Frank Zappa Talks about Jimi Hendrix
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Frank Zappa Talks about Jimi Hendrix
Hendrix also said himself that he wanted to learn theory and score music.
@@megadave1197He did need to. Not for his own music but to create bigger pieces for more instruments because he had massive composing potential.
There was a moment later in his life when he and miles davis used to hang out from time to time, and if i recall correctly miles tried to teach him a thing or two
That would have killed the magic. His type of music is blues and jazz based, with lots of individual improvisation.
I think Zappa only allowed himself to play solos.
@@megadave1197 he did. he also did need to know more about the legal stuff regarding contracts in music business. He would have needed much much more to not have been burnt out by the "corporate machinery".
He had a profound respect and admired symphony orchestras.
"Green Velvet Pants" sounds like a great title for a Zappa tune.
At least Velvet Green is a Jethro Tull song. 🙂
"Son of Mr. Green Jeans"
The Return of the Son of Mr Green Jeans
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“Jazz isn’t dead. It just smells funny.”
- Frank Zappa
"I'm George Duke, and I approved this message!"
Zappa is a narcissist, much? Making Hendrix "ignorant". Yet no one swoons over ego man Zappa's playing when Jimi's skill level was unattainable by Zappa.
Where did he say jimi was ignorant?.. He just said if Jimi could write standard musical notation, which he factually couldn't do, Jimi could probably have been a good composer for more musicians. That's not an insult to Jimi or his music, it's a suggestion that Jimi could've succeeded at doing something else *as well* if he had the knowledge of how to do it. This is basically Zappa's way of saying that he didn't just think Jimi was a great guitar player, but that Jimi also had great musical ideas that might've translated better to being played on more than a single 6 stringed instrument.
Also someone asked for Zappa's opinion here, which is why we're seeing this clip, so someone thought his opinion of Jimi was of interest at the very least.
@@Markos-yk1lw what are you talking about? Are you O.K.?
By suggesting that Hendrix couldn't write in standard notation Z is implying ignorance
Zappa's not for everyone and I think he liked it that way
In French we say : on ne donne pas du caviar aux porcs
And we who see through his kingly clothes like it as well...
I've been a lifelong musician for over 40 years I have learn many things from Frank Zappa but the biggest takeaway I got was there are two types of musicians in the world.
Those who write music for other musicians and those who write music for everyone else.
zappa is for everyone but only some listen
@@jackknife4547 exact same can be said about Rush
I'd really love to see that intricate dance step 😂
I'm told it's only for people aged over 18 (21 in certain other jurisdictions)!😅😅😅
@@user-hw2vm4ut3xhi hi hi
Pretty sure it was the stanky leg 😏
Probably just shifted and his ginormous c0ck tore it to shreds
🤣👍🏻@katielowen only Jimi could rip green velvet pants doin the stanky leg
I like that you can tell Frank admired Jimi without actually saying so. He shows it in his own way
He was also disgusted by him being an irresponsible junky and drunk.
Cool recognizes cool, this you can bet money on...🎉😂
That’s a great compliment all things considered (Zappa being very critical). He’s basically saying Jimi was amazing and he would’ve loved to see what more he could’ve done with some help.
Agreed, yet he harbored a great deal of resentment, as evidenced by his unwise fixation of social ills he perceived. His latter catalog could've been far more approachable if less angst.
1979 , 12 years old... I find Frank Zappa's album freak out in my Uncle's record collection and I hear help I'm a rock for the 1st time... Mind blown
2020 I hear help I'm a rock for 1st time..... mind blown 2
I was 14 in 79’ Zappa’s Joe’s Garage was and is one of my favorites.
@Gratefulman1965 👍I was born in '65 too and Joe's Garage til this day is my favorite FZ album. Most of my classmates did not get it back then.
in 1965 I was 12 years old then shortly afterward I discovered that same album... and figured out the entire thing was a parody!
"Maybe you should live with your mama, she could do your laundry and cook for you....." off of "Sheik Yer Booty" always got me.
Rest In Peace Frank … we could really use you around now !
Frank saw our current era before it even happened.
Rather have Hendrix around now
@@megadave1197same, he's like a myth now
Frank: always ahead of his time.
Why? So we could get another finger waving morality lesson from a far left wing musician? One who was wrong on every prediction he had in the 80s?
Frank basically said, “Jimi needs a George Martin…”
exaclty, like he did for Jeff Beck
which is the worst thing ever that could have happened.
@@sound-ur1bqSo EDDIE KRAMER didn't cut it, huh?!
@@RICHBLACKCOCK Eddie Kramer was a recording engineer - not a music composer/score writer. Eddie did an outstanding job in helping to bring Jimi's sonic ideas to fruition, but he wasn't capable of writing his ideas into sheet music.
@@dmoore0079 CHAS CHANDLER then. At least up until the EL lp. Cut Jim & those artists some slack. The vast majority of these INSPIRED! players, didn't read music. Ok. So they played by ear; feel. 👂That's uh good thing actually. What recording tracking devices were used in the 1960's? 4 track? 8 tracks? These rock titans were pushing beyond those boundaries.
"I figured people who would go for ugly might go for me." - Frank Zappa
Oddly ..Women found him very SEXY 🔥
❤ The uglier the man the sweeter the music.
I love to hear interviews of Frank talking about music! Actually I think this was quite a compliment FZ gave Jimi. I don't know if he'd tell any musician to have someone write down their music. It also suggests to me that Frank saw something in Jimi that was much greater beyond being a guitarist. I tend to agree on that. My favorite Hendrix is the 3rd side of Electric Ladyland. Rainy Day Dream Away. Followed by 1983, a Merman I should Turn to be. Then Moon, Turn the Tides ... Gently Gently Away. A thoroughly amazing composition!!
Yes, exactly. That's my favorite Hendrix album side too.
@@chicklets4ever51 Agreed.
The studio was Jimi's orchestra, and with Eddie Kramer to help, it was the way he realised his ideas. Some famous jazz player remarked that Jimi had 'big ears,' referring, not to his physical ears, but to his inner ability to hear a whole composition at once. Electric Ladyland really demonstrates this ability, and so does Rainbow Bridge.
I remember the first time I heard 1983 A.M.I.S.T.T.B. on headphones. Such an amazing musical composition. Very underrated. Every bit as good, if not better, than Third Stone from the Sun, imo. Then there's the remix of 1983 where Eddie Kramer and Jimi just went crazy on the effects and panning. Incredible.
Love those tracks ! JIMI & all of his band mates were amazing ! Incredible music they made.
I've never gotten high, but those 3 tracks must be out of this world to someone who's blitzed ! I love them just the way they are while sober.
LONG LIVE THAT SCREAMING EAGLE !!!
@@levitaggart5943 "I love them just the way they are while sober."
I like that! Music and particularly good music is good like that.
I remember I was 18yo living in Italy and there was a Radio station in those days advertising a concert in Zurich of FZ. They were organizing the trip and tickets to those willing to see him in Switzerland. We went by Van just for the concert and straight back...lots of snow and cold in winter. That was the only time I saw Zappa in concert. 1978.
That sounds FANTASTIC and a memory forever. Thanks for sharing that ❗
I saw him live twice.. once in LA 1984, once in Spain 1988. I was also an avid hitch hiker and once got a ride with a keyboard player in Austria in 1983 who was in his band at one point
FZ concert.. one van and "lots of snow"...🤔
Light years ahead of his time. A real musical genius. Rip Frank.🙏
I never knew how articulate Frank Zappa was. What an interesting guy.
There's a ton of his interviews on UA-cam right now. I'm thinking because he was very articulate about POLITICS and American culture. Keep looking. He was an amazing man and talent. Didn't do drugs or alcohol and asked same of his band members. Impossible to remember his intricate compositions if you were high as hell. Indeed.😊
Dude was smart..
definitely check out his interviews
Lee su autobiografía. La terminó antes de MORIR
Vio y habló de cosas y situaciones político sociales de una manera que otros artistas no hicieron. Uno de sus grandes fanáticos es Matt groening, creador de los Simpsons que ha usado la visión de Zappa para sus historias pero mucha gente no lo sabe.
Mira el video de cuando Zappa habló en el senado de Usa luchando contra la censura en la música, él sólo enfrentando a lo más rancio del partido republicano de los 80' s. Dee Snider se unió a su lucha pero muchos otros músicos no tomaron partido, cuestión que más tarde todos se pusieron en contra de la industria...
Fascinating. Frank is saying he absolutely loved Hendrix. He doesn't have to show it.
You are right. Frank could be incredibly critical of people and this was a very kind assessment of him. His only mention of Jimi's shortcoming as a musician was to offer solution.
He seems to hate being around a pair of junkies.....FZ had no patience for drug use.
My take on what Frank's saying is that Hendrix was a musical genius, and the only way Jimi could express his musical ideas was through his guitar, and that his musical ideas transcended the electric guitar. Everything was a nail to Hendrix's hammer (guitar).
@@kevinrogers7650 yes!
I disagree. I think, If he really thought highly of hendrix and his music for what it was, he wouldn't call him musically illiterate and then suggest he should've taken a different path with his music. Frank is just a highly egotistical narcissistic asshole.
Jimi was raw rock with soul, I don’t think writing stuff down would have made it any better. Two completely different creative ideologies between him and Zappa
only for those that want to emulate it later.
Agreed- great comment....
But Jimi's albums are multi-tracked masterpieces. It was another side to his ability to play raw rock live.
Jimi was moving in the direction Franks suggestion would have helped before he died and considering the depth on Electric Ladyland, if he had had a man who could notate Jimis ideas, who knows. Space Symphonies
Very astute and insightful comment for sure,who knows if Jimmy really would have benefited from it but had the opportunity availed itself he might have made good use of it. He certainly had some bad influences around him Buddy Miles being one of them and I'm sure there were many others whose names we would know. Take it easy Jimmy we love you man.
RIP Frank. You are sorely missed!
Not really. He was am arrogant chump
Frank was most likely annoyed about Buddy instantly falling asleep and snoring otherwise he wouldn’t have brought that part up.
It helps color the incident Lol
@@theyrekrnations8990 You can see Frank’s very slight smile right at the end.
@@robertkise Ur right, the whole incident apparently was humorous to Frank. Lol
Ya think...
He was nodding on smack.😂
Hendrix was just someone on another level
Steve Allen show, Frank Zappa Playing music on a Bicycle 1963
Jimi's so overrated. Not bad, just overrated.
Are you retarded?@@NyQuilDonut
@@NyQuilDonut I find fz to be over rated. Classic case of "study without application is a waste". All that hard work and education zappa had just to write songs about rhino farts
@@BOBANDVEG Yeah, Zappa is more pretentious than people like to admit.
Frank Zappa was and is my favourit musician composer showman artist and visioner. RIP Frank Zappa. Greetings from Warsaw, Poland
I am almost 100 percent sure Zappa would have been these people to transcribe Hendrix' music and help expand Jimi's genuineness beyond the rock format. He was already expanding in to jazz fusion before he died.
No he couldn’t have. Jimmy had too much melanin
@@unclejesse4271are you trying to imply zappa was racist?
@@unclejesse4271 such an ignorant statement.
@@zipperblues6714 not Zappa, people willing to easily recognize Hendrix in other genres. Which may not be necessarily true, not because he was black, but because as genius as you are, it doesn't mean you will be genius at any genre, at anything else
@@andrefig822 I don't think it's accurate to say people would be racist towards a black man getting into jazz fusion.
Good advice, only to make Jimi more complete and marketable during the early days. Gotta remember Frank looking at it like the producer he was.
(Is)
🤮
marketable? lol nah
That's the most thought provoking statement about Jimi I've ever heard.
Then you don't think much
@@JayBird-zc4kh ironic statement
Before Jimi died , Jimi was collaborating with Gil Evans , noted Jazz arranger and Orchestra leader . After Jimi died , Gil put out the album , Gil Evans Orchestra plays Jimi Hendrix , it is a rare record as not many were produced . Being a Zappa fan, I was wondering if Frank ever heard it. This comment says probably not.
Didnt Jimi jam with Bo Hannson albeit briefly and they wanted to work together???
Also shame Jimi wasnt singing on the lp..but then again the rawness was lost..still its an interesting lp by Gil
Yeah, no. There's maybe a couple of tolerable tracks but it's mostly cringe. The first track Angel is a travesty.
agreed. Over produced, soulless wall of sound-esque crap which adds nothing to his songs. Frank wished Jimi had tools to explore new musical territory and not to turn his existing music into an orchestral porn soundtrack. @@flippinguitar1979
Huh! I had no idea…. It’s a bizarre listen.
Jimi was perfect just as he was !
" ... all about SOUND"
Jimi @ Woodstock
Jimi himself wanted to learn music theory before he died though, so Zappa has a point
@@Hellyeahray21references plz?
Thank you!! F what he's saying! It's almost like a teacher saying, your child hasn't developed with the rest of the class and your child needs to be in a class where they could develop better.
Jimi would be the first to tell you that wasnt true. he was very self conscious of his limitation and use to winge at people calling him things like "The greatest guitarist alive" in interviews. Responding with comments like "I'll say i'm the greatest guitarist sitting in this chair"
Zappa has always been underrated and overlooked.
And will remain that way.
Vs put on an unrealistic pedestal and treated like a god? This is how all “celebrities” should be treated
I was introduced to bring Zappa around 1973. His music was some of the most bizarre music I haven’t heard in my life. Valley girl was probably his biggest hit.
Frank followed his same suggestion by having a young Steve Vai put Zappa's own music to notation.
Perhaps he didn’t want to bother w it. I’d bet $$ Jimi wouldn’t have
Frank was an amazing music writer and wrote down everything
Lol Jimi took a tape recorder to gigs and worked out everything at home. Frank has no clue.
@@1450JackCade so you are another Zappa fanatic. Big deal.
PS guys like Zappa remind me of Rick Beato; they think music is a game of sport. Oh irony!
Could you imagine meeting Jimi and Buddy that would have been wild
I’ve noticed when FZ speaks of celebrities visiting him he says “ OUR house” instead of “My” house.. 👍
I mean he did have a family
And, 'it's a very, very nice house. With two cats in the yard, life used to be so hard..."
@@waynej2608noooooo 🤣
I bet it was in the middle of the street
Frank was probably the first guy that mixed deep knowledge of music theory with rock music. Plenty of modern players can read and write. Frank stands on his own.
Frank, Randy Rhoades, and Blackmore, and Alex Lifeson certainly were all certainly the first wave of guitarists with the ability to mix technical ability and a high level of theory into their playing
@rushpittsburgh4 Alex Lifeson hahaha he was just copying the British prog bands who came about in the late 60s. No offence to Lifeson or Rush, they're great, but come the fuck on.
Robert Fripp has entered the chat
@@smahsgalligonfangeng6363 my thoughts exactly. Musical genius
Buddy Holly somewhat did
I recall that Hendrix, prior to his death had said he was thinking of working with synthesisers and a big band. Oh what wonders high might have created had he lived, and taken Zappa's advice.
He also had some plan of starting to play with emerson lake and palmer.. now how wild would that have been
This is a huge compliment to Jimmy. Frank in that time was the go to man. He was trying to convey Jimmy was a talented genius in his own right and had so much more to offer and Frank was trying to help him get it out there.
So you people that think Mr. Zappa was being critical or negative are so wrong. Frank was a no bullshit to the point power point in the music industry at the time, the go to man for advice and this was a huge compliment to Jimmy and his talent. RESPECT!
But Hendrix solo's better than Frank, so it shows Franks ability to write music notation didnt make him a better guitarist. Also if Frank is so obsessed with 'composing' and notation why didnt he compose his solos ? Vai, Friedman, May and others compose/construct their solos and that is part of what makes them more sophisticated and sound great, while frank just plays random scatter phrases and the gimmick wheres off quickly imo
I was expecting to hear a legendary story about a meeting of two musical titans. I was not disappointed.
The tremendous intellectual and artistic intuition that FZ had - he clearly could see beyond where Jimi was, to where he was going (or could go with the right support).
Frank Zappa was definitely one of a kind. The first in many ways, and made his own way. A great guitarist. Highly intelligent... the World lost someone very special when he left us, way to early...
You know you are talking about a mediocre musician when one of their main selling points is high IQ. I’ll pick a heartfelt but less intelligently musician every time.
@@samot1808many of the best musicians have very high IQs.
@@AmericanNope i think you missed my point
As much as I like Frank Zappa and think he is very talented. He doesn’t hold a candle to Hendrix. Jimi did what Frank couldn’t do hell what most can’t. Name a virtuoso who has legitimate catchy hooks and songs while still maintaining complexity. Jimi truly is one of a kind.
George Benson
Stevie Wonder
Frank Zappa.
@@mikeregan3265 yeah, he was pretty good as well
Frank was probably super jealous of Hendrix' natural talent, showmanship, and success. Pompous ass said "I had written in articles .. . ."
saw Zappa 1984 when I was 16. best stage show. Felt like about 15 people running around up there. Some in costumes.
I was a few minutes late getting into it at UC Berkeley and he began a solo right as I entered. Took us a few minutes to get way up in back on the elevated lawn and sit down. one guy rolled a j and passed it… then it was gone. He was still soloing the entire time
Oh Lord, i was 36!😂
Franks Head was So BIG.. He could not fit through ANY doorway. He was a legend in his own mind
Mine too.
Try and read between the lines for once...moron simps
Really? He said that Jimi Hendrix's ideas should have been scored for orchestras, you muppet. That's literally the biggest compliment ever. Frank wrote orchestral scores. Does 1+1 = 4
I conclude you know nothing about FZ but you believe you do. Unfortunately, what you believe is not true.
Frank Zappa is purely obnoxious and pretentious musically.
The more I move ahead on my journey of learning guitar the more my respect for players like Zappa and Garcia increases.
Frank sure, but Jerry?
Frank was so intellectually superior to most it was unfathomable
But so much less talent than anybody else🤣
@@mattfoster5934 .. note, I used the word: "unfathomable"... You sir, are among that group
@@danchristopher7957 😄
Zappa was amazingly talented and original. I like his idea for Hendrix too. Would’ve been interesting 👍
He certainly thought he was
I love Zappa. Unfortunately Zappa loved Zappa even more.
I saw Zappa twice! I was a rocker when you were just a gleam in your daddies eye. 😜
@@thelastrebelshow1627 Why are you even commenting? There's no way you can know my age. Friggin bizarre comment.
Why is that unfortunate? That's a good thing 😂
Respecting ones self and loving thy self is how we learn to respect others thoughts sorry you missed the ✈️ flight😂😂😂❤ to humanity
@@frankorobinson1540 That's you showing respect, is it?
If only I had Hendrix songbook transcribed for Banjo, I would be a Worldwide Superstar...dreams never die.
Blessings to the Zappas & the Hendricks and to Leon Hendrix. That sounds like a great day w/ Buddy Miles sleeping on the couch and Jimu dancing - Magic moments ; ))
I'm sure Frank didn't see it as a magic moment at the time. With Buddy passed out snoring on his couch and Jimi ripping his pants and his wife having to sew them up. He was most likely irritated with the whole thing.
This Gentleman
Had Knowledge ❤
In spades...🙏
Any "TALK" about those
days ▪︎ is pure gold ( those
were the days my friends
we thought they'd never end )
Franks massive ego comes flying through wow
Do you have any idea how highly he just praised Jimi? Goes to show idiots will always confidently make themselves look stupid on the internet 😂
@@kathypop4 u call that praise?! He was clearly dissing Jimi in multiple ways beyond just his musical abilities. U 🤡
@@johnnypk1963 Frank Zappa, the American musician and composer, admired Jimi Hendrix, the legendary guitarist and musician. Zappa was known to have praised Hendrix's musical talent and skill, and even invited Hendrix to play with him on stage in the late 1960s. In an interview with Guitar Player magazine in 1982, Zappa spoke highly of Hendrix's abilities, saying "I think Jimi Hendrix was a wonderful musician, and I think that what he did was amazing." Zappa was also known to have attended some of Hendrix's concerts and was reportedly impressed by his live performances. While the two musicians had different musical styles and approaches, they shared a mutual respect and appreciation for each other's work.
He was saying that Jimi was a genius whose ideas could have been used for far more than just a 3 person band.
@@kathypop4 we’re talking abt this interview. Not other statements etc. He was NOT praising Jimi or Buddy for that matter. Franks ego was absolutely massive.
@@johnnypk1963 Did you even read the rest of my comment? I'm sure Jimi had been long gone by this time and he has been asked this multiple times, he didn't want to give some cookie-cutter BS answer so he gave a clearly fond memory of a man.
Why the hell would he say that Jimi should have had his ideas written down if he was in any way insulting Jimi?
FZ goes immediately to the drugs. He wasn't a user, and had no tolerance for those that did.
This exactly. Sometimes I feel it's a little unfair the slack he gave ppl on that but otherwise he was right on the money with a lot of the stuff he talked about. The drugs too, in a way, but I feel like he went way too hard-core with it, this being an excellent example. Jimi was a brilliant musician and you could never knock that
@@hyponomeone I'm with you. FZ would think, how much better would you be if you didn't use drugs. I'm of the mind that, alot of creative people did, and do, their best work with a little help. George Carlin for one.
@@spooge33 absolutely agreed. They can help and they can hurt. Charles bukowski wrote drunk for his entire life... I can only write drunk, it's the only way to make the words flow without getting in your own way. There are discussions to be had on it, and the mentality that produces addiction is what you have to be most careful of
FZ didn't mention drugs once in this clip.
What he didn't tolerate was musicians in his band being under the influence of drugs in the studio or at a show.
What he absolutely did not tolerate was hypocrites.
@cybore213 he did...if u can read between the lines. Why else would he mention buddy IMMEDIATELY SNORING, HE HATED OPIATES, at least from everything I've read & heard. It's called nuance. He doesn't come right out and say it...but everyone knows why he said that about buddy miles...smh
He's so.....frank.
Oh hell no lol
@@Mike-jv4rz zapped ya!
Spoke like it was the word of God but really out someone else’s ass.
@@goovialisticprofunks do elaborate.
Can you imagine someone trying to play Jimi Hendrix on the saxophone
There is a big band version of Purple Haze on Zappa's The Best Band You Never Heard In your Life
Yes, not very hard to do
Yes, John Coltrane.
@@michaelclyburn5858despite both being geniuses, john coltrane and hendrix share very little similarity
@@luisrocha26 Understood. However from my perspective, I believe that either of them could play absolutely anything with their instruments BECAUSE they were genius. Many people hear the band Helmet and just assume Page Hamilton just bangs out drop D chords and screams-when alas, he has a degree in music/music theory and many of his solos are jazz oriented as he is a huge Coltrane fan. You’d be surprised how similar Hendrix and Coltrane are believe me…cheers
Makes sense! Jimmy was a savant. No one could do what he could . My dad was the same way on piano.
Jimi’s recordings turned out just fine, thank you very much.
This was a compliment in Jimmy had so much more to offer and Frank was trying to help! Jimmy a genius in his own right.
This flew right over your head,sorry you missed the ✈️ flight
RIP Frank 🙏
Just seen an interview with Ruth Underwood where she says that Zappa so liked Jimmy’s work that he attended several Hendrix concerts. So he really was a Hendrix fan!
Frank Zappa is brilliant on any level
He most certainly thought so
Perfectly said! Step to the head of the class!😊😊😊😊
Rest in peace to you both
This man didn't need drugs to compose his music and it was way more psychodellic than anything you could imagine. A real genius
Frank had amazing techniques Jimi had soul.
We are so blessed to be living in a time with so much incredible music to listen to. Ive never understood zappa but keep trying every once in awhile. Cant wait until i get it and can appreciate him
Don't bother. There is nothing there but sneering and hostility
@@markthomas6703 There's no " there " there...lol
I think Frank was one of the most underrated musicians of all time, a true genius. I met him once many years ago, and I was just speechless. I mean, what do you say to a legend? RIP, the original Mother of Invention.
That's when the devil he farted, and she went right over the cliff.😅
Zappa! Please come back to life! PLEASE! The world needs you!
Frank was an artist song writer, he could move u, while tantalizing u while u listed to a sound with a brilliant guitar skill like no other. He was one of a kind, an icon stapled in the history of rock. Frank zappa and the mothers, had the best place around, some stupid with a flare gun burned the place to the ground. When ur name is used in the 1st heavy metal song in history u know you've done well.
Hendrix went into production work not long before his death. Producing what could legitimately be considered the first pioneering hip hop album for a group know as the Last Poets. His horizon was opening, that's the hardest part. . .
What are you talkin’ about
I’ll give Frank his props for being a genius, but I still think he’s overrated. Jimi was also a musical genius who’ s music I find way more listenable. Rip to both.
That’s some balls to say anyone is overrated when praising Hendrix at the same time
Hendrix is a guitar god, poet, gifted songwriter, etc. Zappa is a turd musically. That’s just the way it is.
Frank as astute as he was, always comes across as a bit smug
Yes. He liked to use the fact that he could read and write music as some type of hierarchical classification for his work. However, his classical music isn’t very good. He was best rocking out and trolling the country.
Except he was almost always right.
@@JonathanNelsonOfficial I named Frank, my General of total w.. not the fighting one but stopping it with his solo's, pitty that FrankandJimmy isn't there,,,
@@JonathanNelsonOfficial Why would anyone listen to your opinion? Frank wrote a ton of pieces, some of which have been performed by symphony orchestras, and they're great and well respected. Your opinion means nothing; people should check it out for themselves and not be swayed by the negative opinions of ignorant randos.
@@Gregorypeckory Why do you care so much then? Hmmm.
Jimi was a force of nature his consumption of events, emotion and the environment around him. He took it and created music from it the way he did is almost impossible. The fact he could remember all the chords, progressions, timing, and solos is pretty unbelievable for the amount of music he created. And only being 27 when he passed, if he received the chance to learn to comprehend writing, we would’ve been so lucky. But we are also so lucky with the music he gave us. Also if he wrote all of his music, I think their would be something missing.
His sense of timing was incredible at contrary of some people think, he had a fine-regulated metronome in his head, and instead of being bound to it, to a exact fractioned timing, he would bend it to his will to give some great interpretations and feelings, a bit different of playing stuff without timing. ALWAYS trying new interpretations, new solo variations, not always happy with the results, but never let down for his "failures" in mini-creations. Giving his influences, and jamming record, that's totally understandable.
This is what you need to know about Mr Zappa . If Frank could write hit pop songs, he WOULD
Imagine a world where Frank Zappa was able to save Jimi’s life by teaching him how to compose and write music like a professional. My god, I can’t even begin to picture how incredible that would have been. 😔
The end of Jimi's life had absolutely nothing to do with that. Not even the tiniest little bit.
@@henrygvidonas9573
No shit. Are you slow or something? By getting him more focused on music composition, he could have gotten his interests away from drugs and alcohol. How could you not see that’s where I was going with what I said? Are you a dingus or something? 😂
@@henrygvidonas9573
You’re not a very smart man, little Hank. 😂
imagine a world where the genius of BLACK Jimi was recognized by his native country!!! I Rember when he first came back to usa and the radiostations hardly ever played him, but the damn beetles and others were on ALL the damn time!!!
I believe he was incredible anyway, shame he died so young !
Buddy was drumming at a jam session in nj , i knew Pat the guitarist and he invited me up to jam on harmonica , tho he didnt provide a mic. Buddy stopped the jam and insisted Pat get me hooked up !!! amazing memory , and also that he was so big he had on a Jimi shirt and the image must've been almost as big as he'd been while alive
I saw The Mother's and the Experience in Miami ,1968, at the Gulfstream Rock Festival. I remember seeing Frank and other Mother's sitting on the side of the stage watching Jimi playing his set. Great concert. Blue Cheer was there too and John Lee Hooker among others.
I am jealous of you
@@johncale1849 I actually saw Jimi twice in Miami the last time just a month or two before he died.
Holee. Shit. That must have been something.Cheers.
Jimi was bursting with creativity and energy. He carried the torch for those before him and unfortunately his legacy is mostly unrealized.
Not true at all, his legacy is fully realized, most people who love music and literally almost every single guitarist reveres him as a legend, young and old
Your second statement exposes you as someone who doesn't know the first thing about rock music. Wow.
Frank didn’t like many ppl it seems, very critical.
Frank wasn't over-fond of people in general, but how is he being critical here? It's the opposite, he's paying Jimi a compliment, saying that he was capable of even more than he achieved on his own, if he had someone who could translate his musical ideas for other instruments beside the guitar. Frank is effectively suggesting Jimi had the musical vision to be a composer in the classical sense, but lacked the musical education to put his ideas into that format. It's not a criticism to simply state a fact - Jimi didn't have the know-how to write sheet music for an orchestra, for example. You can't go to an orchestra and tell them to go "dum dee dum dum fiddle-dee wang" when the beat goes "boppity bop bop"...
@@Broccoli_Highkicks Noted
Jimi learnt all his dance moves backing Little Richard
This dude was one baaaaaad musician!!! Frank, one of the greatest guitarists of all time!
Rip Frank and Jimi.
As a guitarist, he was a hack !! Great composer and band leader, but guitarist, not so much.
@@brin57 really? , Then again, I myself don’t play too much guitar, so it’s harder for me notice his imperfections. In any case, if you say that he’s a hack, then I say he’s A GREAT HACK and he has inspired others to be hack guitarists as well.
Lol
Rest In Peace Jimi, Rest In Peace Frank🙏
@@brin57but thanks for your comment because I will learn something from it. 🙏✌️ and Rock N’ Roll
@@energyasylum997 you are correct - He was a great hack. Certainly not the virtuoso guitarist some would suggest, but absolutely a genius composer and band leader.
@@brin57 What the f..k am I reading? Unless you're only into shredding and pentatonic bending-wankery, sure FZ was a hack...
I remember seeing Frank Zappa at Stanford University when I was a kid. Maples Pavilion to be exact. I didn't have the ability at the time to really appreciate him. Everything I know about him I've learned since then. Truly a great loss
You can see how tense Frank gets when even considering having to compliment another musician.
The passage of the electric guitar can be defined as Before Hendrix and After Hendrix
Truly amazing that Jimi could remember how all his songs go. He must have had a photographic memory. And doing all those drugs
I learned today that a true musician is someone who can take a score from one instrument, and translate that musical score into one that can be read and played on another instrument. Making many many people who call themselves musicians, not musicians. These are vocalists, guitarists, pianists, drummers. A person who is a master at an instrument is not a musician. Unless you can play it on every instrument, and read it in the form of musical notes. My mind is blown.
I’m a mere vocalist. That’s it 😂
Your thoughts on his music? "Well there's a lot he needed to improve on like scoring his own music and definitely getting off the guitar". Yeah okay Frank. I've heard your soulless guitar solos. 'Hey Joe', 'Little Wing', 'Castles made of sand', 'The Wind Cries Mary', 'Voodoo Chile' and 'Crosstown Traffic' are masterpieces. I think Zappa was a great comedian.
Do you have any idea how highly he just praised Jimi? Goes to show idiots will always confidently make themselves look stupid on the internet😂
No! Jimi had no need to write anything down he composed on the spot and his guitar tone was perfect. Job done.
There was likely a lot of hendrix music lost because he simply forgot he had written it, because he couldn't write it down.
@@SufferDYT As fellow guitarist not able to write music notation... if I think something's worth keeping I just record a rough version.
@PsychedelicGoo In 1965 that was sort of out of reach most of the time
@@SufferDYT I thought that was around the time cassette recorders became available to the public.
@@PsychedelicGoo Cassettes hit the market in 68, handheld recorders were very expensive and mostly used by businessmen and journalists. I think most people were using reel to reel at that point
As someone who’s 2 favorite guitarists are Jimi Hendrix and Frank Zappa, I wish Frank would have said something positive about Jimi’s amazing talent. But Frank always said what was on his mind, and I admire him for that.
Imagining Jimi dancing and ripping his pants open is hilarious lmao
Jimi was a genius, Frank comes off as envious of his talent.
Absolutely. Frank was very limited as a musician and used his irrelevant ability to read and write music as a way to pretentiously dismiss such talents as Jimi Hendrix.
@@JonathanNelsonOfficial you have no clue
@@jeffreywilliams2240 about what? That Frank Zappa is apart of an alliance operation created by the Kennedy family used to manipulate the media and false consciousness of the country?
@@JonathanNelsonOfficial never heard that one please enlighten us.
@Jeffrey Williams. I’m hoping @Jonathan Nelson was being sarcastic? If not, then I share your sentiment
Zappa was always full of himself. Like he was above it all.
He was full of himself. But…. He also was above it all. Way above.
Yup. A bit of a self important prick.
Like you saying it. He was above average people, very smart and always to the point. Very honest and forthright. He talked no shit.
HE WAS...
Zappa did not look down on people he was smarter or more literate than.
Frank made sure he still had all of his microphones.
What a great story. "One day Buddy Guy and Jimmy Hendrix came over to my house. Buddy sat down and passed out, and Jimmy did a dance and ripped his pants." I wish I had a story like that.
I like Frank's voice
He had a lovely speaking voice!!
I like his music, but man he’s not one of those ‘I could hang out with that guy” type of characters! Lmfao.
Judging by the descriptions of various hangouts Frank had with people like Adrian Belew, Steve Vai, Terry Bozzio, Eddie Van Halen, etc, as well as his many erudite comments in articles he wrote and interviews, an opportunity to hang out with Frank would be a rare treat indeed. He might be a little intimidating, But he'd never bore you, and he was probably the most honest person in the music industry.
Maybe his bluntness put some people off, but it's one of the best and rarest things about him; Nobody ever had to wonder if he was b*********** them or not; as he described his relationship with the fans "we have a relationship where they know we're not messing around"; the most respectful attitude toward fans of any musician. Now that you mention it I can't think of any musician I would rather have a beer with.
@@Gregorypeckory Shut up Greg you look like a psychopath frustrated that he never made it as a musician. Stick to whacking it.
I think @Greg Vinson has a crush on doucé Zappy.
@@watchingyou5003 Homophobic much? I'm not going to be gay shamed for being a fan of the brilliant Zappa. Try again, dummy.
@@JonathanNelsonOfficial Good point, well stated. Kidding; totally moronic post. 😅
Frank was a great man and wonderful musician! I was able to see him in Md many years back! He even showed a film! Sad he passed away so soon!
He's incredibly articulate. So we'll spoken. I saw him live in the early 80's. it was a great show. One of my favorites.
2 underappreciated musicians
Jimi is not under appreciated lmao
This guy lowkey dissin EVERYBODY.
It's nice to hear one musical genius talking about another....
We could sure use both of them today...🙏🇬🇧🎸❤️😢
Frank was a genius. RIP
Seemed he always had to cut people down to make himself better. He invited Clapton onstage to jam and then led the band through a bunch of ridiculous changes that would’ve been impossible to follow coming in cold. Had to knock “God” off his pedestal, though Clapton himself spent a career trying to get away from that image. Judging by Electric Ladyland - his last fully realized project - I’d say Jimi’s method worked pretty fucking well.
He gave Hendrix a compliment here.
And Clapton surely knew what was coming when being invited by Zappa onstage.
Like, no, it’s obvious that during a Zappa show you don’t play a 12-bar blues in Em for half an hour
You have a point, but I’m sure Clapton wasn’t offended that zappa was zappa no matter who else is on stage. That was sort of his thing. “I do what I do and you don’t have to like it, there are plenty of other people you can listen to, I offer what I offer”. He’s not gonna change his whole act just because some celebrity comes onstage, and I’m sure Clapton was well aware of that, because it was kind of Zappa’s _whole thing._ He did not make that a secret. Clapton would have had to have known that, unless he had met Frank two minutes earlier that night.
Additionally, this is a very hateable way of giving a compliment, it shows he can’t just be positive, even his compliments seem combative and critical. And it is inherently a compliment via criticism. Which is the mark of an annoying individual. Probably a pretentious one. But it is a compliment nonetheless. “Jimmy needed someone to translate “genius” to “sheet music”, because he was really a composer at heart that should have been commanding huge complex arrangements”. His music was great but it is a good point. Jimmy had an incredible feel that deserved a more intricate expression from a larger arrangement. The work he did was great, but had he lived longer it would have become pretty clear over time that his music’s biggest limitation was being stuck on three or four instruments. He could have done some really groundbreaking stuff, perhaps on the order of “Sargent pepper’s”, stuff that the world has never conceived still, some 75+ years later. We’re never going to know what we were robbed of in that regard.
I think it’s great he wasn’t technically classed as a musician but he was a free spirit and totally totally changed the world of guitar.
That's a hilarious story. Glad I'm studying piano/reading music it's helping me tons with guitar.
I'll say this, there's a long list of musicians I respect the most who never had any formal training.
That’s not what he’s saying. Jimmy has songs that he would play differently every time because he couldn’t write down the cords, which made it difficult for a band to spot him. It’s like a jazz session every night