1:26 Punisher showcases his superego He was asserting he knows his internal content (who he is as a personality) in order to defend himself from ethical influence (Fi) because they were trying to put him in an asylum to make him a "good man" 3:57 Frank has many scenes where he shows Fi vulnerable and his reluctance to showcase himself as a good man yet also seen to be very sensitive to criticism in that area, someone assuming his ethical qualities, judging him either as good or bad is not something he trusts 8:50 Logan Roy as a character is one of the best examples of Se-Ti in fiction from what i have seen, he manipulates and plays with rules and hierarchies and is seen on DAILY basis abusing and exerting his will through his position in hierarchy, he moves people around and views them as their described roles rather than as more intimate people, the voting scene shows his tendency to abuse Ti in order to get what he wants, in the end, to still remain the CEO and be the person in charge 11:05 This scene simply showcases Billy's lack of foresight, he came there with a strange plan to just blow Madelyn up and hope for the best, he did not think this through and as we all know by now, his "plan" completely backfired
Watching this, the best series ever to be uploaded in UA-cam on Socionics, so detailed and so thorough, this is all a beginner and even an expert needs to know about the type, after they learn the mechanics of socionics, Mental-vital rings, blocks, dichotomy etc
A great video with explanations going straight to the point. I couldn't agree more that a sle needs an iei to calm all that impulsiveness, anger and help him express himself in a comfort zone. At first I thought that duality was nonsense "how a sensitive dramatic weak willed individual could go well with me and even be beneficial ?" but having experienced it, I definitely see the strength of this relationship and the complementary. Could a be an interesting series of video on duals. Keep up the good work.
@@Just_Rusted yeah, its way easier for me to deal with people in a impersonnel way, im good at it but when it comes to close relationship, its difficult for me to know how the other person feels about me. I also keep everyone at a certain distance without realizing it. Regarding emotions, there is not much sadness or depression but just anger, everything is just converted into anger lol
I'm an ENTJ in 4 MBTI dichotomy letters, and beta quadra Se SLE-ESTp socionics. My personality character is way too far from those movie clips that likely to tear others down. I was angry, abrasive, and intimidating only at a bully who act tough and cocky, not to random people who feel vurnurable. I was bullied in high school, I knew that was my traumatic experience, and I hate it!
Nice one. I just wonder why so many people seem to link SLE to ENTJ. All types of the NT temperament are conceptual/theoretical and abstract types. How can you connect that with SLE? "ENTJs are barely an intuitive type", what does that even mean?
It's based on stereotypes. Even Myers briggs did not describe ENTJs that way, in fact, she made it very clear they are VERY intuitive types FOCUSED on such matters
@@Just_Rusted That is very true, but it is still very annoying. Anyway, which type(s) tend to struggle the most with short-temperedness due to perfectionism and (unrealistically) high expectations?
I don't understand the part about Si ignoring where you describe that they don't impose their hedonism on others. I find this to be contrary to how Se bases, and most importantly, how E8s are. Many examples like Napoleon, Caesar, Henry VIII, Aristippus impose and preach their hedonism on others. For example, I don't think a SLE with a drinking habit would so willingly change their habit for the sake of others. This is contradictory to how E8 operates as well, since they prioritise their own personal pleasure indulgence, they are not prone to relinquish their opinion in this regard, which is a core trait of E8.
Yeah in reality ESTP is way more of a strong/authoritative figure than ExTJs. ENTJs are very nerdy but ambitious somewhat conformist types and ESTJs are just very traditional mostly sirious tryhard people. ESTPs are the strong "tough" guys.
Ngl, I thought your earlier videos on socionics and enneagram were bullshit, but this was actually a really great video. Still think your correlations are too strict, but damn. Respect for your knowledge of socionics.
Hey! I just wanted to run by you while you're going over classic socionics: When it comes to the manifestation of kinetic energy, how does that look between Se PoLR and Se Suggestive? And for action, how does that look when observing a Te PolR and Te Suggestive? I'm pretty confident about the order of strength of my elements but not which are mental/vital. Any good way of determining one way or the other?
I always thought I was SEE because everyone always said so and I viewed myself as charismatic but my main problem throughout my life has always been people and relationships. I’m not sold yet but realistically, the Fi vulnerable section of this video was hilariously accurate and it’s not often I question myself in this regard
I think SLEs can be charismatic for sure. But they're not personal in their charisma or charm or even demeanor, the SEE is much more personal and invasive interpersonally.
@@Just_Rusted i am Sorry for the many questions man, but you really seem to know your shit. So might i ask, are ESTPs often FVLE? Cuz i am ELVF (INFP) and i am kinda looking for FVLE
Hey rusted what type do you think a person would be if they are uncomfortable with there own emotions but are able to handle other people emotions? SEE, SLE or LIE?
Depends how this discomfort in their own emotions manifests. And also, what does it mean they are able to handle other peoples emotions, are they able to navigate such situations with ease? Are they able to offer help in that realm?
@@Just_Rustedi mean for me the discomfort comes when someone asks me about how I feel after something terrible has happened as I know I am going to get over it so I don’t like to talk about it. Also regarding others emotions especially bad ones, I am able to just manage and calm them down pretty easily and also am able to help them with practical knowledge
Tests are very bad, you might be completely different type than those three suggested, tests are unreliable. SEE doesn't have strong Te, they have bad Te and they rely on supervision in that department as they can only do what is expected of them in that area.
Very different. SEI is great at impacting peoples emotional states, it's a person who can make others feel positive, good and welcome with ease, expressive and warm SLI is coped in this area, concious of their autism and not knowing how to react in situations where emotional expression is needed, they're very interpersonally coped in comparison to an SEI.
@@Just_Rusted okay I'm definitely more sure of being SLI now. I just felt that I don't have strong Te as I don't ever really have strong goals and rather do leisurely activities all day long. Though occasionally if I have work to do I can get it done but would rather do nothing.
@Just_Rusted it's the Fi-Ne block that's obvious to me. You're gonna tell me he ain't Fi suggestive? 3 seasons long he's after Homelander, even though his wife cheated. Then he wants to raise a kid that isn't his and threw his entire mission away and teams with homelander against Soldier Boy. Soldier Boy on the other hand blew up his ex when he found out she betrayed him. Stuck to the mission.
@@ChaBoi777 I don't think any of this means he is Fi suggestive. What i see tho is NeFi superego block, he percieves all supes to be the same, posess the same inner content and qualities that sooner or later will make them bad, painting them all in the same brush, we see him with ryan that he was trying his hardest not to fall to such thinking but in the end his worst struggles got confirmed once again, supes are indeed sht and it don't matter who they are, NeFi superego af
1:26 Punisher showcases his superego
He was asserting he knows his internal content (who he is as a personality) in order to defend himself from ethical influence (Fi) because they were trying to put him in an asylum to make him a "good man"
3:57 Frank has many scenes where he shows Fi vulnerable and his reluctance to showcase himself as a good man yet also seen to be very sensitive to criticism in that area, someone assuming his ethical qualities, judging him either as good or bad is not something he trusts
8:50 Logan Roy as a character is one of the best examples of Se-Ti in fiction from what i have seen, he manipulates and plays with rules and hierarchies and is seen on DAILY basis abusing and exerting his will through his position in hierarchy, he moves people around and views them as their described roles rather than as more intimate people, the voting scene shows his tendency to abuse Ti in order to get what he wants, in the end, to still remain the CEO and be the person in charge
11:05 This scene simply showcases Billy's lack of foresight, he came there with a strange plan to just blow Madelyn up and hope for the best, he did not think this through and as we all know by now, his "plan" completely backfired
It was the BEST thing I have ever listened/read that explained my personality. Amazing video Rust, respect bro
Means a lot, appreciate it
@@Just_Rusted I wait for the ILI one too. It would be helpful
Im getting into socionics, your video is great and very easy to understand.
Nice video. Definitely cleared up why this type can basically only be 3E and SP8
GOD DAMN, you’re killing it, kid. Great work.
Cheers
Watching this, the best series ever to be uploaded in UA-cam on Socionics, so detailed and so thorough, this is all a beginner and even an expert needs to know about the type, after they learn the mechanics of socionics, Mental-vital rings, blocks, dichotomy etc
Thank you brother, appreciate your feedback
OMGGG egomaniaaaac🥰😍
I second that.
Facts.
@@dozdano how's it going brother
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A great video with explanations going straight to the point.
I couldn't agree more that a sle needs an iei to calm all that impulsiveness, anger and help him express himself in a comfort zone. At first I thought that duality was nonsense "how a sensitive dramatic weak willed individual could go well with me and even be beneficial ?" but having experienced it, I definitely see the strength of this relationship and the complementary.
Could a be an interesting series of video on duals.
Keep up the good work.
Good to see an SLE agree with this description.
Do you think the way Fi vulnerable is explained fits you?
@@Just_Rusted yeah, its way easier for me to deal with people in a impersonnel way, im good at it but when it comes to close relationship, its difficult for me to know how the other person feels about me. I also keep everyone at a certain distance without realizing it.
Regarding emotions, there is not much sadness or depression but just anger, everything is just converted into anger lol
These are great explanations, Rust. I hope you continue with the rest of the types. Cheers.
Appreciate it bud, we will keep on producing them
@@Just_Rusted Sounds good. I am especially interested in the LII/ILE descriptions you give.
Great video and an amazing series rust!
Thank you for the work you put into these videos!
Looking forward to the other types!
All the best ❤️
Thank you for your supportive words
Great video! I hope that one day same good material you will develop about IEI one day :)
I'm an ENTJ in 4 MBTI dichotomy letters, and beta quadra Se SLE-ESTp socionics. My personality character is way too far from those movie clips that likely to tear others down. I was angry, abrasive, and intimidating only at a bully who act tough and cocky, not to random people who feel vurnurable. I was bullied in high school, I knew that was my traumatic experience, and I hate it!
That was whole good explanation. I am waiting for ILE, LII and IEE for typing myself correctly. I hope you do those videos as soon as possible man.
How does Fi vulnerable differ in ILE and SLE?
DO IEI NEXT PLEASE
Love this. Makes me ore sure that im an SLE
Nice one. I just wonder why so many people seem to link SLE to ENTJ. All types of the NT temperament are conceptual/theoretical and abstract types. How can you connect that with SLE? "ENTJs are barely an intuitive type", what does that even mean?
It's based on stereotypes.
Even Myers briggs did not describe ENTJs that way, in fact, she made it very clear they are VERY intuitive types FOCUSED on such matters
@@Just_Rusted That is very true, but it is still very annoying. Anyway, which type(s) tend to struggle the most with short-temperedness due to perfectionism and (unrealistically) high expectations?
Woow finally a SLE character that classic socionics not turn in SEE... yet
I've seen some people say he might be SEE but i don't see it, seems severely coped in Fi realm
Billy Butcher? He would never be SEE.
He's even more of a SLE in the comics (if you think about it, he is a carbon copy of the Punisher).
I don't understand the part about Si ignoring where you describe that they don't impose their hedonism on others. I find this to be contrary to how Se bases, and most importantly, how E8s are. Many examples like Napoleon, Caesar, Henry VIII, Aristippus impose and preach their hedonism on others. For example, I don't think a SLE with a drinking habit would so willingly change their habit for the sake of others. This is contradictory to how E8 operates as well, since they prioritise their own personal pleasure indulgence, they are not prone to relinquish their opinion in this regard, which is a core trait of E8.
Great video man, as always.
Amazing! People forget that ESTP can be a strong authoritative figure, usually just think ENTJ/ESTJ.
Yeah in reality ESTP is way more of a strong/authoritative figure than ExTJs. ENTJs are very nerdy but ambitious somewhat conformist types and ESTJs are just very traditional mostly sirious tryhard people. ESTPs are the strong "tough" guys.
Ngl, I thought your earlier videos on socionics and enneagram were bullshit, but this was actually a really great video. Still think your correlations are too strict, but damn. Respect for your knowledge of socionics.
Thanks bro
Four types of SLEs
[SLE-D (Dominant)]-[Pure Choleric]-[Stern commander]
[SLE-C (Creative)]-[Choleric-Sanguine]-[warrior or brave fighter]
[SLE-N (Normalizing)]-[Choleric-Melancholic]-[Athlete, confident economist]
[SLE-H (Harmonizing)]-[Choleric-Phlegmatic]-[Human resources representative, strategic planner, overseer of business mergers]
Gotta binge this vid❤Do you think Tony Soprano is SLE too? He looks very 3E-ish. Te demonstrative fits him great too.
He seems extremely Fi vulnerable to me
Good vid!
Long time no tier list, what about "most loyal ennagram subtypes"?
Have a nice day Rusted :)
Let's do tier list next, we need something fun after such long geekism
This is the guy that women say needs to get in touch with his "feminine side" lol
Sigma male chadwick emotionally constipated lone wolf mf
Can you do a video on ILE and IEE
General Hannibal type. MF cut his infected eye with his own sword and continued the war like it was nothing.
Hey! I just wanted to run by you while you're going over classic socionics: When it comes to the manifestation of kinetic energy, how does that look between Se PoLR and Se Suggestive? And for action, how does that look when observing a Te PolR and Te Suggestive? I'm pretty confident about the order of strength of my elements but not which are mental/vital. Any good way of determining one way or the other?
The type of guy Andrew Tate wishes to be
Cosplayer
@@Just_Rusted True
No it’s not. Andrew is a clear cut ESTJ. Pretty comfortable in his own shoes.
What type is Andrew Tate?
@@offenjoyer that dumbass is Ne dominant?
Based. Best description bro
I always thought I was SEE because everyone always said so and I viewed myself as charismatic but my main problem throughout my life has always been people and relationships. I’m not sold yet but realistically, the Fi vulnerable section of this video was hilariously accurate and it’s not often I question myself in this regard
I think SLEs can be charismatic for sure.
But they're not personal in their charisma or charm or even demeanor, the SEE is much more personal and invasive interpersonally.
Pls do ESI next
Lucky you
Great video rust
Thank you brother
is this FVLE ESTPs or FLVE in attitudinal psyche?
This is VFEL
@@Just_Rusted do you have a video where you speak about FVLE? Might i ask what type are you on attitudinal psyche?
I'm VFLE but it is psychosophy, i don't use AP
@@Just_Rusted i am Sorry for the many questions man, but you really seem to know your shit. So might i ask, are ESTPs often FVLE? Cuz i am ELVF (INFP) and i am kinda looking for FVLE
@@giuseppelorisnuzzo2840
FVLE is not going to be ESTP, it will be ESTJ SP3 to be precise.
ESTP is going to be VFEL
Rust do u consider Kendall Roy as an EII? A Se base-Se PoLR relashiondhip with his father?
@@HDM2800 I'm confident he is sp4. Not sure if he is EII or Esi
@@dozdano i think he's just a very depressed so3
do you guys think vegeta from dbz is an SLE?
Enneagram 6 video please
Ik it's a rarer thing, but who are some female SLEs in your opinion? Real life and fictional
Hey rusted what type do you think a person would be if they are uncomfortable with there own emotions but are able to handle other people emotions? SEE, SLE or LIE?
Depends how this discomfort in their own emotions manifests.
And also, what does it mean they are able to handle other peoples emotions, are they able to navigate such situations with ease? Are they able to offer help in that realm?
@@Just_Rustedi mean for me the discomfort comes when someone asks me about how I feel after something terrible has happened as I know I am going to get over it so I don’t like to talk about it. Also regarding others emotions especially bad ones, I am able to just manage and calm them down pretty easily and also am able to help them with practical knowledge
Probably SEE out of the available options but why are you considering LIE, SLE and SEE? The LIE doesn't belong there
@@Just_Rusted I got these three as the top three options in the test, very high SE and high Te
Tests are very bad, you might be completely different type than those three suggested, tests are unreliable.
SEE doesn't have strong Te, they have bad Te and they rely on supervision in that department as they can only do what is expected of them in that area.
Ive got my type pinned down to SEI or SLI and I don't know which I am. I relate to Te polr and Fe Polr i dont know which one i am.
Very different.
SEI is great at impacting peoples emotional states, it's a person who can make others feel positive, good and welcome with ease, expressive and warm
SLI is coped in this area, concious of their autism and not knowing how to react in situations where emotional expression is needed, they're very interpersonally coped in comparison to an SEI.
@@Just_Rusted okay I'm definitely more sure of being SLI now. I just felt that I don't have strong Te as I don't ever really have strong goals and rather do leisurely activities all day long. Though occasionally if I have work to do I can get it done but would rather do nothing.
@@nicholas4727 Doesn't contradict, you are SI base after all and SLI correlates to E9 which is known for "sloth"
Waitin for lse
Wow sounds just like a ENTJ
It sounds like what people think an ENTJ is
Nah, Rust just described my dad
Typical rusted video, great work
Appreciate it broski
Wrong. He's LSE. Soldier boy is the SLE
Explain Te-Si egoblock and what enneagram is Butcher
@Just_Rusted it's the Fi-Ne block that's obvious to me. You're gonna tell me he ain't Fi suggestive? 3 seasons long he's after Homelander, even though his wife cheated. Then he wants to raise a kid that isn't his and threw his entire mission away and teams with homelander against Soldier Boy. Soldier Boy on the other hand blew up his ex when he found out she betrayed him. Stuck to the mission.
@@ChaBoi777 I don't think any of this means he is Fi suggestive.
What i see tho is NeFi superego block, he percieves all supes to be the same, posess the same inner content and qualities that sooner or later will make them bad, painting them all in the same brush, we see him with ryan that he was trying his hardest not to fall to such thinking but in the end his worst struggles got confirmed once again, supes are indeed sht and it don't matter who they are, NeFi superego af