Technique or Strength - What's best for climbing?

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  • Опубліковано 16 гру 2024

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  • @EmilAbrahamsson
    @EmilAbrahamsson  8 місяців тому +279

    Hey all, firstly I'm just gonna clarify something: I used the word "Flash" a bit incorrectly here, I'm referring to a concept called "day-flashing", which is when you do the boulder on the first go of the day. Flash is technically doing a climb on the first attempt, which maybe half of these boulders were. The other half we had tried on previous sessions! For the sake of the competition we couldn't do proper flashes, since we had either tried or climbed many of the boulders in the gym already.
    Also, production speed has been a bit lower lately as I've been editing a monster of a video (film from Lofoten last summer with Matilda), and on Monday I'm off to Tokyo for 2 weeks for a bunch of fun film stuff, so expect May to be packed with content!

    • @richtercl98
      @richtercl98 8 місяців тому

      we all gonna be psyched for may! 🔥

    • @maxfern5701
      @maxfern5701 8 місяців тому +5

      Off to Japan uh? Filming with some other youtuber maybe? 😏

    • @Mvtrixx
      @Mvtrixx 5 місяців тому

      ​@@maxfern5701 called it

    • @MartialManiaK
      @MartialManiaK 3 місяці тому

      Just one question: are you sure with the grading? Cuz many of the V7 to V9 boulders looked a lot like what I am almost doing in my gym and they are like max V4 or V5. That is a huge difference to jump like 3 to 4 grades. Like the yellow one at 10:50 looked a lot like a V5, maaaybe V6 to me but then again I am only climbing V2 to V4 maybe. Anyway, the grades seemed pretty high despite the boulder not looking that complicated.

    • @Mvtrixx
      @Mvtrixx 2 місяці тому

      ​@@MartialManiaK it probably looks a lot better than it is considering they were both somewhat struggling and they're both super strong, Emil's climbed v15 and if he's struggling on a boulder I don't think it's v5 lol

  • @m1dnightcrashb862
    @m1dnightcrashb862 8 місяців тому +38

    17:42 "I've been lied to" 😂 my new favourite climbing quote

  • @chasingfelix3609
    @chasingfelix3609 8 місяців тому +284

    As a climber whose strength let him advance quickly without gaining as much technique, this is the perfect video to help me improve!

    • @idaveje383
      @idaveje383 8 місяців тому +11

      I wish i were you.

    • @chasingfelix3609
      @chasingfelix3609 8 місяців тому +34

      @@idaveje383 sorry if it came off bragging. It was not intended that way. What I’m saying is that I got through a few grades fast but my technique is awful because of it. So to actually be a good climber, I need to develop that technique.

    • @idaveje383
      @idaveje383 8 місяців тому +32

      @@chasingfelix3609 No,no I did not mean it like you were rude or anything. It's just that im the opposite of you. I have good technique but hard to build strength so I wish I had easy to build strength thats all. It was a joke lol. Sorry if It came off as rude, mb

    • @chasingfelix3609
      @chasingfelix3609 8 місяців тому +21

      @@idaveje383 you’re good! Hopefully we can gain more of what we are missing and keep getting better.

    • @CalsaJM
      @CalsaJM 8 місяців тому +95

      Nicest internet interaction I’ve seen and faith in people restored aha

  • @GauravBe
    @GauravBe 8 місяців тому +31

    "Fearless competition" and then proceed to encourage and support each other through each climb

    • @acecel
      @acecel 3 місяці тому +1

      All climbers are very very encouraging of each others, and i would say most athletes in fact, except some assholes of course

  • @nicolodalmonego2785
    @nicolodalmonego2785 8 місяців тому +69

    I like how Emil watches Matilda climbing as if he's watching an exotic animal😂

  • @thebooduck
    @thebooduck 8 місяців тому +42

    The dynamic between the two of you is so smooth, makes for a great watch!
    Gotta love the "Yeah Boi!" at 18:55 😂

  • @JKimPersonal
    @JKimPersonal 8 місяців тому +429

    Trick question. We all know from Magnus it’s hidden option number 3. Taking your shirt off.

  • @SpaceBotany
    @SpaceBotany 8 місяців тому +28

    Always love the collabs with Mathilda, such a good time.

  • @Javiertr86
    @Javiertr86 8 місяців тому +17

    Great video! Idea for another competition: pick a not too hard boulder V3-V5 you both have to climb and each time one of you gets to remove one intermediate hold, the first who can't climb it while the other still can loses

    • @madinge711
      @madinge711 8 місяців тому +1

      That’s actually so fire

  • @just_johannes
    @just_johannes 8 місяців тому +13

    Love to see Matilda here, you both compliment each other so well. Y'all should do a summer trip with Pete and Tom again, that clip was extrodinary entertaining

  • @daffydus
    @daffydus 8 місяців тому +9

    "Are we here climbing boulders or solving differential equations?" - Emil Abrahamsson 😂 8:12 That has to be the quote of this video

  • @theoamvr
    @theoamvr 8 місяців тому +114

    The stakes should be that whoever loses will be allowed to do only crack climbing for the next 6 months! Pete will be stoked 😉

    • @garronfish8227
      @garronfish8227 8 місяців тому +1

      I think make it that they need to complete some hard crack problem in that gym before they can do anything else

    • @carljohantihkan2035
      @carljohantihkan2035 5 місяців тому +1

      Naaaa let the loser eat surströmming >:D We all love suströmming in sweden right? One the real way with bread, potatoes, red onion, leeks, dill, creme fraiche and optional Västerbottenost, and one whole the "american way for the viewes" ;)

  • @tessaabedon8267
    @tessaabedon8267 7 місяців тому +9

    i could not possibly be more excited for matilda to have her own channel

  • @JPsk8core
    @JPsk8core 8 місяців тому +9

    I love her style, the change of beta of the first problem blown my mind :O

  • @gingobingo1567
    @gingobingo1567 8 місяців тому +88

    Like the sturdy foundation beneath a soaring tower, strength and technique intertwine in the ascent of mastery. One without the other leaves the climber incomplete, for strength fuels ambition while technique guides the path. In the crucible of challenge, they are not adversaries, but allies, forging resilience and precision. Embrace both, for in their harmonious balance, we find the summit of possibility.

    • @valkata1997
      @valkata1997 8 місяців тому +7

      wow what a beautifully written comment

    • @EmilAbrahamsson
      @EmilAbrahamsson  8 місяців тому +35

      While I may have gone with a more bone-headed mentality in this video, I actually really appreciate this way of describing the two! Beautiful

    • @Radian-Absolute
      @Radian-Absolute 8 місяців тому +1

      Bot

    • @Robert-zt5zt
      @Robert-zt5zt 8 місяців тому

      Nice use of ChatGPT 👍🏼

    • @ayuminor
      @ayuminor 8 місяців тому +6

      Me no understand those words, me PULL!

  • @blindgeorged6386
    @blindgeorged6386 8 місяців тому +29

    I will 100% be subscribing to Matilda’s channel

  • @Djellowman
    @Djellowman 20 днів тому +1

    wow i'm so impressed with how Matilda climbed that first route. Just perfect technique!

  • @alvaroc6326
    @alvaroc6326 8 місяців тому +2

    As a fellow power junky I'm happy you finally beat technique.

  • @WoMoLu
    @WoMoLu 8 місяців тому +9

    Just got back from a bad climbing session-but Emil has uploaded… Ill take that! Love your content

  • @mb4999
    @mb4999 8 місяців тому +3

    Matilda's lock off strength is crazy! Thanks for another awesome video of two of my favorite climbers ❤

  • @Betweentwogames
    @Betweentwogames 8 місяців тому +6

    Just got done climbing. Stoked to watch.

  • @hydra66
    @hydra66 8 місяців тому +1

    When Emil has an incredible climbing day, the rest of us can only dream

  • @AA-nx8zy
    @AA-nx8zy 8 місяців тому +3

    Whoever loses has to do an easy boulder for an insane amount of repetitions. Awesome video. Mathilda climbs with such impeccable grace, and the positions you can generate power from is equally as graceful in an aggressive way. Thank you for uploading.

    • @Radian-Absolute
      @Radian-Absolute 8 місяців тому

      Yeah! let’s get them tendonitis 😄. . . How bout no

    • @AA-nx8zy
      @AA-nx8zy 8 місяців тому

      @Radian-Absolute They've been climbing for a long time, I'm sure they're aware of when it becomes too much. Can understand your point of view though.

  • @carpet7664
    @carpet7664 8 місяців тому +16

    He broke that boulder so much without even meaning to that’s crazy

  • @HexDeckTD
    @HexDeckTD Місяць тому

    thank you for just climbing more when you were done that's cool you two were clearly just hanging out

  • @M0dElite
    @M0dElite 8 місяців тому +6

    In the spirit of the new combined olympics format, I think it would be interesting to see at least one route put into the mix. I have a hunch that your different styles become even more apparent in the lead wall 😉

  • @dantelaw7759
    @dantelaw7759 8 місяців тому +1

    Love the videos with Matilda! Any competition between the two of you needs to include some techy lead climbing though, otherwise it just won't be matched!

  • @theoamvr
    @theoamvr 8 місяців тому +4

    Also, would be awesome to see a flash-off with Nikken! He's been looking very strong

  • @havardbekkevold7255
    @havardbekkevold7255 8 місяців тому +3

    Always good vibes in your videos 🌞🖐

  • @DanDrag-un6qy
    @DanDrag-un6qy 8 місяців тому +2

    Indoor bouldering... It's somewhere between a v7 to v9
    Outdoor bouldering... It took me two years to go from v7 to v9

  • @3delweiss
    @3delweiss 8 місяців тому +1

    Great Video! You two work so great together as a pair
    I'm hyped to see the next one!
    Looser has to visit the cellar and try all the weird stuff Pete is doing down there?

  • @flyingmobias
    @flyingmobias 8 місяців тому +6

    Seems dynamic climbers might commit more and flash more. Might rely more on luck (and have more opportunities from more strength). Flashing isn't everything of course. We all know power and technique are key. Rock climbers are elitely technical n precise already compared to nearly every other sport.. static climbers may be more analytic which is fine. #thoughts

  • @emterroso
    @emterroso 8 місяців тому +5

    It's like watching a Shaolin master vs. a barbarian.

  • @colemiller6529
    @colemiller6529 8 місяців тому +3

    I also have the technique where I just try as hard as I can on every Boulder. Probably why I tore my bicep...

  • @Kaygu_
    @Kaygu_ 8 місяців тому

    yay I just watched the previous contest between you a few days ago. Perfect timing !

  • @adventure_shadows
    @adventure_shadows 8 місяців тому +2

    Mathilda is in a such controool 🤩 Static rules!

  • @jonnes__4657
    @jonnes__4657 8 місяців тому +1

    🗽 Love to see Matilda again... 💖
    .

  • @joshuadonovan3812
    @joshuadonovan3812 8 місяців тому +1

    Emil at 6:53
    So happy to score two points. 😂

  • @SBanderaB
    @SBanderaB 7 місяців тому +2

    silly question - with no strength you can't climb anything. this is why even novices who are strong do better than the average climber who has been climbing for years. now I will watch the video.....back now, brilliant video, great entertainment, loved it.

  • @perfection-r
    @perfection-r Місяць тому

    For higher stakes: I know quite a few of us locals at Moumo would love to watch a session like this live, having a beer and cheering you on, so make it an event next time! 🙏

  • @ameliajones4641
    @ameliajones4641 7 місяців тому +2

    I wish they tried each other’s beta, would’ve been really interesting!

  • @sebastianp4665
    @sebastianp4665 8 місяців тому +1

    Would love to see you in Japan at B-pump, really interesting to see how you do on those grades. Bring Nikken, have him set with them and exchange setting culture. And bring Magnus, because he's always adding an extra flare :D

  • @Idiomatick
    @Idiomatick 8 місяців тому +11

    Real title:
    Strength + Technique or Technique + Strength?

    • @bullydungeon9631
      @bullydungeon9631 8 місяців тому +1

      It feels like logically the winner is strength + technique, can't maximize your strength on the wall with good technique unless you have strength to maximize

  • @KunalKishanMehta
    @KunalKishanMehta 8 місяців тому

    Emil makes everything look like a v2, it is not fair

  • @maxfern5701
    @maxfern5701 8 місяців тому +1

    8:50 completely destroyed the beta 😂

  • @Olixer109
    @Olixer109 8 місяців тому

    You need a good combination of both to be really good. Me and my friend climb the same level and he's twice as strong as me but not as technical.

  • @L1quidbrick
    @L1quidbrick 8 місяців тому +4

    Matildas ape index looksmcrazy

  • @mitchell8182
    @mitchell8182 8 місяців тому +3

    sick🤙

  • @chicken2433
    @chicken2433 8 місяців тому

    cant wait to see matildas crack climbing video

  • @SHMOUSEY86
    @SHMOUSEY86 Місяць тому

    I like to use power to find a beta, and then technique to refine/break that beta.

  • @cycubus7643
    @cycubus7643 7 місяців тому +1

    We need a new Cordi video!!

  • @Rockhug
    @Rockhug 8 місяців тому +1

    Static climbing doesn't mean its more technical, just meaning its different. Static climbing doesn't mean its more efficient. Sometime it is, sometime it isn't, it does depend on the problem and your body morphology for said problem.

  • @franlep3811
    @franlep3811 8 місяців тому +4

    So there is a land where everybody is handsome and practice bouldering …
    Where is it ?

  • @Niels4156
    @Niels4156 8 місяців тому

    Competition idea: outdoor sport climb, either os comp or day send comp

  • @guilhermesoares7857
    @guilhermesoares7857 8 місяців тому

    Tips for begginers to increase the endurance so climbing sessions can take as long as yours? 😅I'm thinking sport climbing probably helps, but I don't know other methods

  • @dizietz
    @dizietz 8 місяців тому

    I haven't seen technique till I climbed at bpump ogikuboro for 3 months straight and watched japanese world cup climbers climb!

    • @dizietz
      @dizietz 8 місяців тому

      (though to be honest they are also strong... but in a different way)

  • @matesoleee
    @matesoleee 8 місяців тому

    Amazing video!

  • @junkfire4554
    @junkfire4554 2 місяці тому

    strength. you can compensate for a lack of technique with raw power and more importantly, if you're strong you can quickly and easily learn technique with some coaching or self awareness, but no amount of technique can compensate for a lack of strength. if you're not strong you can't even stay on the wall long enough to learn or use technique in the first place + your injury risk goes up since you have less control on the wall. But as Emil said, Matilda is far from weak, so this isn't a real vs 😅

  • @Basti12293
    @Basti12293 8 місяців тому

    For the Problem at about 9 minutes
    The route setter: uh some nice moves i planned there
    Emil: why are there so many holds?

  • @ModestG0ld
    @ModestG0ld 7 місяців тому

    this is random but I saw a TikTok saying Swedish accent sounds like stitch from lil and stitch and I can't stop hearing it now! anyone else?

  • @ReaperUnreal
    @ReaperUnreal 8 місяців тому +1

    Got it, I'll work on my one-armers and forget about technique. This was definitely the takeaway of this video. 👍
    As for a competition, maybe some sort of bouldery lead route competition, with a very cold dip into a river or lake as punishment.

  • @hvanderwolk
    @hvanderwolk 8 місяців тому

    ....Dollar challenge: 4 slab boulders v9 to v11, 4 crimp style boulders v9 to v11, 4 dynamic boulders v9 to v11, 4 physical boulders v9 to v11. Good luck🎉

  • @Theaddekalk
    @Theaddekalk 8 місяців тому

    grat vid, you need both. but i seen alot of strong people not coming nowehere onn a climb, but if you train climbing style "strength" what ever that is you can come a longer then a short way, but you gonna need some techniuqe in the end. but with technuiqe you can come a long long way, and the thing hindering you in the en dis strenght. so you need both 100% but techniuqe is op XD

  • @TheHujosh
    @TheHujosh 8 місяців тому

    "There is no such thing as too much strength" W.G.

  • @MeriadocMyr
    @MeriadocMyr 8 місяців тому +1

    I will patiently await demon Matilda

  • @christophertolosa7142
    @christophertolosa7142 8 місяців тому +1

    Deep water soloing with Matilda. Loser falls in 😅

  • @MrJarastamon
    @MrJarastamon 8 місяців тому +4

    Good technique comes with strength, it's hard to exercise proper techinue when you can barely hold a position or hold. Conversely strength comes with good technique. Good technique and positioning can make a strong move easier.

    • @billking8843
      @billking8843 7 місяців тому

      If you watch raw beginners, many of them (especially those whose pronouns are he/ him) often use their impressive strength to avoid learning to climb efficiently. Women often learn efficient climbing quickly then add strength quite naturally, then start crushing it and leaving their boyfriend behind. Leads to quite a few breakups when the guy gets jealous.

  • @unvexis
    @unvexis 8 місяців тому

    I’m pretty beat after just three hours of hard bouldering. I imagine being able to go hard for eight hours straight helped a lot with training for competitions.

  • @nabilkabbadj7759
    @nabilkabbadj7759 8 місяців тому

    Here's an idea about the stakes : how about a championship belt ?

  • @dsmeier6270
    @dsmeier6270 8 місяців тому +1

    Dang she is so good.

  • @matteobecchi1210
    @matteobecchi1210 8 місяців тому

    You could take a bunch of climbers of mixed levels, coach them a bit and then do a team competition.

  • @ayuminor
    @ayuminor 8 місяців тому +1

    MATILDAAAAA whoop whoop!

  • @ayuminor
    @ayuminor 8 місяців тому +1

    If you're brave you can take reference from Anna Hazelnutt's challenge videos. Going up to a stranger and twerk at them, do a pistol squat on the gym's front desk and having the winner draw anything they want on you with a big ol' marker, just to name a few of their loser punishments. That ought to bring out the demon :P

  • @santiagogc427
    @santiagogc427 8 місяців тому

    Saw a video where it said that swedish girls speaking english sound like Sticht and… I’m sorry Matilda but I can’t unhear it now

  • @JaysenTC
    @JaysenTC 8 місяців тому +8

    Doesn't flash mean never done the boulder before?

    • @Cqat1
      @Cqat1 8 місяців тому +3

      Flash means doing the boulder on your very first try, with the knowledge of how it is supposed to be climbed or after at least having looked at someone climb the route beforehand. Onsight means flashing a route, but without any knowledge of how it is supposed to be climbed, essentially doing it "blind".

    • @SelcraigClimbs
      @SelcraigClimbs 8 місяців тому +3

      @@Cqat1 I think their point was that Emil and Matilda had done some of the boulders already before this video thus not being a true flash challenge. I guess you could count them as day-flashes so it still works 🤷‍♂️

    • @JaysenTC
      @JaysenTC 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Cqat1 ah thanks. I thought onsight meant you tried it another day but failed, yours is a much better definition!

  • @jarrej7185
    @jarrej7185 8 місяців тому

    Strength pushes up your max grade, while good technique lets you send with less attempts? It's very boulder dependent tho

  • @brekkoh
    @brekkoh 8 місяців тому

    Wait, on the first boulder emil said they both tried it before, but he said he flashed it? Does that mean it can be still be considered a flash if you have previous attempts? have i misunderstood that terminology this whole time

    • @stonehouse1
      @stonehouse1 8 місяців тому

      Nope, you’ve understood right. Flash is first go, what this actually is is a ‘retro-flash challenge’ 😊

    • @jp-wo6cq
      @jp-wo6cq 8 місяців тому

      also a lot of people will call it a "day flash" if they have already tried and but do it first try of the day

  • @RomanGuro
    @RomanGuro 6 місяців тому

    4:26 doesn't count)) step on the yellow hold 😅

  • @Pratyaksh-qy9uc
    @Pratyaksh-qy9uc 7 місяців тому +70

    Just marry her already

  • @FoxxyCZ
    @FoxxyCZ 8 місяців тому

    Feels like they are not counting finger strength as a strength? In my opinion climbing is 80% finger strength, 10% body strength and 10% technique. But what do i know? I'm just a beginner who struggle to dead hang for 10 seconds and see finger strength as the major obstacle.

  • @Jim2point0
    @Jim2point0 8 місяців тому +1

    Video halfway over and we already see its strength I guess. But i dont think thats fair because its not like emil has bad technique 🤷‍♀️

  • @jonnes__4657
    @jonnes__4657 8 місяців тому

    🗽Technique, strength and flexibility is important! ☝
    .

    • @jonnes__4657
      @jonnes__4657 8 місяців тому

      @JonaasK Okay, mobility is the better word. 🤨

  • @tribesnr42
    @tribesnr42 8 місяців тому

    2 min into the video. Thats not just technique, but insane flexibility imo.

  • @gd1037
    @gd1037 8 місяців тому

    9:00 I guess it's not cheating if you add a note saying it's not what it looks like during editing 😅 Mathilda is too kind to you Emile!

  • @bullydungeon9631
    @bullydungeon9631 8 місяців тому

    Im always scared to mention weight but which one of you is stronger by body weight % ?

  • @BlackdownBlocs
    @BlackdownBlocs 8 місяців тому

    Embrace the duality, strong-tekkers FTW

  • @conserve_climber
    @conserve_climber Місяць тому

    Is Matilda in the US at the moment?

  • @qSfhsj
    @qSfhsj 8 місяців тому +3

    The female swedish accent is like Stitch 😂

  • @polle314
    @polle314 7 місяців тому

    Next in the series: What is more important for survival? The heart or the lungs?

  • @ishatonyou29
    @ishatonyou29 8 місяців тому

    Technique will only get you so far: hit the weights!
    Strength will only get you so far: Always hold yourself accountable for your weaknesses, and chase improvement/progression!

  • @Romaing7
    @Romaing7 8 місяців тому

    Me watching this video after a lock off and fingers training 😅😂

  • @GrandeAdventure
    @GrandeAdventure 8 місяців тому

    The short answer to the question the video poses is "yes".

  • @introspection3884
    @introspection3884 8 місяців тому

    A competition with emil, matilda, nikken

  • @atomiccocoanut2596
    @atomiccocoanut2596 7 місяців тому

    matilda is so cool

  • @yercules
    @yercules 8 місяців тому

    Power can save you from bad technique. And technique can save you from a lack of power.

  • @Dave_Ebert
    @Dave_Ebert 8 місяців тому

    Steaks as stakes?

  • @nickaborr
    @nickaborr 6 місяців тому

    did matilda delete her video or just never posted it?

  • @ryoma4904
    @ryoma4904 7 місяців тому

    i am looking forward to the demonic episode!

  • @chrissmithdoe2100
    @chrissmithdoe2100 8 місяців тому

    why do you insist that she's the 'strongest' female in Sweden? Isn't the whole point that she's the best/hardest climbing female climber in Sweden (that's what her accomplishments would imply), and that she may be the best through technique over strength? (i can easily imagine there being several stronger female swedish female climbers who just don't climb as well... Or am I totally wrong and she's actually doing the heaviest pull-ups etc?)
    anyway, nice video!

  • @TheMegaMrMe
    @TheMegaMrMe 8 місяців тому

    another competition? lead climbing. anything where you need to be 4-5m above a bolt. I want to see Emil squeamish :D