Baratoplata Setups Number 3 (of 3)
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I've watched these 3 a bunch of times over the past two years. I just started trying it consistently this month. It's really interesting how this third setup is the one that I'm now most excited about. My 'game' usually involves Half Top -> Side Control and then -> simple cross collar choke -> far arm attacks (kimura, americana, straight arm lock) -> darce (like in this video) -> now I get to add another element, baratoplata entry from the 'failed' darce. This seems perfect for my game. I was trying this on folks from the guard, and I keep forgetting two important details: bury the wrist below the groin and go for an underhook/leg/head grip when applying the submission. I was ending up with my guard being passed, accidently applying a bicep curl, or other silliness. Thanks! Oss!
My teacher pointed out it's almost always best to learn a submission from the top, maybe later apply it from the back. Anyhow, yeah man, adding one more submission to the game makes everything so much better. Greater than the sum of it's parts.
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such great stuff!!! Time to start using these 3 as well as the Tarik!
I learned this from Rafael (Barata) Freitas back when he was instructing in Hawaii. Nice to see how it's grown in popularity
Rafael is the badass that popularised this position! Awesome! (-: Coach Tom Davey
the 3 parter was great...thanks
I like to catch this from failed armbars (when opponent pulls arm out) or from triangle setup if he starts getting posture on me. The first time I won a match at a tournament was with this technique.
Just watched the 3 parts, man I appreciate the content, very informative !
Dumb (WB) question for you Coach Tom...@2:30 would it work if you figure 4 your legs? I'm guessing since you didn't do it, it wouldn't work that way? Thanks for making this excellent series and always bringing more experience behind the moves, than just "here's what you do".
Hi Todd, short answer is its best not to as you really need shoulder pressure and depending on the position hip pressure too. This cant really be done with triangle off legs but give both a try with a partner and get their feedback directly. The baratoplata/dorsal fin attack series can be tricky in real life so details count! (-: Coach Tom Davey
The Grappling Academy thanks a lit for the feedback Coach Tom I will try it and see how it goes.
im always concerned that i'll lose the arm when im submitting. although its never happened i assumed it was because i keep my second knee (not the one over the shoulder) tight to their body. i notice when you do it you're not at all concerned the hand will slip out over your open legs and the arm straighten, so it seems its not an issue?
Thanks for the vids, i've actually only watched vids of catch wrestlers do this (they call it a dorsal fin lock), and some have quite interesting entries that you might find fun
Cheers from Tassie
Awesome Ryder. I myself love catch wrestling and any grappling art to be honest. Happy rolling down there in good old Tassie! (-: Coach Tom Davey
@@TheGrapplingAcademy I'm wondering this same question, do you have an answer?
Hi the position at 1.56? would this work if you were to just throw your left leg 180 degrees round and over his body slamming your own back to the floor in the process and basically americana him? secondly would it also be a submission by pulling his arm out of the socket by throwing both legs over his body and standing up vigorously? i'm very interested in your opinion.
I can always theorize but will never advise things I do not consider to be an expert on. My answer: try both options but both seem to perhaps be too loose/troublesome. Find out! (-: Coach Tom Davey
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The thing i find about grappling is that you spend two years or so training and think your getting somewhere then you wake up one day and realize you actually know nothing.
Your answer.
Roger Machado armpit americana.
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Just saw someone hit this in comp and knew I wanted to add it to my arsenal. Like always, Coach Tom has a detailed instructional on it. Big thanks and hope your recovery is progressing well! At least 150k of us around the globe are counting on you to get better so we can keep getting better.