What is Block 5 of Falcon 9? Why'd SpaceX throw non Block 5's away?
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Block 5. The elusive final iteration of SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket is finally almost here. Although we’ve known quite a bit about what’s going to be new with Block 5, the general public has had a very hard time understanding what, when, why, how, huh’s when it comes to block changes.
Well today, we’re going to try and untangle the confusion of block changes, revealing the history of the Falcon 9 and how its evolved into the fully and rapidly reusable rocket we hope to see with this new ultimate Block 5 Falcon 9.
We’re also going to do a side by side comparison of all versions of the Falcon 9 including Block 5 to show you just how much is changing before SpaceX commits to freezing the Falcon 9 so astronauts can finally ride on top.
And lastly we’re going to explain why SpaceX has been throwing away some of their older Falcon 9’s before they get into this new Block 5 booster.
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People can be frustratingly cynical, sarcastic & pessimistic. Instead of giving SpaceX thumbs up for trying, they laugh at the idea. That's really _not_ the right attitude for an industry that *requires* out of the box, unorthodox thinking in order to bring the costs down. Now we already have 20 something landings behind us. 2 of those side by side... Let's try not to use the word "impossible" that quickly.
Also, nice to see a return of the black interstage on block 5, takes me back to the Falcon 1 days.
Most of that laughing came from ULA executives, who went so far as to tell Congress that you couldn't land a rocket.
That is unfortunately human nature, which requires hard work to ween out. Same thing applies to all big problems of world: capitalism, climate change, you name.
It is insane to think one man would have to take all blame and pressure for solving these kind of insanely hard and complex problems, when people bully other people for insignificant things in social media. There hundreds of billionaires who chose to be "puppet master", not sharing any info. Elon Musk is brave just to be open about many things like accidents, mistakes he did and so on. But he has learned quickly also. Same is true of Tesla and many things in business.
Great video! Great information! Congrats on 100K subs my dude! Praise be!
jdawg
my lord
Why is Jesus a member?
nice
My lord can you bless SpaceX with a great future and elon a great long life
Reflying within 48 hours and being able to fly 10 times with only minor refurbishment will be huge. They can build 10-20 of them and be completely covered until the BFR is done.
Not quite 48 hours yet
@@rocketcello5354 It's really close though at 72 hours between Crew 2 and Crew 3.
This comment aged very well. Not nearly as many B5 boosters but way more flights.
And yesterday, spacex just hit 10 flights on a single booster
@@someidiot4311 they are massively behind schedule though, nowhere near where they promised to be a few years ago. BFR will problaby not fly commercially for several more years. SLS will likely be the vehicle of choice for the Artemis program.
I wonder if Block 5 Boosters will get individual names. You know, akin to ships and some planes and trains. Would make it a lot easier to keep track off which Booster does and did which mission.
Hygswitch they have serial numbers and I think wikipedia has a list tracking them, it's not as cool as names but it kind of helps out
I am aware, but you have to admit that names are easier to keep track of than numerical identifiers.
B1046 and B1047 are block 5 boosters
I suggest hindenburg, katrina, titanic, nixon,
Akin to the space shuttles
Personally, the all-white does have a nice feel to it, it looks so different than anything we've seen before, especially since it's such a tall and thin rocket, but I like the touches of black, it's a callback to the early days of the space age and it simply looks cool.
and those parts are gonna be a bit sooty from reentry so will make cleaning easy, i hope they don't clean them at all, old future style like star wars.
They should paint it all black. That way the soot would not even be noticed.
Curtis Quick for the same reason you don't wear a black t shirt on a hot sunny day, this would be a really bad idea
Curtis Quick it has to be cleaned for proper aerodynamics anyway
You aren't one, but you sound like a freaking SJW. XD
Technically they all landed, some just utilized high-V lithobraking to reduce speed rather then rocket thrust.
Skwisgar2322 lithobraking! HaHaHa!
Also known as
"Unscheduled rapid disassembly"
Rapid Unplanned Dissasembly Event
or RUDE for short
I’ll dumb it down
They all land
Just some in a ball of flames
isn't it high-G lithobraking?
Rather than SpaceX throw their rockets away, can't they just give me one?
Ethan Roberts If you pay the delivery costs
Just land it near me and I'll pick it up.
They're much bigger than they look! Have you got the space to hold one?
I do! I could probably modify it well enough to fly even better!
Or I could turn it into a house!
im now at 11:18 and Tim, you are surpass yourself! this video is the most informative video of knowledge about Space X and the Falcon 9 that i've ever seen! thanks a lot for that!
The progress that SpaceX has been making lately is incredible! I can't wait for Block 5 launching, and Dragon v2
Think this April 2018 when five launchings will take place ! One launch may be a Block 5 ! tjl P.S. www.spaceflightnow.com is one place to get launch updates !
First Block 5 currently scheduled for April 5th. Dragon 2 unmanned test in August, and *first manned flight* in December, if all goes well.
Congrats on 100k!!!!!!! I’ve been here since 9k! Good luck in the future and Godspeed!
Godspeed? On a science channel?
@@zoidburg2975 Lol, I know right? But I think they used to say that durring the Apollo missions aswell. 😌
I guess the nomenclature doesn't mean too much, but your explanation of the whole falcon 9 evolution was reaaally great information! I didn't know this many awesome changes were made!
I'm 3d printing a 5 ft falcon 9
I approve of both a 3D printed 5 foot tall Falcon 9 and an AMG Wagon #wagonlife
im thinking of 3d printing a falcon9
I've just 3d printed a few Tesla roadsters, with the Falcon Heavy adaptor and will print (another) second stage but this time scaled the correct size.
Hey Ethan! I keep running into you! You have a 3D printer too? Nice! I can send you my BFF model file
Me too
You were mentioned by SpaceX Now ^^
I got a notification from SpaceXNow about this video while watching it haha
What do u mean mentioned by SpaceX?
mentioned by "spacex-Now" in one word. its an smartphone notifikation app^^
läuft ohh
Was?
Can confirm, the first human flight by SpaceX was awesome :P
I think Elon needs to turn an old rocket into a giant Boring Company flamethrower
That would be epic :)
Throwback to when Tim wore a spacesuit, block 5 was new and starship was BFR
yaaa good old times
So close to 100k!!!
Couple hundred subscribers and he'll make it. Probably by the weekend.
Ok,ok message received... :)
He's there now!
Watching the video 99, clicking on his channel 100,268 :)
He is now :)
This video hits 6 years in a week or so and it's crazy to see just how far space X , falcon 9 and Everyday astronaut has come!
Can’t wait for crew missions of falcon 9 Block 5, new Glenn, next falcon heavy launch, next falcon 9 landing (two didn’t attempt landing in a row :(.),next attempt to catch fairing, bfr grasshopper flights, SLS launch, BFR supply missions, and OF COURSE , BFR 2024 LAUNCH!!!
In Elon We Musk, In Musk We Trust.
(I am really obsessed with SpaceX)
Zalegend
^Found Amber Heard's sockpuppet^
It's really hard not to love 'em
Can't wait for BFR heavy
I'm obsessed to the point people have to exchange things for my silents over the great Elon Musk.
Also means I am in love with this guy channel, he explains every thing in detail.
It would be cool if they name the block 5 boosters. Like the shuttles. So you can recognize the boosters when they fly again.
some recognizable features and paint schemes would be nice too. something like a blue band near the top, or the lower third painted red, some patterns maybe, like a repeating tiling. colour matching legs could also help with the cool factor.
the silhouette of a 2nd stage (and specific the fairing used) being painted on for every successful mission like old ww2 bombers counting sorties could also be cool. like "these are the things i delivered.".
As someone who worked for a company that sold a similar number (low hundreds) of individual, cutting-edge, custom, multi-million dollar devices, it's likely that the naming scheme is not consistent even in-house. Each machine of ours sold was a known quantity, but typically could have any of half-a-dozen or more custom features, even as some cost-plus features became standard, and old standard features became obsolete. Like SpaceX, there was a certain amount of jockeying for delivery positions, and newer serial numbers not rarely had older features and vice-versa. There were 'blocks' of various sorts, some involving visible changes, that made them distinguishable to experts, but also many internal options that were not visible or readily discerned.
Since these devices were not expended, it also happened that they were occasionally upgraded after delivery. Sometimes by the customer (breaking their contract).
As the numbers we delivered grew, with a few exceptions the configurables became increasingly standardized and externally visible. The models grew to correspond increasingly to the serial numbers; by the time we reached ~100 devices, the serial numbers were split into basic chassis groupings, and each chassis class took similar or identical modules, even across chassis.
and 2 years later, we got an american commercial rocket to the ISS (edit 11/27/2023: spacex has done everything not many thought was possible... rapidly reuse a rocket... and make a profit)
I like the white..... But I'm excited for the new technologies
I've been following SpaceX since before you started this channel up and I didn't know half of the block details, well done.
They can just claim that "Block" is short for Blockchain and the value of the company will instantly double for some reason that nobody understands
LMAO!
Hands down the clearest explanation of the versions! I've tried to sort it out on my own in the past, with limited results. One thing I would love to know more about is the specifics of weight reductions, do we know of any specific examples, or even the dry weight of the different iterations?
most likely not, we dont have very many exact numbers at all tbh.
Now I have to get black filament to print the landing legs.
It would be a dream come true to see you hosting an official SpaceX livestream! Amazing video once again
A big thanks for clearing out the naming conventions. Now it’s easier to understand why they dispose of older first stages as they don’t fit into their launch program. Even for shorter missions to LEO.
You clearly fill a void in the world of information. 🙏🏼 🤪 🌒
I really like the design of Block 5. It looks so modern!
Thanks for you effort in researching and presenting all of this info in a comprehensive, yet easily understandable way...!
dude i love that you are so down to earth and you really talk to us as people. you dont try to seem smart you just are. big diff
Woah thank you! That means a lot! 🙏
I'm 3D printing a falcon nine with spots for 2 solid rocket motors from Estes in the first and second stages. Total height: 1.13 Meters, not meaning to copy off of AMG but he reminded me
Please upload to thingiverse
That's big. I used to launch & lose Estes about 30-40 years ago.
Can do! Uploading now, and that's somewhat small compared to some that I see
When are you planning on launching?
Thumbs up for explaining something in 17 minutes which would have taken me a lot of frustration and time to investigate myself :)
If only they could give it to me.........
*"your falcon 9 has been delivered! Ready for pickup at your nearest launch site"*
I am not sure what costs more, the rocket, or the shipping
It would make sense to perform destructive testing for all of the earlier models. For those that don't fly, they could do destructive static tests on the ground. Pressure tests, thermal tests, and impact tests for example. That data would be relatively cheap and easy to acquire and potentially useful for exploring limits or confirming them. Even if the design changes quite a bit, they would still be a data point for comparison.
I’m pretty sure block V is still a Full Thrust. I thought Musk talked about a “final version” of the full thrust when he introduced it.
My thoughts: Block five looks awesome, the edit Cam is funny, you should cooperate with spaceX to make some cool, T-shirt designs what says "Im an everyday astronaut and SpaceX fan"
Might be worth asking SpaceX for permission to use their logo on products (probably giving them a final approval). Most companies would just say "no", but they do seem to like Everyday Astronaut.
So Block 5 is basically "the air plane of rockets"
Little Cripple, it's more like ten - use rated.
No BFR is the airplane of rockets, Block 5 is like the wright brothers.
John Roberts "Basically"
David Ogawa, That was what I thought until I listened to this video. The Block 5s have to be refurbished after about ten flights (whatever, exactly, that means) but Tim says they have a total lifespan of one hundred flights. To which I say, FANTASIC!
Odysseus Rex refurbishing the block 5 rockets is likely going to consist of rebuilding the engines and replacing wearable parts. They won't have to be fully replaced for a long while.
You did a hell of a job explaining. I love also the fact that you are providing perfect subtitles in English for us who do not hear so well (anymore). Way to go! By the way, I agree with you that Block 5 is the fith iteration of Falcon 9 FT.
I highly doubt the grid fins are forged. That would be an incredibly difficult forging. Much more likely they are cast. Forging makes no sense for the job the grid fin does, and casting would be much easier to do.
yeah, its obviously cast. Forging it would be just impossible lmao
Awesome video...lots of great info about Block 5 and the certification process thanks !!
Congratulations on 100K subs!!! Well deserved.
at 6:00 that Falcon 9 didn’t get dirty when it did the entry burn, it did when it lifted off! lol 😂
Tim's video out? Instant like
you're the most accessible person regarding the topic. i love you so much.
block 5 looks sick
in a good way
Tim Dodd, making my SpaceX viewing so much better. Another most excellent video.
How do you clean that flightsuit?
basically 🤷♂️
Only needs a decent clean after you pee in it🤣
howtobasic can answer that
Very carefully
You don't need to clean a space suit. There's already a VACUUM.
Absolutely amazing content as always! One comment though: for a non-native speaker, it gets pretty hard to listen to all those numbers, so how about just sticking to either SI or Imperial units, but not both? Preferably metric, of course ;) If you keep the conversion as text in the video, I think that would cut it and make the listening more smooth.
I’ll miss the full White layout for the F9...bony a big fan of the white and black layout
Would be nice it they just came out and stated the obvious; You don't throw away rockets unless they cost more to refurbish than to build new.
Your 100k subscriber is almost here :)
Excellent level of depth.
Thanks for your effort
No one in the mainstream media goes this deep.
Thank you for #metricfirst
Freibuis i mean metric system is better in space
Metric system is the reason I did not completely fail near the end of a particular school year.
I prefer the standard system better.
David Burnett which is metric. Since literally every country except three uses metric
@@dann9208 not only in space. Everywhere except for half gallon milk, which is more practical than one liter milk
I think this is what happens when you name stuff after you change them and you have no firm schedule far in advance for what you might change next. Screw it, it's the Falcon 9, full stop! That is, until we change the number of engines... :-)
Congratulations on 100k!
The microcracks in the turbo fins don't occur during testing/static fire? That would be very strange wouldn't it?
i cant think of any significant changes in stress either. ok, there's less pressure outside, and the parts are better insulated due to less air, but i dont see why that would change much
Holy crap your video quality is really clean. good camera
How cool would be a Falcon Heavy with 3 Block 5 cores?!
Will probably happen in the future ^^
If all goes well maybe we will see it in July
IT'S HAPPENING!!!!
Next Heavy is all block 5.
Sooo... June-ish? Amazing!!
Congratulations for 100k .... Truly deserved
This is the best summary ever! You are great and so enjoyable to watch and informative too! ☺
Tim you keep things simple and informative for enthousiasts like me. Just like the TMRO team you are doing a good job and keep people informed in an understandable way. Guys like you make the difference either people will or won't follow spacetravel development.
SpaceX could fuel the falcon9 at the drone ship and fly to KSC :D
except for the blunt end making it aerodynamically unstable in the forward direction.
This is an exceptional installment of Everyday Astronaut!
Dang even a rocket is more bootiful then me lol
Congrats for reaching 100k. I subscribed to you when you had like 20 or 15k. And to see that your channel becomes bigger and bigger just makes me happy. Thank you Tim!
It’s like I have these questions, then BOOM you put out a video on it.
I love it when I actually learn something new about spacex rather than just seeing the same info over and over. I am excited for the new version with its new design. +1 to everything
As for Atlas V, I've never been a fan of SRBs on crew ships. Too dangerous since you can't turn 'em off.
At least there is a launch abort option
Atlas V will be launching CST-100 Starliner not Orion
Pretty sure Atlas V can't even put Orion into low Earth orbit since Orion is so heavy
Fantastic video!!! Congratulations on the research and putting together and untangling all this info for all of us!!!
You said that grid fins are biggest forged titanium piece, but they're actually cast and machined.
I wonder how much they cost
Are you sure it's cast? I have not seen a TI part in the aerospace industry that is subjected to what the grid fins go through cast.
Robert Hale I'm not sure, but Elon said they are: twitter.com/elonmusk/status/878821062326198272?s=20
I've been praying to you all day. Why haven't you responded?
Tim,
Congratulations a really useful video on the BLOC story. Really useful!!
Also congratulations for the 100K subscribers it’s a true testament to your inborn interest in space and for your great personality!
Keep your individuality untouched!!
I love it!
Super great video I've been awaiting for month.
Keep up that work.
Greeting from Germany!
so so good....I came here after the launch, and I salute your attention to detail!
People: Haha that's impossible
Elon: Hey I know something that was also impossible.
People: What's that?
Elon: Impossibility.
Great show, never saw it before. But I'm hooked. Just a bit disappointed that BFR means Big FALCON Rocket. We all thought it was something else! Thanks for the hard work.
Block4 lives matter
so racist, we all know that only landing legs and interstage lives matters. /s
you, joke, woosh
SATURN V LIVES MATTER!
Oh wait, they're dead already. Aw.
I don't thin that helmet matches the suit.
I really appreciate your channel because you put a LOT of good work into every episode
4:59
Since when does 5880 KN represent "almost a 30% increase" in thrust over 4940 KN? By my math that's a 19% increase.
19% is almost 20%, but americans think better in divisions of 2 so it's easier to say it's a fourth more powerful, now we take 25% and do lossy conversions untill we end up with 26, which we can just as well round up to the closest round number which is 30%, and
/s
i dont know either
maybe he mean to say that there was a 30% increase in payload weight, meaning the falco 9 could carry almost a 1/3 more payload
hard work gets rewarded, keep making these videos dude
Your video looks so pretty! What is your camera/lens combo for filming?
I shoot everything with a Sony A7RII and an 18-35 F1.8 Sigma Art (APS-C) lens. Thank you :) I'm trying to get better at shooting video (coming from photography)
Your videos do look stunning. A quick comparison with the other space-focused channels that most of your subscribers also probably subscribe to make it clear that your background in photography is helpful. The visual quality of Fraser Cain's videos have improved greatly over the past year or so, and Vintage Space has always looked good, but the Scott Manleys, TMROs, Curious Droids and SciShow Spaces of this world have nothing on you when it comes to visual crispness!
I'm afraid you got some of those thrust figures wrong:
- That v1.0 figure was for v1.0 Block 2, which never flew. Block 1 had lower thrust, though the actual figure is hard to find (some sources claim 450kN per engine, others 480).
- 7607kN, the current figure on SpaceX's website, is for Block 5. Pre-Block 5 v1.2 was 6806kN.
Falcon 9 versions, Block 5, even Falcon Heavy... Who cares. Looking forward to BFR and Methane engines. THAT one will shake not just the industry, but regular human minds as well.
Yeah the engines that will go on a rocket that produces as much pollution as 1,000,000 cars in 1 launch regularly
@@jairofthecosmos5022 That's not how it works.
Spaceflight is responsible for like 0.005% of the pollution and it's for good cause anyway.
I don't care if you don't care about falcon 9 and heavy, I do and clearly a lot of other people do as well. The only sad thing about starship is that they won't be flying the iconic f9 and fh anymore. I'd like to see them make a concept with side booster landings again.
wow that was comprehensive, congrats for that research!
What will be the first block 5 flight ... ?
next month april 5
A Bangladeshi communications satellite.
I was wondering about this during the post-falcon-heavy interviews, so thanks for clearing this up a bit :).
im starting to tink that you migt be the person who has worn a space suite the longest and that includes astronauts/cosmonauts/anybody els
flight suit*
Wtf
It's amazing to me how you only have 110k subscribers. I honestly figured that you would be pushing a million by now. Love your channel, research and information.
Yay! The best ever astronaut.Forget Armstrong ,Timm is where it's at.
Yesss ya made it. 100 K congrats. Glad to be part of it. Well done.
Why don't you ask them for an old rocket and turn it into something cool like a house?
Dave Webster I don't think they'd give that away, knowing that the fairing already costs 8 million dollars
also, ITAR has something to say
I REALLY love the slick, beautiful white falcon 9, but I think that black accents on it will look real nice! Love you're work! Keep it up! Also, lovin the chill background music! I as a professional jazz and classical musician respect what you have made!
cool vid
OMG FIRST I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS FIRST
I believe that you hit 100,000 subs on this video. Maybe one after this. That was 17 months ago and you are almost to 400,000 now. Great job man. Keep up all the good work.
if i had a nicel for every time the falcon blew up in flight id have two nicles
wich isnt alot but its weird it happened twice
The abort test and?
@@ryanrenolds crs 7 i guess
They work as intended!
Black accents on F9 are so sexy :p
Dingo Prod lol 😂😂😂
I can’t wait to see more Block 5’s fly! :D
Have you got two differnt color eyes?
This was one of the most anticipated and most satisfying videos so far, for me at least. I think the second interpretation of Blcok 5 is probably right, but who knows! Can't wait to see that bird fly! Thanks Tim!