    @dominicbrancaccio1263 6 років тому +23

    Capt.Joe I miss the Concorde too
    R.I.P. Concorde

    • @michagrill9432
      @michagrill9432 5 років тому

      F 😞

    • @tanai5831
      @tanai5831 5 років тому +1

      #concordeflyagain

    • @Milkmans_Son
      @Milkmans_Son 5 років тому

      @@tanai5831 It won't. BA and AF made sure of that.

    • @tanai5831
      @tanai5831 5 років тому

      @@Milkmans_Son i know :(

  • @jasonharris1636
    @jasonharris1636 4 роки тому +4

    I feel smarter having watched this video!

  • @bryane2857
    @bryane2857 5 років тому +7

    Didn't the 757 create a weird wake turbulence?

  • @alice20001
    @alice20001 3 роки тому +1

    @8:28 "God I miss this plane"
    We all do captain... We all do...

  • @RoamingAdhocrat
    @RoamingAdhocrat 4 роки тому

    Was a great WW2 story about flying over "the hump" between India and China. Streams of C-47s and C-46s with barely enough fuel to make the round trip - returning with minimal fuel to overcast and the only navaid is a single NDB off airfield. So the arriving aircraft skim the top of the overcast and let their wake carve a slice into it - and gradually (but quickly enough) they've carved a channel right through the overcast and everyone can land.

  • @jaakkooksa5374
    @jaakkooksa5374 6 років тому +7

    Do winglets on modern airliners have any effect on the amount of turbulence?

  • @Jay-zx3qb
    @Jay-zx3qb 6 років тому +14

    I wanna become a pilot too and you inspire me every day

    • @Adityapilot93
      @Adityapilot93 6 років тому +3

      Jay Kapur mai bhi

    • @Jay-zx3qb
      @Jay-zx3qb 6 років тому +1

      Aditya what plane do you wanna fly?

    • @Adityapilot93
      @Adityapilot93 6 років тому +1

      Jay Kapur 777 is my dream flight

    • @watermelon9588
      @watermelon9588 6 років тому +1

      stfu muslims

    • @Adityapilot93
      @Adityapilot93 6 років тому

      Ghetto Watermelon what the fuck dude whats uo with the hate? You are still living in the past or something? We arent muslims and we dont even have hate against muslims, we have friends. I guess you dont have friends or family to help or love you.... Go get some life lol

  • @NothingMaster
    @NothingMaster 6 років тому +298

    Wrong, “Heavy” means, we ate too much of that wonderful airline food and we are bloated as heck; flying on gases. 🤪🤪

    • @raiedhamilton2506
      @raiedhamilton2506 6 років тому +2

      NothingMaster 😹😹

    • @kenbray5682
      @kenbray5682 6 років тому +3

      NothingMaster please do not fat when the pilot reverses thrusters, we don't want an explosion lol....

    • @spicyprojects
      @spicyprojects 5 років тому

      So that's the truth about chemtrails

    • @scumbaggo
      @scumbaggo 5 років тому +1

      Turn that plane into a hot air balloon. o///

    • @flylo4304
      @flylo4304 5 років тому

      Hahaha

  • @armatar
    @armatar 2 роки тому

    Thanks Captain Joe for a very informative video. My wife and I have a neighbor down the road with what we thought was very odd roof damage, and now taking from what you said about house roofs alongside airports having to be special to avoid issues from wake turbulence, and seeing the very similar examples, may explain it as we live very near Luke Air Force Base. What an eye opener!

  • @robertgotschall1246
    @robertgotschall1246 3 роки тому +1

    Not a pilot but really appreciate the input. Thanks.

  • @legotechniccreations6630
    @legotechniccreations6630 6 років тому +13

    Hey Joe, how little is the gap between the turbine fan and the housing? It looks tiny. Also how far can wings actually bend in turbulence?

    • @elektrofrosch2876
      @elektrofrosch2876 6 років тому +20

      The gap (tip clearance) is really small. And it is important to keep it small in all sitiuations because every 0.25mm more tip clearance the fuel consumption will go up by about 1% to maintain the same amount of thrust (CFM56-5A engine, used on the A320).To do that the temperature of the fan blades and the housing are monitored und regulated with a cooling system. With that the heat expansion of the both is kept nearly the same and so is the tip clearance.
      On newly manufacrured or fresh overhauled jet engines the fan blades are manufactured slightly bigger than the housing and the housing gets a special layer on the inside so that the fan blades grind their own perfectly small gap. With this small tip clearance in the beginning you don´t need a too big and expensive cooling system, a small one will do the job then.
      I hope that I was able to answer your question. I took these information from the lectures on aircraft engines that I had heard this semester.

    • @legotechniccreations6630
      @legotechniccreations6630 6 років тому +4

      Elektro Frosch wow thanks! That’s some awesome engineering at work!

    • @fuzzybear452
      @fuzzybear452 6 років тому

      Why no reply on second question?

    • @legotechniccreations6630
      @legotechniccreations6630 6 років тому

      fuzzybear452 maybe he’s leaving it for Joe to answer.

    • @elektrofrosch2876
      @elektrofrosch2876 6 років тому +1

      Well, I do have some knowledge about how the wings create lift and vortices but not so much about the wing bending. The only thing I can say about it is that it heavily depends on the specific aircraft (size, type of wings, etc.)

  • @randomperson8164
    @randomperson8164 5 років тому +10

    *DURING THE INTRO*
    Doesn't understand anything but "HEAVY"

  • @timmack2415
    @timmack2415 3 роки тому +14

    It's funny, I've heard "heavy" on HF frequencies after a callsign. I thought it meant 'full of fuel' 🤦

    • @thebeaz1
      @thebeaz1 3 роки тому

      No, like you, it means 'full of crap.'

    • @thebeaz1
      @thebeaz1 3 роки тому

      I believe that that would be 'full'.

    • @timmack2415
      @timmack2415 3 роки тому +1

      @@thebeaz1 I'll take 'comments that that insecure people make' for $500, Alex.

  • @fr8fr6dr69
    @fr8fr6dr69 5 років тому

    When I was a civilian flight student, my classmates and I would go "plane spotting" at the large international airport nearby (well, OK, not that large, it was Tulsa, bet you can guess the school.) We could literally sit right off the northernmost end of the runway and watch the big boys go right overhead. A few seconds afterward, you could hear a sizzling sound from the very tight wingtip vortices coming off the aircraft. It was a great early lesson in how powerful wake turbulence can be (that and a *really* old FAA video entitled "Caution! Wake Turbulence!")

  • @larryehrlich8702
    @larryehrlich8702 4 роки тому +1

    Back when I flew Lear jets and I was following a "Heavy" jet, I would fly one dot above the glide slope to avoid the turbulence. Later when I flew MD-11's (heavy jet), behind another heavy jet then I didn't bother flying above their glide path.