The real price difference is much greater if you factor in that you can get the original Ally on sale brand new for about $500, or an open box for probably $400 or less even. On the other hand, the new Ally X is $800 brand new, and probably not as easy to get on sale or open box right now. The Ally X is in a weird spot, because it is a good device but it doesn't have a better CPU in it so it's basically still the same except for a longer battery life. I think it's not worth upgrading from the original to the X, but if you have not bought the original before, then maybe getting an X is an ok option if it's on sale only. The thing is, the Ally X is just a refresh, and it will be surpassed quickly in the market by competitors, and eventually by the next-gen Ally 3 or whatever it will be called, which will undoubtedly feature a real upgrade in power from a better CPU and hopefully a better iGPU than then 780m. These handheld PC's will have incredible efficiency and battery life in the next generation, although I do think the Ally X will remain the best on the market at least for a little while. Is it the best price to performance though? No, that still belongs to the original Ally, on sale or open box.
The dame could be said about the Steam Deck Oled and yet many people upgraded from their originals. This is arguably a better revision in my opinion over th2 original compared to the Steamdeck. Yes, it has Oled but the Ally is the only system in the market with a VRR screen. For me, double the storage, double the battery and more, faster memory is an easy choice for me to upgrade. I can't wait for my preorder to arrive.
@@MarkVelasquez-t3v The thing here is trust. I would trust valve much more than Asus. I had so many Asus products fail. Luckely in the EU you got a 2 year warranty by law. But it has been hands down the manufacturer with most tech stuff that I had to return. For valve it has been great in supporting their devices and my experiences at least were very positive. So it's actually more about a feeling than real facts, other than that, I agree with you 100%.
@@samvieten_official Honestly, there may be new chipsets announced and all, but until there's a product that combines the form factor of the Ally X, its battery and storage at that price point with the new chipsets, the Ally X will not be outdated. Especially as game developers who want to tackle the handheld market still aim at the Steam Deck's specs as the baseline.
Still way to much, and the nromal Ally is much cheaper, also people have to watch out on the Warranty which they will ask for money when it suppose to eb covered. If you really want thsi wait on a sale, or get a Steam Deck if you rather save money.
I don't like the location of those usb ports, right infront of the heat exhaust vents. We know how much heat the original Ally gives off. So having your power lead going over that exhaust vent surely can't be good? Won't it end up with overheating the charging cable or even the actual charging port? At least on the original Ally, the usb port is in the center, between those 2 heat exhausts.
CPU Speed. 8 x 3.5GHz PS5 Vs. 8 x 3.3GHz Asus makes the PS5 to win with 6.06% faster CPU Speed Framerates for games always seem better on my Ally vs my series S. Textures seem about even (I have my GPU memory set to auto so that I can get 8gbs if I need )
Gizmo when we can tell this ram boost is real upgrade? Do You will test ex 6GB vram on Ally and 8GB vram on Ally X in AAA games?? For now since 2 weeks we got nothing but pr BS... We need facts about real differences not 2-5% performance gain because this will be nothing... If You can provide value data like You do with laptops it will be awesome Man.
The X is not $100 more. The price of the original Z1E model recently dropped to $550 brand new. So it’s a $250 difference if you were to buy either model right now.
I believe that is a temporary sale, not a permanent price reduction. That said, at $250 difference, it would be more difficult to decide which way to go. I'd still probably go Ally X for double battery size and 24 GB of RAM--very significant long term usability improvements there.
So far no unless they come out with some sort of adapter thats why am not buying this shit lol and if all this thing has is more ram and a battery thats not a massive upgrade. We need to see real world performance on games. You can modified rog ally z1 extreme with a bigger battery and 32gb of ram also.
I assume hes referring to the mid model, the Z1 Extreme, which is $699. So that's why he's saying $100 more. The base model, Z1, is $499 at Best Buy. So that's $300 more. The Z1 Extreme gives you the same performance as the $700 Z1 X. So you have to decide if the extra battery life and extra ram is with worth another $100.
@@donebk The gpu bottlenecks the cpu leading to frequent fps drops and instability. On top of that, the battery is still abysmal. The original ally lasts 1 hour and 50 minutes in demanding games, and this one will not even make it to 2 hours
I am getting old, ever since I got used to my 8.8" Go, I can't go back to anything smaller, I am ready to sell my Steam Deck. Ordered my X1 8840U from 1xp 10.95", see if I might sell my Go as well. With 7", even if you give me 999Wh, I won't be able to see the details.
As much as I would love a bigger screen (particularly due to the Ally's big bezels!) I feel like any device with the Legion Go's screen size is just too big for me to even consider taking it with me everywhere I go in my backpack.
Silly thay joystick and not unattached, i dont play this console like that i plat with glasses, and i dont want to hold whole console in the hands. So Legion go or no deal.
Why would anyone would buy these with the 890m on the horizon? It has 16 CUs, RDNA 3+, and a faster CPU. Makes zero sense to buy these now instead of waiting a few months.
The 890m devices are probably gonna be a a lot more expensive than $700-$800, the battery probably won't be as good because it will be more powerful. Whatever device the 890m will be in will probably be bigger for more cooling, and may have louder fan noise.
Canada - Rog Ally on sale for 700. Open box 600. Rog Ally X? 1100 pre order. Seems like a no brainer
The real price difference is much greater if you factor in that you can get the original Ally on sale brand new for about $500, or an open box for probably $400 or less even. On the other hand, the new Ally X is $800 brand new, and probably not as easy to get on sale or open box right now. The Ally X is in a weird spot, because it is a good device but it doesn't have a better CPU in it so it's basically still the same except for a longer battery life. I think it's not worth upgrading from the original to the X, but if you have not bought the original before, then maybe getting an X is an ok option if it's on sale only. The thing is, the Ally X is just a refresh, and it will be surpassed quickly in the market by competitors, and eventually by the next-gen Ally 3 or whatever it will be called, which will undoubtedly feature a real upgrade in power from a better CPU and hopefully a better iGPU than then 780m. These handheld PC's will have incredible efficiency and battery life in the next generation, although I do think the Ally X will remain the best on the market at least for a little while. Is it the best price to performance though? No, that still belongs to the original Ally, on sale or open box.
The dame could be said about the Steam Deck Oled and yet many people upgraded from their originals. This is arguably a better revision in my opinion over th2 original compared to the Steamdeck. Yes, it has Oled but the Ally is the only system in the market with a VRR screen. For me, double the storage, double the battery and more, faster memory is an easy choice for me to upgrade. I can't wait for my preorder to arrive.
It's already way outdated if you look at the new integrated graphics, AMD just revealed a week ago.
@@MarkVelasquez-t3v The thing here is trust. I would trust valve much more than Asus. I had so many Asus products fail. Luckely in the EU you got a 2 year warranty by law. But it has been hands down the manufacturer with most tech stuff that I had to return.
For valve it has been great in supporting their devices and my experiences at least were very positive.
So it's actually more about a feeling than real facts, other than that, I agree with you 100%.
@@samvieten_official sure, and we won't see handhelds with said chipsets for another year or so 🤷♂️
@@samvieten_official Honestly, there may be new chipsets announced and all, but until there's a product that combines the form factor of the Ally X, its battery and storage at that price point with the new chipsets, the Ally X will not be outdated. Especially as game developers who want to tackle the handheld market still aim at the Steam Deck's specs as the baseline.
$385 open box $350 locally for a basically new Ally makes it a hard sell
I have bought two Ally’s from Best Buy. 599 each time for the extreme. I thought the X is 799.
Its actually 200usd diffrence with the discount now
I dont like that its only offered in black, i thought the white really made it stand out
Still way to much, and the nromal Ally is much cheaper, also people have to watch out on the Warranty which they will ask for money when it suppose to eb covered. If you really want thsi wait on a sale, or get a Steam Deck if you rather save money.
I don't like the location of those usb ports, right infront of the heat exhaust vents.
We know how much heat the original Ally gives off. So having your power lead going over that exhaust vent surely can't be good?
Won't it end up with overheating the charging cable or even the actual charging port?
At least on the original Ally, the usb port is in the center, between those 2 heat exhausts.
Is it 100.00 difference or 200.00 difference since you keep mixing up the two? Did you even pre watch your video??
In México the original Rog Ally is in 450 dolar in Amazon. I think Im gonna get me one.
Seriously tho. Would either make an equivalent to an Xbox SX/ PS5?
CPU Speed. 8 x 3.5GHz PS5 Vs. 8 x 3.3GHz Asus makes the PS5 to win with 6.06% faster CPU Speed
Framerates for games always seem better on my Ally vs my series S. Textures seem about even (I have my GPU memory set to auto so that I can get 8gbs if I need )
Gizmo when we can tell this ram boost is real upgrade? Do You will test ex 6GB vram on Ally and 8GB vram on Ally X in AAA games?? For now since 2 weeks we got nothing but pr BS... We need facts about real differences not 2-5% performance gain because this will be nothing... If You can provide value data like You do with laptops it will be awesome Man.
He can't right it's not out yet
Its 500$ more expensive here, should i consider the ally?
I might buy the minisforum V3 instead
$100 more ? more like $300 more
from the UAE here, where the ally is available for 460 USD on amazon, vs 870usd from asus for preorder. would you suggest the ally x in this case?
Definitely not
no oled
Not needed. This device has a beautiful screen
oled = no vrr
no vrr = TRASH
no oled = good
until these oled screens have vrr, it's a no brainer
The X is not $100 more. The price of the original Z1E model recently dropped to $550 brand new. So it’s a $250 difference if you were to buy either model right now.
I believe that is a temporary sale, not a permanent price reduction. That said, at $250 difference, it would be more difficult to decide which way to go. I'd still probably go Ally X for double battery size and 24 GB of RAM--very significant long term usability improvements there.
Buddy they got people literally doing the ram mod buying power banks, hollaeffect joysticks, spending crazy amount of money. So this is a no brainer
@@miguelangelramos7709 That's not even including extra storage that people are buying for the original ally.
Retailers already bumped up Rog Ally to about £600
Sale was temporary, but you can get second hand ones cheaper.
@@Saif0412it’s still $550 on the Best Buy website
3:10 someone clip that part...
Got a pretty much new ally at 450 at best buy
I need to know if the XG Mobile will be compatible somehow
So far no unless they come out with some sort of adapter thats why am not buying this shit lol and if all this thing has is more ram and a battery thats not a massive upgrade. We need to see real world performance on games. You can modified rog ally z1 extreme with a bigger battery and 32gb of ram also.
I assume hes referring to the mid model, the Z1 Extreme, which is $699. So that's why he's saying $100 more. The base model, Z1, is $499 at Best Buy. So that's $300 more. The Z1 Extreme gives you the same performance as the $700 Z1 X. So you have to decide if the extra battery life and extra ram is with worth another $100.
It's not only 100$ more. Anywhere you buy the price difference will be around 200-300$. Bad title...
So you can get 2 used original models for the price of a new one. You can sacrifice optimal battery life for playing with a friend.
I feel like the ally x might be worth it in the long run
Just wait till the next one comes out where the upgrade is really worth it
Don't get it.
@@TNDandTMD why
@@donebk The gpu bottlenecks the cpu leading to frequent fps drops and instability. On top of that, the battery is still abysmal. The original ally lasts 1 hour and 50 minutes in demanding games, and this one will not even make it to 2 hours
@@TNDandTMDi will have Z1 Extreme soon,is it okay?
I mean does it has the same problem like you mentioned
I won my Ally in a contest and upgraded the SSD to 2 TB for less than 100 so I'll stick with what I got lol.
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I am getting old, ever since I got used to my 8.8" Go, I can't go back to anything smaller, I am ready to sell my Steam Deck. Ordered my X1 8840U from 1xp 10.95", see if I might sell my Go as well. With 7", even if you give me 999Wh, I won't be able to see the details.
I got a Zenbook 14 8840hs to replace my Ally. It works for me much better while still being more powerful and better battery life.
As much as I would love a bigger screen (particularly due to the Ally's big bezels!) I feel like any device with the Legion Go's screen size is just too big for me to even consider taking it with me everywhere I go in my backpack.
Silly thay joystick and not unattached, i dont play this console like that i plat with glasses, and i dont want to hold whole console in the hands. So Legion go or no deal.
Why would anyone would buy these with the 890m on the horizon? It has 16 CUs, RDNA 3+, and a faster CPU. Makes zero sense to buy these now instead of waiting a few months.
The 890m devices are probably gonna be a a lot more expensive than $700-$800, the battery probably won't be as good because it will be more powerful. Whatever device the 890m will be in will probably be bigger for more cooling, and may have louder fan noise.
Given the specs it's for laptops not handheld and if someone does use it Inna handheld then we're back to 1 hour battery life lol
@@agent47isn1hx 370 has the same power range as 8945hs. 15-54w
@@agent47isn1Bro the ally x will have an hour and 40 minutes battery at most as it is lmao
@@TNDandTMD more like 2 hours and 40 lol