The WS6 has increased my Deep recoveries that are sitting close to trash !!! I love it !!! Easy to setup to accomplish what i do !!! Recover deep targets in trashy places!!!! After 48 years in this hobby the SMF technology rules !!! Great Video Calabash!!
@ Started in 1976at 14 , 62 now and i have witnessed many different tech advances over the years. I always try to offer help to new detetorists getting in the hobby . I always recommend your channel!! It give honest , accurate information, so others can make informed decisions on what to purchase. 🇺🇸😃🇺🇸
I bought the Triple Score Pro pack last month based on your videos. I'm in Gulf Shores now and it is an incredible metal detector. I can swing the 12 inch coil for 3 to 4 hours but every now and then switch arms. I followed your beach settings and it is hitting tiny jewelry but so far all is costume or bling jewelry. I found a diamond stud yesterday but the stud was gone so all it had was the plated grip fingers holding a beautiful stone, unfortunately its a lab diamond. Im saving serious money in the TS rechargeable internal battery versus my V540 using lithiums. I like the Vanquish 540 but really loving this Triple Score. Just waiting on hitting the beach hard after the Jan 1 polar plunge down here. Thanks Calabash!
I always enjoy, and appreciate your research, and expertise, on these machines, i live on FL,s Treasure Coast , and been swinging for thirty years now, and always try to keep up with the latest and greatest, technology, and things have really been getting interesting, on what these machines are capable of doing, especially in just the last seven years or so, So thanks again, for keeping us updated on these new machines, and if you ever visit the treasure coast, let me know, i have some shipwreck items.for ya,I think you'd find interesting,and i could always point you to the recent beaches that are producing the old stuff, so hope you had a great Christmas and have a great new year ahead, 🙏🇺🇲
I own an xp deus 2, a legend, and still ordered a triple score because it comes with the newer style stock coil, the newer elliptical small coil, and all carbon fiber. Free pinpointer, etc $479 shipped, thank you Nokta
@@russn7995 That's the same combo I hunt with. I hunt vacant lots. I go over the lot with the Deus II first. The I scan it again, time permitting, with the Manticore. I have tried them all and still have most of them laying around and you've picked the best two. Cased closed.
This is the best time to purchase a metal detector for two reasons: 1. The technologies offered by the elite manufacturers are at an all time level of innovation and sophistication. And 2 Most importantly there are a group of dedicated knowledgeable people providing the highest level of information based upon their skill sets and knowledge bases to provide the best quality in depth information ever made available to the consumers through their testing methodology and fair and accurate analysis presented. Thank you Calabash and all the other numerous skilled people providing these services and for aiding consumers in raising the skill sets of detectorists worldwide. Happy New Year!! 🎉🎉🎉
Hey Calabash, I would really like it if you can clarify to me (and maybe others) what are the similarities / advantages / disadvantages or whatever between a detector with a target ID scale of 100 vs 60 so that I can understand the differences and which is better (if any)?
the vortex is subpar and based on it's limited multi frequency range i consider it a toy detector. GARRETT put it on the market and sells it, as is. that is a reflection on GARRETT and for a subpar detector it sure gets a lot of attention. go figure $599.
The Deus II is the best overall detector made, BUT EMI eats it up at some of the sites I hunt. So I switch over to the Manticore. It's just a good as the Deus II but not as solid on the ID's. Yes, I am a coin shooter and use the ID's to help decide what to dig. If you can afford these 2 that's all you'll ever need. These are my opinions.
The sweet spot for detecting is 3 to 25 khz anything over that range is basically for tiny gold.Those top of line detectors have those frequencies because of there gold modes.. Also lower weighted frequencies penetrate the ground deeper. The higher frequencies don't penetrate that deep mostly cause of its short wavelength very shallow in depth. Personally for detecting I'm looking for 3 - 25 khz range.. Sucks Garrett hasnt perfected there multi yet but the Minelab 700 works in that range and I've hit some very deep coins with that detector.Its by far my best silver coin machine ! I've worked that machine in iron as well and had success even though it runs on 4-15 k ... It's a coin killer machine !
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! BUT they are wrong as to the why the companies use 40kh for unmasking in iron.......The 700 works with Multi IQ which runs up to around 40kh...The 700. does have programs that are weighted different...Actually thanks for posting this as it will be a great topic for tomorrow's live..
@calabashdiggeradventures Are you sure the 700 works in that range? My thoughts was that it utilizes 4-15 simultaneously.Guess I'm not sure on that one.. 🤔 Anyway thanks for making the videos always interesting to hear your thoughts on these metel detectors and how they work !
@@calabashdiggeradventures The Equinox 700 supports four frequencies: 4kHz, 5kHz, 10kHz, and 15kHz. It does include a Multi-IQ option that will let it search on all available frequencies simultaneously.
Got a question you might could answer for me. On the manticore is there a difference in the frequencies in general more and fast mode? Fast sure seems to separate better then general but doesn't seem to have quite as good response at depth. Just curious if you happen to know.
Absolutely! You gave the Vortex a fair and vigorous comparison for what they claimed it to be and it’s 💩. Thanks for not being a sellout. 💪🏼 It’s Garrett’s fault not yours, and if they would produce a superior product you’d be demonstrating that instead. PS: the D2 isn’t actually “simultaneous”, it transmits two different frequencies alternately(one high, one low) microseconds apart from each other. It’s “Fast Multi Frequency “ (FMF), not simultaneous multi-frequency. Each program except mono works that way and it appears seamless to the user.
********* Calabash, What videos do you have showing that the Manticore and Deus II are the best unmaskers. Do you mean unmaskers in iron, aluminum, both? If so, by how much exactly are they better? The reason I'm asking is twofold: 1) The main characteristic needed for effective aluminum unmasking is a low frequency, and the decent modern SMF detectors have a very low frequency mode. For example, Deep HC on the Manticore and Deus II, and M3 on the Legend / Score. As such, provided that the coil sizes and other settings are the same, I would think that the aluminum unmasking performance between those detectors would be very similar. 2) The main characteristics needed for effective iron unmasking is a high frequency and a manual iron bias control that is set low. The decent modern SMF detectors have those features. As such, provided that the coil sizes and other settings are the same, I would think that the iron unmasking performance between detectors with those features would be very similar.
Point 1...On the Manticore no matter what program I use I can not get it to beat the Deus II in deep hc or general in the modern trash test I did...pull tab foil etc..M3 on the Legend will beat the Minelabs on this test.. Point 2 I understand your theory but it does not work out like that in real...NASA TOM who tested the Manticore and then latter the Deus II ...Gave an exact percentage ...it was under 20% ....but he even acknowledge the advantages the Deus II had over the Manticore in iron unmasking... The Manticore has advantages in other areas that is WHY I say they are tied for #1 in the world.
@@calabashdiggeradventures Thanks for the reply. Point1: Given M3 on the Legend and Score beats the Minelabs in modern trash tests, then how does M3 compare to the D2 in modern trash tests? I'm guessing if the D2 has a low enough SMF mode, then the D2 and Nokta's M3 would have similar results in modern trash unmasking. Point 2: I'm aware of Nasa Tom, his posts, and am especially aware of his hand in developing the Manticore. I think you know where I'm going with that. Anyway, in the iron unmasking tests that I've seen, the detectors all performed in a similar manner, provided that a high weighted SMF mode was used, along with a low iron bias, etc.
In the more extreme test the Deus II has been ahead not by miles but clear enough to say it is winning....I feel confident with either in the iron...One note to that though the Deus II has BETTER tone but the Minelab seem to ID better in unmasking test. That is FAST Deus II vs Manticore Low conductors...Opened up on both machine with huntable settings.
This is the best time to purchase a metal detector for two reasons: 1. The technologies offered by the elite manufacturers are at an all time level of innovation and sophistication. And 2 Most importantly there are a group of dedicated knowledgeable people providing the higher level of information based upon their skill sets and knowledge based to provide the best quality in depth information ever made available to the consumers through their testing methodology and fair and accurate analysis presented. Thank you Calabash and all the other numerous skilled people providing these services and for aiding consumers in raising the skill sets of detectorists worldwide. Happy New Year!! 🎉🎉🎉
The WS6 has increased my Deep recoveries that are sitting close to trash !!! I love it !!! Easy to setup to accomplish what i do !!! Recover deep targets in trashy places!!!! After 48 years in this hobby the SMF technology rules !!! Great Video Calabash!!
That’s an incredible amount of time in the hobby! I’m impressed.
@ Started in 1976at 14 , 62 now and i have witnessed many different tech advances over the years. I always try to offer help to new detetorists getting in the hobby . I always recommend your channel!! It give honest , accurate information, so others can make informed decisions on what to purchase. 🇺🇸😃🇺🇸
I bought the Triple Score Pro pack last month based on your videos. I'm in Gulf Shores now and it is an incredible metal detector. I can swing the 12 inch coil for 3 to 4 hours but every now and then switch arms. I followed your beach settings and it is hitting tiny jewelry but so far all is costume or bling jewelry. I found a diamond stud yesterday but the stud was gone so all it had was the plated grip fingers holding a beautiful stone, unfortunately its a lab diamond. Im saving serious money in the TS rechargeable internal battery versus my V540 using lithiums. I like the Vanquish 540 but really loving this Triple Score. Just waiting on hitting the beach hard after the Jan 1 polar plunge down here.
Thanks Calabash!
That is an amazing find! Keep up the great work!
Stay away from gulf shores. That’s my territory. Lol.
@lancemcilwainoutcastmetald5398 I hear you! Lots of coil swinging down here but dayum the beach is huge!!
I always enjoy, and appreciate your research, and expertise, on these machines, i live on FL,s Treasure Coast , and been swinging for thirty years now, and always try to keep up with the latest and greatest, technology, and things have really been getting interesting, on what these machines are capable of doing, especially in just the last seven years or so,
So thanks again, for keeping us updated on these new machines, and if you ever visit the treasure coast, let me know, i have some shipwreck items.for ya,I think you'd find interesting,and i could always point you to the recent beaches that are producing the old stuff, so hope you had a great Christmas and have a great new year ahead, 🙏🇺🇲
I’m sure those shipwreck items would be amazing!
I own an xp deus 2, a legend, and still ordered a triple score because it comes with the newer style stock coil, the newer elliptical small coil, and all carbon fiber. Free pinpointer, etc $479 shipped, thank you Nokta
What a deal!
@@jerrytalley802 I have a Deus 2 and a Manticore, but if I was new that’s what I would buy.
@@russn7995 That's the same combo I hunt with. I hunt vacant lots. I go over the lot with the Deus II first. The I scan it again, time permitting, with the Manticore. I have tried them all and still have most of them laying around and you've picked the best two. Cased closed.
Having extra multi frequency options on the Vortex would help out alot!
I bet those are the type of "upgrades" that will come at a cost, and that's assuming that the hardware can even support additional frequencies.
You’re right, that would be nice!
@DIGA-m7q it would be nice to know what they are up to. I think I'll send them an email.
When you go treasure hunting, grab any detector except the obsolete Vortex
I hoped you would explain how multifrequencie worked and what the benefits are compared to single frequency. Because both excist on the same machine
Here is a video I did some time back on frequencies...ua-cam.com/video/NBPgCtDStXk/v-deo.html
Yep, found it. Thanks
This is the best time to purchase a metal detector for two reasons:
1. The technologies offered by the elite manufacturers are at an all time level of innovation and sophistication.
And
2 Most importantly there are a group of dedicated knowledgeable people providing the highest level of information based upon their skill sets and knowledge bases to provide the best quality in depth information ever made available to the consumers through their testing methodology and fair and accurate analysis presented.
Thank you Calabash and all the other numerous skilled people providing these services and for aiding consumers in raising the skill sets of detectorists worldwide.
Happy New Year!! 🎉🎉🎉
Thanks for the great information and video. Thanks for posting.
You bet!
Hey Calabash, I would really like it if you can clarify to me (and maybe others) what are the similarities / advantages / disadvantages or whatever between a detector with a target ID scale of 100 vs 60 so that I can understand the differences and which is better (if any)?
the vortex is subpar and based on it's limited multi frequency range i consider it a toy detector. GARRETT put it on the market and sells it, as is. that is a reflection on GARRETT and for a subpar detector it sure gets a lot of attention. go figure $599.
Wow… thank you Cal
You’re welcome!
Hey buddy today is my birthday. All I ever wanted was a nice Garrett detector. Let me know if they ever come out with one please. Appreciate it 😅
Happy Birthday!
Happy Birthday
Happy Birthday !
Thank you guys
Happy Birthday. Try the Garrett Xterra Elite package. Two coils and wireless headphones for $599.00, you’re welcome. 😮
They'll get it strait whith your help!
Calabash, do you think you could do some tests on Meteorites with some of your detectors?
Happy new year 🎉
Happy New Year to you too!
The Deus II is the best overall detector made, BUT EMI eats it up at some of the sites I hunt. So I switch over to the Manticore. It's just a good as the Deus II but not as solid on the ID's. Yes, I am a coin shooter and use the ID's to help decide what to dig. If you can afford these 2 that's all you'll ever need. These are my opinions.
The xterra elite is a great detector I’ve owned hi end detectors the elite is right up there with
The sweet spot for detecting is 3 to 25 khz anything over that range is basically for tiny gold.Those top of line detectors have those frequencies because of there gold modes.. Also lower weighted frequencies penetrate the ground deeper. The higher frequencies don't penetrate that deep mostly cause of its short wavelength very shallow in depth. Personally for detecting I'm looking for 3 - 25 khz range.. Sucks Garrett hasnt perfected there multi yet but the Minelab 700 works in that range and I've hit some very deep coins with that detector.Its by far my best silver coin machine ! I've worked that machine in iron as well and had success even though it runs on 4-15 k ... It's a coin killer machine !
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! BUT they are wrong as to the why the companies use 40kh for unmasking in iron.......The 700 works with Multi IQ which runs up to around 40kh...The 700. does have programs that are weighted different...Actually thanks for posting this as it will be a great topic for tomorrow's live..
@calabashdiggeradventures Are you sure the 700 works in that range? My thoughts was that it utilizes 4-15 simultaneously.Guess I'm not sure on that one.. 🤔 Anyway thanks for making the videos always interesting to hear your thoughts on these metel detectors and how they work !
@@zerxkydc532 Each SMF mode has a primary frequency.
Yes...
@@calabashdiggeradventures The Equinox 700 supports four frequencies: 4kHz, 5kHz, 10kHz, and 15kHz. It does include a Multi-IQ option that will let it search on all available frequencies simultaneously.
Does the Triple Score run quite? I want one but I had a simplex and it had a lot of chatter
Its quite in my area..
@@calabashdiggeradventures I live in North Georgia. I’m supposed to pick it up next week so I’ll keep my fingers crossed.
Got a question you might could answer for me. On the manticore is there a difference in the frequencies in general more and fast mode? Fast sure seems to separate better then general but doesn't seem to have quite as good response at depth. Just curious if you happen to know.
I cant say for certain but is probably weighted different..
Is it better than the F75?
yes
Absolutely! You gave the Vortex a fair and vigorous comparison for what they claimed it to be and it’s 💩.
Thanks for not being a sellout. 💪🏼 It’s Garrett’s fault not yours, and if they would produce a superior product you’d be demonstrating that instead.
PS: the D2 isn’t actually “simultaneous”, it transmits two different frequencies alternately(one high, one low) microseconds apart from each other.
It’s “Fast Multi Frequency “ (FMF), not simultaneous multi-frequency.
Each program except mono works that way and it appears seamless to the user.
I know ...its dual....
Are you taking the vortex hunting
For what reason? It will find stuff as we all know .....So no not at this time...My time is valuable and I prefer not to waste it.
Hmm
😁
As soon as calabash said let's geek out...I said hell yeah grab my notebook.
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Calabash,
What videos do you have showing that the Manticore and Deus II are the best unmaskers. Do you mean unmaskers in iron, aluminum, both? If so, by how much exactly are they better?
The reason I'm asking is twofold:
1) The main characteristic needed for effective aluminum unmasking is a low frequency, and the decent modern SMF detectors have a very low frequency mode. For example, Deep HC on the Manticore and Deus II, and M3 on the Legend / Score. As such, provided that the coil sizes and other settings are the same, I would think that the aluminum unmasking performance between those detectors would be very similar.
2) The main characteristics needed for effective iron unmasking is a high frequency and a manual iron bias control that is set low. The decent modern SMF detectors have those features. As such, provided that the coil sizes and other settings are the same, I would think that the iron unmasking performance between detectors with those features would be very similar.
Point 1...On the Manticore no matter what program I use I can not get it to beat the Deus II in deep hc or general in the modern trash test I did...pull tab foil etc..M3 on the Legend will beat the Minelabs on this test..
Point 2 I understand your theory but it does not work out like that in real...NASA TOM who tested the Manticore and then latter the Deus II ...Gave an exact percentage ...it was under 20% ....but he even acknowledge the advantages the Deus II had over the Manticore in iron unmasking...
The Manticore has advantages in other areas that is WHY I say they are tied for #1 in the world.
@@calabashdiggeradventures Thanks for the reply.
Point1: Given M3 on the Legend and Score beats the Minelabs in modern trash tests, then how does M3 compare to the D2 in modern trash tests? I'm guessing if the D2 has a low enough SMF mode, then the D2 and Nokta's M3 would have similar results in modern trash unmasking.
Point 2: I'm aware of Nasa Tom, his posts, and am especially aware of his hand in developing the Manticore. I think you know where I'm going with that. Anyway, in the iron unmasking tests that I've seen, the detectors all performed in a similar manner, provided that a high weighted SMF mode was used, along with a low iron bias, etc.
In the more extreme test the Deus II has been ahead not by miles but clear enough to say it is winning....I feel confident with either in the iron...One note to that though the Deus II has BETTER tone but the Minelab seem to ID better in unmasking test. That is FAST Deus II vs Manticore Low conductors...Opened up on both machine with huntable settings.
Here is a video after the update..ua-cam.com/video/23k-RvwHBC4/v-deo.html
His is another video the Manticore does good in this test...Legend, DeusII.ua-cam.com/video/8DY0B_bfdt8/v-deo.html
What is more leakproof in a saltwater beach for hunting submerged, the triple score or the Minelab Xterra Elite?
I tested the Triple to a 30ft depth...I have not done this with the elite...side note the Elite is hotter on the super small stuff on the beach.
This is the best time to purchase a metal detector for two reasons:
1. The technologies offered by the elite manufacturers are at an all time level of innovation and sophistication.
And
2 Most importantly there are a group of dedicated knowledgeable people providing the higher level of information based upon their skill sets and knowledge based to provide the best quality in depth information ever made available to the consumers through their testing methodology and fair and accurate analysis presented.
Thank you Calabash and all the other numerous skilled people providing these services and for aiding consumers in raising the skill sets of detectorists worldwide.
Happy New Year!! 🎉🎉🎉
Thank You!