Lost my patience with Chicago hardy fig

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
  • This new unkown variety is not shy. I planted it in this spot, right next to the Chicago hardy in late summer of 2022. Any ideas to what it could be let me know in the comments!

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  • @KidGarden100
    @KidGarden100 Рік тому +3

    damn 5 years not a single fig! good choice to chop it down the new one looks great

  • @baneverything5580
    @baneverything5580 25 днів тому +1

    You should try a Celeste fig tree because it produces early. Research here in Louisiana indicates they`re more cold hardy than Chicago Hardy. Just heavily mulch the roots underneath the canopy with things like chopped leaves, brown cardboard, rotting branches and green grass clippings. Protect the tree from below 15 degrees the first couple of years with a tarp and some sort of warm lights beneath it, say 20 watts of LED on really cold nights. Or wrap the branches then wrap in a tarp etc. I`ve covered smaller 1st year trees with pine straw and a plastic barrel wrapped in a blanket. Remove the barrel when normal temps return. I also leave lower horizontal branches, weigh them down, then cover in leaves and straw just in case the top does freeze.

    • @raregrowsNJ
      @raregrowsNJ  25 днів тому +1

      this cutting might actually be a celeste or the real chicago hardy, the other plant I pulled out was probably mislabeled! i've been told the leaves of the now removed fig (but I still have 2 other cloned from that original one around the yard) resemble ron de bordeaux or something along the lines, leaves are long with slender "fingers." also it was most likely a tissue culture due to the suckering/creating multiple branches at the base and not fruiting for such a long time.

    • @baneverything5580
      @baneverything5580 25 днів тому +1

      @@raregrowsNJ I think my 4 pack of new Celeste trees planted in Louisiana in March were tissue culture too. They were very very tiny 2 or 3 inch bushes with 7 or 8 branches. One grew to a normal size this year but zero fruits and one is only 7 or 8 inches with 2 branches. The others have 2 branches and are almost 4 feet. No fruits. They have long finger leaves and strange leaves on other branches shaped like shields. Very odd! I have 2 Brown Turkey trees in the ground and one in a pot. I`ve only gotten 7 ripe figs so far and one tree is large and was planted last year. Maybe next year they will produce.

  • @joncarson3060
    @joncarson3060 Рік тому +7

    Sorry. Figs are sometimes mysterious. My Chicago Hardy fig was a small 1 foot fig purchased last fall. By winter it was up potted to 15 gallon pot. Despite being in garage for winter it died down to roots. Grew back from ground and has around 30 figs on it so far. Good luck.

    • @raregrowsNJ
      @raregrowsNJ  Рік тому +4

      Yes that they are. I didn't mention it in the video however before planting that Chicago Hardy in the ground it was in a container and it did fruit. One theory is that the pot restricts the roots which forces fruiting whereas in the ground it has unlimited space to put roots down. It doesn't explain the behavior of the cutting next to it, but it's a different variety which might be more precocious regardless of extra space for roots

    • @Earthy-Artist
      @Earthy-Artist 5 місяців тому +1

      @@raregrowsNJ Hi, wondering did you ever find out that variety of fig your friend gave you which finally fruited for you? I'm in Northern Jersey and have had a Chicago Extra Hardy in a container for 3 years, no fruit, this spring it has only one single tiny itsy bitsy breba crop fig on it. I'm assuming maybe my fig tree needs something I haven't been giving to it? I fertilize it in fall and spring, keep it watered etc. I understand a special type of 'fig wasp' is needed to climb inside the fruit, pollinate the fig, and then the wasp dies inside the fig and is then absorbed into the fruit. Perhaps I have a shortage of those wasps where I live? it's all been very mysterious!

    • @raregrowsNJ
      @raregrowsNJ  5 місяців тому

      @@Earthy-Artist hi! I am actually not sure but the mystery fig has a breba crop at the moment, I will have a better idea about the fruit this summer as last summer I was away on vacation and when I came back the figs were overripe and covered in ants lol. one of the hardy chicago that I didnt dig out on other side of the yard has made a single breba fig like your potted one. we had a very mild winter, not going below 15f, so there was no dieback. The mystery fig and hardy chicago are common "domesticated" figs that form fruit without being pollinated so we dont need a wasp for fruit. figs that need a wasp pollination are grown in warm climates like in California, Italy, Turkey (smyrna fig comes to mind), I am not sure that there are any for cold zones. For your potted hardy Chicago, I would stay away from fertilizing with nitrogen, as I've heard it will push leaves and not fruit so if you do fertilize use something without or less nitrogen

    • @Earthy-Artist
      @Earthy-Artist 5 місяців тому +1

      @@raregrowsNJ Thanks🙂! Good points about using less nitrogen, and not needing any wasps. I'm going to keep troubleshooting and see what happens.

  • @lostwoods5687
    @lostwoods5687 2 місяці тому +1

    I can relate. It took five years for the tree to finally grow and produce figs. It was worth the wait.

    • @raregrowsNJ
      @raregrowsNJ  2 місяці тому

      glad to hear it does eventually fruit, I'll leave the other bushes alone for now hah

  • @baneverything5580
    @baneverything5580 25 днів тому +1

    I have to order all my fig trees. Who knows if the variety is accurate. None of my trees resemble the varieties I ordered and I have two trees loaded with fruits that apparently will never ripen and they`ve been on the trees for 3 months. "Brown Turkey." It took me two years of ripoffs just to get real dwarf tomato seeds. The dwarf plants produce the most flavorless tomatoes I`ve ever seen. This is after spending about 300 bucks. So this winter I plan to grow actual real cherry tomatoes inside. And I`m trying to convince myself to try indoor cucumbers too now that I`ve found self-pollinating varieties. I tried Spacemaster two years ago and failed at hand pollinating. What a mess!

    • @raregrowsNJ
      @raregrowsNJ  25 днів тому +1

      it seems like mislabeling is a big issue with figs, thankfully this fig I replaced the non producer with has been ripening figs up until now, the temps have dropped but I am still getting ripe figs although slowly. Next year I hope the plant will double in size as will the harvest.

  • @yourweekendgardner301
    @yourweekendgardner301 Рік тому +4

    I found my Chicago Hardy at a box store 5ft high and this year I lost count of the figs it produced. I will do cuttings and put them throughout the property.

    • @raregrowsNJ
      @raregrowsNJ  Рік тому

      I must have bought a dud, this one came from Home Depot and it was just as tall 😔. How did you like the fruit?

    • @yourweekendgardner301
      @yourweekendgardner301 Рік тому +1

      After the 3rd year getting fruit, it was good. the first-year horrible taste, the second-year squirrels got everything. I also have a Celeste and Black Beers.

    • @raregrowsNJ
      @raregrowsNJ  Рік тому

      @@yourweekendgardner301 I think my mystery fig that I planted in place of the CH might be Celeste atleast fruit wise it looks very similar and Ive seen it listed for zone 7a

    • @Earthy-Artist
      @Earthy-Artist 5 місяців тому +1

      I bought my fig cutting from Etsy 3 years ago. So far no fruit.

  • @robertchinchilla5544
    @robertchinchilla5544 9 місяців тому +4

    I've been growing figs for over 30 years in Northern Illinois I had this problem with this before I met a old timer from Italy who was growing figs lemons and limes in his back yard he would use fish for fertilizer g them around

    • @robertchinchilla5544
      @robertchinchilla5544 9 місяців тому +1

      Burying around plants I've used fish emulsion fertilizer with great success now I use dr earths organic fruit tree fertilizer I have no problems there are better tasting varieties than Chicago hardy out there do some research and plant some others

    • @raregrowsNJ
      @raregrowsNJ  8 місяців тому

      Thank you for the tip, I have 0-10-10 Alaska fish fertilizer without nitrogen. I've used it on my pomegranate and it exploded with blooms, I ended up with 25 fruits. I will try it on the rest of the figs in the spring and see what happens ​@@robertchinchilla5544

  • @VirginiaFruitGrower
    @VirginiaFruitGrower Рік тому +3

    Good choice. Out with the cry baby, not rent payers. The new fig is already rewarding you!

  • @Earthy-Artist
    @Earthy-Artist 5 місяців тому +1

    A serious case of fig frustration fury 😆

  • @captainyak3948
    @captainyak3948 5 місяців тому +1

    May be the old one was not a Chicago hardy. Sometimes people sell fig trees with wrong variety type (not common) and thus the failure...

    • @raregrowsNJ
      @raregrowsNJ  5 місяців тому

      that's possible, the original plant is from home depot. one of the other rooted cuttings from the original plant nearby has a single fig growing on it now so I might be able to make a guess to what it is based on the fruit. we had a mild winter so it looks like it is breba fig from last years growth

  • @Batchat2352
    @Batchat2352 5 місяців тому +2

    You got a bad chicago hardy/mt edna type. The fig ur growing now seems like an olympian/english brown turkey type

    • @raregrowsNJ
      @raregrowsNJ  5 місяців тому

      thanks for the tip, the fruit did look like "brown turkey" will make a post once I get ripe fruit again. someone suggested the Chicago hardy might be a tissue culture which might be why it takes so long to see a fruit

    • @Batchat2352
      @Batchat2352 5 місяців тому +1

      @@raregrowsNJ tissue cultures fig trees like to be bushier but they fruit wither like normal or less or fruit little to none. But ur new tree looks like an english brown turkey. The one to ovoid is the californian brown turkey. Poor flavour and characteristics for humid climates

  • @Rusticsewing
    @Rusticsewing 6 місяців тому +1

    Yeah keep them too happy and they won't fruit. Over fertilizing does not mean more productivity.

  • @amyasgaming9200
    @amyasgaming9200 7 місяців тому

    That is so close to the house.....

    • @raregrowsNJ
      @raregrowsNJ  7 місяців тому +1

      It's a brick retaining wall, not part of the house. The bricks absorb the sun during the day and radiate heat in the winter which adds a degree or two of extra cold protection :)

    • @amyasgaming9200
      @amyasgaming9200 7 місяців тому

      ahhhhh ok@@raregrowsNJ

    • @amyasgaming9200
      @amyasgaming9200 7 місяців тому

      ahhhh
      @@raregrowsNJ