5 Primitive Archery MISTAKES you are probably making
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2023
- These are the top 5 mistakes I see many primitive archers making that lead to having a bad hunting experience.
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Might sound like a dumb comment but I believe a person can be more successful by not focusing on the kill solely. You're going out to watch the animals, to enjoy the day and to learn. By doing that you're developing patience and with patience that perfect chance is more likely to occur. If it doesn't, so what? You have fulfilled what you set out for in the first place, a good day in the woods. That's really what it's supposed to be about anyway. Not numbers or bragging rights or killing something quick so you can get back to the ball game. I've learned more from the game I've missed than any I've ever actually killed and I've spent many a pleasant day and brought back nothing, always knowing my time would come.
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The emphasis on a quick kill is to always do everything in your power to prevent the animal from suffering. It's not about killing more efficiently for your own score card. I think that's just Ryan's way of saying his weapons are humane as modern ones if they are used effectively
@@shanejohnson3525 I agree. What I'm saying is that a lot of modern day hunters are missing the point. For them it is bragging rights and a score card. If a person hunts the way Ryan does he has to know the habits and behaviors of animals. Of course you want to make a kill as humanely as possible and that is the end you're going for. But, in our modern day, we have everything from drones to computers to figure out long range shots and many an AR carrying, paramilitary wearing, tech savvy nimrod wouldn't know an oak tree from dogwood and wouldn't know how to process an animal if they killed it. In my opinion technology is ruining the sport. If you limit yourself and put in your time you're going to get a lot more from what you're doing than you would if you go out opening morning, make along range shot, take the carcass to the butcher and get back for the football game. What's the point? I figure a fellow with traditional gear and especially primitive gear is going to pay his dues for success and he's going to be a lot more savvy, a lot more appreciative of the animals he hunts. I've seen a lot of so called hunters come out of their heated blinds thanking the good Lord for the animal they just shot over the corn pile. Baloney! It was a 6.5 fired from long range at an animal the game keeper has been feeding for 4 years. He's probably got him named Oscar.
Good points of emphasis. Hunting with primitive equipment is very difficult because of how difficult it is to make good primitive bows, arrows and strings. In theory a perfectly matched set of cane arrows shot out of a well made Osage bow can be really close to any traditional glass bow out there, but if you try and make your own primitive arrows you will find out very quickly how incredibly inconsistent they will shoot in a batch if not matched perfectly. I went back to traditional gear for now because I don’t have the time or skill to get somewhat close to my traditional equipment. Ryan, your stuff is top notch and is not far off from high quality traditional archery equipment that is very consistent in performance, hats off to you for cracking the code and getting the information out there for everyone who wants to learn and try it out.
Just found you my friend. I’m new to archery but only really have interest in the primitive longbows. No nock, no shelf. It’s been interesting so far. I shoot about 1-3 hours at a time roughly 4x a week. Depending on weather. My problem has been finding the One Way to shoot accurately or anchor. I have tried a few I found to work well and be fairly accurate. It’s all really been self-taught. I wish I had a friend who does traditional style.
So this channel I think will help. Thank you!
Graduate course level instruction right here. I have and recommend your book. Outstanding work Ryan. This is likely more important than most realize, given our increasing risk of power grid vulnerability due to earth's weakening magnetic shield plus solar cycle activity. Hats off. My PhD in a hard science from work at Los Alamos National labs is less valuable than what you teach, from my current perspective. Cheers.
I was overshooting, and yes my shoot getting worse. Then I saw your Talking Primitive videos, it's help a lot! Your tips is really really useful in real situation. It's been 3 years for me to "not shoot too much".
Thanks Ryan!
I can valch for shooting too much. Archery is a passion, has been since the 60's for me. It's also a release, an escape from stress, just me and my bow becoming one with the arrow. I've shot with fatigue losing accuracy and push harder trying to regain it and end up with an injury keeping me from shooting at all.
Excellent - I'm doing everything wrong, hahaha. Except, my bow is way too overpowered, which is even worse in terms of fatigue.
Thank you very, very much!
greetings sir and everyone.thank you sir for the knowledge you sharing.these are exellent points.much appreciated.
Great video, thanks for all the tips!
Good video! Thanks for that.
Good morning from Syracuse NY brother
Well hello lol
Hi my friend outstanding videos and the last one was very funny and family first
Just did that last night , first shots were good , then group fell apart , but kept shooting saying , one more good group ill quit, but it just spiraled out of control til i was second guessing me even hunting w traditional bow
First arrow is the one that counts.
@@2anonymous true true
Your rite
I thought I was the only one who did this lol I rarely miss on a hunt but can’t seem to hit the target consistently 💀😂
Excellent tips and advice Ryan. The only thing I don't fully agree with is your opinion on Whitewood bows. Have you not seen Thad & Keith's videos in fire hardening whitewood's? I know you say you've experimented with it, but if you haven't seen their videos I highly recommend you watch m. Thad Beckham outdoors. I do requirement your opinion though Sir. And in my opinion you are a master knapper n it would be an honor to learn your art n skill. Most videos I can watch n learn to reproduce the results, but knapping has been a struggle to say the least
I have seen their work and I have tested fire hardening extensively in the book. They still resorb a lot of moisture through the back of the bow. We tested multiple examples including a stave directly from them and the results always included significant performance loss with moisture resorption. Some we even fired multiple times to the point of ruining the bow just to see if it would in fact repel moisture. While the moisture meter reads low on the belly, the backs read high, but the real story is in the fps decreases as the bows are subjected to humid environments. I highly recommend the secrets and science book. It's very conclusive regarding moisture tests.
@@huntprimitive9918 how's about sinew backing? Also, there are other woods pretty close to Osage, black locust and mulberry for example. Not disputing your conclusions. I know that Osage and yew are the best. But I'd like to know your opinion on those two woods. I've had pretty good success with black locust and found it easier to work than Osage. Not as many pin knots.
Ryan - you mentioned that your finished points are usually about 50 gr. Could you give us an idea of average dimensions for your points of this weight? Thanks!
Is there an audio book version of your book ?
N m went to your site found it
11:00 A perfect tiller is important when considering moisture absorption especially for shorter bows that you arent aiming upright and to the cheek. When utilizing a shorter warbow style youd need to "overdraw" a bit to get that arrow to full speed. thanks man! good tips! how though is the difference between making a self bow out of moist wood compare to when it is fully dried at some point and re-aqcuires moisture? do you know?
cuz i do plan on hunting with very short comanche style warbows. i actually made a 36 incher
btw i used pacific yew
Ryan - how do you test shoot your arrows. Do you mount a modified 50 gr. point, or do you shoot your actual knapped point into a really forgiving material? Great videos! Kent
Nowadays I typically test the arrow with no point at all. I just shoot the blunt ended arrow into a hay bale. If it flies good (which it typically does) then I put a stone point on it and I'm ready to hunt. If I need to test with a field point, I use a 70 gr glue on field point
So the material that you remove in changing the blunt end into a tapered tip for the point probably balances out the weight of the added knapped point? Brilliant!
Can you send me a big chunk of the strongest rock knife rocks because the place were I live only has sandstone and limestone
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Could someone tell me what is "white wood" in this context? I am not from a culture where this phrase is being used and Google gives me answers all over the place.
whitewood is a generic term for white colored woods like hickory, elm, ask, etc. Those woods are predominantly sapwood which is more white in color. Compared to woods like osage and black locust which utilize the heartwood and are a darker color. So when someone says whitewood, it's referring to woods like hickory, or bows made of sapwood as opposed to heartwood.
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