I still don't know how she did it lol the chair has arms and she must have been sitting on half of one butt cheek! 😂 And for the arms of the chair to not get in the way of the hoops! Wild! I was curious about how women sat in these dresses very recently! Perfectly timed video!
@@AstaDarlingcan you do a more detailed video on this, especially for cos players and brides who wear hoops? I feel like you would rescue us from certain embarrassment and being highly uncomfortable all day 😂
Girls back then, even now, in the snobby parts of Melbourne, Victoria, Australia are sent off to 'Finishing School', nowadays known as 'Modelling School', to learn how to walk,talk, sit, eat etc a certain way considered socially polished, cultured, refined. The rest of us normal Aussies just laugh and poke fun at such stuffy females, mostly educated feminist types fancying themselves as culturally refined, sophisticated. They are s joke.
@@samkadel8185 tbh i didn't see anything wrong with it at the time i wrote the comment either, which led to my confusion So thank you for letting me know
I had mine very cheap and from amazon for my 7kg wedding dress and had zero issues. I think this comes from the metal crinolins who are often depicted as whole metal cages.
My parents used to civil war reenact. You sitting down at the end activated a memory of my mom sitting in her favorite large green and black gown. She always looked like a queen when she did.
@@ShadowMoon878Actually a lot of late Victorian underwear had a hole for the privates to make it easier to go to the toilet but this only became popular around the 1840s. It was also why the Cancan was so scandalous, they were flashing a bit more than their underwear
I’m willing to bet more than once those first two definitely happened lol privacy of your own room after a long day and aching body? Yes. Absolute mood. 😂
Wore a huge crinoline at an anime *convention* last month. Took up 2-3 seats at every panel I went to, had to sit in front rows because I couldn’t fit between them, and I had to brace myself if I stood without holding my skirt because the cheap polyester fabric I made my costume out of would vacuum seal against the floor and knock me over. All in all a fun and informative weekend!
@@fawnjenkins72661000% happens even with natural fiber fabrics😂 when it first happened to me I was sitting on the floor in my room after trying on my 1860s outfit for the first time & it straight up pulled me back down to the floor😭😂 I always make sure to “break the seal” with a foot out now so it’s not a suction cup😭
@@amandabrooks6209 So that's why, in those historical movies or similar things, every Man / Gentleman immediately held there hand forward for support and if they did not the Woman was furious / not pleased 😂😂
Oh dear... What's done cannot be undone... She had a bad case of 'wind', causing her to fart so badly that it made her big billowy frock fly up. Oh well, these things could happen to any woman, though, wearing plain standard classic blue denim tight short skirts/jeans makes the evidence not so conspicuous.. ..
"and they most certainly did not sit down like this" okay but like what if they did, I actually wanna draw someone like that, the dress looked really pretty that way
The last sit was graceful! 😊 you think it would be common sense or come natural. Depending on the person they may need to be taught how to sit in that gown. ❤😊
It also depends on where the hoops fall in relation to your body. For me, there was a very *slight* hitch to my bum / posture at the back to lift up the hoops in back, just so that they get forced *down* in front. It's all about leverage and making sure the back of the dress has extra material to pass over the curve of your bottom without pulling the wrong way. You can see her dress, the hoop "catching air" slightly as she goes in for that final landing. She's putting enough material between her skirt waistband and her point of contact with the chair so that it isn't strained down in back...and thus lifted up in front, thanks to the fulcrum / pivot point of the way the dress is constructed. With extra material in back between waist and chair, the hoops have the room to "lift up" in back...which forces them *down* in front.
agreed, and i think it also depends on the occasion or the class/etiquette and such.. Like for photos or portraits i’m sure they wanted to show off more of the dress so perhaps draping it over the chair or stool that way it still looks full, etc.
@@Breegan Oh no, it just pouffs out like that. It was *meant* to do that (as well as look awesome, plus show off extra fabric as a sign of wealth). Why? Because it was a way for ladies to "reclaim space" around men who would try to get extra close to ladies they thought were gorgeous, even if those ladies didn't like them.
There's nothing special about the last one, she's just sitting normally 😂 People in movies like to hype up hoopskirts being "impractical" just like they pretend every era was wearing and tight-lacing corsets without a shift or chemise of any kind. Which is insane to me, cause as a kid in the 90s, most ladies wouldn't leave the house without a slip or cami under their clothes and I had to wear undershirts until I got my first bra. Imagine 18th century ladies just raw dogging their shapewear like that ......
@@KimJongUnniei didn't have to wear sn undershirt until i got a bra. I was wearing one in the 3rd grade because apparently us chubby girls developed early and plus chubby😂
The second sit down was funny as hell, I’d love a guest to walk into my living room and just flip the back of their dress up the couch and use it as a neck rest😂
You had waayyy too much fun doing this😂I'm afraid that little half laugh after your very graceful example of how a victorian lady sat down gave you away Asta! I am loving it, and I'm laughing my a$$ off!!!😂😂😂
They could sit straight just fine, not sure why you’re jumping to that conclusion. You’d know if you were familiar with portraiture that even standing subjects posed slightly sideways. A 3/4 pose in portraiture was most common because it’s most flattering and provides the most visual interest 👍🏼
Not when your entire town whispered about you constantly until the next gossippable faux pas occurred to replace you. They'd make you feel so crappy, and all your invitations would dry up, you'd sit home alone while parties were held without you... They had no entertainment but each other--even books were a rarity until libraries were built. All you'd have left was church.
"And, they most certainly did not sit down like this" Why does that one looks so beautiful like a queen sitting in a thrown and looks like its very comfortable
Great video and you're absolutely right! The first time I sat in a hoop skirt I had no idea what I was doing and ended up with the second attempt, which looked very sill 😂 That being said, your subtitles are being blocked by the UI so I don't know what you actually said about any of it
Sharing your underwear with all then men present? You know one of them--the ugliest one--would have convinced himself it was your invitation to share everything with him. Even if just creepy/pushy and not forceful.
thank you for saying “western women”! it’s a little thing, but a great reminder that other cultures were also thriving and had completely different traditions and styles during this time period.
Oh GOD, an _undergarment shot_ ?? That came out of left field, but I appreciate the impropriety in the face of the platforms community guidlines👌 Tally ho and cheery YO
Manners dictated that a lady never sat back; whether in the parlor or dining room. Their backs should not touch the back of any chair, only on a chaise (fainting chair) and only if nobody else was in the room.
"Well, they did not sit down like this." Then proceeds to give all ghosts in the room a heart attack.
700 likes n no replys let me fix dat
@@Anonymous_gigayou have my deepest gratitude, sir. 🧐
But like, that looks like 100% a way they would sit down after spending all the time to put all these layers on.
@@ChatwinATC if there was just ladies around, maybe.
@@marcusbrasilite i can imagine a girl sitting like that to make her other female friends laugh lol
That last sit was so graceful omg
Oh thank you!
It really was 💓
Truly ✨
I still don't know how she did it lol the chair has arms and she must have been sitting on half of one butt cheek! 😂 And for the arms of the chair to not get in the way of the hoops! Wild! I was curious about how women sat in these dresses very recently! Perfectly timed video!
@@AstaDarlingcan you do a more detailed video on this, especially for cos players and brides who wear hoops? I feel like you would rescue us from certain embarrassment and being highly uncomfortable all day 😂
C'mon. Everybody knows they hid unicycles under there. That allowed them to glide gracefully around a room.
real
😂😂
😅😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Segway has entered the chat…”
Hmmm it might’ve been hoverboards instead 🤔🤫
the first one is the cliche pose that every rebellious teen princess in a period drama sits in so we all know she’s very unladylike and improper
how i sit all the time.. i will forever sit like a rebellious teen princess :D
And it comes soon after her mother has her get all dressed up in fancy clothing that she hates wearing for some big party/ball/event.
I love that pose tho.. there's something so cool about it
@@desireandfirethere really isn’t 😂
Then I'm that princess, how ever unlady like it is
Imagine time traveling to the victorin era and not knowing this and you have to sit infront of a buch of people
Cut to clip of Peter griffin when he forgot how to sit.
😂
Girls back then, even now, in the snobby parts of Melbourne, Victoria, Australia are sent off to 'Finishing School', nowadays known as 'Modelling School', to learn how to walk,talk, sit, eat etc a certain way considered socially polished, cultured, refined. The rest of us normal Aussies just laugh and poke fun at such stuffy females, mostly educated feminist types fancying themselves as culturally refined, sophisticated. They are s joke.
I have to be extremely stupid to sit down like first two tho…
God bless you🤍
That's why they sit sideways in paintings!
Lol that’s what I was thinking too
it just makes for a nice composition. she said in the video they could sit however.
Exactly my thoughts 😊
That’s what I thought too 😂
Нет, это по этикету так. Нас тоже так учили сидеть в 21 веке в колледже. Говорили так должны сидеть девушки и женщины
"so one, simply sat down"
proceeds to sit down in one of the most delicate ways I've ever seen*
Not delicate; graceful.
@@elistari1050 right
Im not native to English speaking countries
@@jebrythdelicate was a fine word to use fyi! Idk why that person corrected you to be honest.
@@samkadel8185
tbh i didn't see anything wrong with it at the time i wrote the comment either, which led to my confusion
So thank you for letting me know
Delicate is a great word. Very gentle.
I think it's honestly more of an issue with the cheap hoops we have now 😂
I had mine very cheap and from amazon for my 7kg wedding dress and had zero issues. I think this comes from the metal crinolins who are often depicted as whole metal cages.
@@TemariNaraannaschatzEven metal crinolines are flexible.
@@MsAngelique Yes but movies don't depict them as such.
@@MsAngelique any good videos or links for metal crinoline that work the way you're saying?
Yea ik😅😅😅😢😢😢
My parents used to civil war reenact. You sitting down at the end activated a memory of my mom sitting in her favorite large green and black gown. She always looked like a queen when she did.
That's a beautiful memory you'll always have and cherish 💜 I love that for you 😊
I do love the idea of just putting the hoop over the entire chair like the in second one though😂
Def that was what they did at home...
Je pense exactement comme vous 😊
It could save money on upholstery, if the lady rarely left the chair.
She just flashed an entire dead generation😂😂
There is nothing to flash though. Victorian women wore so many layers under the dress
@@ShadowMoon878Actually a lot of late Victorian underwear had a hole for the privates to make it easier to go to the toilet but this only became popular around the 1840s. It was also why the Cancan was so scandalous, they were flashing a bit more than their underwear
@@SmokiiTea OOP
She didn't flash anything tf u talking about 😂
@@zizojaezekeom3565Well, not by modern standards.
"well, they just sat down" 😂
More like a sidesweep bootyscoot!
& we thought they were posing
Underrated comment
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@@yaminoonna3218*sheesh
i’ve worn hoop skirts in plays a few times and i’ll never forget the time i sat down wrong and got hit in the face with the front of my skirt
😂
Oh yeah~ that's always a fun red spot to explain later 😂😂😂
'What happened?'
😑 'Hoop skirt'
😂😂😂
That needs to be in a sitcom
i’d pay to see that…not just you. literally anyone 😂
The 2nd position is perfect to cover broken chair.😂😂
The last one was flawless! very graceful.
I’m willing to bet more than once those first two definitely happened lol privacy of your own room after a long day and aching body? Yes. Absolute mood. 😂
Just belly flopping in bed once. 😂
And in the summer with no air con?? Absolutely lol
You know Victorian women were sitting unladylike af when not in public 😂
@@gildedpeahen876😂
Yeah! Victorian memes!
Wore a huge crinoline at an anime *convention* last month. Took up 2-3 seats at every panel I went to, had to sit in front rows because I couldn’t fit between them, and I had to brace myself if I stood without holding my skirt because the cheap polyester fabric I made my costume out of would vacuum seal against the floor and knock me over. All in all a fun and informative weekend!
I have never heard of suctioning to the floor before. I am laughing at that image in my head! Thanks for the warning!
@@fawnjenkins7266 i hadn't either. It was funny though!
@@fawnjenkins72661000% happens even with natural fiber fabrics😂 when it first happened to me I was sitting on the floor in my room after trying on my 1860s outfit for the first time & it straight up pulled me back down to the floor😭😂 I always make sure to “break the seal” with a foot out now so it’s not a suction cup😭
@@amandabrooks6209
So that's why, in those historical movies or similar things, every Man / Gentleman immediately held there hand forward for support and if they did not the Woman was furious / not pleased 😂😂
That's good to know!
Thanks ❤
It's almost like historical clothes were actually practical and the haters are just being goofy!
This was literally only practical for fancy use .
@@lux7382eeehh the working class deffo didnt
@@lux7382this is really not true lol
@@windjager2177lol crinolines were always extremely cheap and worn by all classes of people, just like corsets.
@@subratanandy2142Even working women occasionally wore crinolines. They made the skirts lighter.
The second one looked a bit like a magnificent white octopus engulfing it's prey.🐙
Oh dear... What's done cannot be undone... She had a bad case of 'wind', causing her to fart so badly that it made her big billowy frock fly up. Oh well, these things could happen to any woman, though, wearing plain standard classic blue denim tight short skirts/jeans makes the evidence not so conspicuous.. ..
the way i burst out laughing when you sat down the two "improper" ways in that victorian dress 🤣
This was hilarious. 😅 The last sit down looked so elegant.
yess
That dress is literally my dream!!! Ahhh it’s so beautiful
❤
Thank you!!
Worst dress you can wear near a fireplace.
Really? I can give it to you, just marry me 😅
@@winexhd9373W Rizz
Nah i just imagined a circle of well-to-do women sitting and gossiping, but all sitting the first way 😂😂😂😂😂
LOLLLLL!!
Sounds like a comedy sketch.
lol
"and they most certainly did not sit down like this" okay but like what if they did, I actually wanna draw someone like that, the dress looked really pretty that way
I mean if you want to draw someone like that go for it.
They did, on a swing.
@@WitchKing-Of-Angmar lmao this is in reference to that one painting isn't it
@@47ratsinahoodie Historical fact but yes, the 1778 picture.
@@WitchKing-Of-Angmar oh cool! Didn't know that
These dresses are so beautiful! 😍
How did you make the simple act of sitting down look so graceful?? 😭😭
I can't believe I'm saying this but you're so good at sitting down 😂
😂😂😂 RIGHT?!?!?
The last sit was graceful! 😊 you think it would be common sense or come natural. Depending on the person they may need to be taught how to sit in that gown. ❤😊
I mean I can't sit gracefully either so it's not the skirts fault😂
@@Scarlett.Granger 😄❤️
it’s just sitting down at an angle, no?
@@beeboo7485 ❤️
I am an artist trying to start my business and your dress and pose was inspiration for my latest piece.
You sit down so gracefully and looks so natural...❤❤❤❤
It also depends on where the hoops fall in relation to your body. For me, there was a very *slight* hitch to my bum / posture at the back to lift up the hoops in back, just so that they get forced *down* in front. It's all about leverage and making sure the back of the dress has extra material to pass over the curve of your bottom without pulling the wrong way. You can see her dress, the hoop "catching air" slightly as she goes in for that final landing. She's putting enough material between her skirt waistband and her point of contact with the chair so that it isn't strained down in back...and thus lifted up in front, thanks to the fulcrum / pivot point of the way the dress is constructed. With extra material in back between waist and chair, the hoops have the room to "lift up" in back...which forces them *down* in front.
Yeah
Never realized you needed an engineering degree to wear Victorian era clothing. Lol.
agreed, and i think it also depends on the occasion or the class/etiquette and such.. Like for photos or portraits i’m sure they wanted to show off more of the dress so perhaps draping it over the chair or stool that way it still looks full, etc.
@@Breegan Oh no, it just pouffs out like that. It was *meant* to do that (as well as look awesome, plus show off extra fabric as a sign of wealth). Why? Because it was a way for ladies to "reclaim space" around men who would try to get extra close to ladies they thought were gorgeous, even if those ladies didn't like them.
Engineering and physics.
I think if I tried to sit down like that I'd just fall off the edge of the chair 😅
I like the second one. Just envelop that chair and secure yourself.
There's nothing special about the last one, she's just sitting normally 😂
People in movies like to hype up hoopskirts being "impractical" just like they pretend every era was wearing and tight-lacing corsets without a shift or chemise of any kind.
Which is insane to me, cause as a kid in the 90s, most ladies wouldn't leave the house without a slip or cami under their clothes and I had to wear undershirts until I got my first bra. Imagine 18th century ladies just raw dogging their shapewear like that ......
@@pvp6077as a kid in the 90s neither of those were true for me or either of the states I lived in.
@@pvp6077 As a 2000s kid, same. Always wear a slip or cami under my clothes
@@KimJongUnniei didn't have to wear sn undershirt until i got a bra. I was wearing one in the 3rd grade because apparently us chubby girls developed early and plus chubby😂
@@pvp6077😅13
The second sit down was funny as hell, I’d love a guest to walk into my living room and just flip the back of their dress up the couch and use it as a neck rest😂
LOL.
Simply sat down and looked graceful and elegant.The skirt of that gown is very beautiful pooled on the floor around the lady's feet
The girls at my prom sat down the first way‼️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I take it they weren't wearing bloomers though.
When I was little I asked my mum if she wore crinoline and lived in black and white, she wasn't impressed with me lol
Your examples of sitting were hilarious .
I genuinely laughed out loud at the 1st one 😂😂😂
And the last version, so graceful ❤
You had waayyy too much fun doing this😂I'm afraid that little half laugh after your very graceful example of how a victorian lady sat down gave you away Asta! I am loving it, and I'm laughing my a$$ off!!!😂😂😂
She could fit a whole village in her dress 💀
I appreciate the way she teaches
The first example gave me the Vapors!! How scandalous!!😂😂
The last it was so graceful you looked so beautiful like I’m not even kidding SLAY
This seems comfortable 🥰
Omg so the elegant portrait pose was sideways bcuz they weren't able to sit straight 😂👌🏻
They could sit straight just fine, not sure why you’re jumping to that conclusion. You’d know if you were familiar with portraiture that even standing subjects posed slightly sideways. A 3/4 pose in portraiture was most common because it’s most flattering and provides the most visual interest 👍🏼
The elegant portrait pose was just like the ugly TikTok pose
It’s for a picture.
I ascertain you lack appropriate mental capabilities.
@@maddieb.4282 y r u so mad?
You’re so graceful
Did that in a Hanbok because I've worn hoops before and blew my friends MINDS 😂
I want to wear a hanbok 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
SOOOO PRETTYYYYYYY I want that dress so pretty 😭🤧✨
In my experience, you just have to sit ever so slightly farther out on the seat, and everything just falls into place.
Wow the skirt of the dress makes that last pose look so beautifulll
Wow....that was elegant 🥰
I would sit like the first one😂
Not when your entire town whispered about you constantly until the next gossippable faux pas occurred to replace you. They'd make you feel so crappy, and all your invitations would dry up, you'd sit home alone while parties were held without you... They had no entertainment but each other--even books were a rarity until libraries were built. All you'd have left was church.
This is sooooo pretty! And those shoes are everything! So talented, and your fashion taste is *mwah* chefs kiss
I love this kind of dresses , so decent، so gorgeous, so royal 😊
The last was just picturesque ❤.
The second way looked kinda comfortable ngl
This is fascinating 😅
I don't know why but the 2nd one feels more comfortable to me 😂😂
I would totally miss that chair in the end lol
You are so gorgeous and elegant, just wow. Had to pause the short when you 'just sat down' to admire your beauty for a moment
So graceful and beautiful.
Your literally like if a ray of sunshine was a person!
I loved your exaggerated first seat! Hilarious!
That’s so elegant !!
Never thought I’d see someone sit down so gracefully
brain time travelled for a second and i reacted to that first sit like you’d mooned us 😂😂
And looked so beautiful doing so!
This dress is such a dream! Wish I could wear this someday but wearing that here in a tropical country would literally kill me 😭
It wouldn't, you just think it would.
I had a hoop under my wedding dress and I practiced sitting so I wouldn't surprise everyone. Lol
WHAT ARE THOOOSE, She got them airforce420s 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
God bless you🤍
The dress is soooo beautiful!!!
I picture the mom from Overboard. "Andrew, I'm sitting" "Now, Madam."
Imagine it just gets stuck collapsed and you stand up and your dress is just a flat plane
Gosh, fashion was so elegant and romantic back then ... 😍🥺
Go test out a corset and see if you still think so.
YOU'RE SO PRETTY AND ELEGANT OMG
"And, they most certainly did not sit down like this"
Why does that one looks so beautiful like a queen sitting in a thrown and looks like its very comfortable
I recognise the sash from the 1900s layers video 😊😊 very funny video ❤❤
YES!!!
Great video and you're absolutely right! The first time I sat in a hoop skirt I had no idea what I was doing and ended up with the second attempt, which looked very sill 😂
That being said, your subtitles are being blocked by the UI so I don't know what you actually said about any of it
Honestly the first two examples were just not something anyone would thought of💀😂
I did. I always wondered about the 2d one...
The neighbor on the second sit: 📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸📸
the first one is a power move, looks badass
When you want to skip all the etiquette and just seduce Mr. Darcy.
Could you please make a video of everything you ever made!?
Makes sense, practicality was always necessary, they had a lot of work to do.
I would have most certainly would have sat like the fist example 😂
Sharing your underwear with all then men present? You know one of them--the ugliest one--would have convinced himself it was your invitation to share everything with him. Even if just creepy/pushy and not forceful.
The dress looks really cute and amazing. I do really want to wear it, it looks so precious💞 😭😭
The dress is so beautiful :')
thank you for saying “western women”! it’s a little thing, but a great reminder that other cultures were also thriving and had completely different traditions and styles during this time period.
Chinese foot binding? Now who could make a video acting that out? There are some showing what Victorian corsets and diets did to women's bodies tho.
I really want to know how these women dealt with tiny seats when they went to see a show or an opera
They probably did just hike the skirt over the seat and engulf it then.
So it makes sense now why they always sit sideways🤧
That first option looks so inviting
so pretty 😭
One does not simply sit down past the gates of Mordor, unless of course you are a western woman from 1850.
Their way of dressing was so extra lol 😅
Lady ❤
So beautiful! You actually took my breath away
that looked so elegant!!!
Oh GOD, an _undergarment shot_ ??
That came out of left field, but I appreciate the impropriety in the face of the platforms community guidlines👌
Tally ho and cheery YO
The more I find out about Victorian clothes, the more I feel like our "clothing technology" evolved backwards.
So you can't comfortably lean back?
Correct
Manners dictated that a lady never sat back; whether in the parlor or dining room. Their backs should not touch the back of any chair, only on a chaise (fainting chair) and only if nobody else was in the room.
Sideways sitting look graceful & elegant
She is so beautiful!!! ❤