The hidden world of boys with eating disorders
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- While the conversation around eating disorders is usually centered around young women, close to a third of diagnosed cases are actually men. Despite that, experts say male patients are severely underdiagnosed because doctors have no roadmap to do so - nearly all the research around eating disorders have been focused on female samples. In this episode, Stay Tuned highlights the stories of two young men. Ryan, 17, has restricted his eating since he was 11. He was finally diagnosed half a decade later and sought medical treatment. Nathan, 22 and influenced by celebrity interviews, put himself on a strict diet to up his caloric intake so much, he’d sometimes throw up.. all in hopes of achieving that Marvel superhero body.
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Chicken broccoli and rice is code for steroids 😂
I can't do steroids because of a vascular problem, chicken broccoli and rice is all I've got lol
don't forget red meat as well in there
Is it really-??
@@erinthesystem9608 yeah it's kinda a meme at this point.😂
Some dumb people in these comments. This isn't anti masculine, theyre discussing eating disorders due to over masculine media. They even gave multiple examples of how we exaggerate "healthy muscle" in media compared to the 70s.
Exactly, being masculine is good but pursuing an unrealistic masculine ideal at the expense of your own health is not. Women often have eating disorders for similar reasons (pursuing an unrealistic feminine ideal).
Eating disorders and other mental health issues are underreported in men precisely because we have trouble spotting unhealthy masculine expression and because men are not encouraged to seek out help.
Agree.
Some? That's being kind. Many. Many are dumb.
To me, that's what "toxic masculinity" can mean: Shoving down feelings ("boys don't cry"; taking drugs/drinking; ridiculing females), only portraying a strong front (even before your partner); it's the thing that says asking for help when it's needed is a weakness, that human frailty must be hidden at all costs. It's a societal thing that eats males alive from the *inside,* and it is self-imposed, unnecessary, and helpful to no one.
Men can and do have body image issues. Im tired of society thinking its only a woman's problem
I think it’s becoming well known. Body Image issues are a human problem, not specific to gender.
I had a professor who told me he got an eating disorder during his time in wrestling because of the strict weight requirements. It's pretty common for wrestling to be the impetus for eating disorders in boys.
This is FASCINATING. I'm reminded of Gerard Butler saying he'd NEVER train again like he did for "300." He said it was torture and I believe him.
Why does it hace to be bland? Spices aren't fattening.
Yeah that's honestly confusing to me.
😂
It's psychological. They are literally afraid to "enjoy" food as they may start to see it as something other than related to their bodybuilding.
@@EmpressMermaid Good point! I think you hit the nail on the head.
*A spoonful of paprika actually does help speed your metabolism a little bit. (You'll need some water though)
As someone who reached the top of the professional bodybuilding world, I can see our unhealthy extremism of our type of dieting is running rampant here. Eating disorders among young men doesn't surprise me one bit. That with the urge to have to use steroids to keep up is truly sad.
Glad someone at least mentioned "the guys who want to look lean" for 2 seconds in 8 minutes about guys who want max gains to look like a bodybuilder. 2 seconds is better than 0, and 8 minutes on this topic at all is better than 0.
Eating healthy and lifting is NOT a disorder. However, if you listen to steroid abusing actors' advice you're being led astray.
But the the thing is they aren’t being healthy. force feeding yourself till you vomit chicken and rice isn’t healthy.
No, but obsessing on it is. It's easy to miss that, since the more you obsess, the bigger you get, the more admiration you get, and it becomes a viscous cycle. Just because you look buff, just because you can call your diet "healthy", doesn't mean you don't have an issue. How much of your time is taken up by obsessing on your diet, feeling guilty for skipping a day at the gym, etc? Your physical health may be top notch, that doesn't mean your mental health is doing well. (The "you" there is generic, it's not directed at you specifically).
@@wfcoaker1398 I can tell you anecdotally my mental and physical health is 10x better since i started eating right and lifting, truly a night and day difference. You have to approach it with a realistic mindset and as a beginner it can be difficult to find actual quality information. The real problem is unrealistic expectations and trying to reach goals by taking shortcuts instead of long term consistency. It also doesn't help that so many "influencers" are frauds and get their physique through drug abuse.
@@shmike3775 You sound like you're sensible about it. Not all of your brothers are, though. The thing about it making you "feel good" can be a trap, though. Bulimics and anorexics "feel good", too. That good feeling can be very addictive.
@@wfcoaker1398 i feel better because i have more energy, less stress, better libido, better mental clarity. I pay attention to nutrition and i maintain a healthy bodyfat percentage around 15 to 18%. I pursue strength and athleticism over aesthetics. One thing i will say is theres many different mindsets of gym goers and the one most responsible for unhealthy ideas is bodybuilding. Professional bodybuilding necessitates heavy drug abuse and unhealthy bodyfat percentages as well as carrying too much mass that can cause heart problems. Not too say all Bodybuilders are bad or unhealthy, but many are.
These comments are ignorant for the most part and I agree with the person who makes mention of how little time is spent on boys wanting to be thin versus muscular. There's nothing wrong with eating healthy and working out but you don't get where these boys were at by doing those things. It's about seeing oneself in the mirror as one actually is and making health choices based on reality not distortion.
I'd wager social norms and bullying play a huge part in this. Perhaps early education on how destructive they both can be would make a huge difference.
Being strong is realizing your own weaknesses and fighting them.
I like that! Stay strong!
Listen to your body guys and gals and encourage different things to eat and always work out (especially with weights, less running)! Maybe it's just a “time” thing or a “gene” thing as well. But listen to your body and hold yourself accountable to the type of discipline it takes to be lean&bulking up. I let myself go when my ex had our child, since 2020 I've been working on my mental, have a great relationship with my partner and working on my body. It's giving more energy and now I apply the struggle as a strength to becoming men! I hope this makes sense since English is my second language! Everyone keep your health and build your wealth for you and your family!
8:20 my man, when you feel the confidence.... Run with that confidence and use that positive energy! We as humans are batteries 🔋 with brains 🧠 and emotions 😆!
I hope more men get upset about this “missed three periods” thing with eating disorder diagnosis!
As a nurse and a person whose always been thin naturally I am seeing similar concerning traits in my 13 y/o son. His waist size is unchanged in nearly 2 years, it’s subtle but after a while it’s obsessive calorie restriction.
Hi. I'm not a medical professional. Have you thought about having your son evaluated now?
@@Mya_Sarah_Bellum yes he’s been in counseling (albeit difficult to find in my rural community with adolescent experience) prior to developing this behavior. I’ve shared it with the counselor as he doesn’t always tell her these things.
@@islandbirdw
P.S.
I don't have an ED. I'm trying to educate myself. I feel boys and men with EDs deserve much more attention in the media.
I'll always have the image in my mind of being Tiny, Skinny and petite. I've tried every diet under the sun. I even done OMAD. I'm 6'0 280lbs. I have natural muscles which I cannot stand. I hate being tall and fat and I wish I was 5'7 and only weighed 100lbs. I want to be little. Delicate. Petite. Frail. I hate being broad. Hate having muscles and hate being bulky.
Kid had packaged Hot Wheels in the background. I totally felt that! 👍
Ryan is 17???! Why does he look like he's 39!?? WTF!??
Possibly acne scarring(?)
That's the whole thing with eating disorders. They mess your body.
Wow. I hope he doesn’t read these comments. Way to make him feel more self conscious.
Yes men exist
I worked out for more than 50yrs, and i can only recall twice when i liked what i saw in the mirror. After
Thanks for the examples of illiteracy.
THEY NEED A BRAIN
TO LEARN TO EAT AND LIVE A HEALTHY LIFE.
SELF CONFIDENT !!!
This is not about body dysmorphia. This is not about chicken and rice. All these actors are taking drugs and a news agency can’t even acknowledge that fact, I don’t make this into eating disorders make this into the unfair, expectations, marvel and movies. The rock was in or do you know a whole bunch of different people who have ripped bodies to the gills full of test😂😂😂😂
I'm watching this while eating 3 pounds of food after getting a sick pump and I feel happy and wholesome. This video has not helped me identify any "eating disorder"
Yeah i had it when i was in my early 20's. Everyone said i was over doing it. But i still felt fat 🤷🏾♀️ i was looking for that perfect body. But it was never good enough. No matter how much i improved
ok but as a guy, mine STILL did start with Hanna Murry's teenage characters saying "I didn't eat for 3 days so I could be lovely" to me, the pre-teen audience . because its so blatant. easy to follow. black and white.
This is what happens when you listen to your unqualified role models. Would you go to an actor for medical advice? Would you go to a construction worked for financial advice? Would you go to Mel Gibson to address your sleep disorders? People need to get themselves educated instead of searching for bro advice.
Actors are relaying what their coach tells them to do for the goal of being able to shape yourself how you want to look
chicken and rice? that's like everyday Filipino food.
I'm sorry to correct the very bad misinformation in this video, but in 2022 the DSM-5-TR came out, and in 2012 the DSM-5 came out, and in 2000 the DSM-4-TR came out... The DSM-4-TR required only post-menarchal females to have to have missed their periods to be diagnosed as anorexic... that was the year 2000... The DSM-5 completely removed this issue completely...
So who do I contact I'm 6'5 and 150 lbs
What's the suggested weight for your age & height?
If you're trying to gain weight, there are 500-cal Boost shakes online you can buy. Those really helped me, although they're kind of expensive. (Seriously. I was very underweight, and it was the one thing that got me back near normal.)
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@@erinthesystem9608 my twin grandsons went through about a 9" growth spurt the summer between 6th grade intermediate school and 7th grade middle school & that was 5-6 years ago and they are 6' and 110 & just turned 18. Their ignorant doctors wouldn't listen when I repeatedly said they need about 50-60 lbs. While still 17 and seniors in high school I finally got a Gastro who has at least tried to help them gain weight by prescribing them 2 high caloric shakes a day. They've barely gained anything but are getting their daily nutrients. All my kids were healthy weights and I don't understand why it took so long for a doctor to get it given they look like Holocaust victims with their shirts off. They are prone to accidents and injury and I'd rather they didn't get their driver's licenses because I think they'd be seriously injured or killed if they got in to a wreck. Even normal exercise & sports games with peers of the same height and age but of normal weight can be very dangerous. If this sounds like your experience I think you need to get a doctor's appointment to find out if you have any underlying explanation for your weight. My grandsons doc also said to eat 3 high caloric meals and 2 healthy snacks between them like fruits and I've heard if you do fast short reps with light weights, I agree with you @Erin and believe anyone would gain some healthy weight if you are consistent with your nutrition and physical activity @WayPine
Using those (530cal) shakes, btw: I do have to drink about five of them a day to gain weight, and I am 5'1 and very petite. So I could see how it might be harder for a tall man to gain/maintain weight.
Poor little ones, living thrugh that.
Sam Sulek should watch this so he gets to see what he is doing to young impressionable minds, giving them an eating disorder and shaving years off their life through steroids.
Good! Never be satisfied. Always stay humble. Help others rise to the challenge.
I grew up with the Teletubbies, and felt social pressure to look like them.
I think that is simply eating (or adjusting your lifestyle) for a goal. What's being presented in the video is these guys setting unrealistic goals, so eating to achieve them seems like a disorder.
I disagree. These are people with dysmorphia: they don't see in the mirror what the rest of us see when looking at them. That is a major sign of having an eating disorder.
@@erinthesystem9608 highly probable there's a psychological dimension I don't fully understand. In any case must be hard to live not being at home in one's body
@@herunr4027 There's definitely a psychological aspect. The goals start out simply and innocently enough, but then they shift, along with your own perception of yourself. The eating disorder develops with setting rules for yourself, then kicking yourself for ever breaking those "rules." It almost develops its own rigid, harsh-taskmaster personality of its own. But an eating disorder is a very effective distraction- and an odd sort of comfort- when other problems have become intractable. It feels powerful to have mastery over oneself, to be "disciplined"- but, slowly, it comes to rule over your mind, body, and life. Eventually, you have to recognize that the disorder is NOT the unique, special you you were wanting to be. Healing from an eating disorder really is an inside job; otherwise, progress- weight maintenance, days without purging, whatever recovery looks like for you- will only be temporary.
*I wrote a way longer, nicer+better reply earlier, but accidentally deleted it around 4 paragraphs in🙄
The 21st centuty is Horrible!
I wish this program were longer!
It is refreshing to hear young men in recovery, finding strength again, and not having the same conversation about a "boy crisis" devolve into a forum for hating women.
(Too often, "uplifting" young men seems to depend on putting women down.)
I was often asked if Barbie had anything to do w/my anorexia- she didn't, but Betty and Veronica did (particularly their 45° jawlines)- but I never even noticed the difference in boys' toys over the years! I was diagnosed; my brother, meanwhile, still hasn't been diagnosed. There was a real difference, I think, for our parents: things which didn't fit their ideas of who we were just weren't heard or seen, or somehow didn't register with them.
Anyway, this topic can always use more exploration. So thank you!
Awesome
Sorry, I have no sympathy for a guy who’s eating four meals a day and working out
Why?
No way this guy worked out for 2 yrs and still has no muscle mass
he does, he just has a normal amount of fat cloaking the definition. A lot of people do steroids now even though they don't compete because they want results instantly and their body goal is Captain America like they showed in the video, so now the very low amount of body fat roid abusers have is considered "normal" and everyone expects for gym goers to look like Greek statues. The guy in the video has results that are very typical for someone who's natty
I don't know why, but I can increase my weight 😭
17 year old with body dysmorphia to have him pose with his shirt off and even had fake tattoos on his body. This didn't sound weird to the parent or a producer somebody? I don't think there's anything wrong child but I do think he's too young to make the decision to do this and I think a parent allowing him to do this is silly it still is facing his first name. I went to school with 1600 other kids each year in high school. I'm just kind of disappointed here.
Should had just juiced up. 💉 💨
🤷🏽♂️ 🤷♀️ 🤷🏻
JUST BE HEALTHY
Take more than chicken and rice to grow muscle😂. A lot of lifting even cardio. But here they go saying it’s a problem With eating as a men.
Yea, this vid is just stupid kids who just listen to celebs who says "chicken, rice and brocolli" (and tren)
That's cause it is, there is substantial evidence that men are substantially under-diagnosed when it comes to eating disorders.
This empty-headed idea that men shouldn't talk about medical issues is some clown behavior 🤡
It aint about wat u eat its about how much to get big
Chicken, rice and broccoli with cheese. For a week show good results.
It’s misinformation and a lack of knowledge. I eat anabolic pancakes and burgers and have abs year round.
😂😂😂
Don’t get strong, don’t lift weights, don’t eat to much, don’t push your boundaries, don’t be masculine. Cut off your weewee, put on lipstick.
Somebody didn't pay attention to the video, absolute clown 🤡
someone is triggered
I see that you spend no time outside
Weewee? Really? From a big strong boy like you? C'mon you can be more aggressive than that!
Strength was addressed well in the video: It's not about hiding weakness, but about owning one's weaknesses and transcending them. Mastering oneself is key, and it comes from a place of acceptance- rather than denial.
The strongest men I know are easy-going types, who like themselves and can take a joke without being ruffled; they respect both women and men, and would be helpful to either; they can have female friends without having ulterior motives. They are serious people, but they just don't take themselves *too* seriously. Men like that are pleasant to be around, because they genuinely like people. You can't like people, however, when you don't like yourself.
Changing one's outsides can give one a boost of confidence and a feeling of accomplishment, but expecting this to supply long-term confidence is usually expecting too much.
Ryan was cute when he was smaller. nathan needs to work on his thunder thighs more then his upper body.
Feminist propaganda
The most vidio on youtube that i watch tell man to eat healty food like rice meet and brocoli
This is feminist propaganda
Why is youtube promoting weird Mainstream Media anti-masculine content?
lol this isn’t anti-masculine. This important visibility for young men struggling with eating disorders.
Exactly, why should they talk about it? Don’t we all know real masculinity is covering up signs of weakness and never admit it? Lol
This is literally pro masculine. It’s pro men’s health. That’s masculinity
🤣👏🏼
It is anti-masculine
More “dismantle the patriarchy” propaganda.
someone is triggered
I would say this is true, but if that's the case. Why are there more obesity people in america than muscular, so all this has been debunked. Nice try. If you don't believe me go to your nearest walmart, And for the guy who says hes standing in the mirror every day looking at himself. I don't think that's a disorder because every human being including dogs and animals. Do the same thing so stop making stuff up. NEXT!
Stop being all butch and making your image disorder look "normal"!
Somebody didn't do to well in school I see. Over here like, " obese people exist so anorexia isn't real."
You are an absolute clown