John Lovell of The Warrior Poet Society talks about Pre Fight Indicators

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024

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  • @Gweidemann
    @Gweidemann 4 роки тому +2

    Low rent/high crime areas, rotting out inner city areas, rundown trailer parks, ghettos, poor neighborhoods, etc., I've in and around these type of neighborhoods for a long time. • I've organized resident's meetings on crime prevention, and helped neighborhood associations with security measures for safety purposes to benefit neighbors...I've been a member of Fraternal Order of Police and Law Enforcement Alliance of America; and I'm invited to become a member of Oath Keepers. • Be sober. Be strong. Be vigilant.• Be blessed Warrior Poet Society.

  • @fsmoura
    @fsmoura 5 років тому +85

    Forgot the biggest indicator of them all: *"Being in Brazil."*

    • @Adam.Rushing
      @Adam.Rushing 5 років тому +2

      someone else subscribes to ASP?

    • @828enigma6
      @828enigma6 5 років тому +3

      Or in Chicongo or similar blue controlled big cities.

  • @nunya453
    @nunya453 4 роки тому +1

    Please keep these coming! Love the “what if’s” too!

  • @AmericanMinuteman95
    @AmericanMinuteman95 5 років тому +30

    Great to see John on trigger time.

  • @ScurvyDog42
    @ScurvyDog42 5 років тому +36

    I love the cameo appearance by Craig. He looks shady as hell. Good stuff.

    • @SundownTE
      @SundownTE 5 років тому +2

      That's his natural state

    • @ScurvyDog42
      @ScurvyDog42 5 років тому +1

      SundownTE hahaha, true!

  • @bobbieschroder6231
    @bobbieschroder6231 4 роки тому +1

    I'm a woman, but I _really_ appreciate this info. Honestly, it all boils down to good intuition and honed instincts. Even as a teenager visiting Beverly Hills, California, I could have gotten killed by an otherwise innocuous-looking nerdy-type guy. But I was wary enough to notice how he was trying to guide me to walk into a secluded area. As he talked, his voice sounded soft, but nervous and rushed. As he spoke, I noticed that he, just for a moment, fidgeted with some long scissors that were hidden in his front-shirt pocket.
    Huge light bulbs began blasting off in my mind. I quickly but very gracefully edged myself away from him with tactful words (I didn't want to incite anger from him and cause him to grab me, or let him know that I suspected anything), and I was able to get back out onto the open city sidewalk and get clear from him. That was the last time I ever went back to Beverly Hills.
    BTW, after all these years, I've never told anyone about this. This is the very first time I've ever mentioned it to anyone...

  • @EngNerdGMN
    @EngNerdGMN 5 років тому +13

    More good insight from John Lovell. *Yay for that!*

  • @JonMarvel
    @JonMarvel 5 років тому +13

    Anything John is in is worth watching. Great info, communicated very effectively. Thanks guys!

  • @letsgobrandon1663
    @letsgobrandon1663 5 років тому +30

    John 'Cuz I Like To Party' Lovell is the Man!

  • @tripleog9557
    @tripleog9557 5 років тому +7

    I love that John... “it’s about fast seeing and fast thinking “.... more than always fast shooting

  • @deputyprepper4931
    @deputyprepper4931 5 років тому +14

    I am a LEO and they teach a similar list of indicators in the academy. It's called street survival.

  • @rbrtck
    @rbrtck 5 років тому +2

    True story here. My family and I were walking through a parking lot to our car, which was parked at a pretty far distance, and I saw this young guy on the right who had apparently been talking on the phone for a while, although in the time I observed him (waiting for my family to catch up with me) he never spoke a word. I saw how he scanned large groups of people walking by, but made no move. By the time my family were about to walk by him, however, we were a small isolated group, so I watched him with my peripheral vision the whole time, dropping back and turning my head slightly to keep him in view. Soon after we passed him, he suddenly put away his phone and started to stride briskly and with purpose in our direction, whereupon I immediately turned toward him and pretended to draw a weapon out of my pocket (crossing my left hand over to make it obvious and recognizable). Almost as soon as I moved, he turned around and strolled casually (almost too casually) back to his original spot (leaning against a car), took out his phone, and pretended to be on a phone call once again. He never looked up at me, as far as I could tell, and I kept watching him until we got to our car.
    To this day, I wonder what would have happened if I hadn't been so alert. I was completely unarmed because we were just leaving a place that did not allow weapons. In retrospect, we should have waited for another large group of people to leave with so that we could have had safety in numbers, but I really didn't think the guy was a likely threat, given his age and his non-hardened looks (neither hard nor soft, just a regular young adult), and of course I didn't want to alarm my family for what would probably be no reason. I did see fit to watch the guy, though, which I do a lot. And my family thinks it's amusing and a little too obvious how I approach and check blind corners. :)

    • @rbrtck
      @rbrtck 5 років тому +1

      @Brad Roberts Yes, they have metal detectors, and yes, it's worth the normally very small risk that something like this would ever happen. In the future, I'll take additional steps to avoid vulnerability, though, such as joining larger groups when it is advantageous to do so. That's a good idea whether or not I happen to be armed, because armed conflict is, of course, always the worst-case, last-resort scenario (short of simply being robbed and possibly killed). In addition to always being armed if possible, another good rule to follow is to not do anything or go anywhere when armed that you wouldn't when unarmed (unless you're a soldier or a cop on duty who has to, of course).

  • @NHlocal
    @NHlocal 5 років тому +14

    "The good guy scan.....I see you, I'm carrying guns too." Yay for that! ;~)

  • @pendragonparties4959
    @pendragonparties4959 5 років тому +3

    Thankyou for sharing and inspiring us all, preaching to the choir, but I love the song, train hard and train smart

  • @rlr496
    @rlr496 5 років тому +3

    Thank you for making these videos John they help to think outside the box.

  • @nmr6988
    @nmr6988 5 років тому +2

    I love hearing about and learning from your awareness tips and recognition of threat indicators. John Lovell is a fantastic communicator, and Craig and the other gentleman made fantastic bad guys. I thank you all.

  • @alexgonzalezMI
    @alexgonzalezMI 5 років тому +3

    We just did a whole course on pre assault indicators in our in service training this weekend. Good stuff, very important!

  • @thomasnugent3836
    @thomasnugent3836 Рік тому

    Very good. Thank you very much

  • @Battlefieldtripshow
    @Battlefieldtripshow 5 років тому +2

    surprise! it's Craig Douglas! wouldn't wanna catch him glaring at me like that... great content as always.

  • @steveg3593
    @steveg3593 5 років тому +1

    Why would someone give thumbs down on these high quality videos? These aren't easy to make and they have a high value to almost everyone. On top of that, the cost to view is $0!!! That's a dick-move people...

  • @sdlonewolf
    @sdlonewolf 5 років тому +2

    They will also size you up looking you up and down! I have had it happen as a cop for 19 years and off duty when they did not know I was a cop. It will put you in alert mode quickly.

  • @daviddale3624
    @daviddale3624 5 років тому +10

    Yeah, I saw Craig Douglas looking at me over his cell phone....RUN!

  • @bryanfaulkenburg462
    @bryanfaulkenburg462 5 років тому +2

    Love Trigger Time TV . Favorite Outdoor Channel show . But usually I see these segments on UA-cam after I see them on tv . Please tell me my DVR hasn't let me down and not recorded on of my favorite shows . FYI John Lovell is a great choice for content . I really enjoyed John McPhee , Craig Douglas , and Frank Proctor . Keep up the great job guys .

  • @bquade70
    @bquade70 5 років тому +1

    Guys awesome, John Lovell..... hit up his you tube channel if you haven't yet..
    Much to learn!

    • @bquade70
      @bquade70 5 років тому

      No problem Mr Lovell. 👍

  • @rkba4923
    @rkba4923 5 років тому

    Geeezzz, John, your background was absolutely electrifying!

  • @steventerrell506
    @steventerrell506 5 років тому +1

    I enjoyed this video so ...yay for that;

  • @Bob-vc5yi
    @Bob-vc5yi 5 років тому +7

    Read Gavin De Becker- The Gift of Fear or Patrick Van Horne- Left of Bang.
    Good video

    • @Adam.Rushing
      @Adam.Rushing 5 років тому +1

      Thank you...I'll add them to my wish list! Have you read Dave Grossman's On Killing? Worth the read. Dry, but very informative.

  • @rangermcq6281
    @rangermcq6281 5 років тому

    Criminal Planning Cycle.... ?
    We just used to call it Casing Their Mark back when I was on the job.
    Great video. Thanks!

  • @ianscortegagna6943
    @ianscortegagna6943 5 років тому

    ... all day long.. every day.. here in Brazil. Jhon L. And Crag D. .. 👏👏

  • @DeeMoback
    @DeeMoback 5 років тому +3

    "the art of non-fighting" ..... great read from way back

  • @spetersen634
    @spetersen634 5 років тому +1

    Love me some Lovell!

  • @lukepippin4781
    @lukepippin4781 5 років тому +1

    I can spot them... problem is I also do a lot of them haha. I have minor Aspergers, so it makes the social world a difficult place for me. I’m full of social anomalies. I scan, but if I meet someone’s eyes, I have to look away cause it’s a massive anxiety trigger. People with Aspergers also fidget with things a lot, clench their fits and so on. We’re not a threat, in fact we’re often very compassionate people (we don’t express it well, so people often think we don’t care) which is why I carry, to protect the people around me. But these things make it difficult to spot a threat sometimes, just cause it seems like everyone is watching me... cause I look like a threat I guess.
    Anyway, just something interesting to throw out there. I suppose I should be glad people are paying enough attention to pick up on what I do.

  • @armenchuck
    @armenchuck 5 років тому

    Food for thought, in Atlanta Georgia you just described text book adult ADHD.

  • @SundownTE
    @SundownTE 5 років тому +4

    lmaooooo Craig suddenly showing up looking suspicious as hell, I see you boss

  • @TheDirtFighter
    @TheDirtFighter 5 років тому +4

    What if it's a politician opening their mouth to speak??? Tackle on sight??? I see that as a major threat indicator and many many people are about to be affected. :)

  • @jameshull5274
    @jameshull5274 5 років тому

    Super fun and educational!

  • @ohionights2171
    @ohionights2171 5 років тому +1

    Good lesson.

  • @RICK-te3qh
    @RICK-te3qh 5 років тому

    No joke. This is deadly accurate. LE take note. I'm proof.. still here because I by fluke paid attention during training and I'm still here after the shoot. Mr.John shoot me a personal email so I can share my BS for training and sheepdog sharing purposes.

  • @formandalore918
    @formandalore918 5 років тому

    2:33 VILLAIN! 👊🔫 😂

  • @drome010381
    @drome010381 3 роки тому +1

    I think you missed the unarmed observer, who is highly aware but admittedly helpless. I believe their indicators can be highly misconstrued.

  • @henry06x
    @henry06x 5 років тому

    Umm crap.... I do a handful of this but it’s more just social awkwardness lol. Love having my hoodie up, walk looking down a lot, and fidget with stuff constantly or play with my phone while waiting in line. And I concealed carry. If I’m ever in a store with John he’s gonna tackle me!

  • @scottyost6246
    @scottyost6246 5 років тому

    Yea for John!

  • @BigChiefTomTom53
    @BigChiefTomTom53 5 років тому +1

    John, "leave the party & go in the garage?" Was someone watching "SCREAM?!"

  • @Crazy_boots
    @Crazy_boots 5 років тому +1

    Well I just found out that when I'm just acting normal I'm the biggest indication of a threat in the room. I literally perform every one of these queue's everyday just grabbing my energy drink from a gas station in the morning everyday while open carrying.

  • @mdnghtrdr79
    @mdnghtrdr79 5 років тому

    It would save me a lot of talk to just show this video in class

  • @tatankat5839
    @tatankat5839 5 років тому +2

    What if the person has realtor eyes? Shoot on sight? Hahajk
    Thanks for the tips Lovell!!

  • @SwordFighterPKN
    @SwordFighterPKN 5 років тому +1

    What about good guys that use the bad guy scan?

  • @willglo
    @willglo 5 років тому +4

    Also, don't judge a book by its cover!... Bad guys don't always "look like" bad guys.
    A bad guy can also be clean-cut, wearing a 3-piece suit!... BE AWARE & ALERT!

    • @cd4playa1245
      @cd4playa1245 5 років тому +1

      Reservoir Dogs

    • @willglo
      @willglo 5 років тому

      @@cd4playa1245 LOL!... Yes, exactly!

    • @SuperUnemployable
      @SuperUnemployable 5 років тому

      I wish I could like this multiple times. Seasoned criminals dont give off these tells

  • @carl-ok9gn
    @carl-ok9gn 5 років тому +3

    as with all profiling and psychology, this is not always true. someone call have all or none of the indicators and attack or not. this only describes nervous behavior, not necessarily aggressive or experienced behavior and even then still isn't accurate. take it with a grain of salt. the most valuable thing he alluded to is the gut feeling. most of the time you'll subconsciously know of a threat before you cognitively recognize it. if you feel it's wrong, it is.

    • @michaelfranciotti3900
      @michaelfranciotti3900 5 років тому +1

      I just recently discovered Active Self Protection on UA-cam. They show and analyze footage of real violent encounters. I've only been watching since yesterday but I've already watched well over a dozen videos. Almost all bad guys displayed multiple threat indicators. I will partly agree with you that you may get a false positive or a successful covert/surprise attack, but they seem to be the exception by far. And while I do agree that one should trust their gut, I also think threat indicators shouldn't be ignored.

    • @carl-ok9gn
      @carl-ok9gn 5 років тому

      @@michaelfranciotti3900 find the ones where no indication was given. frankly, this video gives people a sense that if they dont observe warning signs then nothing is wrong. that's the point i'm making.

  • @shanetconnor
    @shanetconnor 5 років тому

    “Villain!!!” Lol

  • @kevinroberts9580
    @kevinroberts9580 5 років тому +4

    That guy in the tan shirt looks really really Shifty, has crazy eyes🤣😂😁

  • @punker6506
    @punker6506 5 років тому

    Oh man. Im a mechanic. My hands hurt. I often flex and stretch them when standing idle.

  • @mikethomas5412
    @mikethomas5412 5 років тому +2

    Good words. That's some shady looking folks in the video 😁

  • @DeCavalcante
    @DeCavalcante 5 років тому +1

    Johns really cool but he reminds me of those 90s-00s health/safety videos we watched in school.

  • @GIO_RUBBLE
    @GIO_RUBBLE 5 років тому

    "My Spider-Sense is tingling"

  • @Stonewallx39
    @Stonewallx39 5 років тому

    Touching the face, blading a weapon away, hand hovering over/rubbing a concealed weapon (pocket, waist band).

  • @elibazz5657
    @elibazz5657 5 років тому

    "VILLAIN"! 😆

  • @ruzzellp
    @ruzzellp 5 років тому

    JL is Batman

  • @tywinlannister6118
    @tywinlannister6118 5 років тому

    I'm not a bad guy but I'm really socially awkward...

  • @SmokeDogNY420
    @SmokeDogNY420 5 років тому

    3:14 WHAT IF I NORMALLY LOOK LIKE THAT

  • @obliqueapplications8881
    @obliqueapplications8881 5 років тому

    Thanks John. Now go make a PragerU video

  • @LouieDiNicola
    @LouieDiNicola 5 років тому

    Man, I dunno. That guy in the yellow shirt looked shady af 😉

  • @eliseobenitez1217
    @eliseobenitez1217 9 місяців тому

    When does your level of awareness and judgment become paranoia and false awareness labeling.

  • @dknollRX7
    @dknollRX7 5 років тому +1

    That’s one way to stop the fidget spinner fad...

  • @lapinrigolo
    @lapinrigolo 5 років тому

    Clichés ahoy.