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  • @WordToMomsYo
    @WordToMomsYo 4 місяці тому +9

    Oooof.. This one is gonna hit closer to home than most. Thanks for covering this topic...

  • @swaggyhall7607
    @swaggyhall7607 4 місяці тому +1

    Keep bringing on the guests with the real stories 💪💪 we fwy mark

  • @yorkieandthecat
    @yorkieandthecat 4 місяці тому +1

    Great guest and conversation! but yeah that coffee ad was super weird.

  • @MichaelDeFillippo8889
    @MichaelDeFillippo8889 4 місяці тому +10

    This video just popped up in my recommended feed as I get ready to go to the Methadone clinic...trippy sh!t.

    • @Downs-Indroam
      @Downs-Indroam 4 місяці тому

      I just went this afternoon.
      I'm in Canada but 120ml for 4 years now

    • @CS-fj3vx
      @CS-fj3vx 4 місяці тому

      Traded one for anotha

    • @oliviaglover9859
      @oliviaglover9859 4 місяці тому

      @@CS-fj3vxwho cares

    • @Queensfinest2023
      @Queensfinest2023 4 місяці тому

      @@Downs-Indroamget off that ish asap

  • @TITISIMO25
    @TITISIMO25 4 місяці тому +3

    Yup that totally organic magic mind ad was super weird

  • @zakgoldwasser7224
    @zakgoldwasser7224 4 місяці тому +31

    That coffee ad in the middle was mad weird. Felt very dishonest and disrespectful of the guest. Really big fan of the show and want to see you succeed

    • @brandoalulema3654
      @brandoalulema3654 4 місяці тому +4

      If anything it made me not want to get it because he did it right in the middle of him telling Mark something

    • @MuchoNoBueno
      @MuchoNoBueno 4 місяці тому +1

      @@brandoalulema3654I thought it was in bad taste,but he has to do that during the peak of a conversation for his sponsors to keep him.Pissed me off also

    • @ivangr6340
      @ivangr6340 4 місяці тому

      Yeah all adds should be in the beginning or emd

    • @GiovanniT
      @GiovanniT 4 місяці тому +1

      Just threw out the rest of my Magic Mind

    • @JoeNoSay
      @JoeNoSay 22 дні тому

      This ad throwing in the middle of podcasts is getting out of hand. Everything’s a money grab. Put it all in the beginning or all at the end if you care about the quality of your content versus more money for viewing times

  • @marko1978st
    @marko1978st 4 місяці тому

    There's Herbert Henke...There's William Burroughs...there's Terrence Mckenna....etc.....you're so right about space production, especially sound - sound is the foundation of it all, and without cultural border - sound is universal global - Universal mind

  • @genuflext
    @genuflext 4 місяці тому +12

    guys spilling his guts out and right into it Mark plugs his coffee 🤣💀
    this is why I love the pod😽

  • @Geezuse
    @Geezuse 4 місяці тому +3

    what the fuck was that weird interruption when he's like "yeah ima take this suppliment...there's no heroin in it or like that shit youre into"

  • @bristlefist
    @bristlefist 4 місяці тому +1

    This has been fascinating. I'm curios if Dimitri is aware that his experience is the whole aim of the 12 step program, deal with the wreckage of your past, have a spiritual (not religious) experience and work toward maintaining that, then devote yourself to helping others. This doesn't have to be achieved through 12 step, it just provides a framework. I find it particularly interesting as he mentions the ibogaine wasn't always successful in achieving full recovery. I wonder what would have happened if those people had a way to continue a spiritual practice and inroads to being of service to others. They seem to be 2 benchmarks in recovery, establishing and maintaining a connection to a power greater than yourself (this can be anything), then committing to service to others.

    • @bristlefist
      @bristlefist 4 місяці тому +1

      Also, the concept of creating a space within yourself is part of the stepwork. Steps 4-9 are about clearing away the wreckage of the past, it's a process of accepting ones inherent defects and becoming accountable for our past, accepting we are all floored, forgiving, being forgiven, acquiring humility and getting free. This process gets "us" out of our own way so a space is created to get in touch and receive strength and guidance from something greater than ourselves.

  • @mtgoxwall
    @mtgoxwall 4 місяці тому

    Really interesting and useful interview, Thank you !

  • @trinidadlorenzo1798
    @trinidadlorenzo1798 4 місяці тому +4

    Mark, you should reach out to former Green Beret Curtis Fox on this book Hybrid Warfare: The Russian Approach to Strategic Competition & Conventional Military Conflict: The Russian Way. I think your viewers could learn a lot from him like I did.

    • @WordToMomsYo
      @WordToMomsYo 4 місяці тому +1

      His interview on Cleared Hot was one of the most interesting and informative episodes of that podcast i've ever heard.

    • @CampGagnon
      @CampGagnon  4 місяці тому +4

      Looking into this and we will reach out to Curtis

  • @Vinsvnity
    @Vinsvnity 4 місяці тому +4

    .. “I saw the image of this guy, umm this older black man .. that was in the jungle .. in a forest I should say” 😅😂

  • @johnvisconti3542
    @johnvisconti3542 28 днів тому

    Gagnon really ask him if he minded him drinking his mushroom milk? The man is sitting here talking about blasting dope for the last hour 😂😂

  • @Charles-hy2ek
    @Charles-hy2ek 4 місяці тому

    This guy rules

  • @etownKeystoned
    @etownKeystoned Місяць тому

    BTW GreekSha-the Man McNasty (his informal title) 20% SUCCESS RATE? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!!! THATS EPIC! you should be obnoxiously proud of numbers like that.
    The numbers, in regard to relapse following treatment, are so epically low, that 10%?! thats worthy of recognition, and, if you were willing, the introduction of a few PHD's capable of thinking not like PHD's (maybe make them trip a few times, because academics can be sooo unaware of their social ineptitude or their own perceived greatness- academics like to throw PHDs at problems like its a solution to everything, "how bad is your cough" "hmm, seee, VOILA , heres 3 PHDs, youll be right as rain in a week

  • @northrndisordr9219
    @northrndisordr9219 Місяць тому

    Ive been on opiates 10 years . Percs oxy etc. Only snorted or ate . Then suboxone and now on kratom. Its broughtr great joy and energy but also misery

    • @johnvisconti3542
      @johnvisconti3542 28 днів тому

      Idk if I would use the words "on kratom" unless it's extract. Pure leaf helped many people and was a much better alternative to pain meds. Also if you're not abusing the leaf wd is absolute minimal. A runny dose and claims skin for 2 days. If you wanted to stop it would happen.

  • @JC_TheDirector
    @JC_TheDirector 4 місяці тому +2

    Was actually an interesting episode 🔥

  • @goldcic
    @goldcic 4 місяці тому

    Gabon! 😮, Did you bring back any activated Nkisi figures? They are facinsting.

  • @jac0bh7821
    @jac0bh7821 4 місяці тому

    Just looked into it. First place that popped up is $7,000 for ibogaine treatments

  • @KennethChristian
    @KennethChristian 4 місяці тому +3

    It’s hit or miss with these guests. 🤦🏻

  • @EasternSunset007
    @EasternSunset007 4 місяці тому

    I’ve been watching this channel and flagrant for quite a while now, and embarrassingly I just now realized it’s the same dude! I was just now watching flagrant and thinking to myself, this dude looks just like the dude from camp Gagnon!😂😂😂

    • @almostrich4013
      @almostrich4013 4 місяці тому

      Haha it’s actually not him, it’s his twin brother

  • @MuchoNoBueno
    @MuchoNoBueno 4 місяці тому

    Great show!

  • @ajk710
    @ajk710 4 місяці тому +3

    He's lucky, his ancestors loved the preza. In Greece, there were Opium dens up until the 40s-50s.

  • @Enjo_927
    @Enjo_927 4 місяці тому +2

    Please put back up the big body interview

  • @masterninja522
    @masterninja522 4 місяці тому +7

    Mark ya buying comments? Myguey

  • @dontdomelikethst
    @dontdomelikethst 4 місяці тому

    hydrochlorid is just an state of a substance. it is teh saltform (crystallized form) of any substance. hcl is the shortform for it & if you look into your med supply, you will read that word more often, together with diff states of a substances. snortable cocaine i.e is an hyrochlorid, its crystalline. crack cockaine is the baseform of that same substance, but isnt snortable rather smokeable

  • @elCharroconnectado
    @elCharroconnectado 4 місяці тому +3

    Yo anyone see his right eye .. our left.. its like blinking light when he is looking straight But his other eye is normal ? Tripping me out

    • @almostrich4013
      @almostrich4013 4 місяці тому

      The dude has done coke and heroin for decades. His eyes are gonna be a little weird

    • @norab7432
      @norab7432 4 місяці тому +2

      Whoa I just saw it, only because of your comment! That is bizarre, I’m not sure what would actually cause that… 🤔

    • @Kaa864
      @Kaa864 4 місяці тому

      Shiiiiiit that is fucked thank god I wasn’t baked and noticed that.

    • @Kaa864
      @Kaa864 4 місяці тому

      Sure it’s something to do with camera cause u can see a slight red as well.

    • @elCharroconnectado
      @elCharroconnectado 4 місяці тому +1

      @@norab7432 right! I was thinking either a glass eye or the camera but I've met people with glass eyes and it never did that and if it was the camera you would think it would be on the other eye too so idk ... I seen something about an eye surgery that could cause a similar effect. Btw Nora i love ur meditation playlist 🙏🏼

  • @marko1978st
    @marko1978st 4 місяці тому

    I tried everything....now after 25yrs of everyday heroin addictiom and 35 since I first took it with friends but we didn't like it....we liked everything else.
    Point is I live with psychoactive substances all my life.
    It has come to the point that thru last 4-5yrs I lost my step, earning possibilities and I just don't know what to do - I want to emigrate to another EU country but I'm scared with how will my methadone therapy be transferred - cos I need to get my financial stability back and I am totally into Ibogaine. I love(d) LSD, DMT and all sorts of heavy psychedelics.....so I think it would be passable for me.
    Biggest problem is I been house planted far too long.....

    • @bristlefist
      @bristlefist 4 місяці тому

      It's not solely the ibogaine that provided the recovery. The Ibogaine for Dimitri provided a spiritual experience and allowed to him to make peace with his past, the other key factor here is he then went out with a determination to make this available for others ie service to others. Have you ever tried 12 step? I don't mean just going to meetings, I mean doing all 12 of the steps with a sponsor, quickly, not over 6 months or a year. I mean going from step 1-12 in a week or two (as if your life depended on it), making all your amends (ALL) and then immediately (IMMEDIATELY) going out to find other addicts to take through the steps yourself. The 12 step framework is there to provide the same experience Dimitri went through with the ibogaine. The 12th step work he initiated himself by helping other addicts. It's not the only way but it does work, especially when the focus is on doing the steps and getting through them quickly rather than just attending hundreds of meetings. Meetings never got me sober

    • @marko1978st
      @marko1978st 4 місяці тому

      No bro....I typed up a big answer and accidentally deeted it....for f's sake...
      But in any case theres no 12 step in Balkans ewhere Im friom - it a type of ,multiyear commune/rehab and once you finish iot - you havent resolved shit - that door closes behind you, you re clean but the fight is on every damn day, no resocialization, nothiing.
      I cant type it all again but the jest of it is getting back on my feet financially....Ibogaine and as you pointed out - immidatelly jump in the active helping others...and of course, I think some kind of 'sponsor' is immeasurably important

    • @bristlefist
      @bristlefist 4 місяці тому

      @@marko1978st I honestly feel for you dude and I relate to what you're saying, I'd been trying to get sober since I was 27 and I really felt rehab was my last shot. In the two years leading up to rehab I'd become homeless for the first time, became estranged from my friends and family and my mother had put a restraining order on me. I'd been an addict for such a long time but I'd always managed to keep it together enough to maintain a few friends and have a roof over my head so finding myself in this situation was something I never expected.
      Prior to rehab I'd spent a year attending pre-admission meetings between relapses, staying at and getting kicked out of an emergency accommodation facility. I finally got into rehab and made it through the treatment. When I got out, there was post care support accommodation but it was full up. I'd reconnected with my parents during my stay so went to my Fathers. A few days later I got a call from my Mother, she was going in to hospital for brain surgery and had nobody to help or drive her to/from hospital etc. I wasn't living in her area so agreed to stay at her place while she was in hospital.
      While staying alone at her house I found the oxycontin she'd been prescribed, she didn't like taking it so there was a lot. I relapsed immediately despite going to daily meetings. I'm also an alcoholic and that was the next stage of the relapse, I started drinking and was homeless again within a few weeks. After having absolutely no hope for such a long time prior to rehab and then finally getting some hope during rehab the relapse was crushing.
      Over the next few months my mother got worse, went into hospice care and eventually passed away. My sister who I hadn't talked to for years then also passed away from cancer. I was living in a house with a some active and some non active addicts, it was a crazy mess. It was the worst environment imaginable. As bad as being homeless.
      I went to meetings every day as I had nowhere else to go, but I kept relapsing. I did all the things everyone from recovery told me to do. Go to meetings every day, Call people in recovery every day etc. I was watching people that came into recovery after me get sober while I kept relapsing. Nothing worked. I honestly believed I would never get sober.
      Finally I asked a guy that actually understood the steps to sponsor me. He was the first person that explained the process to me in a way I could understand, I'd been doing 12 step for over a year, a meeting every day and for the first time I had clear instructions of what I needed to do.
      I was still living in the same place and things there went from bad to worse, but I just focused on keeping my door locked and getting through the steps.
      Really crazy things started to happen, amazing things, too many to go into here and then one day it was like the dams burst inside me and everything I'd been carrying around my whole life was washed away, all the pain, remorse, resentment was all just gone. My living situation was still completely terrible but somehow it didn't bother me, I felt like I'd been lifted up above it all, I felt like I was being carried, I felt free.
      This happened in the space of a day when I started my 9th step, that morning my life was nothing but insurmountable obstacles and by the end of the day all I could see were opportunities. I actually called my sponsor that night because in all my life I'd never felt that good before, I thought I was having some kind of euphoric breakdown.
      What I realise now is that something happened inside of me, something I'd been trying to achieve for over a decade, on some kind of spiritual level, I felt the freedom, peace and hope that drugs provided me when I first started using them but I was feeling it sober and it was real.
      It was explained to me that the next step was to maintain the connection with whatever that was and that would come through helping others have the same experience I'd had. I threw myself into that 100% because I wanted to hold onto the way I felt. I did anything and everything I could to make myself available to addicts and alcoholics wanting to recover.
      During covid lockdown I was taking other people through the steps via the internet because there was no physical meetings, I stayed sober through crippling health issues, relationship break ups and poverty over that period.
      These days I have a son, I play in a band and I'm starting my own business, this is unthinkable considering the person I was just four years ago. I perform in bars regularly and I never feel tempted to drink or use. Relationships with family and friends have been mended. I volunteer at every rehab and detox facility that will have me so I can offer the same experience I was given. I know my sobriety is contingent on helping others. I've sponsored a lot of men and have been doing so since I was 2 months sober.
      The man that sponsored me was sponsored via email and skype during the early 2000s so this is possible.
      What I'm trying to say is despite how impossible things feel don't give up. Everything about my environment was working against me. Meetings didn't help and support from family, friends and other addicts didn't work. I had a spiritual experience as a result of working those steps and the desire to use went away, I then put absolutely everything I had into trying to help others, it came before everything else, I've even been homeless in sobriety but after that initial experience I've never lost faith that this works. It's not the only way to get sober but it's clear cut and simple, there's a framework.
      I'd really like to talk to you more about it if you're interested, I'm not sure how we'd make contact outside of youtube. I'm obviously reluctant to leave my email here.

    • @scottmikelbrenna
      @scottmikelbrenna 4 місяці тому

      unfortunately, someone who has been using for a long period of time will have an extremely difficult time getting through the withdrawals. more often than not that’s what causes them to use again in the early days of sobriety. desperately wanting to rid the unbearable sickness and pain from their body. and often times are too sick to get up to use the bathroom let alone drive to and sit through a meeting. MAT programs can be helpful, but commonly people become comfortable and stay on for years instead of using it temporarily while working on themselves; repair the issues that stemmed from the addiction and mend the underlying problems/trauma that ultimately led to addiction in the first place. I support the 12 step program, but am also aware it is not for everyone. i believe ibogaine treatment should only be considered after other treatment options have been unsuccessful. i feel many hear about it and look at it as a one step cure-all and don’t realize the continuous work that goes along with it.
      again this is all just my opinion 🙂

  • @justinwithbags9155
    @justinwithbags9155 4 місяці тому

    1:52 what’s that? The substance he named

  • @FuhQ64
    @FuhQ64 4 місяці тому +1

    Lean and Percocet are affecting the young black community, they're just don't seek treatment for it in a traditional way

    • @wejsmith5446
      @wejsmith5446 4 місяці тому

      Sure, but you think its worse than the crack era?
      Idk, im curious. I think they were sayin the numbers overall went down for group.

    • @bestjobiveeverhad1348
      @bestjobiveeverhad1348 4 місяці тому

      What do they do? Just detox at home?

    • @FuhQ64
      @FuhQ64 4 місяці тому

      @@wejsmith5446 probably not as bad as the crack era but i guess that's not a great comparison since the age demographics are different.
      Makes me wonder how old the youngest crackhead is 🤔

    • @anthonyc8248
      @anthonyc8248 4 місяці тому +1

      Here in the Bay Area, it's fentanyl and meth.

    • @FuhQ64
      @FuhQ64 4 місяці тому

      @@anthonyc8248 fent & meth in the black community? Hot damn

  • @gabagool_fool4933
    @gabagool_fool4933 4 місяці тому +1

    This man is a Marxist… But Mark I love the topic keep em coming. Thank you

  • @seyeli84
    @seyeli84 4 місяці тому +3

    Heroine looks like a soft drug today

    • @dontdomelikethst
      @dontdomelikethst 4 місяці тому

      really is riskwise, deathwise compared to what is around in the states atp... those fentalogues, zenes & tranq i a whole nother planet compared to normal opioids & even heroin...
      dosage makes the poison, as they say & all of those mentioned are def poison no matter how much you consume. cant understand how the states havent done ANYTHING but provide paraphernelia to use those

  • @rjrulz327
    @rjrulz327 4 місяці тому

    I love the juice.

  • @claytonroberson4813
    @claytonroberson4813 4 місяці тому +1

    Ill comment right now for a dollar

  • @UrbanNinja26
    @UrbanNinja26 4 місяці тому +2

    Am i tripping or does this guy have Leukocoria in his right eye?

    • @gabagool_fool4933
      @gabagool_fool4933 4 місяці тому

      I just noticed it as well!

    • @MichaelDeFillippo8889
      @MichaelDeFillippo8889 4 місяці тому

      No, I definitely see that had no idea what it was though I thought for a second he was missing his right eye.

    • @WordToMomsYo
      @WordToMomsYo 4 місяці тому +2

      Would an artificial IOL cause a similar light effect? Perhaps he had cataract surgery at some point...

  • @CertifiedSkank
    @CertifiedSkank 4 місяці тому +2

    He’s describing opiate withdrawal, but I feel like that every day. What’s that about?

  • @BigolCockenhammer-pp9sj
    @BigolCockenhammer-pp9sj 4 місяці тому

    I say it's your body who can tell you what to do .....if people would not jump to this idea it's bad and say well it's less than a beer ....affect ...in all seriousness achol messes you up and messes your life up more ...why not make it legal and clean and safe and say that is up to you ...of the stigma and the paranoia from these cops trying to rob you and take you life from you because you had an injury and was addicted most cases or you like to get high ...so what ....? Who does that hurt ....this all this shit is what hurts you and your wallet ...I don't care 8 think of they made it to where you could go to Walmart and buy 90 lortab 7.5 a month it would reduce all of these over doses and stop all this shit over night ....

  • @jonnyke7090
    @jonnyke7090 4 місяці тому +3

    Suboxone saved my life.

    • @jefferymorton9704
      @jefferymorton9704 4 місяці тому +2

      Methadone saved mine..I'm out

    • @jonnyke7090
      @jonnyke7090 4 місяці тому

      @@jefferymorton9704 Best of luck with your recovery brother 🙏

    • @6izzy837
      @6izzy837 4 місяці тому

      ​@@jefferymorton9704you're lucky I know multiple people who are now addicted to methadone and are worse off than they were before.

    • @joey_ferrari24
      @joey_ferrari24 4 місяці тому +2

      Subs also kept me in Limbo for 3 years… I personally would never recommend it to anyone who’s trying to get off dope. Suffer for a month than exist for years I say.

    • @jonnyke7090
      @jonnyke7090 4 місяці тому

      @@joey_ferrari24 Sometimes people just need to start somewhere and I could not manage going cold turkey. I have my life back and believe others can do the same, whatever mode it takes them to get there is up to them. Good luck with your recovery brother.

  • @ThizzMarley
    @ThizzMarley 4 місяці тому

    I’m getting cult leader vibes

  • @jzen1455
    @jzen1455 4 місяці тому

    he reminds me of a Dave Attell and a funnier version of Tom Segura.

  • @TrevorJohnson.
    @TrevorJohnson. 4 місяці тому

    With all due respect…

  • @Andreas_linden
    @Andreas_linden 4 місяці тому

    👍

  • @matthewsumner3398
    @matthewsumner3398 4 місяці тому

    Boo😑