Something that I find kind of interesting is how Ganondorf addresses Rauru after becoming the Demon King. He's clearly on a power trip before Rauru shows up and after Rauru and Zelda escape, but when he actually confronts the Zonai King, he seems remarkably serious for someone who just became a dark god of unparalleled might. I mean, you only see his face once during the speech, but he's gone from "maniacal evil grin" to "stern frown" and his tone sounds more disappointed and admonishing than triumphant or mocking. It's like he's less amused at his triumph and more genuinely annoyed that Rauru DIDN'T abuse the power of the Secret Stone to dominate everyone and rule by fear and overwhelming force. And when Rauru brings up a shield against his Gloom attack, Ganondorf's scowl could be seen as exertion to try and break through...or irritation that Rauru is STILL opting to protect rather than attack. His reaction after Zelda teleports herself, Rauru, and Sonia's corpse away comes off as immediate disappointment that he was denied an epic battle with his now-equal opponent, followed by him rationalizing it as a sign that he's become even STRONGER than Rauru himself and can thus begin conquering/destroying Hyrule with his new army.
Also, look at the way he refers to Rauru. When swearing fealty, he calls Rauru ‘Your Majesty’, however he refers to him by name now, showing that he has enough backup power to protect himself should Rauru attack due to this disrespect.
In all forms, Ganondorf respects power, and how one uses that power. In that moment, when he holds power comparable to Rauru's, he's ashamed to think Rauru could have power like this and use it so sparingly, wasting his might defending rather than striking. Especially arrogant he holds Rauru to blame for Sonia's death, like he's not the one who just murdered her.
@@byronsmothers8064 To be fair, it's entirely within Ganondorf's character to project himself onto others. In his mind, Rauru not only could, but SHOULD have used his awesome power to dominate everyone and everything he surveys, if only to stop someone like Ganondorf from exploiting his restraint to achieve similar or greater power (which IS kind of what happened). Additionally, it could be implied that Ganondorf thinks that Rauru was relying on the mere perception of his true power to keep everyone in line, never considering that someone would be cunning and ambitious enough to find a means to gain a similar power. It's still very arrogant of Ganondorf to blame Rauru for Sonia's demise, but it makes sense from his "megalomaniacal warlord" perspective - if Rauru had been more decisive and/or paranoid, he could have stopped Ganondorf (lethally or otherwise) long before he could claim a Secret Stone. And, ultimately, as Rauru himself says later, that same arrogance will be his undoing.
I don't think you can use the Power of Light to, you know, dominate and rule by fear. The Secret Stones may be impartial, but the power they amplify is the person's own. Someone seething with evil and being a tyrant probably won't ever carry the Power of Light. At worst, I see someone with Light Power perhaps having a selfish streak they work to fight against, since they also are very aware of right and wrong and are empathic to suffering. Eugh...it's complicated. Or I'm too tired to overthink it, one.
To be fair, Zelda has just seen the Demon King's ascension and knows that he's too powerful for Rauru - if he wasn't, why would he be sealed untold eons later instead of flat-out dead? Combination of panic, denial, and desperation led her to say the first thing that came to mind to hold Rauru back from straight-up throwing hands with Ganondorf then and there.
I mean I guess it maybe wasn't certain yet, like a punch in the back seems survivable enough and hope is a pretty big part of Zelda's personality, so I guess she had a vain hope of there still being a chance for her.
Okay...the weirdo in my has thought from the first that all of Ganondorf's grunting and heaving sounds, with him bent over like that, made it appear as if he was about to have a major attack of diarrhea. Also, on a more serious note, that Secret Stone's enhancing his evil darkness also meant that it wiped out his caring for his own people, if he had any to begin with. His dark bow does bear the names of his mothers who raised him, so he probably did love them before his transformation and kept that bit on a whim, since in earlier games those two, in another lifetime, pandered and encouraged another Ganondorf's dark tendencies. He probably wouldn't have made as far as he did without them, but after transforming, he certainly had no more need for them. Probably keeping their names on his bow felt like a sufficient nod to them. And on a third thought...Ganondorf loves the thrill of battle. I can't be the only one who ever thought that, having, for the sake of argument, conquered Hyrule, that after a few years of only having his mindless loyal servants to hang around him and for him to interact with, this Demon King would become _bored out of his mind?_ There's nobody left to kill and nothing left to conquer. Evil won. Ganondorf's focus has always been Hyrule. Would boredom make him so desperate for action that he'd turn on other lands? Did that Blood Moon show only over Hyrule, and seem normal to the rest of the world and other lands? And, finally, a last potential scenario for the sake of humorous argument...Ganondorf finally breaking free of his seal, only to find "he" had already done the deed a century before when Calamity Ganon ruined everything, left the Princess dead, and killed the Hero. I pictured Ganondorf cursing...well, himself, realizing what happened and wanting to kick the big PigDorf for ruining all his fun before he could have it, because his mind had been too asleep to know about it!
@@PlayCJ I would have loved more backstory with this incarnation of Ganondorf; but this game wasted no time in cutting right to the chase. The Secret Stone made him become as close to being Demise as possible, without actually BEING Demise. It is as if Demise's curse tries harder and harder with each incarnation to fully bring Demise back into existence. In the past I used to discuss how it would be if Ganondorf somehow redeemed himself after realizing what really controlled his actions, that HE was born because of a curse from someone else. He isn't Demise reborn; he's the product of a curse. To be honest, I don't think Ganondorf would ever be redeemed, BUT I can see an incarnation that, if he finds out what's going on, decide that he doesn't want to be a part of it. He'll be evil and do his own thing, and not bother with a princess and a swordsman, because no damned curse is gonna dictate what he does! (Okay that last bit was humorous.) PS, I apologize, but when I am super tired and it is super late, my thoughts run at a million miles per hour, and my fingers can barely keep up. Sorry for the long posts. Lol
@@ZeoViolet The whole point of the Curse of Demise is that its end goal is to have Ganondorf eventually become Demise entirely. "I WILL rise again!" is exactly what he said at the end of Skyward Sword, after all. Every time Ganondorf incarnates, he's more Demise and less Ganondorf.
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Something that I find kind of interesting is how Ganondorf addresses Rauru after becoming the Demon King. He's clearly on a power trip before Rauru shows up and after Rauru and Zelda escape, but when he actually confronts the Zonai King, he seems remarkably serious for someone who just became a dark god of unparalleled might.
I mean, you only see his face once during the speech, but he's gone from "maniacal evil grin" to "stern frown" and his tone sounds more disappointed and admonishing than triumphant or mocking. It's like he's less amused at his triumph and more genuinely annoyed that Rauru DIDN'T abuse the power of the Secret Stone to dominate everyone and rule by fear and overwhelming force. And when Rauru brings up a shield against his Gloom attack, Ganondorf's scowl could be seen as exertion to try and break through...or irritation that Rauru is STILL opting to protect rather than attack. His reaction after Zelda teleports herself, Rauru, and Sonia's corpse away comes off as immediate disappointment that he was denied an epic battle with his now-equal opponent, followed by him rationalizing it as a sign that he's become even STRONGER than Rauru himself and can thus begin conquering/destroying Hyrule with his new army.
Also, look at the way he refers to Rauru. When swearing fealty, he calls Rauru ‘Your Majesty’, however he refers to him by name now, showing that he has enough backup power to protect himself should Rauru attack due to this disrespect.
In all forms, Ganondorf respects power, and how one uses that power. In that moment, when he holds power comparable to Rauru's, he's ashamed to think Rauru could have power like this and use it so sparingly, wasting his might defending rather than striking.
Especially arrogant he holds Rauru to blame for Sonia's death, like he's not the one who just murdered her.
@@byronsmothers8064 To be fair, it's entirely within Ganondorf's character to project himself onto others. In his mind, Rauru not only could, but SHOULD have used his awesome power to dominate everyone and everything he surveys, if only to stop someone like Ganondorf from exploiting his restraint to achieve similar or greater power (which IS kind of what happened). Additionally, it could be implied that Ganondorf thinks that Rauru was relying on the mere perception of his true power to keep everyone in line, never considering that someone would be cunning and ambitious enough to find a means to gain a similar power.
It's still very arrogant of Ganondorf to blame Rauru for Sonia's demise, but it makes sense from his "megalomaniacal warlord" perspective - if Rauru had been more decisive and/or paranoid, he could have stopped Ganondorf (lethally or otherwise) long before he could claim a Secret Stone. And, ultimately, as Rauru himself says later, that same arrogance will be his undoing.
I don't think you can use the Power of Light to, you know, dominate and rule by fear. The Secret Stones may be impartial, but the power they amplify is the person's own. Someone seething with evil and being a tyrant probably won't ever carry the Power of Light. At worst, I see someone with Light Power perhaps having a selfish streak they work to fight against, since they also are very aware of right and wrong and are empathic to suffering. Eugh...it's complicated. Or I'm too tired to overthink it, one.
1:53 "And this... is to go...even further...beyond!!!"
damn ssj 3 Ganondorf
How this hasn't been made yet is insane 😅
“King rauru! Queen Sonia needs you!”
She’s dead dumb*ss
She was never the sharpest tool in the shed
To be fair, Zelda has just seen the Demon King's ascension and knows that he's too powerful for Rauru - if he wasn't, why would he be sealed untold eons later instead of flat-out dead? Combination of panic, denial, and desperation led her to say the first thing that came to mind to hold Rauru back from straight-up throwing hands with Ganondorf then and there.
@mattshinde3614 Not to mention the location wouldn’t make sense in the plot
@@TheInfinitySagaEnjoyer That too.
I mean I guess it maybe wasn't certain yet, like a punch in the back seems survivable enough and hope is a pretty big part of Zelda's personality, so I guess she had a vain hope of there still being a chance for her.
Generally speaking, i think that majority of the memories im totk are better than the memories in botw
Agreed. Kinda wish they allowed us to play out some of the memories.
Nah. Nothing tops Zelda looking at flowers.
Okay...the weirdo in my has thought from the first that all of Ganondorf's grunting and heaving sounds, with him bent over like that, made it appear as if he was about to have a major attack of diarrhea.
Also, on a more serious note, that Secret Stone's enhancing his evil darkness also meant that it wiped out his caring for his own people, if he had any to begin with. His dark bow does bear the names of his mothers who raised him, so he probably did love them before his transformation and kept that bit on a whim, since in earlier games those two, in another lifetime, pandered and encouraged another Ganondorf's dark tendencies. He probably wouldn't have made as far as he did without them, but after transforming, he certainly had no more need for them. Probably keeping their names on his bow felt like a sufficient nod to them.
And on a third thought...Ganondorf loves the thrill of battle. I can't be the only one who ever thought that, having, for the sake of argument, conquered Hyrule, that after a few years of only having his mindless loyal servants to hang around him and for him to interact with, this Demon King would become _bored out of his mind?_ There's nobody left to kill and nothing left to conquer. Evil won. Ganondorf's focus has always been Hyrule. Would boredom make him so desperate for action that he'd turn on other lands? Did that Blood Moon show only over Hyrule, and seem normal to the rest of the world and other lands?
And, finally, a last potential scenario for the sake of humorous argument...Ganondorf finally breaking free of his seal, only to find "he" had already done the deed a century before when Calamity Ganon ruined everything, left the Princess dead, and killed the Hero. I pictured Ganondorf cursing...well, himself, realizing what happened and wanting to kick the big PigDorf for ruining all his fun before he could have it, because his mind had been too asleep to know about it!
Great observation! Kinda wish we had more backstory with the character to flesh out his motivations.
@@PlayCJ I would have loved more backstory with this incarnation of Ganondorf; but this game wasted no time in cutting right to the chase. The Secret Stone made him become as close to being Demise as possible, without actually BEING Demise.
It is as if Demise's curse tries harder and harder with each incarnation to fully bring Demise back into existence.
In the past I used to discuss how it would be if Ganondorf somehow redeemed himself after realizing what really controlled his actions, that HE was born because of a curse from someone else. He isn't Demise reborn; he's the product of a curse.
To be honest, I don't think Ganondorf would ever be redeemed, BUT I can see an incarnation that, if he finds out what's going on, decide that he doesn't want to be a part of it. He'll be evil and do his own thing, and not bother with a princess and a swordsman, because no damned curse is gonna dictate what he does! (Okay that last bit was humorous.)
PS, I apologize, but when I am super tired and it is super late, my thoughts run at a million miles per hour, and my fingers can barely keep up. Sorry for the long posts. Lol
@@ZeoViolet The whole point of the Curse of Demise is that its end goal is to have Ganondorf eventually become Demise entirely. "I WILL rise again!" is exactly what he said at the end of Skyward Sword, after all. Every time Ganondorf incarnates, he's more Demise and less Ganondorf.
Blood moon has to be a Hyrule thing seeing as it’s supernatural. Plus it’s night there but day somewhere else
definitely sadest memorie of all
:( rip queen sonia
So true!
bruh i aint seen this cutscene before and i thought zelda pulling out her purah pad at 4:02 was to snap a pic
hngh
hgnh