Why Meruem Vs The Deep Sea King isn't Close
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Meruem's attacks had destroyed a hill which more than enough to vaporize Deep sea king
Do madara vs someone who’s kind equal to him in OPM
Regarding the "dodging bullet=faster than sound argument" how do you know what caliber is being used, since there are also bullets that are as slow as 50 mph?
SF smack netero
It's crazy that someone as powerful as Muruem would just be considered a demon level threat in OPM, really makes you realise how strong the verse is lmao.
Nah he is low dragon at least
Meruem after rebirth can easily be Dragon level. I mean, Bakuzan was Dragon level and he wasn't more impressive than Meruem before rebirth.
Bakuzan's flurry of punches were enough to severely beat up Suiryu who's feats put him at a much lower level than even Netero. Netero's Hatsu (100 hand buddha) is similar to Bakuzans flurry of punches, but maybe even stronger (since it punched through layers of ground and sand, eventually breaking into a tomb down below.
While in Bakuzan's case, he barely did any damage to the ground that he was punching. And Meruem easily tanked all of Netero's (buddha) punches with barely any damage. Meaning that Meruem could defeat the low Dragon Bakuzan.
But an argument can also be made for DSK in that he was naturally from the deep sea, so that would mean that in the sea, he could have also been a dragon level.
Not really, HXH is just a weak verse.
@@GuyLogen Bakuzan has literally no feats tho? Suriyu might be on the level of some weaker s class hero's, and you see how DSK just destoyed puri, and he's only demon level. Bakuzan was toying with Suriyu, he is a martial artist and wanted to show him how much stronger he is then Suriyu. Atherwise he could have just one shot him if he wanted too. And instantly after that Bakuzan fought saitama, and we all know how that ended for him. Mereum is definitly not dragon level.
@@hollow3450 I doubt that Bakuzan could have one-shot Suiryu. He wanted to make Suiryu suffer and humiliate him sure, but he was still aggressively jumping and pounding on him without seemingly withholding anything.
He thought he was the shit until Gouketsu in one punch blew out part of the stadium they were in, which humbled Bakuzan.
Yet he was still classified as a dragon level. When comparing Meruem and Suiryu, it would be foolish to say that Suiryu has better durability than Meruem. Meruem easily tanked Netero's flurry of Buddha punches with no visible damage. He even tanked a concentrated nen blast with only a few scratches. So I think Meruem could rank as a low Dragon easily.
For the record, I think Bakuzan loses to Netero as well.
I like how every “not even close” video has a statement like “this was tough because each has evidence that can beat the other”
If that statement came out, that means it's a good matchup
its a really close matchup tbh idk why he named it this
It’s a attention grab title
because these types of titles get clicks
@@CrownedZayne exactly
Beeing a threat to all of humanity is scary and all, but it also heavily depends of humanitys power level in that world.
Even if meruem beats dsk with ease, he would be folded by king!
Or the infamous mosquito. 😆
Just know they are comparing a baby to a being that was alive for probably hundreds of years.
@@lenatunji how is that relevant?
@@hulmhochberg8129 He said that Deep Sea King can beat the HxH verse when there are limitless beings and as I said, Meruem was only a baby.
@@lenatunji and as i said "how is that relevant?" How does this effect or change anything I or the op said?
Meruem: I am king.
DSK: No I am king!
???: Pathetic.
Meruem + DSK: What?
King: I said, pathetic.
Thump thump thump
King: *Reading about a delay for the next dating sim game* "Pathetic..."
DSK: "Th-the King Engine!?"
Meruem: "I can't sense this human's aura. But I can still feel his presence...Whoever this human is, he's clearly a Nen Master. No...he's far greater than that. Prodigy doesn't begin to describe this overwhelming sense of dread! A fear my species hasn't faced since...the Dark Continent?!"
*King was talking about himself
As mereum looks at kings poker face and hears his heart thumping mereums brain short circuits from thinking 😅. Because mereum is a philosopher king.
@@snapeinvader6208
King (speaking to himself as he plays a game he isn't enjoying) : "You might want to reconsider how you spend your time."
Meruem : "H-How did he know about my playing abit."
Now imagine Deep Sea King if he was fighting underwater. Always hydrated and quite literally in his element.
he’s probably like a dragon in the water
dragon level monster that can beat like 50% of the S class
Dragon
It would probably put him at the level of the cadres of the monster association.
Nah, that's too much@@Cipher_Paul
Crossverse matchups with Hxh are very rare, I'm glad you uploaded one
That’s because that verse is just so weak, it’s with attack on titan as the weakest verses
@@wisdomplaysbtd6144hxh is far stronger than attack on titan verse. Many characters has town level ap.
@@berkaytastan6032 there are a ton of characters in aot that are town level
@@wisdomplaysbtd6144 Isn't Eren multi city block level?
@@berkaytastan6032 I wasn’t talking about Eren, and no, Eren is more than multi city block level
Genos was able to destroy a mountain tip when he blow the tower of the house of evolution and he get two more upgrades after that before facing the deep sea king
genos was holding back when fighting DSK
there were innocent ppl nearby so he didn't want to hurt them
@@indirectinsult
That is an excellent point, one which I don't often see brought up in versus debates between blast-capable characters.
Not every blast they throw packs their full destructive power, if it did then the further up the power scale you go the more likely they would be to blow the planet out from under themselves by accident.
Another thing to consider is _what_ they're throwing around.
Deep Sea King's biggest advantage is his regen ability, fire and physical force could hurt him, but couldn't deal lasting damage at the intensity Genos was using. Basic Nen attacks on the other hand can rip unprotected bodies to pieces from the inside and cause crippling agony that lasts for hours, and the Deep Sea king didn't show any form of energy control skills that I can recall which means that he's likely wide open.
@@matthewbreytenbach4483 yeah i was surprised seeing people actually think this was a good matchup
my main concern is speed because rain DSK was surpassed by Sonic's speed which is, yk, the speed of sound mostly but Pitou, as soon as she was born, was able to reach mach 1(jumping 2km in a couple seconds)
meruem should be higher than her in just about every regard, even more so Post-Rose
so i just don't think there's much of a matchup when including the hax of Meruem
@@indirectinsult
Yeah no, Pre-Rose Meruem could fight at a way higher level of speed than what Sonic displayed in his fight with DSK. (at least in the anime versions)
you didn't even watch the video, sonic is way faster than the speed of sound, he is at the very least mach 5@@indirectinsult
What's crazy is meruem isn't even 3 months old. Imagine what kind of insane things he would have been able to do had he worked on this nene abilities diligently
He's a poor man's cell
He could have but choose not to. Either he didn’t think he needed it or it was innate to him in the form of a durability, str, or speed amp.
@@Napoleonic_SCell’s perfect form comes from Meruem right?
@@khulmach9662 ???
@khulmach9662 what is blud waffling about, cell is years older.
Ok, my take before you watching the video.
If it's Pre-Rose Bomb Meruem, then probably Deep Sea King probably wins.
If it's Post-Rose Bomb Meruem, then Meruem just fucking nukes.
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Oh shit, I was spot on.
I disagree with some of the scaling, but that's bound to happen when comparing characters from different series. Overall it was pretty good.
@@cipher6601Really now? I haven’t gotten to watch it all yet but my prediction is that deep sea king bodies both rounds, hydrated or unhydrated
@@anhthai7005strong take
I think referring to Meruem walking past Netero and Zeno as a feat is a mistake. That wasn't due to any speed or skill on Meruem's part. Zeno and Netero were so shocked by seeing Netero caring for a human that they let their guard down and forgot how dangerous he was. He didn't blitz them. He just walked past them normally.
It was both.
@@neochris2 No, he literally just did not care about them
@@user-vn9vf4mf3gthe narrator straight up stated it was both fear and admiration for the monster that the king was and that they also didn't expect him to be kind.
It's literally both
@@DanteStetyick But seriously, he just didn't care about the fight.
@@DanteStetyick The narrator also said they let Meruem go without doing anything to him out of respect for him trying to save a human life. This isn't a "feat", just him prioritizing somebody else before him.
I really like that this video considers author's intent and story significance, something what way too many people ignore when scaling characters
True
If Meruem was allowed to exist for more than like a few weeks, I’m sure he would have scaled to be an insanely dangerous foe.
Togashi has said that aints are born at their height already, so they would not evolve more.
@@TheWarrekthing is when meruem eats you he gains your power
only nen users.@@Aaaaaa-dr4pk
@@Aaaaaa-dr4pkthat doesn't mean shxt 😂 Human evolution is better
@@jonathandeza7718 and yet he was gonna make human evolution his bitch
HxH just does such an amazing job at showing how powerful characters are that even very obvious match ups with characters from HxH often make me think. I think that's why people often consider characters from hxh to be god level threats that scale to the Naruto or DBZ or OMP or whatever verse, since they are just so menacing and intimidating.
Agreed
@@YacineScalesI got a feeling you are too biased and you're downplaying Hunter x Hunter this video is straight-up BS I smell it already
@@cjcj4861 further proof of my point lmao
@@tripik426 what the fuck are you saying
I don't see those people buffin hxh characters to god level power, I'll keep searching
I’d argue that Deep Sea Kings durability could possibly be way higher than Meruems. Remember that deep sea king in his dry form, was relative to Genos. The same Genos who (even before his upgrade post Carnage Kabuto) was able to completely destroy a tower with arm canon blast and output a blast that cleared out mosquitos in multiple city blocks. Deep Sea King then goes on to fight an upgraded Genos who takes punches and blasts from him that barely put a scratch on him and/or regenerates from them. And he only grows in power in his true form
I'do also argue that Meruem durability is way WAY higher than Deep Sea King by one random squadron ant feat, Killua took an explosion to the face worth 1.400 Tons of TNT which its scales higher than that Genos and Hammerhead followers feats 💀
yeah dawg but a nuke is way stronger than just some arm canon blast, A nuke evaporates islands, and thats what it took to bring meruem down, so I would definitely easily say that Meruem's durability is higher than Deep sea kings durability.
I also think that deep sea king wouldnt be able to withstand a nuke just because one, it would be super hot, and it would literally evaporate any form of moisture in him, weakening him, and eventually evaporating deep sea king.
@@jujumaps2213 Even with the nuke Meruem's core was still there, though he was obviously out for the count, so durability Meruem>DSK
It took a nuke to defeat Meruem, and even then he wasn't fully evaporated. Plus he got revived to be even stronger than his previous form. I just don't see DSK surviving a nuke or even half of a nuke. But then again, it took 1 punch from saitama, which was capable of clearing the rain from the perceivable city, to kill DSK in his "rain form".
This is all not even considering just how powerful DSK could get underwater. You could make an argument that DSK underwater is probably easily Dragon level and would be able to defeat Meruem, considering that DSK can also regenerate.
His regeneration under light rain was great enough to heal a blasted cheek from Genos which blew a large hole through multiple apartment buildings.
You could also consider the deep sea king retreating to the sea for a stat and regen amp, he gained a lot from being rained on, so he would gain much more from being in there if our at a disadvantage. But he would only be forced to retreat to the sea against maybe merged meruem.
Ah yes, this is what I like to hear, a possibly even more powerful deep sea king form
That's true. Only the rain was touching him and he became vastly more powerful. Imagine deep in the ocean where there's water in every nook and cranny with much higher water pressure
@@RIP_ZYZZ1738I think it's better to NOT imagine that
@@cannibalman8175btw he is a fish and their main biology is swimming which means he is way FASTER in the ocean than the rain amp
DSK might lose only due to his pride.... numerous times he takes shots from the heroes as a way to break their morale, he'd undoubtedly try this with Meruem
Question is if any hit really can OHKO the DSK outside of Saitama's infinite and instant power... if you can't OHKO the DSK, then you lose
It was mentioned that Sonic could have killed DSK if he had his sword.
@@evanlight2550 was mentioned or did Sonic said so himself lol? He is pretentious himself so he could also speak without proof, and DSK could also just regenerate from his slashes.
@@evanlight2550sonic also thinks he can beat flashy flash 😂
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 ONE said If he had his swords then yes he would've killed him
@@evanlight2550 The only way I could see that working is with a decapitation.... anything else he'd easily regenerate from...
but it's quite likely that DSK might be more wary of bladed attacks since all the hits he takes head on are blunt strikes
I always thought that HxH is complicated In power scale and now I feel like HxH is not as strong as I thought
HxH doesn't want characters that can blow up planets since it makes the story silly.
HxH characters are weaker than most anime characters since Togashi had no desire to make characters so obserdly powerful.
@@outsourcedsanity Quite true im just saying here that I though some of HxH abilities can make it to dragon level but that was a few years ago
Characters don't need to be planet busters for the series to be good.
HxH interestingly explore more on tension and competition. The characters tend to be scary and threatening without necessarily making everyone planet busters
The fights are more strategetic and outplaying your opponent than stuff like dragonball where you get power ups from nowhere or invent a new technique after almost dying.
I think classifying Meruem so low is a little unfair, considering he never encountered a situation where he required to use anything more than his physical and mental capacities.
His Nen is a wildcard that, faced with a superior opponent not resorting to a super poison nuke he had no prior knowledge of, could have been utilised to create a Nen ability that would drastically boost his combat abilities or provide him hax to deal with others.
I'd argue Dragon level, especially if he got the chance to eat and utilise Monster Cells.
bro it's a straight fight. Who in their right mind would consider giving an amp from one universe to another. If Genos was defeated by Deep Sea King, a Demon Level Threat, then there is no way Mereum is Dragon Level. Genos literally got one shot by Gouketsu, a Dragon Level Threat.
that means that dsk could have the chance to learn and utilize nen if meruem is allowed monster cells
And what about the Deep Sea King? Since you're giving Meruem prep time and monster cells, I assume we can do the same for DSK right? In which case, the fight is still one-sided as hell. And his classification wasn't about what he could potentially become, but rather what he already was, so I really don't see what your point in this comment was.
@@vormiam9242 When did I say I was giving Meruem prep time? He's a genius who learns as he goes. If he was properly pushed he could have developed a Nen ability on the fly.
I only added the monster cells as an out-of-battle consideration for Meruem if he was simply placed in the OPM world, since the video discusses his potential class.
The difference between gaining Nen and monster cells is that 1) A Monster Cell is an available resource in the OPM universe, and at some point in the video they mentioned placing Meruem in the world of OPM.
2) Meruem's entire species is able to adopt beneficial traits from other species, and monster cells give beneficial traits to anyone that consumes them. Chances are it would happen.
3) Assuming DSK somehow got Nen, and accessed it, sure. He'd kick Meruem around even more than before. He wins in pure physical stats and thus a brawl, *assuming he didn't drag out fights like he tends to and give Meruem a chance to develop a Nen ability to even the playing field.*
@@vormiam9242 It would be like if the video said "Oh, what if Pilaf was actually placed in the world of Aladdin." and didn't acknowledge the idea he might find out about and try to use the lamp.
Reading the comments i could see that many people are creating their own circumstances so meruem ends up winning. I mean, i love him as much as the next guy, but i think a lot of people are kinda biased... Just my opinion tho
Even so, you can't say they are wrong, since hxh doesn't give enough info to say how powerful meruen is. IMO meruen is stronger than DSK, since I think Meruen can deliver stronger attacks than Uvogin, which had delivered strikes strong enough to create a creater several meters wide in solic rock.
@@senhox970 either deep sea king coz he wasnt in the sea so how do we even know his capabilities🤷♂️
@@silentlyanonymous306 But that only matters if you suppose the fights take place under water 🤷♂
because hxh fans toxic and stupid. Some from this section even talking about "Hisoka > Tatsumaki".
@@BeeruzChryslerbruhh he is a fishman and his powers glow exponentially underwater
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we have seen Nen being able to cripple a non-nen user and considering the versatility of Nen I think Meruem is at least dragon level threat since he can just put restrictions on his ability to gain immense power like Gon or kurapika
nen can literally bend the fabric of reality as can be seen from Basho's poem skill, all you need is an abundance of nen and a bit of creativity to cripple his opponent's vital abilities such as regeneration
Nen is truly horrifying, just look at Killua's sister...
Well than why didn't pokkle do the same to pike
Gotta keep in mind that even in "serious battle" meruem refused to go full power since he had NOT kill netero in order to learn his name.
To me that kinda means he was only at 50% power and still casually intentionally tanking tens of thousands of hits with 0 damage and his strength even unable to be used since it would instantly kill netero or destroy the arena etc
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Netero putting his hands together is not his nen ability, it’s a condition on his ability but as far as we’re aware he doesn’t use Nen to pray so fast
I don't think people realize that the OPM is a parody universe where the insane power scaling is graded on a curve set by Saitama.
If Mumen Rider was transferred to the HxH universe, he'd probably be able to 1 shot, or 1 bicycle, Meruem.
Its all depend of the writer, compare to caracter very different is hard. But meruem is way faster than a bike, so no way he can be hit for that 😂
Lol, i like this one 😂😂😂
What 😂
You can only be a threat to humanity if your as unstoppable as a god like saitama or cosmic fear garou those two are definitely god threat especially saitama with that fucking table flip
Love those videos.
Great job!
Great video, that blooper take at the end was hilarious.
I do think you're underestimating Meruem's speed by a huge margin though.
During the one minute long battle with Netero's Bodhisattva Guanyin he wasn't just standing in one spot and getting pummeled, both sides made thousands of plays in that minute.
I have no idea where that would put him on the Mach scale, but it should be at least above Sonic's level.
1:13 I think mereum was just being generous at this point, since Netero was just moving his arms, while mereu, was jumping from pillar to pillar to attack netero, so just imagin how fast was mereum moving to be able to outspeed netero.
Netero attacking Nefurpitou speed feat was calculated by Vs battle wiki to be Mach 275, and he said meruem was mach 9
yeah
Yeah he downplayed Meruem speed by downplaying Pitou's speed despite her showing a feat of mach 100 and saying stuff like "the author..." and nerfing Netero's speed at high hypersonic 💀
Also the calcs put Pre-Rose Meruem at 7-B (City level) and Post-Rose Meruem at 7-A (Mountain level) with speed at Massively Hypersonic+ while the calcs for DSK put them somewhere in 7-C (Town level) and his speed at high hypersonic
@@pedrogarabito8664 Nice.
@@pedrogarabito8664 most of the stuff you said is a highball, but i agree
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Lol the bloopers were great xD
The thing about HxH is that bullets really become something very irrelevant as soon as nen comes into play. Nen has so much different applications and abilities that for me, characters in HxH don't need to be as fast as ligthning to dodge and catch them. I think a good example of that is nobunaga. Nobunaga has never displayed any nen ability other than En, and he said and proved that anybody who would enter his En's range would be instantly killed. To me, when you start mastering nen in HxH, catching, dodging, destroying bullets etc becomes almost instinctive. Another argument I think is interesting is that some people are able to give clear orders to their nen, so, I'd say it's pretty easy from this to print into your instinct, at least when a nen ability is used, to dodge a bullet.
Not trying to argue with the end result of the versus, just wanted to extend on the bullet dodging, catching, etc in HxH
Very good point
Excellent analysis.
I do agree with post nuke Meruem winning, his speed is massively increased, that version of Meruem is by far the fastest character in HxH
I still think deep sea king would win his ap and dc just vastly outscale Meruem as well as his durability the only close one is speed and you could still easily argue Genos at that point was faster than meruem who got slapped by dsk too
Nah, post nuke easily destroyed a mountain, the energy itself would vaporise dsk.@@sens3i_boi348
Yeaaah but the only reason genos lost was because of that little girl he protected,genos probably would have won after a good long fight but meruems iq is very high not to mention he has photosynthesis and he could just eat a piece of him to gain his power strength speed and durability stacked on top of him post rose meruem definitely wins.@@sens3i_boi348
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Awesome video yacine love this crossover matchup but question what if Meruem & his royal guards in opm verse how much of Threat they would have been being born into the video
you know he is strong when his best strenght feat is hurting himself
i would say tho that it is stated that in less than a minute, Netero and Meruem traded hundreds of thousand of blows, and that is with Meruem bwing blown away each time, having to recover and leap back, i would say that this statement should re evaluate Netero and Meruem's speed by a good margin. But bypassing the DSK regen would indeed be very hard.
On a side note, catching a bullet requires reaction time around speed of sound, however that doesn't automatically mean you can also run at the speed of sound, ad even if you could, it would be probably tiring to do it for a long period of time, however we did see Cheetu doing that because it wasn't only his reaction time but also his movement speed to be at that level.
Great vid
great video brother
Also youpis explosion made a crater 121 meters wide, and 13 meters deep, and was scaled to Vs battle wiki being 467 Kiloton of TNT, which is Large Town level, and Hammerheads punch was scaled to be Multi-City Block by Vs battle wiki, so theres no comparison
yeah
7:49 Could simply be the difference between speed & reaction speed
cool format
love the video 🗿
also you're forgetting blatant context, Meruems goal wasn't to kill Netero, his goal was to learn his name which is why he calculated all of his attacking points to he could bounce back every time wait till netero messes up his pattern then take his limb. He took 1000 blows which left decent sized craters in the ground so 1000 of those in 1 minutes is atleast small town, if we're ignoring that we can also just say he sent pitou flying
I feel like there is one thing that people always forget about nen in the hunter x hunter universe when doing these kinds of comparison with other anime, and that is that you can basically only defend against nen by using nen yourself. If you can't at least use Ten, just being inside the aura of another person would be enough to cause some major psychological damage that would prevent you from fighting at your best. In fact, you would barely be able to approach that person due to the incredible pressure that they would exert. Taking a nen attack without defending with your own nen would immediately cause severe damage, regardless of your natural durability, especially if that attack was dealt with the intent to kill. Nen is a supernatural ability, and it shouldn't be considered just as a mere physical enhancement ability.
I’m not sure how true this could be my head canon is when hisoka did it he is actively projecting nen that non nen user can feel same with other characters except wing who I think his nen projection is a hastu because it seems to be able to awaken nen in people
@@simonservsuck6711 What Hisoka did was simply releasing his aura using Ren with malicious intent. It wasn't even an attack, it was just Gon and Killua basically standing in Hisoka's aura and just that was enough to paralyse them with fear to the point they couldn't even approach him and go past him in the corridor. Learning Ten was enough for them to be able to withstand that kind of pressure but I want to point out that even Ten might not be enough to withstand the incredible pressure of post bomb meruem's aura. Welfin is a nen user capable of using Ten, but when confronted with Meruem, his pressure was enough to cause not only severe psychological damage but also physical changes (lost of hair, rapid aging due to extreme stress).
that's all well an dandy but DSK is a monster things like that wouldn't scare him especially with strong foes he wasn't scared of saitama.
That still doesn't mean that he wouldn't be a threat in opm? There are various monsters with various skills and he simply does not stand a chance.
@BeeruzChrysler yea but has that worked on stronger people. Most of those who are skilled or powerful really don't need nen to beat those who have it only like the stronger ones. And I Ren isn't manipulation like the nen class it's just intimidation which the deep sea king is not victim to.
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I think we have to include the fact Meruem wasnt ever using more than basic techniques that everyone can do since he didnt need them. If he was forced to make abilities for the sake of winning the fight, he could win considering how much stronger nen abilities get with each restriction. (post rose Meruem i mean)
Genos’s punch is something that we probably have seen in hunter x hunter, as I’d say that Meruem blowing up the plateau was of similar effect\strength.
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Tbh, even if post rose meruem's AP scales to deep sea king arc genos, i'd still highly doubt that meruem would win against deep sea king. Even with genos's AP, deep sea king still only considers the damage genos put on him was "a scratch" meaning that he could survive against an even higher AP attacks. Meruem could win against deep sea king on a very specific circumstances and conditions, but other than that, deep sea king outlasts meruem and beats him out of the competition. Deep sea king wins 8/10 of the time.
And don't even think that meruem's wings would help him here. He can treat meruem the same way he treats sonic.
Meruem only used the very basic Nen abilities.
At no point in the series did Mereum develop his own true Nen ability.
When opposed by someone like DSK who is faster/stronger then its a high probability that Mereum would create an actual Nen ability to help him win the battle.
I see this as a no contest because HxH's Nen system is designed so that weaker characters can still defeat stronger characters through intelligent use of Nen.
And DSK isn't that much stronger/faster that Mereum's incredible intelligence and Nen use couldn't turn the tide.
So you’re relying on plot armour to get him to win. Meruem would die before he could develop his true Nen ability. Nothing Meruem has come up with can even put a dent in DSK
@@egbertmilton4003 meruems IQ is outmatched with that much battle iq idk if dsk will win man
Meruem never used Nen against Netero or cloaked himself against the blast of the bomb.
@@egbertmilton4003You’re comparing a guy who was alive for a few weeks to a guy who was alive for hundreds to thousands of years. Just remember that Egbert.
Meruem has a nen ability. The show explicitly told the Audience what it was and Meruem demonstrated that ability overtly. You're a common imbecile who didn't watch show.
But let me guess, you'll send me a message telling me you did watch HxH?
So either you didn't watch the show and typed this comment or you DID watch the show, but you're an imbecile? Only two options to choose from
HxH's concept of Nen is brilliant.
Do a sea king vs jinbae , that would be awesome 👌
Awakened cockroach would be HXH's one punch man
It seems like you only do one punch man match up I would love to see you do other anime as well
you should do metal bat vs sweet mask/ amai mask next. I wanna know if bat boi pounds his face into the ground
I think you massively underrated muruem here, if you noticed the fight between him and nitero you'll see he wasn't even trying to fight, he didn't want to fight, but when he decided to he easily defeated nitero with no difficulty, also he wasn't really given the chance to show his true power and his nen abilities and he wasn't pushed to his limit niether in speed nor in power and he was just playing until nitero used the rose bomb that meruem had no knowledge or understanding of. I'd say he would be at least dragon level, especially if he has time to properly train
Muruem and Nitero
At first i thought there's no way Muruem loses.
But I've woken up to reality.
Could you do
Monster cadre excluding psykos and orochi and sage centipede/evil natural ocean vs the 3 dark matter generals
Love the Bloopers😂
The real problem with Meruem in the OPM verse is that he would drastically increase in power if he defeats even one enemy and eats them. The Chimera ants are scary because they can grow based on the verse they land in and adapt to it's power level and beyond.
Wrong, the adaptation goes to the next generation. Not to the individual that eats the prey…
@@lucasmatsuoca True for chimera ants as a whole but the king was different. Meruem gains abilities from the people or creatures he eats as soon as he does it.
Really? I mean, i know he gained abilities from his guards, but i'm not sure he literally ate them, i kinda saw as a nen aura fusion, not a " bilogical consumption" . But i'm not sure, maybe you're right@@master11050
And the problem with Meruem is that there are many powerful monsters and he simply does not stand a chance.
if he was in the OPM verse saitama negs, flashy flash negs, king's luck negs, blast negs, tatsumaki negs, metal knight negs, bang and bomb neg, atomic samurai negs like bro he aint surviving long enough to get strong
Meruem ripping off his own arm is not his biggest strength feat as at that point he was not using aura to defend himself.
I feel like you can get some info on other attacks based on games based on the games
There may have been a very important element to Meruem that increases his threat level in a world like OPM and against opposition like DSK.
The tremendous buffs that Meruem gets from eating strong beings.
If he ended up consuming a part of DSK it could dramatically change the outcome of that battle.
after seeing the vid i think that it's very VERY close but meruem wins by a tiny bit
Deep sea king win
@@goku-wc8mw yeah after thinking for a while its more probable
@@goku-wc8mwdeep sea king at best wins against pre rose meureum
Post rose meureum shld win low to mid diff
I bet my house that DSK in his natural habitat is low Dragon.
I lot of factors go into this fight outside of raw stats, such as creativity, environment, adaptability.
Pre rose Meruem gets absolutely slammed but post rose is more contentious
You may say that Meruem’s rage blast can dehydrate and weaken the deep sea king, but he tanked an incinerator from a Genos stronger than the house of evolution arc, who could vaporize several mountain ranges.
In my opinion Meruem’s best chance of winning is if he creates a nen ability to counter deep sea king
Or find a strategy, eat a piece of him than go on from there like how he did with netero
Great video but I have t adresse a fact that almost every content creator do wrong in these kind of comparison: reaction speed is not equal to how fast someone can run or even throw an attack. Keep that in mind.
Post-Rose meruem attack on the plateu was calculated to be 600 megatons strong, even if it was 1000 times weaker it would still kill any demon level monster of opm and some dragons too
What makes Meruem truly terrifying is his massive growth in a little over a month. His power and speed exceeded someone who trained all his life, his battle IQ was genius level after only playing a few games of Gungi with Komugi and this was all with basic understanding of Nen. If he were in the One-Punch Man verse, Meruem would be the type to break his limitter and become Saitama-level.
Doubt it
Nope he won’t lol
Garou did better when it comes to growth rate
Being like this means his limiter would be set high and hard to break and removing it even harder. Removing a limiter completley requires a low set limiter to make it easier / possible.
Nah you are completely wrong.
Meruem ripping off his own arm shouldn’t be seen as such an impressive strength feats since he could just lower the nen enhancement in one arm and increase the other.
DSK also took significant damage from Genos blast shown by his amp even getting reverted.
DSK, mid diffs base meruem, and high diffs Rose.
THANK YOU for pointing out reaction time =/= movement speed
I honestly want to know about Bang vs. Platinum S?
I think that Bang could have a chance because he actually hit monster Garou and crack his face or mask or whatever, while (I am not sure if weaker or stronger version of) monster Garou destroyed Platinum S.
Netero was able to break through at least several feet of solid rock when he was forcing Meruem into the tomb for their fight, and that was an easy feat for him. If a character cannot destroy an ENTIRE building in one fell swoop, then it’s disingenuous to say that that character has building-level feats when, in actuality, they’re only really strong enough to destroy some incredibly hard compounds like concrete or the bomb shelter.
You don't understand how threat levels work, do you?
To be a God level threat, one needs to threaten the whole of humanity. Not like going around and killing people but destroying the planet in one fell swoop like Boros or Garou.
Meruem is Dragon level at best. He can destroy a city at best.
dont forget opm cities are country sized
@@yoda998How??
@@conradthekingofcursesthey built and expanded the city until it was country sized. 🙄
@@conradthekingofcurses the city overviews show that so.
@@yoda998 When did they do that? Also that doesn't mean all of the cities are country sized
bro if you are speculating that Muruem possibly might win it is closer then you make it out to be in the title.
Regarding the "dodging bullet=faster than sound argument" how do you know what caliber is being used, since there are also bullets that are as slow as 50 mph?
I’m surrpised you barely mentioned how OP Nen is… Like, you can’t underestimate Nen evolution and Nen-after-death.
wasnt genos able to dodge light speed attacks from the cockroach monster? and yet deep sea king was easily able to keep us with him... wouldnt that make deep sea king ftl?
Thats Early Genos
Why do people keep saying the cockroach moves at light speed, it was stated in the manga he was only able to dodge things moving at light speed because he could see their intentions before they do their attack meaning he could just simply dodge the attack before the attack was even thrown so he doesn't move at light speed but can only dodge things moving at light speed
To be fair, anything related to characters speed that goes farther than speed of light is already a mess, which barely make a sense
Cause, if they not using any kind of teleportation, and really move faster than light - they will instantly destroy all around them on atomic level
The laws of physics is boring, i know, but i just dont understand why people continue to amp characters to "lightspeed" "faster than light speed" and etc without really thinking about mechanics of this ability and how it will work, not using it just as a flashy statement to make character appear more badass
@@rest8280 Flashy Flash moves at lightspeed and Sonic is relative to him (if you read the webcomic) so Meruem would likely be blitzed considering DSK was able to at least follow along with Sonic.
@@ericmanget4280 I'm not arguing that meruem would win since I read both mangas and ik dsk slams but I'm just tired of seeing that people think that the roach can move at light speed, also to your statement, sonic when he fought the Dsk was still younger and weaker than the sonic in the webcomic, at that point, flashy flash is definitely faster than sonic since that was before Sonic's training arc started, even season 2 sonic is way faster than the sonic that fought dsk
Bro Meruem is clowning him
the only think that I would add is how meruem as both a specialists and a genius could probably develope a nen ability in the middle of a fight that its personalized to beat the opponent in front of him, the only time he fought was against someone he could beat just with his physical stats but I can see him doing sth like that
but not really against an opponent who suprass him in everything and probably wouldn't give him enough margin to develop and ability
Hxh speed scaling is disgustengly dowplayed. The Statement even clearly says that netero has surpassed the speed of sound by a consiserable margin and nothing implies relativity. Even fodder characters can consistencly react and block bullets in hxh. To downplay and ignore 12s of feats bc of the interpretation of one broad statement is simply ignorant.
I know mermen would still lose but nobody ever remembers he can steal abilities from eating people
i read the title as “muman rider vs deep sea king isnt even close” and i’m disappointed i didnt get that vid
can you do a garou vs boran?
this does make sense but I think all the numbers would change once the ant king decided to create a nen ability with his intelligent it would probably be the best the verse (this can anything form just controlling the sea king to just ignoring durability and we seen such things in HxH from weaker characters) once the king know he is not the strongest in the world he would find a way to be and he is smart enough to do so.
fun fact there is a lot of kings in opm and one of them is an ancient king which is just a dinosaur and he is bigger than any dinosaur but died to a s rank hero by just using psychic and brings down a meteor
please do yor forger from spy x family vs jack hanma
Got a OPM vs for you. What do yah think about orochi vs pheonix man?
Amazing matchup , i was thinking about it
I curious to see how Deep Sea King with Evil Nstural Water would team up cause being underwater is his Element or where he could show his upmost strength
I have some problems with some things that you have said. I think the result is correct, I think that meruem pre rose is defeated and post rose possibly wins.
the problems I have is regarding what you said about netero. As far as I know, neto I know, netero if I train with neon in the mountains, it is very likely that the statement of exceeding the speed of sound is neon. In addition to that, there is nothing that makes us understand that he trained on another occasion in the mountains. The bearded netero that they show us in the flashback of meruem would be one younger than the one that goes to the dojo. The manga itself shows us netero in the mountains much like the netero from the meruem flashback. Netero went to the mountain at the age of 46, at 50 he began to meditate and stayed there for an indefinite time before going down, that time Meruem says it could have been 5 years, 10 or more. After finishing his training in the mountains, he gets the dojo and fights against opponents until his death, dying with an indefinite age above 120 years.
Regarding the bullets, I think it can be explained with the hxh characters being faster than the normal people who hold the weapons or having a higher acceleration than the bullets (we know from killua and his god speed that togashi knows the concept of acceleration). The only thing that could not be explained like this would be cheetu and how he dodged the bullets.
Then with one punch man, I have problems with the declaration that iai does not scale to genos from the first season. Garou said that in an open space, mustache would be a tough opponent, also atomic thought to himself in the class reunion s that genos and iai would be good sparring partners. There is also the fact that at least 3 of the 5 master swordsmen considered a draw higher than the speed of sound something worth noting. These 3 swordsmen being level class s. Then we have the data book defining the technique of 4 shadows of sonic as super sonic and that of 10 as super super sonic (and I have seen people consider this as a synonym for hyper sonic). I don't think it's unreasonable to consider that there are two levels of speed in one punch man, one with sub, super and hypersonic characters. And then one where the top tiers would be (atomic, flashy, platinum, boros, etc). For example, atomic has always made hundreds of cuts to his opponents without them being able to move, regardless of whether they are tiger, demon or dragon level. So the idea is that the majority are indigit mach and then some relativists does not seem unreasonable to me. I also don't think we've seen ftl characters that aren't or have broken the limiter or control space time. I consider this because Genos mentions relativity and how it is impossible to exceed the speed of light. That in the chapter where a young saitama tries to see his bald head in the reflection, the narrator considers this feat obviously impossible. Or that in the onebukuro, boros in meteor mode kicked saitama at almost the speed of light.
This is just my opinion, if someone thinks that the hxh characters are a thousand times faster than sound, or that one punch man characters are ftl, it seems to me that there are arguments for them, I simply believe it is the interpretation that I give it.
and sorry if I don't understand well, I'm using a translator XD
I always tho he would be on par with Dragon level like Nyan, but I guess I am just biased.
How did you go from "Meruem's strength is impressive because it surpasses his durability and he survived a nuke in the face" to "we don't really have a lot of feats so I'm assuming Meruem is weaker than a guy throwing big rocks and destroying single buildings"?
I think that even pre rose meruam could be able to take on DSK purely because of nen. In th HxH at least anime idk about manga it says that nen attacks on those without it can be devastating or will unlock the other person to nen, so if meruam got some good strikes in the could eithier obliterate DSK or he would get destroyed as a result of DSK awakening to nen.
I loved the video, but putting netero budhavhasta below building level is WILD🤣🤣🤣
My statement about One Punch Man being a world where multiple main characters got exported out of their own series and put into a world where they don't have plot armor seems to hold true again.
sonic has had the name "speed of sound" since he was a child xd