@@ajitd1521 The size and thrust of the Williams engine is made to fit in the plane. It would be impossible to replace it with our homegrown HF25 engine. The power difference is quite much. Also, I am sure Tata don't want to spend more money on re-engineering an already very well performing jet.
@xaviqaz well eurocopter was 2 firms before MBB ( messerschmitt bölkow blohm) which produced the famous Bo 105 and BK 117 which further developed ended in the EC 145. and aerospatiale french firm known for the alouette 1-3
First plane was built in India, was flown near Mumbai in 1895. the whole concept was stolen by an american company and the man who built was eventually killed after some time. then that design went to lot of companies and people in US. but no one could built the exact same as that plane was wireless and ran on "mercury vortex engine" which no could even built today
Kann mir jemand helfen mit einem Zweifel? Wurde, weil diese Wabengewebe und nicht Kohlefaser verwendet? Gibt es einen technischen Vorteil mit diesem Material?
Well ... Bring this jet to Oshkosh and SunNFun Flyin in Lakeland FL...let people see and bee the judge...if u have good product,people will buy it for sure :)
Alguem pode me ajudar com uma duvida? Porque foi usado este tecido favo-de-mel e nao fibra de carbono? existe alguma vantagem tecnica utilizando este material?
+Leo ybrv Foram usados os 2 combinados - o chamado carbon fiber composite, e juntos aumentam a rigidez, pois apenas a fibra de carbono, apesar de leve, fica muito maleável e frágil.
I disagree. Producing expensive premium cars is what will save jobs and production in Germany. You produce almost 6 million units a year, half of which are BMW, Audi, Mercedes and Porsche. European countries that mostly produce small cars will have to shut down several factories.
+Leo ybrv Honeycomb is used in combination with carbon fibres to build a so called "sandwich" structure. this is more stiff than a pure fibre shell whilst the core adds only a little bit more weight. in the video the fibres are missing in the shell. what you can see is the honeycomb layed in the mould for demonstration...
jet engine was invented in Germany and not in Britain.. Dr. Hans von Ohain was the inventor before Frank Whittle and his engine with multiple compressor is the one used in almost all engines today ..Frank Whittles single compressor engine in long history..
@spirarassssssss Long before ww2 - in 18th century the USA - nation of immigrants - had to vote for a common official language. German lost against English with a few per cent only!
carbon fibre cant hold its wealth creation like lithium metal alloy can so the economy is useless and one scratch and your grounded plus resale value falls like the space shuttle and so your not realy getting value for money with these miracle fibres as well the new 130 nose spar swivel angle rule and the lift centroid creation forward of the c/g is absolutely esentual to know or else you have a divergent aircraft under high stress modulus rules .. give me metal any time .. skeatesy
I am an Engineer who worked with Porsche and did airbags for all of Europe. Interned at Porsche. Father was a Professor of economics. Cipfalco has is right. I found that a Mercedes engineer was worse than a GM engineer. The only engineers that were "good" were Porsche's. Their Mooney airplane engine was a total failure. Yes, German are very arrogant und Ich kann Deutsch...
about Indian contribution ? u have no idea bro. you might wana study some history books about the plastic surgery's invention, body surgery etc etc. ancient Indians did all that. about this plane design it was flown in 1895 chaupati beach near Bombay. the reason they couldn't preserve the records is bcoz British were ruling that time. people were killed, slaved, tortured brutally. so pay them some respect. if India didn't have knowledge then why all ancient universities in India were burned ?
first thing only say when u know. u said wrights invented first thing airplane wasn't invented, it was made. second if u have any knowledge, Brazilians made airplane before wrights. you can find numerous records of flights before wrights. FYI the aerodynamics of wright plane is considered as worst that's why they couldn't fly their design. it was just a design not a flying aircraft. if these kind of designs are first aircrafts then u might wana go back to 300 BC bcoz attempts were done then too
If you want performance you need new aerodynamics and engines. Nothing really new here. Just more expensive chariots for the elite. Nothing cost effective. Nothing useful on a daily basis, just more mindless use of a material on old designs. Time to move on. What is possible? 2 cents/mile with four people, roadable door to door. No more hired pilot. All this carbon stuff is very expensive. Can't see out, hard to fix and on and on. Useful? No.
Here after the news of Tata acquiring the IPR of this lovely jet!
Love from India.
Hey what is the newest scam love from india ,
Hallo irs officer
Is tata also aquire engine tech of this jet?
@@ajitd1521 No, no. It uses a Williams jet engine.
@@AbhiKohli so they used htap enginr og Hal
@@ajitd1521 The size and thrust of the Williams engine is made to fit in the plane. It would be impossible to replace it with our homegrown HF25 engine. The power difference is quite much. Also, I am sure Tata don't want to spend more money on re-engineering an already very well performing jet.
Congratulations *TATA* for buying #Grob now we can make military aircraft from these technology.🤟
Is tata also aquire engine tech of this jet?
@@ajitd1521 yes..
doesnt matter...born or made...well i feel like planes has their own heart and soul..lol
I am Indian...
Genramy is known for high quality work...Siemens was most respected employer of our time...
nice, but i used a heatcon, witchitech hot bonder, vaacuun tools, autoclav,, in addition to... the famous two simple tools
@xaviqaz well eurocopter was 2 firms before MBB ( messerschmitt bölkow blohm) which produced the famous Bo 105 and BK 117 which further developed ended in the EC 145. and aerospatiale french firm known for the alouette 1-3
First plane was built in India, was flown near Mumbai in 1895. the whole concept was stolen by an american company and the man who built was eventually killed after some time. then that design went to lot of companies and people in US. but no one could built the exact same as that plane was wireless and ran on "mercury vortex engine" which no could even built today
Nope, First jet-propelled aircraft ever built is from the Romanian engeneer Henri Coandă.
First flight on 16 December 1910
12 years ago
Kann mir jemand helfen mit einem Zweifel? Wurde, weil diese Wabengewebe und nicht Kohlefaser verwendet? Gibt es einen technischen Vorteil mit diesem Material?
Well ... Bring this jet to Oshkosh and SunNFun Flyin in Lakeland FL...let people see and bee the judge...if u have good product,people will buy it for sure :)
Does enybody knows about baking of fiber glass process? any temperatures of cooking time vacum or high presure inside and type of gass inside?
wrights was good because they could controll the flying
At least we share our admiraton for RONALD REAGAN, one of the greatest Presidents of America.
Sold to Tata India
Alguem pode me ajudar com uma duvida? Porque foi usado este tecido favo-de-mel e nao fibra de carbono? existe alguma vantagem tecnica utilizando este material?
+Leo ybrv Foram usados os 2 combinados - o chamado carbon fiber composite, e juntos aumentam a rigidez, pois apenas a fibra de carbono, apesar de leve, fica muito maleável e frágil.
Now it will be made in india 😀
I disagree. Producing expensive premium cars is what will save jobs and production in Germany. You produce almost 6 million units a year, half of which are BMW, Audi, Mercedes and Porsche. European countries that mostly produce small cars will have to shut down several factories.
Designed In Germany
Made In India 🇮🇳
The indians are doing great job with carbon fiber built fighter jets without LTI.
Rajasingam Muthusamy they aren't indian
Rajasingam Muthusamy lti means
Can anyone help me with a doubt? Was used because this honey-comb tissue and not carbon fiber? Is there any technical advantage using this material?
Honey-comb material is a complimentary material to Carbon Fiber.
+Leo ybrv Honeycomb is used in combination with carbon fibres to build a so called "sandwich" structure. this is more stiff than a pure fibre shell whilst the core adds only a little bit more weight. in the video the fibres are missing in the shell. what you can see is the honeycomb layed in the mould for demonstration...
+Erik Seymour I don't know about this case, but for aircraft fittings (seats, console, galley) it's made out of .... cardboard.
+Erik Seymour its phenolic or aramid honeycomb....sometimes aluminium honeycomb is used but galvanic protection required between carbon and aluminium
+Nicole K it's paper I just had a 3 week school at the factory for the new g120tp.
Did you visit manufacturers.co ?
In my language (bulgarian)grob means grave...😀interesting name for plane for clients here
Also in Polish too ))) in Russian it means coffin :/ lucky name ^^
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Textile technology
jet engine was invented in Germany and not in Britain..
Dr. Hans von Ohain was the inventor before Frank Whittle and his engine with multiple compressor is the one used in almost all engines today ..Frank Whittles single compressor engine in long history..
Dont Forget the first Airplane Was Born in The United States!!
German Engineering. Nothing comes close!
India is in search of new composite from coconut and other palm trees.
Not the jet plane. The first jet driven aircraft was German.
GROB- (coffin,casket, hearse, shell) in Russian :)
@spirarassssssss
Long before ww2 - in 18th century the USA - nation of immigrants - had to vote for a common official language.
German lost against English with a few per cent only!
This airplane crashed, killing the pilot.
@zass015 Good then you can also admire the *Jewish* german watch makers who preceded the so-called german technologists.
carbon fibre cant hold its wealth creation like lithium metal alloy can so the economy is useless and one scratch and your grounded plus resale value falls like the space shuttle and so your not realy getting value for money with these miracle fibres as well the new 130 nose spar swivel angle rule and the lift centroid creation forward of the c/g is absolutely esentual to know or else you have a divergent aircraft under high stress modulus rules .. give me metal any time .. skeatesy
I am an Engineer who worked with Porsche and did airbags for all of Europe. Interned at Porsche.
Father was a Professor of economics.
Cipfalco has is right. I found that a Mercedes engineer was worse than a GM engineer. The only engineers that were "good" were Porsche's. Their Mooney airplane engine was a total failure.
Yes, German are very arrogant und Ich kann Deutsch...
about Indian contribution ? u have no idea bro. you might wana study some history books about the plastic surgery's invention, body surgery etc etc. ancient Indians did all that. about this plane design it was flown in 1895 chaupati beach near Bombay. the reason they couldn't preserve the records is bcoz British were ruling that time. people were killed, slaved, tortured brutally. so pay them some respect. if India didn't have knowledge then why all ancient universities in India were burned ?
first thing only say when u know. u said wrights invented first thing airplane wasn't invented, it was made. second if u have any knowledge, Brazilians made airplane before wrights. you can find numerous records of flights before wrights. FYI the aerodynamics of wright plane is considered as worst that's why they couldn't fly their design. it was just a design not a flying aircraft. if these kind of designs are first aircrafts then u might wana go back to 300 BC bcoz attempts were done then too
Rahul Chawla an da vinci did it on paper before them all.
Just stahp.
„Records“
Nice plane but not nice enough. Company went bankrupt. Bad timing maybe
Company is still operating.
Purchased by Tata India
war reparations
Not a good idea
If you want performance you need new aerodynamics and engines. Nothing really new here. Just more expensive chariots for the elite. Nothing cost effective. Nothing useful on a daily basis, just more mindless use of a material on old designs. Time to move on.
What is possible? 2 cents/mile with four people, roadable door to door. No more hired pilot. All this carbon stuff is very expensive. Can't see out, hard to fix and on and on. Useful? No.