I think Astoria represents something quite odd in the history of Oregon, and, the US in general. Somehow its both a story of unfathomable Boom-Bust cycles While also being a tale long cherished of subtle perseverance. Its rare to find both in one place. And yet, here we find Astoria. What was once touted (by myself included as a kid) as the New York of The West, is today maybe Oregon's most historied, town. A place that has lived its life in the lime light for nearly a century and a half, and today finds itself quite happily as little more than a seaside town at the end of some of the finest roads (and The finest river) one could hope to travel. Somewhere between the past and the present, the world forgot about Astoria and her stories. From the wood that built the world, to the fish that fed it, the port that sent it all out, and took very little in. The world might have, at least for a time, forgotten Astoria. But The Astorians never did. And damn well they never shall
There's no we here, not French or Spanish. I think racism may have originated from tree farmers in that area of the Astoria peninsula. But it is still propagated at a level where I have a hard profile of tribal alignment with extremists in that area. From past experience they will try to smear you in every way possible out there.
@@SuperNoncents I was told by an Astorian resident that in the case of a tsunami they have a hill that they intend to climb. And it was suggested it was safe from the tsunami. They seem to demand their story. And they always interject that they were heroes. Like with the story of the fire. I would think it was the 1830s that the industrial fire took place. Because they had plenty of explosive material in storage. Maybe the detonation did block the fire or possibly it sucked enough air out for the fire to collapse. There was just no way they would have been able to act in front of a fire like that. You see the heat would be far too intense. Astoria is a daycare for trustafarians, they are too old to demand a story be read. It's not the fairy tale they promote. Somehow with the people Astoria attract there absolutely must be something pagan or paranormal that would compete with either the Heroin high or the coke high, and I mean the injected high. You probably have heard of the prison gang termed Supreme White Power? SWP is the tattoo they receive when certain orders are followed. Then the person would receive protection from other prison gangs. Astoria has attracted SWP gang members in the past. And I met one SWP member that had lived in Astoria and he loved it there. That's the comfort zone out in Astoria. It's a pagan free ride zone of wannabe white supremacists.
@@saltydog-mv4ij Mainly I say the story of Astoria is all a cover story. I would think that the real story would include war crimes. That's why the town of Astoria attracts empty soul free riders of the euphio machine. I don't need to go there. If you need me to say something good about Astoria I would say the lot spacing is good. The old houses are nice but they have nothing to do with Victorian houses builders or the style of British Columbia. And further I say the best houses would have been constructed from 1830 to 1840 and if you want proof you need to look in the construction of the foundation. But also there would be too much destruction if someone did prove the date on a historical building. Personally I would have the state buy all of Astoria and move the citizens all up to safety in higher elevations. As well all the historical buildings should be available to view and learn of in a paid guided tour.
I'm fortunate to be able to reside here. I absolutely love this town. If you get a chance to come visit in the summer, take a walk around town and keep an eye out for a stashed painted sand dollar. I find the sand dollars on Sunset Beach just 7 miles south down 101 and paint them then stash them around town. LM Sand dollars.. .. I hope you come and find one 😊
One of our favorite places to visit. So much to do and see in the area. Anyone venturing to the west coast must come and spend some time here along with Seaside in Oregon and Long Beach in Washington. You will never regret it.
My father was in the navy during WW 2. At the end of the war, ships from the Pacific theater came into the U.S. Pacific ports for repairs. The ships were lined up from Astoria to Portland, waiting their turns for repairs, so my father was able to get off the ship in Astoria many times, then he was discharged when they got to Portland and he went straight back to Astoria, where he met my mother, who was in a nursing program at the large hospital there. They gt married and moved to California, where they live for the restvof their long lives.
The hospital was St. Mary (commonly called St. Mary’s) where my mother trained during the war. They may have known each other. An interesting article on the nursing school was published by the Clatsop County Historical Society several years ago.
Why because they walk on eggshells for you? Or because there is no consequence for your constant belittling? I already know the beach community cannot be decent. They can't even respect working there temporarily. Astoria is a fake wannabe racial hood of cult followers. So are Netarts or Tillamook. They are fake and they are cowards. And there is no real work ethic whatsoever. They just want to work the system out there. And they will tell a lie about heritage to work the system. Working the system is all that is in their hearts out there at the beach. They all lie and I'll fight any of them. Mainly I offer to box anyone from the beach of Oregon. Matching head gear and gloves. I'm calling every inhabitant of the Oregon coast a coward. Cowards that will never fight but only taunt.
Joined the Navy in '74 in FL. , active duty on the USS Rogers DD-876 in Portland 1/75 got off the ship in '79. We spent every year a week in Astoria and many stops for a day over the years. After I got out I stayed in Oregon for over 30+ years.
You were very fortunate. I was on 876 for a better part of 4 years. All in San Diego and Westpacs. I'm from Salem and would have loved to have been homeported there.
I attended the Job Corp at Tongue Point in Astoria Oregon in the late 1970’s. I was 16 and had just been emancipated. It was formerly a Naval Base, what a gorgeous location. I wish I’d not been such a troubled child and enjoyed it more. Even still, I knew I’d been given an amazing opportunity to live in a spectacular place. Wish I’d stayed there.
Stella, good on you for appreciating what you had in Astoria. I hope you can go back to visit it. I took a troubled (and abused) teenager into my home (more than once). Her dad took her after a number of months from my home in Coos Bay. When she finished high school, she was put in the job corps, which she got kicked out of. Many years later, she and my daughter are still friends, and have taken care of one another's kids. My daughter has done very well for herself, and has helped her friend along the way. Her friend didn't always make good life choices, but has persevered and her kids are mostly raised. Does she wish she had made better choice. Yes! But considering how much she went through as a child, I think she has done pretty well! That same sentiment likely applies to you also.
I went to job corps between waldport and yachats in 2017. Ours was a forest service center so we were able to help fight the wildfires fires. Miss those days
@@catherinenelson4162 yes thanks, I survived, joined USMC, have two great grown children and two grandchildren. I have many fond memories of Astoria, Oregon. Nature has a way of purifying ones soul. Every child should spend time with her. You can only come to respect nature when you witness the beauty.
2006 was a bad, bad year for me personally, but the undisputed high point was a multi-day trip out to Astoria. Museums, food, scenery, people, all were delightful. I should go back some day...
Always enjoyed Astoria and will always stop by when road tripping in the area. It's nice to see this documentary about a town many folks don't know about.
I sometimes miss living on the coast. Lived in Seaside for many years. You forget how depressing it is to live there after awhile. I've lost a lot of friends from that area..
Thoroughly enjoyed this video. I lived in Astoria for three years during the early/mid 1950’s, while my father was stationed at the then US Navy base at Tongue Point. We lived in Navy housing just outside of town. The bridge wasn’t there at the time. We took the ferry over to Washington to visit my grandparents. Downtown Astoria is much like it was when I lived there, minus the ferries, fishing fleet and the canneries. I’ve since taken my wife back to Astoria a few times. Wouldn’t mind living there again.
Since moving to the West Coast three years ago, I’ve been wanting to visit Astoria. This is a great documentary. I would have liked to see more of the city today and what it has to offer seniors.
I grew up On Clatskanie Oregon which is 45 minutes away from The coast Astoria and seaside are basically my homes cus as a teenager and in my early 20’s I spent most my time There I Love it and miss it !!
HEYYY YOOUU GUUUYYSS.. It's not a tumor!! Kindergarten Cop was filmed there too. The school is about a half dozen blocks down the street from the Goonies house! Anyway great doc, Astoria is an awesome place to visit. The old canneries are really cool!
Don't forget Free Willy and one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movies was filmed in Clatsop County there's a scene where they run across the foot of the youngs River Falls ( I guess our forest out here looks kind of like Japan LOL) and I went to the school that the Ring 2 was filmed in and a few more that I can't remember off the top of my head
22:49 the first railroad connecting Portland to Astoria was the Astoria & Columbia River Railroad in 1898. The A&CR became part of the Spokane, Portland and Seattle Railroad in 1911. SP&S was merged with a few other railroads to form Burlington Northern in 1970, which today is BNSF. In the 1990s BN wanted to get rid of the Astoria line, and in 1997 it was sold to the Portland & Western between Portland (Willbridge) and Tongue Point, with the City of Astoria acquiring the remaining few miles. Today the Astoria Riverfront Trolley operates along the tracks in the city. In 2003, the State of Oregon along with the Portland & Western and Amtrak launched a three-car rail diesel car (RDC) train called the Lewis & Clark Explorer that ran between Linnton, just east of Portland, and Astoria to celebrate the bicentennial of the Lewis & Clark expedition. Though widely popular, it only lasted for two years, ending in 2005. There's a nonprofit group in Astoria that's been working since 1991 to restore a steam locomotive to pristine condition and run excursions along the Columbia River. They hope to get it operational in the next few years, after which they'll restore the track from Astoria 13 miles east to Knappa. www.astoriarailroad.org/
The train actually ran all the way to Seaside. James Beard wrote about taking the train to Gearhart. We had an SP&S freight train come to Seaside about once a week in the 1950s.
@@GH-oi2jf yeah, the first railroad in Astoria was the Astoria and South Coast Railway in 1888 between Astoria and Seaside, later taken over by the A&CR.
I had a good fish and chips lunch from a restaurant boat on land in Astoria. Climbed that tower as well. Nice town. I didn't realize it was that old. The bridge to Washington was a nice drive as well.
I'm not a native but i am a resident of Astoria and I love this littlle town. You really do have to intend to be here. It is still a great place with exceptional people. Its history is rich with excitement and tragedy. It's scenery with the Columbia is inspiring. It's too bad they destroyed the fisheries. Ps. If the ground starts shaking violently get the hell outta my way.
I was born in Oregon. My grandmother taught me how to fish when I was 5. When my family moved overseas, she would ship us canned salmon. Everywhere we lived, the pantry was stocked with canned salmon to the ceiling.
I made a trip from Nevada and stayed in the cannery pier hotel and visited the town it was realy awsome,one of the best hotels I've stayed at and I've stayed in many
I sailed in 2012 from Portland down the Columbia out the bar and down to Tillamook Oregon and back up the Columbia to Portland. One of the most technical and dangerous sailing you can do. The amount of Large Ocean going freighters, tugs, and barges going up and down the Columbia was far more then ply Puget Sound to Seattle and Tacoma.
So...not sure about that route but from Portland to Astoria...there was a ton of logs and debris you will hit...back in the day they had hundreds of piers along the river bank and today they have the remains of the large poles still sticking in the mud along the bank and the dangerous ones are the ones just under the surface that you can not see just waiting to punch a hole in your boat. This is very important to know as when you sail or motor going up stream (against the current) a tactic to make better headway is to hug the bank so you can take advantage of the counter current but you run the risk of hitting one of these submerged pilings. They are charted on the charts but I bet not every one of them is in the charts...Best...SV Aquila...Seattle@@NFS305
Didn’t cover some of the most interesting parts, the tunnels under town like the Shanghai hole behind the bar at the Workers tavern that leads right to the water. The recurring arsonist that has burned the waterfront every 50 years since its inception. Some of the most potent Psychedelic mushrooms in the world grow freely in everyone’s yards that have wood chips. The abandoned artillery facilities on the cliffs at Tongue point that should never be explored. That town is glorious or sleepy on a good day and then a dark cloud will pass over and you are instantly in a Steven King novel.
My great grandmother was a tuna tester in 1936 she was mentioned in a book wish I could remember the name of it.she used to tell me how hard a job it was when I was little Miss her so much ❤
I miss my grandma, too. Her name was Dorothy, she lived in Oregon and she went fishing for salmon until she was in her 80s. She taught me how to fish, and dig clams, make berry jam and apple pie and make a fire. She taught me how to use a ham radio and I learned Morse code in her basement. She was the best. What is a tuna tester?
@@SuperNoncents Sure a lot easier to get to Astoria passing through the shithole. Used to visit family on a regular basis in St Helen and McMinnville, Oregon. I love Oregon, but I’m not going back until Oregon cleans up the woke act. It may not happen in my lifetime. Unbelievable how far downhill the place has gone in 10 years.
@@luckyc3926 St Helen is not too bad of a place to visit but there is an unknown reason why the main corridor has not been developed. Strangely similar as the question of why there is no attempt to build a highway from Yamhill or Gaston out to Beaverton. As for Mcminnville, there is nothing good to say about it. They are racial hypocrisy druggie followers. And I would offer to box anyone from Mcminnville. Or from my own small town.
@@SuperNoncents Actually as long as Portland has the money it has the most influence. Washington is pretty well off financially but they seem to keep the money all tied up. In fact I would suggest that Astoria has nothing to do in relation to Oregon. Other than a paper written relationship. I think Astoria belongs to something not seen. I really wouldn't recommend not living there. Nor is there any reason to visit Astoria. There's something strange about the lighthouse tower to visit in Astoria. I would suggest they play off any manifest intent to climb the lighthouse. If you do climb it be sure to say to yourself that you simply want to enjoy the view, or simply that climbing the lighthouse would be good exercise potentially.
@@luckyc3926 Is t he Woke Act" simply anything you disagree with? I'm gonna let u in on a little secret - cities haven't changed. Portland has less crime now than in the 90's. It's safer now than ever before. Homelessness is up, but it's not at 1930's levels. Turn off the propaganda u call news. Do some research, and start learning the facts.
You're the guy that called for a roofing bid, And started out by saying that You like the fact that we have an all white crew. And we had some Mexican Americans on the crew so my Dad says, sorry we can't work for you.
Yeesh, these men were exploring this beautiful, vast, lush, ancient, well-tended continent and could only think of ways to destroy it and could only murder all the animals for money. So painful to think about. So much beauty lost and destroyed.
I once stepped off a hundred foot cliff in Astoria. What a beautiful little town, and what a response to save me. I have always felt a little guilty for taxing their resources as I was hitchhiking through. But has always made me happy to have survived Astoria. Thanks to all. The entire clatsop county rescue people, I had all of them there. The high angle rescue squad that happened to be on training exercises that week. Astoria hospital that the er waited for me for hours. The cute blonde male nurse that blew the dirt from my eyes. The Irishman that got me up the cliff in a Kinsey basket. And the twenty or thirty young men on the top that worked the ropes. The bald eagle that flew over our heads at about 530am that morning. Well I wish I could report that I was worth saving, but alas, all I can say is that God is obviously not done with me. None the less, thank you so much for your service and maybe it was you that God had plans for.🤣😂🥲. Thanks again, Tammie Carpenter. July 2013? Still waiting.
I LIVED AND WORKED IN CANNON BEACH, OREGON, 26 MILES SOUTH OF ASTORIA FOR 20 YEARS, THE HAPPIEST OF MY 8O YEARS. I WORKED AT TER-HARS, OWNED BY A WONDERFUL FAMILY, THE ORIGINAL STORE IN SEASIDE, THE NEW STORE IN CANNON BEACH, WITH THE MOST BEAUTIFUL MERCHANDISE ON THE COAST!! CANNON BEACH IS A GORGEOUS VILLAGE IN THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SURROUNDINGS ON THE OCEAN!!
The NBC TV series Movin'On filmed an episode in Astoria/Olney Oregon in the summer of 1974.The episode title is "The Trick Is To Stay Alive".The episode is here on YT and on TUBI.
Lived in forrest grove and in Portland. Driving to Astoria was some of the most beautiful scenery trees mountain roads rivers and lakes blue water clear and cold. Dear elk moose bears. Gorgeous
My sister and I are related to the infamous Bridget Grant, the Shanghai queen of Astoria, me by marriage my sister is blood relative . One of Bridget’s daughters who was a teacher in Oakland calif years later in her life, taught me how to play chess in my early childhood, as kids we would on sundays visit our great grandmother at her house in Oakland. That was when they still had ferry boats that would take you across the bay from Tiberon on to Oakland , ages ago when there were only two bridges across the bay the Bay bridge and the golden gate, was awhile back. Yes the family history is very interesting, thats for sure, always wanted to take my sister to Astoria for Bridget Grant days. She has some health problems now so not sure she could make the trip, but I’m sure she would love it if she could.
I've read Peter Starks book, Astoria. It was a great book on the expedition overland and by sea by Mr. Astor to start the official settlement. A great read I heartily recommend.
I also read the book, Astoria by Peter Stark. An incredible documentary and true adventure story. Two groups of explorers were sent by Jacob Astor and Thomas Jefferson to claim and settle that portion of the west coast. One group went overland and the second group went by sea, journeying down the east coast and around the tip of South America.
They are people stuck in the fifties. They all demand a story be told. Did they demand a lie be told with you? Or did you actually have fun out there? Just curious if you had any personal freedom. Or was it all labor?
It's probably a jig or trick. There is probably a cult secret there which traps certain visitors. There's nothing natural about the Astorian peninsula. The people are not real people and the state parks are some type of stage. I will never trust a beach lover again. They are a slave product, my ex wife loved the beach and was a racist, she has a tattoo that indicates she is a slave.
That sounds fabricated. There is no old growth that won't reform. And it was not comparable to the Redwoods of Northern California. No other species of tree was ever as thick as the Redwoods.
I remember growing up in Long Beach across the river the fishing was very busy in the 60s and 70s they called the mouth of the Columbia shipwreck grave yard of the Pacific due to the sand and gravel coming off the Canadian Rockies that is why you have slot of sand bars
Kindergaten cop, put this place on the map for me, every time i watch that film I find myself in a trance gazing at the background, it seems like such an enchanting place to me, always puts a spell on me every time I when I watch that film, It is my dream to visit this place one day, i am from Yorkshire, England
My favorite place to visit. Did anyone know my grandpa derrel nelson he lived in svenson. Unfortunately he passed in 2019 but i still have family in the area. I would love to share stories about my grandpa. Theres alot i didn't know about him. Merry Christmas all.
In "Undaunted Courage" the book about the Lewis and Clark expedition it said that when they got to the mouth of the Columbia, Astoria was a trading post. That was 1805. This documentary says Astor sent 2 parties to the mouth of the Columbia in 1811. I tend to believe Lewis and Clark because they were surprised someone had already gotten there. Does anyone have more info on this?
@@GH-oi2jf With very little physical evidence to corroborate that expedition story I have come to believe it was made up in order to hide where the shipping was sophisticated in early nineteenth century. Actually the entire story of the settling of the West must have been embellished. In my heritage Oklahoma was the destination chosen with the big oil industry. And people moved to Mexico in the Mexican oil boom. Then when that ended they moved to California. What would possibly pay for wagons to just head east with no cash flow or income? My estimate is any wagons heading east were hired in a assassination campaign of the Native inhabitants. And this theory is backed from my own experience back in 1993 when military agents recruited an older step brother. I think they wanted someone who would want the free ride and would descend racially in a segregation intent. It was as a pirate group elects who would be selected in the Navy recruitment. And I know they want to group any part Indian in as Hispanic. I think this racial lie they demand is a big part of how the high is held up. I can say with certainty the Navy is a drug Cartel.
The only reason John Jacob Astor even knew about Astoria was the journals of Lewis and Clark who traveled overland from St. Louis to the mouth of Columbia. After hearing the stories of the wealth of fur, salmon, trees, etc. Astor financed an expedition to set up a trading post there before the French or British could claim the land.
When I was a kid, I caught perch in the Potomac River back when it was polluted! I stopped fishing when one of the perch was full of worms! It’s amazing I survived. I’m 80 now!
I would enjoy hearing from your perspective. I once gave a small mouth to a lady back when I was a child and I didn't understand the level of toxins. So a man went down to warn her not to eat it. It's also a wonder that I survived beyond my teenage years. I'm 42 according to my birth record date. But something strange has occurred. I feel that time has been taken from me. Perhaps around ten years was stolen. And perhaps when reality restores you would still have youth. But at least for now you have a spectacle to behold.
My third great grandfather said; who’s up for a divide! Convincing the last Frenchman to vote for an American colony instead of a British colony and opening up the first provisional government of the Pacific northwest in Champoeg Oregon 1846. He had to go back to president Polk a second time after the Whitman massacre. He was there for a long time It took the government a long time to ratify it. He worked for William sublet. Many history books about my grandfather in this History. ❤❤❤❤❤
The line hit me "At first, loggers could fall trees close to town" @t=970 Affordable housing came to mind. As population grows and resources get further away... A local person needs to produce a lot of value to buy/build a home.
the entire inside of the house was completely gutted and turned modern it was so run down they had no option. family use to live down the street from there
I just paid 300,000 for a modular on a foundation and 4 acres of land for $300,000 and the land was actually given to me so the house was around $300,000 so $1.7 million for this house isn’t bad at all,I was there last month when they were working on it
Watching this as I eat homemade sushi with Columbia river salmon. 🐟 I love living here for MANY reasons, but the variety of fresh seafood is near the top of my list. Be it salmon, steelhead, rock fish, razor clams or dungeness crab? Few places beat Oregon.
Half the party composing the American expedition by ship where French Canadians, the other mostly British subjects that where previously working for the North West Company. They where not Americans, except the boat captain and some of his men. The boat captain, the American Jonathan Thorn was a thug and a criminal that killed 8 of his crew men and almost abandon a part of his crew to their death on the Iles Malouines (Falklan Island). He died later because of his bad temper and arrogance at the hand of natives off Vancouver Island. The account of the "First American Settlement on the Pacific Coast" as the book is called, publish in the early 1850's is the exact copy of the Book from Gabriel Franchère, published in French 30 years before in the early 1820's. Gabriel Franchère, a French Canadian From Montreal Québec, was part of the boat expedition and was actually the one running the fort Astoria. The Americans never pay tribute to the fact that it's the French Canadians that showed them the way, like in the case of the Expedition of Lewis and Clark. And the French Canadians got showed the way by the many native tribes that populated the Americas for thousands and thousands of years. The United States wealth was born out of the genocide of the native people and the exploitation of slavery. Period !.
2000 years of native history and culture = One short sentence in this documentary. But it was produced by the Clark foundation, so I guess that makes sense.
In the late 70s I was on the USS Fanning FF 1076 we visited Astoria. The local Coast Guard painted an Orange stripe on our ship in the middle of the night. I meet some Girls from a Correctional camp and had a good time there. They were still floating log rafts there then.
I've lived here since 1985. It was a big fishing community. It was a quaint little town. Things were quieter, more affordable, friendly little town. Totally different now. Fishing community all but gone. No housing and property is at prices that only snowbirds can afford. Homeless are everywhere. Over crowded. Crime is high. It's so sad.
Sounds like poor city leadership. But also there was a different culture that built that Town and they really didn't want to share the original foundation building and site planning. Sounds crazy but they may know when a Tsunami will happen. Maybe the wealthy elites are not the class you might assume. It may be that they are tied to it in a way. From the true intentions of becoming a segregation colony. You still live a good life, inland from the coast. Sixty inland miles is what I believe the coast will be after a massive Tsunami. I could see if they had jet pontoon boats they might save some lives. Or those hydroplane crafts. Overall I see it as if that's the way it is out there, then that's all a part of their recipe of conformity. Conforming for what? Perhaps they have a lottery of being entered into a Castle. Perhaps a Castle in social form, but a pyramid complex of slave servants. It must be something as massive as the Freedom tower seen from all over New Jersey. This Pyramid complex must be seen from anywhere around the west coast. When it arrives out of the Earth it is seen east of Las Vegas and into Arizona. And massive flooding will soon follow the arrival. Whatever your level of hardship it wouldn't compare to falling in to the anarcho pyramid slave ship. Don't go near because you'll lose Adult logic. The most you would see any way is hard looking workers dressed in this era clothing and they enter a portal in the side of rock. There is a massive hydro of blue liquid being sprayed horizontally at a massive stone which jets the liquid straight up as high as the Golden pyramid itself. There are plenty of clues and there may be witnesses from this time that saw the pyramid poke up for air. The thing was people really did get converted into salt pewt ash if they looked back after being asked to leave. It was really just the next step beyond shunning. There were worse punishments from the arrival. I have my perspective which would be different from people looking from a different vantage point. Simply people need to hold their turf beyond the arrival of the Pyramid. Then the Earth will shift continents on a massive massive scale. The Alps will be west of oregon. And Oregon is fated to be the last visible state of the lower 48 and it will be the last remaining civilian state in the lower 48.
@@marioduron4376 have you considered seeking mental help? Based on your comments it seems you may have paranoid schizophrenia. I'm not trying to be mean but your posts are bizarre and make little sense.
Your perspective on Astoria is unique as most Astorians do not share your views. I am so sorry for your personal disappointment in such a wonderful city even today.
Fun Fact- Astoria Oregon is where after only a short telephone discussion with Colleen at the Astoria Chamber of Commerce, the world-famous philanthropist Niles Standish decided to establish his revolutionary community-integrated rehabilitation facility Lollypop House!
I grew up just across the river from Astoria and I even lived there for a while. There is so much I would like to say but I don't want to leave a novel on here. When I was a teenager I lived over there and my friends and I would explore the underground. It's the part of the city Left Behind from when it burned down the second time. They just built right over the top of it. It's locked and gated nowadays but there used to be a dozen entrances and it was super fun to explore. Check it out look up the Astoria Underground
@madmaxsmotorcycles I need to hear everything you can remember about your exploration. I've never explored Astoria, but I've visited Fort Steven's and the Astoria Column. I have a brother who lives in Astoria. Maybe you know him. There's an incredible amount of secrecy and coverup,I don't have proof yet, but I don't need it. I also have a massive number of clues I've found and would like to share my perspective. I didn't know the city burnt down a second. Was the second time after the December 8th 1922 industrial fire? I personally don't buy the narrative supplied regarding the December 8th fire. It doesn't make sense tge town would have enough black powder dynamite to suffocate a massive industrial fire. As well, there is no chance the men could respond with the heat from such a giant blaze. The photo itself holds significant clues. Tge writing on the face of the picture was not common and suggested it was some other fire. Likely, there were no pictures of the massive blaze because the equipment would have needed to have been set up beforehand. Look at the masonry of the chimney it appears to be early forties. As well the writing on the picture might also cover up some roof vents, which indicates possibly a laundry center ventilation. The real problem with that picture is that the monkey tree is seen down by the industrial avenue. And the Monkey tree grows only an inch a year with professional horticultural upkeep. The monkey tree is from Bangladesh only. So you can imagine how difficult it would be to bring a monkey tree over and have sucsess on that scale. Steam ship was the only way to ship, and it was basically very rare to have any shipping from Bangladesh. I'm not sure, but Steam Ships went out sometime in the twenties. Then you have the question of where all the laborers went? You can't even imagine all the infrastructure built around there, plenty I'd hidden. In a way, it's an intended projection of intentions. You've got further proof of, in my opinion, a medieval castle complex hidden from Astoria down to Pacific city and then down to Cannon Beach. I've got all the clues. I need to know something exists there and lives separately. Look at the people who are attracted to Astoria as well. It's not an insult, but still, it is a certain needy type. Now imagine the story behind Fort Steven's was fabricated as well. What if the guns were going to point east in an alignment with European nations. Astoria Column I visited, and there were these two elderly ladies who sounded Australian, we climbed up together. None of this is fabricated, but it sounds silly. I had a torn hamstring and was a young teen, and remember the ladies were in good shape, and they marched me up there in a hurry. I remember being up at the top, and the ladies were so tight on my ass that they didn't recognize we were at the top yet. They ran into my ass abd I fell back into them. The one bigger Australian I fell onto and it was a pyleup. The bigger one was like yelping for a minute as we untangled. It was nuts because the sound resonated into the town of Astoria just like a warning siren. The ladies were pissed and my step dad needed to calm the other aussie down in the parking lot. After that, the pictures painted were there in the column. Now, they registered the column as within city limits. I really won't trust that town or the people. As well there's more evidence of secret industrial conversion and linking into other areas, underground with unexplored caves or viaduct. My best guess is there's an underground cave system extending from Tacoma down to Astoria into east of Las Vegas. Evidence of a secret deep state is well established with possibilities of a medieval ruler controlling from a different time zone. I assume people who are overzealous and wannabe extremists would jump into that medieval lap. Thus, a different spirit would take control. There is plenty of proof of thus capability up on Vashon island with the monetary monks. Missing people as well as showing wherever people go missing most often. It indicates humans are considered consumable. I know there were potentially many people who died I that industrial fire. I personally know family members were not heard from again after that Astoria industrial fire. You have evidence of several cult secrets of foreign industrial demand. Possibly, a wax product was imitated from Nazi evolution. And, then, you may have a secret labor force that was covered up. American Indians and American Asian would have been much more prevalent there in those days. I have other clues also, but I don't want to cause a scrambled brain. Maritime museum in Fort Steven's has clues, and the other one in Newport, I think, shows the limits of steam ships. The more I think about it, the more it is fishy up there. Astoria Megler Bridge is very impractical. It could be a part of sending an invasion signal, same as Astoria Column. Astoria has a natural flat beach with river access combined clues, indicating it would be reclaimed by some more advanced version of the British. And they hold the knowledge of raising the gateway of Atlantis. Possibly the gates of Tartaria as well.
@marioduron4376 LOL there are monkey trees everywhere here on the peninsula and around Astoria. I call myself a conspiracy theorist but you take the cake my friend. The first fire happened in the 1880s I believe it was 1888 the second fire was in 1922. If you're so concerned about all of this why not take the time to visit and do some of your own investigating instead of shouting wild claims with no evidence. The museums in Astoria are quite beautiful. At the bottom of 14th Street there's a large rock at the bottom of a hole where the original Beach was, now surrounded by infill ( so the town couldn't burn down again). It was to Mark where the high tide line was originally. They call it tide Rock. You must understand Astoria is the oldest settlement west of the Mississippi there is a incredible amount of history there. The Good The Bad and The Ugly.
@madmaxsmotorcycles So I didn't know the first fire was earlier. There are definitely not monkey trees everywhere on that peninsula. For one, you don't have favorable conditions for growing monkey trees. As well monkey trees require a certain knowledge and talent in their upkeep. They grow an inch a year only in mild seasons and with winter wrapping. Obviously, the monkey tree is from Bangladesh only, and there were no steam ship routes from Bangladesh until the early twenties. Thus, unless the monkey tree was grown up past five feet and then taken on the steam ship, how would the monkey tree survive that journey? I would say that possibly everything I commented on may be pretty accurate. And possibly everything taught in the mainstream is all a conspiracy.
@madmaxsmotorcycles I would also suggest there were multiple different things the industrial fires destroyed evidence of. I do present evidence that I simply have a strong interpretation of the evidence on record. For now, I don't intend to go to Astoria unless there's a paying job to do. But that could change someday. You call me a conspiracy theorist, but I back up my perspective. I guess I'm more concerned about the people surviving a tsunami wave. You know there's a hill there they intend to climb if there's a tsunami. Their nuts to assume that would be high enough ground. There's a bridge into town, but it's technically a bridge onto the peninsula. It would be simple to trap those people and claim them all as slaves. It's designed to be invaded, I'm telling you. Sure, I'd enjoy your museums the one of the historic houses, I'm not sure. I'll lay another component on you. Queen Ann colonial historical buildings perhaps early 1840s there's not many written deeds from that time. So you basically would need to deconstruct down to the foundation in order to find proof of the year. For one, you have proof that foundation technology was covered up with the mud flood events. Possibly another reason behind the industrial fires was to find proof of property ownership or proof of original habitatation occupancy. Or there was secret industrial tech in these foundations. I know what I know. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but a reasonist if that were a proper term. With everything, there is a reason. Beyond that, it'll be extremely obvious soon enough. I'm not concerned about changing your mind.
@marioduron4376 you know with those long novels you keep sending me I'm not sure who you're trying to convince. However if you want to have the last word that's fine I won't respond again I'm done talking to you. God bless goodbye
They were probably a true artifact. In many movies everything is a cover story for the real beings to live in a slightly different time zone. There may be reality to that saying. But there may be a jig to it.
@@donHooligan That's just an illusion. She simply has ice and fire and wants you to go and riot. You never will see anything as horrific anytime in recorded history. In the most simple term they are going to harvest the riot crowd into one growing blob of burning current. You are free thinking but do you know how to ask questions, and can you think big enough? The reality is Oregon is the only State that has paid in Gold to stay in a civilian state. The Gold is paid to the deep state agents. It has absolutely nothing to do with the puppets of the Government stage act.
There are many reasons the salmon fisheries failed but over- fishing is one of the main ones. Dams are a huge problem. Remove the 4 lower Snake River dams to allow easy passage into Idaho for thousands of miles of prime salmon spawning habitat. 😊
Love the music in the background at about 15:4015:41... beautiful country up there...if I ever decided to leave Tennessee id go up there...i wanna ride a bicycle through the neighborhood of the goonies filming location.. and take a picture or two on that piece of road where chunk says he wants a baby ruth and lets go home
And it is even worse now. Always a comfortably affordable town until about 15 years ago. Now the super rich have discovered it and many of the homes have been bought up and made into occasional vacation homes that are visited maybe once or twice a year. It has driven housing prices so high that the average person can no. longer afford to live here. Most jobs are service industry jobs that pay only minimum wage. We now have a huge homeless population like so many places these days. So, so sad. It has always been such a nice town to live in and a friendly community with so much beauty.
From the insatiable greed of John Aster to the currentgreed of Rich Industrial upper class and abusive fisherman. They're not all abusive but many of them are atrocious dumping fuel oil into the water and leaving waste everywhere while pretending to be such hardworking wage earners when they are incredibly well off. I've dated their ex-girlfriends, some very bad habits! But there are also some really good people. They drive like cowboys in their $50,000 pickups daring anyone to get in their way. Very low value on anything like literacy and yet there are some awesome artists in this little town.
She said, and I'm sure with a straight face, that no one had claimed the land yet. Un, hello 👋 how about the people who were already living there having claimed the land 🤷♀️
My theory is that many early North Americans were allowed through a Jesus ship portal into an incrementally different and separate dimension. Thus when planetary alignment occurs there will be a dimensional shift, and with the shift there will be a change in tension regarding the tensity of terms and the tension of life. As well there will be a true physical difference with the change. While certain ailments will be lifted, basic transportation will be altered on a grand scale. The trucking industry will be most noticeably affected before and after the shift. The entire style of transport will change. And with the current style of automobile, they simply won't be able to get enough traction to get up hills. Keep the faith up that there is a God that loves you no matter what happens. And remember that Man doesn't have a cure. But Mankind can accept the love of Jesus and then you will accept one's true wealth the wealth that is yet to behold, and is the energy possible which replaces the lower form of currency. The scenic view will change dramatically fast as will the true spirits of north America that will be seen for the first time from non tribal members.
I think Astoria represents something quite odd in the history of Oregon, and, the US in general.
Somehow its both a story of unfathomable Boom-Bust cycles
While also being a tale long cherished of subtle perseverance.
Its rare to find both in one place. And yet, here we find Astoria. What was once touted (by myself included as a kid) as the New York of The West, is today maybe Oregon's most historied, town. A place that has lived its life in the lime light for nearly a century and a half, and today finds itself quite happily as little more than a seaside town at the end of some of the finest roads (and The finest river) one could hope to travel. Somewhere between the past and the present, the world forgot about Astoria and her stories. From the wood that built the world, to the fish that fed it, the port that sent it all out, and took very little in.
The world might have, at least for a time, forgotten Astoria. But The Astorians never did. And damn well they never shall
There's no we here, not French or Spanish. I think racism may have originated from tree farmers in that area of the Astoria peninsula. But it is still propagated at a level where I have a hard profile of tribal alignment with extremists in that area.
From past experience they will try to smear you in every way possible out there.
@@marioduron4376 what?
@@marioduron4376 wha?
@@SuperNoncents I was told by an Astorian resident that in the case of a tsunami they have a hill that they intend to climb. And it was suggested it was safe from the tsunami. They seem to demand their story. And they always interject that they were heroes. Like with the story of the fire. I would think it was the 1830s that the industrial fire took place. Because they had plenty of explosive material in storage. Maybe the detonation did block the fire or possibly it sucked enough air out for the fire to collapse. There was just no way they would have been able to act in front of a fire like that. You see the heat would be far too intense. Astoria is a daycare for trustafarians, they are too old to demand a story be read. It's not the fairy tale they promote. Somehow with the people Astoria attract there absolutely must be something pagan or paranormal that would compete with either the Heroin high or the coke high, and I mean the injected high. You probably have heard of the prison gang termed Supreme White Power? SWP is the tattoo they receive when certain orders are followed. Then the person would receive protection from other prison gangs. Astoria has attracted SWP gang members in the past. And I met one SWP member that had lived in Astoria and he loved it there. That's the comfort zone out in Astoria. It's a pagan free ride zone of wannabe white supremacists.
@@saltydog-mv4ij Mainly I say the story of Astoria is all a cover story. I would think that the real story would include war crimes. That's why the town of Astoria attracts empty soul free riders of the euphio machine. I don't need to go there. If you need me to say something good about Astoria I would say the lot spacing is good. The old houses are nice but they have nothing to do with Victorian houses builders or the style of British Columbia. And further I say the best houses would have been constructed from 1830 to 1840 and if you want proof you need to look in the construction of the foundation. But also there would be too much destruction if someone did prove the date on a historical building. Personally I would have the state buy all of Astoria and move the citizens all up to safety in higher elevations. As well all the historical buildings should be available to view and learn of in a paid guided tour.
I'm fortunate to be able to reside here. I absolutely love this town. If you get a chance to come visit in the summer, take a walk around town and keep an eye out for a stashed painted sand dollar. I find the sand dollars on Sunset Beach just 7 miles south down 101 and paint them then stash them around town. LM Sand dollars.. .. I hope you come and find one 😊
I live in Corvallis and frequently go to Astoria. I will live there one day.
@@SuperNoncents I live here now
I too live in Astoria in the Astor building overlooking the Columbia.
@@darthku1408 how is it there? Always see that building and wonder what it would be like to live there regularly
@@thomasel9171 It's pretty nice here. I have an amazing view of the river.
One of our favorite places to visit. So much to do and see in the area. Anyone venturing to the west coast must come and spend some time here along with Seaside in Oregon and Long Beach in Washington. You will never regret it.
My father was in the navy during WW 2. At the end of the war, ships from the Pacific theater came into the U.S. Pacific ports for repairs. The ships were lined up from Astoria to Portland, waiting their turns for repairs, so my father was able to get off the ship in Astoria many times, then he was discharged when they got to Portland and he went straight back to Astoria, where he met my mother, who was in a nursing program at the large hospital there.
They gt married and moved to California,
where they live for the restvof their long lives.
The hospital was St. Mary (commonly called St. Mary’s) where my mother trained during the war. They may have known each other. An interesting article on the nursing school was published by the Clatsop County Historical Society several years ago.
Wow awesome
After all that they still decided to live in the sceptic tank of the US...?
I was born at St. Mary's Hospital. Attended Star of Sea school. Grew up in Alderbrook. My hometown is my happy place..❤
My Dad worked at Tongue Point. Painted the numbers on the ships. 😊
I’m fortunate to call this place home!
Why because they walk on eggshells for you? Or because there is no consequence for your constant belittling? I already know the beach community cannot be decent. They can't even respect working there temporarily. Astoria is a fake wannabe racial hood of cult followers. So are Netarts or Tillamook. They are fake and they are cowards. And there is no real work ethic whatsoever. They just want to work the system out there. And they will tell a lie about heritage to work the system. Working the system is all that is in their hearts out there at the beach. They all lie and I'll fight any of them. Mainly I offer to box anyone from the beach of Oregon. Matching head gear and gloves. I'm calling every inhabitant of the Oregon coast a coward. Cowards that will never fight but only taunt.
Same!
Astoria has always been my favorite place on earth.
Joined the Navy in '74 in FL. , active duty on the USS Rogers DD-876 in Portland 1/75 got off the ship in '79. We spent every year a week in Astoria and many stops for a day over the years. After I got out I stayed in Oregon for over 30+ years.
You were very fortunate. I was on 876 for a better part of 4 years. All in San Diego and Westpacs. I'm from Salem and would have loved to have been homeported there.
@@stevehansen6995 There is a FaceBook Page. USS Rogers. Lived in Yamhill County on Hwy47.
I attended the Job Corp at Tongue Point in Astoria Oregon in the late 1970’s. I was 16 and had just been emancipated. It was formerly a Naval Base, what a gorgeous location. I wish I’d not been such a troubled child and enjoyed it more. Even still, I knew I’d been given an amazing opportunity to live in a spectacular place. Wish I’d stayed there.
Stella, good on you for appreciating what you had in Astoria. I hope you can go back to visit it. I took a troubled (and abused) teenager into my home (more than once).
Her dad took her after a number of months from my home in Coos Bay. When she finished high school, she was put in the job corps, which she got kicked out of.
Many years later, she and my daughter are still friends, and have taken care of one another's kids.
My daughter has done very well for herself, and has helped her friend along the way.
Her friend didn't always make good life choices, but has persevered and her kids are mostly raised. Does she wish she had made better choice. Yes! But considering how much she went through as a child, I think she has done pretty well!
That same sentiment likely applies to you also.
I went to job corps between waldport and yachats in 2017. Ours was a forest service center so we were able to help fight the wildfires fires. Miss those days
@@catherinenelson4162 yes thanks, I survived, joined USMC, have two great grown children and two grandchildren. I have many fond memories of Astoria, Oregon. Nature has a way of purifying ones soul. Every child should spend time with her. You can only come to respect nature when you witness the beauty.
2006 was a bad, bad year for me personally, but the undisputed high point was a multi-day trip out to Astoria. Museums, food, scenery, people, all were delightful. I should go back some day...
Do it before you pass. Bucket list it has its beauty
Thank you to everyone involved in making this. Spent some time in Astoria during the fires of 2020 and fell in love with the place
Always enjoyed Astoria and will always stop by when road tripping in the area. It's nice to see this documentary about a town many folks don't know about.
If the documentary were real it would leave you with many questions rather than providing the conclusions from just perspective.
@marioduron4376 Ok pansy.
I sometimes miss living on the coast. Lived in Seaside for many years. You forget how depressing it is to live there after awhile. I've lost a lot of friends from that area..
Beautiful but can get depressing, knowing the hardships that happened there.
Thoroughly enjoyed this video. I lived in Astoria for three years during the early/mid 1950’s, while my father was stationed at the then US Navy base at Tongue Point. We lived in Navy housing just outside of town. The bridge wasn’t there at the time. We took the ferry over to Washington to visit my grandparents. Downtown Astoria is much like it was when I lived there, minus the ferries, fishing fleet and the canneries. I’ve since taken my wife back to Astoria a few times. Wouldn’t mind living there again.
I love Astoria. It's one of my favorite cities and I'm tickled that I only live 45 minutes away on the Washington side. ❤❤❤
Astoria is and will always be my favorite town in Oregon, I always look forward to visiting there!
Since moving to the West Coast three years ago, I’ve been wanting to visit Astoria. This is a great documentary. I would have liked to see more of the city today and what it has to offer seniors.
I grew up
On Clatskanie Oregon which is 45 minutes away from
The coast Astoria and seaside are basically my homes cus as a teenager and in my early 20’s I spent most my time
There I
Love it and miss it
!!
The Oregon coast has always been my favorite place in the whole world. Just so peaceful and wild. Whenever I need a break from life thats where I go.
HEYYY YOOUU GUUUYYSS.. It's not a tumor!! Kindergarten Cop was filmed there too. The school is about a half dozen blocks down the street from the Goonies house! Anyway great doc, Astoria is an awesome place to visit. The old canneries are really cool!
Don't forget Free Willy and one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movies was filmed in Clatsop County there's a scene where they run across the foot of the youngs River Falls ( I guess our forest out here looks kind of like Japan LOL) and I went to the school that the Ring 2 was filmed in and a few more that I can't remember off the top of my head
I love Astoria. I met love here that in the end hurt me but this place stole my heart. Forever Oregonian ❤️
22:49 the first railroad connecting Portland to Astoria was the Astoria & Columbia River Railroad in 1898. The A&CR became part of the Spokane, Portland and Seattle Railroad in 1911. SP&S was merged with a few other railroads to form Burlington Northern in 1970, which today is BNSF. In the 1990s BN wanted to get rid of the Astoria line, and in 1997 it was sold to the Portland & Western between Portland (Willbridge) and Tongue Point, with the City of Astoria acquiring the remaining few miles. Today the Astoria Riverfront Trolley operates along the tracks in the city. In 2003, the State of Oregon along with the Portland & Western and Amtrak launched a three-car rail diesel car (RDC) train called the Lewis & Clark Explorer that ran between Linnton, just east of Portland, and Astoria to celebrate the bicentennial of the Lewis & Clark expedition. Though widely popular, it only lasted for two years, ending in 2005.
There's a nonprofit group in Astoria that's been working since 1991 to restore a steam locomotive to pristine condition and run excursions along the Columbia River. They hope to get it operational in the next few years, after which they'll restore the track from Astoria 13 miles east to Knappa. www.astoriarailroad.org/
The train actually ran all the way to Seaside. James Beard wrote about taking the train to Gearhart. We had an SP&S freight train come to Seaside about once a week in the 1950s.
@@GH-oi2jf yeah, the first railroad in Astoria was the Astoria and South Coast Railway in 1888 between Astoria and Seaside, later taken over by the A&CR.
I had a good fish and chips lunch from a restaurant boat on land in Astoria. Climbed that tower as well. Nice town. I didn't realize it was that old. The bridge to Washington was a nice drive as well.
The restaurant i called “The Bow Picker,” which describes the type of boat.
I'm not a native but i am a resident of Astoria and I love this littlle town. You really do have to intend to be here. It is still a great place with exceptional people. Its history is rich with excitement and tragedy. It's scenery with the Columbia is inspiring. It's too bad they destroyed the fisheries. Ps. If the ground starts shaking violently get the hell outta my way.
A fabulous documentary! Informative, educational and fun to watch! Thanks, Oregon Public Broadcasting.
I was born in Oregon. My grandmother taught me how to fish when I was 5. When my family moved overseas, she would ship us canned salmon. Everywhere we lived, the pantry was stocked with canned salmon to the ceiling.
I made a trip from Nevada and stayed in the cannery pier hotel and visited the town it was realy awsome,one of the best hotels I've stayed at and I've stayed in many
I sailed in 2012 from Portland down the Columbia out the bar and down to Tillamook Oregon and back up the Columbia to Portland. One of the most technical and dangerous sailing you can do. The amount of Large Ocean going freighters, tugs, and barges going up and down the Columbia was far more then ply Puget Sound to Seattle and Tacoma.
That's pretty awesome.✌️🇺🇲
West coast sailing is west toast sailing now
I’m thinking about floating the Williamette from Dexter to Portland.
So...not sure about that route but from Portland to Astoria...there was a ton of logs and debris you will hit...back in the day they had hundreds of piers along the river bank and today they have the remains of the large poles still sticking in the mud along the bank and the dangerous ones are the ones just under the surface that you can not see just waiting to punch a hole in your boat. This is very important to know as when you sail or motor going up stream (against the current) a tactic to make better headway is to hug the bank so you can take advantage of the counter current but you run the risk of hitting one of these submerged pilings. They are charted on the charts but I bet not every one of them is in the charts...Best...SV Aquila...Seattle@@NFS305
Was lucky enough to visit Astoria in October, such a beautiful place.
Didn’t cover some of the most interesting parts, the tunnels under town like the Shanghai hole behind the bar at the Workers tavern that leads right to the water. The recurring arsonist that has burned the waterfront every 50 years since its inception. Some of the most potent Psychedelic mushrooms in the world grow freely in everyone’s yards that have wood chips. The abandoned artillery facilities on the cliffs at Tongue point that should never be explored. That town is glorious or sleepy on a good day and then a dark cloud will pass over and you are instantly in a Steven King novel.
I love astoria, such a calm little town
Till the tsunami hits.
@@seeharvester till jericho labonte hits
It’s always amazing to see how many salmon were in the river and how many giant old-growth trees were still in the area about 100 years ago
crazy what humans can do in such a short span
@@DendoTendo 100 years is a long time
my friend.
@@katedaphne4495 not really in the span of the life
My great grandmother was a tuna tester in 1936 she was mentioned in a book wish I could remember the name of it.she used to tell me how hard a job it was when I was little
Miss her so much ❤
I miss my grandma, too. Her name was Dorothy, she lived in Oregon and she went fishing for salmon until she was in her 80s. She taught me how to fish, and dig clams, make berry jam and apple pie and make a fire. She taught me how to use a ham radio and I learned Morse code in her basement. She was the best. What is a tuna tester?
@@cantfindmykeys I guess they just tasted the tuna to make sure it was 👍
@@dollmck8360 I'm not crazy about fish, other than shellfish. My friend's mom was a taster for Hershey's when I was a kid. Lucky woman!
@@cantfindmykeys that sounds like the better of the two.
@@dollmck8360 for a chocoholic like me, definitely.
Great little place. I have been a couple of times.
To bad Oregon (Portland area) has feel off the deep end.
Portland has nothing to do with Astoria nor the rest of the state
@@SuperNoncents
Sure a lot easier to get to Astoria passing through the shithole.
Used to visit family on a regular basis in St Helen and McMinnville, Oregon. I love Oregon, but I’m not going back until Oregon cleans up the woke act.
It may not happen in my lifetime. Unbelievable how far downhill the place has gone in 10 years.
@@luckyc3926 St Helen is not too bad of a place to visit but there is an unknown reason why the main corridor has not been developed. Strangely similar as the question of why there is no attempt to build a highway from Yamhill or Gaston out to Beaverton. As for Mcminnville, there is nothing good to say about it. They are racial hypocrisy druggie followers. And I would offer to box anyone from Mcminnville. Or from my own small town.
@@SuperNoncents Actually as long as Portland has the money it has the most influence. Washington is pretty well off financially but they seem to keep the money all tied up. In fact I would suggest that Astoria has nothing to do in relation to Oregon. Other than a paper written relationship. I think Astoria belongs to something not seen. I really wouldn't recommend not living there. Nor is there any reason to visit Astoria. There's something strange about the lighthouse tower to visit in Astoria. I would suggest they play off any manifest intent to climb the lighthouse. If you do climb it be sure to say to yourself that you simply want to enjoy the view, or simply that climbing the lighthouse would be good exercise potentially.
@@luckyc3926 Is t
he Woke Act" simply anything you disagree with? I'm gonna let u in on a little secret - cities haven't changed. Portland has less crime now than in the 90's. It's safer now than ever before. Homelessness is up, but it's not at 1930's levels. Turn off the propaganda u call news. Do some research, and start learning the facts.
Come visit Fort Astoria at 15th & Exchange Street. Don't get distracted by the other buildings on the block - beer & food.
You're the guy that called for a roofing bid, And started out by saying that You like the fact that we have an all white crew. And we had some Mexican Americans on the crew so my Dad says, sorry we can't work for you.
Great docu and insights on how Astoria came about and home of the Goonies and Short Circuit!
Came here for the mushrooms. Beautiful, beautiful place. Alot of cool history.
blue ones!
Excellent program! Thank you!
I adore Astoria. This was a really enjoyable piece. TY!
Yeesh, these men were exploring this beautiful, vast, lush, ancient, well-tended continent and could only think of ways to destroy it and could only murder all the animals for money. So painful to think about. So much beauty lost and destroyed.
People can say what they want about Astoria, but I just love it. I always look forward to going back.
I once stepped off a hundred foot cliff in Astoria. What a beautiful little town, and what a response to save me. I have always felt a little guilty for taxing their resources as I was hitchhiking through. But has always made me happy to have survived Astoria. Thanks to all. The entire clatsop county rescue people, I had all of them there. The high angle rescue squad that happened to be on training exercises that week. Astoria hospital that the er waited for me for hours. The cute blonde male nurse that blew the dirt from my eyes. The Irishman that got me up the cliff in a Kinsey basket. And the twenty or thirty young men on the top that worked the ropes. The bald eagle that flew over our heads at about 530am that morning. Well I wish I could report that I was worth saving, but alas, all I can say is that God is obviously not done with me. None the less, thank you so much for your service and maybe it was you that God had plans for.🤣😂🥲. Thanks again, Tammie Carpenter. July 2013? Still waiting.
I've been going to Astoria since I was a kid. Love it so much.
I LIVED AND WORKED IN CANNON BEACH, OREGON, 26 MILES SOUTH OF ASTORIA FOR 20 YEARS, THE HAPPIEST OF MY 8O YEARS. I WORKED AT TER-HARS, OWNED BY A WONDERFUL FAMILY, THE ORIGINAL STORE IN SEASIDE, THE NEW STORE IN CANNON BEACH, WITH THE MOST BEAUTIFUL MERCHANDISE ON THE COAST!! CANNON BEACH IS A GORGEOUS VILLAGE IN THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SURROUNDINGS ON THE OCEAN!!
The NBC TV series Movin'On filmed an episode in Astoria/Olney Oregon in the summer of 1974.The episode title is "The Trick Is To Stay Alive".The episode is here on YT and on TUBI.
I grew up in Astoria and Warrenton. My Mom worked the canery in the 70s. I live our little towns.
My grandmother and mother were full blooded Finnish people working in the 60s in Astoria.
As someone who has grown up in Gresham my whole life. I love me some Astoria
Lived in forrest grove and in Portland. Driving to Astoria was some of the most beautiful scenery trees mountain roads rivers and lakes blue water clear and cold. Dear elk moose bears. Gorgeous
My sister and I are related to the infamous Bridget Grant, the Shanghai queen of Astoria, me by marriage my sister is blood relative . One of Bridget’s daughters who was a teacher in Oakland calif years later in her life, taught me how to play chess in my early childhood, as kids we would on sundays visit our great grandmother at her house in Oakland. That was when they still had ferry boats that would take you across the bay from Tiberon on to Oakland , ages ago when there were only two bridges across the bay the Bay bridge and the golden gate, was awhile back. Yes the family history is very interesting, thats for sure, always wanted to take my sister to Astoria for Bridget Grant days. She has some health problems now so not sure she could make the trip, but I’m sure she would love it if she could.
I've read Peter Starks book, Astoria. It was a great book on the expedition overland and by sea by Mr. Astor to start the official settlement. A great read I heartily recommend.
Thanks for the recommendation!
I also read the book, Astoria by Peter Stark. An incredible documentary and true adventure story. Two groups of explorers were sent by Jacob Astor and Thomas Jefferson to claim and settle that portion of the west coast. One group went overland and the second group went by sea, journeying down the east coast and around the tip of South America.
Was stationed there with the Coast Guard in the early 80s. I loved it.
Excellent documentary! Thank you so much 🌹
More or less a story. Astoria the tall tale story of trustafarians in a sygiant flux of gendorfulgunrant.
I live now in Redmond or but in the 50s lived in an around.astorea thanks for your time Lee
They are people stuck in the fifties. They all demand a story be told. Did they demand a lie be told with you? Or did you actually have fun out there? Just curious if you had any personal freedom. Or was it all labor?
Very well done , thank you architecture is what attracts me
If you do go to Astoria go to Saddle Mountain east of Seaside (Saddle Mountain State Park) a very good view of the Lower Columbia
It's probably a jig or trick. There is probably a cult secret there which traps certain visitors. There's nothing natural about the Astorian peninsula. The people are not real people and the state parks are some type of stage. I will never trust a beach lover again. They are a slave product, my ex wife loved the beach and was a racist, she has a tattoo that indicates she is a slave.
I wished we still had some of those old growth groves because they were as big as any redwoods at least as thick
That sounds fabricated. There is no old growth that won't reform. And it was not comparable to the Redwoods of Northern California. No other species of tree was ever as thick as the Redwoods.
I remember growing up in Long
Beach across the river the fishing was very busy in the 60s and 70s they called the mouth of the Columbia shipwreck grave yard of the Pacific due to the sand and gravel coming off the Canadian Rockies that is why you have slot of sand bars
I've lived in long beach all my life I'm a captain of a aluminum dredge farming oysters only 22
Kindergaten cop, put this place on the map for me, every time i watch that film I find myself in a trance gazing at the background, it seems like such an enchanting place to me, always puts a spell on me every time I when I watch that film, It is my dream to visit this place one day, i am from Yorkshire, England
Great video of the mouth of Columbia. Paved paradise to put up a parking lot..
My favorite place to visit. Did anyone know my grandpa derrel nelson he lived in svenson. Unfortunately he passed in 2019 but i still have family in the area. I would love to share stories about my grandpa. Theres alot i didn't know about him. Merry Christmas all.
Thinking about moving there from Longview Wa love your little town been visiting fo 40 yrs
Was lucky to see that little town in the 70s stay at thunder bird lodge by the Bridge.hauld a lot of Tuna& salmon from there to long Beach, LA.
The Thunderbird is now the Atomic Motel.
In "Undaunted Courage" the book about the Lewis and Clark expedition it said that when they got to the mouth of the Columbia, Astoria was a trading post. That was 1805. This documentary says Astor sent 2 parties to the mouth of the Columbia in 1811. I tend to believe Lewis and Clark because they were surprised someone had already gotten there.
Does anyone have more info on this?
Astor was much later than Lewis and Clark.
@@GH-oi2jf With very little physical evidence to corroborate that expedition story I have come to believe it was made up in order to hide where the shipping was sophisticated in early nineteenth century. Actually the entire story of the settling of the West must have been embellished. In my heritage Oklahoma was the destination chosen with the big oil industry. And people moved to Mexico in the Mexican oil boom. Then when that ended they moved to California. What would possibly pay for wagons to just head east with no cash flow or income? My estimate is any wagons heading east were hired in a assassination campaign of the Native inhabitants. And this theory is backed from my own experience back in 1993 when military agents recruited an older step brother. I think they wanted someone who would want the free ride and would descend racially in a segregation intent. It was as a pirate group elects who would be selected in the Navy recruitment. And I know they want to group any part Indian in as Hispanic. I think this racial lie they demand is a big part of how the high is held up. I can say with certainty the Navy is a drug Cartel.
The only reason John Jacob Astor even knew about Astoria was the journals of Lewis and Clark who traveled overland from St. Louis to the mouth of Columbia. After hearing the stories of the wealth of fur, salmon, trees, etc. Astor financed an expedition to set up a trading post there before the French or British could claim the land.
When I was a kid, I caught perch in the Potomac River back when it was polluted! I stopped fishing when one of the perch was full of worms! It’s amazing I survived. I’m 80 now!
I would enjoy hearing from your perspective. I once gave a small mouth to a lady back when I was a child and I didn't understand the level of toxins. So a man went down to warn her not to eat it. It's also a wonder that I survived beyond my teenage years. I'm 42 according to my birth record date. But something strange has occurred. I feel that time has been taken from me. Perhaps around ten years was stolen. And perhaps when reality restores you would still have youth. But at least for now you have a spectacle to behold.
My third great grandfather said; who’s up for a divide! Convincing the last Frenchman to vote for an American colony instead of a British colony and opening up the first provisional government of the Pacific northwest in Champoeg Oregon 1846. He had to go back to president Polk a second time after the Whitman massacre. He was there for a long time It took the government a long time to ratify it. He worked for William sublet. Many history books about my grandfather in this History. ❤❤❤❤❤
The line hit me "At first, loggers could fall trees close to town" @t=970
Affordable housing came to mind. As population grows and resources get further away... A local person needs to produce a lot of value to buy/build a home.
And the Goonies house just sold...$1.7million. Crazy.
really? LOL PT Barnum would be proud I heard it was up for like 1.6 and I thought that was out to lunch shows you how much I know
Seriously? That's nuts hehe!
Crazy, for sure. It is an old house with many problems including a sliding Foundation.
the entire inside of the house was completely gutted and turned modern it was so run down they had no option. family use to live down the street from there
I just paid 300,000 for a modular on a foundation and 4 acres of land for $300,000 and the land was actually given to me so the house was around $300,000 so $1.7 million for this house isn’t bad at all,I was there last month when they were working on it
Very cool! I grew up here. It’s a wonderful little town.
Watching this as I eat homemade sushi with Columbia river salmon. 🐟
I love living here for MANY reasons, but the variety of fresh seafood is near the top of my list. Be it salmon, steelhead, rock fish, razor clams or dungeness crab? Few places beat Oregon.
I love the soundtrack in the introduction!❤
Half the party composing the American expedition by ship where French Canadians, the other mostly British subjects that where previously working for the North West Company. They where not Americans, except the boat captain and some of his men. The boat captain, the American Jonathan Thorn was a thug and a criminal that killed 8 of his crew men and almost abandon a part of his crew to their death on the Iles Malouines (Falklan Island). He died later because of his bad temper and arrogance at the hand of natives off Vancouver Island. The account of the "First American Settlement on the Pacific Coast" as the book is called, publish in the early 1850's is the exact copy of the Book from Gabriel Franchère, published in French 30 years before in the early 1820's. Gabriel Franchère, a French Canadian From Montreal Québec, was part of the boat expedition and was actually the one running the fort Astoria. The Americans never pay tribute to the fact that it's the French Canadians that showed them the way, like in the case of the Expedition of Lewis and Clark. And the French Canadians got showed the way by the many native tribes that populated the Americas for thousands and thousands of years. The United States wealth was born out of the genocide of the native people and the exploitation of slavery. Period !.
love the hilly residential areas here!🥰
2000 years of native history and culture = One short sentence in this documentary. But it was produced by the Clark foundation, so I guess that makes sense.
The native people didn’t build Astoria. The history of the aboriginals can be found elsewhere.
In the late 70s I was on the USS Fanning FF 1076 we visited Astoria. The local Coast Guard painted an Orange stripe on our ship in the middle of the night. I meet some Girls from a Correctional camp and had a good time there. They were still floating log rafts there then.
Incredible history.
I've lived here since 1985. It was a big fishing community. It was a quaint little town. Things were quieter, more affordable, friendly little town. Totally different now. Fishing community all but gone. No housing and property is at prices that only snowbirds can afford. Homeless are everywhere. Over crowded. Crime is high. It's so sad.
Sounds like poor city leadership. But also there was a different culture that built that Town and they really didn't want to share the original foundation building and site planning. Sounds crazy but they may know when a Tsunami will happen. Maybe the wealthy elites are not the class you might assume. It may be that they are tied to it in a way. From the true intentions of becoming a segregation colony. You still live a good life, inland from the coast. Sixty inland miles is what I believe the coast will be after a massive Tsunami. I could see if they had jet pontoon boats they might save some lives. Or those hydroplane crafts. Overall I see it as if that's the way it is out there, then that's all a part of their recipe of conformity. Conforming for what? Perhaps they have a lottery of being entered into a Castle. Perhaps a Castle in social form, but a pyramid complex of slave servants. It must be something as massive as the Freedom tower seen from all over New Jersey. This Pyramid complex must be seen from anywhere around the west coast. When it arrives out of the Earth it is seen east of Las Vegas and into Arizona. And massive flooding will soon follow the arrival. Whatever your level of hardship it wouldn't compare to falling in to the anarcho pyramid slave ship. Don't go near because you'll lose Adult logic. The most you would see any way is hard looking workers dressed in this era clothing and they enter a portal in the side of rock. There is a massive hydro of blue liquid being sprayed horizontally at a massive stone which jets the liquid straight up as high as the Golden pyramid itself. There are plenty of clues and there may be witnesses from this time that saw the pyramid poke up for air. The thing was people really did get converted into salt pewt ash if they looked back after being asked to leave. It was really just the next step beyond shunning. There were worse punishments from the arrival. I have my perspective which would be different from people looking from a different vantage point. Simply people need to hold their turf beyond the arrival of the Pyramid. Then the Earth will shift continents on a massive massive scale. The Alps will be west of oregon. And Oregon is fated to be the last visible state of the lower 48 and it will be the last remaining civilian state in the lower 48.
@@marioduron4376 have you considered seeking mental help? Based on your comments it seems you may have paranoid schizophrenia. I'm not trying to be mean but your posts are bizarre and make little sense.
Your perspective on Astoria is unique as most Astorians do not share your views. I am so sorry for your personal disappointment in such a wonderful city even today.
what idiocy.@@marioduron4376
This should be called A story of Astoria
Fun Fact- Astoria Oregon is where after only a short telephone discussion with Colleen at the Astoria Chamber of Commerce, the world-famous philanthropist Niles Standish decided to establish his revolutionary community-integrated rehabilitation facility Lollypop House!
My uncle owned the ambulance and taxi service there. I got to fly over the coast in his Medix plane.
The north coast isn't for everyone. If it is for you, though, it is a wonderful place to be.
So wonderful ❤️ video
the harbor seals behind safeway put on a wondeful concert
Love ❤️ that house. All these homes should be saved 💯 🙏 😊🌲
I grew up just across the river from Astoria and I even lived there for a while. There is so much I would like to say but I don't want to leave a novel on here. When I was a teenager I lived over there and my friends and I would explore the underground. It's the part of the city Left Behind from when it burned down the second time. They just built right over the top of it. It's locked and gated nowadays but there used to be a dozen entrances and it was super fun to explore. Check it out look up the Astoria Underground
@madmaxsmotorcycles I need to hear everything you can remember about your exploration. I've never explored Astoria, but I've visited Fort Steven's and the Astoria Column. I have a brother who lives in Astoria. Maybe you know him. There's an incredible amount of secrecy and coverup,I don't have proof yet, but I don't need it. I also have a massive number of clues I've found and would like to share my perspective. I didn't know the city burnt down a second. Was the second time after the December 8th 1922 industrial fire? I personally don't buy the narrative supplied regarding the December 8th fire. It doesn't make sense tge town would have enough black powder dynamite to suffocate a massive industrial fire. As well, there is no chance the men could respond with the heat from such a giant blaze. The photo itself holds significant clues. Tge writing on the face of the picture was not common and suggested it was some other fire. Likely, there were no pictures of the massive blaze because the equipment would have needed to have been set up beforehand. Look at the masonry of the chimney it appears to be early forties. As well the writing on the picture might also cover up some roof vents, which indicates possibly a laundry center ventilation. The real problem with that picture is that the monkey tree is seen down by the industrial avenue. And the Monkey tree grows only an inch a year with professional horticultural upkeep. The monkey tree is from Bangladesh only. So you can imagine how difficult it would be to bring a monkey tree over and have sucsess on that scale. Steam ship was the only way to ship, and it was basically very rare to have any shipping from Bangladesh. I'm not sure, but Steam Ships went out sometime in the twenties. Then you have the question of where all the laborers went? You can't even imagine all the infrastructure built around there, plenty I'd hidden. In a way, it's an intended projection of intentions. You've got further proof of, in my opinion, a medieval castle complex hidden from Astoria down to Pacific city and then down to Cannon Beach. I've got all the clues. I need to know something exists there and lives separately. Look at the people who are attracted to Astoria as well. It's not an insult, but still, it is a certain needy type. Now imagine the story behind Fort Steven's was fabricated as well. What if the guns were going to point east in an alignment with European nations. Astoria Column I visited, and there were these two elderly ladies who sounded Australian, we climbed up together. None of this is fabricated, but it sounds silly. I had a torn hamstring and was a young teen, and remember the ladies were in good shape, and they marched me up there in a hurry. I remember being up at the top, and the ladies were so tight on my ass that they didn't recognize we were at the top yet. They ran into my ass abd I fell back into them. The one bigger Australian I fell onto and it was a pyleup. The bigger one was like yelping for a minute as we untangled. It was nuts because the sound resonated into the town of Astoria just like a warning siren. The ladies were pissed and my step dad needed to calm the other aussie down in the parking lot. After that, the pictures painted were there in the column. Now, they registered the column as within city limits. I really won't trust that town or the people. As well there's more evidence of secret industrial conversion and linking into other areas, underground with unexplored caves or viaduct. My best guess is there's an underground cave system extending from Tacoma down to Astoria into east of Las Vegas. Evidence of a secret deep state is well established with possibilities of a medieval ruler controlling from a different time zone. I assume people who are overzealous and wannabe extremists would jump into that medieval lap. Thus, a different spirit would take control. There is plenty of proof of thus capability up on Vashon island with the monetary monks. Missing people as well as showing wherever people go missing most often. It indicates humans are considered consumable. I know there were potentially many people who died I that industrial fire. I personally know family members were not heard from again after that Astoria industrial fire. You have evidence of several cult secrets of foreign industrial demand. Possibly, a wax product was imitated from Nazi evolution. And, then, you may have a secret labor force that was covered up. American Indians and American Asian would have been much more prevalent there in those days. I have other clues also, but I don't want to cause a scrambled brain. Maritime museum in Fort Steven's has clues, and the other one in Newport, I think, shows the limits of steam ships. The more I think about it, the more it is fishy up there. Astoria Megler Bridge is very impractical. It could be a part of sending an invasion signal, same as Astoria Column. Astoria has a natural flat beach with river access combined clues, indicating it would be reclaimed by some more advanced version of the British. And they hold the knowledge of raising the gateway of Atlantis. Possibly the gates of Tartaria as well.
@marioduron4376 LOL there are monkey trees everywhere here on the peninsula and around Astoria. I call myself a conspiracy theorist but you take the cake my friend. The first fire happened in the 1880s I believe it was 1888 the second fire was in 1922. If you're so concerned about all of this why not take the time to visit and do some of your own investigating instead of shouting wild claims with no evidence. The museums in Astoria are quite beautiful. At the bottom of 14th Street there's a large rock at the bottom of a hole where the original Beach was, now surrounded by infill ( so the town couldn't burn down again). It was to Mark where the high tide line was originally. They call it tide Rock. You must understand Astoria is the oldest settlement west of the Mississippi there is a incredible amount of history there. The Good The Bad and The Ugly.
@madmaxsmotorcycles So I didn't know the first fire was earlier. There are definitely not monkey trees everywhere on that peninsula. For one, you don't have favorable conditions for growing monkey trees. As well monkey trees require a certain knowledge and talent in their upkeep. They grow an inch a year only in mild seasons and with winter wrapping. Obviously, the monkey tree is from Bangladesh only, and there were no steam ship routes from Bangladesh until the early twenties. Thus, unless the monkey tree was grown up past five feet and then taken on the steam ship, how would the monkey tree survive that journey? I would say that possibly everything I commented on may be pretty accurate. And possibly everything taught in the mainstream is all a conspiracy.
@madmaxsmotorcycles I would also suggest there were multiple different things the industrial fires destroyed evidence of. I do present evidence that I simply have a strong interpretation of the evidence on record. For now, I don't intend to go to Astoria unless there's a paying job to do. But that could change someday. You call me a conspiracy theorist, but I back up my perspective. I guess I'm more concerned about the people surviving a tsunami wave. You know there's a hill there they intend to climb if there's a tsunami. Their nuts to assume that would be high enough ground. There's a bridge into town, but it's technically a bridge onto the peninsula. It would be simple to trap those people and claim them all as slaves. It's designed to be invaded, I'm telling you. Sure, I'd enjoy your museums the one of the historic houses, I'm not sure. I'll lay another component on you. Queen Ann colonial historical buildings perhaps early 1840s there's not many written deeds from that time. So you basically would need to deconstruct down to the foundation in order to find proof of the year. For one, you have proof that foundation technology was covered up with the mud flood events. Possibly another reason behind the industrial fires was to find proof of property ownership or proof of original habitatation occupancy. Or there was secret industrial tech in these foundations. I know what I know. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but a reasonist if that were a proper term. With everything, there is a reason. Beyond that, it'll be extremely obvious soon enough. I'm not concerned about changing your mind.
@marioduron4376 you know with those long novels you keep sending me I'm not sure who you're trying to convince. However if you want to have the last word that's fine I won't respond again I'm done talking to you. God bless goodbye
Goonies never say "die."
They were probably a true artifact. In many movies everything is a cover story for the real beings to live in a slightly different time zone. There may be reality to that saying. But there may be a jig to it.
Hey.. you guys.
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....and that $3B in gold is why Nancy Pelosi owns real estate in US government....
j/k....but, seriously...
@@donHooligan That's just an illusion. She simply has ice and fire and wants you to go and riot. You never will see anything as horrific anytime in recorded history. In the most simple term they are going to harvest the riot crowd into one growing blob of burning current. You are free thinking but do you know how to ask questions, and can you think big enough? The reality is Oregon is the only State that has paid in Gold to stay in a civilian state. The Gold is paid to the deep state agents. It has absolutely nothing to do with the puppets of the Government stage act.
Hope to visit next May or June.
Ok well im from Astoria NYC and I love it here too! ❤
I love Astoria,
There are many reasons the salmon fisheries failed but over- fishing is one of the main ones. Dams are a huge problem. Remove the 4 lower Snake River dams to allow easy passage into Idaho for thousands of miles of prime salmon spawning habitat. 😊
Nice piece
Love the music in the background at about 15:40 15:41... beautiful country up there...if I ever decided to leave Tennessee id go up there...i wanna ride a bicycle through the neighborhood of the goonies filming location.. and take a picture or two on that piece of road where chunk says he wants a baby ruth and lets go home
These woods. Scared the crap out of the original Astoians
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Worked on a shrimper, out of Warrenton for five months, 1980.
We love this place
I love Astoria 😁😁Very interested city and very nice city 😆😆
Destroyed paradise with greed.
And it is even worse now. Always a comfortably affordable town until about 15 years ago. Now the super rich have discovered it and many of the homes have been bought up and made into occasional vacation homes that are visited maybe once or twice a year. It has driven housing prices so high that the average person can no. longer afford to live here. Most jobs are service industry jobs that pay only minimum wage. We now have a huge homeless population like so many places these days. So, so sad. It has always been such a nice town to live in and a friendly community with so much beauty.
From the insatiable greed of John Aster to the currentgreed of Rich Industrial upper class and abusive fisherman. They're not all abusive but many of them are atrocious dumping fuel oil into the water and leaving waste everywhere while pretending to be such hardworking wage earners when they are incredibly well off. I've dated their ex-girlfriends, some very bad habits! But there are also some really good people. They drive like cowboys in their $50,000 pickups daring anyone to get in their way. Very low value on anything like literacy and yet there are some awesome artists in this little town.
Then that is such a shame
The North American way.
Capitalism baby! Whooo!
Astoria had the potential to be as big as san francisco or seattle, so glad it didn’t
She said, and I'm sure with a straight face, that no one had claimed the land yet. Un, hello 👋 how about the people who were already living there having claimed the land 🤷♀️
No mention of the Corps of Discovery? That's a major part of the history of the Astoria area.
This land was not unclaimed!!! There were people living there for thousands and thousands of years but I don't hear their names mentioned.
My theory is that many early North Americans were allowed through a Jesus ship portal into an incrementally different and separate dimension. Thus when planetary alignment occurs there will be a dimensional shift, and with the shift there will be a change in tension regarding the tensity of terms and the tension of life. As well there will be a true physical difference with the change. While certain ailments will be lifted, basic transportation will be altered on a grand scale. The trucking industry will be most noticeably affected before and after the shift. The entire style of transport will change. And with the current style of automobile, they simply won't be able to get enough traction to get up hills. Keep the faith up that there is a God that loves you no matter what happens. And remember that Man doesn't have a cure. But Mankind can accept the love of Jesus and then you will accept one's true wealth the wealth that is yet to behold, and is the energy possible which replaces the lower form of currency. The scenic view will change dramatically fast as will the true spirits of north America that will be seen for the first time from non tribal members.