From the music to the way you speak to the way you dress as well as the gun itself is simply awesome and so unique. Man never change for anything or anyone
That matte black finish is definitely thirsty, but does get better over time. I love my matte black 856, and my 608 8 shot 357 Magnum with the 8 3/3 inch barrel!!! It's my hunting pistol!!!
A decent weight revolver like this being chambered in .38 Special+P really is about as good as it gets for concealable revolver perfection. Sometimes it's difficult mentally to carry .38 Special+P in a .357 Magnum chambered revolver (when you always think that you _could_ go more powerful with .357 Magnum ammo), when the truth of the matter is that the .38 Special+P is the _perfect_ cartridge for a medium weight snubby revolver. My 605 is so smooth now, just today I took the side plate off and let some CLP soak in there before cleaning the excess out. I just got back from the store with that pocket holster and my 605 in it. Thanks for the revolver content!
@@LionquestFitness I had to look up what that was. No, I haven't read that but someone on YT, about a year ago gave me a digital copy of No Second Place Winners, if that's what Bill Jordan's book is called.
I have been always a revolver guy mainly because of it's simplicity,and ease of concealment.This is by far the best video, and I have learned a great deal watching them.Thank you.Keep on posting.
Heck yeah! BTW - did you notice the Rough Rider get-up? I watched the TNT Rough Riders movie from 1997 with Sam Elliot, Gary Busey and Tom Berringer the morning before I filmed that. I still would like to see an Arizona Ghostrider's segment on ole Teddy and his boys.
I don't know how I missed this video. I love to watch all your vids! They are very informative, and you're a great teacher. I've owned an 856 for going on 2 years now...it's a real smooth shooter! However it's a matte black version, and it started out exactly like you said... dry, and stiff as heck! I did a lot of oiling, and working the controls and action. Now it's perfect! Taurus represents a tremendous value in the handgun market. As always...thanks for a great video!
hey there im going to get the concealed hammer 856 2inch barrel and try the desantis nemesis pocket holster and owb holster for the sp101 3inch 327 i have a hat like that with chin strap for yard work on hot sunny days here in seneca
I'm seeing a lot more positive videos on Taurus revolvers lately. Looks like I am going to have to buy one for myself. I've shot a few but never owned one.
I used to own a couple back in the eighties. They were closer to S&W's then and shot well. I don't know about their airweights, but I've had good luck with their steel snubbies. Plus, I don't have to worry about marring a finish because I'm carrying them hiking or camping. Thanks for stopping by!
@@buffalosoutdoors Maybe not better, but different. You have a sturdier gun now that can handle Plus P, but I miss things like a serrated trigger and the other small details that went into crafting revolvers in the seventies and early eighties.
I have the 856 now and took your advice and oiled it on the outside and the outside moving parts with Outers Oil and it made a difference. I won't take the side plate off because I've never done it. I have shot it and it's definitely a great shooter. I also have clp but I think the Outers got inside under the plate when I oiled the hammer opening. I let it sit and then wiped off the excess. Getting smoother. Great Video thank you!!
I have the Model 85 for hiking/camping/backpacking and it's perfect for the role. Mine is Matt black an yes it feels dry, but in my dry dusty west Texas environment it's perfect.
Since I already have few S&W revolvers, I gave my 605 and 92 AFS to my son in law and daughter as my personal wedding gifts. I always consider Taurus as top notch guns , that getting a beautiful vintage in almost mint condition AFSd PT 92 from an old friend made me forgot what I lost. I really appreciate your video. You are so sincere and consistent.
I started out 30 years ago with a Taurus model 83 .38 special in stainless matte finish 4 inch six shot revolver. That gun was the Taurus answer to the Smith & Wesson model 19. Now gone and discontinued years later I had a Taurus 605 stainless which I ended up selling to my dad around seven years ago. Currently have a stainless Taurus 856 and love it. Keep it as an optional carry rig with 3 speed loaders. Have owned several semi autos from Taurus throughout the past three decades as well and they were all dependable reliable solid firearms too....... LOVE my G2C 9mm and carry it often...
I have my original 85 I bought in the early 1990's. I took that out a few weeks ago with a friend thinking maybe I might sell it as I have 4 more snubs. That old thing shot like a dream. I fired point shooting from the hip with it and hit 3 shots in a 3 inch group at about 5 yards. Needless to say I didn't sell it. I have a newer 85 made about 2013. Took my son(who was about 15 at the time) shooting with it and it was the first time he ever fired a handgun and he was doing 3 inch groups at 7 yards. They are amazingly accurate guns. I collect 1970s Smith and Wesson revolvers so obviously I am biased toward those. However, I have to admit that the Taurus revolvers shoot just as well. If you are looking for an inexpensive revolver you can bet your life on, try out a Taurus.
I bought one of the last 85's made for my youngest daughter. It's a very good shooter. The first few 856's weren't bad, but they gave up some weight for six cylinders, which compromised the ability to run Plus P through them on a regular basis. Although, the only problem I had was the cylinder screw backing out; which locktite took care of. Now they are advertising the 856 as Plus P, so they've made some further adjustments. Good post by the way.
I have 10 new and old S&W revolvers. I have one old 1973 Colt Detective Special. I also have a Ruger Bearcat .22 LR single action blued with real Elk stag grips. Back in the early 90s I once had a stainless Taurus model 85 with factory wood grips I kicked myself for ever selling. In more recent years I wanted another Taurus model 85 to replace my old one I never should have sold. I discovered it had been discontinued and ended up buy a 856 blued/black instead. I liked it so well I ended up getting 4 of them total with 2 blued/black and 2 stainless. I changed the grips on all of them to Pachmayr G-10, VZ Operator II G-10, Altamont Super Walnut checkered boot grips and the same wood finger groove made in Thailand custom grips Lionquest Fitness used. Instead of using tape to make them fit I bedded them with epoxy made for bedding in the action on rifles while accurizing them. The factory rubber grips all got put into the boxes for storage. When I need a revolver that isn't vintage, expensive or collectable I use these Taurus 856s. They serve that purpose very well and you are more apt to carry it. They work well while fishing, working on a vehicle or while working outside on your property. They make a great John Deere tractor gun because they can't be knocked out of battery like a semi-auto should someone charge up on you suddenly. If they try they will have a bullet through their hand. The same sliding out from working under a vehicle, or under the hood. You turn around only to discover someone came into your garage or barn and is right on top of you. I have many many semi-auto pistols, but my revolvers still have their place.
I bought mine brand new in 1990 wholesale for $145 Danger Man. It had the black cardboard box with gold print. I originally sold it for the same reason most of you other guys have. I got these Smith & Wessons, Colt and Ruger....what do I need this thing for anymore?! Truth be told it was nearly as nice and much much cheaper.
I was planning on talking to the local Taurus dealer about this revolver tomorrow. Talk about a timely video! I have an older S&W Model 36, a 70’s Model 60, and a 1953 Colt Detective Special. The Colt’s 6 round capacity is definitely noticeable while shooting, and I do carry them all. The local dealer lists the 856 stainless for $261, so I’ll give it a whirl. Thanks Greg!
Lionquest Fitness The Colt DS is from 1953, the S&W Model 36 is a 1957, and the Model 60 is a 1972. They’re all in great condition, so I don’t shoot them very often. Getting a Taurus would give me more range time with a snubnose. Thanks again, Greg.
Have been very pleased with my Model 85. After first seeing this video when you posted it, I purchased the 856. Absolutely love it! The more rounds fired, the better it gets. Can’t wait for the 3 inch version! Just enjoyed watching this video again. Appreciate all of your wonderful info and demonstrations, Greg!
Great video. Before I ever buy a handgun, I always look for holsters first - and I was worried because I couldn't find Any holsters. I really want the 856 Defender! I have a Galco Paddle Lite holster, for my S&W 36, w/3" barrel and I think the Defender would fit it. I prefer a sturdy holster, but beggers can't be choosers. I've owned that little J frame for 46 years, and Taurus pistols since '01. I think the 856 Defender will be the Last handgun I buy.
Just remember - the Defender has a K-frame cylinder on a beefed up J Frame. It may fit the paddle lite holster, but being leather, it will stretch it out. Having said that, your best bet would probably be a three inch holster for an SP101 or a S&W Model 60, since they are heavier and thicker to handle .357.
I had one 85 and the 605... just ordered another 605, was actually about to order a Bond Arms roughneck 2 shot 357 then thought heck for a few bucks more I can just get the 605 which I did! But yeah much as I like derringers there just no good in today's age to be a daily carry but still beats nothing if it's all you had
Have had a mod 85 for years, love it. But 6 rounds was tempting so recently a picked up the mod. 856 and it is quickly moving up the favorites list. Good video Greg and a great hat.
I just picked up a black 856 yesterday for $140. It's heavier than my keltec p11 but it feels lighter in the pocket. Feels like a brand new Smith and Wesson. Was scared of the short ejector but it's much more slick than any .357 smith I've shot. Didn't have time to put targets up but I fired 6 to test function and the trigger is fantastic.
Thank you for your review of the Taurus 856 revolver and comparison with others. Really appreciate you recommendations especially the ones referencing holsters.
Thanks Rich. It is not always one size fits all. Everyone is unique, but I try to lay it out the best that I can see it. Everyone can't afford an expensive gun, and truth be known; often times those more expensive guns are not any better and sometimes worse than what people call budget guns.
Love my 85 UL SS. When I need another I’ll get the 856. Love the extra round and like you I’ve had luck with my Taurus revolvers and semiautomatic handguns. Good video ad always.
That brings up another point. I've had good luck as well with their semi-autos. It kills me to say this, but if I had to choose between the Shield and the Taurus G2; I'd have to choose the G2.
I agree it is a very accurate and easy gun to shot. It’s got good capacity and easy to carry. I just picked up a S&W model 66-3. Had the wood grips but I put some hogue grips on to improve the grip for me. Any ideas of a good IWB and OWB holster. You’re a big revolver guy. Sure you have ideas.
Yeah I have that holster in brown for my 8 shot 22 mag since it has adjustable sights I cut one layer of that elastic off the adjustable sights were really snug. Removed one layer of elastic and bingo.
Uncle Dan - You've got what I call "Farm Smarts." It used to amaze me how my stepdad could piece a car, an appliance or a construction job together using make shift parts. As he said, when growing up on the farm back in the day there weren't any Tractor Supply, Walmart or ACE Hardware available. You had to learn to improvise and work with what you had.
I can't believe I bought another Taurus revolver. But this time I took your advice and bought an all steel one. Matte stainless steel, it shot very well for me and I hope it holds up.
The Taurus 856 stainless steel wonderful handgun for concealed carry or in your house lightweight loaded 17 Oz the other thing is if you notice a lot of features look like a Smith & Wesson handgun that's because Schmidt used to have a factory in Brazil he is back so tourists took it over and that's why they have auto parts that resemble a Smith but the thing is they make very good guns the labor's cheap down there so they could afford to sell it cheap a lot of police have this gun and stainless steel as a backup gun it works every time you could also handle plus paying it but I would suggest just use regular 38 special and it copper plated tips much better than the lead tips you can go wrong with it check it out it beats a smitten West then the price is like double or triple and a j frames are really junk today if you look at both of them you'll see the difference how well made this gun is
Well, what I'm going to say will not endear me to S&W fans, and I count myself one, but the quality is just not there anymore like it was back in the early eighties. Taurus actually makes better shooting revolvers these days.
Hi Al - they aren't bad looking as long as you aren't comparing them to a older S&W or Taurus, they run well and they don't cost a lot. It is a lot easier on the mind to pack one of those as opposed to one of my older S&W's.
@@LionquestFitnessThank you Greg. Well, again for the 2nd time this week I have had to open UA-cam in a Windows Edge browser to comment. There is no option in my Google Chrome to comment. Odd that's happening within 2, Google products.
@@Me2Lancer I don't know Rich. I've been using Edge for awhile. I can't access a lot of the online work I assign my students on Chrome. Also Edge gives you a cleaner screen look. But then some searches work on Chrome, but not Edge. I think the big tech companies have gotten bigger than they can control.
@@LionquestFitnessThanks for those comments Greg. One reason I like to use Chrome is that on some UA-cam video by certain individuals I've had problems with distorted aspect rations in Edge that don't exist in Chrome.
Yes sir, love the hat. I've got one very similar to yours. I also just picked up a Taurus 856 Ultra Lite with a concealed hammer. It works great in my right front pocket. Its a bit of a bulge but so is my phone that's in the left pocket. It sure weighs less than my all steel 856. Taurus products are getting better and better. Great video my friend.
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The reason Taurus revolvers cost more than they did a few years ago is because of the new factory in Georgia. They also bought and are using new state of the art CNC equipment so quality is up and they reinstated their lifetime warranty. Not only the lifetime warranty but they pay the shipping both ways and get it back to you in 4 - 6 weeks once again. You aren't going to find a Taurus revolver especially the 856 for less than $300 ever again.
@@LionquestFitness I think it is more like a GLOCK and formally Sig Sauer type arrangement. Some parts are still made in Brazil while other parts are made in Georgia. Pretty sure the final assembly takes place in Georgia. You can definitely see a increase in quality if you look at new production guns.
Another good video. I saw the 856 and really liked it. One other Taurus I saw that I liked was the 692 since it comes in a 3 inch barrel. It also has a 9mm cylinder you can swap out for it. I noticed you were wearing suspenders. I actually went to ankle holsters for when I wear suspenders. I don't like how the gun feels loose if Im not wearing a belt. One other thing. Your videos got me motivated to work on open handed self defense. I bought a wavemaster and filled it with sand and started working on blocks and strikes.
When I bought a 605, I noticed that the 85 had been replaced with the 856. That made me pause a bit before going with the 605 anyway. Six 38s can beat five 357s if you can't handle the blast and recoil of the 357. Your groups are decent even in the rain. My last outing, I would need much bigger hands to cover my groups! LOL.
I do like steel for Taurus small-frame revolvers such as the 85 and 856. That said, my mom has an 85 Ultra-Lite I gave her that shoots pretty well. I'm actually planning to acquire an UL 856 sometime in the near future. It should complement my steel 856, as well as my other snubs.
Brother I couldn't agree more about poly revolvers, if you are looking for one to just load and carry and NEVER shoot it unless it's a life or death situation then to each his own I gues but it's just not a built to last design, I will however say there was a time when I had the same opinion on autoloaders and that has changed so maybe someday it might work but we are not there yet with Revolvers.
Greg I just bought a matte black 856. I took a chance because there's no key lock this time like my 85. I had trouble grabbi g, drawing and shooting my Glock 43 accurately. I never expected to shoot the Glock 43 as well as my Glock 19 gen3. So I traded the G43 away on the 856UL. I took it to the range and did well with it. Taurus must've watched your 856 video about being dry, mine was oozing oil out of the crane area and the cylinder release area.
Get a T617 but I wish that gun would have 856 grip frame instead of a judge grip frame because the grip selection available for the 856 is very nice. A T617 with a 3" barrel would also be sweet. Nice thing about the T617 is that it is a 7 shot and shoot 357 although I wouldn't recommend 357 as your practice rounds in that gun cause it's too light at 26 oz. The minimum weight frame you need to comfortable shoot 357 is an L Frame or an N frame. Then you can shoot 357 all day with those but theyre on the heavy side.
There is a time and place for every firearm. For the average daily carry in America, unless you live in a high crime area or in a remote rural area, I don't buy that a five shot revolver is optimistic.
I like the idea of ammo compatibility with a 9mm semiautomatic. Would a Taurus 905 9mm revolver be much less controllable than a Taurus 856 .38 special loaded with wadcutters? What are your thoughts on a Taurus 905 revolver?
Thank you for your comprehensive and informative videos I appreciate, that you share your personal experiences I will be purchasing a Taurus 856 vs 605 in 2024 ….. I do have a Taurus 605 poly - I have had no issues- but I donot fire 357 or heavy 38 thru it QUESTION- what is your opinion on a Taurus 3inch barrel 856 vs Taurus 856 Snubby for EDC-? …….. my shooting arm has good and bad days and looking for positive advantage that I can obtain ……..my economics will not allow me to purchase a Ruger SP101 Thank you
I haven't made a purchase yet on a three inch 856, so I am just guessing on this, but if you are looking for more of a do all handgun, concealed carry, home defense, target practice etc., I'd go with the three inch.
I absolutely love this pistol!!! Mine is the heavier blued 856, not the ultra. It is everything I've always wanted in a snubby, reasonably accurate, decent trigger, comfortable for IWB, 6 shots and much less cost than others. I wear mine in a leather S&W model 10 IWB I had.Glad to see your review of it, sure doesn't get as much love as it should.
Hello Greg. Here's an update on my all steel Taurus 856. So far so good. The only problem I have 38 special ammo is going for almost $30 for a box of 50 and it's FMJ ammo. I have a Taurus 942 on order which is the same gun in 22 lr. I enjoy shooting double action revolvers more than my other guns. I can't get small pistol primers to reload and all my handguns require small primers except for my 1911 in 45acp which I have a lot of primers for.
I don't know if this helps or not, but I've been ordering my .38's from Georgia Arms. It's a little more, but the ammo is very consistent and they also have self-defense rounds.
Thank you Gregg. As you know,I have been waiting for this video! Any chance we can see a side by side of the 856 and the 85? No one up here has them in stock, so... I will definitely be getting one, and hope that Taurususa offers them in the 3" bbl here, SOON!
I'd debated that, so since you asked, I will do one in a couple of weeks. I'll throw the 605 in there as well. I already had something planned for the next video.
Good show thanks for the info.. I lately picked up a Glock 33 from a police supply shop. It was a A.L.E. turn in. I have been E.D.C. it for the past month and gave my 1962 colt cobra a rest.
As much as I love the old classics I collect, I tend to carry newer firearms more utilitarian that can be replaced. That Glock 33 is a interesting gun. That's a lot of firepower in a subcompact with the .357 Sig. But, if you're getting your shots where you want them, you've got an excellent defensive firearm.
Oh it is a very accurate gun. I also reload 357sig so range ammo is cheap for me. I carry corbond 125gr 357sig in it. Like you say the classics are wonderful guns. But god forbid if ever in a shooting they will be dusted and put in evidence room and when you get it back may have rust on it. Also you have to find another gun to CCW. A Glock in that case can be replaced in a second as they are every where. I also CCW a Glock 36 and Glock 27. Now my off duty back up is a Glock 23 but it is not carried much lately. I only carry it in my county I work in so Im covered by my dept.
@@500mos You know - I was mulling over this this morning. Back when I started in L.E. in the eighties; you carried a six shot revolver and if you carried off duty, it was usually a five shot Chief's Special. For the average person who doesn't carry large sums of money, doesn't live in a high crime area, or who doesn't live in a very rural area; a J frame snubbie is still a good option. But, once you get into security or L.E. work or live in a rough area; the odds change.
Man in the 1980s I had got out of the Army. I always carried a Colt series 70 1911 that I got from a Major on my post. It went all over with me than I traded it.
Carried a revolver most of my security work days. I like them. Problem i did not like is slow to reload if needed. Even with speed loaders. And in a 6 shot the speed loader in your jeans pocket is like carrying another cylinder. And even slower yet to reload when trying to get loader out of pants pocket. But even with that being said, the Taurus 856 or even the EAA Windicator in 357 mag with a 2 inch barrel does make for a nice concealed carry package. And very tempting to get.
I concur on the speedloader. I keep looking out for dual speedloader pouches that don't cost an arm and a leg for wearing on my belt. They used to make a type that set on the top of the belt, so that they didn't protrude out as much.
@@LionquestFitness those were/are from Sarfariland if they still make them. Also try Don Hume and El paso Saddlery. But like you said, they are not cheap.
I just picked up a black 856 (as a Christmas gift),for a relative. Her husband shoots all sorts of guns, she does not. I'll likely give her a cylinder full of my girlfriend's 90 grain Hornady CD hollow points. My relative's husband can reload some light recoil fmj's for her. All of that said, this revolver will likely end up as a paperweight. I'm reminded of when two other relatives purchased.(in the 1990's) a Rossi snub nose, and an SKS for my grandmother. Both saw fewer than 10 rounds through them in a 15-20 year period. 😝
A great review. In the end we are lucky many great choices. Sort of like an ice cream place with 37 flavors. After waiting on line for 20 minutes the guy says next and the person in front of you can't decide. It can well be my wife. Far from an expert. I bought the 856 in stainless in april of 2024. Mine says Bainbridge,Ga (Georgia) it does not say made in USA. Why I don't know. Black being dry-I don't know. No one reads INSTRUCTIONS. I didn't either . I usually says to clean and lube a new gun. My stainless 856 had plenty of oil on it. Break it in? Some say 500 rounds. That is a lot of money. I pumped the ejector rod a few thousand times while watching TV. I opened and closed the cylinder around 500x. I stored it with the hammer pulled back reducing the power of the new spring. Then I cleaned and lubed it. Mine shoots great. I have no way to measure but seems the trigger pull has dropped. Mine works great.
I have no issue with Taurus semi-auto pistols, I own two. I have concerns about the metallurgy/MIM parts of a Taurus revolver. There are anecdotes of broken transfer bars on the first trip to the range. The designs are great. If only I could trust their quality control, I would love to own an 856 and a 692.
All I can speak of is my experience. I've had five now that have all worked fine and they've certainly had their share of rounds put through them. I hadn't heard the broken transfer bar stories. However, the transfer bar is similar to the Ruger's as opposed to S&W. It sits loose in the channel and may rattle slightly when the gun is turned side to side. That may be the source of the broken transfer bar anecdotes.
@@LionquestFitness I thank you for your work. This video is the first of yours that I have seen. I've been eyeing the 856 and the polyprotector for a while. I had not heard of the issues with the poly.
@@traumajock Some people swear by the Polymer revolvers and say they've never had problems with them. One of the problems with light weight revolvers is the blast of energy that comes from the forcing cone, which is why 9mm has such a greater pressure than .38. You lose a lot of energy due to the physical mechanics of a revolver. That is why I believe the polymer frames don't hold up well. An all steel revolver absorbs that energy much better.
Great video! I came real close to buying a 856 awhile back but the money wasn't there at the time. I regret missing the opportunity. I ended up going a different route and got a Beretta Pico, but I'm still interested in the 856
Watch the support hand index finger. Bad habit getting it that far forward especially when transitioning to 357 and beyond. Otherwise excellent video. Mine (a 605) had to get a new cylinder but otherwise is awesome.
I'm not going to contradict you, other than to say I've been shooting like that for years now with no problems with both .38 Plus P and .357. Depending on your hand and finger size it could be a problem, but for me it is not. I don't teach new shooters to do that or recommend it for anyone else, but for me it works.
Well I knew it was just a matter of time before I would see the 856 in action on Lionquest Fitness! The 856 is high on my wish list. I think Taurus brought it back just to compete with the Colt Cobra which is also very high on my list. Once I save enough money to get the 856 it’s going to be very hard to wait to save more money for the Cobra. As always, great shooting! BTW, do you know if 856 and 85 grips are interchangeable? Thanks
And that is the thing. I have older Smiths that are good to very good quality, but they don't make guns like that anymore. The new Smiths are expensive and the QC is not always there. I can buy a Taurus that is utilitarian and functional, and I don't have to worry about losing, ruining or wearing out one of those classic Smith's I collect.
I have an older model 85 that is a 6 shot and have had no issues and its steel. Also had the poly protector and didn't like it. Might get this 856 seen where RK guns has them for 199 after rebate. Good price and the hat is cool
Hi Scott - I've owned two of the 85's, two of the 605's and now the 856. They've all been solid, reliable and accurate guns. LOL - I can't say the same about the Polyprotector I owned. Taurus seems to work well with the tried and true - the PT92, and the revolvers in an all steel frame. Although, the G2C has definitely been a popular gun this past couple of years.
@@LionquestFitness yes sir I agree on the revolvers. Have a G2C that so far has been great. Just got the Spectrum just to see if it works. Not impressed with the spectrum so far. And Buffalo outdoors did a vid on the TX22 by Taurus and it seems good.
Thanks! We'll see on the Ultimate Carry. The jury is still out. They're nice looking guns. I haven't held one yet. If I spend that kind of money on an airweight, it will probably be on the Kimber six shoot though.
One more thing... I haven’t heard anything but good things about those Blackhawk speed holsters with the elastic on top.think it would work with my S&W 66-2,2.5 inch ?if so it would be nice to see it on your belt in a future video .thanks & take care
thank you sir. every time I see you handle a mod. 605 , I have to liberate mine from the safe and ask myself , how come I don't carry this baby ? ...dang, I think I will ! .
Lionquest Fitness not that a little rain bothers much, but I was sort of glad the new model 10 wasn’t out there. Although, it is pouring rain here (T S Barry) and I’ve got mine on. 😀
would you ever recommend a revolver for a security guard duty weapon, and if so, which one? i like the taurus 692 with the 2 cylinders (357 and 9mm), it is a 7 shot revolver!
Robert - a lot of it depends on what type of security you are doing. Some more dangerous jobs, such as an armored car driver would require higher capacity. For many security jobs though, a S&W Model 64, a S&W 686, a Taurus 82 or 65, or the gun you mentioned would work fine. Make sure you train with the gun and company policy allowing; I'd carry speed loaders.
@@LionquestFitness thanks, i was just considering, something not so dangerous, maybe security at one of the churches i volunteer for! hard to take the classes i need right now, since there is no ammo, but God will help me find a way! Houston leads the nation in armed car robberies so i would never consider that lol!
It is more on the size of a Detective Special in a niche between J frame and K frame, and is a good substitute. They aren't making snubbie Model 10's anymore and if something happens to the 856, I'm not losing something irreplaceable.
@@LionquestFitness Thanks for the reply. I was at a gun show last year, gun shows and firearm purchases in my country only occur "the best" in the capital city. Didn't have any K-frames to compare it with readily. Looking back it's also in the same size somewhat of a Ruger SP-101. A new K-frame .38 in my country in the 80s started at 5,000 USD. Only those rich enough bought them. As the years went by to the late 2000s prices dropped to as low as 400-600 USD....if you are lucky to find a guy selling them...most just hang on to these old school gems.
Looks like everyone is getting new hats,,lol.Tell you what Greg,I'm really impressed with these Taurus snubbies.I would had rather had the 856 with the matted stainless finish but you can't find one around here.I was lucky to find the 605 with that finish,when I did,I snapped it right up.Also good advice on oiling the one with the matted blued finish.Also thanks for the link ups.
Can I exchange the barrel from a 856 UL with a 2 inch to the barrel from a mod. 83 ? I purchased this gun from a person who needed the money but I prefer at least a 4 inch barrel for the accuracy ? Someone out there give me some expert advice on this issue please , and Thank You .
From the music to the way you speak to the way you dress as well as the gun itself is simply awesome and so unique. Man never change for anything or anyone
That matte black finish is definitely thirsty, but does get better over time. I love my matte black 856, and my 608 8 shot 357 Magnum with the 8 3/3 inch barrel!!! It's my hunting pistol!!!
Love the new 856 executive w/ 3" barrel and bobbed hammer_ the executive is made in usa
A decent weight revolver like this being chambered in .38 Special+P really is about as good as it gets for concealable revolver perfection. Sometimes it's difficult mentally to carry .38 Special+P in a .357 Magnum chambered revolver (when you always think that you _could_ go more powerful with .357 Magnum ammo), when the truth of the matter is that the .38 Special+P is the _perfect_ cartridge for a medium weight snubby revolver. My 605 is so smooth now, just today I took the side plate off and let some CLP soak in there before cleaning the excess out. I just got back from the store with that pocket holster and my 605 in it. Thanks for the revolver content!
Hey sam I'm loving mine as well!! I subd to this channel now and I'm glad to see another 605 fan👍👍
I keep coming back to this post Sam. Did Ken S. share with you the Lovette Snubbie revolver PDF?
@@LionquestFitness I had to look up what that was. No, I haven't read that but someone on YT, about a year ago gave me a digital copy of No Second Place Winners, if that's what Bill Jordan's book is called.
@@GunSam Shoot me an e-mail at lionquestfitness@gmail.com and I'll get it to you. It will strike a chord.
I'm thinking 357 may be too much in a j frame size gun...you need a little bit of balance between power and control ability. 38 plus p is enough
I have been always a revolver guy mainly because of it's simplicity,and ease of concealment.This is by far the best video, and I have learned a great deal watching them.Thank you.Keep on posting.
Thanks Django - love that name.
I saw a 3 inch 856 defender the other day with the night sight and vz grips.
I carry a Taurus 856 ultra lite as my main carry and trust it over a semi .
I can't argue with that. My 605 is my most carried gun.
Tom....
Try a Glock.
I use G30 and G29
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Good stuff, Greg! Neither rain, nor sleet, nor dark of night will stay Lionquest Fitness from the swift firing of his cylinder of rounds!
Heck yeah! BTW - did you notice the Rough Rider get-up? I watched the TNT Rough Riders movie from 1997 with Sam Elliot, Gary Busey and Tom Berringer the morning before I filmed that. I still would like to see an Arizona Ghostrider's segment on ole Teddy and his boys.
I don't know how I missed this video. I love to watch all your vids! They are very informative, and you're a great teacher. I've owned an 856 for going on 2 years now...it's a real smooth shooter! However it's a matte black version, and it started out exactly like you said... dry, and stiff as heck! I did a lot of oiling, and working the controls and action. Now it's perfect! Taurus represents a tremendous value in the handgun market. As always...thanks for a great video!
Thanks for watching Mark. Despite having quite a collection of snubbies, my all time concealed carry favorite is still my Taurus 605.
hey there im going to get the concealed hammer 856 2inch barrel and try the desantis nemesis pocket holster and owb holster for the sp101 3inch 327 i have a hat like that with chin strap for yard work on hot sunny days here in seneca
I'm seeing a lot more positive videos on Taurus revolvers lately. Looks like I am going to have to buy one for myself. I've shot a few but never owned one.
I used to own a couple back in the eighties. They were closer to S&W's then and shot well. I don't know about their airweights, but I've had good luck with their steel snubbies. Plus, I don't have to worry about marring a finish because I'm carrying them hiking or camping. Thanks for stopping by!
@@LionquestFitness so the older Taurus revolvers are better than the new ones? I was hoping they'd gotten better. Thanks.
@@buffalosoutdoors Maybe not better, but different. You have a sturdier gun now that can handle Plus P, but I miss things like a serrated trigger and the other small details that went into crafting revolvers in the seventies and early eighties.
Nice little guns. Good price....Not for a high round pounding as in thousands.
iv got a few.excellant pistols,and priced low.propably not any more tho.but still great guns.please try one.
I have the 856 now and took your advice and oiled it on the outside and the outside moving parts with Outers Oil and it made a difference. I won't take the side plate off because I've never done it. I have shot it and it's definitely a great shooter. I also have clp but I think the Outers got inside under the plate when I oiled the hammer opening. I let it sit and then wiped off the excess. Getting smoother. Great Video thank you!!
I have the Model 85 for hiking/camping/backpacking and it's perfect for the role. Mine is Matt black an yes it feels dry, but in my dry dusty west Texas environment it's perfect.
Since I already have few S&W revolvers, I gave my 605 and 92 AFS to my son in law and daughter as my personal wedding gifts. I always consider Taurus as top notch guns , that getting a beautiful vintage in almost mint condition AFSd PT 92 from an old friend made me forgot what I lost. I really appreciate your video. You are so sincere and consistent.
Thank you. BTW - I'm a big fan of the PT 92, but like you I gave mine to a friend who needed a gun.
The 3 inch came out and they brought back the 85 as the roscoe. Your predictions were spot on
I started out 30 years ago with a Taurus model 83 .38 special in stainless matte finish 4 inch six shot revolver. That gun was the Taurus answer to the Smith & Wesson model 19. Now gone and discontinued years later I had a Taurus 605 stainless which I ended up selling to my dad around seven years ago. Currently have a stainless Taurus 856 and love it. Keep it as an optional carry rig with 3 speed loaders. Have owned several semi autos from Taurus throughout the past three decades as well and they were all dependable reliable solid firearms too....... LOVE my G2C 9mm and carry it often...
The 6o5, the 856 and the G2C are all good guns.
I have my original 85 I bought in the early 1990's. I took that out a few weeks ago with a friend thinking maybe I might sell it as I have 4 more snubs. That old thing shot like a dream. I fired point shooting from the hip with it and hit 3 shots in a 3 inch group at about 5 yards. Needless to say I didn't sell it. I have a newer 85 made about 2013. Took my son(who was about 15 at the time) shooting with it and it was the first time he ever fired a handgun and he was doing 3 inch groups at 7 yards. They are amazingly accurate guns. I collect 1970s Smith and Wesson revolvers so obviously I am biased toward those. However, I have to admit that the Taurus revolvers shoot just as well. If you are looking for an inexpensive revolver you can bet your life on, try out a Taurus.
I bought one of the last 85's made for my youngest daughter. It's a very good shooter. The first few 856's weren't bad, but they gave up some weight for six cylinders, which compromised the ability to run Plus P through them on a regular basis. Although, the only problem I had was the cylinder screw backing out; which locktite took care of. Now they are advertising the 856 as Plus P, so they've made some further adjustments. Good post by the way.
I have 10 new and old S&W revolvers. I have one old 1973 Colt Detective Special. I also have a Ruger Bearcat .22 LR single action blued with real Elk stag grips. Back in the early 90s I once had a stainless Taurus model 85 with factory wood grips I kicked myself for ever selling. In more recent years I wanted another Taurus model 85 to replace my old one I never should have sold. I discovered it had been discontinued and ended up buy a 856 blued/black instead. I liked it so well I ended up getting 4 of them total with 2 blued/black and 2 stainless. I changed the grips on all of them to Pachmayr G-10, VZ Operator II G-10, Altamont Super Walnut checkered boot grips and the same wood finger groove made in Thailand custom grips Lionquest Fitness used. Instead of using tape to make them fit I bedded them with epoxy made for bedding in the action on rifles while accurizing them. The factory rubber grips all got put into the boxes for storage. When I need a revolver that isn't vintage, expensive or collectable I use these Taurus 856s. They serve that purpose very well and you are more apt to carry it. They work well while fishing, working on a vehicle or while working outside on your property. They make a great John Deere tractor gun because they can't be knocked out of battery like a semi-auto should someone charge up on you suddenly. If they try they will have a bullet through their hand. The same sliding out from working under a vehicle, or under the hood. You turn around only to discover someone came into your garage or barn and is right on top of you. I have many many semi-auto pistols, but my revolvers still have their place.
I bought mine brand new in 1990 wholesale for $145 Danger Man. It had the black cardboard box with gold print. I originally sold it for the same reason most of you other guys have. I got these Smith & Wessons, Colt and Ruger....what do I need this thing for anymore?! Truth be told it was nearly as nice and much much cheaper.
I was planning on talking to the local Taurus dealer about this revolver tomorrow. Talk about a timely video! I have an older S&W Model 36, a 70’s Model 60, and a 1953 Colt Detective Special. The Colt’s 6 round capacity is definitely noticeable while shooting, and I do carry them all. The local dealer lists the 856 stainless for $261, so I’ll give it a whirl. Thanks Greg!
Wow - nice collection of snubbies!
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The Colt DS is from 1953, the S&W Model 36 is a 1957, and the Model 60 is a 1972. They’re all in great condition, so I don’t shoot them very often. Getting a Taurus would give me more range time with a snubnose. Thanks again, Greg.
Have been very pleased with my Model 85. After first seeing this video when you posted it, I purchased the 856. Absolutely love it! The more rounds fired, the better it gets. Can’t wait for the 3 inch version! Just enjoyed watching this video again. Appreciate all of your wonderful info and demonstrations, Greg!
Thanks Tom. I hope you get a lot of years of use and enjoyment out of that 856.
Great video. Before I ever buy a handgun, I always look for holsters first - and I was worried because I couldn't find Any holsters. I really want the 856 Defender! I have a Galco Paddle Lite holster, for my S&W 36, w/3" barrel and I think the Defender would fit it. I prefer a sturdy holster, but beggers can't be choosers. I've owned that little J frame for 46 years, and Taurus pistols since '01. I think the 856 Defender will be the Last handgun I buy.
Just remember - the Defender has a K-frame cylinder on a beefed up J Frame. It may fit the paddle lite holster, but being leather, it will stretch it out. Having said that, your best bet would probably be a three inch holster for an SP101 or a S&W Model 60, since they are heavier and thicker to handle .357.
I recently bought a 856 in stainless, with a 3" barrel and a concealed hammer. It had the standard rubber grips also
I had one 85 and the 605... just ordered another 605, was actually about to order a Bond Arms roughneck 2 shot 357 then thought heck for a few bucks more I can just get the 605 which I did! But yeah much as I like derringers there just no good in today's age to be a daily carry but still beats nothing if it's all you had
Have had a mod 85 for years, love it. But 6 rounds was tempting so recently a picked up the mod. 856 and it is quickly moving up the favorites list. Good video Greg and a great hat.
Luv the hat. Actually, for a mug like myself who wears glasses, it is very practical for rain.
I just bought an 856 also
Same here. My 85 is great but a 6 shooter of similar size and weight is tempting
I just picked up a black 856 yesterday for $140. It's heavier than my keltec p11 but it feels lighter in the pocket. Feels like a brand new Smith and Wesson. Was scared of the short ejector but it's much more slick than any .357 smith I've shot. Didn't have time to put targets up but I fired 6 to test function and the trigger is fantastic.
Just got this for my 21st birthday a few weeks ago ! Great little Revolver , Handles +P & standard pressure ammo very well
I've got another video on this gun coming up this weekend comparing it to a snubbie Model 10.
Thank you for your review of the Taurus 856 revolver and comparison with others. Really appreciate you recommendations especially the ones referencing holsters.
Thanks Rich. It is not always one size fits all. Everyone is unique, but I try to lay it out the best that I can see it. Everyone can't afford an expensive gun, and truth be known; often times those more expensive guns are not any better and sometimes worse than what people call budget guns.
Love my 85 UL SS. When I need another I’ll get the 856. Love the extra round and like you I’ve had luck with my Taurus revolvers and semiautomatic handguns. Good video ad always.
That brings up another point. I've had good luck as well with their semi-autos. It kills me to say this, but if I had to choose between the Shield and the Taurus G2; I'd have to choose the G2.
I agree it is a very accurate and easy gun to shot. It’s got good capacity and easy to carry.
I just picked up a S&W model 66-3. Had the wood grips but I put some hogue grips on to improve the grip for me. Any ideas of a good IWB and OWB holster. You’re a big revolver guy. Sure you have ideas.
Graig, Congrats on being the first on UA-cam to review the Taurus 856 ultra light in matte stainless. Very nice revolver.
Hi Omar - that one is all steel. Thanks for the props though.
You’re right. I was thinking of the California approved Hammerless models. 😂
I have no complaints from my Taurus guns. I love my Taurus 856! Even better than my Smith.
My 856 and 942 are 2 of my favorite revolvers.
Yeah I have that holster in brown for my 8 shot 22 mag since it has adjustable sights I cut one layer of that elastic off the adjustable sights were really snug. Removed one layer of elastic and bingo.
Uncle Dan - You've got what I call "Farm Smarts." It used to amaze me how my stepdad could piece a car, an appliance or a construction job together using make shift parts. As he said, when growing up on the farm back in the day there weren't any Tractor Supply, Walmart or ACE Hardware available. You had to learn to improvise and work with what you had.
@@LionquestFitness yeah we have another word for it that ain't exactly "Politically Correct" if you know what I mean 😂👍
@@UncleDanBand64 LOL - Yep I do, but there is a difference there from making it work to making it last.
@@LionquestFitness yes sir us country boys specialize in the impossible!
I can't believe I bought another Taurus revolver. But this time I took your advice and bought an all steel one. Matte stainless steel, it shot very well for me and I hope it holds up.
I hope so too!
The Taurus 856 stainless steel wonderful handgun for concealed carry or in your house lightweight loaded 17 Oz the other thing is if you notice a lot of features look like a Smith & Wesson handgun that's because Schmidt used to have a factory in Brazil he is back so tourists took it over and that's why they have auto parts that resemble a Smith but the thing is they make very good guns the labor's cheap down there so they could afford to sell it cheap a lot of police have this gun and stainless steel as a backup gun it works every time you could also handle plus paying it but I would suggest just use regular 38 special and it copper plated tips much better than the lead tips you can go wrong with it check it out it beats a smitten West then the price is like double or triple and a j frames are really junk today if you look at both of them you'll see the difference how well made this gun is
Well, what I'm going to say will not endear me to S&W fans, and I count myself one, but the quality is just not there anymore like it was back in the early eighties. Taurus actually makes better shooting revolvers these days.
Thanks again for another great video. I have the 605 and 85 ultra-lite. Carry and love both.
Just purchased one Today for my wife.It’s her First Gun of any kind ever.It’s her Birthday Present from me the Husband.👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👏
I was in marketing. I had to chuckle. I saw an ad for a pink gun and pink ammo and it said buy her a gun for mother's day
@@claudb1029 most all of the companies these days, make a pink version of their firearm.
So far I really like my 856 mine is the black one it's ok also carried a m36 1965 S/W . Great video.
Thanks George.
You make a good case for Taurus. Those are fine looking pistols.
Hi Al - they aren't bad looking as long as you aren't comparing them to a older S&W or Taurus, they run well and they don't cost a lot. It is a lot easier on the mind to pack one of those as opposed to one of my older S&W's.
Thanks for sharing your experiences with Taurus steel revolvers. I echo your opinions. Fortunately I haven't tried any of the polymer revolvers.
Hi Rich - thanks for the thumbs up!
@@LionquestFitnessThank you Greg.
Well, again for the 2nd time this week I have had to open UA-cam in a Windows Edge browser to comment.
There is no option in my Google Chrome to comment. Odd that's happening within 2, Google products.
@@Me2Lancer I don't know Rich. I've been using Edge for awhile. I can't access a lot of the online work I assign my students on Chrome. Also Edge gives you a cleaner screen look. But then some searches work on Chrome, but not Edge. I think the big tech companies have gotten bigger than they can control.
@@LionquestFitnessThanks for those comments Greg. One reason I like to use Chrome is that on some UA-cam video by certain individuals I've had problems with distorted aspect rations in Edge that don't exist in Chrome.
Just picked one up 2 days ago and I love it.
Yes sir, love the hat. I've got one very similar to yours. I also just picked up a Taurus 856 Ultra Lite with a concealed hammer. It works great in my right front pocket. Its a bit of a bulge but so is my phone that's in the left pocket. It sure weighs less than my all steel 856. Taurus products are getting better and better. Great video my friend.
Thanks Max!
For revolver lovers Greg's channel is a cornucopia of wonderful information! Look that one up in your Funk and Wagnall!
Jeff, do they still make Funk and Wagnall?
@@LionquestFitness the,last,printing was in 1997 but you,may still find new copies,of,that,print. Note these arent the,originals. They,ended but,republished,in 1931 and 1947 with the cosponsors name in,the,title
The reason Taurus revolvers cost more than they did a few years ago is because of the new factory in Georgia. They also bought and are using new state of the art CNC equipment so quality is up and they reinstated their lifetime warranty. Not only the lifetime warranty but they pay the shipping both ways and get it back to you in 4 - 6 weeks once again. You aren't going to find a Taurus revolver especially the 856 for less than $300 ever again.
I didn't know they actually made the revolvers here now.
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I think it is more like a GLOCK and formally Sig Sauer type arrangement. Some parts are still made in Brazil while other parts are made in Georgia. Pretty sure the final assembly takes place in Georgia. You can definitely see a increase in quality if you look at new production guns.
You sound like a nice fellow, glad I found your channel.
Another good video. I saw the 856 and really liked it. One other Taurus I saw that I liked was the 692 since it comes in a 3 inch barrel. It also has a 9mm cylinder you can swap out for it. I noticed you were wearing suspenders. I actually went to ankle holsters for when I wear suspenders. I don't like how the gun feels loose if Im not wearing a belt. One other thing. Your videos got me motivated to work on open handed self defense. I bought a wavemaster and filled it with sand and started working on blocks and strikes.
That's great you've been practicing your unarmed defense. It gives you another dimension of protection and will enhance your firearms training.
please make a video with the Taurus 617
Gotta find one first!
When I bought a 605, I noticed that the 85 had been replaced with the 856. That made me pause a bit before going with the 605 anyway. Six 38s can beat five 357s if you can't handle the blast and recoil of the 357.
Your groups are decent even in the rain. My last outing, I would need much bigger hands to cover my groups! LOL.
It is possible there may be plans for a 606 return. We'll see.
Taurus has the 856 in a 3 inch barrel now! It is the Taurus Defender 856, and MSRP is $425. Can't provide a link, but it's on their website.
I'll check it out. They were only selling them in South America,
Great review, thanks for including your experiences with the holsters too!
I like my 856. I’ve seen ads online for the 3” 856, but not for the US market yet. Sure hope they bring the 3” version here. I’d buy one.
Thanks for the holster options. I have an IWB holster from Crossfire
Thanks for the review. I just purchased one of these and I'm very impressed with it so far.
I'm still happy with mine. It's going to the range with me tomorrow.
Greg, where did you order the suspenders from?
I think I got them from Walmart.
@@LionquestFitnessWalmart? Too funny, I will check, thanks.
I do like steel for Taurus small-frame revolvers such as the 85 and 856. That said, my mom has an 85 Ultra-Lite I gave her that shoots pretty well. I'm actually planning to acquire an UL 856 sometime in the near future. It should complement my steel 856, as well as my other snubs.
Train with the steel and carry the air weight.
The 856 is on my want list. Thanks for the awesome video. New subscriber.
Thanks Thomas!
Brother I couldn't agree more about poly revolvers, if you are looking for one to just load and carry and NEVER shoot it unless it's a life or death situation then to each his own I gues but it's just not a built to last design, I will however say there was a time when I had the same opinion on autoloaders and that has changed so maybe someday it might work but we are not there yet with Revolvers.
Another great video Greg. I have a model 85 ultralight and my wife has the model M380 revolver. Really like them both.
Thank you Gregory.
Subscribed. I like what you have to say, how you say it. Thank you for going over the holster options also, very helpful.
I have the Taurus 605, it is 38special +P/.357! Love it!
Nice video.
Thank you Carol Anne!
Greg I just bought a matte black 856. I took a chance because there's no key lock this time like my 85. I had trouble grabbi g, drawing and shooting my Glock 43 accurately. I never expected to shoot the Glock 43 as well as my Glock 19 gen3. So I traded the G43 away on the 856UL. I took it to the range and did well with it. Taurus must've watched your 856 video about being dry, mine was oozing oil out of the crane area and the cylinder release area.
I'm laughing at your comment on the oil. Get some orange nail polish and highlight the front sight. It will help with accuracy.
Get a T617 but I wish that gun would have 856 grip frame instead of a judge grip frame because the grip selection available for the 856 is very nice. A T617 with a 3" barrel would also be sweet. Nice thing about the T617 is that it is a 7 shot and shoot 357 although I wouldn't recommend 357 as your practice rounds in that gun cause it's too light at 26 oz. The minimum weight frame you need to comfortable shoot 357 is an L Frame or an N frame. Then you can shoot 357 all day with those but theyre on the heavy side.
I love my smith 638 but I’ve been packing my Taurus 856 ultra lite because of that one extra shot. Love the 856
Just got one of these nice review on it did your comes with a pinned front sight
No, I've been leery of that pinned sight and whether they'll be prone to break. That is why I haven't purchased a three inch model yet.
@@LionquestFitness weird because my 2 inch model came with a pinned sight
@@deltadragon2335 that's how they are making them now.
@@LionquestFitness has your sight had any problems
@@deltadragon2335 no - the sights and barrel are dead on.
I have the 85 and that’s what I carry. I have had glocks , H&K , S&W semiautomatics but I just can’t shoo them as well
There is a time and place for every firearm. For the average daily carry in America, unless you live in a high crime area or in a remote rural area, I don't buy that a five shot revolver is optimistic.
I am the opposite
I had one of those poly protector when they came out. Only had it for one shooting and dumped it.
I can certainly see why! That was the first gun I bought after not having owned or fired a gun in 12 years and was a lesson in frustration.
Why have you slowed down the content, it's great
I've been swamped at work here lately.
On board, have been thinking about 605, your advice on the finish swayed me, will be stainless. Thanx. P.S.
Good choice - too, it will shoot Plus P all day and if needs be you can shoot .357.
That’s what I have, and it’s a Great little revolver! ❤️
I like the idea of ammo compatibility with a 9mm semiautomatic. Would a Taurus 905 9mm revolver be much less controllable than a Taurus 856 .38 special loaded with wadcutters? What are your thoughts on a Taurus 905 revolver?
I have the taurus 85 matte black and I totally agree with u, the gun shoots good but it does feel very dry
Thank you for your comprehensive and informative videos
I appreciate, that you share your personal experiences
I will be purchasing a Taurus 856 vs 605 in 2024
….. I do have a Taurus 605 poly - I have had no issues- but I donot fire 357 or heavy 38 thru it
QUESTION- what is your opinion on a Taurus 3inch barrel 856 vs Taurus 856 Snubby for EDC-?
…….. my shooting arm has good and bad days and looking for positive advantage that I can obtain
……..my economics will not allow me to purchase a Ruger SP101
Thank you
I haven't made a purchase yet on a three inch 856, so I am just guessing on this, but if you are looking for more of a do all handgun, concealed carry, home defense, target practice etc., I'd go with the three inch.
I absolutely love this pistol!!! Mine is the heavier blued 856, not the ultra. It is everything I've always wanted in a snubby, reasonably accurate, decent trigger, comfortable for IWB, 6 shots and much less cost than others. I wear mine in a leather S&W model 10 IWB I had.Glad to see your review of it, sure doesn't get as much love as it should.
Hello Greg. Here's an update on my all steel Taurus 856. So far so good. The only problem I have 38 special ammo is going for almost $30 for a box of 50 and it's FMJ ammo. I have a Taurus 942 on order which is the same gun in 22 lr. I enjoy shooting double action revolvers more than my other guns. I can't get small pistol primers to reload and all my handguns require small primers except for my 1911 in 45acp which I have a lot of primers for.
I don't know if this helps or not, but I've been ordering my .38's from Georgia Arms. It's a little more, but the ammo is very consistent and they also have self-defense rounds.
i pay $60 a box in california, stop your whining broke boy
Thank you Gregg. As you know,I have been waiting for this video! Any chance we can see a side by side of the 856 and the 85? No one up here has them in stock, so...
I will definitely be getting one, and hope that Taurususa offers them in the 3" bbl here, SOON!
I'd debated that, so since you asked, I will do one in a couple of weeks. I'll throw the 605 in there as well. I already had something planned for the next video.
@@LionquestFitness Thank you. That would be helpful. and using the 605 also, too. since I have the 85 & 605
I love my Model 85! And, it fits great in my Blackhawk Speed Classic. I hope you’re right about Taurus bringing it back in a three inch version.
Keep an eye out. Those three inch revolvers sometimes make their way al norte.
Good show thanks for the info.. I lately picked up a Glock 33 from a police supply shop. It was a A.L.E. turn in. I have been E.D.C. it for the past month and gave my 1962 colt cobra a rest.
As much as I love the old classics I collect, I tend to carry newer firearms more utilitarian that can be replaced. That Glock 33 is a interesting gun. That's a lot of firepower in a subcompact with the .357 Sig. But, if you're getting your shots where you want them, you've got an excellent defensive firearm.
Oh it is a very accurate gun. I also reload 357sig so range ammo is cheap for me. I carry corbond 125gr 357sig in it. Like you say the classics are wonderful guns. But god forbid if ever in a shooting they will be dusted and put in evidence room and when you get it back may have rust on it. Also you have to find another gun to CCW. A Glock in that case can be replaced in a second as they are every where. I also CCW a Glock 36 and Glock 27. Now my off duty back up is a Glock 23 but it is not carried much lately. I only carry it in my county I work in so Im covered by my dept.
@@500mos You know - I was mulling over this this morning. Back when I started in L.E. in the eighties; you carried a six shot revolver and if you carried off duty, it was usually a five shot Chief's Special.
For the average person who doesn't carry large sums of money, doesn't live in a high crime area, or who doesn't live in a very rural area; a J frame snubbie is still a good option. But, once you get into security or L.E. work or live in a rough area; the odds change.
Man in the 1980s I had got out of the Army. I always carried a Colt series 70 1911 that I got from a Major on my post. It went all over with me than I traded it.
@@500mos LOL - If you're like me, I bet you still wish you had it!
Carried a revolver most of my security work days. I like them. Problem i did not like is slow to reload if needed. Even with speed loaders. And in a 6 shot the speed loader in your jeans pocket is like carrying another cylinder. And even slower yet to reload when trying to get loader out of pants pocket. But even with that being said, the Taurus 856 or even the EAA Windicator in 357 mag with a 2 inch barrel does make for a nice concealed carry package. And very tempting to get.
I concur on the speedloader. I keep looking out for dual speedloader pouches that don't cost an arm and a leg for wearing on my belt. They used to make a type that set on the top of the belt, so that they didn't protrude out as much.
@@LionquestFitness those were/are from Sarfariland if they still make them. Also try Don Hume and El paso Saddlery. But like you said, they are not cheap.
If your gonna be a rough rider you need a .45lc saa. Good video man.
Yep, except I think they might have been using the .38 long Colt by then. Or, at least that was what Teddy was carrying.
I just picked up a black 856 (as a Christmas gift),for a relative. Her husband shoots all sorts of guns, she does not. I'll likely give her a cylinder full of my girlfriend's 90 grain Hornady CD hollow points. My relative's husband can reload some light recoil fmj's for her. All of that said, this revolver will likely end up as a paperweight. I'm reminded of when two other relatives purchased.(in the 1990's) a Rossi snub nose, and an SKS for my grandmother. Both saw fewer than 10 rounds through them in a 15-20 year period. 😝
We love your instructional inspiring videos so well planned out. Great music background
A great review. In the end we are lucky many great choices. Sort of like an ice cream place with 37 flavors. After waiting on line for 20 minutes the guy says next and the person in front of you can't decide. It can well be my wife. Far from an expert. I bought the 856 in stainless in april of 2024. Mine says Bainbridge,Ga (Georgia) it does not say made in USA. Why I don't know.
Black being dry-I don't know. No one reads INSTRUCTIONS. I didn't either . I usually says to clean and lube a new gun. My stainless 856 had plenty of oil on it. Break it in? Some say 500 rounds. That is a lot of money. I pumped the ejector rod a few thousand times while watching TV. I opened and closed the cylinder around 500x. I stored it with the hammer pulled back reducing the power of the new spring. Then I cleaned and lubed it. Mine shoots great. I have no way to measure but seems the trigger pull has dropped. Mine works great.
That gun was a keeper. I've been carrying it today. A 500 round exposure plan has more to do with 1911's than revolvers.
I have no issue with Taurus semi-auto pistols, I own two. I have concerns about the metallurgy/MIM parts of a Taurus revolver. There are anecdotes of broken transfer bars on the first trip to the range. The designs are great. If only I could trust their quality control, I would love to own an 856 and a 692.
All I can speak of is my experience. I've had five now that have all worked fine and they've certainly had their share of rounds put through them. I hadn't heard the broken transfer bar stories. However, the transfer bar is similar to the Ruger's as opposed to S&W. It sits loose in the channel and may rattle slightly when the gun is turned side to side. That may be the source of the broken transfer bar anecdotes.
@@LionquestFitness I thank you for your work. This video is the first of yours that I have seen. I've been eyeing the 856 and the polyprotector for a while. I had not heard of the issues with the poly.
@@traumajock Some people swear by the Polymer revolvers and say they've never had problems with them. One of the problems with light weight revolvers is the blast of energy that comes from the forcing cone, which is why 9mm has such a greater pressure than .38. You lose a lot of energy due to the physical mechanics of a revolver. That is why I believe the polymer frames don't hold up well. An all steel revolver absorbs that energy much better.
Every modern revolver is made with Mim parts. I've owned a Taurus 605 almost three years no issues.
Love that hat too!
Great video.
Great video!
I came real close to buying a 856 awhile back but the money wasn't there at the time. I regret missing the opportunity.
I ended up going a different route and got a Beretta Pico, but I'm still interested in the 856
Watch the support hand index finger. Bad habit getting it that far forward especially when transitioning to 357 and beyond. Otherwise excellent video. Mine (a 605) had to get a new cylinder but otherwise is awesome.
I'm not going to contradict you, other than to say I've been shooting like that for years now with no problems with both .38 Plus P and .357. Depending on your hand and finger size it could be a problem, but for me it is not. I don't teach new shooters to do that or recommend it for anyone else, but for me it works.
Well I knew it was just a matter of time before I would see the 856 in action on Lionquest Fitness! The 856 is high on my wish list. I think Taurus brought it back just to compete with the Colt Cobra which is also very high on my list. Once I save enough money to get the 856 it’s going to be very hard to wait to save more money for the Cobra. As always, great shooting! BTW, do you know if 856 and 85 grips are interchangeable? Thanks
Yes, the grips are interchangeable. The Cobra has come down some - but I don't like that fiber optic sight.
Great looking revolver!
Thanks for sharing, Greg. Looks like good revolvers for less than a Smith.
And nice hat!
And that is the thing. I have older Smiths that are good to very good quality, but they don't make guns like that anymore. The new Smiths are expensive and the QC is not always there. I can buy a Taurus that is utilitarian and functional, and I don't have to worry about losing, ruining or wearing out one of those classic Smith's I collect.
The quality is indeed better on the older ones, too bad they don’t make them like they used to.
I have an older model 85 that is a 6 shot and have had no issues and its steel. Also had the poly protector and didn't like it. Might get this 856 seen where RK guns has them for 199 after rebate. Good price and the hat is cool
Hi Scott - I've owned two of the 85's, two of the 605's and now the 856. They've all been solid, reliable and accurate guns. LOL - I can't say the same about the Polyprotector I owned. Taurus seems to work well with the tried and true - the PT92, and the revolvers in an all steel frame. Although, the G2C has definitely been a popular gun this past couple of years.
@@LionquestFitness yes sir I agree on the revolvers. Have a G2C that so far has been great. Just got the Spectrum just to see if it works. Not impressed with the spectrum so far. And Buffalo outdoors did a vid on the TX22 by Taurus and it seems good.
Another very informative video. Would like to see your take on the S&W Ultimate Carry J Frame by Lipshy. Like that hat.
Thanks! We'll see on the Ultimate Carry. The jury is still out. They're nice looking guns. I haven't held one yet. If I spend that kind of money on an airweight, it will probably be on the Kimber six shoot though.
Bought the stainless 956-the heavier steel one!
That's my pick as well!
Love my 605!! Nice informative video sir👍
Thank you G-Dubb!
Love it. It’s my EDC (w/Buffalo Bore 20A/20).
One more thing... I haven’t heard anything but good things about those Blackhawk speed holsters with the elastic on top.think it would work with my S&W 66-2,2.5 inch ?if so it would be nice to see it on your belt in a future video .thanks & take care
I wish they would Burke! But they're primarily for J frame revolvers. That 856 is about the biggest they'll go.
thank you sir. every time I see you handle a mod. 605 , I have to liberate mine from the safe and ask myself , how come I don't carry this baby ? ...dang, I think I will ! .
And that is a nice compliment!
Tauri revolvers and a great looking hat! Things that defy criminals and a little rain!
You read their minds - I ain't going mess with that crazy old man!
Lionquest Fitness not that a little rain bothers much, but I was sort of glad the new model 10 wasn’t out there. Although, it is pouring rain here (T S Barry) and I’ve got mine on. 😀
would you ever recommend a revolver for a security guard duty weapon, and if so, which one? i like the taurus 692 with the 2 cylinders (357 and 9mm), it is a 7 shot revolver!
Robert - a lot of it depends on what type of security you are doing. Some more dangerous jobs, such as an armored car driver would require higher capacity. For many security jobs though, a S&W Model 64, a S&W 686, a Taurus 82 or 65, or the gun you mentioned would work fine. Make sure you train with the gun and company policy allowing; I'd carry speed loaders.
@@LionquestFitness thanks, i was just considering, something not so dangerous, maybe security at one of the churches i volunteer for! hard to take the classes i need right now, since there is no ammo, but God will help me find a way! Houston leads the nation in armed car robberies so i would never consider that lol!
I noticed - I like it, nice hat. Nice video, thanks for posting. GB
Gary, it is a Bailey by Hollywood.
This would be my substitute for a M10, same niche, medium frame 6-shot snub.
It is more on the size of a Detective Special in a niche between J frame and K frame, and is a good substitute. They aren't making snubbie Model 10's anymore and if something happens to the 856, I'm not losing something irreplaceable.
@@LionquestFitness Thanks for the reply. I was at a gun show last year, gun shows and firearm purchases in my country only occur "the best" in the capital city.
Didn't have any K-frames to compare it with readily. Looking back it's also in the same size somewhat of a Ruger SP-101.
A new K-frame .38 in my country in the 80s started at 5,000 USD. Only those rich enough bought them. As the years went by to the late 2000s prices dropped to as low as 400-600 USD....if you are lucky to find a guy selling them...most just hang on to these old school gems.
I say again, Snubbies are more accurate than most shooters! Nice Hat! Great video!
Looks like everyone is getting new hats,,lol.Tell you what Greg,I'm really impressed with these Taurus snubbies.I would had rather had the 856 with the matted stainless finish but you can't find one around here.I was lucky to find the 605 with that finish,when I did,I snapped it right up.Also good advice on oiling the one with the matted blued finish.Also thanks for the link ups.
I had to have an FFL friend special order it for me. I am trying to decide now how it should fit in my overall self-defense plan.
Can I exchange the barrel from a 856 UL with a 2 inch to the barrel from a mod. 83 ? I purchased this gun from a person who needed the money but I prefer at least a 4 inch barrel for the accuracy ? Someone out there give me some expert advice on this issue please , and Thank You .
Try the Taurusarmed.net forum James and see if someone there can give you any advice.
@@LionquestFitness Thank you for your response .
@@jamesbryan7890 sorry it took so long. A lot of times I don't get notifications when people comment.
@@LionquestFitness not a problem , the fact that you responded at all is soon enough , thanks !