Winnipeg Canada a off duty police officer who had attended a retirement party for another officer drove home highly intoxicated. Rear ended a car at a stop light at highway speed killing the driver. The local Birds Hill Police failed to screen him for alcohol or perform sobriety tests. He was arrested on suspicion of impaired driving but not given the required tests. The Crown had to dismiss the charges. Birds Hill is a suburb of Winnipeg in which the Officer was a police officer. The province disbanded the Birds Hill Police department and had the RCMP take over policing. Royal Candian Mounted Police are federal police and patrol mostly rural areas and any jurisdiction that doesn't have a provincial or municipal police force and federal lands.
Not only that, they all knew it was all being recorded, and they continued with their blatant, double standard, in "our" face dispense of "just us". They all need to be charged and fired. "We, the people" say enough is enough!
@@kingofgrim4761 Exactly. There’s bigger problems to deal with, he got off once he’s going to expect it again. It’s insane to me people have the confidence to put everyone else’s lives at risk.
Typically I agree but I was pulled over for the same thing by a state trooper and he gave me a lot of chances to drive home but I was too far over the limit, they don’t all want to arrest you immediately, and I was picked up by a friend maybe an hour later
"It's a tough day and age when we have all this electronic stuff". Translation: I don't think we are going to be able to sweep this under the rug like we used to do.
except he wasn't. the chief was held to a different standard than others. no one else would have been hugged by the chief and driven home with a "serious talking to". Next time you are pulled over for DUI, request a hug and personal escort by the chief.
Well to be fair they should be getting drunk assholes off the road. Anyone driving drunk deserves to have their lives ruined for risking hurting other people's lives. They just don't belong expecting special consideration. They clean up the mess drunks create. It isn't like they don't know it is bad to drive drunk.
Problem is like stated in the video, they don't play by the same rules due to favouritism. If that would have been any other person with any other occupation. You'd be in a jail cell for sure. Walk the talk as they say, would be nice to see police do this.
Actually.... People "ruin" their own lives by choosing to drive while intoxicated as choices have consequences. That doesn't excuse off duty "law enforcement", but there definitely is preferential treatment between police regarding enforcement.
Being a cop is a favorite job for narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths, along with being bankers, CEOs, doctors, generals, judges, lawyers, politicians, preachers, media, sales, etc.. They love power and wealth, and love to be adored, admired and worshiped like God.
@@thomasdemooka4341 considering I have seen many videos recently where they arrested someone for DUI who wasn't under the influence. So yeah they do ruin lives but some ruin it with their bad choicee
The fact that the officer who made the stop mentions the cameras MULTIPLE times really shows why they're necessary. It's basically admitting straight up that the only reason he's doing his job currently is because the cameras are rolling. Had there been no cameras, once he found out the other dude was a Chief of police he would have just let him go right then and there.
And if you think about it a little, in this video they accidentally point out how lazy these cops are. I mean if they wanted to be subtle, the officer who made the stop already messed up by not waiting the 15 minutes, so he could have taken the chief to the station, waited too long, or get someone else to blow into the breathalyzer for the chief, and number of ways to nullify the evidence and end up with them not able to charge or convict the chief. Same results, chief walks off scot free, yet this way they would have looked like they weren’t playing favorites. But no, they didn’t bother with that even knowing they had cameras on them.
If not for the accountability of cameras now days they probably would have just followed or driven the chief home rather than allowing him to call another chief in his precinct to drive him home instead. My best friends brother was a cop (briefly) and quite frankly I was shocked at how many unethical things he/they would do for one another as a courtesy such as drunk driving.. not to mention the stuff they would confiscate from people and take it home. This was back in the day when body cams weren’t even a thought yet and no worries about on the job drug testing either. I would hear him and his friends laughing about how good the pot was that they had confiscated from some pull over stop as they were passing a joint around to one another. I couldn’t have been more than age 15 at the time but I had the wherewithal to know that he had no business being a cop. He was on foot chasing a suspect in a house robbery one day and that suspect rounded a street corner and hid in someone’s open garage. When my friends brother (the cop) spotted him the suspect hit him in the knee really hard with a tire iron.. and his career was over just that quick. Thankfully he needed to learn a different trade. I felt bad about his injury but he truly should have never been a cop in the first place, he went into it for all the wrong reasons. 🤦🏻♀️
So even with bodycams, they've still managed to figure out a way around the law to where they can still do shit like this and not receive any charges or fines. Incredible...
Would you feel the same way if it were you who was stopped and got a break to go home without further charges? Or are you mad that you think only they get breaks, and you wont ever?
@@cunderwood2323 What a stupid question. "Are you upset because the police are allowed to break public safety laws, and you can't?" That is clearly not what the person was saying. It's clear that they were upset that the police skirted the law because the suspect was a police officer, which is a sentiment I believe that most will share.
I've been saying this for years: One of the biggest problems with police, is that the "good" cops won't police the bad cops off the force, and that makes pretty much all of them bad cops.
The enablers and blind cheerleaders typically come running to call them "bad apples" while forgetting the entirety of the proverb, "one bad apple spoils the whole barrel."
I do agree with that, but it doesn't take away from the positive things the good officers do. It's better than not having the good ones. There will always be criminals, even in the police force, but hopefully more tech like body cams will deter more and more. You gotta admit, it's better than it was 50 years ago. Cops were beating ppl senseless and it wasn't even being recorded or reported. Even if they only do the right thing because they're being recorded, it's better than how it was. We just need to continue being compassionate towards one another, and keep moving in the right direction. Even when other individuals act immorally.
@Jack LNU I was going to say this, some people try to be "good cops" but then are treated the opposite of this guy, the bad cops will do anything to get rid of good cops.
Inclination, and yet they STILL didn't do their job. Even though the guy has won awards for DUI enforcement. IMHO I think the mayor should do something. I would have thought they would do the arrest. Clear cut case he's intoxicated. Not that the justice system would hold his feet to the fire like they would with normal people.
@@robertthomas5906 I'm not surprised by that. We are dealing with a deep rooted culture and trying to change that is never just like throwing a switch, it is a process. Here are the steps as I see them. 1) The public needs to be aware of when it is happening and have specific evidence of it. This is what the cameras give us 2) The public needs to raise enough of a stink about it with real consequences based on that evidence to change behavior. In this video we can see evidence that it is starting to impact their thinking. At very least they didn't allow him to drive himself home. 3) Slowly over time, incident by incident, department by department enough pain will be felt or seen that the culture will change. Step one is never going to lead directly to step three without step two. Step two won't occur if step one isn't in place first. If we ever want this to get to step three, pain needs to be exerted on the department and officers in incidents like this. The more public the pain is, the greater the impact.
@@Aquabob1 This is a huge nation with millions of cops. You seriously think your son in laws experience is the be all end all of the topic? Get real, pal.
@@Aquabob1 You're in denial Bob, as someone who has family members as well as friends with family members in the police force, I know that it happens and on the regular. That said ,that is the least of the corruption that happens.... on the regular.
Not true at all. My dad was a cop and I did a ride along with him on his last night working. His last stop was a guy who had drank a bit too much, and we ended up parking his car and driving him home ourselves. The guy had no criminal history, no history of drinking related crimes ( in public or driving) and cooperated entirely. He was open, honest, and simply made a mistake by having literally 1 too many drinks. This is something that happened more in the past, but with body cameras cops have been stripped of being able to make some decisions themselves. Charges arent always the best way to handle a situation. Sometimes just the interaction with the cop is enough to set people straight for the future.
Indeed, notice how the coproach's chief walked up to him and "asked" him if he could drive the drunk chief home. That means that the chief will throw his own coproach under the bus to protect his ass in any lawsuits.
Actually, it is a good and bad thing. You make a good point (obviously). However, this also shows that these cameras are starting to have some (minimum) affect.
The cameras just shift how they police and who the gang wants to deal with... Now its all wordplay to trick citizens to comply... Most policing is to let areas get molested with drugs and crime and pick and choose when and who to arrest to keep the for-profit jails and prisons full. You will never, ever, ever see a jail or prison at 75% or less capacity. EVER. Its pretty scary.
lol at 5:45 the other cop asks if he got it on the dash-cam. plus he even says "it's a tough day and age with electronics and technology", implying that if it wasn't for the recordings, the chief would have been able to get off scot-free without any repercussions for driving two times above the limit.
I've talked with old school cops in the 70s and 80s who straight up admitted to carrying a "burner gun" and baggies of crack for when "shit went sideways".
@@rickmann5227 in many "third world" countries, people are more afraid of cops than criminals since cops can rob and kill in broad daylight. America is fast becoming one.
I had 10 weeks of "counselling," I had classes, I have paid roughly $10,000 in fines / fees and my insurance to this day is still through the roof. Meanwhile he's just fine. Cool. This makes me trust the police even more!
If you were drink driving then you deserve every punishment you were given. Too many innocent children die as a result of drunk drivers, its disgusting to knowingly get behind a wheel after drinking.
@@nataliemcmillan2605 Thank you for demonstrating you have no idea what addiction is, or the cycle of abuse that follows. I wasn't posting my story asking for any replies. I was mainly pointing out that some mistakes are impossible to recover from for us NORMAL CITIZENS even after getting sober. (2 years 7 months alcohol free.)
"Retires" means he quits with full retirement for life, typically matching their pay when they retire, +all benefits for life. That's not punishment. That's a reward. Cops get treated special in America.
Chief Neske was scheduled to retire in a week I believe, he would have been better served to have told the officer just do your job, if he is intoxicated run him in for further testing, and call me in the morning with the results
There was a guy who got arrested for "possession of a controlled substance" because they supposedly tested it but it turned out it was only krispy kreme doughnut glaze on the floor in his vehicle.
People in every industry do this. Not justifying their behavior because they have a position of power, but people everywhere are the same and would do the same if they were police also.
@@Mike1614YT "putting your life on the line"? Like when they were afraid to go into that school and help those kids, so instead they let ONE lone shooter slaughter those innocent babies? Sure, they're "putting their lives on the line", as long as he's unarmed. 😉
@@lordvika2526 Saving lives doesn’t matter. You do something illegal you’re supposed to be held accountable. At the very least they could of made him pay a hefty fine (bigger than a civilian would) and be suspended without pay for a certain amount of days.
@@generalohu7782 oh no I do agree with that to a point. I was meaning more of a broader point. Like yes he should have been arrested for the drunk driving 100%, but should he be condemned for doing it? No because you also have to think of all the lives he saved before this 1 thing happened. Do we know if other things happened in the past? no we don't so we can't just assume it has.
Not only should they be treated at least like a normal citizen; they should be treated with greater scrutiny and punishment. This sort of thing should get all who permitted his actions fired.
People have claimed that I "hate the police" because I criticize their bad behavior. On the contrary, I don't hate the police, it's that I hold them in such high regard that I expect them to behave exemplarily. I count on them to do the right thing, and consequently have little tolerance for incompetence.
@@flowingafterglow629 YES! THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND!! I don't "hate" you for doing bad things. I sincerely loathe your existence when you swear and take an oath to do the right thing, consistently do the wrong thing, and act like you're never wrong.
@@flowingafterglow629 I agree in principle, but we have to allow some small margin for human imperfection. It may not be _"the most dangerous job,"_ but it is stressful AF.
@@zoopdterdoobdter5743 On the other hand, being pulled over by the police is not stressfull? I'm all for allowing some small margin for human imperfection, but that applies to those being arrested, too, right?
The only reason I thought he might is because of the title of the video and the UA-cam channel that this video is on. Otherwise I wouldn't have expected it. Most cops don't let it slide when body cameras are rolling. What a bunch of idiots they are.
Yeah, so Don't you guys know that in murrica cops are above the law? They can do whatever they want and usually get away with it - that's the literal definition of being above the law.
Another great example that, even with cameras rolling, they don't give a damn about public safety whatsoever. They just protect their own asses at all costs and expenses.
I watch these DUI stops from the UK and I'm not sure why the US system is so convoluted and subjective. Here, if you're stopped and the cop has the slightest suspicion of alcohol, out comes the roadside breath-test. Fail that, and it's off to the station for the Intoximeter. They take two samples, discard the highest reading and act on the lower reading. A Fail is an automatic 12-month driving ban ( though expensive lawyers have been able on occasion to plead mitigating circumstances ) and a fine. There is, as far as I know, no roadside sobriety test here. Repeat offenders get jail-time, and longer bans.
@@terencejay8845 If you don't see any Just actions in this video, it is because all these efforts were about protecting the Chief and his retirement and not the public nor enforcement of Law, The treatment of any John Q public would to entice him into creating the case for them, then execution on justifiable Facts. which would mean Jail time prosecution and a Bail that would exceed any reasonable amount to allow you to go home and prepare to fight said case or succumb to the facts in the case and plead or make a plea deal with prosecution! System is broken and kept in this manner to give allowance or favor to those in Power or have the moneys to fight said claim or entice others in giving an out!
I commend the officer for being so nice. He was nice before he found out the driver was a cop or police chief. All officers should be nice to people. The problem is that Chief Hall needed to suffer consequences, otherwise there is no deterrent for him not to drive drunk in the future, and they have put the entire community at risk.
The fact that multiple officers expressed concern with "having to" charge him for a crime he committed... and considered just letting him go as a professional curtesy, is very disturbing.
_"This is a tough day and age, man, you know, we have electronic things and technology"_ A direct translation of this is: 'If we were not monitored and kept in check we could break the law and get away with it, and for us that's a problem (it's 'tough') as it's something we want to be able to do'.
@@tomsweder7459 Yep, he may as well be saying _"you know, with all these CCTV cameras, it's making it real hard, you know, around elementary schools if you like the younger ones"._ It's practically an admission of an intent or willingness to break the law (and/or cover a fellow officer in the breaking of the law).
Just saying something like that should be enough for a punishment. It goes to clearly prove intent that they would break the law if they if they could get away with it.
yeah i heard that and searched if someone made a post like this because if not i was going to do, its clear they would of probably helped him home in his car and never made a report.... thinking hey he's been a cop for 40+ years and a sgt to boot and is going to retire in 9 months , they wanted to protect the shield and make this disappear so it doesn't taint his career
5:55 "Yeah, this is a tough age, with electronics and technology." That is a deeply disturbing statement. In other words, before there were police bodycams, what would happen here is that once they found out he was a fellow cop, they'd say have a nice night, maybe even apologize, and let him go on his merry drunken way.
I wonder what the fat chief would do if he caught one of us mere mortals drunk driving. I also, wonder what would happen if it was his own police department, would they arrest their own chief?
And then the supervisor added "it's your call", what a coward. He can now always tell his colleagues that it was not his choice and talk bad about officer Dye.
This is exactly why law enforcement on all levels needs an independent review board to investigate any questionable activity, not the police investigating themselves.
This is the eternal problem that we haven't yet solved. There's no such thing as an independent objective review when it comes to government. There's no length they won't go to achieve the results they have to have. Short of something like jury selection at random, it's only a matter of time before it's a compromised group. And even then, I'm not so certain.
I would love to see more of these cop on cop or cop on any other official videos. "Professional courtesy" shouldn't mean that they're allowed to get away with serious stuff just because they're part of the same club.
It's incredible that these cops openly acknowledge that things would be different if it weren't for the "electronic things and technology". Then, in the end, it turns out that things are not different.
Yeah, really the only difference between this and the Chicago incident they kept referencing is they drove the drunk cop home instead of letting him drive home.
I actually felt bad for office dye. He was clearly trying to do the right thing, even if he made technical mistakes, but worried about what the repercussions would be if he did what he was supposed to or if he didnt since it was all on camera. Makes you wonder what the culture there is like if he was that afraid to do his job
If you put your job in front of the safety of others, and most importantly, the trust of the public while in a position of power, you're just as much of a piece of shit as the drunk chief. That is final and not debatable.
You're right, he knew full well that, after discovering he's pulled over a drunk, old school chief, whatever decision he made from then on wouldn't end well for him or his conscience in the long run. That is utter BS.
The officer deserves no sympathy. He was more worried about how it would look for him and the department than he was about public safety. He felt obligated to do the right thing, but didn't actually want to. He had to bring in his boss to make the call to let the chief get away with it. Acab.
I once worked in a jail when a drunk judge was brought in. He wasn’t under arrest though. He was kept in booking with the officers and fed water and coffee,until his blood alcohol content was below the legal limit. Then he was driven home in the front seat of a police vehicle, and another cop drove the judge’s, personal car home for him. It was never part of any official record, and the public never found out.
Was it in Marion County, FL? One of the judges there is a notorious drunk driver. I won't put his name here, for legal reasons, but he's known locally as "Judge Fudge," which sounds very close to his actual name.
Actually, he didn't. It was clear that the first officer was scared sh______. For good reason. I am not sure what I would have done in his situation. He frequently warned EVERYONE of the potential liability. He also repeatedly told everyone that Hall was drunk as a skunk. His Chief implicitly took the over the case. This is the problem "good" cops face. The old adage that rot starts at the head.
The officer clearly wanted to let the drunk Chief go, but was afraid to, so he got someone higher ranking to make that decision thinking that it lets him off the hook.
@@jborrego2406 Unfortunately, the smart thing would be to move to another police department while Hall's attorneys are trying to throw him under the bus. Then, he would be considered one of the thousands of police officers who resigned to stop an internal investigation. I think that the majority of police officers are like him. Cases like this one is their biggest nightmare. He couldn't employ the usual "on the job" wink and a nod because Hall's behavior was too egregious and too well-documented. Plus his own statements and demeanor would normally be interpreted as an admission of guilt. The senior patrolman basically told him that he was on his own. "I will support whatever decision you make 100% Now, I got to go." His Chief basically told him that this incident was over. "I have known Hall for years. But, do what you got to do. I am going to have a talk with him on the way home." Yet, he knew that they all wanted him to just walk away. Yet, he never (as far as I know) recanted his claim that Hall was totally f_____ up.
And the patrolman is apologizing for getting his chief out of bed...If the chief had taken a quicker turn to return to his car,, the patrolman's nose would've broken in two places...
I blew double the limit, my mandatory jail time doubled. I went to rehab before I went to court, so I only received the mandatory jail time, a fine, and 3 years probation.
Apparently the "badges grant extra right's" thing is alive and well ..And at the end of the day, sarge and his subordinates got a practical exercise in what drives, and amplifies, the distrust and disrespect people have for the profession these days...Cops like this throw LONG shadow over the professional cops out there...But amazing they didn't go the extra step and disappear the video footage...without that, these event never took place.
Not at all. The police have the ability to handle situations how they see fit. They can give a verbal warning a written warning a ticket or they can arrest you or they can just let you go. I have watched videos where they allowed a drunk driver to call someone else to come and drive them home and they were a normal person.
Lord Vika That's BS! Unless they're politically placed in an important position, or they know that "citizen", they never just let someone come to drive them home. Prove it, list the video!
@@lordvika2526 Who gave the police that type of power? When the Breathalyzer blows a 0.2, when he fails not one, but 2 field sobriety tests, and when he all but admits that he knows he's doing something wrong, why is it then up to an officer on whether he should be on the road or not? When the facts are that blatant, wouldn't it be more just to treat everyone the same and take him in?
You can really get a feel for the cheif's innocense by the way they had to drive a totally sober man home because of how not drunk he was. Poor guy must have run out of gas at the same time. Amazing officers!
This is FAR FAR bigger than you might think. If the police chief is fired for a legit reason - he can lose his city / state / taxpayer sponsored retirement benefits. If the police chief retires - he receives all of his pay and benefits. You just watched a man get away with 2 crimes. Drunk driving and now receiving his full taxpayer funded retirement and insurance benefits.
should a mistake deprive the police chief of pension and plunge him into poverty or be a burden on his children? remember in the legal system we are presumed innocent. he may have been guilty in this occasion but it also does not mean he had a career of misdeeds. rather than assume the worst because of a single interaction, he was still a net positive for his community
@@aSSGoblin1488 Should a single mistake deprive a private citizen the same benefits ? It frequently does. False accusations by police lead to DUI convictions and civil forfeiture without any evidence of a crime except that manufactured by misleading accusations. In fact - Unless and until the police , judges and members of our authority systems are held to the exact same standards as the public - there can be no justice. When the people witness the perpetual abuse by the authority systems against the people while dismissing the crimes of it’s members - they will eventually lose all faith and trust in that system creating the collapse of the social structure.
@@mixter7x7 - not really. Police Pensions are paid into by the officer much like you would pay into a 401K... so unless you can cite an example where a citizen lost his 401k account for a DUI conviction... taking his pension would be extreme. Should have be been arrested and charged? yes. his retirement account depleted? no...unless we are going to do that to all citizens.
Actually he can't lose his retirement benefits if his retirement benefits have been vested. Since he has been there so long his retirement benefits mostly likely are.
I'm typically the last person to defend police employees, but put yourself in his shoes. He was in an impossible situation, he knew he couldn't let it go legally, on the other hand if he doesn't let it go he has to worry about his coworkers shooting him in the back of the head.
"This is a tough day and age where you have electronics and technology" in others words he would gave him a pass if nothing was recorded but because they couldn't deny anything because all the proof was in the pudding, "I'd handle it like you would handle anything else"... wow just wow smdh...
Although i agree it’s easier said than done since no one wants to be cops because its dangerous they pay trash its a fucking toxic environment people hate cops and as obvious by many videos the training is not adequate
I mean, at least hundreds of people knew about and participated in Jeffrey Epstein's child r*pe business, including scores of Washington politicians, documented. Ghislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding, on film. Epstein is on Clinton's White House visitor's log 27 times. None of them are in prison. I don't think we need to re-staff these departments for glossing over a DUI.
The people not the public that’s where people go wrong public is the outside world you and me are just people in the public the police are public servants who look after the outside world from evil people
I don’t think anyone should get a break for breaking the law and endangering others. Police president god himself should be arrested for being careless. Just my opinion though
@@challengersrt5397 what’s ridiculous about the truth? We pay the government in which they get their salaries from and the ability to purchase the equipment they need to perform their jobs.
The only thing surprising about this incident is how well documemted this is. Corruption along these lines is the normal way that they conduct their "business". "Law Enforcement" believes down to the marrow in their bones that their every interaction with the public comes down to "Us"(them) vs. "Them"(us).
The officer who stopped him knew what he needed to do. It was his Sargent who called that chief, probably to brown nose, not knowing he was about to retire!
Their job and the "training" conditions them to this belief. It enables the belief that crime and other ills of society is solved by policing. Next step is justifying the police state and then fascism*. Police needs to be surveilled. Always. Otherwise they believe they are above the law. *Fun fact: the Nazi SS was mostly made up of former police officers
There should never be a "I don't know what to do" conflict on a DUI traffic stop. The person being pulled over should be treated like any other civilian and the status of being "law enforcement" is suspended because the person driving isn't operating in their professional capacity at the time of the stop.
I have had high school friends pulled over drunk in 1990s and 2000s and allowed to call and have someone drive them home or the cop drive them home and impound the car or have family go get it that night. Usually for first offense in our small, low crime town in IN. I see no issue as long as this was the first time. As long as we see a history or this attitude with all first time drunk driver pull overs.
11:15 I’ve got a more than likely stupid question. How did the Chicago inspector general know to investigate the superintendent’s drunk driving if none of the seven officers reported anything? Surely there isn’t a person on the payroll that reviews everyone’s body cam footage every day. What kicked off the investigation?
They said someone called 9-1-1 which is why the 7 officers showed up. Whoever called was probably suspicious and curious what happened. They might've even been nearby and saw/heard suspicious things. I'm sure they were shocked to see no EMT show up and the officers just let the person drive off on their own. If you see someone passed out in their car at a stop sign it's pretty safe to assume they're wasted.
Yeah I had to rewind it after he said that. "tough day and age, man, with all this technology" [He means devices that *RECORD THINGS*, I wonder why...]
@@123sleepygamer I just wish the officer would have said the right thing. Instead of saying "Look at the position you put me in." he should have said "Look at the position you put yourself in." 6 months from retirement and here he is breaking the law, expecting to just be let go because of who he is and who he knows. They keep talking about "I'm liable" and "I am recording" and stuff like that, feeling sorry for the law breaker instead of feeling upset that one of their own broke the law.
Amazingly, as far as I could see, the chief didn't ask for any special treatment other than saying he was a cop. I've seen others where they beg not to get out of the car, refuse to take the breath-a-lizer, tell the cop that he should do him a professional courtesy, ect. This guy did none of that.
@@ToddKing yeah, he even apologized and acknowledged they were just doing his job. It was weird and unexpected that he was kind of seemingly prepared to be charged
@@ToddKingWhat a stupid thing to say. Is that your go-to line you just tell everybody that they need to work on their comprehension? Nothing you said in your original comment addresses what he did. So there's no issue with anyone's comprehension here. Maybe just chill out a bit and stop being so edgy when you talk to people.
This is what corruption look like. The rest of us would have been arrested, charged, tried, convicted, fined and sentenced. That doesn't count having the car towed.
If the DRUNK enforcement person actually hit someone after being let go, they would still be let off without charges. TOTAL CORRUPTION!!!! Everyone (EVERYONE) involved should be fired and prosecuted.!!! SO DISGUSTED!!!
The O’Fallon Missouri shield shows observant dedication And professionalism that completely went out the window this one single stop has destroyed the entire police department and they’re trustworthiness to the community.
You might consider to stop doing that. This is the norm. Police are terribly trained, undermined by racists and love abusing their power to protect and serve their ego.
@@ArcturusAlpha Absolutely, when I see good policing I call it like it is and when I see bad policing I call it like it is but the problem is that there's a lot of bad polic are going on, the police would like you to believe that we only see the bad things on media but I've seen probably 50,000 videos of this kind of shit happening... That's not just a few bad apples. Tens of thousands of these situations is too many, I don't care how many people live in this country 🤷♂️
I saw a video earlier today of Joshua zaminski getting pulled over by the police treating them like crap and they don't do anything to him, Joshua ziminski is the guy who shot at Kyle hall for all for putting out the dumpster fire by the way...
@@Charlies_Factory sadly, good police footage is hard to find. Corruption is throughout the systems across the country. There’s a reason the fbi stopped investigating the police when they found a 40% lying rate on legal documents
@@Charlies_Factory The problem isn't bad cops though. It is other LE response to bad cops. The old farmer's adage about one bad apple is misused to explain away the bad apple. But the farmer's wisdom is find the bad apple and dispose of it before the rot spreads. LEOs are so terrified of falling short of standards that they don't actually want any.
The quality in these videos is unparalleled. Your commentary is incredibly informative and interesting and after two full days of this rabbit hole, I don't see me stopping this binge until I've seen them all. Truly incredible stuff my friend
5:58 "This is a tough day and age man, when you have electronic things and technology" Yeah it sure is a tough day and age when police have bodycams and have to be held accountable to the same standards as the rest of us. Let's just reminisce about the good old times when this would get swept under the rug...
That was the most disgusting statement.. Allow me to translate because of these goddamn cameras that make us wear we can't do whatever the hell we want out here anymore
They are not held accountable even with the body cameras. Chief showed up, drove him home and they kept on with their lives like it never happened lmao
5:57 what he is saying translates to...yeah we cannot get away with things anymore cause of all the cameras they make us use. WELL TURNS OUT THE CAMERAS DON'T EVEN MATTER.....PATHETIC!
What an awesome, competent and fit Police Chief for his position, i'm sure he passes all his fitness and other exams he does regularly since he follows the policies and laws i'm sure his department is in great shape following his command.
Wow. My father was a lifetime LEO. He was straight as an arrow and would never have allowed this to happen. This is exactly why we have a divide. It’s pure corruption.
did you used to go on patrol with him? Just curious how you know he would have never allowed this. Lot of cops present as 'straight as an arrow' to friends family and colleagues. But the reality on the roadside can be a whole lot different.
@@TheCunningStunt exactly. And even if his father was actually straight as an arrow, there's no way that there wasn't instances where he backed his corrupt buddies.
Actually, the law should be changed so that the penalty is severe enough that no one would consider doing it because I'm guessing now with "officer discretion" they would get off with a day off with pay and sternly worded report in their file.
I live in Saint Charles / O'Fallon MO area. The police break the road laws all the time without lights or sirens on. They speed, run lights and ignore traffic laws and drive how ever they see fit. I have even had them cut me off several times, once almost causing an accident. I am not suspired by this at all. While I understand the situation is difficult and my empathy says this is an old man who has served and is about to retire. Law enforcement people chose that career path, and on that path they should always strive to follow the laws and not abuse the position and power. However they are abusing the power in this area, as well as in the downtown area of STL. Until they show change and change my mind, I will always assume they are a club of power abusing bullies who care about their ego and each other, above the community they should be serving. Police wonder why no one respects them anymore, because they only respect other officers and view everyone else as a ticket or an arrest.
It’s a tough day and age when you have “electronic things” (body cameras) otherwise we would have just took him home, let him call a friend or taxi or just let him drive off and hope for the best.
I agree with the grading 100%. At the same time I do feel bad on some level for Officer Dye as he worked in a system that will punish him for doing the right thing (by coworkers) and punish him for doing the wrong thing (by the law and hopefully his moral compass). Still, unless he and others start doing the right thing the environment will never change -- and he signed up to take on such tough responsibilities.
I feel zero sympathy for that man. Had he not called 20 people for their opinions, and treated this like a normal stop, he wouldn’t have been punished. Would the charges still have been dropped? Maybe… but with everything on recording and documentation, he had every legal basis to arrest and charge him. He would have been fine. The worst that would have happened is that somebody was disappointed in him. Big whoop. This is why I don’t care what people think of me. Because I don’t let other people’s opinions dictate the decisions I make.
@@PtylerBeats If you arrest a police chief, you can kiss goodbye any promotion, not to mention that you have to face the blue wall. Meaning that some officers might not respond to a distress call from you or take their sweet time. It is very hard to standup and do the right thing. Also from federal side, there is no 'protection' for officers that standup against a higher ranked officer. Also if officer Dye makes a little administrative error (turns in paper work a few minutes late), they will write him up. More than 90% of the officers that do standup within a year have transferred to another department, usually in a different state. Meaning that you and your family might have to move, that is a very steep price to pay for doing the right thing... As long as we are unable to properly protect whistleblowers, no officer is incentivized to do the right thing...
The moral compasses of police, politicians, and government officials often point straight to the bank; ALL corporate executives' compasses certainly point there.
I think Oficer Dye knew exactly what he was doing, he referenced the Chicago PD case and deliberately left errors in the process of determining intoxication in using the field tests so that any defence attorney would be able to argue that they were inadmissiable in court. The fact that an arrest was not made so an evidental breath test could be made on an intoximeter tells you the entire motive behind the stop as soon as Officer Dye knew who was behind the wheel, that was simply to hand the matter over to a superior officer to deal with. The grading is aboslutely fair and I have little sympathy for an officer who knows what is going on, but who makes absolutely no effort to uphold the law he has sworn an oath to serve.
Excellent video!!! The Narrator does an outstanding job exposing the corruption that goes on in police 👮♀️ Departments!!! I Give him an A+ !!!! Outstanding!!!!!👍👍👍
Glad you covered this. I hope it's a lesson to all officers. In the private sector we report our colleagues for illegal behavior. You have an even higher standard to do so. Stop covering up the wrongdoings of those who took an oath to protect and serve. A violation is a violation. Weed it out or corrupt your WHOLE industry. "A little levens the whole lump." Infection ignored spreads and strengthens.
@5:58 angers me a lot. The dude pretty much admits that if this wasn't recorded they would have let him go. "This is a tough day in age man, you know when you have electronic things and technology." The first and second cops should be fired for a lack of moral judgement. Police chief Neske should be fired for a lack of moral judgement and charged with obstruction as he essentially ordered the other two to stand down. The mayor/city council should demand that all active duty and future officers undergo training of what to do in situations where other officers are the criminals (Hint: The same thing you would do if it were a private citizen.)
Cop 2: “Yeah this is a tough day and age with electronic devices recording. I’d handle it like anything else. It’s your call…” Translation: “If there were no bodycams we’d let him go. It’s all recorded so we can’t. It’s your stop so I’m stepping back for you to take the heat.”
I had to do this before! Recite the alphabet without singing. I kept laughing because I could hear myself singing in the slightest, and I pointed it out and the officer laughed too. Aside from the fact that he lied about my speed in order to pull me over, it was a good encounter and it ended with him telling me to drive safe because there's a lot of drunk people out. No warning, no ticket.
This voiceover work is so good, and performed so well, if he was delivering the exact opposite message I would probably love the idea of government interference. Excellent work!
just saying. I'd never submit to taking a field sobriety test. It cannot help you and can only serve as giving officers probable cause to arrest you, even if you aren't actually drunk. For instance, if officers asked me to stand on my right leg I physically cannot keep my balance on it because I had ankle surgery a couple of years ago and part of the tendon that controls that motion has been excised, so I don't have the necessary control over that muscle group for fine motion control required for balance.
Refusal to do a test has implications in certain states though. While it's "your choice", pleading guilty to lower crimes is limited; I think it's to coerce people to just submit to a sobriety test.
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You ready to be retired chief? Might as well retire tonight haha
cheers chief 🍻
are you my supervisor?
Winnipeg Canada a off duty police officer who had attended a retirement party for another officer drove home highly intoxicated.
Rear ended a car at a stop light at highway speed killing the driver.
The local Birds Hill Police failed to screen him for alcohol or perform sobriety tests. He was arrested on suspicion of impaired driving but not given the required tests.
The Crown had to dismiss the charges.
Birds Hill is a suburb of Winnipeg in which the Officer was a police officer.
The province disbanded the Birds Hill Police department and had the RCMP take over policing.
Royal Candian Mounted Police are federal police and patrol mostly rural areas and any jurisdiction that doesn't have a provincial or municipal police force and federal lands.
If that were a civilian he would be arrested and made to pay thousands of dollars in fines and lawyer fees. Total BS
Well he’s not a civilian so duh it’s gonna be different what did you expect 💀
@@hotdawgsgood not preferential treatment
@@hotdawgsgood cops should be held to a higher standard, not given a free pass
Not only that, they all knew it was all being recorded, and they continued with their blatant, double standard, in "our" face dispense of "just us". They all need to be charged and fired. "We, the people" say enough is enough!
@@hotdawgsgood Definition meaning of CIVILIAN -A person NOT in the Armed services OR Police Forces.
Exactly, my biggest problem with this stuff is the fact that if it was a normal citizen they would’ve been locked up instantly.
Which is so ass backwards. You’d think people who uphold the laws would be held to a higher standard
@@kingofgrim4761 Exactly. There’s bigger problems to deal with, he got off once he’s going to expect it again. It’s insane to me people have the confidence to put everyone else’s lives at risk.
@@kingofgrim4761 most of the sheep dogs don't even know the basics such as the constitution.
When normal people continue to give consent to be ruled by narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths, this is what they get.
Typically I agree but I was pulled over for the same thing by a state trooper and he gave me a lot of chances to drive home but I was too far over the limit, they don’t all want to arrest you immediately, and I was picked up by a friend maybe an hour later
"It's a tough day and age when we have all this electronic stuff". Translation: I don't think we are going to be able to sweep this under the rug like we used to do.
Worse is if that intoxicated police chief killed someone while driving, he would have been protected.
Exactly!
Made me sick what a fuck
Man said your call, what call?! He drunk there is only one call!
It's sickening these bastards have different laws for their buddies. God, this makes my blood Fucking boil!
"It's a tough day and age when we are held to the same standards as everyone else."
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THEN he tells Officer Dye that “..it’s your call.” WTF? Preferential Treatment, huh..??? ANY LEO should be held to a HIGHER STANDARD..!!🇺🇸
Exactly. Admits to mafia-style criminal behavior.
Such bull! Without electronic equipment, you’re getting a taxi ride on the tax payer home, mr. chief. 🙄😡
except he wasn't. the chief was held to a different standard than others. no one else would have been hugged by the chief and driven home with a "serious talking to". Next time you are pulled over for DUI, request a hug and personal escort by the chief.
They never seem to understand how they ruin people's lives until they have to play by the same rules
Well to be fair they should be getting drunk assholes off the road. Anyone driving drunk deserves to have their lives ruined for risking hurting other people's lives.
They just don't belong expecting special consideration. They clean up the mess drunks create. It isn't like they don't know it is bad to drive drunk.
Problem is like stated in the video, they don't play by the same rules due to favouritism. If that would have been any other person with any other occupation. You'd be in a jail cell for sure.
Walk the talk as they say, would be nice to see police do this.
Actually.... People "ruin" their own lives by choosing to drive while intoxicated as choices have consequences. That doesn't excuse off duty "law enforcement", but there definitely is preferential treatment between police regarding enforcement.
Being a cop is a favorite job for narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths, along with being bankers, CEOs, doctors, generals, judges, lawyers, politicians, preachers, media, sales, etc.. They love power and wealth, and love to be adored, admired and worshiped like God.
@@thomasdemooka4341 considering I have seen many videos recently where they arrested someone for DUI who wasn't under the influence. So yeah they do ruin lives but some ruin it with their bad choicee
This happened ON camera while the officer was afraid of repercussions. Just imagine what happens off camera, crazy world we live in
@@johnreiner3247 absolutely crazy people like this have power over you
He needs fired
if a superior is onsite, then the responsibility rests with him.. calling a superior is good move. unfotunately the guy got thrown under the bus
Right…
Im sure this wasnt the first time this guy did this.
The fact that the officer who made the stop mentions the cameras MULTIPLE times really shows why they're necessary. It's basically admitting straight up that the only reason he's doing his job currently is because the cameras are rolling. Had there been no cameras, once he found out the other dude was a Chief of police he would have just let him go right then and there.
And if you think about it a little, in this video they accidentally point out how lazy these cops are. I mean if they wanted to be subtle, the officer who made the stop already messed up by not waiting the 15 minutes, so he could have taken the chief to the station, waited too long, or get someone else to blow into the breathalyzer for the chief, and number of ways to nullify the evidence and end up with them not able to charge or convict the chief. Same results, chief walks off scot free, yet this way they would have looked like they weren’t playing favorites. But no, they didn’t bother with that even knowing they had cameras on them.
Naw, most likely they would've drove him home with his vehicle and then gotten promotions for going beyond their duties or something.
You think this cop would lock up his chief of police or the mayors wife or kids?
He still got away with it
If not for the accountability of cameras now days they probably would have just followed or driven the chief home rather than allowing him to call another chief in his precinct to drive him home instead. My best friends brother was a cop (briefly) and quite frankly I was shocked at how many unethical things he/they would do for one another as a courtesy such as drunk driving.. not to mention the stuff they would confiscate from people and take it home. This was back in the day when body cams weren’t even a thought yet and no worries about on the job drug testing either. I would hear him and his friends laughing about how good the pot was that they had confiscated from some pull over stop as they were passing a joint around to one another. I couldn’t have been more than age 15 at the time but I had the wherewithal to know that he had no business being a cop. He was on foot chasing a suspect in a house robbery one day and that suspect rounded a street corner and hid in someone’s open garage. When my friends brother (the cop) spotted him the suspect hit him in the knee really hard with a tire iron.. and his career was over just that quick. Thankfully he needed to learn a different trade. I felt bad about his injury but he truly should have never been a cop in the first place, he went into it for all the wrong reasons. 🤦🏻♀️
So even with bodycams, they've still managed to figure out a way around the law to where they can still do shit like this and not receive any charges or fines. Incredible...
Would you feel the same way if it were you who was stopped and got a break to go home without further charges? Or are you mad that you think only they get breaks, and you wont ever?
@@cunderwood2323 What a stupid question. "Are you upset because the police are allowed to break public safety laws, and you can't?" That is clearly not what the person was saying. It's clear that they were upset that the police skirted the law because the suspect was a police officer, which is a sentiment I believe that most will share.
I've been saying this for years: One of the biggest problems with police, is that the "good" cops won't police the bad cops off the force, and that makes pretty much all of them bad cops.
The enablers and blind cheerleaders typically come running to call them "bad apples" while forgetting the entirety of the proverb, "one bad apple spoils the whole barrel."
"All it takes for evil to flourish in the world is for good men to do nothing"
I do agree with that, but it doesn't take away from the positive things the good officers do. It's better than not having the good ones.
There will always be criminals, even in the police force, but hopefully more tech like body cams will deter more and more. You gotta admit, it's better than it was 50 years ago. Cops were beating ppl senseless and it wasn't even being recorded or reported. Even if they only do the right thing because they're being recorded, it's better than how it was. We just need to continue being compassionate towards one another, and keep moving in the right direction. Even when other individuals act immorally.
Every good cop I know of have been fired.
@Jack LNU I was going to say this, some people try to be "good cops" but then are treated the opposite of this guy, the bad cops will do anything to get rid of good cops.
It is strange that the only inclination to do the right thing spawns from the fact that they are recorded.
Almost like it’s a giant fucking gang with no accountability because they answer to themselves
Almost as if the justification behind body and cruiser cameras is spot on.
Inclination, and yet they STILL didn't do their job. Even though the guy has won awards for DUI enforcement.
IMHO I think the mayor should do something. I would have thought they would do the arrest. Clear cut case he's intoxicated. Not that the justice system would hold his feet to the fire like they would with normal people.
lol its only a reason to do a good thing when the other person has a badge. Body cams don't seem to stop abuse on citizens.
@@robertthomas5906 I'm not surprised by that. We are dealing with a deep rooted culture and trying to change that is never just like throwing a switch, it is a process. Here are the steps as I see them.
1) The public needs to be aware of when it is happening and have specific evidence of it. This is what the cameras give us
2) The public needs to raise enough of a stink about it with real consequences based on that evidence to change behavior. In this video we can see evidence that it is starting to impact their thinking. At very least they didn't allow him to drive himself home.
3) Slowly over time, incident by incident, department by department enough pain will be felt or seen that the culture will change.
Step one is never going to lead directly to step three without step two. Step two won't occur if step one isn't in place first. If we ever want this to get to step three, pain needs to be exerted on the department and officers in incidents like this. The more public the pain is, the greater the impact.
Just IMAGINE how many times a cop has pulled over another cop for drunk driving and let them go with no issues.
I told my grandmother about this video and she said, “Yeah that happens.” Like it’s no big deal…it’s expected. -_-
Now imagine how many people have died in car crashes because of this.
It doesnt just extend to police but their family as well
@@Aquabob1 This is a huge nation with millions of cops. You seriously think your son in laws experience is the be all end all of the topic? Get real, pal.
@@Aquabob1 You're in denial Bob, as someone who has family members as well as friends with family members in the police force, I know that it happens and on the regular. That said ,that is the least of the corruption that happens.... on the regular.
Literally no normal citizen would have been treated this well for a dui. It's sickening to see this cop treat him with such kid gloves.
Not true at all. My dad was a cop and I did a ride along with him on his last night working. His last stop was a guy who had drank a bit too much, and we ended up parking his car and driving him home ourselves. The guy had no criminal history, no history of drinking related crimes ( in public or driving) and cooperated entirely. He was open, honest, and simply made a mistake by having literally 1 too many drinks.
This is something that happened more in the past, but with body cameras cops have been stripped of being able to make some decisions themselves. Charges arent always the best way to handle a situation. Sometimes just the interaction with the cop is enough to set people straight for the future.
Chief Neske needs to be charged with obstruction, along with the initial officer who failed to stand up to his chief's obvious corruption.
Not his chief.
@@gradyjelly136 yes, the corrupt one is very much his chief. Not the drunk one.
Showing how they are actually "la cosa nostra" aka organized crime.
Neske should be FIRED & CHARGED! This is a disgusting misuse of his authority. He should NEVER be trusted in any capacity of policing again!
Indeed, notice how the coproach's chief walked up to him and "asked" him if he could drive the drunk chief home. That means that the chief will throw his own coproach under the bus to protect his ass in any lawsuits.
What’s really sad is that the only thing making these people do their jobs is the thought of them being held accountable (camera).
Actually, it is a good and bad thing. You make a good point (obviously). However, this also shows that these cameras are starting to have some (minimum) affect.
The cameras just shift how they police and who the gang wants to deal with... Now its all wordplay to trick citizens to comply... Most policing is to let areas get molested with drugs and crime and pick and choose when and who to arrest to keep the for-profit jails and prisons full. You will never, ever, ever see a jail or prison at 75% or less capacity. EVER. Its pretty scary.
That's why so many PDs are fighting against bodycams being required!
even with the camera he still did not do his job.
lol at 5:45 the other cop asks if he got it on the dash-cam. plus he even says "it's a tough day and age with electronics and technology", implying that if it wasn't for the recordings, the chief would have been able to get off scot-free without any repercussions for driving two times above the limit.
Imagine what cops let other cops get away with before body cameras
Murder, and other things you can't even imagine.
It's funny how they actually mentioned that, multiple times
I've talked with old school cops in the 70s and 80s who straight up admitted to carrying a "burner gun" and baggies of crack for when "shit went sideways".
Cops are the biggest gangsters, like the military.
@@rickmann5227 in many "third world" countries, people are more afraid of cops than criminals since cops can rob and kill in broad daylight. America is fast becoming one.
I had 10 weeks of "counselling," I had classes, I have paid roughly $10,000 in fines / fees and my insurance to this day is still through the roof. Meanwhile he's just fine. Cool. This makes me trust the police even more!
It’s fucked up and all, but I hope you realize that this was him not getting what he deserved, you got what you deserved.
If you were drink driving then you deserve every punishment you were given. Too many innocent children die as a result of drunk drivers, its disgusting to knowingly get behind a wheel after drinking.
@@nataliemcmillan2605 Thank you for demonstrating you have no idea what addiction is, or the cycle of abuse that follows. I wasn't posting my story asking for any replies. I was mainly pointing out that some mistakes are impossible to recover from for us NORMAL CITIZENS even after getting sober. (2 years 7 months alcohol free.)
@@Nunya111 That is literally the exact point I was making but thanks for clarifying.
@@swivels ok, that didn’t seem evident to me, but good
"Retires" means he quits with full retirement for life, typically matching their pay when they retire, +all benefits for life. That's not punishment. That's a reward. Cops get treated special in America.
Exactly !!
Pay is typically 50% when they retire, at least that’s what the departments near me are.
@@ShoddyRC 100% after 20 years where I live.
Chief Neske was scheduled to retire in a week I believe, he would have been better served to have told the officer just do your job, if he is intoxicated run him in for further testing, and call me in the morning with the results
@@ShoddyRC - AND they paid in montly to the pension fund for 20+ years... which the payment is more than dbl what FICA deductions are.
This right here is what the public hates about the police, they would have never did that for a regular citizen, rules for thee but not for me
People have been arrested even when the breathalyzer showed they weren’t intoxicated!
@@Maki-00 exactly. They’ll say it’s a dui controlled substance or something similar.
There was a guy who got arrested for "possession of a controlled substance" because they supposedly tested it but it turned out it was only krispy kreme doughnut glaze on the floor in his vehicle.
People in every industry do this. Not justifying their behavior because they have a position of power, but people everywhere are the same and would do the same if they were police also.
people look out for their kin. it's not unusual. you would do so for your "brother".
The body cams were the only thing that stopped this dude from just being let go instantly as soon as he said he was an officer.
A capital city FD Lt I know said the same city's police allow city fire fighters to go home while DUI all the time
Exactly, the fact that this clear DUI seems like some kind of conundrum to them, proves that the default culture is that they don't arrest their own.
Technology ,electronics this day &age accountability
you dont know that.
not necessarily. camera is a good excuse that you can not do anything. it's about the chief not taking revenge later.
It's so disgusting the courtesy is extended to this police chief. None of this courtesy would be extended to us peons.
yeah, maybe serving as a law enforcement officer and putting your life on the line for 40 years does get you some perks
@@Mike1614YT "putting your life on the line"? Like when they were afraid to go into that school and help those kids, so instead they let ONE lone shooter slaughter those innocent babies? Sure, they're "putting their lives on the line", as long as he's unarmed. 😉
@@GigglewithFelix321 you should just shut it. its best to just look dumb
@@Mike1614YT So that puts you above the average citizen? You're a servant of the people, don't forget that
@@Mike1614YT lol like it was assigned by birth and not a career choice?
How many people have been jailed with no mercy for this exact same thing by these two mob bosses over the years🤦
How many lives have they saved as well?
@@lordvika2526 Saving lives doesn’t matter. You do something illegal you’re supposed to be held accountable. At the very least they could of made him pay a hefty fine (bigger than a civilian would) and be suspended without pay for a certain amount of days.
@@generalohu7782 oh no I do agree with that to a point. I was meaning more of a broader point. Like yes he should have been arrested for the drunk driving 100%, but should he be condemned for doing it? No because you also have to think of all the lives he saved before this 1 thing happened.
Do we know if other things happened in the past? no we don't so we can't just assume it has.
@@lordvika2526 do you get to murder someone if you catch a lot of murderers?
@@lordvika2526 how do you know he ever did.
Not only should they be treated at least like a normal citizen; they should be treated with greater scrutiny and punishment. This sort of thing should get all who permitted his actions fired.
People have claimed that I "hate the police" because I criticize their bad behavior.
On the contrary, I don't hate the police, it's that I hold them in such high regard that I expect them to behave exemplarily. I count on them to do the right thing, and consequently have little tolerance for incompetence.
@@flowingafterglow629 YES! THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND!!
I don't "hate" you for doing bad things. I sincerely loathe your existence when you swear and take an oath to do the right thing, consistently do the wrong thing, and act like you're never wrong.
How do you regulate to regulaters
@@flowingafterglow629 I agree in principle, but we have to allow some small margin for human imperfection. It may not be _"the most dangerous job,"_ but it is stressful AF.
@@zoopdterdoobdter5743 On the other hand, being pulled over by the police is not stressfull?
I'm all for allowing some small margin for human imperfection, but that applies to those being arrested, too, right?
As soon as he said he’s the chief of police, I knew he was going to get away with it
Yeah, I was a little hopeful until the other chief of police was called. Then I knew how it was going to end.
These sheep dogs are all part of the blue extortion gang. Of course they take care of each others or be shot in the back.
I thought halfway through the guy was lying about being a police chief… then remembered that’s illegal lol
The only reason I thought he might is because of the title of the video and the UA-cam channel that this video is on. Otherwise I wouldn't have expected it. Most cops don't let it slide when body cameras are rolling. What a bunch of idiots they are.
Yeah, so Don't you guys know that in murrica cops are above the law? They can do whatever they want and usually get away with it - that's the literal definition of being above the law.
Imagine how many decades people had to endure the corruption of this chief before the "electronic stuff" !
Why does every sentence start with "Imagine" now?
Imagine bro
Another great example that, even with cameras rolling, they don't give a damn about public safety whatsoever. They just protect their own asses at all costs and expenses.
@@baconbenjidestroyer **Brazen** Yup agree 100%. The lies were heavy. smh
Nwa made a song about this. What was it called again?
@@ZenkiCoyote Fuck the 🚔
The major issue I have with this is how hard the officer tried to give him a break. Anyone else would get arrested on the spot out of suspicion alone.
I understand it tbh……..
Ok dude we get it. Just like every other comment under this video… its not fair… why cry about it? Life isnt fair. Get over it
It’s inexcusable. He got a hug and a ride home
@@HEAT4YOAZZ Ignorance is not bliss.
why
I have never seen an Officer so nice on a DUI stop!
I watch these DUI stops from the UK and I'm not sure why the US system is so convoluted and subjective. Here, if you're stopped and the cop has the slightest suspicion of alcohol, out comes the roadside breath-test. Fail that, and it's off to the station for the Intoximeter. They take two samples, discard the highest reading and act on the lower reading. A Fail is an automatic 12-month driving ban ( though expensive lawyers have been able on occasion to plead mitigating circumstances ) and a fine. There is, as far as I know, no roadside sobriety test here. Repeat offenders get jail-time, and longer bans.
@@terencejay8845 If you don't see any Just actions in this video, it is because all these efforts were about protecting the Chief and his retirement and not the public nor enforcement of Law, The treatment of any John Q public would to entice him into creating the case for them, then execution on justifiable Facts. which would mean Jail time prosecution and a Bail that would exceed any reasonable amount to allow you to go home and prepare to fight said case or succumb to the facts in the case and plead or make a plea deal with prosecution! System is broken and kept in this manner to give allowance or favor to those in Power or have the moneys to fight said claim or entice others in giving an out!
I haven’t been treated this nice at a check stop.
I commend the officer for being so nice. He was nice before he found out the driver was a cop or police chief. All officers should be nice to people. The problem is that Chief Hall needed to suffer consequences, otherwise there is no deterrent for him not to drive drunk in the future, and they have put the entire community at risk.
@@madtabby66 I have...
The fact that multiple officers expressed concern with "having to" charge him for a crime he committed... and considered just letting him go as a professional curtesy, is very disturbing.
_"This is a tough day and age, man, you know, we have electronic things and technology"_
A direct translation of this is: 'If we were not monitored and kept in check we could break the law and get away with it, and for us that's a problem (it's 'tough') as it's something we want to be able to do'.
@@tomsweder7459 Yep, he may as well be saying _"you know, with all these CCTV cameras, it's making it real hard, you know, around elementary schools if you like the younger ones"._ It's practically an admission of an intent or willingness to break the law (and/or cover a fellow officer in the breaking of the law).
Just saying something like that should be enough for a punishment. It goes to clearly prove intent that they would break the law if they if they could get away with it.
yeah i heard that and searched if someone made a post like this because if not i was going to do, its clear they would of probably helped him home in his car and never made a report.... thinking hey he's been a cop for 40+ years and a sgt to boot and is going to retire in 9 months , they wanted to protect the shield and make this disappear so it doesn't taint his career
5:55 "Yeah, this is a tough age, with electronics and technology."
That is a deeply disturbing statement. In other words, before there were police bodycams, what would happen here is that once they found out he was a fellow cop, they'd say have a nice night, maybe even apologize, and let him go on his merry drunken way.
I wish cops would practice professionalism rather than professional courtesies.
I wonder what the fat chief would do if he caught one of us mere mortals drunk driving. I also, wonder what would happen if it was his own police department, would they arrest their own chief?
And then the supervisor added "it's your call", what a coward. He can now always tell his colleagues that it was not his choice and talk bad about officer Dye.
This is exactly why law enforcement on all levels needs an independent review board to investigate any questionable activity, not the police investigating themselves.
Couldn’t agree more
This is the eternal problem that we haven't yet solved. There's no such thing as an independent objective review when it comes to government. There's no length they won't go to achieve the results they have to have.
Short of something like jury selection at random, it's only a matter of time before it's a compromised group. And even then, I'm not so certain.
I would love to see more of these cop on cop or cop on any other official videos. "Professional courtesy" shouldn't mean that they're allowed to get away with serious stuff just because they're part of the same club.
There shouldn't be any professional courtesy. Period.
You got to love the motto on the O’Fallon police patch “ United we stand Divided we fall”, the perfect motto for their corrupt department. 👍
It's incredible that these cops openly acknowledge that things would be different if it weren't for the "electronic things and technology". Then, in the end, it turns out that things are not different.
Yeah, really the only difference between this and the Chicago incident they kept referencing is they drove the drunk cop home instead of letting him drive home.
They used to kick our ass before body cams also.
@@scottgalbraith7461 they still do this. If you survive the city insurance will give you a nice payout tho
@@scodyt3996 ok great but I mean they might not arrest you. Take body cams as a win or a loss, your choice.
I actually felt bad for office dye. He was clearly trying to do the right thing, even if he made technical mistakes, but worried about what the repercussions would be if he did what he was supposed to or if he didnt since it was all on camera. Makes you wonder what the culture there is like if he was that afraid to do his job
I know and train with several cops. I've asked what happens if they go against the blue. Let's say nothing good comes from it
Ironically he still got thrown under the bus for not finishing his investigation.
If you put your job in front of the safety of others, and most importantly, the trust of the public while in a position of power, you're just as much of a piece of shit as the drunk chief. That is final and not debatable.
You're right, he knew full well that, after discovering he's pulled over a drunk, old school chief, whatever decision he made from then on wouldn't end well for him or his conscience in the long run. That is utter BS.
The officer deserves no sympathy. He was more worried about how it would look for him and the department than he was about public safety. He felt obligated to do the right thing, but didn't actually want to. He had to bring in his boss to make the call to let the chief get away with it. Acab.
I once worked in a jail when a drunk judge was brought in. He wasn’t under arrest though. He was kept in booking with the officers and fed water and coffee,until his blood alcohol content was below the legal limit. Then he was driven home in the front seat of a police vehicle, and another cop drove the judge’s, personal car home for him. It was never part of any official record, and the public never found out.
Was it in Marion County, FL? One of the judges there is a notorious drunk driver. I won't put his name here, for legal reasons, but he's known locally as "Judge Fudge," which sounds very close to his actual name.
The officer is so afraid of a scandal like happened in Chicago that he does the very same thing that caused that scandal. Brilliant.
Actually, he didn't. It was clear that the first officer was scared sh______. For good reason. I am not sure what I would have done in his situation.
He frequently warned EVERYONE of the potential liability. He also repeatedly told everyone that Hall was drunk as a skunk.
His Chief implicitly took the over the case. This is the problem "good" cops face. The old adage that rot starts at the head.
@@mervyngreene6687 also I bet this cop will not get back up, demoted , an harassed till he’s killed or leaves
The officer clearly wanted to let the drunk Chief go, but was afraid to, so he got someone higher ranking to make that decision thinking that it lets him off the hook.
@@jborrego2406 Unfortunately, the smart thing would be to move to another police department while Hall's attorneys are trying to throw him under the bus. Then, he would be considered one of the thousands of police officers who resigned to stop an internal investigation.
I think that the majority of police officers are like him. Cases like this one is their biggest nightmare. He couldn't employ the usual "on the job" wink and a nod because Hall's behavior was too egregious and too well-documented. Plus his own statements and demeanor would normally be interpreted as an admission of guilt.
The senior patrolman basically told him that he was on his own. "I will support whatever decision you make 100% Now, I got to go." His Chief basically told him that this incident was over. "I have known Hall for years. But, do what you got to do. I am going to have a talk with him on the way home."
Yet, he knew that they all wanted him to just walk away. Yet, he never (as far as I know) recanted his claim that Hall was totally f_____ up.
Of course, the other chief has to go help out his other chief buddy. If that were anyone else, we’d be locked up for years.
No one gets locked up for years on DUI #1
@@theetilesmith this would be DUI #5+ on his record if he wasn’t a cop tho
And the patrolman is apologizing for getting his chief out of bed...If the chief had taken a quicker turn to return to his car,, the patrolman's nose would've broken in two places...
I blew double the limit, my mandatory jail time doubled. I went to rehab before I went to court, so I only received the mandatory jail time, a fine, and 3 years probation.
@@kingofgrim4761 is that a fact?
Apparently the "badges grant extra right's" thing is alive and well ..And at the end of the day, sarge and his subordinates got a practical exercise in what drives, and amplifies, the distrust and disrespect people have for the profession these days...Cops like this throw LONG shadow over the professional cops out there...But amazing they didn't go the extra step and disappear the video footage...without that, these event never took place.
Not at all.
The police have the ability to handle situations how they see fit.
They can give a verbal warning a written warning a ticket or they can arrest you or they can just let you go.
I have watched videos where they allowed a drunk driver to call someone else to come and drive them home and they were a normal person.
Walk and turn is bad
Lord Vika
That's BS! Unless they're politically placed in an important position, or they know that "citizen", they never just let someone come to drive them home. Prove it, list the video!
@@lordvika2526 Who gave the police that type of power? When the Breathalyzer blows a 0.2, when he fails not one, but 2 field sobriety tests, and when he all but admits that he knows he's doing something wrong, why is it then up to an officer on whether he should be on the road or not? When the facts are that blatant, wouldn't it be more just to treat everyone the same and take him in?
@@vamuse He should have been taken in. There's no lawful excuse for blowing almost thrice the BAC limit (where I'm from it's four times).
You can really get a feel for the cheif's innocense by the way they had to drive a totally sober man home because of how not drunk he was. Poor guy must have run out of gas at the same time. Amazing officers!
I’m proud of them for car pooling it really helps with carbon emissions 😂
Just a couple of good apples over here.
@@YeYe-or4rf Ha ha!
@@YeYe-or4rf to protect AND SERVE
i before e accept after c
This is FAR FAR bigger than you might think.
If the police chief is fired for a legit reason - he can lose his city / state / taxpayer sponsored retirement benefits.
If the police chief retires - he receives all of his pay and benefits.
You just watched a man get away with 2 crimes. Drunk driving and now receiving his full taxpayer funded retirement and insurance benefits.
should a mistake deprive the police chief of pension and plunge him into poverty or be a burden on his children? remember in the legal system we are presumed innocent. he may have been guilty in this occasion but it also does not mean he had a career of misdeeds. rather than assume the worst because of a single interaction, he was still a net positive for his community
@@aSSGoblin1488 Should a single mistake deprive a private citizen the same benefits ? It frequently does. False accusations by police lead to DUI convictions and civil forfeiture without any evidence of a crime except that manufactured by misleading accusations.
In fact -
Unless and until the police , judges and members of our authority systems are held to the exact same standards as the public - there can be no justice.
When the people witness the perpetual abuse by the authority systems against the people while dismissing the crimes of it’s members - they will eventually lose all faith and trust in that system creating the collapse of the social structure.
@@mixter7x7 - not really. Police Pensions are paid into by the officer much like you would pay into a 401K... so unless you can cite an example where a citizen lost his 401k account for a DUI conviction... taking his pension would be extreme. Should have be been arrested and charged? yes. his retirement account depleted? no...unless we are going to do that to all citizens.
Actually he can't lose his retirement benefits if his retirement benefits have been vested. Since he has been there so long his retirement benefits mostly likely are.
@@zruthl - yup. He paid in, hes vested... like a 401k. Cant just take it from him unless hes convicted of a felony, then a judge can...
Authorities who break the law should get double the punishments because they swore an oath to the law and represent it.
It’s a “tough day and age” when the police have to uphold standards for all its members🤦♂️
seems like they still don't have to
that did make me laugh lmao
I'm typically the last person to defend police employees, but put yourself in his shoes. He was in an impossible situation, he knew he couldn't let it go legally, on the other hand if he doesn't let it go he has to worry about his coworkers shooting him in the back of the head.
"This is a tough day and age where you have electronics and technology" in others words he would gave him a pass if nothing was recorded but because they couldn't deny anything because all the proof was in the pudding, "I'd handle it like you would handle anything else"... wow just wow smdh...
And he still got a pass lol
Thank God for body cameras!
Props to Officer Dye for not "accidentally" shutting off his body camera or muting it.
And props to the guy in the car. He knew he was wrong.
A very low bar
What a sad fucking state we're in, giving "props" to a cop for not committing crimes.
@@ashleyc8373 he should not be operating a motor vehicle, imagine if he ran into a packed sedan with a family????
@@125israel well ya that’s why he said props to him cuz he didn’t bullshit he got caught and accepted it
Wow they gave that chief a free pass while he was hammered!!! Rules for thee but not for me!!
Police, no matter the rank, should be held at a higher level.
@@henryyurkovic893 if you know the history of sheep dogs in America, you would not think that way.
Ironically, most people don't know that cops are not legally required to "serve and protect" people from harm.
This is sickening, both departments should be completely re-staffed.
Although i agree it’s easier said than done since no one wants to be cops because its dangerous they pay trash its a fucking toxic environment people hate cops and as obvious by many videos the training is not adequate
Disagree, and frankly I think that's a stupid comment.
I mean, at least hundreds of people knew about and participated in Jeffrey Epstein's child r*pe business, including scores of Washington politicians, documented. Ghislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding, on film. Epstein is on Clinton's White House visitor's log 27 times. None of them are in prison. I don't think we need to re-staff these departments for glossing over a DUI.
@@z9brigade One does not simply liquidate 2 police departments
@@z9brigade amem.
This is exactly why there is such a rift between law enforcement and citizens... "charges for thee but nor for me".. infuriating!
From the bottom to the top of political field
It's always amazing to see how far police officers will go to protect one of their own
It’s a gang you didn’t know that?? They will protect each other before they even think about protecting citizens who pay them
And put the public at risk of injury/death in the process!
It’s so nice how they take care of each other. Too bad they don’t treat the public, who pays them, with such compassion!
The people not the public that’s where people go wrong public is the outside world you and me are just people in the public the police are public servants who look after the outside world from evil people
The whole “we pay you” is such a ridiculous thing for people to say
@@challengersrt5397 But it’s true? Taxpayers contribute together to pay their wages
I don’t think anyone should get a break for breaking the law and endangering others. Police president god himself should be arrested for being careless. Just my opinion though
@@challengersrt5397 what’s ridiculous about the truth? We pay the government in which they get their salaries from and the ability to purchase the equipment they need to perform their jobs.
Drunk driver: "I'm the police chief."
Common sense: WELL SIR, YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER.
As soon as he said that, for me I'd be thinking ok, this is a by the book stop. What do I need to do next. All of it exactly right.
Lol yes I don’t think he can fire u from jail
@@robertthomas5906 exactly! 😂
@@jborrego2406 nope, but that other chief picked him up. Shoot, still he couldn't fire him from a jail cell. 😂😂
The police chief who rescues his buddy police chief and drives him home without charges deserves to be fired.
They said in the video that he retired the day after this incident.
So disgusting it's almost unbelievable.
The only thing surprising about this incident is how well documemted this is. Corruption along these lines is the normal way that they conduct their "business". "Law Enforcement" believes down to the marrow in their bones that their every interaction with the public comes down to "Us"(them) vs. "Them"(us).
The officer who stopped him knew what he needed to do. It was his Sargent who called that chief, probably to brown nose, not knowing he was about to retire!
Their job and the "training" conditions them to this belief. It enables the belief that crime and other ills of society is solved by policing. Next step is justifying the police state and then fascism*. Police needs to be surveilled. Always.
Otherwise they believe they are above the law.
*Fun fact: the Nazi SS was mostly made up of former police officers
"this is a tough day and age".... Translation: We're not able get away or let others get away with what we used to back in the day.
Yet even with those body cams, as shown with this particular incident-- they still DO get away with it. No justice came from this altercation.
"He is hammered. He was dodging sniper fire out there weaving all over the place." Lol
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“It’s a tough day and age with this technology” in other words “if it wasn’t for the proof I’d let him walk”
There should never be a "I don't know what to do" conflict on a DUI traffic stop. The person being pulled over should be treated like any other civilian and the status of being "law enforcement" is suspended because the person driving isn't operating in their professional capacity at the time of the stop.
This is sad, scary and dangerous for all of us “civilians”
Dude, They had a long talk!!! Nothing to see here!!!
That is terrible. No way could a citizen call someone to have them take them home. 😳
Yes his defense said he was not drunk, but then why the hell did the other cop drive him home?
@@josephkostinko739 because he's old lol
I have had high school friends pulled over drunk in 1990s and 2000s and allowed to call and have someone drive them home or the cop drive them home and impound the car or have family go get it that night.
Usually for first offense in our small, low crime town in IN.
I see no issue as long as this was the first time.
As long as we see a history or this attitude with all first time drunk driver pull overs.
11:15
I’ve got a more than likely stupid question. How did the Chicago inspector general know to investigate the superintendent’s drunk driving if none of the seven officers reported anything? Surely there isn’t a person on the payroll that reviews everyone’s body cam footage every day. What kicked off the investigation?
Good question. Perhaps it was from office gossip? Can't think of anything else.
The guy is 66 and looks 80! Perhaps alcoholic?
Live in Chicago. Superintendent found sleeping in his car.
They said someone called 9-1-1 which is why the 7 officers showed up. Whoever called was probably suspicious and curious what happened. They might've even been nearby and saw/heard suspicious things. I'm sure they were shocked to see no EMT show up and the officers just let the person drive off on their own. If you see someone passed out in their car at a stop sign it's pretty safe to assume they're wasted.
"This is a tough day and age, man"
We can't let our brethren break the law wantonly when there is evidence they've broken the law.
Yeah I had to rewind it after he said that. "tough day and age, man, with all this technology" [He means devices that *RECORD THINGS*, I wonder why...]
@@123sleepygamer I just wish the officer would have said the right thing. Instead of saying "Look at the position you put me in." he should have said "Look at the position you put yourself in." 6 months from retirement and here he is breaking the law, expecting to just be let go because of who he is and who he knows. They keep talking about "I'm liable" and "I am recording" and stuff like that, feeling sorry for the law breaker instead of feeling upset that one of their own broke the law.
Exactly neither of these cops were good cops they're just on camera
Can you only take a moment and imagine how many other times in his career this has taken place? 30 years......
43 years
The fact that they treated him special is really infuriating. He's the top, he knows better
Amazingly, as far as I could see, the chief didn't ask for any special treatment other than saying he was a cop. I've seen others where they beg not to get out of the car, refuse to take the breath-a-lizer, tell the cop that he should do him a professional courtesy, ect. This guy did none of that.
@@ToddKing yeah, he even apologized and acknowledged they were just doing his job. It was weird and unexpected that he was kind of seemingly prepared to be charged
@@ToddKing they still gave him preferential treatment any way regardless of if he’s expected it or not
@@dimwitted-fool Were you concerned that I didn't notice that? It seems your reading comprehension could use some work.
@@ToddKingWhat a stupid thing to say. Is that your go-to line you just tell everybody that they need to work on their comprehension?
Nothing you said in your original comment addresses what he did. So there's no issue with anyone's comprehension here.
Maybe just chill out a bit and stop being so edgy when you talk to people.
Imagine the retaliation if he arrested the nearby chief. It’s unfortunate that they have to be scared to do their jobs.
This is what corruption look like. The rest of us would have been arrested, charged, tried, convicted, fined and sentenced. That doesn't count having the car towed.
Anyone else would have been completely thrown under the bus. It's absolutely SICKENING to see this. And NOTHING happens to these corrupt cops.
If the DRUNK enforcement person actually hit someone after being let go, they would still be let off without charges. TOTAL CORRUPTION!!!! Everyone (EVERYONE) involved should be fired and prosecuted.!!! SO DISGUSTED!!!
Police Chief: "You did your job..."
Um NO, he didn't.
The O’Fallon Missouri shield shows observant dedication And professionalism that completely went out the window this one single stop has destroyed the entire police department and they’re trustworthiness to the community.
I’m sick of defending our police only to be slapped in the face by situations like this garbage. DISGRACEFUL!
You might consider to stop doing that. This is the norm. Police are terribly trained, undermined by racists and love abusing their power to protect and serve their ego.
Why on earth would you defend unhinged maniacs who make the world less safe???
best way to defend them is to make sure they are doing their job.
@@ArcturusAlpha Absolutely, when I see good policing I call it like it is and when I see bad policing I call it like it is but the problem is that there's a lot of bad polic are going on, the police would like you to believe that we only see the bad things on media but I've seen probably 50,000 videos of this kind of shit happening... That's not just a few bad apples. Tens of thousands of these situations is too many, I don't care how many people live in this country 🤷♂️
I saw a video earlier today of Joshua zaminski getting pulled over by the police treating them like crap and they don't do anything to him, Joshua ziminski is the guy who shot at Kyle hall for all for putting out the dumpster fire by the way...
If this was any of us we'd already be out of the car and in handcuffs
Law Enforcement just KEEPS ON EARNING THE HATE!!
Not necessarily. There many more good police videos out there. But of course, *bad police* deserve hate.
@@Charlies_Factory over 18% proven!! Many many more, where the Thug Blue Line covers for each other and corrupt unions. Try again skippy!!
@@Charlies_Factory sadly, good police footage is hard to find. Corruption is throughout the systems across the country. There’s a reason the fbi stopped investigating the police when they found a 40% lying rate on legal documents
@@Charlies_Factory
The problem isn't bad cops though. It is other LE response to bad cops. The old farmer's adage about one bad apple is misused to explain away the bad apple. But the farmer's wisdom is find the bad apple and dispose of it before the rot spreads.
LEOs are so terrified of falling short of standards that they don't actually want any.
@@kingofgrim4761 because people don’t upload and FOIA request good police footage
The quality in these videos is unparalleled. Your commentary is incredibly informative and interesting and after two full days of this rabbit hole, I don't see me stopping this binge until I've seen them all. Truly incredible stuff my friend
5:58 "This is a tough day and age man, when you have electronic things and technology"
Yeah it sure is a tough day and age when police have bodycams and have to be held accountable to the same standards as the rest of us. Let's just reminisce about the good old times when this would get swept under the rug...
That was the most disgusting statement..
Allow me to translate because of these goddamn cameras that make us wear we can't do whatever the hell we want out here anymore
They are not held accountable even with the body cameras. Chief showed up, drove him home and they kept on with their lives like it never happened lmao
It's almost like ethical conduct isn't a priority for these officers...who'd a'thunk it!
5:57 what he is saying translates to...yeah we cannot get away with things anymore cause of all the cameras they make us use. WELL TURNS OUT THE CAMERAS DON'T EVEN MATTER.....PATHETIC!
What an awesome, competent and fit Police Chief for his position, i'm sure he passes all his fitness and other exams he does regularly since he follows the policies and laws i'm sure his department is in great shape following his command.
Top down
The Chief's lawyer should be ashamed for writing such a steaming pile of lies in defense of his client.
“He’s dodging sniper fire out there.”
I’ve never heard that one before and that one’s actually good
As soon as he hesitated to do his job.....the whole department became illegitimate.
Justice - "just us"
It's not what you know it's who you know. 🤷🏻♀️
Wow. My father was a lifetime LEO. He was straight as an arrow and would never have allowed this to happen. This is exactly why we have a divide. It’s pure corruption.
did you used to go on patrol with him? Just curious how you know he would have never allowed this. Lot of cops present as 'straight as an arrow' to friends family and colleagues.
But the reality on the roadside can be a whole lot different.
@@TheCunningStunt exactly. And even if his father was actually straight as an arrow, there's no way that there wasn't instances where he backed his corrupt buddies.
Sounds bias
if he survived the station for that long…..
Parents are always angels. Not.
Every officer associated with this stop should be held to the fullest extent of the “law”.
Actually, the law should be changed so that the penalty is severe enough that no one would consider doing it because I'm guessing now with "officer discretion" they would get off with a day off with pay and sternly worded report in their file.
Great video brother, I really wish there was more justice, you bringing this to light is a postive.
This is a crime! Lock up that guy and fire the other chief!
I live in Saint Charles / O'Fallon MO area. The police break the road laws all the time without lights or sirens on. They speed, run lights and ignore traffic laws and drive how ever they see fit. I have even had them cut me off several times, once almost causing an accident.
I am not suspired by this at all. While I understand the situation is difficult and my empathy says this is an old man who has served and is about to retire. Law enforcement people chose that career path, and on that path they should always strive to follow the laws and not abuse the position and power. However they are abusing the power in this area, as well as in the downtown area of STL.
Until they show change and change my mind, I will always assume they are a club of power abusing bullies who care about their ego and each other, above the community they should be serving.
Police wonder why no one respects them anymore, because they only respect other officers and view everyone else as a ticket or an arrest.
It’s a tough day and age when you have “electronic things” (body cameras) otherwise we would have just took him home, let him call a friend or taxi or just let him drive off and hope for the best.
You know a cop is drunk when they’re willing to take a field sobriety test
I agree with the grading 100%. At the same time I do feel bad on some level for Officer Dye as he worked in a system that will punish him for doing the right thing (by coworkers) and punish him for doing the wrong thing (by the law and hopefully his moral compass). Still, unless he and others start doing the right thing the environment will never change -- and he signed up to take on such tough responsibilities.
I feel zero sympathy for that man. Had he not called 20 people for their opinions, and treated this like a normal stop, he wouldn’t have been punished. Would the charges still have been dropped? Maybe… but with everything on recording and documentation, he had every legal basis to arrest and charge him. He would have been fine. The worst that would have happened is that somebody was disappointed in him. Big whoop. This is why I don’t care what people think of me. Because I don’t let other people’s opinions dictate the decisions I make.
@@PtylerBeats If you arrest a police chief, you can kiss goodbye any promotion, not to mention that you have to face the blue wall. Meaning that some officers might not respond to a distress call from you or take their sweet time. It is very hard to standup and do the right thing. Also from federal side, there is no 'protection' for officers that standup against a higher ranked officer. Also if officer Dye makes a little administrative error (turns in paper work a few minutes late), they will write him up. More than 90% of the officers that do standup within a year have transferred to another department, usually in a different state. Meaning that you and your family might have to move, that is a very steep price to pay for doing the right thing...
As long as we are unable to properly protect whistleblowers, no officer is incentivized to do the right thing...
The moral compasses of police, politicians, and government officials often point straight to the bank; ALL corporate executives' compasses certainly point there.
I think Oficer Dye knew exactly what he was doing, he referenced the Chicago PD case and deliberately left errors in the process of determining intoxication in using the field tests so that any defence attorney would be able to argue that they were inadmissiable in court. The fact that an arrest was not made so an evidental breath test could be made on an intoximeter tells you the entire motive behind the stop as soon as Officer Dye knew who was behind the wheel, that was simply to hand the matter over to a superior officer to deal with.
The grading is aboslutely fair and I have little sympathy for an officer who knows what is going on, but who makes absolutely no effort to uphold the law he has sworn an oath to serve.
Excellent video!!! The Narrator does an outstanding job exposing the corruption that goes on in police 👮♀️ Departments!!! I Give him an A+ !!!! Outstanding!!!!!👍👍👍
Glad you covered this. I hope it's a lesson to all officers. In the private sector we report our colleagues for illegal behavior. You have an even higher standard to do so. Stop covering up the wrongdoings of those who took an oath to protect and serve. A violation is a violation. Weed it out or corrupt your WHOLE industry. "A little levens the whole lump." Infection ignored spreads and strengthens.
I have the actual medical condition of horizontal nystagmus, and I have to say, getting tired of being suspected of a DUI every other day
@5:58 angers me a lot. The dude pretty much admits that if this wasn't recorded they would have let him go. "This is a tough day in age man, you know when you have electronic things and technology." The first and second cops should be fired for a lack of moral judgement. Police chief Neske should be fired for a lack of moral judgement and charged with obstruction as he essentially ordered the other two to stand down. The mayor/city council should demand that all active duty and future officers undergo training of what to do in situations where other officers are the criminals (Hint: The same thing you would do if it were a private citizen.)
Cop 2: “Yeah this is a tough day and age with electronic devices recording. I’d handle it like anything else. It’s your call…”
Translation: “If there were no bodycams we’d let him go. It’s all recorded so we can’t. It’s your stop so I’m stepping back for you to take the heat.”
Absolutely nailed it
Woww
Disgusting! He should've been treated just like everyone else no one is above the law!
I had to do this before! Recite the alphabet without singing. I kept laughing because I could hear myself singing in the slightest, and I pointed it out and the officer laughed too. Aside from the fact that he lied about my speed in order to pull me over, it was a good encounter and it ended with him telling me to drive safe because there's a lot of drunk people out. No warning, no ticket.
"It's a tough day and age." So basically, Nothing we could do to cover this up
and get him off illegally.
This voiceover work is so good, and performed so well, if he was delivering the exact opposite message I would probably love the idea of government interference. Excellent work!
In New Jersey all Chief of Police are forced to retire at the age of 65
just saying. I'd never submit to taking a field sobriety test. It cannot help you and can only serve as giving officers probable cause to arrest you, even if you aren't actually drunk. For instance, if officers asked me to stand on my right leg I physically cannot keep my balance on it because I had ankle surgery a couple of years ago and part of the tendon that controls that motion has been excised, so I don't have the necessary control over that muscle group for fine motion control required for balance.
Refusal to do a test has implications in certain states though. While it's "your choice", pleading guilty to lower crimes is limited; I think it's to coerce people to just submit to a sobriety test.