Finally someone showed me the difference between the old and new models that helped me understand why we don't have to worry about frame cracking anymore. Thanks.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Now I have to get my hands on the new model 30x. It will be interesting to see how they upgraded it over these old designs.
TBH that is NOT the latest model. The newest model has adjustable rear sites, a finger extension on the magazine and they have skeletonized trigger. They all have a threaded barrel as well. This is a mid model. This is NOT the latest version of the 3032. Sorry It just isn't.
@@lynnkramer1211 You're right. There's a newer design, but I'm not able to find them to purchase yet. I was referring to the design that beefed up the slide thicknesses as discussed in this video. I bought the Beretta 3032 model in December of 2023. The improved engineering discussed in this video was apparent in my latest purchase. If you can get Beretta's latest release of the Tomcat, then do that. I will buy another one when I can find them.
I knew there was a diffwerence between them but now I see it's a BIG difference in thickness. Great shooting! Hitting golf balls with a pocket pistol is impressive
Thanks for watching! You can feel the difference when shooting. The old slide has a snappier recoil. Maybe that's why I shoot the new one a little better? They are both great fun to shoot.
alright lets go I've been really thinking about getting one of them or the smaller one. I was told buy my local store he gets 32acp so I guess ammo wouldn't be an issue.
Thanks for watching and commenting. .32acp isn't too hard to find. It might be expensive but if you shop online you can find it pretty reasonable. like other uncommon calibers it pays to shop around. I bet you will like the little Beretta.
I love my Tomcat! Despite equipping my covert model with a micro compensator and magazine pinky extensions, I still have some major work to do to get as good with mine as you are with yours. Perhaps one day! As far as shootability goes between your two Tomcats, that extra mass on the newer model reduces the reciprocating speed of the slide. (That was likely Beretta's very intention in hopes of fixing the cracking issue.) My theory is that this same feature also reduces the recoil impulse a tiny bit, allowing someone like you to shoot slightly better.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I haven't shot the tomcat that much but for some reason it just works for me. The old version is just as accurate but the slide velocity is a little higher so that is probably why I don't shoot it quite as well. If the old tomcat didn't have frame cracking issues I would practice with it until I could shoot it better. The frame on mine isn't cracked but I don't want it to crack either. It will be a conversation piece for now. I think the tomcat would be awesome suppressed. Not sure how the frames would hold up but it would be fun for a while.
Not fan of the new model. Had to buy an old slide for a family member, because he got a new model and didn't like the thick-ass slide. They thickened the slide to fix the frame cracking issues... and it did Nothing to fix the problem... but for some reason they never got rid of the useless, overly thick slides. If you don't want your frame cracking, apparently you just gotta make sure you don't shoot the heavier ammo. I never would have thought that could make such a difference, but apparently that's the cause.
I’m a Beretta fan. But they really did mess up on the 3032. I have the old carbon steel version with the aluminum frame. If the frame was steel it would be a great gun. But alas it wasn’t designed to be a great gun. Probably only tested it by putting 50 rounds of low pressure ammunition through it. It was designed to be loaded up and put in your pocket or purse or fanny pack. In summary, it is a fantastic pocket pistol as long as you never have to pull the trigger.
They should be functionally identical. As long as there's not a problem with one of them, they should be identical in their accuracy. The only difference is the slide being thicker and the finish/color. Those things shouldn't change the accuracy though (unless the sights are off or the different color makes it harder to align the sights). Also, if one has a POA/POI that you're used to, then switching to a different one can definitely throw you off. If you're used to one that shoots 2" high right at 15 yards and then switch to one that has a 2" low left POA/POI, then that could throw you off too. Might be worth comparing them with a bench block to see if they both have the same POI. (....and damn, I'm surprised that one bullet punctured the golf ball. Must have been a perfect shot).
Thanks for watching and commenting. I do find that the newer model shoots a little softer with the heavier slide. I load my own .32acp so I load them pretty soft. I can't tell a difference when using factory ammo. I really prefer the slimmer slide but I shoot the newer one better. They both seem to shoot to the same point of aim. It's amazing how well they both shoot for being so small. Thanks again and have a great evening!!
The American 32ACP ammo is not as hot as the European stuff like S&B and Fiocchi and in Beretta’s manual it says that you shouldn’t shoot ammo with the muzzle energy over 140ft/lbs which is all of the European ammunition I could find and some of the American defensive ammo. Frame cracking can result from repeated use of the hotter ammo, I can tell a slight difference in recoil impulse between them but the more likely cause is that those little pistol’s weren’t designed with high round counts in mind.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I was thinking about doing a comparison of different .32 ammo just for that reason. I would like to know how my ammo falls into the array of available 32acp. Most of the time I shoot very mild reloads so I don't worry about cracking the frame but it would be neat to know how factory ammo performs. Thanks for the idea.
@@gillysguns9244 that would make for a great video. That information is out there but I haven’t found it all in one place or in an easily digestible video so I definitely think you should run with that.
The fact that you have the barrel tipped up,....but dont put a round in,..then rack the slide,....defeats the purpose of the gun altogether,.....your not even suppose to rack the slide on these,......you dont know much do ya?
Racking it cocks the hammer and puts the trigger in single action vs having the first round having the double action trigger pull. He could cock the hammer with the thumb but why? He is target shooting not defensive carrying. No need to have the extra step of putting one in the barrel. No need for a pocket full of loose bullets. Just load mags!
Finally someone showed me the difference between the old and new models that helped me understand why we don't have to worry about frame cracking anymore. Thanks.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Now I have to get my hands on the new model 30x. It will be interesting to see how they upgraded it over these old designs.
TBH that is NOT the latest model. The newest model has adjustable rear sites, a finger extension on the magazine and they have skeletonized trigger. They all have a threaded barrel as well. This is a mid model. This is NOT the latest version of the 3032. Sorry It just isn't.
@@lynnkramer1211 You're right. There's a newer design, but I'm not able to find them to purchase yet. I was referring to the design that beefed up the slide thicknesses as discussed in this video. I bought the Beretta 3032 model in December of 2023. The improved engineering discussed in this video was apparent in my latest purchase. If you can get Beretta's latest release of the Tomcat, then do that. I will buy another one when I can find them.
I knew there was a diffwerence between them but now I see it's a BIG difference in thickness. Great shooting! Hitting golf balls with a pocket pistol is impressive
Thanks for watching! You can feel the difference when shooting. The old slide has a snappier recoil. Maybe that's why I shoot the new one a little better? They are both great fun to shoot.
@@gillysguns9244 Makes sense to me
That’s some awesome shooting my friend. Beretta makes some great pistols. And love your range set up. 👍👍👍👍👍💥💥💥
Thanks Al. I hope that some day I will be able to shoot as many cool guns as you. 👍👍👍
U done well my friend 😁
Thanks you 👍👍👍
alright lets go I've been really thinking about getting one of them or the smaller one. I was told buy my local store he gets 32acp so I guess ammo wouldn't be an issue.
Thanks for watching and commenting. .32acp isn't too hard to find. It might be expensive but if you shop online you can find it pretty reasonable. like other uncommon calibers it pays to shop around. I bet you will like the little Beretta.
Great shooting with them little pistols. Heck I can't hit them golf balls with a full size pistol
Thanks Scott. Fact is I have trouble hitting them with a full size handgun as well😂😂😂
Haaaaa.same here
Nice shooting!
Thanks Phil!
I love my Tomcat! Despite equipping my covert model with a micro compensator and magazine pinky extensions, I still have some major work to do to get as good with mine as you are with yours. Perhaps one day! As far as shootability goes between your two Tomcats, that extra mass on the newer model reduces the reciprocating speed of the slide. (That was likely Beretta's very intention in hopes of fixing the cracking issue.) My theory is that this same feature also reduces the recoil impulse a tiny bit, allowing someone like you to shoot slightly better.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I haven't shot the tomcat that much but for some reason it just works for me. The old version is just as accurate but the slide velocity is a little higher so that is probably why I don't shoot it quite as well. If the old tomcat didn't have frame cracking issues I would practice with it until I could shoot it better. The frame on mine isn't cracked but I don't want it to crack either. It will be a conversation piece for now.
I think the tomcat would be awesome suppressed. Not sure how the frames would hold up but it would be fun for a while.
This explains why the Crimson Trace LG 490 won't let the newer thick slides cycle.
Maybe with the added weight you could run some hotter ammo?
That answer makes perfect sense,...& would be the reason to rack the slide,......you know this firearm,......finnally thx.
Not fan of the new model. Had to buy an old slide for a family member, because he got a new model and didn't like the thick-ass slide. They thickened the slide to fix the frame cracking issues... and it did Nothing to fix the problem... but for some reason they never got rid of the useless, overly thick slides. If you don't want your frame cracking, apparently you just gotta make sure you don't shoot the heavier ammo. I never would have thought that could make such a difference, but apparently that's the cause.
I’m a Beretta fan. But they really did mess up on the 3032. I have the old carbon steel version with the aluminum frame. If the frame was steel it would be a great gun. But alas it wasn’t designed to be a great gun. Probably only tested it by putting 50 rounds of low pressure ammunition through it. It was designed to be loaded up and put in your pocket or purse or fanny pack. In summary, it is a fantastic pocket pistol as long as you never have to pull the trigger.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I like the small stature of the older model but I don't shoot it much. Instead I carry a 21a most of the time.
I have over 500 rounds in my old 3032 Tomcat it’s always in my rotation for carry and as a backup gun
They should be functionally identical. As long as there's not a problem with one of them, they should be identical in their accuracy. The only difference is the slide being thicker and the finish/color. Those things shouldn't change the accuracy though (unless the sights are off or the different color makes it harder to align the sights).
Also, if one has a POA/POI that you're used to, then switching to a different one can definitely throw you off. If you're used to one that shoots 2" high right at 15 yards and then switch to one that has a 2" low left POA/POI, then that could throw you off too. Might be worth comparing them with a bench block to see if they both have the same POI. (....and damn, I'm surprised that one bullet punctured the golf ball. Must have been a perfect shot).
Thanks for watching and commenting. I do find that the newer model shoots a little softer with the heavier slide. I load my own .32acp so I load them pretty soft. I can't tell a difference when using factory ammo. I really prefer the slimmer slide but I shoot the newer one better. They both seem to shoot to the same point of aim. It's amazing how well they both shoot for being so small.
Thanks again and have a great evening!!
The American 32ACP ammo is not as hot as the European stuff like S&B and Fiocchi and in Beretta’s manual it says that you shouldn’t shoot ammo with the muzzle energy over 140ft/lbs which is all of the European ammunition I could find and some of the American defensive ammo. Frame cracking can result from repeated use of the hotter ammo, I can tell a slight difference in recoil impulse between them but the more likely cause is that those little pistol’s weren’t designed with high round counts in mind.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I was thinking about doing a comparison of different .32 ammo just for that reason. I would like to know how my ammo falls into the array of available 32acp. Most of the time I shoot very mild reloads so I don't worry about cracking the frame but it would be neat to know how factory ammo performs. Thanks for the idea.
@@gillysguns9244 that would make for a great video. That information is out there but I haven’t found it all in one place or in an easily digestible video so I definitely think you should run with that.
Sure like your range setup
Thanks. You need to come up and shoot a little!
@@gillysguns9244 sure would like to one of these days. THANKS
So which do you prefer?
I prefer the new model. I like the lighter weight of the old version but I shoot the new design better.
@@gillysguns9244 Thanks
Bravo.thenks
Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate the feedback?
I got one a month ago n it was fd up from the factory
Thanks for watching and commenting. I hope they make it right. I have never had to deal with Beretta's customer service so I can't say good or bad.
The fact that you have the barrel tipped up,....but dont put a round in,..then rack the slide,....defeats the purpose of the gun altogether,.....your not even suppose to rack the slide on these,......you dont know much do ya?
😂😂😂 wonder why the slide has cocking serrations? Thanks for watching and commenting.
That was the silliest comment I’ve ever seen. I’m going to call you Mr. Weak Hands, because you obviously have a problem racking the slide. 😂😂😂
@@gillysguns9244and I wasn’t talking about you brother. It’s the idiot who said “you’re not supposed to rack the slide”. Hahaha
Racking it cocks the hammer and puts the trigger in single action vs having the first round having the double action trigger pull. He could cock the hammer with the thumb but why? He is target shooting not defensive carrying. No need to have the extra step of putting one in the barrel. No need for a pocket full of loose bullets. Just load mags!