You have a full-frame, “full-size” camera that can do about everything the OM-1 can do, plus better low light and more room for cropping. The OM-1 is about the same (large) size. The OM-5 is the only option that yields a smaller form factor. Easy choice: the -5 for the size.
So do I but my Sony and it's lenses are much bigger, heavier and most are more expensive. I grab my OM-1 more often than my sony. I even tried renting the 200-600, owned the 100-400 for a couple weeks. I compared my images from the same subjects and prefer what I shot with my OM-1 40-150 + MC-14 tele. Love my sony for portraits. Other than that though. I grab my OM-1.
OM5 - the perfect size and weight. I'm going to be buried with my EM5iii & PanaLeica 15mm. My bigger, heavier Q2 just sits on a shelf gathering dust. Properly exposed RAW 20MP images rival those of the 47MP Leica and are superior in low light! Who would have thought for a M43 sensor?
For me the OM5, combined with a small lens like the 12-45, is a great compliment to my Nikon Z full frame setup. To get 24-90 equiv, with all the computational bells and whistles in a weather-sealed kit is no easy feat. The a7c/ii is great, but they don’t have any lenses with that kind of range and size. The f8 equiv for me is fine while the light stays good. And if it’s not good, the 45 1.8 is ridiculously compact and gets the job done. I do a lot of outdoor adventure-y things, and that is the setup that almost always accompanies me. I leave the Z for the most light-challenged settings or for when I absolutely need to nail a portrait, but for me portability usually wins out. I’m almost always happy with the results.
I am now retired and chose the OM-5 as a great travel camera especially matched to the 14-150mm lens. Its light and compact yet still gives great photos. The more I use it the more i am liking it.
I had the choice between the two at a camera store and picked the om5 because it was lighter and more compact. Very happy with the shooting experience and the results
The camera with the stacked sensor is the one I would pick - OM-1. Electronic shutter that gives you quiet operation with fast sensor readout, no risk of shutter shock, and less wear on the mechanical shutter for the few times you need it.
So what i have found buying the nikon zf I enjoy the camera when im using the 26mm 2.8. But if i put the 35mm 1.8 on it id rather use the om5 with 17mm 1.2. Couldn't just pick one from those two or the two i have for a similiar comparison. But for your concert i would take om5.
The few times I’ve switched back to m43 I’ve always gone towards the e-m5 models over the e-m1 purely for the ability to change the over all size of the camera with the additional grip and the extra battery grip section. To me that takes priority over some of the higher end features because sometimes I’ll just leave cameras at home due to having to carry around something bigger.
I think both have a place. I’ve got the OM-1 and an EM-5 mk II. I’m waiting for the next version of the OM-5 to come out. I would really like an upgraded EVF, menus and USC-C.
Om1 all the way. I have had the em5iii and I have larger hands and would get the grip you had. So if I need a grip for om5 then I would just keep the om1 for all the reasons you said it was great and especially the grip
I used to struggle with these questions, but these days, it comes down to keeping what I enjoy shooting. Whether it's one or more cameras is almost irrelevant. If you're enjoying the OM5 and OM1 and can afford to keep both, then perhaps avoid the temptation of needing to justify keeping both. I can't justify having 4 camera bodies and lenses for each, but enjoy shooting them all depending on the situation and mood. Just my opinion.
I have both an OM-1 and OM-5 so here's my thoughts. It's not about the cameras as much as your use case. There are things an OM-1 can do (i.e. computational photography) that no other camera can do, FF or not, but if you don't use those things then they won't count in your decision. You mention the body size of the OM-1 is about the size of your FF body, but you don't seem to tie in the much smaller MFT lenses which will always make the OM-1 system smaller than an equivalent FF system. With the OM-1 you have a pro-grade camera which gives more than enough in many areas to make up for what it give up relative to *some* FF cameras for many use cases. But does that work for you? So, that leaves the OM-5. Your "transformer" analogy is very good - the hand grip you already have does give that camera the ability to comfortably handle longer lenses. The "plastic" body of the OM-5 is an advantage in reducing weight. I have an OM-5 and a PEN-F, and although the latter's metal build is satisfying to pick up, the OM-5 is much better to carry, and the kinds of plastic used in camera bodies is very strong and will shrug off impacts that could bend a metal body. The menu system is not that big a deal - yeah, the OM-1's menu is much cleaner, but with all the custom preset storage and button programmability of the OM-5 how often do you use the menu system? With the OM-5 you are choosing a very capable camera you can configure to fit in a (big) pocket, as you described. But, you are also relegating your MFT gear to non-pro uses and as a "small" or backup system, which for me would be doing that system a big disservice. Personally, I'm a dedicated MFT shooter so I would keep both and dump the FF camera. But, that's me. Taking just your video comments, it sounds to me that you think your FF camera does enough of what you would use your OM-1 for that there is a lot of overlap, but you can't ever configure your FF system to fit in a pocket like the OM-5 - so it does something that no other camera you have can do. Good luck!
Just what I was thinking. I dumped my FF for the OM1 and I sold my OM5, however I do have a Lumix GX9 which I use for concerts and street stuff. It's even smaller and it too has a grip if needed and is much cheaper than the OM5 and uses all my oly lenses. There are many choices.
I have both and neither is going anywhere. I use both of them extensively on events for different purposes and both perform excellent. If you do not need the money I just cannot understand why you should get rid of one of them. You keep the OM-5 obviously for its size. Then ask yourself is the full frame camera as rugged and weather sealed as the OM-1? Has the full frame camera Live-ND (64), Pro Capture, Live Time, Live Composite, Object recognition, Art Filters, and so on? Do you want to lug around two sets of different mount lenses just for the sake of full frame? If not, you should keep the OM-1 as well.
@@ericrjennings Nikon definitely gives a different look and quite a beautiful one as I am concerned. Like I said, if you do not need the money I would not sell any camera. I have a lot of cameras and use them exactly as you say for different looks or different needs. To me it is not a problem if a camera sits on a shelf for a while as longs as it is there when I want or need it. Just my thoughts. I am curious what you will decide 🙂
This will probably reach you too late for tonight’s concert. But I too have both an OM-1 and an OM-5. And I sometimes shoot performances here in NYC (nightclub, theater). The OM-1 has been disappointing in its low-light focus locking/tracking performance, even with up-to-date (May 2024) firmware. The OM-1 may be great for birding but I’ve found it to be no better than the OM-5 in low/bad-lighting situations. There is an OM-1 firmware update coming in the fall so I’d try to defer a keep/sell decision till then. The Panasonic G9M2 has better autofocus than both OMs but even it is inferior to the Sony A6700 in subject-tracking performance. I find the 8-inch lens limit interesting. That would rule out my present favorite concert lens (the massive full-frame Tamron 35-150 F2-2.8 on the A6700). But unless you are located very close to the performers, I fear the superb Oly 75mm won’t have quite enough reach. If the performers aren’t wildly all over the stage AND you are willing to lower your shutter speeds (start at 1/200 and go down) and/or raise your ISOs (start at 3200 and go up), then MFT has several lenses that might work out (Oly 40-150 F4, 12-100 F4, 40-150 F2.8, Panasonic 35-100 F2.8). BTW I hardly ever worry about higher ISOs if it means getting an in-focus, non-motion-blurred shot. Ai post processing can reduce high-ISO noise, but not poor focus or motion blur.
I know this doesn't help you, but I've been struggling with this issue too. For now at least, I have an OM-1 and an A7CR. So far, I haven't found a rational for keeping the OM-1or even trading it for an OM-5. The Sony is significantly smaller and lighter than the OM-1 and is the same size as the OM-5 except for the depth. That's because it has an actual grip which the OM-5 doesn't. If you add the grip to the OM-5 is larger and heavier than the Sony. But what about lenses you ask? Surprisingly, for my use case, and considering the equivalence factor, they are fairly close. I want a walk around lens for travel etc. Maybe the 12-45/4 for the OM-5 (that's an F/8 equivalent) and a Sony 28-60mm/4-5.6.for the A7CR. Still lighter and faster than the OM. Same goes for wide zooms and telephoto zooms, and with the Sony I have the option of 60mp or 24mp in crop mode with extended range. I have fought this for months, because I have a sentimental attachment to Olympus, (first film camera and first digital camera) but I just can't ignore the facts.
@@ericrjennings you are the only person I know with worse G.A.S. than me! Like I've used about everything at one time or another. I've boiled it down to this: Sony for low light and AF. It wins over every brand every time. The others may have caught up, but I have the lenses. OM Systems/Olympus for weather sealing and IBIS. M4/3 is the absolute best at IBIS. Right now I'm trying to decide e-m mk iii v OM5 v OM1 so this was a great video
I had luck bringing EM-53 into NBA stadiums. It's much less professional looking than the OM-1, which is good for concerts. And for lens, maybe the Panasonic 35-100 f4-5.6 would be a good option? You do need to use higher ISO but it is extremely small and low profile for security checkpoints.
The OM1 is a much more versatile camera. Plus it's a professional body and will hold up really well over time. That being said, if you are looking for a smaller/lighter solution, then OM-5 isn't a bad option. Honestly, at those two price points, it's not a bad idea to hang on to both. That way you can take the right one that suits the situation. I use my A7Cii nearly every day, but I still have A7RV and A7Siii for when I need those tools (or want to mix it up a bit)
It's not the body size that matters, it's the lens. Buy into a lens system first then find a (good) body that can use it. I have both OM1 (mkII) and OM5 and use both. I ended up selling all my FF kit because lugging around FF lenses was getting too much. Sure, you can cherry pick small FF lenses and pick the biggest M43 lenses to compare it to, but on the whole M43 lenses are smaller and lighter and that is why I moved to that system. I also print up to A2 from these bodies so the MP count is a non issue. If I could only keep ONE, it would be the OM5 because it's smaller and lighter and can do 95% of the OM1. The only thing it's missing (for me) is the extra AI focusing, live GND and the extra 3 stops of live ND. If you don't use those features and don't use bigger lenses (e.g. 40-150 f2.8) then there is probably nothing keeping you in the OM1. I know both menu systems pretty well and have no problem using either.
@@marcosrotllan It depends on what you want to shoot. Generally speaking, the OM5 is as good at macro at the OM1 or Om1 mk II, with the caveat that the OM1 mk II has better AI focusing for some subjects. If your subjects are not moving, or you have time to focus on them then the OM5 will do just as good a job. You have the choice of 30/60/90 macro lenses (as well as a couple of other like Lumix) and they work equally well on both cameras. If you are shooting bugs, with high speed focus stacking the 90mm macro is pretty sweat but the 60 macro does a good job too. Some people will warn of the OM5 tripod mount, but for any of the macros (and most other lenses) it's just not an issue at all. BTW - I did buy some more FF kit (including macro), but that does not mean M43 isn't awesome for macro - it is and I still have it / use it.
I have both and I’m going to keep both. The OM 1 only makes a big difference in animal photography. Birds etc. if you’re not doing that, keep the OM 5 for the size. You will always get into a situation were you want a small capable system and the OM 5 is pretty good at being that. You always have Full Frame for more sophisticated stuff.
Recently made a look back through my photos from the last 10 years. Of my top 50 photos, 40’were shot in the year and a half that I had the E-M 5 Mk iii. 5 weee with E-M 1 Mk iii, 3 with Fuji X-T 4 and 2 with LUMIX S 5. Thinking about why that is the case, the bottom line is that, while all were perfectly capable of great images, the E-M 5 iii was always with me. Many of the images were taken on long hikes in the mountains. Thinking of going to OM 5
Due to handling I much prefer the OM-1. I had the original E-M5 with a grip and the aftermarket hand grip and it just never felt as good as the E-m1 / OM-1 body. I also much prefer the new menu system. But thats just me. I am curious though. As a fellow Michigander. What venue were you going too that allows an 8 inch lens? I have always wanted to try concert photography outside of small venues where the lighting is often poor. Just measured the 40-150 and it's 6 1/2 inches without the hood. My Tamron 35-150 is 7" but not sure if I could get in with it or not. Hell I'd go to shows of bands I don't even like to have the opportunity to shoot them. I didn't read the comments yet. Did you make a decision?
I have both, but if I had to give one up, I would probably keep the OM-5. Simply because it can be smaller. The image quality is really not too much different at all.
Love your content Eric, I am on the similar verge right now as I am also into M43 and have G85 and Oly E-PL9 Seems that I enjoy more Olympus ergonomics and overall feel in the hand, so now thinking to buy OM-1 Combining OM-1 with Sigma M43 trinity lenses that I bought, and Olympus 25mm 1.8 which is always on E-PL9 as my EDC set. I just need more content like these to convince me to stop looking for FF because I don't need it actually. 😇
In the context of having a FF option, the OM5 is more in line with the smaller form factor of 4/3, trading features and build for a slightly larger body. The technical trade-offs are easy, but it's the form factor and which will get used more. Honestly, with the bodies just different enough that maybe keeping both for now is the easier decision. Or sell the OM5 and pick up a Pen F.
If you really like what your full frame camera can do compared the OM-1, I’d keep the OM-5. However, if features like subject tracking are important, as well as high shooting frame rates, I’d keep the OM-1 or maybe look into the OM-1 II.
If you're going to keep the Nikon and have to sell one of the others, then keeping the OM5 makes better sense due to its small size and weight. You can carry it with you to places you wouldnt normally consider taking a camera
I have the OM-5 and the OM-1 MkII. I had to trade in my OM-1 to afford the OM-1 MkII. For the concert I would take the OM-1 MkII. The Human Subject AI AF is vastly improved. The low light AF is very good in the OM-1 MkII. Anyhow, I do like owning both. The OM-5 is a really fun camera for family outings where compact size is important. Still it takes a little extra effort and the OM-1 MkII makes it very easy. I am keeping both.
I can't help you there, but I will say I almost ordered the G9II, but didn't because it's just a little to big for what I want it for, but the day isn't over yet ;)
I'd lean to the OM-5. Just being a smaller body may also give it a pass for your concerts or anywhere else. My bias is toward smaller cameras and why I have an E-M5.3 instead of an E-M1.2 :) Honestly, the only real downside is the AF system. And no USB-C for charging given when it was released.
M planning to move from canon eos rp to mft. will em1 iii or em5 iii will be better choice. shd i move to mft. i mostly take portraits. have 24 50 and 85mm
I'd keep the OM-1 if you're doing wildlife, waterfalls (more ND stops), etc. If you're doing quick snaps, the OM-5. I'm not sure the OM-1 is worth it for the 300 F4 though. You can get the full frame 300 PF for lighter or the 400 F4.5 from Nikon. I just got the 150-400 and it's amazing, but not sure the other wildlife lenses are better than recent full frame offerings.
Om5 Because you have to put a value on portability factor and grab and go over another bigger (better spec) camera.. Thank about it.. Are you really going to notice a lot on the quality differences? Are you going to make an 8x10 print? I’m 60 years old and I had a amazing Leica camera for 30 years After the frustration of bringing that with an extra lens after the first year I decided the fun factor and the ease of just grabbing something as I was running out the door was so liberating.. Still have my leica and enjoy it a lot But only at a relaxing venue Blessings Greg
I recently sold my om5 for the nikon zf. I also had considered the om1. My reasoning: find the your main use case to own m43 next to full frame. For me: The om5 has a place as fun, bring everywhere camera, fuck it if it breaks-camera, with a very high quality image output. The small size, relatively low price, and still ergonomic, is the perfect combination for owning both full frame and m43. I appreciate the om1 for its tank-like weatherproofness that brings easy of mind. And I think high quality compact zoom lenses is where m43 shines. But its not something I personally enjoy as photography, meaning I wont take a camera with me when it rains 😂. All other reasons are minor in my opinion: the difference between newer sensors and the om5 is not that big. I find the om5 also responsive and modern in autofocus. I sold the om5 for one reason only, the fact its weather sealed and the lenses Ill want to keep are not (15mm, 45mm). This bugs me in a strange way 😂
Your.problem from where I sit is that if you do this, you no longer will have redundancy if you sell either. The full frame can't use the lenses, so not an option. OM-1 or OM-5 fail, and you have the other that you can swap the lens you wanted to use onto. Keep both, or you're likely to kick yourself over it later.
Hardly an agonizing decision, just pick one and go or it, the mere fact you have to put an extra grip on the 5 kinda means its not for you. I have used EM1, EM5 mk2 and EM1 mk2, and really it makes no blinkin difference. It reminds me of a song and is very applicable to your girlfriend or your camera, so when you think you want to stray, say to yourself "just love the one you are with" Not a bad philosophy in life. Love conquers all demons
So…. You should keep the OM-1 and list the OM-5 on FM😉 I sold mine a while ago and really miss it. I have a Sony FF system but still prefer Olympus/OM for fun and everyday carry.
I’d keep the OM-5 if I already had a larger camera. It’s nice to have a good camera that isn’t too pro looking, and you’ll have that with the OM-5. Saying that, I can see a use case for an OM-5 (family, travel), OM-1 (wildlife, landscape) and a FF camera for low light photography.
@@ericrjennings yeah, it definitely is, but then I’d maybe stop the constant switching between systems! I was out today with my 40-150mm f/2.8 and a GX9 trying to take some bird photos, and it was good fun, but the autofocus isn’t best suited. So that’s where an OM-1 (or G9II) comes in. I’d then like a cheap FF (Z6 most likely) and a couple of primes for indoors and winter.
I run myself in circles on this question and so far just give up and keep the om-1 and my em-5 iii. If I had to keep one, it'd be the em-5. Easier to have for bopping around. Just wish it had the better menus and usb-c charging.
I own the OM-1 and an E-M1 iii (from which the OM-5 is derived). If video is important, then keep the OM-1, as (versus E-M1 iii/OM-5) it's a much better camera for video - very low rolling shutter, better C-AF, 10-bit capability, better image detail etc. - and it's got a much better EVF. But if it's primarily for stills use, I'd be tempted to keep the OM-5 instead just for the smaller size/lower weight (I've thought about buying one myself for that reason as replacement for my E-M1 iii).
The positive point of the OM-5 is that it is small and this is not found much in other brands. OM-5 can be used in situations, like concert, where you can not enter with big cameras. The OM-1 has not the size advantage and it is the same size as a medium prize FF cameras. If you don’t need high speed photo shootin, which is the strength of OM-1. Or you are shooting mainly potraits or subjects on short distance, the OM-1 is overkill. In this situation you can sell the OM-1 and buy a medium range FF.
Let your lens selection or what you want to use for a lens decide. The OM5 is a powerful camera, and so lovely in size, but if you want or need bigger lenses then keep the OM1. That said, if you already have a FF get rid of the OM1.
I have both. The OM-1 is superb for wildlife, but by MFT standards it's a tank. I use the OM5 for travel, street and where 'professional gear' get too much attention. If your FF needs are landscape, event, architecture, fashion, portrait or astro, then I'd dump the OM1. But if you shoot just landscape and wildlife keep the OM1 and dump the FF. Choices, choices ...
May I make a sincere suggestion, your video is excellent quality and informative but I clicked on this to get an idea about the cameras and they were barely visible in the entire video, just a continuous shot of your face...!
I guess I am waaaayy late to the conversation but I would sell om5 and get a small, older pen or something like that for cheap as an “everyday” camera.
I have neither...Buuuuuuut.....I have a EM5ii and EM1ii. The 5 is used mostly around the house and in my area. I take the 1 for memorable trips to faraway lands due to the 2 card slots.
OM1 all the way, a more professional body that can do more especially when the environments where you take photos are humid and warmer, it will not suffer more wear and tear if you don't baby it...
While this is actually just click bait...no one really needs anymore than the OM5...people get too wrapped up in what the camera "tool" can do....keep the OM-1, but as I said you don't really need anything better than the OM5! Micro 4/3rds can do most everything one needs. It's about you, not the camera!
Thank you so much. You buy all the gear we'd all love. This is a hard choice. Om1 is so nice, battery,cards, ergonomics,inner tech. But footprint as u say so close to full frame option. But the om5 oh boy Optimus prime. At the concert. I can't wait til you get the om systems om5ii😂
Always the one that makes you want to take it with you and take pictures - irrespective of specs, they are both more than good enough.
You have a full-frame, “full-size” camera that can do about everything the OM-1 can do, plus better low light and more room for cropping. The OM-1 is about the same (large) size. The OM-5 is the only option that yields a smaller form factor. Easy choice: the -5 for the size.
So do I but my Sony and it's lenses are much bigger, heavier and most are more expensive. I grab my OM-1 more often than my sony. I even tried renting the 200-600, owned the 100-400 for a couple weeks. I compared my images from the same subjects and prefer what I shot with my OM-1 40-150 + MC-14 tele. Love my sony for portraits. Other than that though. I grab my OM-1.
Wow, you’ve never really used any computational photography tools.
OM5 - the perfect size and weight.
I'm going to be buried with my EM5iii & PanaLeica 15mm. My bigger, heavier Q2 just sits on a shelf gathering dust. Properly exposed RAW 20MP images rival those of the 47MP Leica and are superior in low light! Who would have thought for a M43 sensor?
For me the OM5, combined with a small lens like the 12-45, is a great compliment to my Nikon Z full frame setup. To get 24-90 equiv, with all the computational bells and whistles in a weather-sealed kit is no easy feat. The a7c/ii is great, but they don’t have any lenses with that kind of range and size. The f8 equiv for me is fine while the light stays good. And if it’s not good, the 45 1.8 is ridiculously compact and gets the job done. I do a lot of outdoor adventure-y things, and that is the setup that almost always accompanies me. I leave the Z for the most light-challenged settings or for when I absolutely need to nail a portrait, but for me portability usually wins out. I’m almost always happy with the results.
I am now retired and chose the OM-5 as a great travel camera especially matched to the 14-150mm lens. Its light and compact yet still gives great photos. The more I use it the more i am liking it.
I had the choice between the two at a camera store and picked the om5 because it was lighter and more compact. Very happy with the shooting experience and the results
The camera with the stacked sensor is the one I would pick - OM-1. Electronic shutter that gives you quiet operation with fast sensor readout, no risk of shutter shock, and less wear on the mechanical shutter for the few times you need it.
So what i have found buying the nikon zf I enjoy the camera when im using the 26mm 2.8. But if i put the 35mm 1.8 on it id rather use the om5 with 17mm 1.2. Couldn't just pick one from those two or the two i have for a similiar comparison. But for your concert i would take om5.
Om5 it is
The few times I’ve switched back to m43 I’ve always gone towards the e-m5 models over the e-m1 purely for the ability to change the over all size of the camera with the additional grip and the extra battery grip section. To me that takes priority over some of the higher end features because sometimes I’ll just leave cameras at home due to having to carry around something bigger.
That’s my reservation too
I think both have a place. I’ve got the OM-1 and an EM-5 mk II. I’m waiting for the next version of the OM-5 to come out. I would really like an upgraded EVF, menus and USC-C.
Om1 all the way. I have had the em5iii and I have larger hands and would get the grip you had. So if I need a grip for om5 then I would just keep the om1 for all the reasons you said it was great and especially the grip
I’d keep the OM5 knowing you already have the bigger FF camera if needed. It’s nice that the OM5 can be big or small depending on need.
That’s where I’m leaning
I used to struggle with these questions, but these days, it comes down to keeping what I enjoy shooting. Whether it's one or more cameras is almost irrelevant. If you're enjoying the OM5 and OM1 and can afford to keep both, then perhaps avoid the temptation of needing to justify keeping both. I can't justify having 4 camera bodies and lenses for each, but enjoy shooting them all depending on the situation and mood. Just my opinion.
I have both an OM-1 and OM-5 so here's my thoughts. It's not about the cameras as much as your use case. There are things an OM-1 can do (i.e. computational photography) that no other camera can do, FF or not, but if you don't use those things then they won't count in your decision. You mention the body size of the OM-1 is about the size of your FF body, but you don't seem to tie in the much smaller MFT lenses which will always make the OM-1 system smaller than an equivalent FF system. With the OM-1 you have a pro-grade camera which gives more than enough in many areas to make up for what it give up relative to *some* FF cameras for many use cases. But does that work for you?
So, that leaves the OM-5. Your "transformer" analogy is very good - the hand grip you already have does give that camera the ability to comfortably handle longer lenses. The "plastic" body of the OM-5 is an advantage in reducing weight. I have an OM-5 and a PEN-F, and although the latter's metal build is satisfying to pick up, the OM-5 is much better to carry, and the kinds of plastic used in camera bodies is very strong and will shrug off impacts that could bend a metal body. The menu system is not that big a deal - yeah, the OM-1's menu is much cleaner, but with all the custom preset storage and button programmability of the OM-5 how often do you use the menu system? With the OM-5 you are choosing a very capable camera you can configure to fit in a (big) pocket, as you described. But, you are also relegating your MFT gear to non-pro uses and as a "small" or backup system, which for me would be doing that system a big disservice.
Personally, I'm a dedicated MFT shooter so I would keep both and dump the FF camera. But, that's me. Taking just your video comments, it sounds to me that you think your FF camera does enough of what you would use your OM-1 for that there is a lot of overlap, but you can't ever configure your FF system to fit in a pocket like the OM-5 - so it does something that no other camera you have can do. Good luck!
Just what I was thinking. I dumped my FF for the OM1 and I sold my OM5, however I do have a Lumix GX9 which I use for concerts and street stuff. It's even smaller and it too has a grip if needed and is much cheaper than the OM5 and uses all my oly lenses. There are many choices.
Im deciding between both om5 and om1 just for macro, 60mm, wich would you choose?
Which one did you keep? I’m interested because I’d like to buy one and they are quite at the same price these days.
I have both and neither is going anywhere. I use both of them extensively on events for different purposes and both perform excellent. If you do not need the money I just cannot understand why you should get rid of one of them. You keep the OM-5 obviously for its size. Then ask yourself is the full frame camera as rugged and weather sealed as the OM-1? Has the full frame camera Live-ND (64), Pro Capture, Live Time, Live Composite, Object recognition, Art Filters, and so on? Do you want to lug around two sets of different mount lenses just for the sake of full frame? If not, you should keep the OM-1 as well.
It’s a Nikon d780. I think it gives a different look at times.
@@ericrjennings Nikon definitely gives a different look and quite a beautiful one as I am concerned. Like I said, if you do not need the money I would not sell any camera. I have a lot of cameras and use them exactly as you say for different looks or different needs. To me it is not a problem if a camera sits on a shelf for a while as longs as it is there when I want or need it. Just my thoughts. I am curious what you will decide 🙂
I haven't been following your videos lately and I was surprised (and happy) that you are back on the OM/Olympus train!
Thanks. It’s always temporary lol
@@ericrjennings lol. On another note, would love to hear your thoughts on the upcoming "Leica" D-Lux 8...
@@glennsakI have it on my alert list
This will probably reach you too late for tonight’s concert. But I too have both an OM-1 and an OM-5. And I sometimes shoot performances here in NYC (nightclub, theater). The OM-1 has been disappointing in its low-light focus locking/tracking performance, even with up-to-date (May 2024) firmware. The OM-1 may be great for birding but I’ve found it to be no better than the OM-5 in low/bad-lighting situations. There is an OM-1 firmware update coming in the fall so I’d try to defer a keep/sell decision till then. The Panasonic G9M2 has better autofocus than both OMs but even it is inferior to the Sony A6700 in subject-tracking performance.
I find the 8-inch lens limit interesting. That would rule out my present favorite concert lens (the massive full-frame Tamron 35-150 F2-2.8 on the A6700). But unless you are located very close to the performers, I fear the superb Oly 75mm won’t have quite enough reach. If the performers aren’t wildly all over the stage AND you are willing to lower your shutter speeds (start at 1/200 and go down) and/or raise your ISOs (start at 3200 and go up), then MFT has several lenses that might work out (Oly 40-150 F4, 12-100 F4, 40-150 F2.8, Panasonic 35-100 F2.8). BTW I hardly ever worry about higher ISOs if it means getting an in-focus, non-motion-blurred shot. Ai post processing can reduce high-ISO noise, but not poor focus or motion blur.
I know this doesn't help you, but I've been struggling with this issue too. For now at least, I have an OM-1 and an A7CR. So far, I haven't found a rational for keeping the OM-1or even trading it for an OM-5. The Sony is significantly smaller and lighter than the OM-1 and is the same size as the OM-5 except for the depth. That's because it has an actual grip which the OM-5 doesn't. If you add the grip to the OM-5 is larger and heavier than the Sony. But what about lenses you ask? Surprisingly, for my use case, and considering the equivalence factor, they are fairly close. I want a walk around lens for travel etc. Maybe the 12-45/4 for the OM-5 (that's an F/8 equivalent) and a Sony 28-60mm/4-5.6.for the A7CR. Still lighter and faster than the OM. Same goes for wide zooms and telephoto zooms, and with the Sony I have the option of 60mp or 24mp in crop mode with extended range. I have fought this for months, because I have a sentimental attachment to Olympus, (first film camera and first digital camera) but I just can't ignore the facts.
This is exactly what makes me sell Olympus every time
@@ericrjennings you are the only person I know with worse G.A.S. than me! Like I've used about everything at one time or another. I've boiled it down to this: Sony for low light and AF. It wins over every brand every time. The others may have caught up, but I have the lenses. OM Systems/Olympus for weather sealing and IBIS. M4/3 is the absolute best at IBIS. Right now I'm trying to decide e-m mk iii v OM5 v OM1 so this was a great video
I had luck bringing EM-53 into NBA stadiums. It's much less professional looking than the OM-1, which is good for concerts. And for lens, maybe the Panasonic 35-100 f4-5.6 would be a good option? You do need to use higher ISO but it is extremely small and low profile for security checkpoints.
The OM1 is a much more versatile camera. Plus it's a professional body and will hold up really well over time. That being said, if you are looking for a smaller/lighter solution, then OM-5 isn't a bad option. Honestly, at those two price points, it's not a bad idea to hang on to both. That way you can take the right one that suits the situation. I use my A7Cii nearly every day, but I still have A7RV and A7Siii for when I need those tools (or want to mix it up a bit)
It's not the body size that matters, it's the lens. Buy into a lens system first then find a (good) body that can use it. I have both OM1 (mkII) and OM5 and use both. I ended up selling all my FF kit because lugging around FF lenses was getting too much. Sure, you can cherry pick small FF lenses and pick the biggest M43 lenses to compare it to, but on the whole M43 lenses are smaller and lighter and that is why I moved to that system. I also print up to A2 from these bodies so the MP count is a non issue.
If I could only keep ONE, it would be the OM5 because it's smaller and lighter and can do 95% of the OM1. The only thing it's missing (for me) is the extra AI focusing, live GND and the extra 3 stops of live ND. If you don't use those features and don't use bigger lenses (e.g. 40-150 f2.8) then there is probably nothing keeping you in the OM1.
I know both menu systems pretty well and have no problem using either.
And how about if you only need macro... M5 or m1?
@@marcosrotllan It depends on what you want to shoot. Generally speaking, the OM5 is as good at macro at the OM1 or Om1 mk II, with the caveat that the OM1 mk II has better AI focusing for some subjects. If your subjects are not moving, or you have time to focus on them then the OM5 will do just as good a job. You have the choice of 30/60/90 macro lenses (as well as a couple of other like Lumix) and they work equally well on both cameras. If you are shooting bugs, with high speed focus stacking the 90mm macro is pretty sweat but the 60 macro does a good job too. Some people will warn of the OM5 tripod mount, but for any of the macros (and most other lenses) it's just not an issue at all.
BTW - I did buy some more FF kit (including macro), but that does not mean M43 isn't awesome for macro - it is and I still have it / use it.
I have both and I’m going to keep both.
The OM 1 only makes a big difference in animal photography. Birds etc. if you’re not doing that, keep the OM 5 for the size.
You will always get into a situation were you want a small capable system and the OM 5 is pretty good at being that.
You always have Full Frame for more sophisticated stuff.
Recently made a look back through my photos from the last 10 years. Of my top 50 photos, 40’were shot in the year and a half that I had the E-M 5 Mk iii. 5 weee with E-M 1 Mk iii, 3 with Fuji X-T 4 and 2 with LUMIX S 5. Thinking about why that is the case, the bottom line is that, while all were perfectly capable of great images, the E-M 5 iii was always with me. Many of the images were taken on long hikes in the mountains. Thinking of going to OM 5
Due to handling I much prefer the OM-1. I had the original E-M5 with a grip and the aftermarket hand grip and it just never felt as good as the E-m1 / OM-1 body. I also much prefer the new menu system. But thats just me. I am curious though. As a fellow Michigander. What venue were you going too that allows an 8 inch lens? I have always wanted to try concert photography outside of small venues where the lighting is often poor. Just measured the 40-150 and it's 6 1/2 inches without the hood. My Tamron 35-150 is 7" but not sure if I could get in with it or not. Hell I'd go to shows of bands I don't even like to have the opportunity to shoot them. I didn't read the comments yet. Did you make a decision?
I have both, but if I had to give one up, I would probably keep the OM-5. Simply because it can be smaller. The image quality is really not too much different at all.
Love your content Eric, I am on the similar verge right now as I am also into M43 and have G85 and Oly E-PL9
Seems that I enjoy more Olympus ergonomics and overall feel in the hand, so now thinking to buy OM-1
Combining OM-1 with Sigma M43 trinity lenses that I bought, and Olympus 25mm 1.8 which is always on E-PL9 as my EDC set. I just need more content like these to convince me to stop looking for FF because I don't need it actually. 😇
In the context of having a FF option, the OM5 is more in line with the smaller form factor of 4/3, trading features and build for a slightly larger body.
The technical trade-offs are easy, but it's the form factor and which will get used more. Honestly, with the bodies just different enough that maybe keeping both for now is the easier decision.
Or sell the OM5 and pick up a Pen F.
If you really like what your full frame camera can do compared the OM-1, I’d keep the OM-5. However, if features like subject tracking are important, as well as high shooting frame rates, I’d keep the OM-1 or maybe look into the OM-1 II.
If you're going to keep the Nikon and have to sell one of the others, then keeping the OM5 makes better sense due to its small size and weight. You can carry it with you to places you wouldnt normally consider taking a camera
Excellent video 😊!
I have the OM-5 and the OM-1 MkII. I had to trade in my OM-1 to afford the OM-1 MkII. For the concert I would take the OM-1 MkII. The Human Subject AI AF is vastly improved. The low light AF is very good in the OM-1 MkII.
Anyhow, I do like owning both. The OM-5 is a really fun camera for family outings where compact size is important. Still it takes a little extra effort and the OM-1 MkII makes it very easy. I am keeping both.
I can't help you there, but I will say I almost ordered the G9II, but didn't because it's just a little to big for what I want it for, but the day isn't over yet ;)
Why one of them needs to go ? I have both and I keep them both. Best combo ever.
Just because I have a ff camera too
You have an OM1 from the OM5, i.e. the OM1!The camera is better in everything.
I'd lean to the OM-5. Just being a smaller body may also give it a pass for your concerts or anywhere else. My bias is toward smaller cameras and why I have an E-M5.3 instead of an E-M1.2 :) Honestly, the only real downside is the AF system. And no USB-C for charging given when it was released.
I would keep the om1,they promised an update later this year.if you put on a small lens it still very portable.😉
M planning to move from canon eos rp to mft. will em1 iii or em5 iii will be better choice. shd i move to mft. i mostly take portraits. have 24 50 and 85mm
I'd keep the OM-1 if you're doing wildlife, waterfalls (more ND stops), etc. If you're doing quick snaps, the OM-5. I'm not sure the OM-1 is worth it for the 300 F4 though. You can get the full frame 300 PF for lighter or the 400 F4.5 from Nikon. I just got the 150-400 and it's amazing, but not sure the other wildlife lenses are better than recent full frame offerings.
Om5 Because you have to put a value on portability factor and grab and go over another bigger (better spec) camera..
Thank about it..
Are you really going to notice a lot on the quality differences?
Are you going to make an 8x10 print?
I’m 60 years old and I had a amazing Leica camera for 30 years
After the frustration of bringing that with an extra lens after the first year
I decided the fun factor and the ease of just grabbing something as I was running out the door was so liberating..
Still have my leica and enjoy it a lot
But only at a relaxing venue
Blessings Greg
I recently sold my om5 for the nikon zf. I also had considered the om1. My reasoning: find the your main use case to own m43 next to full frame.
For me: The om5 has a place as fun, bring everywhere camera, fuck it if it breaks-camera, with a very high quality image output. The small size, relatively low price, and still ergonomic, is the perfect combination for owning both full frame and m43.
I appreciate the om1 for its tank-like weatherproofness that brings easy of mind. And I think high quality compact zoom lenses is where m43 shines. But its not something I personally enjoy as photography, meaning I wont take a camera with me when it rains 😂.
All other reasons are minor in my opinion: the difference between newer sensors and the om5 is not that big. I find the om5 also responsive and modern in autofocus.
I sold the om5 for one reason only, the fact its weather sealed and the lenses Ill want to keep are not (15mm, 45mm). This bugs me in a strange way 😂
Your.problem from where I sit is that if you do this, you no longer will have redundancy if you sell either. The full frame can't use the lenses, so not an option. OM-1 or OM-5 fail, and you have the other that you can swap the lens you wanted to use onto. Keep both, or you're likely to kick yourself over it later.
Whichever one you feel best with that gives you the most satisfaction.
Hardly an agonizing decision, just pick one and go or it, the mere fact you have to put an extra grip on the 5 kinda means its not for you. I have used EM1, EM5 mk2 and EM1 mk2, and really it makes no blinkin difference. It reminds me of a song and is very applicable to your girlfriend or your camera, so when you think you want to stray, say to yourself "just love the one you are with" Not a bad philosophy in life. Love conquers all demons
I think the positives on the OM1 outweigh the OM5 or at least in my opinion. Better battery, menus, focusing are just a few you mentioned
And I have neither. I still have an OMD EM1 II. and Fuji X-S20.
So…. You should keep the OM-1 and list the OM-5 on FM😉 I sold mine a while ago and really miss it. I have a Sony FF system but still prefer Olympus/OM for fun and everyday carry.
I’d keep the OM-5 if I already had a larger camera. It’s nice to have a good camera that isn’t too pro looking, and you’ll have that with the OM-5. Saying that, I can see a use case for an OM-5 (family, travel), OM-1 (wildlife, landscape) and a FF camera for low light photography.
The three camera setup seems unnecessary but I tend to agree with you
@@ericrjennings yeah, it definitely is, but then I’d maybe stop the constant switching between systems! I was out today with my 40-150mm f/2.8 and a GX9 trying to take some bird photos, and it was good fun, but the autofocus isn’t best suited. So that’s where an OM-1 (or G9II) comes in. I’d then like a cheap FF (Z6 most likely) and a couple of primes for indoors and winter.
I run myself in circles on this question and so far just give up and keep the om-1 and my em-5 iii. If I had to keep one, it'd be the em-5. Easier to have for bopping around. Just wish it had the better menus and usb-c charging.
Idk, i would choose the better performer with the superior sensor.
I own the OM-1 and an E-M1 iii (from which the OM-5 is derived). If video is important, then keep the OM-1, as (versus E-M1 iii/OM-5) it's a much better camera for video - very low rolling shutter, better C-AF, 10-bit capability, better image detail etc. - and it's got a much better EVF. But if it's primarily for stills use, I'd be tempted to keep the OM-5 instead just for the smaller size/lower weight (I've thought about buying one myself for that reason as replacement for my E-M1 iii).
The positive point of the OM-5 is that it is small and this is not found much in other brands. OM-5 can be used in situations, like concert, where you can not enter with big cameras.
The OM-1 has not the size advantage and it is the same size as a medium prize FF cameras. If you don’t need high speed photo shootin, which is the strength of OM-1. Or you are shooting mainly potraits or subjects on short distance, the OM-1 is overkill. In this situation you can sell the OM-1 and buy a medium range FF.
Rumor om5.2 next year?!!?!!
The om-5 is still pretty big! I’d sell that one and get an even smaller MFT.
Like what
Olympus Pen (ep-L8)! So cute :-)
which one did you end up keeping?
Fuji xt5
Still X-T5? 😉
@albawitt obviously not lol
Let your lens selection or what you want to use for a lens decide. The OM5 is a powerful camera, and so lovely in size, but if you want or need bigger lenses then keep the OM1. That said, if you already have a FF get rid of the OM1.
I have both. The OM-1 is superb for wildlife, but by MFT standards it's a tank. I use the OM5 for travel, street and where 'professional gear' get too much attention. If your FF needs are landscape, event, architecture, fashion, portrait or astro, then I'd dump the OM1. But if you shoot just landscape and wildlife keep the OM1 and dump the FF. Choices, choices ...
May I make a sincere suggestion, your video is excellent quality and informative but I clicked on this to get an idea about the cameras and they were barely visible in the entire video, just a continuous shot of your face...!
Keep both! Then you’ll always have something to consider, keeping your GAS at bay!😁
3 cameras feels like a lot right now
I guess I am waaaayy late to the conversation but I would sell om5 and get a small, older pen or something like that for cheap as an “everyday” camera.
I'm getting this channel confused with one month two cameras,give me a spoiler on what the next one will be?
😂
Both. Wide-mid zoom on one, mid-tele zoom on the other.
If you're going primes, and not shooting fast action, the om5 should do the trick
I have neither...Buuuuuuut.....I have a EM5ii and EM1ii. The 5 is used mostly around the house and in my area. I take the 1 for memorable trips to faraway lands due to the 2 card slots.
OM1 all the way, a more professional body that can do more especially when the environments where you take photos are humid and warmer, it will not suffer more wear and tear if you don't baby it...
If no birds or wildlife or live nd 64 I would say keep the OM-5
No one else is asking: who are you going to see?
Hozier
Why sell one.....if you can afford to keep both? Enjoy them both....for different reasons.
Om-1. I have big hands and it feels much better in the hand.
Appears that you have more pros than cons for the OM-5...
If it’s size your after om5
Instructive video but man we need to see the cameras more clearly rather than just when you hold them up to your face.
While this is actually just click bait...no one really needs anymore than the OM5...people get too wrapped up in what the camera "tool" can do....keep the OM-1, but as I said you don't really need anything better than the OM5! Micro 4/3rds can do most everything one needs. It's about you, not the camera!
It’s not clickbait. Clickbait implies the title is misleading. It’s not. I delivered exactly what the title suggests the topic is about.
Easy - if there are places where you’d take the 5 and not the 1, keep the 5.
I would keep the little one.
Take the om 5. In low light better Autofokus
Thank you so much. You buy all the gear we'd all love. This is a hard choice. Om1 is so nice, battery,cards, ergonomics,inner tech. But footprint as u say so close to full frame option. But the om5 oh boy Optimus prime. At the concert. I can't wait til you get the om systems om5ii😂
OM-5 since it won't be your only camera.
I'd keep the OM-1, but take the OM-5 to the concert
OM 1 because of the menue
No one needs the middle child. Easy choice 😏
Om 5
OM-5
OM1
No question, OM-5 should stay
ooooooom-1 all way the om-5 just a toy
Wear ear protection. Tinnitus sucks.
Keep the OM1. OM5 is plastic.
DO NOT SELL.
Sell them both and buy another camera that is not perfect and use it for a while. Don't fight it. It is who you are.
There’s my spirit animal
Obviously you have a spending problem (assuming the companies are not giving you freebies in exchange for your endorsement.)
Maybe therapy would help.
Why do you need your hat on indoors? Bad manners.
What? lol