Ur a tdx fanboy bro. Tdx copied toxicnator is a toxic gunner copy, grenadier is a demoman copy, artillery is a mortar copy etc plus tds is more og so a newbie like u who just doesnt like tds because ur bad at it is just bringing up cap information. Tdx playercount rn is 2.3k and tds playercount rn is 34k so keep ur mouth shut kid (im not a pissed off 7yr old btw)
ik this is satire but even when either games copy from eachother they still dont copy and paste stuff this stuff if is still hard to make and they put genuine work on these updates its not easy being a developer so calm tf down
no way this kid be thinkin' that tdx owns this much intellectual property. both tds and tdx are in the same genre on the same platform. they are bound to have similar features. no idea why the tdx community is beefin' with tds, after all the tdx community is comprised of people who have played/currently play tds. its lowkey annoying when people be postin' shit like this and tryna create beef between two great games. by the way, i hope you know that the whole reason john created tdx is because of tds. if there was no tds, there would be no tdx.
The tds thumbnails have looked like that literally forever. also, tds leaked their abilities on like the same day that tdx announced their abilities too. There is no way tds devs did all that in 1 day
-Freezing mechanics -Boss moving on average speed (Patient Zero vs almost every TDX boss) -Enemy spams in intermediate mode -Goofy boss death animation while comparing MK IV and Patient Zero -Time Scale
@@marri0nz I personally don't care because I quit TDS. We're just saying because it's really obvious. If you saw the armored factory update, TDS copied the thumbnail and update. TDX name was something like: TANKS💥 (game name), and TDS had: 💥TANKS (game name). And there are way more things that TDS copied.
It’s really disrespectful that John still wears his bloxy even after he left Tds for tdx. Also tdx copied tds too. The John tower came from tds first, ranger is basically solider , Edj only has an E in it so they did not fully copy tds Dj, Armored factory is military base. Juggernaut copied Tds minigunner. Toxicanator is toxic gunner. Gold towers were (kinda copied cuz Tower battles) the John tower ability is basically the same from Tds. You can’t say Tds copied tdx without saying tdx also copied Tds, the only thing that is keeping the tower from being the same are the names.
bruh r u dumb the john tower is JOHN HIMSELF, he has the right to put himself in his own game. dj from tower battles actually came first, so tds copied tower battles there tds military base is stolen from tower battles, the tdx armored factory is atleast unique and different tds stole the minigunner from tower battles, and, juggernaut looks nothing like the tds minigunner toxicnator functions completely different from toxic gunner tds copied tower battles gold towers, and, tdx is friends with tower battles and they even do collabs, so tdx isnt stealing gold towers from tds, they got permission from tower battles john tower buffs damage, not firerate like tds your argument is dumb, this is likely ragebait lol
@@REASITIC Your first comment says that TDX copied the concept of TDS but actually both of these game were inspired by Tower Battles. Also I wanna get an answer from you "Where did TDX copy TDS?". Because I see that only TDS is copying TDX and TDX isn't copying TDS.
@@REASITIC TDS copied towers from TB and TDX made the same thing. The name isn't actually the same if you didn't see it's Tower Defense X and not Tower Defense Simulator. Now the problem is that TDS is not just copying TDX, but It repeats every TDX step. For example TDX got new update with these power ups and after some days TDS also got an update with fully copied power ups from TDX. That's even more than copying, that's just terrible.
As a lvl 309 tds player this is all true. TDS was extremely bland before TDX dropped i’ve never seen TDS update so much in a few months it’s actually insane. And what have the updates been? Them adding things that are in TDX… 🗿TDS devs had no competition before which is why they didn’t care about game updates but now TDX is threatening TDS this is gonna be a long battle between TDX and TDS.
Tds player challenge Dont use any of these phrases: Btd6 had it before It was planned a long time ago Raz didnt accept the updates (like brah, then they wouldhave been done when raz did leave-) Are there any other ones ? These are the most common ones ive heard-
Ok let me break it up. Stop comparing TDS & TDX because TDS actually respect the developers of TDX, just because they copied? NO THEY TOOK INSPIRATION TDS GOT INSPIRED BY TDX AND TDX RESPECTS THEM SO TDS RESPECTED THEM ALSO BECAUSE DEVELOPERS HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS AND DIFFERENT WAYS. SO STOP SAYING TDS COPIED TDX, WHY NOT RESPECT THEM? THEY HAVE A LIFE! SO STOP DOING THIS BULL CRAP.
firstly, tds had used that thumbnail style for years, just look at lunar overture. and if youre getting that nitpicky over postition, the juggernaut and mini arent facing the same way. second, they announced power abilities at the SAME TIME. they both stole powers from btd6, live with it. A guy who lays spikes isnt the same as a guy who lays purely mines. the only thing i agree with here is the barracks claim. TDS was a school project before, and has changed quite a bit from source. I'm not gonna get into tds copied tb because thats not what gnome talked about for the majority.
Well you must consider that not only the trapper is identical to the mine layer but the cryo mancer is identical to the top path of the cryo blaster wean tdx added tanks they did the rework tdx add a game mode tds does too and power ups weren't announced the same time from what I remember tds announced them 2 or days later with the nuke sneek peak and counting how purely the nuke in tds has been made idk there are other thinks that now I can't remember but you get the point they are following what is doing tdx step by step and I'm saying this as a player of both games
@@danielenardi9745cryo is pretty similar, but can TDS not update towers they already have when tdx releases similar ones? Can TDS never rework shotgunner, bring back militants enraging shout or what?
The thumbnail copy claim is brain-dead, powers were announced at too similar of a time for below to go "hey guys let's copy tdx", they needed to talk about what powers and how to balance them.
To be fair they probably already had them in the works for a while they just released them when Tdx did so they can get more players with the hype from tdx
False my friend, TDX Commander is due to a direct collab with the person who made Tower Battles and will have an entire event dedicated towards the commanders addition to TDX. As for TDS's, Their commander rework 1 for 1 copies TB's commander's abilities (Call to arms, APC, Air strike). Even if TDS's doesn't add the air strike ability its evident there still copying TB while TDX is doing a direct collab with them as stated by GDI in his most recent video.
@@onlinename7697 I disagree, yes TDS has a very very similar commander, but we don’t know what the new rework will bring or what abilities the commander will have. The only information we have is that it has better animation.
Dude, people like these annoy me so much. If one game adds something and a nother adds one its copying. First off TDS and TDX are 2 COMPLETELY different games with different UI and models. BUT if the game adds COMPLETELY different ability's its copying doesn't make sense. And it really doesn't matter, they're both making money and nethier game is really failing. All that matters is that you have fun. Nothing else.
@@redzlayer-49I mean he did a community post about this, and said it was satire but then contradicts himself by actually looking for people to disprove his claim which means he took it seriously to some extent and either denies them or just says something like "yes". So at this point, no one knows if this really is satire.
its hilarious af seeing the 2 fanbases im in argue which game is better when theyre both good when the devs of both games are chill with eachother. these satire videos adding more fuel to the fire makes it even funnier 🤭
There are the things they have also copied: 1. Tanks (When TDX got an update with tanks TDS reworked their tanks after couple of days) 2. The April Fools event (John added skibidi toilets on the april fools and TDS also did it after TDX) 3. Commander (When John announced a new tower "Commander" and after some time TDS reworked their commander LLL) 4. Intermediate Mode (We are waiting for elite now in TDS) 5. Normal mode name was changed to easy mode in TDS (TDX has easy mode) My opinion on TDS copying TDX is just that TDS doesn't want TDX to have their own towers, modes, maps, etc. that TDS doesn't have. Although TDS can't even copy it properly, TDS is just repeating TDX things in a cartoon quality for kiddos.
no, in fact the case of April 1st was really a great knowledge or they both decided to do the same, I remember that TDS first posted about the April 1st event, after 1 minute TDX posted
Talking about the military base, it was probably an inspiration in the first 4 levels, I say this because a TDS server moderator said that they are still best friends and will possibly have a collab
@@funidog3613 tds was actually given permission to take inspiration from tower battles? also tds didn't copy tower battles, if it was a copy it would be a rip of the game. which is what yall clearly don't understand. tds was a school project BASED ON TOWER BATTLES, litterally do your research before trying to argue with me. tdx was not the only one to be given permission to take INSPIRATION from tower battles, because tds also was.
Tds copy tdx? Solar eclipse thumbnail: Trapper is same like mine layer? Btd6 does have it before tdx so does that mean tdx also copy it? Consumable copy tdx They already plan that since 2020 or 2021
Hi, I use a translator, but. Yes, the trapper also has mines as in TDX and shiki as in BTD6 Rather, TDS took and combined the BTD6 and Minelayer spikes factory from TDH TDX consumables may have been taken from there, but there is no nuclear missile in BTD6, for example, while in TDS it was added after TDX was added About the plans of the TDS a lot of things planned, but also not implemented, and in the beginning it was literally TB 2.0 and continues to take out ideas such as the commander’s revork, do you care?
Consumables is a common idea in video game industry bruh. It's like TDS has Tank doesn't mean they copy T-90M or K2 black panther. Even other types of games like turn-based or RPG have them. Stop mentioning that monkey game before you turn into one🙏
@@skron4 TDS leaked consumables in 2020, alongside with powerups. The update got scrapped then a few years later TDX announces it. 30 minutes later TDS announces consumables again. They can't make a full nuke in 30 minutes. It's literally impossible unless 100 people worked on it.
I dont think u watched the vid He did mention that tds added trapper it right after tdx did release the game/mine layer Not that they cant have the same idea, but that tds did it weeks after tdx..
Ok tds is not copying tdx but even if it was I don’t care tds and the tdx community are at peace it was all fun and games and below and John are friends irl if John thought tds was copying him he would tell him to stop which he has not done due to the fact that tds just hasn’t copied tdx I love tdx but why you got to make this video about something that is not a big deal are you trying to cause drama cuz that’s what it feels like why do you care John does not care I know your just doing this for views look just don’t try and cause drama for no reason
Ikr Im already quite good in both games I got all of the tds golden tower and hardcore tower and in tdx I already got all of the towers. I dont really care if they copying blah blah blah am just playing the game dude.
saying the pw2 thumbnail doesnt count because its not facing directly forward is stupid,, by the same logic you could say tds didnt copy tdx's thumbnail bc the juggernaut is facing towards the left while the minigunner faces towards the right 😭
I would but TDS blatantly plagiarizing both TB and TDX instead of trying to come up with there own idea's has destroyed TDS's balancing. Consumables were probably the worst edition ever in TDS and its clear that they simply looked over at TDX and copied them instead of making something unique. Or how about TDS's commander rework which literally just turns commander into a 1to1 copy of TB with the APU ability. As for TDX, GDI has publicly stated that the commander tower is purely an event tower which will be winnable when the TDX x TB collab kicks off. Personally I wouldn't even be that mad if TDS actually added onto what TDX or TB made to create there own unique thing. I should mention this comes from a person who loves both TDX and TDS, The recent 2 updates TDS has made with patient zero & consumables were by far one of the worst updates they could of made thus far. Hell I mean even the merc base is pretty stupid imo, like you cant convince me that TDS isnt copying TDX with the merc base.
John roblox used to and probably might still work on tds, also, tdx used assets like skipping waves, end wave money, and some more. If you don't know, John used to work as an admin in tds and made some of the most nostalgic trailers. If you also didn't know that John roblox created tdx then I'm pretty sure that it's not called "copying", it's called inspiration.
hey tds didnt copy tdx's abilities they literally have been working on the consumables for years they literally said that they were working on it for years
TDS is literally know as tower delay simulator, you're giving them a LOT of credit if you think they could add consumables in a week. My estimate is that they started working on them in 2019.
Its called competition. TDX Doesnt own the concepts to these towers, And we have had sneakpeaks of these towers and abilites before TDX added them. But in the end TDA did copy TDS at the start. Theyre different games now, but they did back then
below and john are still friends im sure about that and they probably talk about ideas for their games while having a normal talk, just ideas not concepts
TDS kids forget that TDX is run by John Roblox, a loyal person to the TDS community, has a skin, use to have a tower, and is the old voice actor for commander.
Tbh the abilties of patient zero is similar to the plague doctor or revived plague doctor bc when he throws hes potions the towers it decrease the damage and firerate.
another copy is how they are giving the modes names of difficulties in TDS (intermediate, easy), like tdx, while before TDX came out it was original names based off of the enemies you face (normal, molten, fallen)
you mean they could be also based on the old names like easy turned to normal, normal went to molten, hard went to golden, and insane went to fallen, but now it makes sense why fallen would be hard now cause if they rename hardcore to insane then it makes sense.
now hear me out im pretty sure tds and tdx made a deal that tdx can be created with tds's permission BUT tds can have tdx's ideas since if tdx didnt have tds's permission tds can just take down tdx since it was created first and thats called copyright :D
the tdx community i litteraly just a pool of toxicity and hatred for one game in specific that im probably just gonna quit the game and focuse on tds, probubly a better use of my time than a game where the entire community calls a game a copy just for fun and disgueses it as "a calling out" TDX didnt invent nukes,airstrikes, and many other power ups plus they have a completly diffrent system of getting them and the do pretty much diffrent things apart from the nuke which they literaly couldnt make function diffrently or else it pretty much wouldnt be a nuke plus john worked in TDS before he even had the thought of TDX also polluted so your entire arguement is litteraly disproven in one comment so in short, no TDS is not copying TDX you just want attention from the TDS fanbase.
nah nah broksie... in all seriousness, these updates are a little too coincidental. like think about it... TDX got a cryo blaster, TDS got a cryo blaster shortly after. TDX added a new gamemode, TDS added a new gamemode after. TDX added a new summoner tower, TDS added a new summoning tower... and TDS is crumbling anyway with its monthly microtransactions
Nah bro the past few TDS updates had some correlation with tdx, Cryo blasted and Cryomancer, new TdX gamemode New TDS gamemode, Abilites in tdx abilities in tds, they are basically added in shit that tdx added, its was to coincidental for it to be not suspicious
@@shadow_gaming20098 The ui was last reworked in 2022 or 2023, and it still looked outdated. Most people can agree that it needed a rework. I do agree that they should have kept the squares though.
Are we going to talk about how the new TDS gamemode is called "Intermediate Mode", and there is a TDX gamemode named the exact same thing that came about before. Oh and don't even get me started on the Brawler. The SECOND the Smasher was revealed for TDX, mfing TDS goes and makes a new melee tower. Coincidence? I think not.
Na i dont defending im gona say something simple marketing and we dont care so any tds fan feel free to like or dislike just remember its how the world work😂
Fun fact, the items abilities in both games are based off of Bloons tower defence 6 (i think that’s the name) which has been around longer than both Edit: I play both
Tds was doing this type of thumbnails for long time and the consumables was invented by Btd6 and also TDX copied mortar from Btd6 but my opinion is that Tdx and Tds can copy each other because it makes bhot games have more stuff to unlock, new features and this makes them even more fun to play
This video is clear rage bait, I’m not gonna have a full on argument with rage bait as I’m actually smart unlike most of these comments. If you’re gonna rage bait make it less obvious
That was my debait on why you can't say tdx is a saint you say tds copy then you whip out tb, bd, and many other games before tdx which had there ideas shown
execution matters when taking something for yourself. the tower ideas may be similar, but they can have their own identity. minigunner and juggernaut have the same concept yet they are different in their own ways.
They aren’t copying each other John and below are sharing ideas for their own games so that they can make their own ideas you people are the reason why the community are so against each other it’s just two different games deal with it and besides it’s hard for people to make “original ideas” when it’s obviously taken by some other game theirs a difference between inspiration and copying Edit:I didn’t even see the comment saying this video was mostly rage bait sorry💀
Ok i'm gonna be honest these types of video are getting annoying like yeah they're all satire but this is getting ridiculous (Plus they're not even comparable in the slightest)
its been long enough i can confirm this was ragebait (mostly)👍
Ur a tdx fanboy bro. Tdx copied toxicnator is a toxic gunner copy, grenadier is a demoman copy, artillery is a mortar copy etc plus tds is more og so a newbie like u who just doesnt like tds because ur bad at it is just bringing up cap information. Tdx playercount rn is 2.3k and tds playercount rn is 34k so keep ur mouth shut kid (im not a pissed off 7yr old btw)
@@Cosmic_bacon0101 smartest tds fan (im also level 208 in tds)
Im level 324 in tds
Ur a 40yr old man playing roblox bro get a job insteading of playing brookhaven with ur 7yr old roblox girlfreind
hey put it back up i need more trolling
Both of them copied Bloons tower defense 6 on consumables 💀
Oh nvm i didnt saw the whole video
@@Sik-e9zglad u corrected that
They still have the right to say they copied
How to get a nuke btd6
@@DominiksPiteronoksBTD6 has cash drops like tds and tdx and earlier
whos gonna tell him that john and below are friends
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even tho the power ups are from bt6 its weird how tds added power ups too soon after tdx did
also the nuke and uav are directly copied
@@TheForgorGaming tdx did not invent nuke or uav there's other games that have that kind of power ups
@@ashirain123world tower defense?
@@I_got_torture ive never played wtd so i didnt know about this :p
TDX announced them on trailer (AC-130 and stuff)
ik this is satire but even when either games copy from eachother they still dont copy and paste stuff this stuff if is still hard to make and they put genuine work on these updates its not easy being a developer so calm tf down
yeah but TDS has purposefully released updates on the same dates as TDX and has done other things that go beyond just similar things.
getting new original ideas without making it too hard to comprehend for the players is also hard
@@Btjumpsc123aresim2 yes
Proof that he is wrong. ua-cam.com/video/Yo2bI8U9epo/v-deo.htmlsi=QrjmlH74hrINhIJe
no way this kid be thinkin' that tdx owns this much intellectual property. both tds and tdx are in the same genre on the same platform. they are bound to have similar features. no idea why the tdx community is beefin' with tds, after all the tdx community is comprised of people who have played/currently play tds. its lowkey annoying when people be postin' shit like this and tryna create beef between two great games. by the way, i hope you know that the whole reason john created tdx is because of tds. if there was no tds, there would be no tdx.
*tower battles 👀?
@@Criticalerror-qg2mdif there was no btd there would be no tb
Real. Tdx and Tds fans be having a gladiator fight on whoever copied their game
@@Dom5S As a TDS fan I can say that TDS definitely is known for plagiarizing other games.
did he even watch the video or does he have the attention span of patrick star?
Ttd hiding in the corner:
true
Facts
So true
ttd will die when tdx x tb x tbz x tds x tower glamtica x cheese td
Cheese td doesn't deserve to be there@@normal_handle47
The tds thumbnails have looked like that literally forever. also, tds leaked their abilities on like the same day that tdx announced their abilities too. There is no way tds devs did all that in 1 day
Tds and tdx in a nutshell:
make a collab that would make a banger update: ❌
player base ranting to the other game on who copied the other: ✅
Tds devs ghosted tdx devs they actually said that bfore
Tds and tdx is doing a collab
@@ItsSami_John has never said anything about a collab between them
@@ItsSami_they're not collabing, they're just chill now, no problems with each other
Proof that he is wrong. ua-cam.com/video/Yo2bI8U9epo/v-deo.htmlsi=QrjmlH74hrINhIJe
-Freezing mechanics
-Boss moving on average speed (Patient Zero vs almost every TDX boss)
-Enemy spams in intermediate mode
-Goofy boss death animation while comparing MK IV and Patient Zero
-Time Scale
Who care if there copying just play them and have fun
yeah
It’s fucking satire💀
based
About the abilities, to be fair, tds did tease it before tdx had even announced it.
Al the rest are great points.
tds teased it 4 years ago and youre telling me that they didnt have time to add it after 4 years? and are coming to add it when tdx adds them?
@@enchanted3820tbh they had other things to do i mean when you look at the updates you probably could understand
@@marri0nz they were working on public match making for a while. just now they are ready to start testing PvP.
@@enchanted3820 one word raz all these cool updates came after raz left
no bug testing/fixing @@nonstopowen9393
At this point its so blatant that im pretty sure John. and Paradoxum are trolling
Nah tds got some beef with him, they removed his admin and his voice lines
The voice lines was becouse they said they wanted more professional voice lines for the new reworked commander. Im pretty sure john is ok with it
Not sure though
Proof that he is wrong. ua-cam.com/video/Yo2bI8U9epo/v-deo.htmlsi=QrjmlH74hrINhIJe
Proof that he is wrong. ua-cam.com/video/Yo2bI8U9epo/v-deo.htmlsi=QrjmlH74hrINhIJe
tds before tdx
argument finish
Okay so? That doesnt prove anything just be cause a game is older doesnt mean it cant copy Pokemon dıd it and this is satire
@@whywontyouletmechoose bro.....
@@sdoivnwifbdo bro what
@@whywontyouletmechoose tds is still better
@@sdoivnwifbdo they both good and thats still youre opinnion i think the two upgrade paths are more uniqe
Tdx is basically becomming at this point tower battles 2
Do you know planet earth work for them 🗿💀
@@Triste_flocon i do know but still doesnt change the fact tdx is has more content from tb
@@fangediespinneyt yeah.. they collabed lmao
@@fangediespinneytjohn literally said that tdx is a sequel to tower battles lore wise, so… guess you’re right ?
Only lore wise tho not gameplay man both games are so different
mfs in the comments literally took the bait seriously 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
Ur mom is my bait
It's hard to tell because this guy sounds like he would be this dump thinking it's a copy he just sounds like that type of guy
@@noobed9646 Bro sounds like an average deeb ngl
@@Baldio-Bas1csur actually so hurt😹😹 tds is cheese defense level 😹😹😹😹
@@Stufforsomething1 bruh
i play both games and tbh idc if they copy each other
Right?! That's what I'm saying but these toxic fans aren't stopping
@@marri0nz I personally don't care because I quit TDS. We're just saying because it's really obvious. If you saw the armored factory update, TDS copied the thumbnail and update. TDX name was something like: TANKS💥 (game name), and TDS had: 💥TANKS (game name). And there are way more things that TDS copied.
@@Coniser3 eh not the thumbnail since they have been doing it since 2021
@@Coniser3 my brother in christ tds did that type of thumblain back in solar eclipse 😭
@@TheUmbraN0tG4ming Ok but the freezing rework in TDS and the "consumables" are still copies
It’s really disrespectful that John still wears his bloxy even after he left Tds for tdx. Also tdx copied tds too. The John tower came from tds first, ranger is basically solider , Edj only has an E in it so they did not fully copy tds Dj, Armored factory is military base. Juggernaut copied Tds minigunner. Toxicanator is toxic gunner. Gold towers were (kinda copied cuz Tower battles) the John tower ability is basically the same from Tds. You can’t say Tds copied tdx without saying tdx also copied Tds, the only thing that is keeping the tower from being the same are the names.
bruh r u dumb
the john tower is JOHN HIMSELF, he has the right to put himself in his own game.
dj from tower battles actually came first, so tds copied tower battles there
tds military base is stolen from tower battles, the tdx armored factory is atleast unique and different
tds stole the minigunner from tower battles, and, juggernaut looks nothing like the tds minigunner
toxicnator functions completely different from toxic gunner
tds copied tower battles gold towers, and, tdx is friends with tower battles and they even do collabs, so tdx isnt stealing gold towers from tds, they got permission from tower battles
john tower buffs damage, not firerate like tds
your argument is dumb, this is likely ragebait lol
yo chill, he didn’t understand the assignment😞
however ye ur argument is mid
ok but why is nobody talking about the fact that tdx literally copied the same concept about tds lmao
TDS copied Tower Battles.
@@Knava3 im not saying they didnt both of them copied sh off eachother lol
@@REASITIC Your first comment says that TDX copied the concept of TDS but actually both of these game were inspired by Tower Battles. Also I wanna get an answer from you "Where did TDX copy TDS?". Because I see that only TDS is copying TDX and TDX isn't copying TDS.
@@Knava3 clearly the concept of the game, name, towers.
@@REASITIC TDS copied towers from TB and TDX made the same thing. The name isn't actually the same if you didn't see it's Tower Defense X and not Tower Defense Simulator. Now the problem is that TDS is not just copying TDX, but It repeats every TDX step. For example TDX got new update with these power ups and after some days TDS also got an update with fully copied power ups from TDX. That's even more than copying, that's just terrible.
As a lvl 309 tds player this is all true. TDS was extremely bland before TDX dropped i’ve never seen TDS update so much in a few months it’s actually insane. And what have the updates been? Them adding things that are in TDX… 🗿TDS devs had no competition before which is why they didn’t care about game updates but now TDX is threatening TDS this is gonna be a long battle between TDX and TDS.
I like how tds fans are malding right now, and trying to pull any defense out of their ass. (Started a war xD)
Tds player challenge
Dont use any of these phrases:
Btd6 had it before
It was planned a long time ago
Raz didnt accept the updates (like brah, then they wouldhave been done when raz did leave-)
Are there any other ones ? These are the most common ones ive heard-
@@fiery1433
Heres some more:
TDX Copied Tower Battles (tower here)
TDX Copied TBZ
John didnt invent (insert feature here)
TDS had (something) before TDX
im a tds fan and i dont care if it copies tdx as logn as it is still fun but its soon gonna be tooo metaversey
I like how tdx fans are hating tds for no reason.
@GBreaker. Because John created such a place for them, for infinite conflicts
It's crazy that even though tds copies ,tds just makes all the copies better, like look at the player count
Ever since the new update came out tds started to copy intermediate
Proof that he is wrong. ua-cam.com/video/Yo2bI8U9epo/v-deo.htmlsi=QrjmlH74hrINhIJe
Ok let me break it up. Stop comparing TDS & TDX because TDS actually respect the developers of TDX, just because they copied? NO THEY TOOK INSPIRATION TDS GOT INSPIRED BY TDX AND TDX RESPECTS THEM SO TDS RESPECTED THEM ALSO BECAUSE DEVELOPERS HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS AND DIFFERENT WAYS. SO STOP SAYING TDS COPIED TDX, WHY NOT RESPECT THEM? THEY HAVE A LIFE! SO STOP DOING THIS BULL CRAP.
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who tf is comparing, he's just saying tds is being too suspicious
they copied the exact same
powers
@@Eddie4evr REMEMBER THIS… inspiration
People are defending tds like they didn't but let's not forget that 50% of there content was taken from tower battles
True.
Bro John roblox and belownatural are friends irl…..
No. At least they're not friends. (checked it myself)
they removed his developer statue
@@Mceggington this is because john asked to do this
@@tglovescats2457 wait really?
@@Mceggington John hasn't said at all, nor any of the devs from TDS. Prob because he's basically quit TDS to work on TDX.
Don't really care who copied who... I care about gaming, I just watch drama and go back playing after 5 minutes
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firstly, tds had used that thumbnail style for years, just look at lunar overture. and if youre getting that nitpicky over postition, the juggernaut and mini arent facing the same way. second, they announced power abilities at the SAME TIME. they both stole powers from btd6, live with it. A guy who lays spikes isnt the same as a guy who lays purely mines. the only thing i agree with here is the barracks claim. TDS was a school project before, and has changed quite a bit from source. I'm not gonna get into tds copied tb because thats not what gnome talked about for the majority.
Well you must consider that not only the trapper is identical to the mine layer but the cryo mancer is identical to the top path of the cryo blaster wean tdx added tanks they did the rework tdx add a game mode tds does too and power ups weren't announced the same time from what I remember tds announced them 2 or days later with the nuke sneek peak and counting how purely the nuke in tds has been made idk there are other thinks that now I can't remember but you get the point they are following what is doing tdx step by step and I'm saying this as a player of both games
Having inspiration is a natural thing y’know
@@danielenardi9745cryo is pretty similar, but can TDS not update towers they already have when tdx releases similar ones? Can TDS never rework shotgunner, bring back militants enraging shout or what?
@@Ctd-t1b gnome isn't saying they were inspired though, he's saying they STOLE.
The thumbnail copy claim is brain-dead, powers were announced at too similar of a time for below to go "hey guys let's copy tdx", they needed to talk about what powers and how to balance them.
Players arguing which game copies and hate the game: ❎
Play the game and enjoy the different game mechanics and gameplay and appreciate both games: ✅
funny to see 2 different fanbases that i am in just argue with eachother
Yeah but its starting to get worse by the day...
To be fair they probably already had them in the works for a while they just released them when Tdx did so they can get more players with the hype from tdx
Fun fact: TDS Commander rework was posted then ten minutes later TDX posted commander, so TDX also copied TDS.
False my friend, TDX Commander is due to a direct collab with the person who made Tower Battles and will have an entire event dedicated towards the commanders addition to TDX.
As for TDS's, Their commander rework 1 for 1 copies TB's commander's abilities (Call to arms, APC, Air strike). Even if TDS's doesn't add the air strike ability its evident there still copying TB while TDX is doing a direct collab with them as stated by GDI in his most recent video.
false information
my buddy that's a event and its a tower battles tower
@@onlinename7697 I disagree, yes TDS has a very very similar commander, but we don’t know what the new rework will bring or what abilities the commander will have. The only information we have is that it has better animation.
@@onlinename7697 mil base has air strike not commander in TDS
tds started as a school project and first the developers worked at tower battles but then started making their own game like John
Dude, people like these annoy me so much. If one game adds something and a nother adds one its copying. First off TDS and TDX are 2 COMPLETELY different games with different UI and models. BUT if the game adds COMPLETELY different ability's its copying doesn't make sense. And it really doesn't matter, they're both making money and nethier game is really failing. All that matters is that you have fun. Nothing else.
Bro does not know what the word "satire" means
@@redzlayer-49half of the comment section doesn't know what 'satire' means
@@noredacteds8781true my friend
@@redzlayer-49I mean he did a community post about this, and said it was satire but then contradicts himself by actually looking for people to disprove his claim which means he took it seriously to some extent and either denies them or just says something like "yes". So at this point, no one knows if this really is satire.
its hilarious af seeing the 2 fanbases im in argue which game is better when theyre both good when the devs of both games are chill with eachother. these satire videos adding more fuel to the fire makes it even funnier 🤭
PROOF GTA 6 COPIED GTA 5
Proof that he is wrong. ua-cam.com/video/Yo2bI8U9epo/v-deo.htmlsi=QrjmlH74hrINhIJe
"They both copied BTD6"
*BTD6 copied Rampart*
it will go for an endless cycle
fr Rampart the real og
There are the things they have also copied:
1. Tanks (When TDX got an update with tanks TDS reworked their tanks after couple of days)
2. The April Fools event (John added skibidi toilets on the april fools and TDS also did it after TDX)
3. Commander (When John announced a new tower "Commander" and after some time TDS reworked their commander LLL)
4. Intermediate Mode (We are waiting for elite now in TDS)
5. Normal mode name was changed to easy mode in TDS (TDX has easy mode)
My opinion on TDS copying TDX is just that TDS doesn't want TDX to have their own towers, modes, maps, etc. that TDS doesn't have.
Although TDS can't even copy it properly, TDS is just repeating TDX things in a cartoon quality for kiddos.
i think its just a coincidence with the skibidi toilet. many different games did that
@@MrGnomeX Possible
no, in fact the case of April 1st was really a great knowledge or they both decided to do the same, I remember that TDS first posted about the April 1st event, after 1 minute TDX posted
Talking about the military base, it was probably an inspiration in the first 4 levels, I say this because a TDS server moderator said that they are still best friends and will possibly have a collab
yall mfs don't realize tds and tdx is generic asf and neither copied eachother istg
"generic af"
Well tds copied tb while tdx was based on tb with rights
Theyre bound to be generic if the first idea is
@@funidog3613 tds was actually given permission to take inspiration from tower battles?
also tds didn't copy tower battles, if it was a copy it would be a rip of the game. which is what yall clearly don't understand.
tds was a school project BASED ON TOWER BATTLES, litterally do your research before trying to argue with me.
tdx was not the only one to be given permission to take INSPIRATION from tower battles, because tds also was.
@@PenumbrasTDStds was based on tower battles whit the same enemies in the old old version but tds owner refused to give credits 🤓
Also that’s why tb owner doesn’t like below
@@bryanhernandez1073 TDS was a school project you know
0:51 wth did just flicked is this part of the video?
Dr xenos
Tds copy tdx?
Solar eclipse thumbnail:
Trapper is same like mine layer?
Btd6 does have it before tdx so does that mean tdx also copy it?
Consumable copy tdx
They already plan that since 2020 or 2021
Hi, I use a translator, but.
Yes, the trapper also has mines as in TDX and shiki as in BTD6
Rather, TDS took and combined the BTD6 and Minelayer spikes factory from TDH
TDX consumables may have been taken from there, but there is no nuclear missile in BTD6, for example, while in TDS it was added after TDX was added
About the plans of the TDS a lot of things planned, but also not implemented, and in the beginning it was literally TB 2.0 and continues to take out ideas such as the commander’s revork, do you care?
Consumables is a common idea in video game industry bruh. It's like TDS has Tank doesn't mean they copy T-90M or K2 black panther. Even other types of games like turn-based or RPG have them. Stop mentioning that monkey game before you turn into one🙏
@@skron4 TDS leaked consumables in 2020, alongside with powerups. The update got scrapped then a few years later TDX announces it. 30 minutes later TDS announces consumables again. They can't make a full nuke in 30 minutes. It's literally impossible unless 100 people worked on it.
I dont think u watched the vid
He did mention that tds added trapper it right after tdx did release the game/mine layer
Not that they cant have the same idea, but that tds did it weeks after tdx..
@@fiery1433 With your logic you can say that TDX copied BTD6.
Tds was so jealous that they began copying ideas from tdx
Ok tds is not copying tdx but even if it was I don’t care tds and the tdx community are at peace it was all fun and games and below and John are friends irl if John thought tds was copying him he would tell him to stop which he has not done due to the fact that tds just hasn’t copied tdx I love tdx but why you got to make this video about something that is not a big deal are you trying to cause drama cuz that’s what it feels like why do you care John does not care I know your just doing this for views look just don’t try and cause drama for no reason
If they were at peace these videos wouldn’t exist
john isnt friends with below anymore buddy
You defend TDS even though it's very clear that it is copying TDX
@@Coniser3 ok so tdx copied tds
@@Brazil0987 me when entire communities are fighting over common tower and feature concepts (Tdx fans dont know consumables were in tds since 2020)
TDS and TDX owners with each other: 😁😄😆
TDS and TDX fanbases with each other: 😡🤬🤬
I think everyone forgets that they are friends there is literally a John skin in TDS and the upgrades have John icons on them.
Bro post dr xenon 0.1s in 0:52
bro found it
the worst part about this is that the TDS devs are getting away with it
keyboard warrior at it's finist
Ngl it really doesn't matter, as long as you have fun
My only beef with Tds "Hardcore"
Ikr Im already quite good in both games I got all of the tds golden tower and hardcore tower and in tdx I already got all of the towers. I dont really care if they copying blah blah blah am just playing the game dude.
W take
saying the pw2 thumbnail doesnt count because its not facing directly forward is stupid,, by the same logic you could say tds didnt copy tdx's thumbnail bc the juggernaut is facing towards the left while the minigunner faces towards the right 😭
nah, the pw2 monster is in a completely different position, poor argument
@@MrGnomeX saying "poor argument" is actually crazy when they've done this exact style of thumbnail 5 times before the intermediate mode render 😭
@@Samiho you took a full bite of the bait 🗿
@@noobicusprime I wish it was bait they are 100% serious 😭
You people are so annoying always this game stole from this game! like stfu and just enjoy the games
I would but TDS blatantly plagiarizing both TB and TDX instead of trying to come up with there own idea's has destroyed TDS's balancing.
Consumables were probably the worst edition ever in TDS and its clear that they simply looked over at TDX and copied them instead of making something unique. Or how about TDS's commander rework which literally just turns commander into a 1to1 copy of TB with the APU ability.
As for TDX, GDI has publicly stated that the commander tower is purely an event tower which will be winnable when the TDX x TB collab kicks off.
Personally I wouldn't even be that mad if TDS actually added onto what TDX or TB made to create there own unique thing.
I should mention this comes from a person who loves both TDX and TDS, The recent 2 updates TDS has made with patient zero & consumables were by far one of the worst updates they could of made thus far. Hell I mean even the merc base is pretty stupid imo, like you cant convince me that TDS isnt copying TDX with the merc base.
John roblox used to and probably might still work on tds, also, tdx used assets like skipping waves, end wave money, and some more. If you don't know, John used to work as an admin in tds and made some of the most nostalgic trailers. If you also didn't know that John roblox created tdx then I'm pretty sure that it's not called "copying", it's called inspiration.
hey tds didnt copy tdx's abilities they literally have been working on the consumables for years they literally said that they were working on it for years
They have 10+ devs no way it took them years to make consumables 💀
The idea was there for years. It's only when tdx took a jab at it that they started caring bucko
Maybe they changed some ability’s once tdx came along then?
Based on the quality of the tds consumables, that did not take them years
@@nash9307They have like 36
Tdx also copied tank from fallen and speedy boss from molten
tds fan get the facts right challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
the nerd alerts are sounding
The useless comment alert is even louder
@@entity3null3 I think yours was also useless like mine
@@BackroomsTrappedForever Nah, I don’t think so, at least u admit that ur comment‘s useless..
@@entity3null3 yep austinsuns comment is more useless than yours
@@BackroomsTrappedForever ik 💀🙏
TDS is literally know as tower delay simulator, you're giving them a LOT of credit if you think they could add consumables in a week. My estimate is that they started working on them in 2019.
LOL
TDS = Tower Defense Stealing 🤣
lol
that's the most unfunniest thing i have ever heard.
My guy stole mom's phone.
Please, power it off and go back to others, they are learning how to divide
@@QQubssTheQ what are you even talking about
@@QQubssTheQ and you are learning english.
Its called competition. TDX Doesnt own the concepts to these towers, And we have had sneakpeaks of these towers and abilites before TDX added them. But in the end TDA did copy TDS at the start. Theyre different games now, but they did back then
Did you know that John hires people to get background info on tds updates and then makes them first so people will hate on tds
bro he does not 💀
below and john are still friends im sure about that and they probably talk about ideas for their games while having a normal talk, just ideas not concepts
You can't do that lmao kid
Nahh that’s crazy😭🙏🙏🙏🙏 bro that ain’t true bud bet u made that in ur mind in 5 sec ago go to bed lil Timmy
Bro thinking too much
TDS kids forget that TDX is run by John Roblox, a loyal person to the TDS community, has a skin, use to have a tower, and is the old voice actor for commander.
Indeed, they should be thankful to him.
It's mainly the tdx hooligans and tds gen alpha kids that brew up the war
Tbh the abilties of patient zero is similar to the plague doctor or revived plague doctor bc when he throws hes potions the towers it decrease the damage and firerate.
Why if ability same it is copy
Enemies debuffing towers has never been unique ever
Btw this game mode was teased in 2022 from tds and half the towers are copied strait from tds soooooo
@@ErractureGaming just because they have the same gun doesent mean their copy, like not only that but TB added them too, please put research
Proof that he is wrong. ua-cam.com/video/Yo2bI8U9epo/v-deo.htmlsi=QrjmlH74hrINhIJe
another copy is how they are giving the modes names of difficulties in TDS (intermediate, easy), like tdx, while before TDX came out it was original names based off of the enemies you face (normal, molten, fallen)
Grave Digger: What?
you mean they could be also based on the old names like easy turned to normal, normal went to molten, hard went to golden, and insane went to fallen, but now it makes sense why fallen would be hard now cause if they rename hardcore to insane then it makes sense.
Prove tdx fans are toxics:
Prove tds fans are toxic:
@@mikewiller7348this guy is proving that tdx fans ar toxic by saying it. Wow
Prove tds fans are toxic:
Proof that both tds and tdx fans are toxic:
Prove that we are all toxic
Tds tdx are friends tds owner is below and tdx is john john and below are good friend
We both copied BTD
"we"
@@emperormoist3851 I am both, we are one
It doesnt count
Since players want off roblox games for free :3
@@funidog3613 Exactly
now hear me out im pretty sure tds and tdx made a deal that tdx can be created with tds's permission BUT tds can have tdx's ideas since if tdx didnt have tds's permission tds can just take down tdx since it was created first and thats called copyright :D
Blud made tds kids mad
Tds and TDX are fine with eachother copying eachother btw lol so there’s no controversy about this it’s just the fans that thinks it’s “copying bad”
They both stole from BTD smh
the tdx community i litteraly just a pool of toxicity and hatred for one game in specific that im probably just gonna quit the game and focuse on tds, probubly a better use of my time than a game where the entire community calls a game a copy just for fun and disgueses it as "a calling out" TDX didnt invent nukes,airstrikes, and many other power ups plus they have a completly diffrent system of getting them and the do pretty much diffrent things apart from the nuke which they literaly couldnt make function diffrently or else it pretty much wouldnt be a nuke plus john worked in TDS before he even had the thought of TDX also polluted so your entire arguement is litteraly disproven in one comment so in short, no TDS is not copying TDX you just want attention from the TDS fanbase.
Tdx glazer☠️
fr fr
Little bro is glazing tea so hsrd
nah nah broksie... in all seriousness, these updates are a little too coincidental. like think about it... TDX got a cryo blaster, TDS got a cryo blaster shortly after. TDX added a new gamemode, TDS added a new gamemode after. TDX added a new summoner tower, TDS added a new summoning tower... and TDS is crumbling anyway with its monthly microtransactions
Nah bro the past few TDS updates had some correlation with tdx, Cryo blasted and Cryomancer, new TdX gamemode New TDS gamemode, Abilites in tdx abilities in tds, they are basically added in shit that tdx added, its was to coincidental for it to be not suspicious
@@Border_Hopprare the new upcoming updates also similar to tds?
Who cares who copies who? The features are fucking awesome and these games are fucking awesome.
Also tds new tower ui is copying Tdx ui with the green fading out corners 😕
TDX fans when they find out that another game has an UI with green outlines and a gradient
yea like the circle ui for towers were fine
why in hell would u make a new one?
@@XylapyMelody As a TDX AND TDS fan I don't glaze the game just much but UI is always pretty cool.
@@shadow_gaming20098 The ui was last reworked in 2022 or 2023, and it still looked outdated. Most people can agree that it needed a rework. I do agree that they should have kept the squares though.
@@grizzlykai8336 i mean can same but
why green? u could have choose blue cuz that's what tds's color is (well thats what i see it)
Are we going to talk about how the new TDS gamemode is called "Intermediate Mode", and there is a TDX gamemode named the exact same thing that came about before. Oh and don't even get me started on the Brawler. The SECOND the Smasher was revealed for TDX, mfing TDS goes and makes a new melee tower. Coincidence? I think not.
Bro brawler was leaked years ago but tds released it a while after the leak
Btw when cryo ranger was released it was a copy of freezer rework
Know what im not arguing lets just say there both good games and we should just have fun
We don't call this copying we call this inspired
TDX was made in 2022💀
Tds was made in 2019😊
They are copying each other 😂 and John is just laughing at this cause he is a dev of both😂😂😂😂😂😂
We just gonna ignore bro's god tier gameplay in the background 😭🙏
Na i dont defending im gona say something simple marketing and we dont care so any tds fan feel free to like or dislike just remember its how the world work😂
Fun fact, the items abilities in both games are based off of Bloons tower defence 6 (i think that’s the name) which has been around longer than both
Edit: I play both
John works at Tdx polluted waste land might be made by john you know
Stop the beef please i just wana grind TDX in peace :(
ITD SATIRE
If they add a medic rework after the tdx medic is released then something is def going on.
TDS didn't copy they already announced about consumables back on 2021 so stop yapping about TDS copy tdx
Tdx: exit
Tds: finally,some good fucking food
the tds created so nervous than tdx because tds made in 2019 but tdx made in 2022
Tdx was made in 2023
@@trungkien8726 tdx was made in 2022 before the release
tds copied tower battles in evry way bro
@@Eddie4evr that was 4 years ago bro
@@BackroomsTrappedForever it’s not tho the new commander rework completely copied tb again
everybody busy talking about who copied who nobody noticed 0:52 jumpscare...
Tds was doing this type of thumbnails for long time and the consumables was invented by Btd6 and also TDX copied mortar from Btd6 but my opinion is that Tdx and Tds can copy each other because it makes bhot games have more stuff to unlock, new features and this makes them even more fun to play
This video is clear rage bait, I’m not gonna have a full on argument with rage bait as I’m actually smart unlike most of these comments. If you’re gonna rage bait make it less obvious
Proof that he is wrong. ua-cam.com/video/Yo2bI8U9epo/v-deo.htmlsi=QrjmlH74hrINhIJe
If i had a nickel for every time a guys said they both copied tb id have 2 nickels i know its not alot but its weird it happened twice
That was my debait on why you can't say tdx is a saint you say tds copy then you whip out tb, bd, and many other games before tdx which had there ideas shown
tb there was tower blitz
this has gotta be satire bro 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
True fact: it isn’t copying if you make it in your own way, tdx has 11 power ups as tds has 13 I think, and tds made it in there own way
execution matters when taking something for yourself. the tower ideas may be similar, but they can have their own identity. minigunner and juggernaut have the same concept yet they are different in their own ways.
people who hate tds and play tdx:🌚
people who hate tdx and play tds:🌚
people who just enjoys both:🗿
Bro the start of the TDX is literally just TDS
Finally someone who knows that TDS copied stuff from TDX 🗿😎👍
Now this HAS to be bait. Don't feed the trolls guys
They aren’t copying each other John and below are sharing ideas for their own games so that they can make their own ideas you people are the reason why the community are so against each other it’s just two different games deal with it and besides it’s hard for people to make “original ideas” when it’s obviously taken by some other game theirs a difference between inspiration and copying
Edit:I didn’t even see the comment saying this video was mostly rage bait sorry💀
They both coppied btd6 spike factory
Ok i'm gonna be honest these types of video are getting annoying like yeah they're all satire but this is getting ridiculous
(Plus they're not even comparable in the slightest)
Honestly people are complaining about this way too much, like sure some things are copied(mostly ideas and concepts), where is the problem?
Tdx players not trying to get in there make it about themselves and comparing to Tds (Impossible)🤯🤯🤯