18 Cores for $100, But What's The CATCH? | Budget Xeons Compared
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2023
- We're taking a look at an 18 core Intel Xeon processor that's almost 10 years old. It used to be an absolute behemoth, but how does it hold up in 2023?
We're testing three processor options: the E5-1620 V3, the E5-2670 V3 and the E5-2699 V3. We're testing the processors with Cinebench R23, 3DMark CPU Profile and 3DMark Timespy Extreme, Tomb Raider, Dirt Rally, Metro Last Light Redux and Cyberpunk 2077.
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It features more processors and less silly mistakes.
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1. The 13th gen i3s do have hyperthreading. I already know about this mistake.
2. At 10:00, I was referring to single core turbo, but misspoke and said multicore turbo. Thanks to @pascalfust1035 for letting me know.
3. Please stop correcting me on the price. I paid $100 AUD on eBay. If you got a better deal, that's great, but I am going to continue being honest about what I paid.
lol dont let them get to you, x99 is still insanely good value wise.... and new 12/13/14 and ryzen cpu still dont offer as many pcie lanes as these xeons.
@jb678901 dang that's not far off my i5-13600K and you probably paid less than an arm and a leg.
Those cpus are great value. Other than the known security vulnerabilities, there is no other disadvantage I can think of. And anyway, those vulnerabilities are too complicated to use, you're not Google for someone to target you, you're an average gamer, so.. I too upgraded to an old gen i7.
Who wants to support Intel after seeing what they support in israel? Boycott them until they stop supporting an apartheid regime.
@@jb678901 27,500 CB23 with my dual 2696's
Take a look at the 2697A V4 if you get a chance. They're around $100 or so at least on E-Bay in the US. They turbo to 3.6. The V4/Broadwell architecture with single core performance gains that were markedly significant along with 30%-50% power draw improvement that I measured on my Dell R730 boxes. They are an EXTREME value today. Especially when you can get a used HP Z series workstation dual socket for ~200-300 and load it with up to 768GB of memory. Another note, the more memory channels you use I've noticed that the performance increases significantly with the V3 and V4 series.
Which models are those HP Zs?
@@blorbb5398 z440 (UP 16xx V4) and z840 (DP E5 2xxx v4)
@@blorbb5398hp z840
all core turbo 3.6 wikichip says sth else, all core turbo is 2.9 or 3.1 or sth ?
2689v4 and that 2687w (not entirely sure about modelname) are better.
latter boosts to 3.2 as 12 core on all core as a v4.
and the 2689v4 is strongest single thread allover not considering consumer chips.
easily to lookup on passmark
@@yazi2879 3.1 all core on the 2697A V4 through my own testing. I suggested it specifically because of core count and price because the 2687W V4 costs a lot more especially socketed into used workstations for whatever reason. The 2697A was used in a lot of blades. It was sought after for scale computing but not for most workstations er-go lower pricing on the used market. It's a less known but extremely potent SKU.
Nice work on this! Has helped a lot!
When the pandemic hit and I went from working exclusively on a laptop to working at home I grabbed a dell T5810 fairly cheap (I think around $250) and threw in a E5-2678v3 for another $85 (you can get them a lot cheaper now). After newer stuff became available again I repurposed the dell as a Proxmox server. Considering that was 3 years or so ago now for $350 I got a ton of use out of it first as a workstation and then as a homelab server. Gaming wasn't very high on my list so I wasn't worried about the turbo unlock but the games I did play were fine on it. Currently in the process of rebuilding my homelab machines and am upgrading to more modern hardware but if budget is your biggest concern these CPU's still provide plenty of value though the higher spec 16xx's are probably the best for gaming.
so what are you upgrading to? whats your budget looking like?
Dude, I am so grabbing one of these on payday! Thank you!
Also, performance on Cyberpunk should go up with better multithreading utilization in the 2.0 patch from what the talk around is.
This isn't a gaming cpu lol
@@jb678901 💯💯💯💯
@@RTBOY954xEven better it's a server cpu, so very reliable
@@RTBOY954xthat's a server CPU that can do everything.
In Brazil the prices are expensive a lot of Brazilian people buy these CPUs they have a lot of cores very good for everything
A few months ago I upgraded my two HP Z6s with xeon gold 6154… I bought 4 of them for less than $150 each… one of them for $45! Amazing!
At 6:17... Slightly stronger than i5 12400 with 12454 in multi-core, but less than half in single core (1623 for 12400). Amazing result for cpu dating from 2014 though.
My Ryzen 7 5700g also 14215pts in multi-core single core 1480pts.
I've got a friend who does a lot of audio stuff, and the programs he uses seem to favor more cores. I sold him an i7 7700k (my used system when I upgraded) a few years ago which works well, but now his teenage son is wanting his own computer that he can use to lay some tracks. He's asked me to come up with a good affordable system to get him as a gift for the upcoming holidays. I think this will be an excellent value for what he needs out of a system, and will leave a lot of funds for better peripherals. I'm looking at ebay now and I can get a 2699 system complete with 128gb ram and a 1tb ssd for $375 which given the performance is an amazing price.
@@PeterEdwards1977 Pretty much anything can run windows 10, i am pretty sure with some tweaking even fridge or toaster will be win10 compatible. Win11 on the other hand...
I'm not using my E5-2678v3 for gaming, but for a homelab. It's perfect for Server 2022 Hyper-V implementations.
Thanks for the video! I have 2 dual Xeon systems and they are incredible! E5-2699 V4 and E5-2698 V3.
How does the v3 dual system perform?
Extraordinarily well! I've upgraded to v4's 18 & 20 core. Used for rendering and Ai upscaling. @@TropicDaKid
Great stuff im just starting out in cybersecurity is this a good cpu to start out with?
we're you able to enable resizable bar on your z440?
My editing machine has a Xeon E5-2698v3 16 core that has the all-core turbo unlock mod done to the motherboard bios as well as some undervolting along with 64gb ddr4 and one of those RTX2060 12gb gpu's from 2021 and that cpu is a fucking tank. I'm editing 4k60 video from a DJI Osmo Action on it and that Xeon barely notices hahahaha
It puzzles me why this guy didn't review 2696v3 instead of 2699
I'm using it for gamedev (UE5) and some video encoding, almost 18 hours per day..
the electric bills at the end of the month was.. breathtaking
Lol
Lol 🤣 try running 8 duel 2699v3 v4 systems 😂😆 doc thought the delorian took power lmfao 🤣
Still better then using 14900K for this job. That thing eats 200W on breakfast.
Awesome content ! Subbed.... Xeons are a great value ... :)
I really wanna take a closer look into some of these older xeons, in one of my systems I tossed a E3-1270 into my Dell Optiplex 790 and it ran well for it being Sandy Bridge but I do recommend using GTAIV as a test for these CPUs too because it is a very cpu heavy game
I remember GTA IV being super hard to run on my laptop back in the day
its kinda different story because its basically the same as i7-2600, but without graphics... also it's socket 1155
You really are held back by ddr3 for the sandy bridge and ivy bridge cpus. Unless you really can't afford to go into the Haswell chips and beyond, then possibly I would recommend someone going with an ivy bridge cpu.
I have an old HP Z 440 with an E1620V3. 32gb 2133 ddr4 and a basic K2200 Quadro. It also came with an SSD. $230 Australian. I'm going to upgrade the PSU from my 525 W to the 700 W so I can upgrade the GPU. I use it to do home video's on DaVinci resolve. I wanted something bullet proof.
I’m in a similar position. I got the z640 for the power supply, using a rtx 2070 super with a power adapter
Hi, great summary of the architecture, plus your graphs look great! What were your CPU temps? I found the stock cooler on the Z440 to be more than sufficient, but I am using Kryonaut thermal paste on mine. I just rounded off my own upgrades on my Z440 system and I was amazed by the price drops on the hardware (my last shopping spree was in Feb. 2022 lol). At the moment, the e5-2697A V4, as others have said below, is a great value item, as is the e5-2687W V4. Just make sure that all the seller photos have the CPU model number printed on the IHS. I mildly panicked when my CPU arrived without the model number printed on the IHS, but it benched as expected, so likely authentic.
@@serverscience Those are solid temperatures! Over engineered CPU cooler, you can't expect less from HP.
I can recommend obtaining the CPUs directly from Ebay USA. Also, the e5-2699 CPUs remain really expensive due to being the top of the range. I am based in NZ and it's the same here, local prices are unaffordable. But I just managed to get a e5-2697 V4 for my Z440 for $63 USD delivered (still expensive, but in April 2022 this CPU was $300 USD, I wanted a pair for my Z840 but it proved too expensive back then), as well as a pair of e5-2683 V4s for $38 USD delivered which I'll use in a Z840.
@@serverscience Great choice and epic find with that pricing! The e5-2697 V4 packs some serious punch and should suit your Z440 well. Are you video editing with your Z440? I wish the top of the line Broadwell CPUs would drop more in price but they seem to retain a steep margin (e5-2699 V4 is still ~$220 USD). I priced up the e5-2699 V4's at ~$500 USD in April 2022 when I upgraded my system and now they are much cheaper. My only complaint on these high core CPUs is the low base clock speed - in my experience it has really hammered gaming performance (but it's great for video editing etc.). At this stage I think I'll stick with the dated e5-2697 V3's and save up for the newer architecture (dual Xeon Platinum 8268's would be a dream, pipe dream literally lol).
@@serverscience one of the first steam achievements I remember with 3D Mark was from using a gpu that significantly outperformed the cpu. An RX 480 paired up with the fx 4300. Good times.
great video! also, the e5 2699v3 can easily be had for about $35! grab a $50 ali express xeon motherboard , and 32GB ecc ddr4 ($60?), and you've got 18 cores for under $150!
If you don`t want your mobo to fry itself you need to spend at least $80 on a mobo (e,g, machinist mr9a) that has the vrm for that cpu.
sure man.
@@smuggy8576
agreed!!
My friend build 3 xeon 2667v4 + 2060 super aliexpress machinist kits for him and his brothers for like 300-375 dollars, its a good bang for your buck machine thar will get you 80-200 fps depending on the game.
I cant imagine. Playing Baldurs Gate 3 on my dual Xeons was a huge bottleneck for my 1660 super. Granted those were v3 i think
@@ultravioletiris6241 I mean, dual xeons would be more of a workstation build that can do some light gaming, now days the best gaming xeon would be a 2667v3, can still kick some decent frame rate on a budget.
@@ultravioletiris6241That's when you use a higher resolution monitor. Put more of that pressure on the gpu instead of the cpu
@@ultravioletiris6241 i dont think anyone scraping by to build a frankenstein xeon pc would rly care abt bottlenecking.
I daily a 2699V3 with a machinist Chinese x99 board with the b85 chips set
With some bios modding along with the V3 turbo fix and changing the the minimum turbo multiplier values I'm able to reach 3.6Ghz on all cores
The problem with the 18 core is that the cores are split on 2 sectors that I forget what Intel calls them (think like amd ccx)
10 on one and the 8 on the other unit
I keep this cpu coolest with a 360mm evga AIO and paired it with a 1080TI ftw3
The ram is setup in quad channel 2800mhz and running with tightened timings (2800mhz is the rated frequency)
Definitely recommend trying the turbo unlock exploit on the v3’s. It solved a lot of the turbo clock issues and in-game stuttering I had with my 2696 V3.
For not too crazy gaming, consider a 2630 v4. I just got one in a Dell T5810 with 32GB DDR4, put a 6700XT in there and this rig absolutely kills. The CPU barely goes above 40°C and even under full load (CB R23) NEVER breaks 55W! Haven't had any issues in gaming whatsoever. Of course stuff optimized high-clocked single threaded CPUs will suffer, but this whole system with the GPU included cost 400 shipped and it crushes. Can't argue with the efficiency of that.
I use two Xeon E5-2696 V2 2.5GHz 12 Core 30MB on an Supermicro X9DRD-IF - Dual LGA2011 Motherboard, only for Mpeg/MKV Decoding in HEVC, and it makes a great Job for this. Total shopping costs approx. €85 + 40€ for 96MB-DDR3 ECC Ram.
Does this scale at all? so I want to spend $500 on my cpu, what are used xeons capable of and what are the pros and cons?
Excellent comparison, well thought out and displayed. I wonder how the E5-1650 v3 would fair in this comparison ?
1650V3 will be stronger in single threads, but for that better of getting the 1650V4. The 2699V3 has massive L3 Cache and that can impact depending on the task...
@@philscomputerlab Or the W-2135, which edges out the 1650v4
You can find those in prebuilt workstations easily nowadays and they come with case, psu, mobo, and cpu. They will be the next lowbudget trend with pc building.
I just picked up a Dell 7910 off Fleabay. Arrived in 3 days and in excellent shape. Has DUAL 2699 V3 18 Core Xeons (36 total with 72 virtual), 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD and a 4GB Dual Monitor Video Card. $400 with free shipping. KILLER SYSTEM. Next I'll upgrade the RAM to 128GB for another $75. :)
Did you tired turning off virtual cores? Cause it should improve performance by using more physical cores (most of programs dont use them nearly enough), but i am not so sure.
You should list the system specs in the description.
Thank you very much for this video!
Would it be good idea to pair 7900xtx or 4070 ti Super with 2697a v4, 2697 v4, 2699 v3 ?
I'm concerned regarding bottleneck.
My motherboard is Msi x99A plus, support up to 2699 v4, which is much more expensive than v3.
Which combination would you recommend to play 4K with 70-120fps?
Thank you for your great videos
I can't really say which card would be best because I only have a 3070 in my own system (with the 2699 V3), but the bottleneck for me at 4K high/ultra is the graphics card. I suspect it would be roughly the same story for the 3080 as well, but it depends a lot on the games.
I did another video with more of these processors and found very little difference between them (above 8 cores) with the RTX 3060, so the best processor for x99 is mostly which one is the cheapest (1680 V3, 1660 V4, 2699 V3 etc etc). On your motherboard, you should be more easily able to raise the power limit and unlock the turbo, so you'll probably want a V3 processor for that.
Regarding the bottleneck of PCIe 3.0 (compared to 4.0), it's roughly a 2-3% reduction in performance, so it isn't significant.
One major issue you might run into is bad 1% and 0.1% framerates in certain games, with the worst results being in certain ray traced titles.
I own a dual 2699 v3 system for my home lab. The thing is great for my use
Now we need Starfield test. That should put them cores to work.
2690v4 is a beast at gaming for only 30 usd or less,
@@robinbambach1458 It doesnt matter. To unlock max boost you need to disable all but 2 cores, in every other scenario it will boost to all-core boost clock and not higer. Unlocking max boost for all cores on the other hand...
@10:00 Not too sure about the information about the all core speed of the E5-2699 V3 that you mentioned. The 3.5 MHz you stated is not coherent with the information of Intel on All Core Turbo of this processor, which is meant to be around 2.8 MHz.
Yep, that was an error I didn't catch when editing the video because I misread the script. 3.6GHz is the maximum turbo speed for 1-2 cores (36x multiplier), which is what I had planned on saying. The comparison I was trying to make was between the two processor's maximum turbo speeds, because both the 1620 V3 and 2699 V3 turbo to 3.6GHz, but the 2699 V3 was only reaching 3.5GHz. Thanks for letting me know, I've added this to the pinned comment.
I have 2 of these in a dual x99 Chinese mobo and it's a killer!
Ordered a 2697 v3 yesterday for 20 euro. Can't beat that for a budget PC 😄
отличные процессоры для 2011-3: 1650v4; 2689v4; 2643v4; 2690v4; 1650v3; 1660v3; просто отличные процессоры! у меня самого два 1650v4 и сейчас жду доставку 2689v4? интересно что он из себя представляет, по факту это тот же 6950x только с заблокированным множителем, но с более высокими частотами по умолчанию.
E5-2699 V3 $40.66 here in the Philippines.
Lenovo p700 . Auction locked. Bios parts.
Got to run with a lot of time researching. With the update i used a different model number. But it ran. But not use all the board had to offer. Or software where not able to use too.
I have 3 p700.
I went crazy big buck new box. But there are no power supplies. Or adapters for power. So made my own.
2080 plus water cooled. Dual.
I did look 2699.
Then read so much more. But no v4 will not fit.
Thank you for your update. I join and thumps up.
Take care my friend ❤
nice analysis, I have a 10 YEAR OLD pc with a 3930k overclocked to 4.9 GHz for those 10 years. It's been a great cpu. It has a gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 motherboard that has again been really good. I am currently running w10 and apparently can't upgrade to w11. TPM1 vs TPM2 and so on. Yet with my RTX 3090 I can play modern games such as HZD and others at highest settings and perfectly adequate frame rates (I use a 4k TV at 60 HZ). Alas, I want to run NVIDIA Cuda containers, and run Dockers and so on that require more advanced virtualisation instructions such as AVX2 and AVX 512 and VT-d. Virtualisation does not like overclocking either. I also want to use NVME ssd's and even iOptane 'ssd/memory'. So it's time to move on. The cost of modern processors is prohibitive though and does not confer that much of an advantage over the older Xeon's - provided of course that those older Xeon's have the instruction support such as AVX2 and AVX512 and virtualisation support for running local compute CUDA containers and dockers for AI training and inference and so on. Any thoughts? Am I being greedy for wanting tho be able to play games on such a device as well?
:)
X299 should be a good choice (its a same thing, but next gen with all stuff you listed). Tho it is much more expensive then xeons, but it have pretty much all modern features. Optane is dead btw, intel discontinued it.
thanks for the reply, the Optane support in the form of Dimms is fascinating and still very performant for certain workflows, and now that once vastly expensive servers with this tech are now quite cheap it is possible to think about using such tech in my space. Think inferencing, digital twins, other forms of content creation that would chug hard at iterating over changes if optanes dimes weren't useful in that scenario. I will look at the x299. Not holding my breath though. A server/hew solution using older repurposed tech with buckets of ram/optane dimms/ and still able to have multiple gpu's is a fascinating possibility for AI experimentation and containerisation at the home/hobbyist level. And maybe allows for an air gap to get things done without the spook perverts forever rummaging around in peoples underpants, fiddling with their bits, taking their stuff ...@@alexturnbackthearmy1907
Until Sommer of this Year ( i sold it because i dont play as often anymore and if i do my laptop is enough for League ect ) i rocked a Xeon 1230 v3 with en RX 570 ( Cost arround 80 Bucks ) and could play bassicly anything i wanted to. Surely not on the highest Details but for on Full HD with 60 FPS no Problem .. and with FSR technology .. pff easy. For everyone with low Budget. Grabing en Xeon with en decent older Card like the Rx 570 - 580 or 1070-1080 is still a Good choice if you are on a budget.
I have an Intel X5650 on a x58 motherboard on a Dell T3500 with 6 cores, 12 threads and 12mb L3 cache.
I've got a system similar to yours with a Xeon X5670 on an ASUS P6T Deluxe v2 x58 board and a GTX 780 ti! It still runs just about everything I throw at it. I've been playing No Man's Sky and 7 Days to Die on it when I have a chance. Runs them pretty well! 👍👍
I upgraded my asus p6t to a 5650 like 10 years ago now originally it was an i7
I've also used a ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 with X5650's and X5670's years ago. It was my introduction to used Xeons and got addicted to their price/performance. :) But these days more and more software requires AVX2, that's the main reason I switched to Haswell-EP four years ago.
Been using xeon 2650 v2 for 3 years. It is amazingly fast.
Any of the E5-1600's CPU are overclockable?
v3`s are. v4 arent
I am curious. would you get more frames. If you was running it in quad channel mode?
So wait is the v3 or v4 better?!
this cheap cpus have always a catch that is the damn motherboards sometimes being incredibly expensive lol
I had a 2 or 4 core atom processor. Though not a gaming option, I was just wanting to run windows Vista level o.s. fast. It was very slow for my expectations.
For strong single-thread performance on X99, i7-6950X offers the best OC potential (Intel kept the best silicon for this SKU), but the used price for it is still too much for many people, compared to what the same (or less) money can buy you from the many-core Xeon line.
I run one of these, they are much better once you do the turbo unlock.
These old Xeon's are amazing deals if you are doing desktop or networking stuff. The abundance of PCI-E express lanes also is great if you are putting together a storage server. The only real downside is lack of integrated video (if you are only focused on desktop, and would prefer not to use some PCI-E lanes for a video card) as well as the high TDP. I've got a dual CPU Xeon server for a file storage server in my house and the whole system idles at 168 Watts. Which is really really high, probably double what a modern Ryzen system would idle at. 😔
@@salvationbygracethroughfaith I'm currently working on rebuilding a Dell server tower (with 8x 3.5" SAS backplane) and using a more modern motherboard with an i5-9600T. Should hopefully run much much more efficient (well, I know it will 😁).
@@betteranimevgmsoundtrackri4025 ...16 PCIE lines. On a server. This will be a disaster.
I am currently running a 2697v3 (14C/28T unit) with Intel Arc A770 and I have to say, for a 1440p machine... it is a great thing
Tho to be specific as mentioned above - at 1440p, since this is a place where more and more of the work gets dropped to the GPU if you care about gaming
I really would not recommend anyone to go into X99 anymore if all you do is gaming at 1080p, there are much better (and sometimes even cheaper, based on where you live) alternative, but if you are going for daily 1440p / 4k gaming and care more about strong GPU and CPU is secondary, then go ahead with those bases
Is it good to pair a 2696v3 with a 2080Ti for budget 1440P gaming?
Why didnt you just go with the E5-2695 V4 ..it the same price with the faster DDR4 speeds and has the same 18 cores.
The Base Clock @ 2.x ghz is more than enough for most of us and cores do the work easy. If you get cpu with higher base clock it will be HELL to cool any bloody chip......water cooling which will leak later or cooling maintaince😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖
I own the e5 2680 v4 chip, try modern games like starfield and any 2023 game should take the advantage of more cores
Even the devs are recommending at least 8 physical cores for 4k gaming
You should try that since no one tried to play starfield less cores at higher resolution
Games benefits at 1080p from the ipc and frequency a lot ( which means newer will deliver better)
Also there's the driver overhead issues when using nvidia GPUs with older CPUs
Starfield barely uses 30% cpu when rebar is enabled in my 3070ti
These xeon has 8 memory channel but consumer pc has 2 channel. If you need a lot of ram over 64gb for simulation engineering, file server then xeon win.
i recently started running dual W-3345's and it rips
I got 2699v3 for 40€ on Aliexpress. And personally run a 2697v3 turbo unlocked on my rampage board 3.4ghz all core with turbo unlocked
v3 xeons can have the turbo boost unlock mod done on them
Best video! Top info
The 2696v3 is better, with a slightly higher Boost speed. (3.8Ghz)
I have core i7 6800k and E5 2680v4 laying around and unfortunately I don't have motherboards which are insanely over price and I don't feel Chinese main boards are the good decision either
v4 chips across the board a cheap enough. The only things really holding up there are 2697 V, 2699 V4, and 2699A V4. I personally found the best bang for the buck single socket v4 being the 2683 V4. 16/32 2.1/3Ghz for under $20. Even 2697A V4 chips 16/32 2.6/3.6Ghz are around $63.
2679v4 is a very interesting chip. With its 20 cores and 200W TDP it has very high all-core turbo boost. Good luck finding it cheap, though. Or at all
great vid.
Also I wonder how it does with the emulation test, basically how many consoles work on this pc.
Quick question which is better the Xeon e5 you showed in the video or the i5-10400 they both go for around 100$ curious which is better
Depends. But its better to take 10400, even tho it is less powerful, these lga2011`s are old system after all.
You said clock speed is downside......mine rocking @3.8ghz all 18 cores....it's 2696 v3 though.......;)
2697v2 2.7 ghz 12 core here in Dell R720xd. Still a decent CPU.
Just bought a E5-2699 V4 (22C/44T)
Have a look at Xeon W. The 2135 is $25 and the 8 core 2145 varies. Cheapest way to get it is with a whole HP Z4 or Lenovo P520/P520c. You do get an upgeade path with a Sapphire Rapids compatible BIOS. I should say I got a P520C motherboard for less than $50, and the 14-pin to 24-pim power adapter it needs is $2-$15 depending where you source it. (You can also pin your own if you feel like it. I did til my adapter came).
Basically it's Skylake HEDT, 3.7GHz base, 4.5 boost. So if you at all have a need for 1- 6 or 8 threaded apps (*cough* gaming), I would go with Xeon W. Also it uses 2666MT/s DDR4
I would get a card with 16 Lanes: 5700XT ($97 new) or 6700XT or better (~$200 used), so the PCIe 3.0 won't be too much of a bottleneck anyway.
the v4 is 140 cad and 22 core 44 thread io mean dollar to core wise
E5 v4 xeons arent that bad but fall appart at if you want over 60fps experience with decent gpus, Recently was using a build with E5-2680v4 and RX 5600XT it was fine and for the 20 dollars spent on cpu cant complain tho. 14 cores and 28 threads :)
you nailed the main downside.. for all those cores, they're severely underpowered clockspeed wise..
paired with good ram and a capable GPU though, you more than make up for that shortcoming
Undervolt + underclock and you have a wonderful proxmox monster. NAS? Yep. couple of VM's... dozens of docker container... all that under 100w. And it can even run couple of software video encoders for your media streaming.
Just built a rig with a machinist board and a e5-2696v3, surprisingly this one has 18 cores, clocks higher than the 2699v3 (3.8ghz) and can be had for $50. Amazing value for the performance I'm getting out of it.
too bad you will need big cooler, and ram will fail regularly up until mobo dies :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
why u said that@@uhohwhy
@@uhohwhy yea what makes you say that
is this good for multi instance emulator?
Best for the price. There is just nothing better.
Its now 30 to 35 dollars on ebay i just ordered two to replace my 2678v3 xeons. I have my bios hacked for turbo. I hope my 72 threads carries itself soon!
hey! do you game on it? this is the first time i ever hear of this cpu and i’m worried it isn’t good even with these videos on it it just feels veeeeery sketchy for some reason.. i will pair it with RTX 2060 super if that matters
@@John-wt2xq They are quite popular as an upgrade from system of their time or beginner system. If you have something on lga1200/1700 or AM4/5, then its not for you, unless you want to build a server, in which case lots of xeon PCIE lines are must-have (and you can use 2 of them too on same board).
got 2 of those 2699v3's in my unraid server with 128gb ecc ddr4 2133mhz and they are quite good for that, wouldnt use it for gaming tho
if you can nab a 1650 or 1660 v3 and overclock them they can be quite good at gaming
@@serverscience yea server is rly good for the price, also have 2 1080ti's in it, great allrounder for almost no monies :)
@@mercedes300gdso power hungry
@@jj-icejoe6642heeehe my main pc is 13900k, 4090 and 64gb ddr5 6000mhz and i can tell you that one use much more power
@@jj-icejoe6642 Just 140W per CPU. If that is too much, i dont recommend looking at modern ones, single 13900 will eat more and deliver less then 2 xeons.
What about the v4 xeons?
They have higher clocks...but you cant run them at max frequency all-cores. v3 is better, because you can unlock max boost for all cores, not just 2 as by default.
I have 2699v4 with 256gb ram- it is amaizing. Aldo the motherboard supports xmp for some rason i had to manually set to 2400mhz the ram speed when i was going over 6x32gb (it has 8 ddr4 slotts)- under this xmp just worked fine.
Btw i know - and yes i put double the amount of ram then what my mobo supports.. but it was worth it and i really needed that.
I am using the Xeon 2697 v4 ...they are working great and for a good price as well I paired it with Gigabyte x99 motherboard
That was something I was actually considering. Not sure I'd really have a use for it though.
got a pair of e5-2690v4 in a hp z640, and decent for an old xeon, bummer that there not a lot of games that can use both processors.
They dont even use one 12 core properly.
Go and get you a E5-1680 v2 (unlocked 8-Core Xeon) and oc it to 4.4 GHz and you get a CPU Score of 9.500 in Time Spy😉
@@serverscienceyeah, it is. With good cooling you can run these beasts with 1.4 Vcore up to 4.6 GHz and for the memory up to 2400 with a BCLK up to 130 MHz (try VCCSA up to 1.36)
The 2696v3 is better, it is the same processor as the 2699v3, only the 2696v3 is compatible with ddr3 and ddr4, it has more frequency, and much cheaper on Aliexpress, it costs €50
my 2670v3 is is fine. Better than the 2500k that was before. but not very good single core
I wonder about the temps, since you mention that doesn't boost much so it can keep thermal temp, so probably don't need to change the cooler for a aio or a better air cooler.
@@serverscience wow that's impressive other xeon heat a lot
Anyone tried playing Minecraft with a high cores CPU ?
Get a platinum version and you'll have performance
£40 in uk at moment
that board supports v4 cpus
The problem with these is getting a good cheap motherboard
Right, I had luck with my Jingsha X99 D8-D3 which is of questionable quality overall, but it is still fine for my unlocked 2696 V3. A Huanzhi X99-TF went up in smoke though, a faulty USB stick caused a short circuit. In the end, it is a great platform for tinkerer's and adventurer's that want multi-core performance for cheap.
i run an i3 & hyperthreading & on board graphics is the reason i bought it, anyway if your on UA-cam you have to he prepared for the argumentative numpties,
18 core 5000 wat psu
140W max, almost never reached. Suck it, 14900K fanboys.
My ryzen 9 5900x has 64 megs of l3😊
but does it have 40 pcie lanes and quad channel memory?? nope it doesnt😊
Intel should have continued to develop the X-SERIES processors, they would have beaten everything today. Instead they followed AMD with this chiplet design and efficient cores architecture. Go back to the drawing board INTEL and rework the X-SERIES.
E5-2690 V4 is ~$35 in late 2023; i got it and i like it;
Ya electronics are grossly overpriced..I have this ssue whe searching cameras too..the most average things sre 3 to 500 dollars way past therre prime..mi think people p UT prices on nostalgia..cuz these things aren't rare and electronics sremlike eine they don't age wekl..pekple.alsi see on ebay what its going for more than what it sold for..do its s.mess also electronics are the most gouged things like during the oandemic.....ya old orocessors.arent my.thijg I prpar newer technologies do to efficiency tonpower ratio and also the newest p pipelines etc. But hey in glad someone wants this old tech..netter that a landfill, but come on go throw that shi t away then over price it 600 more than worth. More cores isn't necessarily better we know that now..its better to have a mix of cores and speed
must mention the all-core turbo unlock for the v3 Xeons