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⚠️ SAFETY when BOONDOCKING & DISPERSED CAMPING 🏕
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- With campgrounds closed right now, many people are looking into dispersed camping as an alternative. Understandably many people are concerned about the safety aspects of camping remotely on public land. It's a sad fact that there are criminals who will prey on campers and hikers out in the wilderness by intruding on and raiding campsites, breaking into vehicles or worse. Hopefully some of these camp security tips can help you stay safe and feel secure out in the wilderness whether you are living in an RV full time or out for the weekend tent camping on public lands.
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One thing I do when I go camping by myself is bring two camp chairs and set them up around the campfire, that way if someone rolls up while your sleeping or whenever it gives the illusion that there's at least two people.
Thanks for the tip
Well, now I know you're gonna be alone... 😯
@@alaska-bornfloridaman Maybe, maybe not
Great idea
Hi Donnie, new sub here. The Second Amendment has been a pretty touchy subject to discuss openly these days and has caused even family divisions. I am a proponent for the rights to bear arms but I am more concerned about the variation of laws from state to state regarding transporting firearms across the country. I am a van lifer at age 74 having sold, donated or given away almost everything I owned. Now I travel for pleasure wherever the compass takes me. I left Virginia and traveled cross country and never encountered any situation where I felt threatened; however, I kept one of my firearms just in case and stored away properly separating the components. I also have other means of protection. An important element for my safety is using common sense and gut feeling. I taught survival in the military and those two aforementioned elements have kept my ass out of harm's way.
If I'm able to have my car right by camp (as opposed to hiking in), I'll park my car with the headlights pointing toward my tent. That way, if I hear something in the middle of the night, I can hit the unlock button on my key fob and my headlights will turn on and illuminate the entire area around my tent.
Great idea!
That is a great idea I never thought of. So simple.
Solar proximity spikes are dirt cheap on Amazon.
seems like a good way to blind yourself if someone is at your car lol.
I would have a dog not so much for scaring others, but as an early warning system. That dog will see and smell danger long before you will.
An alert dog is definitely an asset.
And hear for sure.
I always camp with my male Boxer. Awesome breed for camping. Very protective but friendly and not too big.
I carry and my dog is always with me. That little bit of hesitation of them seeing a pit bull just maybe all the time I have.
Don’t they attract animals though?
Learned a Long Time Ago in The Sticks .. It's Not The 4 Legged animals You Have To Worry About , It's The 2 Legged Ones ..
I knew it, we should fear the chickens, those little bastards
No truer words spoken!!!! 2 legged way more tricky than 4 legs!!!! Stay safe!
Yeah a bear standing up is pretty scary
2 legged rodents are the greatest threat and enemy to man and nature.
Those faking kangaroos!
I spent over 30 years as a police officer in a major city. My advice is to ALWAYS carry a firearm, whether you're in the city or the wilderness. Whether you're in a crowd or alone in the middle of nowhere, better to have and not need than need and not have. If you don't need it, nobody even has to know to know you have it. I agree with Donnie completely in that you need to be comfortable with the weapon, so don't neglect training. My wife and I always boondock and seek out there areas that are way off the beaten path. We've on occasion run into some sketchy characters out there. I've never had to draw the weapon but it's a comfort to know it's handy. I've worked literally thousands of violent crimes during my career, and have NEVER had a victim say: "I'm so glad I didn't have a gun". Have fun out there, and be safe!
Stay Code 4
Ok ill buy one but there expencive so ill have to wait until my payday
@@kennywhite5890 a 9m gun in my opinion is a great starter one. I love the weight and the accuracy of it. I love that you can easily find 9m bullets as well.
So true. Thank you 😊
I'm a retired LEO. I am 75, and have been carrying since I was 21. I have been certified by NRA, the State of Alabama, and the FBI as a firearms instructor. (Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun, and Pepper Sprays.) I carry everyday. Ever since I retired I have made a practice of carrying concealed. I like the idea of my weapon being a surprise.
I’m a single, 59 y/o female and I always have a firearm with me when I’m camping. But I’ve been shooting my whole life and can break it down and put it back together quickly. I’ve taken safety courses and practice frequently. If someone isn’t comfortable with a firearm, it can be more harmful to force themselves to have one.
Love your dog! One of my favorite breeds. Their separation anxiety issues make it necessary that they be with you almost all the time but if you can do that, they’re amazing to have.
Kudos to you, fellow lone camper. Stay safe!
Firearm safety is easy. Kids learn it. Once it's there, it's there. The minimum skill/practice level to defend yourself safely is very low. Taking courses are far from necessary. It truly is common sense, other than specific firearm operation which for the vast majority of guns can be explained or figured out with fundamental knowledge.
My kind of woman, stay safe.
What if you are visiting the U.S. from another country , where are we suppose to get a gun ?
@@Jay-vr9ir you need to be a citizen
Been carrying firearms with me while camping for the past 41 years. Never had to brandish it and that's good. As for a dog, it's a great warning system...that's why mine comes along.
Im screwed......cat lover😆
You f your dog
You dog people need to be put in your place. Keep your mutts on a goddamn leash
@@kandacepatterson7965 get a dog that loves your cat .
You gotta have a Dog and a Glock 20 in 10mm , An AR15 and a MB590A1 ....minimum and a good Dog .
being a woman who is most of the time alone out like that,, then yes i take gun... can't help if that offends anyone, Lord I pray that i never have to use one,, but if something does happen then i will be happy to have my gun by my side...
Dont apologize for not wanting to die. Guns are the greatest equalizer and if anyone looks down on that its cause they are bullies themselves.
I just ordered a handgun to protect my son with special needs and myself when camping either at state park camping or dispersed. I will take training courses and get a lockbox.
Don’t ever say sorry for wanting to live ok , we have the right to protect ourselves . God bless you and stay safe.
Don’t apologize for exercising your rights and protecting yourself! If that offends someone, then THEY have the problem. God bless and safe travels 🙏
With a name like @GypsySue I was hoping you had some videos listed.
Sounds like you’re an interesting person.
Very well done video! I particularly liked that you advised others to stay in their comfort zones, and yes bear spray works on more than bears. The only thing that i wish you had discussed is that everyone needs to listen to their intuition, because it is usually spot on! Good job over all.
I recommend UDAP.
you can be charged for spraying someone with bear spray, especially if it causes engery and they where not directly attacking u.
You'll bear spray yourself in an enclosed camper. No beuno.
‘Best to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it’
Right i been thinking about getting one before me and my daughter go camping
using this logic you should dress in football pads at all times....you are living in fear
That's the best advice my grandfather ever gave me !
@@vladimirstolov9324 dumb response.
@@shutarakademars2881 I feel
Safer with my gun. People go missing every day!
Most bad people won't be out in the middle of the great outdoors. But just the same I have my guns. Trust your gut feeling. I grew up with guns.
Keep your vehicle turned around and ready to run if necessary.
Crazy people live out in the woods .. creeps and racists
@@louieDsypo ...we dont want you out there anyway
@@ssnerd583 come to the city with that attitude...
@@louieDsypo ...yer a cupcake...you wouldnt last a night in MY woods.....I grew up in the city...you aint got NOTHING on me, chump
@@ssnerd583 shut up , I'll do you like Chai Vang did.
I am 66, camp alone often with my Maltipoo. No gun. But, I do out three chairs out, and have a recording of a conversation I have played twice, lol
This granny is nuts, yes!
But have never had a bad moment! Camp safety first always and much love to all!
A key element of Safety anywhere is situational awareness- being in touch with your surroundings/situation can often prevent trouble before anything begins to develop. Bear spray is a very useful deterrent- having it handy (and being able to deploy it in a few seconds) is a good alternative to firearms. Dogs are a deterrent too, and even a dog who appears friendly may be very protective when he understands you really need help.
I almost always carry when out in the woods. I worry more about people than animals.
People are much more deadly than any wild animals.
Nice video. Boondocked for 7 yrs in Colorado without a firearm. Doing the same in GA now and that 9mm never leaves my side. I'm a Realist ✌️
Yep, there is ABSOLUTELY no reason whatsoever that any good American should be living life day to day WITHOUT exercising their 2nd Amendment Rights, Period!!
It's a God given Constitutionally protected Right to protect you and your family, and anyone else who might not be able to protect themselves and need help.. that is the DUTY of a Free People.
@@BabyCharlotteschannel Far better to have that sidearm and not need it than the other way around. I have had guns and various weapons my whole life, I'm comfortable with them and there's no reason to change now.
@JOHN e BOB A realist, huh? I’m a Baptist....
@@privateer177666 im nondenominational
I've always had firearms.Bought my first when I was 14.That being said,I don't worship them.It's a tool like my ax,shovel or ratchet.Great protection,not a lifestyle.I've traveled thU.S. for years and the only two places I felt I might be forced to use a firearm against a human was Georgia and Florida.Fortunately I ended up not having to either time.
I appreciate all your good information here. I turned 72 years old this year Going on 30. Due to health reasons I had to downsize and sold my small travel trailer but I still have it in me to One account so I bought a really good Kodiak temp and I will be camping alone throughout East Tennessee Mountains this summer. When I had the travel trailer I really never thought about people are problems I felt a little more secure inside of a hardside vehicle. So this will be a new experience sleeping in a tent this year. Thank you for your great information and please stay safe and healthy out there.
how did your camping summer go?
I don't understand how people can camp out in tents when there are BEARS out there?
@@JoDo777 Bears typically don't bother people if you're responsible.
72 going on 30 made me laugh out loud ❤️ How has tent camping been?
I would never recommend ot anyone to go into the wilderness without firearms, rifle and pistol. Case in point, my friend was out overlanding solo in eastern Oregon. He was setting up camp for the evening when a car with four methheads drove up and exited their vehicle. My friend picked up his rifle, the methheads got back into their vecicle and left. My friend packed up his kit and left to find a different place to camp that night.
Better have it and not needing it, than not having it when you need it.
The dog we have is to small to do much protection. But he makes a good alarm system and can be a distraction.
A dog that acts as an alarm is worth 13 that won't.
"It ain't the size of the dog in the fight.
it's the size of the fight in the dog."
I WON'T camp w/o a good dog ....
I have my BIG anatolian shepherd (hes the protection) but my minature schnauzer is the alarm
@@sandhiller49 That reminds me of something I read a few years ago. It was an article about dogs and bugging in. The writer recommended a big dog to run the intruder off,and a small dog to wake the big dog up.
Don't underestimate the advantages of a small dog. I've known large GSD that snored so loud and slept so deeply, they'd sleep through a bomb going off. A little dog, much more alert. However, my experience with small dogs is they may remain silent when the threat is that of an apex predator like a cougar or bear.
I respect how you worded the firearm debate; it is a personal choice. After working in law enforcement for 15 years now, I wish I could go back to not knowing what goes on around us. I have friends who backpack in some really rough areas (land wise) and never carry anything. I love how safe they feel. In the mountains of Northern California thousands of people go missing or are found dead from the marijuana growers. For this reason I carry what they carry, an AR-15. And yes, I have known people who had guns pointed at them and told to leave. I also know people who have had to use their firearms to protect themselves.
Being said, it is a choice and we need to respect everyone else's choice to carry or not carry. If you do carry, know your weapon and the laws, and be prepared to use it if you pull it out.
"In the mountains of Northern California thousands of people go missing or are found dead from the marijuana growers" - come on now, you know that's complete BS.
@@capefearcapt4679 There is a documentary called "Murder Mountain" that touches on this very subject. It only focuses on one area.
@@capefearcapt4679 - I don't know any specific numbers, but yes, there are dead people out in the woods as a result of the Marijuana grows. We own ranch and timber property in norcal and have seen it. The growers leave a few poor saps out there to tend and guard the grows and they are usually the ones who get offed. Used to be mostly illegal Mexicans, now its more Asians. Its a bit unnerving when you happen on to a grow and you hear shovels drop and footsteps in the leaves. The growers are armed to the teeth. They use attack dogs and booby traps also. If you're going out to areas you don't know, I recommend using Google earth to see if you can see a grow. They aren't shy about having them out in the open in neat rows which are visible on satellite. Sometimes they will occupy old caretakers cabins, so also beware of those. There are lots of old mine shafts out there.
@@spudbono5747 Maybe a few incidents, but JMB stated thousands, and that's ludicrous.
The ONLY "law" for a human is "NATURAL LAW... "Do no harm, live and let live"...!
camping was so different when I was a kid in the 60s. For one thing, you rarely saw RVs other than truck campers, or little pop ups. We tent camped a lot, had a truck camper a few years, then went back to tent camping. Other campers were respectful, quiet at night. We would often be visited by deer, but rarely any large predators. In 19 years of camping, the only bears I ever saw were raiding the garbage dump in Yosemite, back when they used to have a big garbage dump there. My dad always had a weapon stowed safely away and I doubt we even gave it a single thought as to necessity. Only once did I see my dad kind of get nervous about something and dig it out from where he kept it. Campgrounds were cheap and rarely full, except in the larger touristy spots. The peace and quiet of the mountains I still think of as the best nights of my life.
Me, too.
A lot have mentioned this point, but I've also observed it while hiking. I notice that most of the weirdos I meet in the outdoors are always closest to the parking lot, or in areas that are most accessible. I have quite literally never had issues in areas where I'm either in a tent only area, or far enough away from the trail where even hikers typically don't bother you. The further from the parking lot you are, the better the people often are. Chances are they're doing the same thing you are.
True, but around the Seattle/Puget Sound area, it's getting a lot more dicey in that regard. I was alone, camping on the primitive side of Baker Lake a few years aho, camp well back, when I heard a couple arguing about 70, ft away. They were setting up camp and noticed me because their dog was loose and was visiting me. They called him back and later I walked by the trail. They had been cussing and arguing for an hour. As I passed and said hi, I got eye-balled up and down pretty hard by a red-eyed dirty young guy and his equally dirty female companion. That's when he saw my fully exposed semi-auto and I could see the look change from what may have been "opportunity" to "screw it." I was at least 35 years older than they were and maybe looked like a mark. They left a half hour later and went back towards the parking lot - 4 miles away.
Thanks, Donnie. You are very level headed and have a calm, reassuring presence. Thanks for this video:)
I'm retired Law Enforcement and been around guns all my life. Backpacking they stay at home the majority of time. I backpack solo and my camp is normally setup 100 feet or more off trail. My two items are a good , solid , wood hiking staff and a large can of Bear Spray. The Bear spray is rated for Grizzly Bears and will go out over 30 feet. The benefit is it's a non lethal item but you would not think that if you were on the receiving end of it. It's good for any warmblooded critter , 4 legs or 2. Plus I hike the Florida trail and as a member I can not carry a firearm on it even with my Concealed Weapon Permit. The weapons for that permit are carried when I'm the so called civilized areas.
Have a question I hope you can answer. Regarding the Bear spray. Was wondering how hard of a back spray would I get if I had to use that. I'm ex-Army, so I had to be gassed during training. So I know what that's like. But I'm older now and post chemo, so my breathing is more sensitive now.....very slight asthma. In your experience, do you think Bear Spray is an option for someone like me as part of my protection plan?
So if someone had full intent to kill you for whatever reason now they're bkind and angrh firing in your direction, now what?
What a fudd take.
Hope is coming, constitutional carry legislation is likely a sure thing for Florida soon.. Especially with DeSantis leading the charge..
@@pattikelly8921 ours went off by accident in our home. I could go anywhere near the spray area. My husband wasn’t too trouble.(this was just a small amount). I couldn’t breathe at all and was very motivated to stay away. Probably a person by person thing. Oddly enough husband had breathing issues me not much🤷♀️
Beautiful blue Weimaraner there! That's good protection / intimidator! They are very much family dogs and I know for a fact, they will die to protect their owners. I grew up with them, and had them all threw my children's childhood, at the moment 2 are owners now. The bark alone has kept many of my friends in their car until I came outside, they even knew the dog, the dog knew them, they still wouldn't get out of the car....lol Absolutely gorgeous she is! Might as well name them "velcro" they love their owners!
Love boondocking and I carry. Always have and always will
Always carry. Be safe
Living in the UK this casual attitude to carrying a gun seems pretty scary.
I follow the ABC's... Always be Carrying! I carry in all areas: urban, suburban, city, etc.! I have a CCW permit from multiple states... which gives me broader CCW permit protection that covers me in most states (not all - then know how you can have your weapon in your vehicle, etc). Know the CCW laws in each state, take classes... and practice... practice... practice!
Come to Hawaii with your concealed carry.
I just carry and have never had to use it. I would agree with what you said about campgrounds. I have had several issues with yahoos in those places. That is why I go real deep and hardly ever see anyone.
With us it's all about getting as far away for people as we can. We have found places that are 50 to 100 miles from any paved roads or towns.
Nice content. Single woman that hikes and camps alone with my dog. I always carry when hiking or camping, but I make my firearm selection based on the intended trail/area. We have several large predators in my local mountains but we also have human/drug smugglers who have been known to steal cars at gunpoint. My dog is an excellent warning system but so far, I cannot tell whether she is smelling a deer, javalina, human...if she refuses to go forward, then we turn around and my hand rests on my sidearm. Trust the dog! I've never had a problem while dispersed camping; my concern is safety on the trail.
Since I'm a full time boondocker, I have to have protection. I'm also a sailor. What's my safety/weapon of choice? A Flare Gun. It's a great safety device and it's also very scary to look down the barrel of, and you don't want to be the first one to get hit.....
In places where wild fires are a definite possibility, a flare gun may not be the best option. However, I agree, they are very much a deterrent and potentially lethal.
If your going to carry a gun carry a real one. What happens if you start a forest fire? You might be more of hazzard to others than what your trying to protect yourself from.
@@chrisellis2991 My life takes precedent over someone trying to do me harm. Whether that involve starting a fire or not. That's why people trapped in the wild, start massive fires to attract attention.
He said he’s also a sailor so he’s probably saying he uses one on the water.
1. Tell someone where / when you're going. 2. Go deeper into the woods. (Not visible to others) 3.Safety in numbers. Don't go alone. 4.Firearms - your comfort level and choice. Alternatives - Bear spray, mace. A bat or baton. 5. Get a dog.
I put a cast iron skillet by the door, anatolian Shepherd (HUGE), Wasp spray at bed, shotgun. Im female and camp and travel alone sometimes, but follow my itinerary.
@@sandhiller49 the wasp spray is such a great idea because it's designed to spray a really long distance!
The deeper u go in the woods , you’ll find Bigfoot, we did and never go back deep in the woods again
Always carry! Even if I’m staying in a hotel. Safe then sorry!!
To be fair I should add your other tips are well taken. Avoidance, escape, resistance in that order.
Always pack heat no matter what! Is better to have it than needing it and not having it. There’s always bad people anywhere, everywhere. Better prepared and it’s not being paranoid. Playing safe!
Carry a couple of cans of wasp spray. The spray is a longer distance than pepper spray and is just as effective if not more.
Good video and agree, if you don’t want to take the time to be proficient with a firearm DON’t have one. Another bit of advice, if you are going to have a firearm for safety join USCCA (the insurance policy) this is a good idea even if you have one at home for personal protection. In today’s society if God forbid you ever have to use that gun for self defense right out the gate, right or wrong, you are automatically the bad guy until things get sorted out. USCCA tells you what to say and what not to say when law enforcement arrives and lawyers in your area to contact because you are going to need one. One more point, when you remote camp, during camp setup, always be parked pointing towards your exit. If you need to leave in a hurry, just leave. Forget for now all the material things you may be leaving behind, they can always be replaced.
Good video!! I have been a firearm carrier and user since i was 16. I travel the U.S. now in a motorhome but i am always loaded to the hilt. Several hand guns and a 45/70 rifle. Just my choices, but i will say to anyone who carries, if you are not prepared, in your mind and intent, to defend yourself to the maximum and the knowledge of when it is that situation, don’t carry. And by the way, those 30’ wasp/hornet sprays are very effective to an intruder. Whether it is animal or human. and not lethal.
I’ve had all four tires slashed while I was out fishing. Apparently I was fishing in someone’s spot.
Another buddy of mine had his SUV broken into while he was out hiking. They took all his gear.
I’ve had a pair of Sheriff’ deputies stop my group while hiking, and we were warned to make sure we carried a side arm while out in the Sierra’s hiking… “There’s very strange things happening out here.”
They advised us to at least carry a big knife. I carry a hiking stick.
Love your evasive commentary “I personally have one with me… Sometimes”. Keep them guessing. Same reason I would never wear it exposed on my hip. The element of surprise is too valuable.
I'm a lone camper, as remotely as my 4x4 allows me. I sleep under the stars with my sleeping bag inside a rainproof bivy bag, not in a tent. Especially vulnerable to both two- and four-legged predators that way. I sleep on my side, so to be immediately armed in either orientation I have a .45 on one side of me and a .357 magnum on the other, both concealed by the bivy layer but readily accessible to me. Nice feeling of security.
Thank you Donnie for sharing this very informative video on dispersed camping. I really enjoyed it. All the best to you and your dog. Take care out there. Be safe and stay Healthy. 🤗
OMG it was soooo good to come across your video. I have been deep woods camping for many years and the reason I go so deep is that I don’t care for being around those that destroy a campsite. The deeper ya go the cleaner things are typically. My thoughts on a gun are, I always have a large hand gun but, this is for protection from bears and cougars more than anything else. My advise to those new to to camping would be to start on UA-cam and get some knowledge, then start out in the paid campsites to learn to use that knowledge before getting so remote there is no one to help in a bad situation. Even it the Midwest plane states where there aren’t many trees can be dangerous if your not minimally prepared.
Firearms, it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it....you just never know.
Hi Donnie, love your channel Watched all of your videos. Inspired me to outfit my 09 legacy (unfortunately its a sedan and not the wagon) in a similar way. Already got the roof rack and basket on there with a bumper guard and led light bar. Going to be installing the lift spacers in a couple weeks. Still deciding on what I want to do for secure roof storage options. Hope you are staying safe. This is a great video on personal safety while camping. You never know what you'll run into in these days. Working on taking my build a step further to make my Subaru a full on bug-out vehicle. I always tend to have a firearm with me. Trained on them since I was a kid. You won't think you'll need it until you need it and don't have it. Keep up the good work, best wishes
A sedan can work fine. I did plenty of camping in my old Corolla. Don’t have to be able to sleep inside for it to be a good camping vehicle 👍
It's been about a year since this video was posted but I still hear conversations regarding firearms when camping. I typically just listen except when I feel that it's necessary to advise campers to not carry if they don't have appropriate training. It's a very personal decision.
In my case, I spend a good amount of time in the woods in dispersed camping areas. To be honest, I try to avoid improved campgrounds. I do carry but not for the risk from people. I frequently go to locations where the risk is more from 4 legged critters or slinkies with fangs. In my many years of camping I have only needed to resort to my fire arm twice. Once when I was actually chased by a badger and the other when a bear was intent on occupying my camp. I had a bear bell and bear spray. Neither impressed the bear. I carry a Taurus Judge in .357 Colt. The revolver also accepts .410 shotgun shells. When in the woods I keep the 1st two chambers loaded with the .410. I fired in the air away from the bear and that got his attention and he left.
The point is, that my firearm is a tool configured specifically for my woods/wilderness travels. Oh yeah, if you choose to carry be sure to know the local laws regarding carrying firearms. For example. I sometimes find myself in the Sierra Nevada's in California. I don't carry in CA. The laws are just too wonky. Besides that, it's my understanding that the Taurus Judge is illegal to possess in CA. So, do your homework.
If you are camping in improved areas and are considering carrying please make sure that you get proper training and follow the laws while traveling and while at your destination.
It's a .45 colt
Safety is very simple for me, I am prepared for any potential situation that may arise when I am in the middle of nowhere and when around people. All it takes is that one/first time and I do not want to be unprepared. Situations can happen with animals, people, weather and even a medical emergency. Just be prepared for anything an always have an exit strategy/plan for all. I have seen many fights, arguments and police being called at campgrounds; mostly because of alcohol intoxication. In the wilderness, my biggest issue has been with a huge ass mosquito this one time and he didn't do very well at the end!
I’m solo all the time, so I gutted the back of my Outback, so can stay sleep in my car, and have everything inside, at night. I have no problem. I camped thru a 2 day blizzard, last February, without heat. (Start up the car, for 5 min, to change cloths…) That way, I can lock the doors, if I want.
I don’t carry a gun, EVER… If you’re keeping it loaded, you get digging thru your gear, “bang”…
I keep a hatchet, covered with cardboard over the sharp edge… I wack someone with that, the edge is cutting thru…
The other thing I do is have motion sensor lights, around my camp. If someone comes in, I have warning…
I ran into a big grey wolf, in April. After that, I got bear mace. I keep that handy now, but, NEVER keep a gun, especially loaded…
Hi Donovan, new sub here. I've been hiking, camping, backpacking, now van living since age 10...now 74. Only once did I feel threatened and it was an encounter with a mountain lion in Arizona. All I did was raise my hiking poles and shouted. It turned and left me alone. However, it's the two legged animals I'm more wary of and using common sense and gut feeling helps me to avoid trouble. I now live in a van to travel wherever the compass points. I do carry a firearm safely secured just in case. I've traveled almost 4000 miles in the last two months and have yet to feel like I needed to use any kind of tool for protection, even when boondocking.
As someone who dispersed or primitive camps on a regular basis, I really like your opinion on firearms usage while doing so. You just got yourself a new follower.
I do carry when I'm out in the woods alone - which is most times I go. Like you, I have had more instrances of unpleasant people around than animals - except for one bear encounter that was very dicy. But, he walked away and I didn't have to shoot him.
I usually arrive into some area early, so I'm almost always the first person there. That said, number one Action Item is to pick a good solid, safe backstop, and shoot a rapid fire barrage into it so anyone within earshot knows I'm there - and armed. A couple more times during the sday to keep them aware, and another barrage just before dark.
If I hear a vehicle crunching around nearby, I sling arms so they see me if they go by. A friendly wave is exchanged and that's that.
"A Strong Fence Makes Good Neighbors."
1) it's good practice, and 2) the message is obvious.
Backpacking for over 50 years I never had a problem only wild animals Bears Mountain lions I like Backpacking in the late fall in winner so peaceful therefore you do not run in to no one not even hunters But I do carry like your videos
This day & time if you don't have a firearm & need it... You'll be praying you had one!! Protect yourself!!
If you really need a firearm, you will only have one chance to use it . Just like a parachute.
@Hitch11
made an excellent suggestion below about parking your car with the head lights facing your tent so you can illuminate the tent with the press of your key fob. That's a good one since your tent is what you are trying to protect most at night, and that would enable you to see an intruder as you came out to deal with him...if it doesn't scare them off immediately. I've also heard of people setting trip lines (fishing line is good) around the perimeter of their camp. If you use 4 of them rather than one continuous loop, you can attach cans or bells on each and know what direction someone is approaching from...20' or so before they get to you. I'm not paranoid, but I'm not in denial either. A little prep allows me to NOT spend my time worrying about that sort of thing. Anyway, thanks for the great idea, Hitch11. I'll use that one.
I am 65 and disperse camp alone (but with my dog) so I might make an easy target for wildlife, human or other. I've never had a problem. But I also have a Texas handgun license, am fully trained, and carry when I camp. I am also former military. But better have a gun and not need it than to need it and not have it.
Howdy young man. Nice video. Articulate but not opinionated. Here's a tip from an old wood rat. When I lived in my van I had 4 battery powered security lights with motion sensor on each corner of my roof. Not only did it show me deer, coons , coyotes and made the 2 legged vermin think I was aware of their presence. Even if I wasn't. I also pack a little sidearm for those who don't take no for an answer. I stopped once to help a stranded young lady and as I looked for the jumper cables l saw her boyfriend coming out of the brush.
LESSON LEARNED!!! Keep up the good work!!!
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I’ve actually been thinking about adding some security lights to my new camper van. Seems like it would be helpful even just to have walking around camp at night.
Hey Don.! Here's another camping hack. Harbor freight sells drive way alarms for you sound sleepers. Put a sensor in either side of the campsite in a tree. Put the buzzer or bell in the van. You'll hear it and wake up, they'll hear it and run . All battery powered 🤫
@@mikealvarado654 Eggs-cellent... Lights def a great idea, too.
@Slippery Storm the boyfriend figured no one would stop for him but most people would stop for a damsel in distress. I could have been robbed, carjacked or killed by the boyfriend.
... A "hiking stick" as I like to call it... 6' going from 3" at top to 2" (pointed) at bottom not only can be useful protection... against threatening animals but pole volting creeks, getting apples from trees... It also can be carved upon per adventure!
I've never seen someone suggest a stick, or even a sharp one. Secure your water, and you're basically good. Just looking for shelter.
im a land owner and sick of people who dont read the keep out signs .. 100 times a year i have to load up and go tell them get off my land or we go to the next level of aint comeing back from this one .. ive had them make gun threats . not seeing the 45 in my holster and the gun rack in my truck .. so its a 50/50 thing .. theres 1000000000,s of miles of places they can go off privat lands and have no problems and no one would ever bother them . here every winter we get millions of them and all the stores raise their prices sky high .. and the residents feel it and get hella madd about it and dont like them at all know them or not run them out .. i did like the vidio and its hit on a good subject .
what a great vid mate. Hope you're safe and well
I've been boondocking or dispersal camping for years before they were called that. Most times by myself and my preference has always been far back away from everyone with no problems, the few times I had bad situations has always been forced to stay in public campgrounds
i "social distanced" my whole life
Good, reasonable tips. I carry whenever I am out, my choice. I also keep bear spray around.
Taser guns are readily available online, too. But bear sprays are good for keeping someone at bay for a good distance.
U gave some sound advice. I'm 61 and I've traveled 90% of the lower 48 on hunting and camping trips for 35 yrs. I camp in dispersed sites 75% of the time. In 35 yrs I've never had any trouble. Zero. My guess is that most criminals think anyone brave enough to camp in remote places is likely prepared to deal with any problems. I also traveled with my dog for 10 yrs. She was an instant alarm, but didn't bark unless it was necessary. We traveled the entire western U.S camping.
Gun safety rule number one: Carry one.
Never know when you may need it.
With the magazine in the magazine well and chambered.
And keep your finger off the trigger until your intended target is sighted in.
Remain strapped or be counted amongst the clapped
@@patriotsedge6730 Yes sir. I couldn't agree more. One of the most useless things ever is unloaded firearm. And always, always, always carry one or more filled backup magazine and some extra ammo. That may sound excessive, but if you do encounter a situation where you need to use your firearm, statistics tend to show that you are going to end up firing several rounds. This is mostly due to a reduction of accuracy caused by fear and stress in the heat of the moment. It's not uncommon to miss with half or more of the shots fired.
Great advice Donnie, especially regarding different levels of protection. Have SOMETHING with you and be prepared to use it if you have to!
when i camping or boondocking camping, i have a little secert for outsiders, a thin copper wire around the whole area im camping at thats plugged into a 12 volt battery , the fuse is 2 amps and there are signs please do not enter area, , but at night your going to find out the hard way 2 amps will get your attention. and in yellowstone last year, i went trash can diving for the empty bear spray that people throw away, . i made them into air containers to scare the shit out of someone at night, or any bears or other animals drilled a 1/4' hole in the top of the can, air compressed in can 100 psi super glued a valve stem into the hole, place a party paper whistle super glued to the discharge hole and tied one end to the pull handle and the other around the whole area around my space with 15# mono fishing line, when someone or animals comes in NOISE FOR ALL.
I live in the country and I always feel we have a good safty plan and I have four dogs one time my service dog and my dogs are going. On the last walk and I saw a one hundred and fifty pound cougar he was huge and and living in the country I have learned more camping and wildlife safty I walk my dogs on a leash during the day when I work my mom walks my dogs during the day and pee pads have been a life saver because after sunset we have are pets and lifestalk and my service dog is able to hold it for long periods of time because of public access long airplane rides but living in the country you do need headlamp space heaters alarm that you pull in case of a emergancy and you should have a long leash for your dog to roam around the campsite and then keep them safe bring your dogs tags and portable doggie gear bring your dogs harness
I am going on my first car camping trip alone, I really don't have a choice so I am concerned but I really think I'm probably gonna be safer on the road than in the city! If I can do this trip then I might try it as a long term thing. I've lived my whole life cooped up in a home and now that rents are so high I can't afford to go get my own place. I'm not technically "homeless" but I am MISERABLE where I am living w/my mom,. I'm 46 yrs old and we don't like each other very much, so it's pretty horrible (lost everything before covid hit due to medical issues). I've got a channel too that I've already started w/my photography. I'm new to it (been doing it for a year or so) and got a settlement from a car accident that I'm getting any day now. I decided to take the small risk of that then staying here and just waiting to die...never going out and living!
Sounds relatable. How is it going? I saw you were exploring Boston recently
in a park i woke up to two guys going around stealing coolers and their contents disgusting behaviour
First time i heard that with coolers, were they just any coolers or expensive ones or ones with beer
If someone needs food i will just give it to them if i have some extra to give
There are many times i leave my cooler outside my car, unless i feel it was very unsafe there n there was thieves in the area i saw with the thief look n energy
All the times i camped n that was many times, whole summers at times, i only had one camp chair stolen n someone stole my friends backpack once
But like 3 times someone opened my tent n searched for something worth stealing, but i had nothing in there worth stealing, once they went through my duffle bag in there
Use a lock for your hitch and other things. Putting solar lights up, around the top of your camper or van, is a determent too. Also, you can always, hit the hazard button on your remote control to your car, that will make enough noise to get people up and looking around.
A taser, air horn and whistle are other good defense tools. When away from your site, put dog bowls out, even if you don't have a dog, and/or leave a radio playing. Have exterior lights, with motion sensors. There are also satellite phone devices for requesting emergency assistance or even send text messages. Carry a well stocked first aid kit that includes a snake bite kit. Wear gloves, boots and a hat. Also, a good walking stick/staff can come in handy.
I'm going on 67 and have been camping in mostly Washington State my whole life. RV, backpacking, truck, tent - every way but in a hammock. Things have changed. Anyone under 40 probably hasn't noticed, because theyare living in the New Normal, but I have. IMO, the changes have been much for the worse, and a couple of my LEO contacts have confirmed it: The "Homeless Industry" in the Seattle/Portland corridor has spawned a secondary wave of persons who are the worst of the worst, and have been "exiled" from the encampments in the cities. Where do they go? To the woods.
In the last 10 years, I have encountered some very sketchy individuals - and couples, or groups of three or more - "camping" in dispersed areas that used to be empty or occupied by like minded people who were open and friendly. I make it a point to be seen - and be seen armed if they move in after I've set up. Of the three incidents where that has happened, all three persons didn't stay. Other spottings were a ways off from me, and I didn't have any problems, but I eye-balled them good and hard on the way past. I have a certain look, I'm told. But, I'm not the tough guy I used to be, so I take no chances.
Anymore, a firearm is standard equipment when I'm alone, or with just a small group of maybe two or three. I don't have bear spray, but that would be a good start, too.
@HistoryBuff They also have drive-thru visits by local County Sheriff deputies when they can get a spare bit of time. keeps the riff-raff from staking out ground. Talking with those guys is how I learned of the worst types moving intothe trailheads and camping areas.
Nicely done....very informative and open-minded safety tips. Thanks!!!
I always carry a firearm when I'm wandering around. And in 30 years of wandering, have only had to pull it out once. My advice- have a good, well-secured lockbox for it. And know the state CCW reciprocity laws where you are going. And have fun camping! The farther out you are, the less wierdos.
To go unarmed into a wilderness that contains wild animals and potentially wild people is extremely naive and careless with your own life and the lives of others. You never need a gun - til you need it. And there’s no worse feeling than that sinking feeling in your stomach when you suddenly realize some shit is about to go down - and you and possibly your loved ones (who look to you to protect them) are completely unarmed and helpless.
Great Video! My sidearm just helps me feel safe! I have a lifetime permit to carry, thank goodness. Glad you talked about it.
How do you get a lifetime permit. All I know is mine was good for two years.
Which state do you live in for lifetime permit , I'm from Missouri and there you can get a lifetime permit for $500 but I'm currently in Arizona
Keep up the good work. You've earned my subscription
The first video I've watched of yours. Good advice thank you! PS I subscribed and liked and am looking forward to move vids. Save travels Donnie!
I think it's important as someone else has mentioned to set up for two people rather than make it look like your by yourself.
I am a BSA Scoutmaster and we camp at least once a months with the youth. We always have at least 2 trained adult leaders (BSA minimum requirment) and usually 3 to 5 with around 5 to 10 youth. We rarely camp in regular campgrounds doing mostly dispersed camping or back country camping like the AT and river trips, well past cell phone range. The only thing that hasever worried me are critters of the2 legged variety and those of the no legged variety way out in the woods and all of us adult leaders keep some form of protection to keep the youth safe.
Rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it
Being an Ex-LEO, I always felt safer with a firearm. So I always carried one and a 6 inch knife in the outdoors. I was more worried about wild animal attack than human. Of course my German Shepherd was a good companion.
I was a live in logging site watchman. One day, I was outside, connecting my trailer batteries to a charger. I heard a stick snap. I went back inside. A full grown Mountain Lion walked by.
When I hiked the Silver Moccasin trail in CA, I used a side arm to dispatch a rattle snake. It was either me of him... Being able to protect yourself is a good thing. I also carry bear spray and a great big knife when in the woods. You might get me in the end, but I'm going down fighting.
We shouldn't have to worry so much about safety, but its the smart thing to do. I always carry a knife. A nice big stick will handle most critters and my shotgun will handle the others. Mostly they just need to be scared off. But people, they are different, some you just can't trust. My pistol keeps them honest and me safe. Smile, be friendly, but know the law and practice.
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When camping I take a 38 special and a 12 gauge shotgun. And I trip wire alarm the perimeter. And I sleep with one eye open.
@Vernon Anderson Nope. Just a realist.
@vernon maybe paranoid in your neck of the woods but in my woods, we have bears. And junkies. They are equally curious and stupid and will try they damnest to tear open your tent or vehicle looking for something worth taking.
A 12 Guage will do quick work to both.
Although I prefer a .45 over a .38.
I'm 58, camped with my family as a kid and with my husband as an adult. We lived full time traveling in our RV for three years. We didn't carry a gun for protection. We did have a rifle, unloaded, wrapped in blankets under the seat to keep it safe because we had no house to leave it at.
I will say that we are always alert and aware of our surroundings and so are our dogs ;)
Always carry, I don't like snakes and bears. I'm going to start living in a motorhome and I will protect myself and wife.
Not just snakes and bears………😜
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I don’t worry about snakes and bears, I worry about turkeys
i tented close to a stream one time and awoke to a hunter 10 feet from my tent ; he was shooting a deer. i greeted him with my pistol in hand. TOO DARN CLOSE!
I believe in self defense vehemently. I also believe that unless you intend to shoot someone never brandish a firearm until its' use is imminently required. A simple hunter not practicing safe distancing is not a reason to greet with a weapon, even if you (or I) feel that he deserved it.
some people have no camp manners at ALL
@@rasalas2x he's gotta weapon,, i gotta weapon,, you can NEVER be sure of the other person intentions
Bear spray, yes! That’s what I said. lol! If you’re not comfortable with a firearm, please don’t carry one. Also, another good one is Hornet/wasp spray. Thank you for the tips! I personally carry a firearm and bear spray, but I’m also a solo female while camping, so I feel more comfortable with more protection. While Boondocking, I worry more about predatory animals than humans.👀 snakes and spiders 😂 I live in bear country, so being bear aware is imperative. But wild cats..... that’s my biggest fear. (And I’m a crazy cat lady😂😂😂).
My compact 9 mm goes with me every time I backpack or Boondock. It's best to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
When I hear shooting, many times I signal back with my gun. Like saying, hey, people over here, don't shoot in this direction.
Definitely makes would be attackers proceed in the opposite direction.
That made me chuckle a little bit because I live in the city. I could only imagine the look on my neighbors faces if I did that every time the local gangbangers started making noise.
Would probably help with the taxes though. We have a lot of New York yuppies moving in jacking up the cost of living lol.
A large imposing dog is a pretty good deterrent to intruders
@ColtDeltaElite10mm an ak47...dude seriously why would you need that camping. Smh
@@dany-lgoten2273 Is that you Joe?
@@stevenreynolds2327 lol...maybe
My blue nose will scare the shit outta anybody he meets . weve been ran up 3x in 2 different states in a year and all 3 times whatever those people had planned , changed as soon as they seen my bully . anorher thing thats scary ia a machete
GREAT VIDEO! You presented the issue of firearms perfectly. Personally, I choose to carry for my own safety. A medium-large dog is the perfect camping companion for safety. Bear Spray is great to ward off nuisance animals, but not aggressive animals determined to do you harm. Like you say, people are the biggest problem when camping. I too like to go deep distancing myself from all the shenanigans. I've never really had any bear problems with Black Bears. However, Grizzly Bears are born with a "chip on their shoulder" and will help themselves to you and whatever you have.
if you are easily frightened, maybe staying home is your best choice. most folks i know follow the boy scout motto. always be prepared. by preparing for any and all possible threats, people can enjoy their solitude outdoors without fear.
Shotgun(pump) is the best way to protect yourself. Buddy camping is a good way to protect yourselves. If your girl friend doesn’t like camping you don’t want her or him. Not to be mean but you won’t be able to get them to change.
You laid out your thoughts well. No gun here. I backpack in New England and we don't have large predators like grizzlies to worry about. I've never felt particularly unsafe while hiking/sleeping in my car and I am not interested in the responsibility nor weight of carrying a gun. Frankly the big danger is just driving to get to these wonderful places. Nice channel!
My family owns property on a popular trout stream. I've had TWO MEN attack me in the last two years. One tried to brain me with a large rock. The other announced his intention before commencing his attack.
Go on our own property unarmed? NEVER AGAIN. And that's on OUR OWN PROPERTY.
You go on public lands? Ther'es CRAZY PEOPLE out there, man.
@@notmyname3883 your trout must truly be sought after to attract such terrible men. I’m sorry for your burden. Like I said I feel fairly safe wherever I go and don’t feel the need for a gun. Not to mention I’d have to be competent enough to use it in a high adrenaline situation - who knows how that would go? Clearly in your situation you have need of firearms. I am glad your guns will keep you safe from trout bandits.
@@RhodySeth You make a very rational argument for not going armed. Myself I just have never felt comfortable without a firearm, I have experience in combat due to my years in Afghanistan, so I feel more than comfortable in such situations. However, if one isn't proficient you can easily find yourself in deep trouble, you may use the weapon out of panic or fear and kill someone just wanting to say hi..So I agree, if for whatever reason you don't feel comfortable leave the firearm at home.
Aside from my firearm(s) I bring perimeter alarms when I solo camp in backcountry. Usually the loud sound of a blank going off will scare off most threats but in case it doesn’t you can address the issue at hand as you’ve been woken up.
I'm part of the new solo lady van life, for 3 yrs now. At 73 & feisty [having survived 3 abusive relationships, I WILL shoot 1st, then ask questions...], safety was a concern. He's correct about dispersed camping dangers versus campground dangers. I host horse camps for Oregon State Parks. Bear spray or hornet spray is a good idea.
A flare gun is legal everywhere... And a NASTY person will back away FAST when pointed at crown jewels. Also BB guns... I have a Glock 19 Air pistol that shoots at 410 fps. Air guns/BB guns are also legal just about everywhere...
Some you tubers and others have stated their carrying of concealed weapons for self defense. Those who travel multi-state would wisely study and memorize the various laws as each state has rules which could land them in jail with a felony record many miles from home. I have watched several full timers being greeted by police and all have been friendly fans. However, it only takes one statement of carried firearms witnessed by one not so friendly officer to ruin one's life. Everyone should be careful about statements or displays which may be legal when and where expressed but criminal in another state.
Yes and no, how much do you value your life!?!? So, because some tyrannical Oath breaking anti-American traitor crook politician has said once you Cross whatever BS imaginary boundary line you lose your God given Constitutionally protected Right to protect yourself that means just roll over and die??.
No thanks, I'll continue to exercise My God given Rights, and worry about any ILLEGAL unConstitutional overreaching BS Consequences after I am still breathing...
After living in a mostly free State with Constitutional Carry for the last 5 years I can never, Ever see going without the ability to protect my family and myself again. Even if I ever travel back to the beautiful, yet Horribly runny by an Illegitimate, tyrannical anti-American overreaching govt, Mtns of upstate NY..
@@BabyCharlotteschannel you sound like somebody that worrys about the what ifs to much buddy . hope that person you pull your piece on isnt about that life cause shit might go south real fuckin quick
We have bear spray.. and armed to the teeth. CA is a "castle" state and that includes your tent or camper. We don't trust it to just one firearm however great it is....and we take them with us when we go places...