Nonduality and the Consciousness of 'Things' - Thich Nhat Hanh
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2016
- Do animals and plants have consciousness? Are electrons alive?
Thich Nhat Hanh in dialogue with University of Virginia Astrophysicist Dr. Trinh Xuan Thuan.
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Thich Naht Hanh passed away a few hours ago. It was truly a blessing for our world to have him with us for so long. May his dharma bloom always.
These answers come to him so quickly he is definitely in tune with Mother Earth and the ancestors , thankful for the opportunity to hear him speak . Blessings to all who read this.
“Answers”
He is in all of us. We are in him. Even though he is not in his body. The rock, water and the plant are apart of me. These things were in him. When I breathe in mindfully; I am in touch with his consciousness.
Time to meditate.
No.
He has thought of all of this a thousand times before.
I'm a quarter his age and I could fill your ears with all kinds of wisdom of this sort.
But he missed the point. This was about the first person experience of the electron, was it not? How rich does an electron experience things? Is there anything too "rich" in your experience right now so that it could not be accounted for by a particle in space receiving information from all around?
The electric field, the gravitational fields...
He is a Buddha
I love Thich Nhat Hanh. He came to this earth a Bodhisattva and returned to the light a Buddha.
Wow, His response melted my heart.
This should have 37 Billion views! No words for how wise Thay is. His transmission of the dharma is the best --although he would be humble and not agree : )
truly.. i get so inspired to be a better being, a more mindful actor, when i witness Thay. his transmission of the dharma is pure, awe-inspiring. may we all strive to be this way.
Wow! So fortunate to have these recordings that we can all go back to again and again. Thank you for gracing us with your insight, Thay!
A beautiful answer, delivered with intelligence and humility. 🙏
@@alankuntz6494 hence why Thây mentioned that we must transcend even our conception of equality along with the superiority/inferiority complexes the man on the left invoked through his question. The best way I can succinctly express the core teaching of non-duality to you my friend is, nacha so. nacho ano. The true nature of existence is not one. not two. Of course a dog cannot perform the complex functions of a human, and a human being cannot perform many of the functions of a dog, this is because non-duality does not entail absolute oneness. Enlightenment of non-duality simply eliminates the illusion of a completely separate existence as well as reveals the law of inter-being to our consciousness. As I explained in a separate reply to you a few years ago, all thought (and by extension all language) is contained within duality; we cannot escape discrimination in this material world. However, how we use our faculty of discrimination in this world is of ultimate importance. The man’s discriminations led him to form a complex of superiority which rooted itself within his consciousness; this discrimination will certainly lead to suffering; however, discrimination used for the purpose of leading oneself and others to discovery, acceptance, and integration of Truth will only bring joy. Developing the capacity of boddhichitta through our practice is the goal of meditation.
Recall the symbol of Yin and Yang, both modes of duality comes together to create a non-dual totality. Neither side is eliminated during this process, because Yin and Yang are not one, not two. Such is the nature of life. Yin acts when nature demands the same as Yang does, the same as we do with the Right conduct of the Eightfold Path after attaining enlightenment.
I suggest you research Zen Koans and find a really good one. The goal of a Zen Koan is to transcend the limitations of the purely rational mind-this is something I believe you to be currently stuck in-through shocking ourselves awake to the Ultimate Reality. I sincerely hope my explanation helped you, my friend, and I wish you a fantastic rest of your life with your time on Earth. 🌸 💗
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@@darealdovahkiin3652 You are obviously stuck in discriminating mind and need to tune into Bodhicitta your self.You are self righteous and condescending conceited.Thanks for trying to educate me on conceit annd discriminating mind and what Zen is all about.I'm fine and comfortable in my skin just as I am. Funny man Dr. Trinh Xuan Thuan whether he was discriminating or not.Thay was also discriminating, you ar discriminating. The Dr. Trinh Xuan Thuan was making an observation and was enquiring about the depth of consciouness or intelligence of some creatures compared to others.That doesn't mean tht he is mindless uncaring dullardor needs to tune into Bodhicitta any more or less than anyone else. As for your pontificating on what zen is all about i'm quite comfortable of my own uunderstanding of zen over yours.. as for .... I sincerely hope my explanation helped you, my friend, and I wish you a fantastic rest of your life with your time on Earth. ] I don't believe you .I believe it's Hallmark words but that ok . Your explanation explains who you think you are over how you think some one else is..It's quite a vast discrimination. Good luck to you in your waking up endeavors.
I don't think he was considering the funny man enough.The Dr was embarressed, humiliated.I felt his pain.The Dr had a good point, an honest quiry.
@@alankuntz6494 I meant every word I said, from the heart. Have a great day my friend, we can respectfully disagree :D
Thich Nhat Hanh, with grace and calm, eloquently dismantled this materialist-dualist astrophysicist's argument while simultaneously commenting on the socio-political state of affairs we have as a result. Of course an electron has consciousness. It is yourself! Tat Tvam Asi!
I love this man, planet Earth is going to loose a great man, a true Buddha, brilliant!
But like he says, he'll be going to dissolve in the great Universe as a part of us. I can only say, that I truly love this man. A very great inspiration ❤❤❤ My heart is with you, dear Thay, dear Master 🌻
How are there 19 people that have downvoted this? Thich Nhat Hanh is one of the most beautiful and inspirational human beings on the planet.
yin and yang
Its okay that there are diverse opinions.
Just wow!! This is wisdom! 👏Thich Nhat Hanh was a true Buddha!! 🙏
We are all Earthlings, we are all of the same form: energy.
Yeh and cel☺
Energy is one aspect of All that we are, because even Energy itself is duality and a conception.
✌ peace
Very True we are all energy, as Buddhists say we all arose from the void (shunyata) = energy. Hindus also say we are Brahman ( Energy )
nonsense, for it to be same there would have to be something else.
@@ericastier1646 Listen again with discernment and without your belief system.
It's a hard not-a-concept to understand.
In Christianity we call duality the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the nonduality is the tree of life where infinity exists.
He says it so simple so elegantly so easy to see. A gift to human kind he is
Scientist talks in terms of relative truth and Thich Nhat Hanh talk in terms of absolute truth. Both are correct.
Beautifully expressed friend 🌸
Just looking at this Master🌹 I become present 🙏
Thank you for posting this. One way or another, I try to check in with Thay every day. At this time, my sanity (and my ancestors', and Mother Earth's and The Universe's) depends on it.
Amazing answer ... Thay is living Buddha 🙏🙏🙏
So TRUE, even my I recognice a resonance in this wonderfull explanation, so evident so true!!!.He is one of the LIGHT ON in this planet, in this moment.His life is his teachment, I'm so gratefull that throught tecnoligy of you tube, I can listen him....and others enlighteen been, so precious, so helpfull to awake humanity to the Truth of love! Thank you, so much one again, dear Thay!!
I love Thay's answer.
I have few regrets. One of these is having met T.N.T too late in my life.
I have seen, and see what this Master speaks of,- The universal life source field of consciousness guiding me in doing all that I do. All I do; I agree, it agrees and so do you! For all life is interconnected and shared, informing and influencing via the vision of intent, guiding all in doing all that all do! Non-duality isn t something to do. It s something to observe. Observing it activates it! It occurs as experience.
Nice :)
Awesome explanation by Thich Nhat Hanh
Clearly stated gives a true teaching. Thank you
This man strikes me as someone who doesn’t really know consciousness as it is. He equates consciousness with cognition, intellect and is very proud of limited conceptual knowledge and frameworks used to categorise the universe. This is not knowing consciousness. This is to be lost in conceptual analysis and identified with a particular ideology (scientific) and confined by it. Quite rightly Thay points out interdependence and that our thoughts, our ideas etc. are result of complex interdependent processes but the human being develops an arrogance by stepping back and applying abstract limited notions, claiming those processes as it’s own. We emerge from the universe and view it through the limited lens of conceptual knowledge which causes us to assume our knowledge as absolute and overlook the true nature that consciousness is not in actual real terms separate from anything observed. Anyone who has spent time in the lab of observing consciousness from the position of consciousness rather than the limited position of intellect will have discovered some truth about consciousness and the so called world and that it is not separate. But it takes time sitting and observing and being willing to let go of ideas and ideology. Try and remove consciousness from what is observed, leaving only the objects of experience? No one can do it. We see the world as we are not as it is. 🙏🏻
But I think that Thay sees the world as everything is.
That doesn't exactly make sense, since there are no "things", but I can't think of how else to put it.
@@mcsmith732 How very scientific of you
This "man" is overflowing ignorance
Wonderful answer. Anthropocentric arrogance and extremely ignorant Anthropomorphic definitions will eventually lead to the destruction of our planet AND our species.
Science today is behaving much like the Church did hundreds of years ago. Ironic how those who should be open to all options of exploration and answers are so arrogantly making fun of all spirituality, denying even a potential of existence of something more than matter just because religion made errors in the past.
So true that. Science is not science when it no longer questions. It is just dogma-just like a dogmatic religion.The same is true for all systems of meaning. When they cease to be open to questioning, they are dead.
Science is competitive, and scientists can have high hubris. Unfortunately, high intellect does not equate to high intelligence. Intelligence must have love. And love is devoid of arrogance.
Atheism is just modern Stupidity
Well said..n I'm not sure that questioner even got Thích Nhất Hạnh s reply. He had such ego to mock d topic...
Define “science” for me please.
Thay is the only that brings me in a deep level of understanding. Very grateful 🙏🏻
Wow. So easily expressed
Just by listening the words of this Buddhist monk you know there’s something special about him and beyond my understanding, the other guy, the scientist is very intelligent too
Separation is part of nature, we use to survive, we use it to study things, we use separation to make science and reveal local boxed truths, we use it to communicate to other humans our ideas, There is nothing wrong with it until you live permanently in that box. Dynamic mind, separate, meld it back, separate again, meld it again, observe separate parts, observe the whole, and in the end never forget that reality is anyway no separation.
The illusion of separation especially in your comment, is hubris. There is no separation, nature was alongside us all the way when we thought we became independent and nature will crush us when we think we have separated so well. We are not separate, not a moment, not a yota , nothing. Hubris and human false sense of superiority talks of separation. Human fools.
Simply puted a Smile on my Face. How when Scientist was saying Everyone was Laughing . But when the WISE spoke, No one Laughed. Everyone listened Carefully 💖
What a perspective. Intelligence and discrimination. No more dumb electrons. It’s about function. What is the function of a human being?
Excellent video, thank you, much appreciated : )
Amazing Video!
Wow love love love his deep words to help us understand
Wow. A lot to think about and observe the own thoughts. Awarness. ❤ thank you so much for sharing 💝✨️
Impresionante Thay! Completamente compacta su respuesta! Gracias inmensas. El pensamiento que diferencia, que discrimina lo fenómenos, tiene que estar acompañada de una ética impecable y un corazón compasivo. De otro modo... ya vemos en el mundo el sufrimiento que genera.
Every one path to enlightened is a journey listen to Thich Nhat Hanh says he belongs to greatness. His views are of the righteous,
very interesting to find out what he has to say in his own words
Amazing. Such a great master
The core of what he teaches is simple. Anyone who complicates it does so out of evilness.
I would say out of ignorance but maybe that is evil?
yes i'd say evil arises out of ignorance. we must not hurt those in ignorance, we must help them! i must help myself and all those around me. peace.
Ego
Mina, it takes the mind of discrimination to discern that
Ironically that comment fully embodies the judgemental basic attitude, he was pointing out.
The part of you that wrote the comment, must have been a different one than who understood what he said.
What even is "evilness"?
what a gentle presence..
What a beautiful soul
Simple and beautiful 💙
Our mind is the master of imaging and naming all the things.sense of seperation is just because of our image making mind.
"Life.. it is an opportunity for truth of oneself, and everything else. So blessed, it is." ~ Paul Jung, Thich Nhat Hanh, You, Non-You, et al, et aliae
fascinating perspective!
Beautiful! 🙏
Actually there is scientific evidence for particle consciousness in the quantum double slit experiment....what we don't know is far exceeded by what we think we do know. Nothing can be eliminated while we are still so early on our journey.
You're on the money with your warning against scientism. But there isn't even 'scientific' evidence of human consciousness. We do not know that a consciousness exists in a lone electron within a hypothetical void atop a ground of being disconnected from ours. We definitely don't have 'evidence' of an electron's consciousness in *that* sense. Thay points out the sense in which an electron is conscious. But it is not as an independent entity. This is the mistake, to think we or an electron are an independent conscious entity.
There is no scientific evidence of consciousness at all.
The best scientific evidence for consciousness is people talking about.
If you weren't conscious, you'd think they are mad.
Thay just sitting so graciously, knowing he's totally wrong ❤
Saints say that nobody can directly subside or merge his mind into super conscious state or beyond knowledge which feeling is beyond space, time and causation. It is nothingness but infinite joy. Saints say that by proper meditation when one can control his mind from outward physical attraction at first his mind will subside to his own individual soul through four different state of mind i,e sitta, buddhi, pran and ahankar. It is called savikalpa samadhi. In the next step when the aspirant subside his buble-like soul to the giant ocean-like Supreme soul then he will attain to superconcious state which feeling is eternal infinite joy and beyond space, time causation. It is called Nirvicalpa Samadhi. So, it is clear that we are now in dream state. In reality all animate beings and inanimate things are one unique existence. It is called Non-dualism.
Wonderful answer.
So good..
What a beautiful man
❤️❤️❤️ Thank you
Thank you.
Beauty!
Great answer🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
The most efficient way for lifes inefficiency to be observed is to be non-competitive (internal to external). No taking sides, teasing, sarcasm, blame, name calling, telling others what they should/should nt do, criticising, using the 'you' word, engaging in coulda/woulda/shoulda, meanness, one up manship,.
For some scientific evidence on conscious electrons see the article: Conscious Particles, Fields and Waves, by Jay Alfred.
Our very human ability to discriminate is a natural part of being a social animal. It unlocks the ability to organize on larger levels. Without discrimination, organizing larger and larger groups of people, in my opinion, would not be possible.
So while discrimination creates suffering, it also creates human society itself as well. So completely eliminating the mind of discrimination is akin to total systems collapse. The idea is not to eliminate it, but to bring it in balance to it's positive elements. That being the creation of social structures that unlock an ability for all to live past sustenance, and to push our species, along with all sentient life, into the future.
So I do not despise the mind of discrimination, but rather learn to live through it. You see, it is a dialectic.
It's the discriminating mind that says it must be either-or. Nowhere in the video is it said that we should eliminate the discriminating mind. It's an asset, But it's not an end-point. The skill of discrimination is closely associated with skills of measurement and comparison, as well as choices in direction (to turn left or right). But it's not the ground of our mental reality. For discrimination even to take place, higher mind is needed to see the options. Discriminating mind is born of the over-view, not the other way round. The teaching encourages us to recognize this source strength of mind and to rest here. The more we can do this, the more the art of discrimination is liberated, becoming more attuned, refined and precise.
The discriminating mind is the servant, not the master. It is when that mind is glorified and takes itself to be the master that suffering ensues.
The discriminating mind is a good servant but all hell breaks loose when it starts taking itself to be the master.
When things go well you love the world when you suffer your lover abandoned you. Find a better you! 😁
pride is not an evil thing as in literalist religions, it simply has no basis, therefore if understanding of nature rises, pride falls and cant appear again
To try and get rid of pride is almost paradoxical.
You get the sheriff to help you catch and hang an evil doer, he goes with you and asks, whom he is to catch. And you say "the sheriff".
How funny is that? 😂
Thich Nhat Hanh 🙏
Master Thich 🙏🙏🙏
Whether a cat, a donkey or any a living sentient being - it's the energy which is indescribable or unknowable - that manifested into an appearance of a living sentient being in their body & mind.
Whose live existence seems to happen - apparently appearing to happen.
But in Reality Nature - no one, or a knower or thinker is in them. What is manifested as living entity with aliveness is just a localized contracted energy with its energy field in living body & mind.
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Good crowd damn
where can I find the video to the full conversation?
Jason Cullen Million thanks!
Yes
The Law myoho-renge-kyo represents the identity of what some scientists refer to as the ‘unified field of all consciousnesses’. In other words, it’s a sound vibration that is the essence of all of existence and non-existence, the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the true creator of everything that is, ever was and ever will be, right down to the minutest particles of dust, each being an individual ripple or wave. The big difference between chanting Nam-myoho-renge-kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves by tapping directly into it by way of self-produced sound vibration.
On the subject of ‘Who or What Is God?’, when we compare the concept of ‘God’, as a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to Nichiren’s teachings, the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people call ‘God’ is our enlightenment, which exists nowhere else but within us.
When the disciples asked Jesus where the Kingdom of God is, didn’t he tell them that it was within them?
Some say that ‘God’ is an entity that can never be seen. I think that the vast amount of information that is constantly being conveyed via electromagnetic waves gives us proof of how an invisible state of ‘God’ could actually exist. It’s widely known that certain data being relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects, including instant global awareness of something or mass emotional reaction. As well as many other things, it’s also common knowledge that these waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to even enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars. However, none of this is possible without a receiver to decode the information that is being transmitted. Without the receiver, the information would remain impotent.
In a very similar way, it’s important for us to have our ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our life, all other life and what we and all else that exists truly is. Chanting Nam-myoho-renge-kyo helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach into the core of our enlightenment and switch it on. That’s because the sound vibration of myoho-renge-kyo represents the combination of the three major laws that underlie all existence.
Myoho represents the Law of latency and manifestation (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. One state of myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists. This includes our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them, our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re not being expressed, our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma, and more importantly, our enlightenment. The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes obvious to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory, whenever we experience or express our emotions, or whenever a good or bad effect manifests from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it simply means that it has come out of the state of ‘myo’ (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s simply the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing something.
The second law, renge, governs and controls the functions of myoho, ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect. The two laws of myoho and renge, both functions together simultaneously, as well as underlies all spiritual and physical existence.
The final and third part of the tri-combination, kyo, is what allows the law myoho to be able to integrate with the law renge. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects together all Life and matter, as well as the past, present and future. It is often termed the Universal Law of Communication. Perhaps it could even be compared to the string theory that some scientists now suspect exists.
Just as our body cells, thoughts, feelings and all else are constantly fluctuating within us, everything in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux, in accordance with these three laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of myo and ho in a single moment than it would ever be possible for us to calculate or describe. And it doesn't matter how big or small, important or trivial that anything may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of myoho-renge-kyo.
These three laws are also the basis of the four fundamental forces and if they didn't function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. Simply put, all forms of existence, including the seasons, day and night, birth, death and so on, are all moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation, rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two universal states of myo and ho in absolute accordance with renge and by way of kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn in accordance with the workings of what the combination myoho-renge-kyo represents.
Nam, or Namu, on the other hand, is a password or a key; it allows us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with myoho-renge-kyo. On a more personal basis, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives from moment to moment, as well in our environment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is turning, and rhythmically chanting Nam-myoho-renge-kyo for a minimum of ten minutes daily, anyone can experience actual proof of its positive effects in their life.
In so doing, we can pierce through even the thickest layers of our karma and activate our Buddha Nature (enlightened state). We’re then able to summon forth the wisdom needed to challenge, overcome and change our negative circumstances into positive ones. It brings forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that is preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we truly are, regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexual preference. We are also able to see and understand our circumstances and environment more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations.
Actual proof soon becomes apparent to anyone who chants the words Nam-myoho-renge-kyo on a regular daily basis. Everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect, so the strength of the result from chanting depends on dedication, sincerity and determination. To explain it more simply, the difference could be compared to making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, or producing a song and so on.
NB: There are frightening, disturbing sounds and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It's the emotional result from any sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day you are producing a sound vibration that is the password to your true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things, such as your fears and desires etc. The important way to get the best result when chanting is not to see things in a conventional way (difficult to achieve but can be done), rather than reaching out to an external source, you need to reach into your own life and bring your needs and desires to fruition from within, including any help that you may need. Think of it as a seed within you that you are bringing sunshine and water to in order for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s important to understand that everything that we need in life, all the answers and potential to achieve our dreams, already exist within us.
@ OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN sings about Nam-myoho-renge-kyo
@ BOY GEORGE sings about Nam-myoho-renge-kyo
Only the mind thinks that Beethoven is better than a screaming cat .
wow
I wondered how Thich would respond to the presenters smart arse comedic piss-taking question. Now I did not fully understand the response, but did enjoy it.
People generally have a very poor understanding of what the word 'infinite' actually means.. This is not any kind of 'fault', but just that we have evolved within the confines of what appears to be a finite environment, and we thus try to look at things in finite ways, also justifying those 'finite' thoughts. When I first approached the 'problem' I had the same difficulties, so it takes our minds a lot of effort to reach another perspective of understanding, but it IS achievable..
Firstly, there cannot be more than one 'instance' of infinitude, otherwise a secondary 'thing' would render them both 'finite'. So we are describing a 'oneness'.. Also, it can have no 'beginning' nor 'ending' as these would also necessitate a secondary 'thing' (or the utter nonsense of a 'nothing'!), so we are describing 'eternity' when we apply 'time' concepts. Then, we have to admit that it can only be the one thing that interconnects all other 'things', and we deduce this to be 'Space', necessarily..
So, in terms of 'numbers', infinitude can only ever be 'one'.. ('Non-duality')
All references to 'size' or 'direction' do not apply to the nature of infinitude, and thus have no relevance to our understanding of the true nature of existence. 'Measurement' has limitations.. When we point to any position in Space, we effectively create a 'beginning' to any subsequent forms of measurement, which only has relevance to the entity desiring to understand said 'measurement'. Measuring things does not make them a main-feature of the nature of reality, only a desire of 'measurement' from a purely Human perspective.
'Math' is another finite aspect, and so has limited usage. It helps us to describe specific positions and calculate certain desirable measurements to ourselves, so that we may use finite reference points, but it breaks down at the level of describing a necessarily infinite reality. Thus, as it is with our 'senses', we need various different kinds of understanding, all working in tandem with each other to produce the 'bigger picture', and we have philosophy and psychology, arts and 'mysticism'/intuition, among others, evolved for this task. However, because we live in an 'expert' driven society, all the 'senses/methods' are at war with each other, jostling for control, when the only true understanding occurs if we emulate nature itself, and work from a foundation of wholeness..
Within infinitude everything appears to be at the 'centre' of that which it finds detectable ('observable').. So, the moment you create the perspective of a 'centre', you become that centre..Here we can find the real problem with using 'mathematics' as a tool for understanding infinite nature. We have to firstly posit the 'points' to be 'measured' in order for the measurement to take place.. And this is why we end up inventing 'things' that do not exist in reality from mathematical constructs that do not describe the truth about nature..
"Commendation from NASA for research work at Massachusetts Institute of Technology on the Earth's atmosphere and the Moon's surface for navigation of the Apollo spacecraft to the Moon..
Dr. Milo Wolff has found the structure of the electron consisting of two spherical quantum waves, one moving radially outward and another moving radially inward. The center of the waves is the nominal location of the electron 'particle'. These waves extend infinitely, like charge force. All 'particle' waves mix and contribute to each other, thus all matter of the universe is interrelated by this intimate connection between the fundamental 'particles' and the universe. The natural laws are a direct consequence of this Wave Structure of Matter (WSM), thus WSM underlies all of science."
spaceandmotion
All methods of attempting to genuinely understand must eventually lead to success, as long as we can whittle each aspect down to that which is necessary. In fact, it may well be that it is a requirement of genuine understanding to approach the 'Allness' of existential questioning from as many necessary aspects as possible, all things existent necessarily converging in truth..
The emphasis must be on genuineness and necessity, not favouring one Human-invented method over another. When it comes to truth, the Human necessity is that we must 'be it to see it', for the very reason that we ARE 'it'.. ('Tat Tvam Asi')
The importance of the 'mystical' aspect Humanity carries within it, and so has access to, is not 'god' in its many guises, but the intrinsic aspect of infinitude.. 'God' has been our excuse for irresponsibility, leading to false 'authoritarianism', but the real 'enlightenment' occurs when we see how necessary infinitude is.. So 'god' has just been a vehicle, a carrier of genuine understanding, not the truth itself..
Audiences collectively have this neurotic knee-jerk response of laughing at everything. It's really annoying.
Right. And we all have an invisible audience laughing at us.
@@nondual thank you for this
And I find it very amusing and ironic that you find it so.
@@nondual
The entire cosmos I laughing and I don't get it. Because I am the pointe.
Do you know if there's a way to get the full recording of this dialogue?
What I know is about 100 hundred scientists around the worlds came to study with Zen master Thich Nhat Hanh for 21 days under the topic: Science of the Buddha.
There's no thinker of thoughts , thoughts just arise and the mind ,if there's such a thing , is just reacting to the 'incoming' thought .But were do thoughts come from?From the absolute nothingness .
Where to find the full exchange? Thanks
Oneness !
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We don't underestimate the mineral. We overestimate our individual consciousness.
Discrimination and and and? We are life, and as life are an imperfect perfection: We re better today than we were yesterday and not as we re going to be tomorrow. Ever expanding and evolving. All we do is in alignment with all in the cosmos. we re all expanding at the same pace with variable rate. Discrimination? Look how much we have evolved away from it, collectively, in only the past 100 years!!!
Boom! 💥👀🙏🙏🙏
He just made the scientist look like a child.
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Till today I am not able to figure out how thoughts arrive in the mind.
Zen Master has mentioned it in his writings. I will let you know when I find it..
Thought and emotion arises from the five aggregates. The eyes, ear, nose, taste and touch. Everything you perceived around you come from the five aggregates. There are the five sensual pleasure. We only like to see beautiful things but not ugly thing, hearing nice music, smelling nice perfume, tasting nice food and nice feeling of touch. All these are duality.
@@25bmax ja, die Theorie kennt man.
Aber im eigenen direkten Erleben kann ich nicht herausfinden wo sie herkommen und wo sie hingehen.
Warum heute so, Morgen so.
It depends on what is meant by consciousness. Some claim that consciousness not only perceives but in essence "informs"- creates the form of- the bodymind and all things AND perceives them. The body-mind on its own is no more animate than an electron. Scientists keep looking at the objects and not at what is truly perceiving and creating the objects. They need to get quiet and experience awareness behind thought. But Thay may have been a little rough in implying that this guy is responsible for causing suffering with his discrimination. .
So don’t personalize thoughts, let them come, stay or go...
How do you create a mind that does not discriminate?
Tammi Carter Do not look up to anyone. Do not look down on anyone. See everyone as equal.
Recognize that everything the universe is one. When you zoom out from this world , you'll see that we're so small, everything together. planets, constellations, the galaxies. One thing happen will affect the other. Just like your body. Chop off one of your finger out because one is longer than the other. see how you hand would function in your body. If you say your left hand isn't as strong as your right, when you discriminate it and remove it, then you'll be different. You have a pie of pizza 8 slices for total of 8 people, if one person eat 2, the last one will be hungry. These 8 people are connected.
One wastes time judging every experience, so no discrimination is experience without timeout for forming opinion, so experience without thought.
For us humans, it is not possible. Our ability to discriminate and organize is what unlocks our ability to socialize and build large social systems. Like the nation you live in, and the global economy you operate in. So a mind that does not discriminate is one that does not partake in any social structure that humans have constructed.
five grams of shrooms ought to do the trick
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Can we recognise our loved ones in heaven?
Cool, but misses the point.
What is it LIKE to BE an electron? Is there a reason to think an electron's experience is any less rich than ours?
Deeply and even needlessly complicated materialistic - dualistic - understanding.
"Say you... Say me... Say "Us!""
"And I speak cat & dog, and everything else... "
~ Thich Nhat Hanh
I speak cat. It has many questions. It cannot be measured in human terms. It is cat.
I have a better question. Do I have consciousness? As in, does everybody have the same type of consciousness as me?
There is no you, no others.
I don't think the plant knows that in the same way that i don't know how my hypothalamus works, it just does it.
Exactly he missed the point.
Anyways it might be that your hypothalamus and the plant are both silently conscious.
I see where the information comes from that is written/translated/interpreted in all those books. As with the bible and its devils and demons, 1000s of years ago,. Great care must be observed in embracing the 'learned philosophy' of creation. The 'Flatworld' mentality is of great inefficiency.To observe is to be blameless. Want to blame? Blame all. To blame all is to accept all. The question then becomes the answer. The concern becomes p r e s e n c e . One must have at least the consideration of beyond the 3rd dimension and 5 senses in order to embrace this.
Someone who accidentally lose a finger can also do mathematics. Like the feeling conveyed by Master Tich, just that if the logic is more intact, logical fools like myself can buy into the teachings better.
The logic is sound to those who have the will to look.
Nothing exists in isolation; take the mind (brain) out of the universe (using your imagination ; ) ), now keep adding what might be needed for it to be able to operate and carry out mathematics. You might just find that everything you took from it - you will need to give back.
Thich Nhat Hanh did not just pick this logic from a readers digest magazine one afternoon, he has spent his life shedding the human conditioning of specialness to view what is. You may have a genuine interest in grasping the point, or you may not, I hope you do, and I hope you give it the time to see through your (our) conditioning. Good luck : )
I can feel where you are coming from, just that I am not sure and I don't understand. Could you elaborate on: " take the mind (brain) out of the universe (using your imagination ; ) ), now keep adding what might be needed for it to be able to operate and carry out mathematics. You might just find that everything you took from it - you will need to give back.."?
My test of oneness is asking you to take a brain and isolate it from everything. Clearly it won't be able to do maths at that point. Now ask what needs to be added back to the system to allow it to function properly. For example it will need blood, blood will need oxygen, then a way to shed CO2, so some sort of lung perhaps, then a kidney to clean the blood of toxins that build up, etc etc. Eventually you will find that you need pretty much a universe : ) Nothing is isolated from this everything state.
Oh yeah these philosophical claims people can make according to their appetites. But you pretty much do not require your finger to be intact to do math right? Or that you are after some "koan-like" experience by thinking like this? I still do not get the point to be honest.
No, of course you do not require all your fingers to do maths. I am assuming that you are not silly enough to believe that anyone would suggest that. The logic is that we're are all part of the same system.If you don't get the point after my previous examples, then I guess; you don't get it, or I can't explain it : )
His system doesn't work for me. For me to be able to function successfully in a western world I need duality.
Discrimination, judgement, duality is all about consciousness at work, before consciousness arises, there is nothingness, when consciousness arises the world appears, when consciousness ceased it goes back to nothingness
Nobody knows. We haven’t died yet. Impossible to answer.
@@benji-5796 remove death from thought
@@lewisliew6479 ok we can use the word nothingness that you have used above, all the same thing.