Why Won't My Outboard Turn Over? Starting Issue?
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Would appreciate a review of checking gas tank and hoses to and from tank - have a 2004 boat and have done a check on my own although never sure of all the best steps to do it. Thanks and really enjoy these videos!
Here's a video on how to pressure test the tank at least :)
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Here's a video on Outboard Engine Brackets, your specs and performance will vary, depending on the boat and engine set up, but this will give you some more info :)
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Everything marine VHF: radio selection, setup, channel guidance, do’s and don’ts, operation etiquette, care, etc?
How to use / what does the “winky blinky” do
Man every time I watch your videos I’m impressed by how informative they are. Now I just need to buy a boat.
Lol that was a good one
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So after watching numerous videos of yours, I was confident that my brothers Merc outboard was not starting due to a repairable issue. We found that the stater was bad. In Northern Minnesota parts are hard to find right away, but the local Marine Store had one that fit. We replaced it and fished the rest of the week, trouble free! Thank you so much for doing what you do!!
God Bless.
Thanks for the visit!
I had just this sort of problem on my little boat and by using yours (and 1 other) youtubers channels I fixed it all my self. Turned out to be a solenoid problem. Did the job my self and saved a tonne of cash. Plus now I know how to diagnose a problem if I'm out at sea.
2 past issues:
1 - out this weekend - ran fine on the muffs, ran leaving the dock and around the no-wake, then suddenly quit. Starter worked fine but no start (plenty of fuel)...nice fisherman suggested the primer bulb (ta-da). Wasn't expecting on 225 opti
2 - past summer, idling to the dock, knocked the kill switch stopped the motor. Tried a restart, nothing. Looked to be in neutral but was close, not there...prevented the restart
Thanks for the great videos!
6:49 went out today and used main motor for about 1/2 hour. Fished for 4 hours using bow mount. Time to go, main wouldn’t turn over. Got home, starter Ben fix kicks and engages but won’t spin flywheel. Can turn flywheel by hand. 2020 Mercury CT 115 with less than 100 hours stored inside.
Just had that problem with one of my boats this weekend. The starter was busted. Tried to hot wire the starter but it was dead. The problem is that the starter is almost as expensive as the worth of the boat. So i just sold it as a project boat to another guy that going to strip it down an overhaul it. Thanks for a good video yet again.
Not an outboard, but I had my fair share of starting issues on my old wakeboarding boat. First time out a wire on the neutral safety switch (which is mounted on top of the transmission under the ballast pumps and electronics -_-) finally corroded off. Found out after we stopped to enjoy a Pub sub at the sandbar. Used a wrench and a rag to jump the starter and get us back underway to the ramp.
Second time on that boat ended up being a long drawn out ignition coil failure. I was chasing down issues with the motor falling on its face when giving it throttle (thinking it had to be fuel delivery and all the electronic sensors were just lying to me, I can be stubborn I guess lol), and a mid summer day I guess the ignition coil just got too hot while diagnosing and wouldn't even provide enough spark to start or idle.
Ahhh, the joys of boating :)
Well I have to be honest anchored up bottom fishing got ready to go in for the day turned the key and nothing keep in mind brand new Yamaha 115 sho well maybe 50 hours took me about 10 min of checking batteries and cable connections and noticed the binacle had been just barley pushed into gear yup🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁 it’s usually something simple once again thanks for the great you tube channel you guys have
I would like to add one more piece to this puzzle, The gear shifter, ive had to troubleshoot more than a dozen nuetral safety switches, or just plane in gear select levers.
Thanks, hope it helps! Stay blessed!!
#OTC that would be a great tool that I don’t have yet. As for your video, I had an 1970 115 Evenrude, great motor once it was started but always having to mess with the starter. Would never head out without a screwdriver for jumping and a hammer for tapping. No matter how many times I replaced it or shimmed it there was always a problem. But I did love it once it was running. Plus it was my first boat. 1960 19’ Stamas. Good solid boat. Thumbs up Arron.
Oh man have I had this issue over the years! It’s good to learn the order of the tests that should be done to try and quickly diagnose the problem. Good video! #OTC
If you don’t have a load tester , note the voltage at the battery , the battery while cranking or load test , and the voltage at the starter while cranking , good charged battery should not drop more than two volts , a proper size cable in good shape should have less than a voltage drop of more than one volt
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I was out on a bass boat that wasn’t mine about 10 years ago, and the thing started up just fine when I launched it, but after sitting anchored for several hours the starter just clicked when I was ready to leave. Luckily the starting and trolling batteries were all in like side by side. So I took the jumpers off the trolling batteries and wired all 4 to the starter. It worked and I got off the water. First stop on the way home was to pick up a all new batteries. They were like 7 years old. Not my boat, but I just can’t return something like that knowing it’s gonna leave the owner stranded.
#OTC Tapping on the starter is one of the first things I can remember doing as a kid to help my dad.
#OTC Bad key switch and cables. Jumped ignition with 12 volt lead to the coil and battery. Then I was able to clean the terminals on the starter and jump that with a screwdriver. I made it back home safely and finished the repair with a new ignition switch and all new cables. 👍🏻
#OTC I need that load tester I was going to buy one this weekend. The screwdriver on the starter brings back memory’s. When I was 17 I had an old Chevy Vega that I had to start by jumping it with a screwdriver or park on a hill for an entire summer.
#OTC I’ve had fuel problems, battery problems, and some temperature issues due water pump. All were repaired with good planning and patience! Great video with great information!
#otc. My bendix wouldn’t pop up to engage the flywheel at the inlet on Christmas Day, but I could still hear it spinning. I took the cowling off, pried up on it with the same wrench I use to put the boat plug in... while at the same time my brother held the key in the start position. Luckily the motor had already been running quite a bit that day and didn’t take many revolutions to start up.
#OTC Just bought our first outboard. 77 Mercury 115 HP and have been watching episodes to be proactive! THANKS for the posts!
Had an intermittent no crank on my 1971 mercury 500, when I rebuilt it last season, I noticed the wiring harness was very rotten, ever since I put a new CDI harness on it, she’s never failed to start. #otc
#otc I had a no-start situation because my bulge pump failed and ran my batteries down. It took me a bit to troubleshoot it and your video really hit on some key areas we often overlook!
Love your channel and videos. Wish you the best . Thanks for the knowledge
#OTC I have not had starter problems yet, but a lot of auto mechanics crosses over to boat maintenance. Thanks
You always have good tech and troubleshooting info. Keep it up.
Problem with my boat? Litterally up the creek without a (decent) paddle. Father in law's recently purchased used trihull and we had worked out some issues and and decided it was ready to go fishing. We drove across the lake and up the river until it was a creek and then forked.....not enough water to go further so we dropped anchor and caught our limits of Trout. Time to head home and there were those darned CRICKETS when the key was turned.
As I won't go on the water without a tool kit (and with the newly purchased boat a BIG tool kit) I was prepared. Problem ended up being the wiring to the starter solenoid so it was easy to jumper it and get us back to the dock.
Thankfully I'm an auto and aircraft mechanic with decades of troubleshooting experience and knew right where to start and what to look for even without a manual.
No issues yet but I'll keep watching adding to my memory banks! Thanks!
I love Tech Tuesday! I am restoring a 60 year old fiberglass boat just for fun! Great tips to help me put the whole package together! #OTC
Great video mate. Once I had corrosion on the battery terminals but nothing major just a clean and ready it started. #OTC
On my previous boat I was getting a slow wind-over when starting. Cleaned the starter brushes, and it was like new. #OTC
Maybe the best videos ever. Through your video found fuel pump locked up. Eventually getting it to work. Question is if you can help me is fuel only runs out when key is on. Very weak. Is it possible to reverse polarity or is fuel pump shot.
I love technician Tuesday’s!!!
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I have a few boats , one restoration is a 1986 sportcraft with a 1976 evinrude 90 hp that wouldn't crank. After much tracing the gremlin ended up being bad grounds. But at least the harness is all nice new and pretty!!!
#otc. I’ve had to on multiple occasions pull start a engine dead battery, bad starter, solenoid, corroded wiring always wise to keep a pull rope in the tool kit. Biggest ive done was a 70hp Johnson cold but ive heard it can be done on some bigger engines warm.
It can on some two strokes, but the new four-strokes that won't work on :(
#OTC was running boat for a couple of weeks when she wouldn't start. Starter was spinning but not kicking up to spin motor. I replaced the starter with one I had on hand and still the same. I went to switch to both batteries and when I did I had my wife turn the key and heard the spark from the wires to the battery . A little tightening and we were off and running
First time I ever started my Yamaha 150, I got the same alarm sound and wondered why it wouldn’t start after 10 minutes of cranking. That kill switch lanyard is easily overlooked when your excited to get out on the water! 😂 #OTC
#OTC This past November my engine died due to a defective fuel/water separator. It was allowing air to be sucked in to the fuel system, but not leaking gas out of it. Bypassing the filter aka cutting and splicing my fuel lines in the middle of the bay got me home under my own power.
#OTC Excelente. Algo complicado a la primera pero es solo verlo varias veces. Gracias. #OTC
#OTC Own 4 Mercurys and not a one gives me trouble, Yet. Thanks for the imfo.
Had a problem with the motor idle and removed the starter to get to the carb off my 2 stroke to clean, and once I installed them back on I had no power whatsoever!
Mercury 225 EFI: I had an ignition fuse keep blowing. It turned out that the fuel pump/VST was gummed up causing the fuel pump to pull a higher current then the fuse would allow. Cleaned the fuel pump screen and VST tank, then ran Sea Foam through it and it's been running great ever since.
Never thought about load testing from the motor. That's a hell of an idea!
#OTC
Anybody that is new to boating should have some basic tools on your boat.west Marina used to give you this hundred piece tool set that was in a little gray box. all you had to do was show them the paperwork that you just bought a boat.
There's a few other things that does not come in that box that every boaters should have. A voltmeter is a godsend. If I had to pick one tool to have on board a voltmeter would be at. Electric tape comes in handy.whenever you do maintenance on your boat like changing spark plugs save the old ones if they're not in too bad of shape. It doesn't hurt to keep extra fuel filters either. Also WD-40 comes in handy.
Another thing to look out for in a no start is your safety switch. I've seen guys work on their engines for hours just that have me come over and I hold the safety switch. I'm one of these people that if you are in trouble I'm going to try to help you. And if I cannot fix what's broke I always throw them back to where they came from no matter where it is.
Back to keep being parts on board. Water pump impellers as another item you could keep as long as it's not that out of shape. I changed the one on my generator and kept the old one on board send it really wasn't in any bad shape. I change a lot of things on my boat every year to prevent problems.
I remember on a memorial day weekend we were in a huge raft up. The boat that was tied up on the starboard side was having some issues with their generator. They had asked us could they put their food in our refrigerator since the generator wasn't working. I talked to the boat owner to find out what was the issue saying it was overheating and shutting down. I asked him when was the last time he change the propeller in the water pump for the generator. He looked at me like I was talking Chinese 😂. I asked him if he would mind if I took a look at it. Since we just met him and his wife he wasn't too sure. Some of the other people in the raft up knows me pretty well and I normally help them with anything that breaks. So I grabbed my tools and jump Right in. Sure enough it was his propeller for the water pump. I cleaned everything up and grabbed my used one that I had changed out the previous summer. It fit like a glove. He kept his generator on the entire weekend with no issues. He tried to get me money I don't need it and I won't accept it. I don't cost me a dime just a little time.
I really enjoy your videos on here. I suggest that people who don't know much about boat motors pay attention to what you are telling them. I watch all of your videos just in case you show me something I did not know. As far as working on any type of motors there's always new technology out there. Sorry for such a long comment. There is just something I'm passionate about. I'm the same way with my Harley I keep tools in my saddlebags and in most cases I use it the fix other people's problem. Look forward to watching more of your videos.
Blown Fuses can also cause a non start too.
another very useful video. Very beneficial
I am having trouble with my 1988 Mako 171. My Key switch all of a sudden lost power along with the trim / Tilt and all of my gauges. However the trim tilt works at the motor button, I get 12 V at multiple spots around the motor, Nav lights, GPS unit, and bilge so I know it's not the battery. I have checked all the fuses and done a few continuity tests around the motor like the neutral switch, and the relay (it jumps the motor) so I am definitely getting power there. I believe it to be the Key Switch to be faulty but not sure why that would lose power to the trim / tilt at the console. It could be a ground somewhere that I do not see. Any help would be amazing, if not no worries.
#OTC i once had a schrader valve on the high pressure fuel rail fail on my fuel injected 2 stroke. the little valve wasn't sealing and it wouldn't hold enough fuel pressure to run... so i got my dirt bike tire stuff, and with the little tool pulled out the valve and put in a little replacement that was in the kit. Its worked great ever since.
What about if you have a motor that starts weak, can you cover that?
Awesome info as always guys. I just fixed my trim switch from last year. 😂
Thank you! Lol, put that one off for awhile huh lol :) Oh well, it happens :)
A+ on content. D- on music. I should not have to tolerate music if I want to listen to u .
#OTC, hopefully I’ll be ok a few years with a new pair of Honda’s and all new batteries! Great info as always! 👍
Great info
Had elctric cable/clamp problems, repair all issue.
#OTC find problem quicker
Thx
May want to add. To mack sure the emergency kill switch is not disengaged. Only reason is. I spent hours tracking a no start issue. 3 hours later i see my life jacket had secrets
#OTC I got tired of these kind of problems. And just replaced everthing starter, fuel pump, rectifier, even fuses. the time I spend on my boat is quality time it's worth the money,
Sitting 16 miles off Fort Pierce Fl. Inlet and turned the key to start the motor and all I got was "Crickets", the battery was only 6 months old and the battery cables clean and tight. Decided to jump the starter solenoid posts and she fired right up. #OTC
This guy is awesome tech very knowledgeable!
Thank you!
So my grandfather turned the battery switch to off when we were running at full speed when we got to are fishing spot turned it off and would not turn back on any ideas?
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#OTC
Another great troubleshooting video! Keep my battery, wiring and terminals in tip top shape so no issues. 🤞🏻
Very informative thank you.
Thanks for watching!
About 3 years ago my dad's friend who had a 1988 evinrude 115 on his boat that would turn over but way to slow and would start smoking if you left they key on for my then 10 second. Turns out when he first set up the boat he didn't have enough wire to run to the starters so he spliced 2 smaller sections to get the length he needed. It worked at first but over time the wire became corridor. He changed the starter twice and check all the fuse and switch but couldn't figure it out. We got a fresh battery and some jumper cables and when right to the starter with it. Turn the key to the on position hit the starter with the juice from our spare battery and vuhala! Would have used a load tester to make things simple but I've never owned one looks to be a very useful tool! Would have one thank for the opportunity to win one in this contest #OTC.
My boat when turn the key is weak but have battery need to test the whole system. That battery tester would be amazing. I was looking to get one this week 👌🏼. #otc
I have an 85 horse, force, cranks and no fire, new water impeller and pumps water through during cranking. see nothing wrong inside the cover.
#OTC another great video! A lot of info in this one. I also love the lit of the tools you use. I rather if I need it use the ones you use.
Thanks for the videos.
Good tips!. Also look for the obvious. Look at the inside of your engine cover. Mine had brown dust around the area of the starter. I had to replace the starter after 10 years of use. #OTC
#OTC I have a Yamaha F300, no starting issues so far, good information, thanks
Question, my verado is having this very issue and the tilt/trim on the throttle control will not works as well. How would this be tied into the no start?
With a Verado, it could be all kinds of variables. I would start with the battery and checking to make sure there is power getting to the engine, as well as clean power and making sure that the 5 Amp fuse it at the battery and not blown :) Hope this helps!
Born Again Boating Thanks for the reply. Plenty of voltage, all fuses are good. Only codes showing are communication errors. If I can find out how the tilt/trim and ignition are tied together on start I can narrow down the culprit. The control module, junction box and wire harness in the console has been changed. If you have any suggestions please share.
Thanks again!!
#otc new used boat new to me used for years tho chilling on the sand bar with everything off tide came back on and it was time to leave click click click nothing both batteries dead thank God for the jump packs
Turn key to accessory and turns power to everything. Turn key to start and nothing. Put it out of neutral and turn to accessory and fuel pump primes does not prime. Pull it back into neutral and fuel pump primes. My guess is the ignition switch.
#OTC Would love to get that load tester in my tool box. Nice troubleshooting tips.
Love the vids! Always learn heaps. The odd flat battery has occurred or even battery failure for us. #OTC
So I have come across a starter issue the bendix won’t spin up and help engage the flywheel any help😢
Make sure it's getting proper power, use a load tester
Ended up being a bad cable we are back thanks born again boating
I also had issue with frozen starter. Tapped it with a bolt pin hammer lightly to get it moving. # OTC
#otc I'd like to see some videos on detailing although it's not mechanically related. Maybe some on the electronics as well
#OTC my motor runs fine at first but when we decide to leave the fishing spot sometimes it decides to not start. Sitting there trying to start it for about 10 minutes before it fires up
@Jeff Lavarie sold this boat, never found the issue. The guy that purchased it took me for a ride a few months later and it was still doing it… long story short get rid of the trash. I love my new 2021 CC w/ 300 Suzuki fires right up and is QUIET
Great information!!!!!!! I think everyone learned a lot.
#otc...that was explained very well, thank you for that info
#OTC Great video deal with this at work all the time
I took my problem (supposedly under warranty) to an authorized dealer for suzuki and got hosed big time. Everything else I had done under the same work order was incomplete or poorly done. The white wire on a suzuki is as important as everything else, a ten year old repower deserves a new rewire. The boat I own probably would not be mine if that happened. The source of most marine problems is 100% bad practices of dealerships, repair shops and the like. Born Again Boating is refreshing. If an authorized dealer says your current 10 year old wires are a bad idea for a repower trust them, if they say it is ok, go somewhere else. If you are in CT and have a suzuki, do not go to Atlantic Marine.
#OTC - great info - I've found the culprits are usually one of the issues you've mentioned
#otc fortunately no failures out on water. Fingers crossed
Last February, I went to go push the start button for the starboard engine on my boat. The engine wouldn't turn over and made a clicking noise. Our mechanic checked it out and it was a bad starter. It was because the mechanic accidentally crimped the hoses during the 100 hour service and put in broken o rings. He admitted it and the starter was seized on both engines, including the port engine which started completely normal the first time. Because he admitted it, he said to take it over to his place and he'd give us new starters and new thermostats for free. #OTC
#OTC not just a subscriber but also recommending you Chanel to my friends , thanks 🙋
#OTC Thanks, Keep the videos coming....Im doing a complete console rewire and electronics and switches. Good stuff
Congratulations! You're this weeks winner :) shoot us an email @ aaron@bornagainboating.com and we'll get your #otc to you!
@@BornAgainBoating Thanks Aaron, I received the OTC. That thing is nice and I assure you it will get some good use. With two Motorcycles a truck and a boat its needed. I hit up your website on suggestions, I brought up the benefits of having a Vesselview vs gauges vs gauges with a chartplotter that displays gauge information.
#OTC Thank you B.A.B; great information; very well presented!
Interesting that you are using a load tester to test for voltage drop across the cables, it's certainly a shortcut if you can safely place the clamps, I wouldn't have ever thought of that. Great video Aaron! #OTC (ps I don't need one) BTW your amazon links are not working correctly.
Thank you! Yeah its always nice to have a shortcut lol oh no, thanks for the heads up I gotta check into that! Any specific link?
@@BornAgainBoating The link for the OTC load tester brings you to the Schumacher one.
@@jasonu1123 shot, I must have them backwards lol thanks for the heads up man!
You forgot the neutral safety switch genius. Or on a force motor the neutral interlock switch
#OTC..awesome video as always👍
Hay guys I’m going to be doing some fishing out of Venice la the inshore oil rigs here is my issue it’s about 30 mile run just to get out of the mighty Mississippi River that means 60 mile run just in the river going out and coming back in then another 30 miles of fishing lm looking at adding a 12 gallon above deck tank to go along with the the 30 gallons of fuel I normally carry here is my question can I put a ball value on the fuel line from the main fuel tank at my water separater and use the other inflow on the water separater for the auxiliary tank thank you for your time and maybe this would be a great topic for good old technicians Tuesday adding an auxiliary fuel tank thank you for your time sincerely George applegate
Awesome! Yeah, you can put those valves on there on the filter bracket. Just make sure you put one on each tank. If you only have one and run the other down empty, it will allow the engine to suck air through that side and even with the other tank full. You will run out of fuel. So put two on for when you switch tanks, you can shut the one off and turn the other on!
Thank you
My Mercury 60 out board will beep 6 times after I start it. The beeping is coming from the throttle assembly. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
#otc I ave a Yamaha 2007 and so far so good. Good information though.
#otc water in fuel was a problem one time
Hi, you helped with changing my thermostat on my Verado 150 Hp 2011 on a StarCraft 2012 246 , today I tried starting the motor and it would not turn making a "toc toc" low noise sound. I thought the battery is the problem so I put a charger on the battery but still the same problem after the charge... The last time I turned it "off" it was in forward gear and the properler was left in "gear" and would not turn. . Now it turns freely but still the same sound when trying to start it. Any ideas ?
Sounds like a power delivery issue, make sure the engine is getting power enough at the starter to carry the load of turning the starter, otherwise, the starter or start relay might have died on you!
@@BornAgainBoating Turns out there are 2 batteries on the pontoon hooked up to a battery isolator. The alternator lug was corroded and I changed it . but that was not the problem (maybe). One battery had 12.8 volts and the other labelled "accessory battery" had 11.7 volts. I charged this last one and the motor was able to turn. Because of Winter in Quebec, we pull out batteries, I think the guy that sold me the pontoon inadvertly put the batteries in their wrong spot, in Spring. I will perform a "load test" on the battery tomorrow and check that the "isolator" is charging both batteries... I am surprised there are "no sounding alarms" at 11.7 volts and that the motor lift works fine (up and down) at that voltage.
Can a water separator cause no start issues after you've left the dock? #OTC
Yes, it won't stop the engine from turning over, but if the water separator has a rusted hole in it and is air leaking. Then engine can run out of fuel and not start!
#OTC videos are great
You should change the name to technician Tuesdays and Fridays LOL really love your videos
We've discussed a "How-To Friday" for the future ;) maybe this is the year?!? ;)
More people should do these great vids #otc
Smoked a starter at the ramp trying to fire up a 70hp Johnson 2 stroke. Turns out the choke primer solenoid was stuck open flooding the thing. #otc
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Great video/channel, it’s always been the relay for me.... dam relay