That’s a luxury not many professions have. (- I‘m a nurse... and if I‘m not in the mood to deal with the 20 variations of green and brown, I still have to...)
Helps when you have a backlog of work and your boss knows quality is king. he's also demonstrating is the pillars of production. Cost. Time. Quality. You only get to pick two. From time to time the stars will align and you'll get your third but this isn't counted on and rarely hoped for.
I work in the security field and it occurs to me that our jobs have something in common. If we do a good job, no-one will ever notice that we did anything.
This is true of any goid job that are important to someone's comfort. The comfort of the soul is the gift of the artist. The work going into it must be effortless to those that experiene the result
The closest Julian ever got to murder was when he saw that patch covering the inscription and that the adhesive was non-reversible. (Without counting that painting he had to scrape for 84 years)
You forgot engineer, researcher, and probably other stuff I'm too tired to think of. Oh, right, all of the video stuff, the voice over, probably script writing, etc... Like, how is he so capable?! I'm like, ugh, the bathroom next to my bedroom is so far away, and he's out here just getting a ton of work done, so freaking artfully! I'd almost be angry with him, if I wasn't so soothed by him.
I remember up at Kenwood House when I was doing a summer job with English Heritage, and I noticed that one of the Rembrandt portraits, of this nominally Puritan Protestant woman, had a jewelled hair ornament. Rembrandt had painted this sweet sad lady with a tiny ornamentation, maybe just a tinge of comfort in a cold Puritan world.
When he got to the point where he was placing felt on the painting to protect it from the clips I suddenly got emotional thinking of the creator of these paintings. I don't know who they are or how old these paintings are but I'm sure a number of the artists are now dead, and I was thinking of that person watching from the beyond as he repairs their painting. Placing cloth on the surface to protect it just felt so reverent and holy and I can't imagine being the person seeing this stranger take such respectful.. almost loving care of something _they_ made. Something a person made with their own two hands, touching and putting themselves into every square in of that piece. It really is a beautiful thing.
great comment, OP. despite the fact that for the duration of the 1 or 2 minutes it'll take me to write this reply, I'll be thinking about what giraffes taste like in the context of your nickname. what's great about being respectful and loving is that it can be applied to ANYTHING and ANYONE... all can be treated as a piece of beautiful art. all it takes is making the decision to do it (easy) and keeping that behavior consistent (difficult).
Baumgartner: Well you're in my conservation studio so you're probably not doing that well Me: *thinking that he was talking to me and not the painting* 👁️👄👁️
this makes me a bit uncomforable in some ways, was the previous restoration a best effort with resources and knowledge of the time, much like hes using the best effort and knowledge of THIS time in history, could well be in 50 years someone is like "why the heck did this guy use this varnish we all now know that its not as stable as claimed and could degrade the canvass" or something like that.. the best knowledge, materials and practice of one time can be woeful in hindsight and today we may do things that the future will see as bad too
@@Simon-ho6lynot true. most of the restoration methods this guy uses (and conservators in general) have been common practice for decades or even centuries. yes, our understanding of chemical properties and the aging process of certain materials has improved, but the techniques are the same. the previous restoration effort was pretty lazy and sloppy for any time period
Time: 2221: "Of course, the conservator of this painting had no way of knowing that Belgian linen would provide the perfect breeding ground for Jovian fungus."
If the original materials brief is included with the painting, they'll definitely say flattering things, even if they don't agree with his retouching, because it'll make their own reversal just that much easier.
Insect jewelry was the fashion at time, because of Egyptian archeology brining the scarab design to Europe. The interest went so far as wearing live insects on chains or in small cages
😱 Um. I can see where that'd be effective with one of those enormous iridescent Amazonian jungle beetles for example, but... eeesh!! Nasty thing to do to the insects, and just the thought of those spiny little feet perhaps touching one's skin through the jewelry cage... double eeesh!!
Thank you for this, Walter. You have brought even more important information about this painting to my heart. A young girl keeping with the times by wearing a real looking insect in her ear. I love it.
I love that she also has a row of similar bees in her hair. You can see them when he is removing the varnish from around her eyes. They are visible at the beginning as well but harder to see under the yellowed varnish.
Thank you for the observation! The idea of wearing a live insect in a cage horrified me! The discovery of a large Palmetto bug on my coat turned me into a screaming masher! However I had to go out on the internet and check. Sure enough, Truth! I have bought and carefully sewn down iridescent beetle wing casings for a specific effect. The insects are specifically raised for the purpose in Asia. I have Bee broaches in my stash as well, but they are suitably metallic!
gotta say, as an artist, i am always very entertained by the amount of reverence he has in his voice when he says “what the ARTIST WANTED......their CHOICES..” bc half the time i’m just like uhhhhhhhh maroon looks cool i think
Same, he was talking about the background, and as an artist, im usually like "ugh yeah, ig this solid color looks pretty good with the rest cause I don't feel like doing a cohesive background" (ofc, in the context of my own work, obv portraits are different)
but that decision is still worthy of great respect, even if you don't think it's an important choice. it's still a choice you make when you make your art simply because it's your art. no one has a right to override the decision you made for your art.
Yeah, I'm like..." oh, I kinda like this color" or " maybe blue, idk?" when I'm coloring in my sculpts (3d character/environment artist). It's gonna be funny watching people try and figure out the motivations I had for my work lol.
As a writer its just as ludacris. "What exactly do you mean by this? Is it the character's disdain for those around him and his situation?" Bitch he sat down because his legs hurt what
Watching Julian tack the canvas onto the back of this painting makes me want to see the state of his sock drawer. I feel like his whole life lines up cleanly like this...
Let's say: It's endearing to see how much more comfortable Mr B is on camera now, and tantalizing to see what he might attempt next as a result of that. 😉 I particularly enjoy seeing how much his natural sense of humour has become incorporated into the videos, makes them even more fun to watch!
I love that his dad was like "what are you doing? You don't know anything." and 19-year-old Julian was like "you're right but I'm gonna figure it out" and I think that's really beautiful.
I'm 19 as of writing this and I really am struggling a lot right now, hearing this and knowing that it's okay not to know what to do really touched me, I think I struggle with that a lot and am always too hard on myself, lately my mind often wanders to suicidal thoughts and It's hard to keep hold of something to help me through these times, I go to therapy and I want to persevere and try to get better for my own sake and for the hope that I'll see to a better day and a brighter future. I don't know if anybody who is going through something like this will read this, but I want to believe that there is a way out of this. One step at the time, we've got to be kind towards ourselves too.
@@robertoferri9092 i just turned 20 and 19 was the hardest year of my entire life!!! you’ve got this, it truly is one foot in front of the other until you painstakingly learn to live in a way that is much happier.. you cant tap out now! you have hardly experienced anything yet:) sending u love
@@You-th3cn thank you, I've been better these days but it's not an easy road for sure, regardless, I've got time ahead of me to figure everything out and that's helped me a bit to calm down
19's a rough year. 18, it's like 'WOW, I'm an adult now??' and then the next year it's 'I'M NOT PROGRESSING FAST ENOUGH.' Everyone moves at a different pace and there's more than 1 way to be successful. Some days are harder than others. And you don't see progress *because you're always looking for it* Progress is something you don't notice til enough time has gone by. One day, you'll look back and think 'I wasn't able to do this 3 years ago' Accepting that fighting with your brain in order to keep living is going to be your reality....it's rough. You can't help that. What matters is you're actively striving for a better life for yourself. And that's admirable. I'm 27. I have a mental illness that I take medication for. We're in this sh!t together!
My father always told me i knew nothing. One day he said it and i asked "does anyone?" And he smiled amd said "i take it back boy. You know more than most of the men u work with." He was never putting me down. He just wanted me to learn while it was still easy to.
Tywin is how I'd want to be in my profession. I already act like im at that level and for the most part I'm right so i suppose I'm at a tyrion level at least
"dad do you think people will like it if I give texture to the varnish?" "The lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep!" "Textured varnish it is"
Hahaha. That new intro with the scraping and brushes revealing the logo feels very reminiscent of my childhood watching PBS shows. Something about it just takes me back.
I really thought we were getting called out when he went “how are you?.. probably not all that well” like thanks Julian I didn’t come here to get roasted
I assumed he meant that comment in relation to the current world situation, many of us AREN'T doing all that well. If you felt triggered by his comment, you might want to take a look at why. I hope you ARE doing well. 🤗
I love how her bee earrings match her bee ribbon headband. You never even noticed that detail with the old varnish. Wonderful job done. Thank you for this restoration. ❤️🥰👍
@@KristenK78 try looking on Etsy for bee buttons or Hobby Lobby for bee charms in the jewelry making section. If you want cloth bees you might be able to find small appliqués. Good luck!
I feel like Julian is not only a great craftsman, but also a master teacher. He has a way of repeating information between videos in a way which never gets boring. Its hard to believe we get to not only watch but also learn his craft in such depth, for free. We truly live in a wonderful world.
I find it charming that the keys turned out to form hearts, which to me is a visual representation of the love you put into your work. I know, that sounds corny, but it makes sense to me. Your work is exquisite. I am grateful that you make these videos to let us in on your process and provide rich information about the paintings as they are when they come to you, the decisions you make about how best to care for, restore, and conserve the paintings for the enjoyment of the owners and all others who see it, your work on the painting, and the beautiful, often breathtaking, results of your work. I have to imagine the reactions of the owners as they see the painting anew, and what a future conservator might think about your work when next this painting needs attention. I can’t imagine that that future conservator won’t appreciate the quality of your work and the care you took to make everything you did reversible, making their job easier.
i for real had to pause at that moment and give it a good laugh, he said "i can see with my eyes" and my brain just stopped hearing after that, as if that was the whole answer
People probably ask this a lot, but I would love a video that shows what your average workday is like. Like, how many different paintings you work on in a day (since you often say you can't work on just retouching or scraping up varnish for too long a stretch without losing focus), and how much you spend dealing with clients, writing up the results of painting examinations, etc. A "while I had X painting on the hot table for 2 hours, I worked on Y" sort of thing.
Baumgartner: Well, you're in my conservation studio so you're probably not doing that well. Me: Dude, you have no idea. I'm hanging on by a thread that's fraying more than the Belgium linings you always use, things have been really tough and watching you restore paintings give me more hope than therapy ever manages to. Baumgartner: ... I actually meant the pai- Cameraman: No, no, let her finish.
This painting is so beautiful. I feel like we as the audience get to know the subject, get to feel who she was. The way she stares right at you, and the little smile she has--I wonder what she was like. She seems like she would've been fun to have a cup of tea with.
That earring looks like a native British black honey bee that was nearly lost when grand tours of the continent introduced yellow honey bees from the Italian Mediterranean to the British isles.
@@constancemiller3753 I saw a loads of red squirrels up in the Lake District when I was younger, sadly they seem to be really really rare now in the last ten years
Julian: Well hello! Me: Hi! Julian: How are you? Me: I'm ok.. i guess.. Julian: Well, you're in my conservation studio, probably not doing that well. Me: Actually yes.. I'm a little bit s- Also me: *realize he was talking to the painting* *dies*
"Patina" is, pardon my French, merde. It's dirt, it's decay, it's oxidation. I did furniture restoration for a spell, and it really grossed me out how some folks didn't understand that their precious patina was just a hundred years of ground-in dead skin cells and tobacco residue. The original woodworkers and tailors would've been aghast that people wanted to preserve filth on their hard work.
@@TheRealColBosch While I tend to agree that most furniture does not warrant the gross, sticky residue some refer to as patina, there ARE some cases where a patina is actually added by an artist. For instance, when I made a frame with beautiful carving, I added a paint called patina to add emphasis to the carving and made the recesses stand out on a guilt paint to keep it from looking flat. When I made a stained glass panel or window, I purposely use chemicals intended to oxidize the leading lines because bright shinny silver solder distracts from the glass while dark grey and smoothly colored lines recede and even out to become part of the design. Though a few designs do call for a "copper" patina that well, looks like a dull copper.
I'm an author and I don't think Mr. Baumgartner knows just how profound some of the things he says are, and watching his videos does something to my brain and increases my creativity.
Man, the past really speaks to you through these paintings. I cannot really comprehend why watching you restore these pieces back to life makes me so happy, but it does. Thank you.
Let's face it, 99% of us here don't have 2 clues about it. One's lost and the other's out looking for it. However, we now know just a itty bitty, teensy weensy, miniscule bit about art restoration. Washi kozo!
My favorite thing about your videos is how much love and care you have for art. Hearing you talk about the paint and what the artist wanted you to see and the little details you k it by overlook is absolutely amazing! I’m a painter myself and it brings a tear to my eye to hear you speak so highly or art and the artists. Thank you
"The idea that we would leave this material that has changed, and the artist didn't know would change, would betray the artist!" Oh like all of Van Gogh's work? Chrome yellow was new when he painted and he loved the bright color--but over time it gets all musty brown. The sunflowers he is so well known for USED to actually be bright yellow. And people continue to applaud his "vision and uniqueness" making them brown. xD
I disagree with varnish though, I think they DID know it would change, I mean it's not like they didn't have old yellowed paintings around. The more I think about it the more I think that dark greenish, grey background was intentional. The blue sky's of centuries past had turned those sorts of shades so by starting with that 1. it wouldn't look as bad as it yellowed and 2. it would "match" the older paintings.
@@mwater_moon2865 I agree with you on this, but I don’t think they did it as part of the “look” of painting per say. My thoughts are they definitely knew about it and knew it would happen, so they took whatever precautions they could while painting so that in the future the yellowing varnish would hopefully be less obvious and distracting. Also it takes a literal lifetime for the yellowing to occur and likely would not be noticeable by the artist or recipient. If they had access to varnish to they knew 100% would never yellow, some would have used it. And the ones that didn’t use it and continued using the historic varnishes would have done so out of either tradition, or out of fear. I can say though, if I spend countless hours painting something I considered a masterpiece, I would stick to a varnish that is absolutely proven to not cause damage or destroy my hard work, even if I knew 50+ years later it would yellow slightly.
tbh Julian's attention to detail on the tacking edges makes perfect sense. I've been sewing since i was a kid (to various degrees of success) and clean, neat seams on the inside of a garment really do add a lot to making it seem pretty and professional, even if you don't see it while the clothes are on. It may not matter to a passive viewer, but little details like that can really make the piece so much nicer for the person who owns it. (also the way you can see the scissors struggle with the Kevlar thread before cutting away.... ooof. i feel that)
"Welcome to Baumgartner fine art restoration. We're going to take care of all of these issues. We're going to put you back together and send you on your way" Love the energy in this video? Sounded like he was talking to us and I needed that tonight omg
I thought he was talking to me... I said "no, not so good actually, how'd you know I come here to feel good?" and started crying... then I realized he was talking to the painting.
Julian talked about areas that looked odd under the black light. Not retouching, but he circled them in red and then in green. Did I miss in the video where he addressed "fixing" those? Or that it wasn't what he thought? Or any comments on those areas?
@@veramae4098 I think he mentioned that those were probably dirty old varnish areas. So I’m assuming whenever he cleaned the painting it got addressed. In one of his previous videos he said he references back to the black light multiple times, so I’m assuming after he cleaned the painting he took it to the black light room and saw that it looked better.
I love how the keys in the back make a heart shape. Its a nice touch. Its beautiful. His work is so satisfying and his attention to detail and perfection is amazing.
1. Now you can see the matching bee headband which is awesome! 2. The tucking in of the strip lining on the back is the most beautiful and satisfying thing!!
To all viewers who thought that "Probably not doing all that well" was addressed to you - I feel you. Things are gonna get better, I promise. You're strong and beautiful, you got this, I believe in you
Bees are a symbol of hope, also a reminder of the fragility of life. Not just the earring, they are on a band in her hair. Seeing the contrast in the messages, I thought I'd look the inscription up. Ann Wheaton Cozzens was the daughter of Mary Sophia Cozzens, who died in 1866. The possibility is that this is a portrait of her mother in early life, and it was over painted with the bees as a commemorative act on her death. Ann's father died the same year. This is unlikely to be Ann herself, who was 38 at the time. This is the height of the Victorian cult of death of course. Any thoughts? Just noticed at the very end, that the artist's signature says 1866. And Julian says A M Cozzens
I literally heard myself suck in my breath in a gasp on the reveal it was so beautiful, and I laughed at myself ! Evidentally, I'm not alone in thoroughly enjoying watching this master artisan work. Thank you, Julian, it is my pleasure to watch you practicing magic.👏 Pat. February 2022
Having the advantage of knowing what will happen as you look at what you know has already happened is not seeing the future or I'd be beginning and ending this sentence simultaneously while knowing full well where I'm not going as I look at where I've not been. Silly old headless tack.
As he was using the badger hair brush and it left a hair on the varnish, I was triggered waiting for him to notice and remove it, lol! Lovely work, as always.
Baumgartner: "Well hello, how are you?" Me: I mean I'm doing okay, could be bett- Baumgartner: "Well you're in my conservation studio so you're probably not doing that well" Me: well...I do like to watch your videos as a stress relie- Baumgartner: "Well let's take a look and see what's brought you here" Me: ...oh..the painting..right
"How do you know the varnish was fully removed?"
Julian: "...I can SEE. With my EYES."
I would probably just use my tongue and taste the difference lol
Because he can see using xrays or black light. In this case only with his eyes. :)
Julian picked up his hammer and saw
@@tektuno he is not using black light non stop. He can see difference in texture and lighting. Varnish is shiny and paint is matte
@@badworld02 stop lol
"If i'm not in the mood to retouch, well i don't retouch"
imagine having this much power in your profession
That’s a luxury not many professions have. (- I‘m a nurse... and if I‘m not in the mood to deal with the 20 variations of green and brown, I still have to...)
Lol - I just don’t feel like pulling back the rods on this nuclear reactor today.
Helps when you have a backlog of work and your boss knows quality is king.
he's also demonstrating is the pillars of production.
Cost.
Time.
Quality.
You only get to pick two. From time to time the stars will align and you'll get your third but this isn't counted on and rarely hoped for.
He is his own boss so
Being an employee and an entrepreneur have their own plus and cons 😊
I work in the security field and it occurs to me that our jobs have something in common. If we do a good job, no-one will ever notice that we did anything.
Magical 💕
Good job 👏 😃
This is true of any goid job that are important to someone's comfort. The comfort of the soul is the gift of the artist. The work going into it must be effortless to those that experiene the result
The closest Julian ever got to murder was when he saw that patch covering the inscription and that the adhesive was non-reversible. (Without counting that painting he had to scrape for 84 years)
🤫 we don't talk about that dark time 😣😞
The shade... oh the shade!!!
it... was... polyurethane 💀⚰️🪦
The ship painting?
omg which one?! i have to see this hahaha
Julian’s Talents:
Painter
Chemist
Carpenter
Historian
and now we add Therapist to the list.
You forgot engineer, researcher, and probably other stuff I'm too tired to think of. Oh, right, all of the video stuff, the voice over, probably script writing, etc... Like, how is he so capable?! I'm like, ugh, the bathroom next to my bedroom is so far away, and he's out here just getting a ton of work done, so freaking artfully! I'd almost be angry with him, if I wasn't so soothed by him.
Don't forget narrator, storyteller, and businessman (he runs two businesses!)
*"It ain't much, but it's honest work"*
plus ASMRtist
Add translator: “For those of you who don’t speak conservator.” 😉
I loved realizing that she has a beautiful matching bee headband when you removed the varnish
OH I didn't even notice! That is so cool~
i've watched this video a bunch of times and your comment is the first time i've noticed too!
Wow she does! Wonder did he notice it?
I remember up at Kenwood House when I was doing a summer job with English Heritage, and I noticed that one of the Rembrandt portraits, of this nominally Puritan Protestant woman, had a jewelled hair ornament. Rembrandt had painted this sweet sad lady with a tiny ornamentation, maybe just a tinge of comfort in a cold Puritan world.
I noticed the headband this time and have watched three times before
Imagine if he just shouted randomly. We would all fall out of bed.
*glad I’m not the only one
Severely underrated
and wake up lmao
I would panic lol
100% agreed! hahahaha
You gave me my laugh of the day. Probably the week. Thank you!
The little lovehearts made by the rounded off keys are adorable.
I really liked the heart shaped keys too.
That was very fresh.
IKR? I love what those look like once everything is together.
Dear T.W.
👍👌👏 I instantly thought the same about the 💚- keys.
Best regards, luck and health.
I thought the same thing! So pretty and fits perfectly with the painting
Julian: "I wouldnt want to do anything, like put a big patch-"
GO OFF I GUESS
The shade....😂
“I don’t want to put a big patch that would cover up the inscription and make it impossible to read”
The past conservator: *sweating intensely*
THE SHADE HE THROWS AT PRIOR CONSERVATORS THAT DO DUMB SHIT MAKES MY NIGHTS
"advanced trigonometry"
_folds paper_
me: truly a master of his craft
I'm sure it''ll be on next weeks exam.
oh no this reminded me of school oh god-
I feel like Einstein now!
I laughed so hard at that comment 😆
The most impressive thing about all of this is how he manages to hammer the tacks SO CLOSELY to his finger without hurting himself.
In a previous video he said that he hammers his own thumb all the time, he probably just cuts it out of the videos
I didn't realize he was talking to the painting in the beginning, I just assumed he knows that all of us flock here to get our dose of serotonin
Ah but you see... *whispers it’s both!*
Melatonin*
@@pedromaldonado2826 no
@@pedromaldonado2826 serotonin as in dopamine, not the sleep-inducing chemical.
*dopamine
Julian: *talking*
The varnish brush: “SWISH SWOOSH SSSHHSHHSHSHSHSZHHZHZHZHH”
Came here to say the same
Oh man exactly
Such a disrespectful brush
Kinda whant to hear him beat the devil out of
@@WhiteDaft ye how dare the brush
When he got to the point where he was placing felt on the painting to protect it from the clips I suddenly got emotional thinking of the creator of these paintings. I don't know who they are or how old these paintings are but I'm sure a number of the artists are now dead, and I was thinking of that person watching from the beyond as he repairs their painting. Placing cloth on the surface to protect it just felt so reverent and holy and I can't imagine being the person seeing this stranger take such respectful.. almost loving care of something _they_ made. Something a person made with their own two hands, touching and putting themselves into every square in of that piece. It really is a beautiful thing.
great comment, OP. despite the fact that for the duration of the 1 or 2 minutes it'll take me to write this reply, I'll be thinking about what giraffes taste like in the context of your nickname. what's great about being respectful and loving is that it can be applied to ANYTHING and ANYONE... all can be treated as a piece of beautiful art. all it takes is making the decision to do it (easy) and keeping that behavior consistent (difficult).
❤️
As the back says it was painted in 1866, yes, I'm pretty sure the artist isn't alive anymore. 😝
Now you got me emotional dude, jesus 😭
No to much going on in your life Huh? "You got emotional " Get out, and live life and THEN say that.
Julian: “I’m going to highlight some areas in green that read odd under a black light”
*starts circling the entire painting*
My teacher highlighting issues in my essay
Baumgartner: Well you're in my conservation studio so you're probably not doing that well
Me: *thinking that he was talking to me and not the painting* 👁️👄👁️
Girl same
Mood
it is a comfort show for me
Same🙄
Same..... he wasn’t wrong tho
Can we talk about how sassy and salty Baumgartner is? Like he will throw shade to the previous restoration throughout the whole process. I love it.
But he’s always so polite while doing it
Hahaha
this makes me a bit uncomforable in some ways, was the previous restoration a best effort with resources and knowledge of the time, much like hes using the best effort and knowledge of THIS time in history, could well be in 50 years someone is like "why the heck did this guy use this varnish we all now know that its not as stable as claimed and could degrade the canvass" or something like that..
the best knowledge, materials and practice of one time can be woeful in hindsight and today we may do things that the future will see as bad too
@@Simon-ho6lyyeah I don’t like how harsh he can be
@@Simon-ho6lynot true. most of the restoration methods this guy uses (and conservators in general) have been common practice for decades or even centuries. yes, our understanding of chemical properties and the aging process of certain materials has improved, but the techniques are the same. the previous restoration effort was pretty lazy and sloppy for any time period
Note to self: buy bee earrings to achieve a punk rock aesthetic
Imagine not already owning bee earrings for the punk rock aesthetic
@@wearethechange128 ikr?
I want it too!
bee earing was from Minoan civilization in ancient Greece from Crete island .
@@panosveto5729 okay
can we talk about how the keys look like little hearts
Yes I noticed that too!
I WAS LOOKING FOR A COMMENT THAT SAID THAT BECAUSE THEY’RE SO CUUUTE
I thought that too!
and the overall back frame look like a silhouette of a bee :)
Bee wings!
I love that Julian is getting more comfortable on camera and cracking jokes, someone get this man more clout he deserves it
Yes, that's the development I'm really enjoying too! Adds so much extra entertainment and cleverness to the content... 👌
I wonder if, in two hundred years, a future restorer is going to say "Oh yeah - that Baumgartner guy did quality work."?
I just imagine them taking of the striplining and wondering why there were hidden tacks
Time: 2221: "Of course, the conservator of this painting had no way of knowing that Belgian linen would provide the perfect breeding ground for Jovian fungus."
If the original materials brief is included with the painting, they'll definitely say flattering things, even if they don't agree with his retouching, because it'll make their own reversal just that much easier.
Of course
please, what is the name of the small nail that uses to stretch the screen on the chassis? why use nails and not stapler?
"No one will ever see this tac"
501k people: interesting.
1 Million 300 thousand more people agreed!
I doubt there have been many tacks seen by more people 😎.
Insect jewelry was the fashion at time, because of Egyptian archeology brining the scarab design to Europe. The interest went so far as wearing live insects on chains or in small cages
😱 Um. I can see where that'd be effective with one of those enormous iridescent Amazonian jungle beetles for example, but... eeesh!! Nasty thing to do to the insects, and just the thought of those spiny little feet perhaps touching one's skin through the jewelry cage... double eeesh!!
Thank you for this, Walter. You have brought even more important information about this painting to my heart. A young girl keeping with the times by wearing a real looking insect in her ear. I love it.
I love that she also has a row of similar bees in her hair. You can see them when he is removing the varnish from around her eyes. They are visible at the beginning as well but harder to see under the yellowed varnish.
Thank you for the observation! The idea of wearing a live insect in a cage horrified me! The discovery of a large Palmetto bug on my coat turned me into a screaming masher! However I had to go out on the internet and check. Sure enough, Truth! I have bought and carefully sewn down iridescent beetle wing casings for a specific effect. The insects are specifically raised for the purpose in Asia. I have Bee broaches in my stash as well, but they are suitably metallic!
gotta say, as an artist, i am always very entertained by the amount of reverence he has in his voice when he says “what the ARTIST WANTED......their CHOICES..” bc half the time i’m just like uhhhhhhhh maroon looks cool i think
Sameish. I'm an author, and when people comment on my "plot choices" I'm always like "haaaaa yeah, I don't control them, I'm just taking notes."
Same, he was talking about the background, and as an artist, im usually like "ugh yeah, ig this solid color looks pretty good with the rest cause I don't feel like doing a cohesive background" (ofc, in the context of my own work, obv portraits are different)
but that decision is still worthy of great respect, even if you don't think it's an important choice. it's still a choice you make when you make your art simply because it's your art. no one has a right to override the decision you made for your art.
Yeah, I'm like..." oh, I kinda like this color" or " maybe blue, idk?" when I'm coloring in my sculpts (3d character/environment artist). It's gonna be funny watching people try and figure out the motivations I had for my work lol.
As a writer its just as ludacris. "What exactly do you mean by this? Is it the character's disdain for those around him and his situation?" Bitch he sat down because his legs hurt what
Me not going to therapy:
"We're going to put you back together and send you on your way, bold and beautiful".
*cries* OK.
Excuse me it's spelled "Beeautiful"
😂
Just watching this videos is therapy!
Oh my god me too
This hit me hard. ❤️❤️❤️
Watching Julian tack the canvas onto the back of this painting makes me want to see the state of his sock drawer. I feel like his whole life lines up cleanly like this...
"I wouldn't want to do anything, like put a big patch, that would cover up that inscription."
Ooooooh he throwin shaaaade
I love how he passive aggressively disses the old conservators who did bad jobs. It makes me laugh every time.
yeah throwing shade at someone who is in all likelihood dead and who did not have access to the same materials and technology that we do now. mature
@@apseudonym it’s not that deep bro
Julian: ,,...and if you haven't noticed, this painting is not square"
Me: It's a triangle
Julian: ,,It is oval"
Me: Precisely what I thought
Somebody skipped a peg-and-hole class, didnt they?
lol, you make me cry.... ajajjajajajaaja
That was a good one! 😂
hahahahahaha
No it's a triangle
"the patch covers the inscription which is a big no-no"
me, knowing nothing about conservation: THEY DID WHAT? OH HELL NO
"Thats right. Because you don't know anything." Damn Mr Baumgartner.
the last time my dad said that to me i failed life
"Oh yeah that's right, because you don't know anything"
love knowing julien got his wits from his dad
“I can even smell the difference” juilien you restoration god
i love how he's gotten increasingly confident in his videos and it's endearing to see what else he has in store:)
Seriously agree! they’ve become a well oil machine of a production!
that isnt how the word endearing is used
Let's say: It's endearing to see how much more comfortable Mr B is on camera now, and tantalizing to see what he might attempt next as a result of that. 😉 I particularly enjoy seeing how much his natural sense of humour has become incorporated into the videos, makes them even more fun to watch!
I love that his dad was like "what are you doing? You don't know anything." and 19-year-old Julian was like "you're right but I'm gonna figure it out" and I think that's really beautiful.
I'm 19 as of writing this and I really am struggling a lot right now, hearing this and knowing that it's okay not to know what to do really touched me, I think I struggle with that a lot and am always too hard on myself, lately my mind often wanders to suicidal thoughts and It's hard to keep hold of something to help me through these times, I go to therapy and I want to persevere and try to get better for my own sake and for the hope that I'll see to a better day and a brighter future. I don't know if anybody who is going through something like this will read this, but I want to believe that there is a way out of this.
One step at the time, we've got to be kind towards ourselves too.
@@robertoferri9092 i just turned 20 and 19 was the hardest year of my entire life!!! you’ve got this, it truly is one foot in front of the other until you painstakingly learn to live in a way that is much happier.. you cant tap out now! you have hardly experienced anything yet:) sending u love
@@You-th3cn thank you, I've been better these days but it's not an easy road for sure, regardless, I've got time ahead of me to figure everything out and that's helped me a bit to calm down
19's a rough year. 18, it's like 'WOW, I'm an adult now??' and then the next year it's 'I'M NOT PROGRESSING FAST ENOUGH.'
Everyone moves at a different pace and there's more than 1 way to be successful. Some days are harder than others. And you don't see progress *because you're always looking for it* Progress is something you don't notice til enough time has gone by. One day, you'll look back and think 'I wasn't able to do this 3 years ago'
Accepting that fighting with your brain in order to keep living is going to be your reality....it's rough. You can't help that. What matters is you're actively striving for a better life for yourself. And that's admirable. I'm 27. I have a mental illness that I take medication for. We're in this sh!t together!
My father always told me i knew nothing. One day he said it and i asked "does anyone?" And he smiled amd said "i take it back boy. You know more than most of the men u work with." He was never putting me down. He just wanted me to learn while it was still easy to.
The more Julian talks about his father, the more I imagine him being a Tywin Lannister of conservation world
☠️😂😂
Tywin is how I'd want to be in my profession. I already act like im at that level and for the most part I'm right so i suppose I'm at a tyrion level at least
"dad do you think people will like it if I give texture to the varnish?"
"The lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep!"
"Textured varnish it is"
"the artist made deliberate choices on that background"
_sweats and nervously glances at my painted backgrounds_
haha, yeah? artists do that?
Yeah, he said that and my response was "I guess you could call 'laziness' a 'deliberate choice' if you wanted to flatter me, but let's be real here."
FINE ARTISTS
Sometimes the blank void is your aesthetic, like with John Oliver on Last Week Tonight during these trying times.
ASDFGHJKL MOOD
@@mndlessdrwer Yea he's just making depressing episode after depressing episode the past few months xd
Hahaha. That new intro with the scraping and brushes revealing the logo feels very reminiscent of my childhood watching PBS shows. Something about it just takes me back.
Agreed tho- ༼ ಥ ‿ ಥ ༽
Bob Ross vibes
Yep. Feelin the nostalgia
HA! I ruined the 69 likes! Mwahahahaha
@@tillytakestallys THIS IS LEGENDARY!!!!
I can never ever hear enough of Julian explain how he does the same things again and again. It's reassuring and I love it 😊
I love how he keeps saying "We", as if I am there helping him to heal this painting :)
or maybe "royal we", or "majestic plural" (pluralis majestatis) :D
I love how you say ‘heal’ the painting! So apt!
We are in spirit lol emotional support from afar
I really thought we were getting called out when he went “how are you?.. probably not all that well” like thanks Julian I didn’t come here to get roasted
I’m not a “conservator”. Don’t @me!
I assumed he meant that comment in relation to the current world situation, many of us AREN'T doing all that well. If you felt triggered by his comment, you might want to take a look at why. I hope you ARE doing well. 🤗
Ah, my mistake! He was talking to the painting! That's what I get for leaping before I look! LOL
my favourite part of this painting that you couldn't see pre-restoration is the bee hairband, like this outfit is absolutely on point
I love how her bee earrings match her bee ribbon headband. You never even noticed that detail with the old varnish. Wonderful job done. Thank you for this restoration. ❤️🥰👍
Noticing the ribbon/headband at the end made my day
I really want to make that hairband/ribbon myself! I’ve got some synthetic velvet-type fabric. Where do I find the bees?
@@KristenK78 Ebay or Etsy should have them. Look for bee charms or bee jewelry blanks.
@@KristenK78 try looking on Etsy for bee buttons or Hobby Lobby for bee charms in the jewelry making section. If you want cloth bees you might be able to find small appliqués. Good luck!
YES! Thank you for this comment, because I probably wouldn't have seen it if I hadn't saw this comment before we got there! :D
Julian: "... is key"
Me: here comes the sponsorship transition
I ain’t even mad it’s so smooth
i hope he continues to do that so the long time fans would immediately know what’s up
Commercial cuts are really annoying
The segue to the paid promotion is not smooth, but it doesn't matter. Not all transitions can be smooth.
Usually I see the transition coming, but today I got caught off guard
I love when he politely roasts the previous restoration.
I feel like Julian is not only a great craftsman, but also a master teacher. He has a way of repeating information between videos in a way which never gets boring. Its hard to believe we get to not only watch but also learn his craft in such depth, for free. We truly live in a wonderful world.
This video has as of Dec. 2024 almost 2.5 million views. That shows a lot of interest in Julian’s content.
"I can see..with my eyes" the power of Julian is unmatched
If there was an award for seamless translations, Baumgartener would be a gold medalist
Those keys making little heart shapes honestly made my day
I noticed that too! So cute!!
Find a man that treats you like Julian treats his tacking edges.
You're Goddamn Right!
There are so many inappropriate jokes to make...they're RIGHT there.
@@alex0589 Something about stretching, folding, and banging comes to mind.
@@GeirGunnarss Nailing too
Where's the lie, tho.
I find it charming that the keys turned out to form hearts, which to me is a visual representation of the love you put into your work. I know, that sounds corny, but it makes sense to me. Your work is exquisite. I am grateful that you make these videos to let us in on your process and provide rich information about the paintings as they are when they come to you, the decisions you make about how best to care for, restore, and conserve the paintings for the enjoyment of the owners and all others who see it, your work on the painting, and the beautiful, often breathtaking, results of your work. I have to imagine the reactions of the owners as they see the painting anew, and what a future conservator might think about your work when next this painting needs attention. I can’t imagine that that future conservator won’t appreciate the quality of your work and the care you took to make everything you did reversible, making their job easier.
The only problem with this channel is, I want to watch way more content then it's possible to create. I just love it so much.
I feel you
youtube comments: how do you know when the varnish is gone?
julian: well i can see with my eyes
youtube comments: genius
i for real had to pause at that moment and give it a good laugh, he said "i can see with my eyes" and my brain just stopped hearing after that, as if that was the whole answer
I guess it's the same situation when math teacher watn's you to prove that it's a triangula.
- Well i can see it with my eyes
I love the way you say “we have to take care of” it’s a subtle but strong way of truly engaging the viewer
Who’s gonna take care of my issues, put me back together and send me on my way... why am I jealous of a painting?
Hm, probably a therapist might help at this job
@@noodle714 tell me something I don’t know. Why do you think I watch these video’s 😂
You are only being jealous of yourself. I recommend having a frank conversation with you, and ask yourself what it is you have that you wish you had?
Life's varnish has dulled and yellowed yet I'm not looking forward to another isolation layer.
That’s you fam. You are capable of taking care of yourself and putting you back together.
He approaches his conservations like a surgeon would a patient.
i remember when my doctor hammered tacks into me for 25 minutes, that wasnt a great day.
@@alex0589 my doctor gave me the god forbidden staples!
@@finn5286 .
Mine too!
Fortunately I can't even see a glimmer of a scar.
10:14 doctor: *yeets patient on back*
Anytime I have insomnia I come here and let this man soothe my anxiety away with just how calm and assured he is.
I know nothing about painting restoration but I have the audacity to think “who was the bozo who tired to restore this painting before him!??!”
Lmao the fool
Oh god... Then u should watch the brawler. It will leave u raging (and the comments are gold!)
Hahaha same
People probably ask this a lot, but I would love a video that shows what your average workday is like. Like, how many different paintings you work on in a day (since you often say you can't work on just retouching or scraping up varnish for too long a stretch without losing focus), and how much you spend dealing with clients, writing up the results of painting examinations, etc. A "while I had X painting on the hot table for 2 hours, I worked on Y" sort of thing.
Those highlights in the eyes are stunning once the varnish is removed
Baumgartner: Well, you're in my conservation studio so you're probably not doing that well.
Me: Dude, you have no idea. I'm hanging on by a thread that's fraying more than the Belgium linings you always use, things have been really tough and watching you restore paintings give me more hope than therapy ever manages to.
Baumgartner: ... I actually meant the pai-
Cameraman: No, no, let her finish.
@ Adriana: I hear you..😁💞
Haha, excellent. Exactly!
Beautiful
Me sick in bed watching this
I feel this so much.. Your reply was much more clever than mine..
julian roasting the living daylights out of whoever put the patch on the signature is my favorite part
I always love Julian's roasts of previous conservators.
This painting is so beautiful. I feel like we as the audience get to know the subject, get to feel who she was. The way she stares right at you, and the little smile she has--I wonder what she was like. She seems like she would've been fun to have a cup of tea with.
Her eyes really are extraordinary, so much character in them. Really appreciated the prolonged zoom on them.
That earring looks like a native British black honey bee that was nearly lost when grand tours of the continent introduced yellow honey bees from the Italian Mediterranean to the British isles.
We have black bees?!
@@AStrawberryPie yep. And red squirrels.
@@constancemiller3753 grey squirrels dominated the red squirrels and said bye bye
that's cool are bees your intrest?
@@constancemiller3753 I saw a loads of red squirrels up in the Lake District when I was younger, sadly they seem to be really really rare now in the last ten years
Julian: Well hello!
Me: Hi!
Julian: How are you?
Me: I'm ok.. i guess..
Julian: Well, you're in my conservation studio, probably not doing that well.
Me: Actually yes.. I'm a little bit s-
Also me: *realize he was talking to the painting* *dies*
I just love it when Julian talks about “us as conservators” and “our love of art” ☺️💕
“Paintings don’t have patina, they have....dirt”. 😂
Answer to the question, "Why not leave the old varnish as "patina"? Because no one wants a fair, pink complexion to look sallow and sickly.
"Patina" is, pardon my French, merde. It's dirt, it's decay, it's oxidation. I did furniture restoration for a spell, and it really grossed me out how some folks didn't understand that their precious patina was just a hundred years of ground-in dead skin cells and tobacco residue. The original woodworkers and tailors would've been aghast that people wanted to preserve filth on their hard work.
Cars don’t have patina, they have rust and damaged paint.
(Fight me, rat-rod boys!)
@@TheRealColBosch While I tend to agree that most furniture does not warrant the gross, sticky residue some refer to as patina, there ARE some cases where a patina is actually added by an artist. For instance, when I made a frame with beautiful carving, I added a paint called patina to add emphasis to the carving and made the recesses stand out on a guilt paint to keep it from looking flat.
When I made a stained glass panel or window, I purposely use chemicals intended to oxidize the leading lines because bright shinny silver solder distracts from the glass while dark grey and smoothly colored lines recede and even out to become part of the design. Though a few designs do call for a "copper" patina that well, looks like a dull copper.
The white filler reminded me of 'spirit photography'👻
Never thought id have a crush on a painting. She is so beautiful
Wow, how does he even know...Oh. He's talking to the painting. No, I got that. We're cool. Coolcoolcoolcoolcoolcool.
I'm an author and I don't think Mr. Baumgartner knows just how profound some of the things he says are, and watching his videos does something to my brain and increases my creativity.
The fact he put a smiley face in the middle of his outline for the tacking edge makes me so happy
Julian: the adhesive on the patch is not reversible
Me after 2 years of watching Julian: who does that?! Every conservation should be reversible!!
Yeah he used contact cement what an amateur! lol
Julian: You're in my Studio so you are probably not ok
Me: how did you know!?
...
Me realising it was about painting: oh
I was just about to make this comment! I did the same thing!
Haha, same!!
same.. I feel like it's a popular sentiment..
Man, the past really speaks to you through these paintings. I cannot really comprehend why watching you restore these pieces back to life makes me so happy, but it does. Thank you.
julian sounds like a college professor trying to teach kindergarteners and i find that very fascinating
Let's face it, 99% of us here don't have 2 clues about it. One's lost and the other's out looking for it. However, we now know just a itty bitty, teensy weensy, miniscule bit about art restoration. Washi kozo!
@@icouldjustscream Washi kozo!!
I feel like he'd be great at both those jobs after all this display of patience...
@@icouldjustscream And the evil of staples. Who would have known that those are just toys of Satan.
And he has a very soothing calm voice.
'The adhesive here isnt reversible'
Me: *HISSSSS*
UNACCEPTABLE
NON-reversible?? **throws whiskey glass into fireplace**
There is no fire in Hell hot enough to purge this sin.
Not a vibe!
Me removing stickers from Ikea furniture: "I'm basically a conservator"
My favorite thing about your videos is how much love and care you have for art. Hearing you talk about the paint and what the artist wanted you to see and the little details you k it by overlook is absolutely amazing! I’m a painter myself and it brings a tear to my eye to hear you speak so highly or art and the artists. Thank you
"The idea that we would leave this material that has changed, and the artist didn't know would change, would betray the artist!" Oh like all of Van Gogh's work? Chrome yellow was new when he painted and he loved the bright color--but over time it gets all musty brown. The sunflowers he is so well known for USED to actually be bright yellow. And people continue to applaud his "vision and uniqueness" making them brown. xD
I disagree with varnish though, I think they DID know it would change, I mean it's not like they didn't have old yellowed paintings around. The more I think about it the more I think that dark greenish, grey background was intentional. The blue sky's of centuries past had turned those sorts of shades so by starting with that 1. it wouldn't look as bad as it yellowed and 2. it would "match" the older paintings.
@@mwater_moon2865 I agree with you on this, but I don’t think they did it as part of the “look” of painting per say. My thoughts are they definitely knew about it and knew it would happen, so they took whatever precautions they could while painting so that in the future the yellowing varnish would hopefully be less obvious and distracting. Also it takes a literal lifetime for the yellowing to occur and likely would not be noticeable by the artist or recipient. If they had access to varnish to they knew 100% would never yellow, some would have used it. And the ones that didn’t use it and continued using the historic varnishes would have done so out of either tradition, or out of fear.
I can say though, if I spend countless hours painting something I considered a masterpiece, I would stick to a varnish that is absolutely proven to not cause damage or destroy my hard work, even if I knew 50+ years later it would yellow slightly.
tbh Julian's attention to detail on the tacking edges makes perfect sense. I've been sewing since i was a kid (to various degrees of success) and clean, neat seams on the inside of a garment really do add a lot to making it seem pretty and professional, even if you don't see it while the clothes are on. It may not matter to a passive viewer, but little details like that can really make the piece so much nicer for the person who owns it.
(also the way you can see the scissors struggle with the Kevlar thread before cutting away.... ooof. i feel that)
I was thinking, Not with the fabric scissors!
I continue to be impressed by the number and variety of Julian’s tools.
"Welcome to Baumgartner fine art restoration. We're going to take care of all of these issues. We're going to put you back together and send you on your way" Love the energy in this video? Sounded like he was talking to us and I needed that tonight omg
People restoring paintings back then:
*Man this is easy!*
People restoring paintings today: What the hell were they thinking?
Similar to coding:
Who was the idiot who wrote this buggy crap.
Ohhh it was me
Back then? This is recent on the scale of things. The person who done did it, might be alive...
"nobody will ever see this over painting anyway" XD
They never said "Man" back then.
I thought he was talking to me... I said "no, not so good actually, how'd you know I come here to feel good?" and started crying... then I realized he was talking to the painting.
Wait wait wait... This man is nearly 40? Julian has some amazing genes, because he looks like he's 25.
He's FOURTY
He is, indeed, a very skilled conservator
Dang I did not realize that
wtf are saying...
he conservated himself
Watching Julian highlight in green
My inner voice: "hmm, yes....I see"
My inner voice's inner voice: "You don't see a damn thing"
Lol BIG mood🤣
Mooooood
damn, that's cutting deep
Julian talked about areas that looked odd under the black light. Not retouching, but he circled them in red and then in green. Did I miss in the video where he addressed "fixing" those? Or that it wasn't what he thought? Or any comments on those areas?
@@veramae4098 I think he mentioned that those were probably dirty old varnish areas. So I’m assuming whenever he cleaned the painting it got addressed. In one of his previous videos he said he references back to the black light multiple times, so I’m assuming after he cleaned the painting he took it to the black light room and saw that it looked better.
I love how the keys in the back make a heart shape. Its a nice touch. Its beautiful. His work is so satisfying and his attention to detail and perfection is amazing.
I'm not even joking when I say I want to send this dude a painting so I can listen to his lovely voice more.
I'm currently in the process of ruining a priceless Vermeer for just this purpose.
LoL
Same, I absolutely love Julian
That would be a godawful expensive recording!
@@Erics_UA-cam_Handle you, too?😁🇳🇱
This man is giving psychological assistance to both viewers and paintings.
Yea, not a fan of it. It seems cheesy to me.
@@devonriley3275 You been here long? He's got a bit of a cheesy sense of humor.
@@devonriley3275 We do not accept Julian related criticisms
@@katescrimgeour3884 why
Its like watching xanax. I love this channel.
Its genuinely so enchanting how much effort and care he puts into every piece
1. Now you can see the matching bee headband which is awesome!
2. The tucking in of the strip lining on the back is the most beautiful and satisfying thing!!
To all viewers who thought that "Probably not doing all that well" was addressed to you - I feel you.
Things are gonna get better, I promise.
You're strong and beautiful, you got this, I believe in you
Thank you.. I really appreciate that.
Nice sentiment ... I feel seen. 💕💜
Gotta love a parent who tells his adult child that he doesn’t know anything!
StOp I’ve felt called out twice now lmaooo nooooo
@@carowells1607 for real! Certainly doesn't sound like his dad was the super supportive type "(
the only thing scarier than a disturbing movie is julians transitions into sponsored segments.
I didn’t even see it coming
he does them so well
I find those sorts of topic shifts strangely unnerving.
Bees are a symbol of hope, also a reminder of the fragility of life. Not just the earring, they are on a band in her hair. Seeing the contrast in the messages, I thought I'd look the inscription up.
Ann Wheaton Cozzens was the daughter of Mary Sophia Cozzens, who died in 1866. The possibility is that this is a portrait of her mother in early life, and it was over painted with the bees as a commemorative act on her death. Ann's father died the same year. This is unlikely to be Ann herself, who was 38 at the time. This is the height of the Victorian cult of death of course.
Any thoughts?
Just noticed at the very end, that the artist's signature says 1866. And Julian says A M Cozzens
Love this back story! This has given more life & insight into the painting 🤗
@@stevejm9942 in
Thanks so much for doing this research!
How lovely of you to do this for us all! Bumble bees are my sign from my daughter who died in April 2019. Much love. 💕🐝
@@amazinggrace5692 May she rest in peace. That must have been very difficult to deal with.
Julian painting over the overpaint: LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!
I literally heard myself suck in my breath in a gasp on the reveal it was so beautiful, and I laughed at myself ! Evidentally, I'm not alone in thoroughly enjoying watching this master artisan work. Thank you, Julian, it is my pleasure to watch you practicing magic.👏 Pat. February 2022
Anyone have the thought “he’s gonna hit that back tack with the new tack” only to be satisfied when it happened?
Yes
Yes
Having the advantage of knowing what will happen as you look at what you know has already happened is not seeing the future or I'd be beginning and ending this sentence simultaneously while knowing full well where I'm not going as I look at where I've not been. Silly old headless tack.
@@luiscuixara4622 This is some serious Tenet shit bro
As he was using the badger hair brush and it left a hair on the varnish, I was triggered waiting for him to notice and remove it, lol! Lovely work, as always.
I knew I wasn't the only one who noticed!
I tried to brush the ‘dog hair’ off my tablet screen! Yes the dog is watching this with me.
I noticed as well
I really liked the theme here, and the painting was beautifully preserved. It's mesmerising
Baumgartner: "Well hello, how are you?"
Me: I mean I'm doing okay, could be bett-
Baumgartner: "Well you're in my conservation studio so you're probably not doing that well"
Me: well...I do like to watch your videos as a stress relie-
Baumgartner: "Well let's take a look and see what's brought you here"
Me: ...oh..the painting..right
Same
Same thing here, lol 😆