This Is Not This Heat, full set live Barcelona 01-06-2017, Primavera Sound Forum
Вставка
- Опубліковано 8 жов 2024
- 0:00 - TestCard 0:33 - Horizontal Hold 6:51 - Twilight Furniture 11:55 - The Fall of Saigon 16:17 - Cenotaph 23:03 - SPQR 26:20 - A New Kind of Water 32:02 - Paper Hats 37:09 - Makeshift Swahili 40:52 - rimp ramp romp 41:45 - Sleep 44:06 - 24 Track Loop 47:30 - Health and Efficiency
thisheat.bandc...
www.primaveras...
Sleep has taken on such a different meaning so many years later. On Deceit, it sounded like some sort of terrifying forced hypnosis, a sort of illusion or a trap created by our own minds and imprisoned by the very same. But so many years later, it sounds hopeful, like a lullaby. After you’ve lived this much life, I would assume that the prospect of a sort of eternal, deluded slumber would sound peaceful.
It always sounded like a lullaby to me.
Sleep is one of those songs where what happens after it on the album impacts how you feel about it. When I first heard it it sounded like a lullaby but in the context of the full record I definitely understand the hypnosis vibe.
@@ericmsandovalit was written when the guy was 12 I think, also it always gave me vivid images of pending nuclear annihilation and international suffering.
Saw This Heat supporting The Pop Group in about 1987 - both brilliant bands. This is superb.
That sounds mind blowing omg. I love both bands so much. Them two and also PiL and Birthday Party and Asylum Party are some of the best bands ever.
must have been earlier though... or it was a follow up project, they broke up in 82
It would have been Camberwell Now because This Heat ended in 1982. 🙂
One of the bands that has given me the biggest sense of fear ever. RIP Gareth Williams.
In spite of not being This Heat, they manage to do a pretty solid imitation! Crazy this is late 70s music and still manages to sound fresh and innovative today.
well Charles is there and he is the key member
Charles Hayward and Charles Bullen. They used the name "This Is Not This Heat" because the third member, Gareth Williams died in 2001.
Which ones are Hayward and Bullen?
@@modifiedcontent Hayward is the drummer, Bullen is the bearded guitarist!
That's not Crazy but it shows how unique they are ;-)
0:00 - TestCard
0:33 - Horizontal Hold
6:51 - Twilight Furniture
11:55 - The Fall of Saigon
16:17 - Cenotaph
23:03 - SPQR
26:20 - A New Kind of Water
32:02 - Paper Hats
37:09 - Makeshift Swahili
41:45 - Sleep
44:06 - 24 Track Loop
47:30 - Health and Efficiency
thanks!!!!! updating
clearly this is not this heat! this is wonderful!
Would have loved to see this.
tyou have done a great service in immortalizing this performance my friend.
That's the purpose, helping not to forget such great things, helping other people to know how it was, helping musicians indirectly... positive sinergies.
i salute you amigo...
rimp ramp romp reminds me of Magma when Jannick Top was bassist. I see some comments below having a go at the band for messing up a few songs. Do you understand how difficult it is to replicate that sound live? These guys were never singers, it was never about that! As for 'A New Kind of Water' - I think it sounds (singing wise) excellent.... even more desperate than it did on Deceit. Also - This Heat are not your typical Post Punk band... they started before punk music and were more influenced by Faust and the more avant side of Zappa than The Sex Pistols et al. I would venture to state that Blue/Yellow is as far removed from punk as any decent album at that particular time could be. I always give this band the accolade of 'inventing' Post Punk before punk was even a certainty, which, of course, is completely paradoxical...but then again, so are This Heat
And thanks for the excellent upload brother. much love and respect!
this heat... world's best (only) post-punk-pre-punk band.
Pere Ubu were another band who were making post-punk before punk even existed.
I agree, in part, but there were a handful of others active in, or before, the "Punk Era" that were lumped in as Punk artists whilst actually making much more sense as Post Punk artists.
Inclusive of This Heat then, there was also: Cabaret Voltaire, Throbbing Gristle, Suicide, The Residents, Devo, Wire, Pere Ubu, Talking Heads, Subway Sect, The Monochrome Set and Television: all disparate in approach but stylistically fitting more neatly as Post Punk artists than Punk per-se.
I think I'm right in saying that both The Residents and Throbbing Gristle had, in one form or other, been around since the late 60s / early 70s, whereas, Cabaret Voltaire, Devo, Suicide and Pere Ubu were, themselves, around quite a few years prior to 1976 with Television, Wire and Talking Heads forming around the 1975 mark.
I think Subway Sect formed in early 1976 and whereas the Monochrome Set did come after the formation of This Heat, It wasn't by much.
Indeed, Siouxsie And The Banshees also commenced in 1976 as did The Slits whilst Magazine and Durutti Column arrived in early 1977 and all of these bands were in reality Post Punk in approach.
And, what about The Pop Group, The Fall, The Birthday Party and Gang Of Four? Weren't they all around by early 77 as well?
The point is that nothing exists in a vacuum. Very few... if any.... stylistic changes in the arts happen by being originated by one artist alone. It's something in the cultural air than produces genre shifts which is why you invariably get at least a handful of artists generating new but, within reason, similar shifts at relatively the same moment even when such artists are completely unaware of each other's existence.
If you think about it, it has to be this way: if no-one at all had been thinking along the lines of This Heat within the period they formed then there would have been no audience. No audience means no recording contract or records. No records: we would never had heard of them.
Given that we obviously have heard of them we can reverse the logic: we've heard of them because they released records. They released records because they had a record contract. They had a record contract because they had an audience. They had an audience because the audience liked the band's music. They liked the band's music because they were attracted to the band's approach to making music. They were attracted to the band's approach because they were thinking along similar lines.
If you allow this rationale and then accept that at least a handful of the audience members at any given gig were themselves musicians then, given my definition, - that a band's audience is aesthetically thinking along similar lines to the band themselves, - we can also see that If a musician does go to see such a band as This Heat they probably have - or are planning to form - their own bands structured along similar aesthetic lines (I find it unlikely that a guitarist interested in going to see This Heat would be likely planning to form a band along the lines of, say, AC/DC, after all!).
This is how genres evolve.
Accepted, that many bands can be highly original and still only ever achieve a small or "cult" audience but this is largely irrelevant to my argument. Any band that has ever existed and ends up as being known to posterity - by no matter how relatively few people - must have had an audience in the initial in order for them to sign a record contract and release records for us to hear. On whatever scale, they must have been popular and, if the band wants to have an audience come and see them more than once (or, to even stay through a gig's entirety in the first place) then, they needed to have been intelligible and accessible to that audience in the initial. Popularity, intelligibility and accessibility is not arrived at by being completely contrary to the tastes, and, therefore, ideas, of the audience the band had stood before them but by being in sync with the audience they have before them.
N.B: I'm not claiming that every band who ever trod the boards planned to tailor themselves to fit an audience in order obtain or even keep such an audience. No. What I am claiming is that a band such as This Heat only managed to exist and continue (at no matter how paltry a level) in their original incarnation and then, somehow, end up as still being of interest 40 odd years later because they had, to lesser or greater degree an audience and that any band's audience must be in aesthetic and intellectual sync with the band in order to find said band of interest.
With a band such as This Heat, I imagine this sync with an audience was by luck but also by reason of their sound being something that already existed (or was wanting) in the cultural "air".
@@beefheart1410 you didnt have to write an essay bud
Just re-listened to this set on really good headphones. Totally worth it! Love the double-punch of the insane guitar solo followed by Charles Bullen's guitar solo in Horizontal Hold. Great camerawork.
Thank you. I wish I had seen them in a regular/smaller venue. But for a festival, it was a very good gig.
dude with the fender jaguar looks like thurston moore lol
James Sedwards. In fact he plays in Thurston Moore Group. Lol.
I love this band.
fantastic concert!! the old magic, here and there. incredibly intense band. hearttearing.
sonho realizado poder ver isso
what an amazing band!!! rly love this set. but imagine how they managed to play the same music live with only 3(4) persons on the stage!
It was 3 until Gareth died.
Thank you for this video !
Thats Charles on drums he's just older....
Thanks for 'this heat' El Arranzio sure looks/sounds great,wished to have been there.
alexis'taylor from hot ship in there in keyboards. massive
just spotted him too
thank you sooooo much for filming and sharing this.
thanks a lot. a masterpiece.
It is a little bit dated, but STILL magic. I saw them 1980 in Krefeld, Germany. After the show the world wasn`t the same. It was mindblowing.
I will never never sell all the records and the memories
13 jahre bevor ich gerade mal geboren wurde... Viele hätten ja sehr ambitionierte politische ziele, würden sie eine Zeitmaschine besitzen... Ich glaube ich würde mein restliches leben in obskuren clubs in den späten sibzigern und frühen 80ern verbringen und noch obskureren bands zuhören
what do you mean dated? they were WAY ahead of their time, they still are now
I saw them at VERA in Groningen in 1982. Impressive. But I lost the records when my cellar got flooded with some dirty kind of water
thanks for sharing this heat with us
javier bardem on guitar?
First tune could very easily be an out-take from 'Get Up With It' by Miles Davis
Jamie Davis my thoughts were instantly Dark Magus from just horizontal hold’s clarinet wah alone!
iirc, some of the members are former Jazz musicians
@Newfoundland Labradexit Eh?
Charles Hayward was on Steve Davis (yes THAT steve davis) radooshow and played something off that album, he claimed they heard it months after recording horizontal hold and were blown away
There's a reason why the album On the Corner by Miles Davis is said to have helped inspire some elements of Post-Punk for sure.
thank you so much!
Fantastic!
is charles bullen like..sick? or is that just his look?
is that not thurston moore's guitarist for his new act? look crazy alike.
Yes. It is.
@@ElArranzio haha how do u know. Do u know about him?
@@Tandle779 He's James Sedwards
Still better than 90% of all music being made today. Amazing.
OMG. Amazing.
2 drum sets ! rrrhhhhhaaaaah
Me parece excelente esta canción !!!
Wow!
What was the line-up? I seem to recognize familiar faces...
Oh shit they didn't let them finish
what do you guys think about Yoko Ono?
i love her music
Big fan of the first two, Plastic Ono Band and Fly
I like her very much.
Pretty cool to hear them mess up A New Kind of Water.
Mess up? Seemed p flawless to me
@@workrelated2613 31:30 a bit of a hiccup with the ending. Still super dope the whole thing gives me chills.
Ceci n'est pas This Heat 😉
Anton Chigurh on the jag
Lolz
Deceit=Tis Heat!!
Oh This Heat is so amazing! Here's a This Heat Playlist - ua-cam.com/play/PLwjAApJvpclmXPNrTGAAAld-OPcVE3U8l.html
Was there some aversion to shooting more Charles B in favor of the girl and Shaggy Rogers?
mccabbq they were easier to frame. I don’t look much the screen. Subconscient.
Almost certain that's his daughter
@@alvareo92 - It is. 🙂
Was There
3:00
charlie the u unicorn
clear filming but it don't have a clue ...
frontman going for the “Homeless Bin Laden” look
Touring as a band has a lot in common with homelessness.
one day the hipsters are gonna realise that their idols are false and they will start listening to Nu-metal again.
The hardcore band Vein and also Code Orange are bringing it back but in a good way. They are taking the best elements from the actual Nu-Metal sound and incorporating it wisely.
Am I mistaken or can't anybody in this band really sing ? I've listened to all kinds of post punk but this sounds slightly off.
Doesn't sound pretty at all, but this adds the apocalyptic appeal to me. Their songs would sound off to me with "proper" singing. And nope I really say they are different compared to most other post-punk bands, and the label post-punk doesnt describe This Heat well at all.
it is only with hindsight that This Heat were labelled Post Punk. Most of Blue-Yellow was recorded just as punk was breaking and was more influenced by bands such as Faust's DIY ethic rather than punk
Yeah, I can't ever listen to anyone who isn't Rada trained.
if you were familiar with This Heat then this wouldn't be a shock
Can anybody in any punk punk band **really** sing? no. A moot observation. technical proficiency doesnt equate to intended expression.. There is a vision being serviced here. This is the point
This indeed is not This Heat. A sad attempt to revive the magic, tragically failed by a bad live performance with hired musicians, it seems.
Je weet niet waar je het over hebt
this sucks live
Jesse No
so do you
It really doesn't