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most of these people where 19th century style farmers, they would use horses for plowing, some had never seen a car, some didn't know what a plane was, i imagine seeing all that heavy machinery for the first time, not knowing a war like that could even exist and living through it all must have been hell on earth
@@DickRileyTheConquistador yes , the combination of physical and psychological trauma . This is actually what ptsd is , it’s manifesting in a way according to these men’s social conditioning of the early 20th century . The soldiers of the Iraq war who came home with ptsd generally show different symptoms due to social conditioning of their time . But it’s very much the same horrible injury .
Nowadays we have been exposed to the atrocities of war through mainstream media, news, movies, etc... We have become comfortable with this... And thats why the expose us to war imagery and have us have war toys from babies... So sad to know that we everyday people were never in charge of our lives but we are live stock for the masterclass.
I had a great-uncle who fought in WW1 and came home “shell shocked” as they used to call it. He apparently never married and spent all of his free time alone in his bedroom for the rest of his life until he passed away in the late 1960s. He never wanted to be around anyone. So sad.
My heart has broken with the first video. This healthy, strong adult, frightened like a kid only with the sight of a military cap. How much pain suffered this poor soul to be completely broken like this? Peace for every of them, and others like them.
I think that guy was bullshitting. I've seen all kinds of PTSD but I've never seen somebody freak out because of a cap... Remember that this world is full of con artists and scammers so don't believe everything you see. There were certainly soldiers in World War I that had severe shell shock and even brain damage but this guy looks like a bullshitter.
What these people went through must have been unimaginably horrible. Even though more died during ww2, I would gladly choose the latter than have to experience the horrors of ww1
I did, I refused to serve in the armed forces. Instead I had to do civilian duty for the same amount of time. And could risk being jailed if war should find it's way to Denmark. War solves nothing.
i hate when people say "WE didn't learn anything", or i often hear "WE are killing the planet by polluting" no, there's no "we", it's "they", the few with the actual power to make those decisions. Im tired of this rhetoric as if these things are somehow everyone's fault (mine and yours) when the culprits have names and they are not "we"
the first one really hits hard, when he sees the hat and instantly remembers all of the bad, and doesn't want to go back and re-live the nightmares...poor guys.
Might just be me, but I got a bad feeling about the dudes around him. Casually smoking watching him, and the guy with the hat looks like he’s smiling after turning around. Like they are thinking he is lesser or something and toying with him idk
@@jameshill8493 it was considered cowardice to be like that after a war… that’s why many commanders didn’t fight so if that did happen they wouldn’t lose their ranks…really sad in my opinion😔😔
The unfortunate thing about it is that he isn’t “trying” to not relive his trauma, he is on a visceral and physical level. “Our bodies are the texts that carry the memories and therefore remembering is no less than reincarnation.”-Katie Cannon
My grandfather was a WWII vet, fought in D-Day, Battle of the Bulge, helped concentration camp victims, the whole 9 yards. He woke up screaming and/or kicked and clawed at my grandmother in his sleep most nights from nightmares about the war. They ended up sleeping in separate beds. My dad told me they went to see Kelly's Heroes at the theater when it came out. There's a scene where Kelly orders a solider to clear a minefield and the kid gets blown up, and my grandfather had to get up and leave then because he had ordered a soldier to do exactly the same thing with the same results. I never knew all this until I was an adult. My grandfather was always the most cheerful, fun older person I had ever known as a kid. It's hard to imagine all the pain he was hiding.
My Dad was a mortar gunner in WWII. He talked about the war a lot, and his experiences, but he never mentioned how scary it was. He was shot. Loud sounds would scare him, but he'd quickly regain his composure, and pretend he was ok. He also wouldn't stay in the room if Taps was played on TV. It triggered something in him. His "yearbook" from his unit has a list in the back of thsoe who died. IHe put check marks next to many names. They must have been his buddies then. My older brother was in Vietnam, and became a hypochondriac after he got out. He went to a psychiatrist for years, and it was attributed to his war experiences. My husband is a Persian Gulf War veteran. He's ok, but once, when were were dating, he had an epsidoe and rambled on about hismself dying. We were talking about something else and he suddenly launched into what seemed like a PTSD episode.
@@chromegirl7546 One of the greatest strengths of the mind is our memory especially for danger and it can be our worst enemy because it designed to be on at all times without regard to content. Yes when you see behaviors or verbal content out sudden and off topic that is an episode that was trigger by something going on external or internal. Taps was because he heard it too many times for his friends funerals, not fun times. Our country has created generations of walking wounded vets mostly men due to the wars we have constantly fought since WWI. Its really a lose lose for everyone on either side. My brother was over in the Middle East after 911 and his wife told me when he came back he only slept on the floor and had nightmares every night. My brother himself said very little of it. He volunteered for that secret mission so its classified so no talk about it. I'm a clinician so I know it inside out. Very sad.
@@chromegirl7546 I don't know if you still check this, but I have similar episodes when I am having a good time in a public setting. I call them "happy good times" flashbacks like when we were getting ready to go on deployment and so many didn't come home. I still end up talking to my friends who aren't there. Just know he feels safe around you, it's the only time we let our guard down enough for this to kick in.
According to an old documentary about shell shock, that man was deaf due to his condition, and would not respond to anything apart from one word: bomb. If he heard that word, he would dive under his bed and cower away from a blast that was never coming.
The first is a heart-breaking the man can’t bear seeing a hat that he wore while in combat, he starts shivering and walking away, heartbreaking just heartbreaking.
I saw a documentary as a kid about that scene, it belonged to an officer which were the ones that ordered men into the slaughter. He was so messed up that an officers hat would provoke terror in him
@Aþort Mən it’s sad how people be so disrespectful and don’t understand anything……(cough, cough) I’m talking about you, in case you don’t get it…..😒🤦🏽♀️
As a Wehrmacht soldier once wrote, regardless of whether he was from the Wehrmacht, he was right: "War is the stage where young people who don't know each other and don't hate each other, kill each other for old people who know and hate each other, but don't have the courage to kill themselves."
Most of the old people suffered similar trauma when they were young soldiers. General Dorrien-Smith (WW1) was speared with an Assegai twice in his youth & almost died for obeying the orders of incompetent old General Chelmsford in 1879.
all the evil and all the blood that was shed happened so that we would have full freedom today, but that is not the case for the last two years, man has never been limited as today, in no war or pandemic, the whole world is blocked and under the control of high leaders, all because of covid 19
the clip where the man hid under the bed broke my heart, he still remembers the artillery fire, the gunfire, the screams, deaths, mud gore and everything else
Very sad , these brave young men answered the great call , not realising what was ahead of them. On both sides these men will never be forgotten . Lest we forget
My grandfather fought in WW1, he was a gunner and hated it. He wasn't nearly as bad as these poor souls but he was deeply affected..he was a very strange man. My Grandma mother and her brother were v frightened of him . He was in a mental institution for many years after a flash back where he attacked students after they let a rat go in the classroom.. Apparently in the trenches some of his toes had been eaten by rats . Poor Grandpa.
@@rufsis Highly doubt y’all clowns even knew anybody from ww1 or the civil war lmao it’s been almost 200 years since civil war and a 100 and some change from ww1 y’all be saying anything stupid that comes out y’all’s mouths
A lot of this was actual brain damage, the over pressure blasts from artillery gave everyone severe concussions. Pile on top of that the other horrors these men had to endure and this is the result. These poor men experienced something that’s impossible to even imagine. Edit: Ok obviously this is a far more complicated topic than I let on initially. Please read through the comments to get a more complete view of this phenomenon. Don’t just take my word. There’s also plenty of other sources online. But I still believe brain damage from what they experienced still contributes greatly to their psychological condition.
This comment really helped me understand a bit more. The terrors they experienced can clearly have an effect on them for a lifetime, but I wasn't aware of BOP (Blast overpressure) causing brain damage. Thank you.
As though a trauma so gruesome, so absolutely beyond the ability to comprehend, made those poor men's minds completely glitch out... It's more than their psyche could withstand and breaks my heart...
@@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork i totally agree.As a clinical depression depersonalisation and ptsd sufferer i have experienced really bad behaviours from psychiatrists.I cannot still believe i am in this position while i was totally healthy..but life is unpredictable..
Disgusting eh when will people wake up to corrupt governments. But no, some would rather go to war and come back mentally broken, in pieces, missing lims, paralysed for what pride? Seriously 🤦♂️ no thanks.
Trench warfare in WW1 was absolute hell. These people didnt even know what they were getting into. One day you are a farmer plowing the field, the next you are thrown into a trench, faced with the most murderous and vile machines we ever invented. They knew swords and muskets, but suddenly they had to charge through machinegun fire, dodge artillery shells, avoid tanks, see people die of gas attacks, witness planes dropping steel darts that rip you apart head to toe. They lived in muddy trenches that were full of suffering, diseas and constant risk of death by entirely unknown and horrible ways for months. Painful deaths too. Injuries with no treatment plans. Weapons made to maim and to invoke fear. Its so horrible, youd think it could only be fictional. Its hard to consider anyone made it out of there without severe issues.
And sadly now with the west sending some of the most technologically advanced weaponry, to Ukraine to help them fight the Russians, people are instantaneously obliterated in the blink of an eye. Yet we brainwashed ourselves and say “at least they went quickly.” War is hell no matter the era. But I absolutely agree, the era you speak of WAS SO MUCH MORE BRUTAL.
@@ti2218 Flamethrowers have never been banned from use against military targets, although legislation has been attempted - do not perpetuate this stupid myth. The closest you'll find is protocol III of the convention on certain conventional weapons, but it only restricts the usage of incendiary weapons to avoid *civilian* casualties.
@@BlurbFish actually, it cannot be used on people period. It can only be used to clear foliage. Of course we break the Geneva conventions all the time anyways but it is still banned against people.
My Grandfather, tough as nail type, would cry whenever recalling his time fighting in WW1. One story that stuck with me, after giving everything to the war, when it was over they turned to all the men and said it over - go home. Broken, beaten, starved and penniless, thousands of miles from home they set off on foot. They would tie cable and rope to their feet as shoes. Feet worn to the bone. He would explain they would be walking shoulder to shoulder talking and your friend would just collapse. Their bodies just gave up. Malnourished, infection and exhaustion. They could only leave them on the side of the road to die as they marched on. Its a crime that those that start these wars are never the ones that suffer for it. and so, absent of accountability they make all the same decisions. Next war thats fought, we should all grab a politician and drag them to the front line. If nothing else, it will cull the government of the thinking that starts these problems, and be a cautionary tale to the next crop.
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ ew dude , " just do for others what you do for yourself" ,none of that white evangelical new testament bible bull**** everyone pushes ,plus Titus Bible has everything one would need to combat corruption.
We can blame the war like German people's for this war the 2nd world war an Bible prophecy tells us that the European union lead by Germany will start the 3rd world war as well.mark this comment an when it happens you'll know that there was a prophet (Herbert Armstrong) among us an that GOD sent him the be the modern day Elijah.check out his book America and Great Britain in prophecy.
Maybe if TV would showe more of this als less Rambo, people would finally realise that there is nothing cool or honoring about war. That after all they are left alone with all the consequences of that disaster. Maybe then we will finally judge politicians by what they do and not what they say.
My great-grandfather was a WWI vet. I only met him once when I was very young and it was absolutely terrifying. It must be one of my earliest memories. He was sitting and suddenly belted out the most blood-curdling sound of pure horror. I scrambled to my mom for comfort and she said "it's alright, he's ok" and I remember thinking even then "how can someone make that sound and be alright"? As an adult I asked my father about him and was told that he would regularly stare off into space and scream... but it was particularly scary when it happened while driving! (`･/д＼･)
My grandpa was in ww2. He would scream regularly in the middle of the night. He passed in 2012 but I wished I would have asked him more about his experiences.
@@anh7807 Perhaps it's for the better that you did not. maybe he wouldn't have wanted to relive the memory consciously again. Or maybe he wouldn't have wanted to be acknowledged as week for being the way he was. You shouldn't blame yourself for it.
My grandpa was in Finland while ww2. He died for 3 months ago rest up bro🙏🏽❤️😂 And I remember when he falls asleep then just wakes up by screaming. So them nightmares still there even after 82 years. He was the most savage kid under ww2 tho. He fkn stole food and shit from german camps and tried to steal a tank too😂 and I remember when i asked him if it was fun he said "if you didnt have food and friends with you. No it wasnt. But if u had ye it was hella fun but it comes to you when u walk over a field full of bodies blown up to pieces"
@@frankjosephdaniels3733The stare usually refers to the expressionless, unfocused look that people get when they dissociate, he looks like he's full on reliving events; which is another symptom of PTSD. I think dissociating would have been a mercy for this man.
My mother's grandfather was a WWI Veteran and apparently an awful man. I've never heard anyone speak kindly of him. One of my mother's relatives asked her grandmother how she could stand to be with him. Her reply was, "He wasn't always like this". I believe the war changed him.
That’s actually one reason for why Prohibition came to exist. WW1 broke a lot of men, and when they came back, they drank. The anti-saloon league and other groups, especially the women against alcohol groups in the early periods of protest sited alcohol as a part in how their husband’s became abusive. I think it had a part in their decline into indecency, but I believe WW1 was the root cause for most of these cases.
@@kubli365 hundreds of millions of young boys dead in the war just to protect his families and countries and womans of today are like hmmm im feeling oppressed
@@theodoreroosevelt2154 I just had a sudden realization that much of the failed social reforms and social practices performed at the time were probably done in part to our ignorance of how men felt. My grandmother's father was a "drunk" as she called him, he fell down some stairs in the mid 30s and died, her mother apparently blamed his death on him being a drunk and so did my grandmother. He was a ww1 vet, evidently never drank before the war. And I remember her blaming his drinking on his friends being bad influences, and how hanging around so many guys made him a "barbarian". Only now am I assuming he was likely very broken because of the war and his inability to find emotional refuge, and saw no other way to cope. My grandmother who told me much of this is senile now, I only wish I had this insight while her mind still worked as it once did, I probably would've told her this. She was/is a very "classic" woman in a sense, she held men to very outdated standards, always expecting them to have their hair short, be quiet, don't cry or complain. I know this because that's exactly how she raised me when I was under her supervision for the summer as a kid. I'm not trying to speak ill of her by any means, I love her very much. But she is very much a product of her time.
I’m so sorry for what you had to go through. War is a terrible thing that nobody could even begin to comprehend what it would feel like to be in the middle of it. I only know some first hand stories my grandfather told me. God bless you and I’m happy you’re still here with us
My grandfather fought in Stalingrad as a machine gunner. He tried talking about it once and all he could come out with was "they turned into minced meat" while violently shaking. He lost his leg at 17 during the war but walked so well with his prosthetic that you would've never guessed. He ended up drinking himself to death though. War should never be justified because it not only scars an entire generation of men, but the generation after it.
@@hummingpylon Highly doubt y’all clowns even knew anybody from ww1 or the civil war lmao it’s been almost 200 years since civil war and a 100 and some change from ww1 y’all be saying anything stupid that comes out y’all’s mouths
When Stalinograd fell my father was a HQ driver for british 8th army at el alamein. He was having a great time knocking around Cairo as a young carefree guy. One trip up the line he stopped to chat to some infantrymen. When they asked him where he would be in the evening and he told them having a cold beer in a favourite bar in 'Alex', they looked at him as if in a dream....cold beer, unimaginable to them. After the war Dad always said that he was the luckiest guy alive.
The veterans that's hiding under the bed is so heartbreaking 💔 these soldiers have been through so much and seen a lot of horrific things during the war.
My father was a tunnel rat he was not as bad as some of these heroes we see here , my father would sleep walk a lot and sometimes crawl down the hallway and you could never come up behind him or touch his back when he was not looking My father was stabbed in the lower back and had his thumb shot off and suffered from agent orange exposure his whole life. May these brave men rest in peace.
Agent Organge? First time reading about that, and it certainly sounds like what my culture would consider a war crime. How did you not rebel against that government is not easily understood for an outsider.
@@korosuke1788 Agent Orange was a chemical used to kill foliage & plants so the enemy had no place to hide or less places to hide because of the tunnels they made so a lot of the American soldiers during Vietnam that were handling it got it on their skin which got absorbed into the blood stream & caused all kinds of health issues mainly cancer . I knew I guy back in the 80s who was in Nam from a local neighbor kid I knew & this guy was crazy ! He would shoot at things through his windows at night or day because he was hearing things that weren't there & I remember going in to meet this guy with my neighbor & he would sit & scrape what looked like dried scaly skin off of his arms using a Bowie knife in his chair drunk & high as a kite . I went over again with my neighbor one day & just as we pulled up he started blasting the shot gun out one of the windows but not at us so needless to say I never went back there again with my neighbor in fear of being shot to death by someone that should have been in a funny farm locked up from society. I am sure this Nam vet either died from cancer from the Agent Orange or he ended up committing suicide but not sure because I had moved away some years later & lost touch with my neighbor who I went to school with when growing up . This Nam vets name was Doug McDougal who lived in St Francis Minnesota out in the country I do remember .
My grandfather came back from the Great War, hard on my grandmother and my mother and aunt that he was changed. He faithfully went to church and when we grandkids were little, he smiled, made ice cream, and gave best hugs ever! Have his medals and yet the medals for Sunday school perfect attendance for so many years mean more. Died in his sleep at 80. Whole town came to remember him.
I was 12 in 1950 living in a small town in Oregon. My father owned a print shop and weekly newspaper. I noticed that almost every day a man would walk by my father's shop. He would walk about ten feet, then stop and shake from his head to his legs, get control of himself and then walk another ten or so feet and repeat the shaking. World War II had ended just six years previously and I thought he's been hurt in the war. But my dad told me that he was a soldier in World War I and was "shell shocked". I still remember this poor man. War is a horrible thing!
That's an incredible story. Being able to even say you've seen a WW1 vet in person is amazing to me. The psychological effects on those vets literally makes me cry...... P.S. also in Oregon.. Springfield.
My grandfather fought in ww2 and lost a leg. He’s was such a wholesome, nice person who adored his grandchildren and was very loving, but he had horrible PTSD, and I remember him having episodes of blood curdling screaming. It was during these times, he went red, and it was survival mode after that. Once he calmed down, he was fine. This is so sad
@@Tattlebot So, you would prefer abandoning them to the ruscists, rather than fulfilling (partly) the guarantee of national integrity they were given by the Budapest memorandum, guaranteed by Russia (!!!), the UK and the US of A? The USA have one word... or haven't they?
@@Tattlebot I re-read my comment, and find it not only to be mature enough, but also quite logical... and ethical also, not proning reneging on a promise. Is it my last phrase, written obviously tongue-in-cheek, that you find immature?
My grandfather and his brothers are/were all WWII vets, I remember one of my great uncles telling me a story about being pinned behind a wall by a German machine gunner before finally being shot, after he fell from behind the wall he shot the man in the face. I remember him shaking violently while telling the story before he started to cry, he was in his early 90’s at the time and passed away shortly after, but that story is forever etched in my mind. His remaining brothers were stationed in the pacific and don’t speak of the war in almost any way except of coming home. Absolutely horrific what was done to those young men.
The war in the pacific was so horrifying that no one talks about it. What the Germans did in the west is nothing compared to what the Japanese did in the East.
My grandfather and four brothers were the same. Rarely, if ever, spoke of the things they saw. My grandfather was known to speak a bit to his sons later in life. Watching German soldiers dig a hole to hide in, he said he waited until they were tired to kill them. Being 30 years old and older than most infantry he was commander of a couple of tanks under Patton. He spoke of the orders to press so hard after the German retreat that he ran over many of their own men in the sprint. Horror stories you could not make up. So sad.
My great grand father ( wilfred colegate) fought in both world war 1 and 2 got mustered gassed by Germans was given 6 months to live. He died 20 odd years later! My dad said he never spoke of the wars. Respect to all who was in the wars !
My grandfather went through absolute hell in WW2. He was so loving to his grandkids, but even then, I could see it in his eyes. He'd seen things that scarred him for life.
WIthout context, one would think these men were born with severe mental disabilities... devastating to see what war can do to a person. They pretty much died in the trenches but dragged their remains back home.
The last guy was cured by Dr. Hurst, you can see him struggling to walk at first before they cut to him walking outside and down some steps. But apparently he still had some ticks with his hands
I heard stories from friends who work in a nursing home. They had ww2 vets. One was a pow. He still screamed out in his sleep and they had to be very careful about comforting /re orientating him. He was so deep in his sleep and trauma when he woke up he couldnt see he was safe . Others didnt want to be touched/taken care of at all. Extreme trauma to their senses. It was heartbreaking. To think they were just boys being sent off to fight.
Actually ptsd-related suicide rates among war veterans are high today too, but most countries ignore this issue and don't help the veterans, or take some bare-minimum ineffective measures.
As a veteran, my heart aches for these poor individuals on both sides of the conflict. War is a horrible thing, and should be avoided at all costs. Who knows what contributions, inventions and ideas perished along with the lives and sanity of these men. Anyone that has experienced indirect fire, knows the sickening feeling.
I have a red fleece blanket that I used to “hide” under in Afghanistan. My wife hates the stupid thing, but I have an un natural attachment to it. Like a child. I consider myself lucky that I do not suffer from any extreme symptoms of ptsd.
While in Afghan I was lucky enough not to have been in a situation where I was in a direct firefight. My brother, who served in Fallujah and Ramadi was not so lucky. Still, to this day he doesn't talk to any of us, no matter what we do to reach out.
The symptoms of war neurosis, often called Shell Shock when this was filmed, were well know at the time. What was unusual about this issue at the time was the volume. Never before had so many people be involved in combat for this long. Traumatic events had been happening to people for centuries, but never to so many people in such a short period of time. There weren't much known about successful treatment, so many times there was no solution and these victims had to live the remainder of their lives with these awful symptoms. Many military commanders thought the victims were faking or were just mentally weak, so they often wanted to send these men right back into battle to prevent others from displaying the same reactions. It took many years to better understand the mental reaction to trauma, how to reduce the likely PTSD reaction, and how to treat it with modern medications and therapy.
Although it was correctly interpreted in scientific circles after the First World War, it was not recognized in society until the end of WW2. For example, as in Germany, military pressure through authority could suppress the neuroses. In the US Army they gained negative notoriety and came into conflict with the views of General Patton during the North Africa campaign.
@@StavroginNikolaiPeople that don't know the stress these men were under, to then call them mentally weak, is amazing. These men essentially were picked up from mostly farms and small towns and dropped into the first mass casualty wartime environment in the 20th century. WW I was the training ground for using new technology to kill people faster than ever thought possible. Many of these young men just couldn't adjust to the death and destruction they saw on an unimaginable scale.
@@TroyBlake Yeah that's what the word 'weak' means. They were put in an immensely stressful situation and they crumbled mentally. It's not a put-down, it's just a fact.
My grandmother’s father and his brother fought on the western front in WW1. They were both lieutenants; cavalry men. They were in the 20th Hassars in the battle of Cambrai where my great grandfather sustained an injury and his brother lost his life. The military report: “On November 27th, 1917 at the Battle of Cambrai in Bourlon Wood, Cecil and Philip Woold were hit by a German shell, seriously wounding both. The regiment had been under attack all day without receiving instruction. On their left side they fought uncovered while on their right they fought alongside the Irish Guard. The ceaseless attack of shells led their major to leave the safety of the trenches and walk in the battlefield in hopes of inspiring the men to keep fighting. When the major was hit by a shell, Cecil and Philip left the trenches to bring him back to safety, but a shell exploded between them, injuring them both. Philip was sent to recover at Fishmonger Hall, which was set up as a temporary hospital. Cecil died two days after the attack, at the age of thirty, due to the injuries he received.” Lest we forget.
What makes it even worse is that these people weren't treated properly but either seen as weak or had to undergo treatments which are actually torture, like electric shocks. They went through hell and afterwards they were tortured as a reward.
My uncle fought in the French legions in Vietnam and when he came back he was unrecognizable, after a few years he died of alcohol addiction. Blessings for all those poor soldiers.
A great uncle of mine enlisted in 1946 when he was 17 years old in the FFL, some years later he was sent in Indochina. Got parachuted in a mission, conquered a Town with his platoon (or a Village, i cant remember right now) and some days later Vietminh's surrounded the whole place and attacked. No survivors, only fews managed to escape. My grandmother had his letters hidden somewhere. There is also a book about him
I am so sorry. War is a terrible trauma - nobody deserved this. Without alcohol, or other drugs, it´s almost impossible to survive after war traumatization, with PTSD they frequently have nightmares and even during daytime they get terrible flashbacks
The importance of keeping historical documents up to current technological standards cannot be overstated: it is crucial in preserving not only the historical but also cultural value of the images, preventing them from becoming cold historical artifacts that are perceived as disconnected from the present time - thanks for this great work.
@@WakaWaka2468 Not to make a comment but to thank the creator for their time and effort It is important to give and not always just take Be it you tube creators or charity etc
THIS is why we must teach history, the real history in school today. They HAVE to know what we have done. The horrors our grandparents experienced, our parents had to endure during the depression WWII and the other wars. They have ZERO CLUE what the hell is going on & how we got here. It's disgusting!!
I want to thank everybody for sharing these sad moments. They make people who fought these wars live a little longer. They're parts of history that wasn't written.... yet? Respect to all the people that went through these wars.
My great grandfather was a german veteran of the battle for Verdun. He took a lungshot there and was saved by a villager when he was crawling away from the broken trenches. Years later, he was sent to Paris in WW2 where he spent his time learning cooking from the french people - he was just tired of fighting and the war. When asked about the wars, he would never speak about WW1 but would tell how nice the French were in Paris in WW2. It was clear that WW1 left a horrifying imprint on him.
I've met people who got injured and it took the fight out of them completely. It may be he was like this, I don't know. They usually are the most peaceful understanding people in the whole world, really seems to be a good thing from what I've seen.
@@danbrownellfuzzy3010 Yeah, he also completely lost his interest in fighting or agression after WW1. In WW2 when he was in Paris, he told that he tried to be friends with the French because he saw no sense in treating them bad. Seems like his experiences in WW1 made him very pacifistic. It worked out because everybody praised his cooking skills after he returned, so obviously he made some friends there. =)
@@sailcvl3976 It made a huge imprint on him. When I asked about stuff like medals etc. my family explained that he threw everything right away because it reminded him too much of the horrors.
I'm so grateful for the privilege of living in peace, at this moment in human history. I could have had it ten times worse; I could have been one of these men.
I had a relative who fought in this war. My grandma would tell me stories of him. He was a US Marine gassed by mustard gas toward the end of the war. He had some serious issues when he came back home: he was always sick, vomiting profusely, I guess his sense of smell was never the same so some scents made him vomit when for a normal person they’d just be slightly repulsive. Poor guy died when he was only 40, he weighed about 120 pounds because he barely ate anything… never married because he thought no one wanted to take care of the stuff he had to deal with 😢
@@kimhornhem5399 walking alone is rejecting government and living in the wilderness. You can't fight for anything that isn't yourself because in the end it is only your life that matters. War is a billionaires chess board and better to be off the sidelines and even the monopoly table when it comes time for war.
The soldier at 0:50 is truly heart breaking. The way he keeps looking around scared, and confused I wish I could jump in a time machine to help him. Just talk to him, and pray for him try to explain to him he's okay. Goodness this is sad, may all these people rest easy much love!
My Great Uncle survived this war,his youngest brother died at Passendale, his other brother died at The Somme. In 1938 his mother died,2 weeks after the funeral he took a cut throat razor and cut his neck open. He was as much a causality as his brothers. RIP,brave boys,may you find a peaceful place to sleep.
As a vet seeing these guys suffering from something that we are only getting a handle on today a 102 years later PTSD is heartbreaking. Imagine being hold up in a hole forty feet under ground while thousands of shells land exploding above your head, for weeks even months. Then having to go above ground to that hellscape and face thousands of men charging towards you doing everything in their power to kill you. I don't care how hard you think you are everyone breaks it just depends how hard the break is, Semper Fi and God be with them and those like them.
@@Dave-kj4vr Yea it's definitely not purely PTSD or we would still see similar cases today. Even though soldiers aren't subjected to such a thing for such sustained periods of time it seems pretty clear that this isn't a simple psych break.
My mom used to tell me about my great uncle that was a ceebee and how after he got home they would hear him wake up screaming and ripping at the walls from flash backs being stuck in a sub where he watched his mates parish. I never met him but im proud of him for being in the service and dealing with a government that didnt care about him after.
My great aunt told me a story in the early 80s about a shell shocked elderly veteran of the civil war. He kept a pillow and a couple of blankets made perfectly under his bed as well as a pillow and a couple of blankets on top of his bed. When she was a kid she asked why and she was told that because of the war sometimes he felt better sleeping under his bed. She also told me that there were no places for these guys to get treatment, so they would either go to a mental hospital, which was a snake pit with no care, or they would live alone. My aunt Theresa live to be 103. She died in 1984.
Wow.. that's so sad to hear 😞 It's amazing to know someone who lived through WW1 and also knew someone in the civil war. Huge moments in history that seems so long ago but really wasn't.
"The Body Keeps the Score" is such a great book on this. Its up to us to break this generational trauma. Our ancestors experienced it, they raised our grandparents and parents with it. We owe it to them to break the cycle
Cringe. Ptsd is what keeps us alive bro. It shows us whats dangerous and whats not. Its just very bad in this big condition and so on. You can expect that explosions are too godly for us to handle as humans but the ptsd of a bear is actually okay
@@Kaintoeterptsd is never okay. it’s a life destroying condition that leaves you damaged for the rest of your life. speaking from my own traumatic experience, don’t normalise it like this. saying ‘it’s normal bro it keeps us alive’ is so ignorant, please think about the experiences of others before saying something like this. i have blacked out, injured myself, stopped myself from making friends because i am still recovering from my trauma. it hurt me and it is still hurting me. i want you to go up to a person lying on the floor violently trembling and sobbing because they keep remembering a terrifying event and say ‘don’t worry, ptsd is helping you’.
My Grandfather saw action in France, Belgium during WW1. Lost an eye due to a front line injury. Came home with a "$7.45 per month for life" disability. He was a great gentle man. I loved him.
Frisby Griffin Anderson, 1894 - 1978. WWI veteran, my grandfather’s brother. FGA was pushed out of his family in 1926 and committed to the VA hospital in Montrose, Long Island until his death. He was ok, no one wanted him. His sister collected his social security and exploited his situation for gain. And his treatment created a stigma that my mother used against anyone she wanted to harm- the innocent are punished and the wicked live off their suffering, in my family. Thank you for this film. I can’t imagine what symptoms my great uncle endured- and how family can be so hard hearted.
Montrose is in Westchester County, NY, probably an hour or more away from LI. This is the VA I used to go to. It's strange how your aunt was able to get his social security, since the VA takes it use towards the veteran's care. She probably was a payee and was able to manipulate the system somehow. Families take more advantage of vets than one can imagine.
@@Jersey.D3vil201 thanks for writing. Frisby Griffin Anderson was born in 1894, in 1926 he committed himself I’ve learned, his family pushed him out; it was his only hope. Social security came along in 1934?, so Babe, his sister, was already ahead of it. She did way more evil than stealing his money. There were four brothers she used for money and childcare, never allowing them to marry. My grandfather fought back, and had to leave New York to survive. She called employers and told lies no one could live down. Scottish families? Think Macbeth.
This is why I clean up veteran's headstones. My brother, who formerly served in the Army, and I have addressed countless markers in local cemeteries. It is heartbreaking at times to see things in such dismay as if nobody gives a 🤬. Sometimes we don't even know the names of the people until we scrub the layers of grime off. Anyway, God Bless these people.
It’s always a sad sight to see graves covered in mud and dirt like they were forgotten. Thank you for keeping their memory alive just by keeping their grave tidy. It’s a small task but its so significant
I remember as a child watching my Uncle fall to the ground after we heard a car backfire I laughed so hard thinking it was a joke I was only young but I still carry that guilt the horrors he must have seen
@@backstabbath1986 fr though I remember as a kid my cousin's buddy jumped a fence and his shoulder completely dislocated so he was hanging on from that arm and it was twitching I just started laughing but now I look back and realize he was in pain shit my shoulder hurts now sometimes maybe it's karma
My great grandfather was a pilot in ww2, he ended up living with my grandparents I remember being 7 years old waking up at like 6am to him crying because a movie was on and the sounds of the spitfire reminded him of all his friends he lost :(
Imagine that any of them is someone you know from your town, before the war, he was a normal person that you saw at meetings, parties or whatever. He was the person you noticed because he was smart and made you laugh. And with that image of his personality, you saw him go to war of his own free will. When the war ended you received the news that he had survived and you were happy, when you went to visit him to see him, you found this...
This is so heartbreaking, especially the first video where this traumatized man is taunted and filmed like a lab rat. I think we need to go back in time and have the leaders who want to go to war duke it out among themselves in an open field and leave the rest of the world alone.
100% If any politician truly represents their people, they'd put it in their Constitution that whomever funds or declares war ought to be willing to a fight to the death cage match... if they're not willing to die, then why should they be allowed to send us to death or worse?
You don't need to go back in time, time repeats itself... And if you look in history, we tend to do same mistakes over and over again. Only this time, a world war, will simply destroy humanity. And i think this is how we'll end. Look what happends in ukraine. The urkaine sold his heart and soul to americans, played all this victim role, influence by americans, simply to make russians respont. And they do all this propaganda that putin is bad and evil, so they can assasinate him like they did with so many leaders and the world won't say a thing, because he was the "bad" guy. We can stop this if you care enough to simply LOOK AT THE TRUTH. But most people are either too cowards to accept reality or brained washed, controled, the society made them follow their ego like zombies. This is all that matters to them, Not what is wrong, not what is right. There is only one thing who makes us trully free and at peace. The truth. THis is the only thing in this life for wich you need to fight.
Okay playing devil's advocate here: it's possible this was used to demonstrate symptoms of ptsd, that this was for documentary purposes. It's a shitty way to go about it, but they're probably thinking about the bigger picture. It's still the wrong way to go about it, but hindsight is 20/20
My great grandfather's brother suffered from shell shock. He would jump to the ground when car's exhausts popped and often would get under the bed. He later had to be interned into a mental hospital, since his family couldn't take care of him. We have pictures of him and you can really tell that the war affected him tremendously.
@Jack Burton These men were drafted. Draft dodging is a federal crime. These men helped fight off countries that were committing systematic atrocities. Your comment is ignorant & fucking dumb.
That’s so sad. Sounds a little like my great uncle. He was stranded at sea for 7 days after his ship sunk in the Pacific Theater. Only he and one other seaman survived. He was diagnosed with “shell shock” afterwards and was in and out of institutions for the rest of his life. As a little girl I was never allowed to get too close to him as he was given to unprovoked sudden acts of violence. I was terrified of him. I recently came across a photo of him as a new recruit in his navy uniform. He looked so young and innocent and eager to serve his country. It was heartbreaking to see how war took this man and destroyed his mind.
Hello everyone, I am a Turk. My grandfather fought on the Yemen front in the First World War and was captured. While he was in a prison camp in Egypt, a British soldier he had known before recognised him. Probably that British soldier met my grandfather while looking for historical artefacts in Anatolia because Antalya, where we live, is a place full of Roman historical artefacts. Anyway, he made him escape at night, my grandfather returned home and when he returned home, my grandmother did not recognise him. Because he stayed in the desert for a long time, his skin darkened and became unrecognisable. My grandfather slept very little, he was always awake and alert. When I saw these men, I thought of my grandfather.
I can understand, to a very very little degree, what it feels like to someone who’s never had a traumatic event happen to them. I was involved in a pretty bad car accident that I walked away from somewhat uninjured from, besides a gash in my forehead that needed staples (very minor compared to what _could’ve_ happened). One lady driving another car was knocked out, and when she woke up she was screaming hysterically. I didn’t think I was bothered until one day, I was driving, and I felt that *jolt* from the initial crash, and I couldn’t shake it, no matter how hard I could try to. Over and over again, just that feeling of going fast to a dead stop mixed with crumpling just kept repeating to the point where I thought I was going to get hit at any moment. I had to eventually stop on the side of the road so I wouldn’t freak out. When I went to sleep that night I could hear that screaming, almost like how they portrayed it in the movies, a distant echoed scream that I couldn’t tell if I was hearing in my head or in actual real life outside. These men were shaken to the core on a battlefield, watching their closest newly formed band of brothers get maimed or killed right in front of their eyes, still having to take action to avoid getting killed themselves, which they probably thought was going to happen at literally *_any second_* , much like they had just witnessed happening to their fellow men. I can’t imagine the paranoia and shear terror in that moment. And much like my personal example, no matter how distant they are from it, it *haunts* them. They’re reliving that moment not only in their memories, but their bodies still remember it physically. It’s not something you can shake off, it’s your body involuntarily going into a fight or flight response off of just the thought alone. Man, I just want to give each one of these guys a hug through the screen, but it would terrify them.. I hope that at least their souls are at peace now.
@@rattus3102 exactly, it’s so sad. To imagine being that miserable and to only be able to be observed for medical science is so disheartening. These men were the groundwork for PTSD treatment today, and for that, we should be forever grateful.
I can also somewhat understand. I used to be in an abusive house where things would be thrown n destroyed, n i sometimes got beaten. I liked to think i moved on from this as i wasn't physically abused very often but i definitely have repressed these memories n ontop of that i still get startled so bad when something accidentally falls n when people get angry at me i instinctively recoil n my body physically goes back to that time i get hit after someone's yelling at me
My dad told me his grandfather would freak out when there were flashes of light, like when stoking a fire. My other GGF became an alcoholic and abandonned his family after WW1. These stories were only talked about fairly recently which suggests the impact of this trauma was very long lived.
Thats because even after the war. Most soldiers will come home in shattered state. Some will hace phyaical wound, others in psychological trauma after They seen many of their comrades, friends, even family membera dead in grueaomely in the war. No man can be same after experiencing 4 years of living hell in the trenches of WW1.
There was an old man who lived near me. You'd see him walk around and suddenly stop. He'd stand still then jump and look around panicked. Local kids would laugh at him my Granddad would tell them off but they didn't care and would just swear and throw things. My Granddad told me the man suffered from shell shock and that his wife was his carer. Sadly his wife died and afterwards he seemed to vanish.
I am 70 now. I did 10 years in the RAF in 1970 at 17 until 28 in 1980. In those youthful days & my earlier childhood. I saw many people with ailments like these chaps. Many with terrible disfigurations to their bodies and faces. People with limbs missing faces half missing. I felt great compassion for them because the hardest part of their lives was dealing with doing everyday things like shopping while people would just stare and gawp at them without any comprehension that they were making the unfortunate's feel even more alien in a society they had fought for. Sadly, 98% of them, were not WW2 Wounded but WW1. People these days dont appreciate the horrors of war that were so widespread because they can no longer see the evidence. Those I saw in my youth, have long since passed. Thank you for this Video, lest we forget.
I could weep for these poor, destroyed & broken young men. A whole generation ravaged by an evil war! My own great grandfather fought in WW1 and my grandad said that he came back a shell of a man and that he himself had to be a man at 10 yrs old because his own father was shattered by what he’d suffered 💔
Growing-up in Paris in late 60's, early 70's, I still remember seeing disfigured veterans from ww1, I remember one man that had his skull caved in on the side of his head, like half his brain was missing (he seemed mentally normal, surprisingly), a lot of blind men too, from mustard gas, very scary for a kid. "War is hell" is a cliché, but those men saw their friends get killed in front of them getting eaten by rats and rot there because it was impossible to recover the bodies unless you decided to commit suicide, it happened. Seeing those shell-shocked men is heartbreaking, that guy, under the bed still hear the bombs falling.
This makes my heart hurt. Having experienced what they experienced , fighting in a war they did not start, just for their lives to be altered so horrifically .
My grandfather was in wwII. My father asked him about the war only once when he was a young man. He had avoided doing so as my grandfather never brought up the war himself. My grandfather was only able to tell him a bit. What he chose to talk to him about was how he had to find and carry cadavers of soldiers and sometimes civilians, and load them onto the back of trucks. He was in Poland when this happened. He visibily got upset and asked that the topic be changed. My grandfather was a quiet man but loved the company of his family. He wouldnt avoid the world thankfully, and was able to socialize, but he never could talk of the war again. God bless the soldiers and their families. War is an atrocity.
Maybe he told the most gruesome story he could think of and the rest wasn't worth mentioning as far as he was concerned because he thought it might be too blasé?
@@aFoxyFox. Possibly. I recently found out that he was deployed very close to the end of tbe war. We are unsusre if he experienced any active fighting, but certainly was there for 'cleanup' of the aftermath. Thank you for your comment.
Same with my great uncle. He only talked about it once that my mom could remember. He was so ashamed that they would eat amid dead soldiers. There was no where else to eat because the dead were everywhere but he was appalled at the inhumanity of it.
I'm 41 years old and its weird to think that these men were younger than me when they had their lifes damaged by war. Probably they reached (if so) the 40's with no wife, no children, no home. May God receive then in peace.
I'm 63, have no wife, no place to call my own and worst of all, no children. I suffered PTSD after terrible events in the 1990s. It took everything from me. However, finally after 25 years of mental illness, I'm now in the process of rebuilding my life and helping others to do the same. Although I have no children, I taught music for 17 years and had input to many children's lives. In no way does that fully compensate, but it helps. My PTSD lasted 7 years, and transformed into depression. Finally it is over after narrowly surviving suicide 18 months ago. I had to be resuscitated, and fortunately had the medical and psychological support to pull through. The men in the video often didn't survive. I weep for them having suffered a mere fraction of what they endured. People should never fool themselves into believing that discrimination is not rife against mental health sufferers. It is incredibly difficult being in a world of apparently perfect people whilst knowing what imperfection truly is. On fathers day, I'm in tears most of the day, but look on the tears as cleaning my soul from the 25 years of mental trauma. My strength and my faith has kept me alive. Now it is time that my strength and my faith also helps keep others alive. It's not enough to merely survive. Its time now for true surthrival. All those poor souls that are documented in the video should NEVER be forgotten. May all victims of all wars rest in the most wonderful peace. Cheers Pete
@Zahdorfi It was a war. If you really think God would deny the kingdom of Heaven to warriors, then that wouldn't be a God I'd want to worship. Reaching Heaven isn't about being perfect in your mortal life.
My great grandfather from my moms grandma was serving in the Romanian army in WW1 when he was 16 years old, my guy was a warm, gentle guy. The war changed him in a point that when he arived home after the war he did not say anything, just went into the home with a blank look on his face. He recalled that in all of that time when he aimed a rifle at an enemy he shot at the ground and all ways said "God don't make them shoot me, as I will not shoot anybody".
@@steverossini Oh nice, well i also forgot something about mine, there is like a monument in Alba Iulia, some sort of pillar or wall where the names of the people who participated in the Great Union convention of 1918 were going to have their names engraved there forever, i went there and i was still able to see the name of my chap.
@@blueclover9918 Well thank you very much! a Sad thing about this situation is that I have little pieces of information that survived all of this time to even show that he was real, I know that from my mother and other relatives is that my guy had a lot of medals (even ones from WW2, as he was 40 years old when he went into the conflict) , but sadly most of them were neglected and the ones that survived are either with him in the grave or stolen by some stepmother that was mean to my mother, that she fleed to Austria never to be heard of again. The only thing that I have from him before he died in 2005 was a plate that was given to the participants of the 1918 Great Union event, that showed that city back how it was in 1918. It's in decent condition, but only a piece of it fell off and the string has to be replaced.
@@_vla I think some of what these wars teache us that we need to learn more about our families who came before us. We kind of skirt around the subjects because some of them are so painful - but if there is a way to learn about them without causing pain to those who live through them - I think it is well worth it.
Слёзы на глазах наворачиваются , сколько сломанных душ, за что нам такое горе , почему мы не можем договориться , у людей взгляд более искренний и невинный, чем взгляды людей в мирное время , порой на улице, в общественном транспорте у людей глаза куда страшнее..
Мой прадед был немецким военнопленным в русском ГУЛАГе в Сибири. Однажды они бросили моего прадеда в ледяной пустыне, чтобы дать ему умереть. Российские водители транспорта обнаружили его и отвезли в большой город, откуда он каким-то образом смог бежать обратно на родину.
Я отвечу вам цитатой из Хемингуэя: "...автор этой книги пришел к сознательному убеждению, что те, кто сражается на войне, самые замечательные люди, и чем ближе к передовой, тем более замечательных людей там встречаешь; зато те, кто затевает, разжигает и ведет войну, - свиньи, думающие только об экономической конкуренции и о том, что на этом можно нажиться. Я считаю, что все, кто наживается на войне и кто способствует ее разжиганию, должны быть расстреляны в первый же день военных действий доверенными представителями честных граждан своей страны, которых они посылают сражаться." Предисловие к роману "Прощай, оружие!" 1948 года издания
As a fellow soldier, my heart breaks for the young men on all sides of these conflicts who suffered for their bureaucrats and aristocrats in charge. It makes me sickened.
That's why by the time it was called "the great war" and latter on "the war to end all wars" The introduction of airplanes,machineguns and trench warfare changed everything forever.
Watching this sends a shiver down my spine, and gets to me in a weird emotional way, because we have all seen depictions of the great war in movies, but we wil never know what it's really like unless you have experienced it at first hand.
@@SoyAntonioGamingnot really. I believe some countries make you go to army boot camp. Not join but just in case it goes down. It’s best to prepare for the real thing physically than trying to get diamond uzi skin in cod.
I remember learning of somebody collecting accounts from soldiers (I wish I remembered thr context; the message stuck with me more than details like which war and all that. Seems to have been WWII or possibly WWI). He reported that in their final moments, many men resorted to asking, calling, crying for their mother. That on death's doorstep, no matter their heroics or purpose, many became frightened children again before they died. Just wanting their mother. That stuck with me.
My maternal grandfather fought in the Marines in WWII. My paternal grandfather fought in the Marines in Korea. My Uncles served in the Army in Vietnam (one of them was a Ranger). Most of my older maternal cousins fought in Desert Storm and (mainly) OIF in the USMC. My brother and I fought in the Army in OEF. It’s weird having the shared trauma and experience of actually going to war and fighting, then coming home and trying to make sense of everything after across several generations. I’m sure, for most of my family, and absolutely positive for myself, that we all would serve our tours a thousand times over before we served a single day in the meat-grinder that was WWI. I’m just glad all of my family and myself came back from the wars we fought. The worst experience out of all of us are my Vietnam Veteran uncles. They came home to no support from a war they never agreed with, let alone wanted to fight. Then they were derided for being forced to go fight a useless war against their will, and managing to come home. Just a “you did your time. Good luck son, here’s a morphine prescription, and a bunch of angry hippies, draft dodgers, college students, and ‘conscientious objectors’ that will treat you like scum, and a country that forgot fighting a war absolutely can destroy your hope in humanity, and will destroy you physically and mentally”. My brother and I had a somewhat similar experience, but at least we had some kind of support when we came home from the Army. I’ll be forever grateful that I have a family that understands firsthand how hard it is to support someone you love when they come home broken from being away from home, fighting some other asshole’s war, and how to help us try to move on and build a good life afterwards. A lot of my brothers didn't have that, and they chose to not deal with it for the rest of their lives. I don’t blame them, but I miss them dearly. War sucks. I don’t care what side you’re fighting on. It’s not right, and nobody should ever have to experience the worst of what people can do to each other when other, more “powerful” people can’t settle their differences like civilized human beings. Hooah.
Shell shock was generally seen as a sign of emotional weakness or cowardice. Many soldiers suffering from the condition were charged with desertion, cowardice, or insubordination. The unlucky ones were subjected to a mock trial, charged, and convicted. Some shell shocked soldiers were shot dead by their own side after being charged with cowardice. They were not given posthumous pardons.
That was the biggest war after the birth of psychology. We might judge them in retrospect but you got to also have sympathy for the general public. Most those people couldn't even convince themselves or their family that they are shell-shocked. Nor that it was a normal reaction to the horrors they lived through. Plus no one knew what to do with them. Seeing this, I feel very sad for them and so grateful I wasn't born a man during that time.
@@Solastar read some of the other comments. Many of the doctors and such believed these men were cowards for this behavior. Common thinking in those days was that shell shock was a cowards way to avoid putting themselves in any more danger and many thought these men were "faking it" to escape the fighting. After all the firsthand accounts of life at the front and what "going over the top" entailed, I wouldn't blame someone if they DID "fake it"!!
My grandfather's older brother was a medic during world war 2. Despite all the trauma patching up wounded g.i's in battle, my grandfather, who served in the Pacific, said his brother was surprisingly o.k until his medical unit arrived at the nazi slave labor camp of buchenwald. My grand uncle, my grandfather's older brother, had a nervous breakdown in late 1945 before he came home. Once discharged and released from the hospital, he committed suicide. My grandfather went on to lead a normal life but the loss of his older brother affected him deeply.
my grandfather didn't talk much about the war at all but I do remember trying on his uniform and asking him what it was like and Buchenwald was one that I remember he said was a horror.
@@javicoca the war was different in the Pacific and in europe. Yes, the japanese committed atrocities, but it was put into industrial efficiency by the nazis.
It was extreme traumatic experience that disrupted their minds . Hurst actually cured shell shock in one session by normalizing them back into an environment before the war. He had a 90% success rate.
WW1 Veterans had it the hardest. As an Iraq War Veteran I have so much respect and sympathy for what they endured. May they all rest in peace and thank you for your service.
I was in Iraq in 04 for OIF III. These men and women from WWI/WWII always have amazed me and have my utmost respect! I sometimes wish I had been born then in that time!
How many inosent children, men and women are suffering in the same exact way, or even worse, because of your military operation in Iraq? You should be ashamed of yourself, not proud.
Nice post Steve but do remember many weren't in service, around half of the total form the UK and USA were conscripts and were there against their wishes although obviously they largely fought and died like the rest.
@@muhammadwahidy4684 They had the misfortune of being born in the wrong generation. They had noble ideas of ww1 and ww2 in their heads when they joined and were horribly used by their own governments. I am 38 and almost joined the army when i was 16 in 1999. For a long time i had regrets, but when i saw all of the death and destruction caused in iraq and afghanistan, i was glad i never joined!!
During war you have to always be alert, keep your ears and eyes wide open because if you relax you could die This person is still in that state of fight and alert despite having returned home, his mind is still there
Most people don't realize how utterly brutal this war was with trench warfare, chopping and bludgeoning each other with sharpened shovels and clubs full of nails and bayonet charges against machine guns. They lived in cold rain and mud for months with trench foot and disease.
The worst part about WW1 was the artillery. Being thrown up and down and having your eardrums pierced by a week long artillery barrage would have drove you insane.
Recently, in Croatia, we had an earthquake of magnitude 5,5 that shook us well for some 20 seconds. The city was badly damaged, in billions dollars. I gotta tell you, for the next couple of months people would talk about strange nerve sensation in their knees, as they are still feeling the ground shaking. It is scary to even imagine what the eyes of this poor soldiers have seen, ears have heard and body has felt amongst of rain of shells and bombs. God rest their souls!
A few days ago we had a 5,9 earthquake happen here in Chile, though nothing really happens here due to buildings being built to withstand earthquakes it still brings chills to that one 8,8 earthquake we had some years ago, and I feel like it's still happening ever after some minutes...
@@CannibaLouiST Yeah they definitely can, some countries aren't really prepared for earthquakes so when they get hit pieces can break off buildings and hit people passing by, collapse or be uninhabitable after
Война действительно ужасная вещь, наверное не один катаклизм не превзойдет её по жестокости, ведь тут, люди убивают друг друга, за идеи которым их учили. Пусть души умерших в войне покоятся с миром, надеюсь люди не начнут новых войн. Если начнут, значит прошлые жертвы были напрасны...
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0:06 the man he remember past war is hell after end but now is ww1 soon
imagine those liberated after the Civil War…
can only imagine how they were shell shocked
cheers
#usa #2Spirit
And meanwhile the people who started the war were sitting in their expensive houses enjoying their life.
Not exactly. Ppl who funded it did tho
Gavrilo Princip died in prison aged 23. Habsburgs fell and so did Germany.
@@NicotineRosberg I mean if they win the soldiers got nothing in return, but iff they lost , they lost everything
They are ruling the world now via their companies...
ahmmm. most of them lose power especially the romanov family who died brutally by the hands of the stinking bullshitviks
most of these people where 19th century style farmers, they would use horses for plowing, some had never seen a car, some didn't know what a plane was, i imagine seeing all that heavy machinery for the first time, not knowing a war like that could even exist and living through it all must have been hell on earth
Most likely results of trench warfare, explosions all around. I think thats why the call it SHELL SHOCK.
@@DickRileyTheConquistador yes , the combination of physical and psychological trauma . This is actually what ptsd is , it’s manifesting in a way according to these men’s social conditioning of the early 20th century .
The soldiers of the Iraq war who came home with ptsd generally show different symptoms due to social conditioning of their time . But it’s very much the same horrible injury .
Nowadays we have been exposed to the atrocities of war through mainstream media, news, movies, etc... We have become comfortable with this... And thats why the expose us to war imagery and have us have war toys from babies... So sad to know that we everyday people were never in charge of our lives but we are live stock for the masterclass.
@@24k-n6x what are you saying?
@@troy4298 read again. use a a dictionary if necassary.
I had a great-uncle who fought in WW1 and came home “shell shocked” as they used to call it. He apparently never married and spent all of his free time alone in his bedroom for the rest of his life until he passed away in the late 1960s. He never wanted to be around anyone. So sad.
That is very sad 😞
Terrible, so in reality his body was alive but his mind and spirit was still in France laying somewhere in a French field.
Thank you Sir for sharing this. Heartbreaking.
I hope he's doing ok in the afterlife
So tragic, a waste of human potential for a senseless stupid war
My heart has broken with the first video. This healthy, strong adult, frightened like a kid only with the sight of a military cap. How much pain suffered this poor soul to be completely broken like this? Peace for every of them, and others like them.
I think that guy was bullshitting. I've seen all kinds of PTSD but I've never seen somebody freak out because of a cap... Remember that this world is full of con artists and scammers so don't believe everything you see. There were certainly soldiers in World War I that had severe shell shock and even brain damage but this guy looks like a bullshitter.
😢 die haben Dinge gesehen die nie jemand sehen sollte.
This is our nature....
There are no bad soldiers, only bad leaders.
What these people went through must have been unimaginably horrible. Even though more died during ww2, I would gladly choose the latter than have to experience the horrors of ww1
This is heartbreaking. A whole generation of young men/boys lost to a depraved war. And did we learn anything from it? No we didn't
I did, I refused to serve in the armed forces. Instead I had to do civilian duty for the same amount of time.
And could risk being jailed if war should find it's way to Denmark. War solves nothing.
All that war and we still have millions of people supporting wannabie Nazis/Commies.
@Emperor Nero You are so far off the mark. Stalin Alone have killed more people than both World Wars combined.
We learned something alright, we learned how to make more devastating weapons
i hate when people say "WE didn't learn anything", or i often hear "WE are killing the planet by polluting" no, there's no "we", it's "they", the few with the actual power to make those decisions. Im tired of this rhetoric as if these things are somehow everyone's fault (mine and yours) when the culprits have names and they are not "we"
the first one really hits hard, when he sees the hat and instantly remembers all of the bad, and doesn't want to go back and re-live the nightmares...poor guys.
Agreed….I almost shed a tear over it….the look of absolute horror and terror in his face is utterly heartbreaking 🥺
Bro probably survived 1914 - 1917, its horrifying when you survive but the horror remains and you'd wish you died on the frontlines
Might just be me, but I got a bad feeling about the dudes around him. Casually smoking watching him, and the guy with the hat looks like he’s smiling after turning around. Like they are thinking he is lesser or something and toying with him idk
@@jameshill8493 it was considered cowardice to be like that after a war… that’s why many commanders didn’t fight so if that did happen they wouldn’t lose their ranks…really sad in my opinion😔😔
The unfortunate thing about it is that he isn’t “trying” to not relive his trauma, he is on a visceral and physical level. “Our bodies are the texts that carry the memories and therefore remembering is no less than reincarnation.”-Katie Cannon
My grandfather was a WWII vet, fought in D-Day, Battle of the Bulge, helped concentration camp victims, the whole 9 yards. He woke up screaming and/or kicked and clawed at my grandmother in his sleep most nights from nightmares about the war. They ended up sleeping in separate beds. My dad told me they went to see Kelly's Heroes at the theater when it came out. There's a scene where Kelly orders a solider to clear a minefield and the kid gets blown up, and my grandfather had to get up and leave then because he had ordered a soldier to do exactly the same thing with the same results.
I never knew all this until I was an adult. My grandfather was always the most cheerful, fun older person I had ever known as a kid. It's hard to imagine all the pain he was hiding.
Those old former soldiers had stories about being a sniper...or the story about the foot soldier versus the tank....not something you forget.
My Dad was a mortar gunner in WWII. He talked about the war a lot, and his experiences, but he never mentioned how scary it was. He was shot. Loud sounds would scare him, but he'd quickly regain his composure, and pretend he was ok. He also wouldn't stay in the room if Taps was played on TV. It triggered something in him. His "yearbook" from his unit has a list in the back of thsoe who died. IHe put check marks next to many names. They must have been his buddies then. My older brother was in Vietnam, and became a hypochondriac after he got out. He went to a psychiatrist for years, and it was attributed to his war experiences. My husband is a Persian Gulf War veteran. He's ok, but once, when were were dating, he had an epsidoe and rambled on about hismself dying. We were talking about something else and he suddenly launched into what seemed like a PTSD episode.
@@chromegirl7546 One of the greatest strengths of the mind is our memory especially for danger and it can be our worst enemy because it designed to be on at all times without regard to content. Yes when you see behaviors or verbal content out sudden and off topic that is an episode that was trigger by something going on external or internal. Taps was because he heard it too many times for his friends funerals, not fun times. Our country has created generations of walking wounded vets mostly men due to the wars we have constantly fought since WWI. Its really a lose lose for everyone on either side. My brother was over in the Middle East after 911 and his wife told me when he came back he only slept on the floor and had nightmares every night. My brother himself said very little of it. He volunteered for that secret mission so its classified so no talk about it. I'm a clinician so I know it inside out. Very sad.
God made man to live in harmony with his fellow man ☮️
@@chromegirl7546 I don't know if you still check this, but I have similar episodes when I am having a good time in a public setting. I call them "happy good times" flashbacks like when we were getting ready to go on deployment and so many didn't come home. I still end up talking to my friends who aren't there. Just know he feels safe around you, it's the only time we let our guard down enough for this to kick in.
I held tough but broke at dude hiding under his bed. The lack of understanding and treatment at the time breaks my heart
According to an old documentary about shell shock, that man was deaf due to his condition, and would not respond to anything apart from one word: bomb. If he heard that word, he would dive under his bed and cower away from a blast that was never coming.
The first is a heart-breaking the man can’t bear seeing a hat that he wore while in combat, he starts shivering and walking away, heartbreaking just heartbreaking.
I saw a documentary as a kid about that scene, it belonged to an officer which were the ones that ordered men into the slaughter. He was so messed up that an officers hat would provoke terror in him
it might be a trigger
@@hutch1111111 thank you, it still is truly heartbreaking
@@hutch1111111 Do you know remember the name of this documentary, by any chance?
@Aþort Mən it’s sad how people be so disrespectful and don’t understand anything……(cough, cough) I’m talking about you, in case you don’t get it…..😒🤦🏽♀️
As a Wehrmacht soldier once wrote, regardless of whether he was from the Wehrmacht, he was right:
"War is the stage where young people who don't know each other and don't hate each other, kill each other for old people who know and hate each other, but don't have the courage to kill themselves."
Most of the old people suffered similar trauma when they were young soldiers. General Dorrien-Smith (WW1) was speared with an Assegai twice in his youth & almost died for obeying the orders of incompetent old General Chelmsford in 1879.
@@ZzZ-vl1sl --- One would think they'd then know better.
Yes. Well said.
that's not a german soldier lol that paul valery statement
Quem disse isso foi o Piloto da Luftwaffe,Erich Hartmann,e faz todo sentido
What evil things have we humans done to ourselves throughout history? It's a miracle that we are still alive.
all the evil and all the blood that was shed happened so that we would have full freedom today, but that is not the case for the last two years, man has never been limited as today, in no war or pandemic, the whole world is blocked and under the control of high leaders, all because of covid 19
@@gogi2107 Freedom? If only you knew how bad things really are.
Not for too long, we’ll be all dead soon. We, humans, have a big capacity for hate and destruction.
@@gogi2107 ridiculous.
I think our time as "humans" is coming to a close soon.
the clip where the man hid under the bed broke my heart, he still remembers the artillery fire, the gunfire, the screams, deaths, mud gore and everything else
He was a deaf soldier but the moment the guy interviewing him said "bomb" he hid
Very sad , these brave young men answered the great call , not realising what was ahead of them. On both sides these men will never be forgotten . Lest we forget
My grandfather fought in WW1, he was a gunner and hated it. He wasn't nearly as bad as these poor souls but he was deeply affected..he was a very strange man. My Grandma mother and her brother were v frightened of him . He was in a mental institution for many years after a flash back where he attacked students after they let a rat go in the classroom.. Apparently in the trenches some of his toes had been eaten by rats . Poor Grandpa.
cool story bro'et
goddamn
That sucks... 😓
Thanks for sharing. Sorry for your grandfather and the lives that were affected by the war.
@@rufsis
Highly doubt y’all clowns even knew anybody from ww1 or the civil war lmao it’s been almost 200 years since civil war and a 100 and some change from ww1 y’all be saying anything stupid that comes out y’all’s mouths
A lot of this was actual brain damage, the over pressure blasts from artillery gave everyone severe concussions. Pile on top of that the other horrors these men had to endure and this is the result. These poor men experienced something that’s impossible to even imagine.
Edit: Ok obviously this is a far more complicated topic than I let on initially. Please read through the comments to get a more complete view of this phenomenon. Don’t just take my word. There’s also plenty of other sources online. But I still believe brain damage from what they experienced still contributes greatly to their psychological condition.
Can't even begin to imagine what went on in their minds
This comment really helped me understand a bit more. The terrors they experienced can clearly have an effect on them for a lifetime, but I wasn't aware of BOP (Blast overpressure) causing brain damage. Thank you.
As though a trauma so gruesome, so absolutely beyond the ability to comprehend, made those poor men's minds completely glitch out... It's more than their psyche could withstand and breaks my heart...
I can't unsee that... Thanks
Yes that and all the gas bombs they were exposed to as well
Mustard
Nerve
Seeing how these poor shattered men are being treated/handled so harshly by the doctors/staff is absolutely heartbreaking.
They were considered cowards. The military either did not know or did not want to know what was wrong with these men.
Doctors nowadays are no different.
@@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork i totally agree.As a clinical depression depersonalisation and ptsd sufferer i have experienced really bad behaviours from psychiatrists.I cannot still believe i am in this position while i was totally healthy..but life is unpredictable..
Some doctors are basically licensed sadists.
@@ChiaraFrancesco I hope you get well.
Its been over 100 years since WWI. Humans are still fighting. We will never learn. This is our tragedy. 😢
And we will always be fighting....
It’s human nature to fight wars and to have conflict.
@@danielainger It's human nature because we accept it as human nature.
Человек самый умное существо и в то же время самое тупое
Disgusting eh when will people wake up to corrupt governments. But no, some would rather go to war and come back mentally broken, in pieces, missing lims, paralysed for what pride? Seriously 🤦♂️ no thanks.
Trench warfare in WW1 was absolute hell.
These people didnt even know what they were getting into. One day you are a farmer plowing the field, the next you are thrown into a trench, faced with the most murderous and vile machines we ever invented. They knew swords and muskets, but suddenly they had to charge through machinegun fire, dodge artillery shells, avoid tanks, see people die of gas attacks, witness planes dropping steel darts that rip you apart head to toe. They lived in muddy trenches that were full of suffering, diseas and constant risk of death by entirely unknown and horrible ways for months.
Painful deaths too. Injuries with no treatment plans. Weapons made to maim and to invoke fear.
Its so horrible, youd think it could only be fictional.
Its hard to consider anyone made it out of there without severe issues.
And sadly now with the west sending some of the most technologically advanced weaponry, to Ukraine to help them fight the Russians, people are instantaneously obliterated in the blink of an eye. Yet we brainwashed ourselves and say “at least they went quickly.” War is hell no matter the era. But I absolutely agree, the era you speak of WAS SO MUCH MORE BRUTAL.
Don't forget about the flamethrowers, which were so horrific they were banned from use in warfare.
The only hell i believe in is the one we humans create ourselves
@@ti2218 Flamethrowers have never been banned from use against military targets, although legislation has been attempted - do not perpetuate this stupid myth. The closest you'll find is protocol III of the convention on certain conventional weapons, but it only restricts the usage of incendiary weapons to avoid *civilian* casualties.
@@BlurbFish actually, it cannot be used on people period. It can only be used to clear foliage. Of course we break the Geneva conventions all the time anyways but it is still banned against people.
My Grandfather, tough as nail type, would cry whenever recalling his time fighting in WW1. One story that stuck with me, after giving everything to the war, when it was over they turned to all the men and said it over - go home. Broken, beaten, starved and penniless, thousands of miles from home they set off on foot. They would tie cable and rope to their feet as shoes. Feet worn to the bone. He would explain they would be walking shoulder to shoulder talking and your friend would just collapse. Their bodies just gave up. Malnourished, infection and exhaustion. They could only leave them on the side of the road to die as they marched on.
Its a crime that those that start these wars are never the ones that suffer for it. and so, absent of accountability they make all the same decisions.
Next war thats fought, we should all grab a politician and drag them to the front line. If nothing else, it will cull the government of the thinking that starts these problems, and be a cautionary tale to the next crop.
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ ew dude , " just do for others what you do for yourself" ,none of that white evangelical new testament bible bull**** everyone pushes ,plus Titus Bible has everything one would need to combat corruption.
We can blame the war like German people's for this war the 2nd world war an Bible prophecy tells us that the European union lead by Germany will start the 3rd world war as well.mark this comment an when it happens you'll know that there was a prophet (Herbert Armstrong) among us an that GOD sent him the be the modern day Elijah.check out his book America and Great Britain in prophecy.
Maybe if TV would showe more of this als less Rambo, people would finally realise that there is nothing cool or honoring about war. That after all they are left alone with all the consequences of that disaster. Maybe then we will finally judge politicians by what they do and not what they say.
It's always the poor that suffer in war. Always. It's a f-ing crime in my mind that what has been done to the people in our name for "peace".
why do i feel like i read your comment somewhere before, exact same text too
My great-grandfather was a WWI vet. I only met him once when I was very young and it was absolutely terrifying. It must be one of my earliest memories. He was sitting and suddenly belted out the most blood-curdling sound of pure horror. I scrambled to my mom for comfort and she said "it's alright, he's ok" and I remember thinking even then "how can someone make that sound and be alright"? As an adult I asked my father about him and was told that he would regularly stare off into space and scream... but it was particularly scary when it happened while driving!
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My grandpa was in ww2. He would scream regularly in the middle of the night. He passed in 2012 but I wished I would have asked him more about his experiences.
I remember this happening as well, can't remember who it was but it's an early memory.
@@anh7807 Perhaps it's for the better that you did not. maybe he wouldn't have wanted to relive the memory consciously again. Or maybe he wouldn't have wanted to be acknowledged as week for being the way he was. You shouldn't blame yourself for it.
Какой ужас!...
My grandpa was in Finland while ww2. He died for 3 months ago rest up bro🙏🏽❤️😂 And I remember when he falls asleep then just wakes up by screaming. So them nightmares still there even after 82 years. He was the most savage kid under ww2 tho. He fkn stole food and shit from german camps and tried to steal a tank too😂 and I remember when i asked him if it was fun he said "if you didnt have food and friends with you. No it wasnt. But if u had ye it was hella fun but it comes to you when u walk over a field full of bodies blown up to pieces"
The poor soul at 0:49 you can see he never left that battlefield.
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It's like he's trying to open his eyes and wake up from a nightmare even though he's already awake
As the one at 2:16, who seeks to hide from the enemy, the bombs, the gunfire and the horror around him
I think they call that the thousand yard stare, whenever I see the video of that man I can see why they call it that. He’s seen some terrible things!
@@frankjosephdaniels3733The stare usually refers to the expressionless, unfocused look that people get when they dissociate, he looks like he's full on reliving events; which is another symptom of PTSD. I think dissociating would have been a mercy for this man.
My mother's grandfather was a WWI Veteran and apparently an awful man. I've never heard anyone speak kindly of him. One of my mother's relatives asked her grandmother how she could stand to be with him. Her reply was, "He wasn't always like this". I believe the war changed him.
That’s actually one reason for why Prohibition came to exist. WW1 broke a lot of men, and when they came back, they drank. The anti-saloon league and other groups, especially the women against alcohol groups in the early periods of protest sited alcohol as a part in how their husband’s became abusive. I think it had a part in their decline into indecency, but I believe WW1 was the root cause for most of these cases.
@@theodoreroosevelt2154 women moment
@@kubli365 hundreds of millions of young boys dead in the war just to protect his families and countries and womans of today are like hmmm im feeling oppressed
@@theodoreroosevelt2154 I just had a sudden realization that much of the failed social reforms and social practices performed at the time were probably done in part to our ignorance of how men felt.
My grandmother's father was a "drunk" as she called him, he fell down some stairs in the mid 30s and died, her mother apparently blamed his death on him being a drunk and so did my grandmother. He was a ww1 vet, evidently never drank before the war. And I remember her blaming his drinking on his friends being bad influences, and how hanging around so many guys made him a "barbarian". Only now am I assuming he was likely very broken because of the war and his inability to find emotional refuge, and saw no other way to cope.
My grandmother who told me much of this is senile now, I only wish I had this insight while her mind still worked as it once did, I probably would've told her this. She was/is a very "classic" woman in a sense, she held men to very outdated standards, always expecting them to have their hair short, be quiet, don't cry or complain. I know this because that's exactly how she raised me when I was under her supervision for the summer as a kid.
I'm not trying to speak ill of her by any means, I love her very much. But she is very much a product of her time.
@Stephanie Yee Awful in what way?
As a veteran with PTSD I sit here with tears in my eyes. I don't suffer this badly but I weep for them
Because they were bombed literally every 4 seconds
God bless you sir. May peace be with you.
Your situation may not be as bad as theirs, but what you’ve been through is similar. On that level you can relate
I’m so sorry for what you had to go through. War is a terrible thing that nobody could even begin to comprehend what it would feel like to be in the middle of it. I only know some first hand stories my grandfather told me. God bless you and I’m happy you’re still here with us
God bless you brother. My son is getting ready to deploy to Sudan as I write this. God keep him and his men.
My grandfather fought in Stalingrad as a machine gunner. He tried talking about it once and all he could come out with was "they turned into minced meat" while violently shaking. He lost his leg at 17 during the war but walked so well with his prosthetic that you would've never guessed. He ended up drinking himself to death though.
War should never be justified because it not only scars an entire generation of men, but the generation after it.
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My WW2 veteran grandfather drink heavily when he came back, there was very little empathy in our family, pity yes but no empathy.
@@hummingpylon
Highly doubt y’all clowns even knew anybody from ww1 or the civil war lmao it’s been almost 200 years since civil war and a 100 and some change from ww1 y’all be saying anything stupid that comes out y’all’s mouths
When Stalinograd fell my father was a HQ driver for british 8th army at el alamein. He was having a great time knocking around Cairo as a young carefree guy. One trip up the line he stopped to chat to some infantrymen. When they asked him where he would be in the evening and he told them having a cold beer in a favourite bar in 'Alex', they looked at him as if in a dream....cold beer, unimaginable to them. After the war Dad always said that he was the luckiest guy alive.
@@drpeterc12 когда Сталинград пал?
The veterans that's hiding under the bed is so heartbreaking 💔 these soldiers have been through so much and seen a lot of horrific things during the war.
One can only imagine the horrors of war they had seen
too much
Till it ends with you tearing yourself apart physically or metaphysically
Maybe by what they have done themselves.
@Sanctus Paulus that maybe those soldiers were traumatized by what they did, not because what they saw, which is the usual explanation.
@@imulippo5245 Are you a combat vet? I can guaran' fuckin' t that they saw terrible things.
My father was a tunnel rat he was not as bad as some of these heroes we see here , my father would sleep walk a lot and sometimes crawl down the hallway and you could never come up behind him or touch his back when he was not looking My father was stabbed in the lower back and had his thumb shot off and suffered from agent orange exposure his whole life. May these brave men rest in peace.
Agent Organge? First time reading about that, and it certainly sounds like what my culture would consider a war crime. How did you not rebel against that government is not easily understood for an outsider.
I remember the guys that went to Vietnam that you could Never wake up from sleep, because they will wake up and kill.
@@korosuke1788 Agent Orange was a chemical used to kill foliage & plants so the enemy had no place to hide or less places to hide because of the tunnels they made so a lot of the American soldiers during Vietnam that were handling it got it on their skin which got absorbed into the blood stream & caused all kinds of health issues mainly cancer . I knew I guy back in the 80s who was in Nam from a local neighbor kid I knew & this guy was crazy ! He would shoot at things through his windows at night or day because he was hearing things that weren't there & I remember going in to meet this guy with my neighbor & he would sit & scrape what looked like dried scaly skin off of his arms using a Bowie knife in his chair drunk & high as a kite . I went over again with my neighbor one day & just as we pulled up he started blasting the shot gun out one of the windows but not at us so needless to say I never went back there again with my neighbor in fear of being shot to death by someone that should have been in a funny farm locked up from society. I am sure this Nam vet either died from cancer from the Agent Orange or he ended up committing suicide but not sure because I had moved away some years later & lost touch with my neighbor who I went to school with when growing up . This Nam vets name was Doug McDougal who lived in St Francis Minnesota out in the country I do remember .
@@korosuke1788 do you live under a rock?
@@popmerde You think everyone in the world should know about agent orange? There are more people on the internet than just Americans.
My grandfather came back from the Great War, hard on my grandmother and my mother and aunt that he was changed. He faithfully went to church and when we grandkids were little, he smiled, made ice cream, and gave best hugs ever! Have his medals and yet the medals for Sunday school perfect attendance for so many years mean more. Died in his sleep at 80. Whole town came to remember him.
Hello, friends . I am 50 years old, 25 of them worked in intensive care. But I'm crying, looking at these shots, like a child.
May God rest their souls.
The wording confuses me. Are you asking god to let there souls rest? I’m confused
@Kiwi Viking keep dreaming.
@Kiwi Viking keep dreaming.
Amen!
And yet "God" made this experience possible.
Who is responsible?
So awful, these poor traumatised people, and in a time when PTSD was even less understood than it is now... Broken by this pointless, awful war.
They weren’t even given a choice either, they were just shipped out by the hundreds to fight someone else’s war.
Thanks To Modern Science and medicine.
You can see though that the doctors are trying to understand and to help. There had never been a war like that before.
Well in this video it is definitely not a PTSD
@@Saligano93 it is
War is the worst thing humans have ever done.
I was 12 in 1950 living in a small town in Oregon. My father owned a print shop and weekly newspaper. I noticed that almost every day a man would walk by my father's shop. He would walk about ten feet, then stop and shake from his head to his legs, get control of himself and then walk another ten or so feet and repeat the shaking. World War II had ended just six years previously and I thought he's been hurt in the war. But my dad told me that he was a soldier in World War I and was "shell shocked".
I still remember this poor man. War is a horrible thing!
Grew up seeing a lot of former soldiers who everyone said "counted their steps" in one unusual way or another
Sadly not for our psycopath leaders
@@yuribezmenovthegreat4705 witnessing a psycopath now named vlad 'the terrible'
Damnnn
That's an incredible story. Being able to even say you've seen a WW1 vet in person is amazing to me. The psychological effects on those vets literally makes me cry......
P.S. also in Oregon.. Springfield.
My grandfather fought in ww2 and lost a leg. He’s was such a wholesome, nice person who adored his grandchildren and was very loving, but he had horrible PTSD, and I remember him having episodes of blood curdling screaming. It was during these times, he went red, and it was survival mode after that. Once he calmed down, he was fine.
This is so sad
This is why older Americans oppose arming Ukraine and NATO entry, while young Americans approve.
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@@Tattlebot So, you would prefer abandoning them to the ruscists, rather than fulfilling (partly) the guarantee of national integrity they were given by the Budapest memorandum, guaranteed by Russia (!!!), the UK and the US of A? The USA have one word... or haven't they?
@@st-ex8506 reread your comment and consider how immature it is.
@@Tattlebot I re-read my comment, and find it not only to be mature enough, but also quite logical... and ethical also, not proning reneging on a promise.
Is it my last phrase, written obviously tongue-in-cheek, that you find immature?
My grandfather and his brothers are/were all WWII vets, I remember one of my great uncles telling me a story about being pinned behind a wall by a German machine gunner before finally being shot, after he fell from behind the wall he shot the man in the face. I remember him shaking violently while telling the story before he started to cry, he was in his early 90’s at the time and passed away shortly after, but that story is forever etched in my mind. His remaining brothers were stationed in the pacific and don’t speak of the war in almost any way except of coming home. Absolutely horrific what was done to those young men.
It's because people these days don't understand it.
Think it's great because it's what in games
The war in the pacific was so horrifying that no one talks about it. What the Germans did in the west is nothing compared to what the Japanese did in the East.
@@aer_ea European Jews would disagree!
@@groupewaite True that...
My grandfather and four brothers were the same. Rarely, if ever, spoke of the things they saw. My grandfather was known to speak a bit to his sons later in life. Watching German soldiers dig a hole to hide in, he said he waited until they were tired to kill them. Being 30 years old and older than most infantry he was commander of a couple of tanks under Patton. He spoke of the orders to press so hard after the German retreat that he ran over many of their own men in the sprint. Horror stories you could not make up. So sad.
My great grand father ( wilfred colegate) fought in both world war 1 and 2 got mustered gassed by Germans was given 6 months to live. He died 20 odd years later! My dad said he never spoke of the wars. Respect to all who was in the wars !
My grandfather went through absolute hell in WW2. He was so loving to his grandkids, but even then, I could see it in his eyes. He'd seen things that scarred him for life.
@@MarsPriest Show some respect.
@@MarsPriest who hurt you?
WW2 wasn't nearly as mentally taxing as WW1, though I reckon he probably has been through a lot
@@anonymousmyvern8927 says the kid online.
my grand dad was an WW2 army medic, I can't imagine
WIthout context, one would think these men were born with severe mental disabilities... devastating to see what war can do to a person.
They pretty much died in the trenches but dragged their remains back home.
That was very poetic.
Their brains most definitely did die there. Very saddening.
The last guy was cured by Dr. Hurst, you can see him struggling to walk at first before they cut to him walking outside and down some steps. But apparently he still had some ticks with his hands
Very deep Alex....and well said.
That hit the feels. Very well said, brother
I heard stories from friends who work in a nursing home. They had ww2 vets. One was a pow. He still screamed out in his sleep and they had to be very careful about comforting /re orientating him. He was so deep in his sleep and trauma when he woke up he couldnt see he was safe . Others didnt want to be touched/taken care of at all. Extreme trauma to their senses. It was heartbreaking. To think they were just boys being sent off to fight.
The ones who started all these wars sold you the hoax that made them out to be victims, demonising the hero who nearly ended their reign.
Yeah if you work in a nursing home you see lots of war trauma and racism trauma. It's pretty hard seeing older people cope and having severe PTSD
May the old and rich men who sent these men into that hell spend their eternity in the lowest and most depeserate levels of hades. Forever.
They are
Actually ptsd-related suicide rates among war veterans are high today too, but most countries ignore this issue and don't help the veterans, or take some bare-minimum ineffective measures.
There are also a lot of quite BIG differences between today's "wars" and WW1.
Well most countries aren't warring today. The powerful countries are,i.e. USA,U.K.,Israel etc.
@@whatname4613 you're not well informed
It's always "support our troops" just for the sake of the slogan.
@Honest Abe war
As a veteran, my heart aches for these poor individuals on both sides of the conflict. War is a horrible thing, and should be avoided at all costs. Who knows what contributions, inventions and ideas perished along with the lives and sanity of these men. Anyone that has experienced indirect fire, knows the sickening feeling.
Thank you for your service sir. I sincerely hope everything is going well in your life.
I have a red fleece blanket that I used to “hide” under in Afghanistan.
My wife hates the stupid thing, but I have an un natural attachment to it. Like a child.
I consider myself lucky that I do not suffer from any extreme symptoms of ptsd.
Thank you for your service
While in Afghan I was lucky enough not to have been in a situation where I was in a direct firefight. My brother, who served in Fallujah and Ramadi was not so lucky. Still, to this day he doesn't talk to any of us, no matter what we do to reach out.
@@ADPax10 respect for you both
The symptoms of war neurosis, often called Shell Shock when this was filmed, were well know at the time. What was unusual about this issue at the time was the volume. Never before had so many people be involved in combat for this long. Traumatic events had been happening to people for centuries, but never to so many people in such a short period of time. There weren't much known about successful treatment, so many times there was no solution and these victims had to live the remainder of their lives with these awful symptoms. Many military commanders thought the victims were faking or were just mentally weak, so they often wanted to send these men right back into battle to prevent others from displaying the same reactions. It took many years to better understand the mental reaction to trauma, how to reduce the likely PTSD reaction, and how to treat it with modern medications and therapy.
Although it was correctly interpreted in scientific circles after the First World War, it was not recognized in society until the end of WW2. For example, as in Germany, military pressure through authority could suppress the neuroses. In the US Army they gained negative notoriety and came into conflict with the views of General Patton during the North Africa campaign.
Technically, they *were* mentally weak.
Just saying...
@@StavroginNikolaiPeople that don't know the stress these men were under, to then call them mentally weak, is amazing. These men essentially were picked up from mostly farms and small towns and dropped into the first mass casualty wartime environment in the 20th century. WW I was the training ground for using new technology to kill people faster than ever thought possible. Many of these young men just couldn't adjust to the death and destruction they saw on an unimaginable scale.
@@TroyBlake Yeah that's what the word 'weak' means. They were put in an immensely stressful situation and they crumbled mentally.
It's not a put-down, it's just a fact.
To be trapped in that awful state of mind only to be cruelly put back into a war zone.
My grandmother’s father and his brother fought on the western front in WW1. They were both lieutenants; cavalry men. They were in the 20th Hassars in the battle of Cambrai where my great grandfather sustained an injury and his brother lost his life.
The military report: “On November 27th, 1917 at the Battle of Cambrai in Bourlon Wood, Cecil and Philip Woold were hit by a German shell, seriously wounding both. The regiment had been under attack all day without receiving instruction. On their left side they fought uncovered while on their right they fought alongside the Irish Guard. The ceaseless attack of shells led their major to leave the safety of the trenches and walk in the battlefield in hopes of inspiring the men to keep fighting. When the major was hit by a shell, Cecil and Philip left the trenches to bring him back to safety, but a shell exploded between them, injuring them both. Philip was sent to recover at Fishmonger Hall, which was set up as a temporary hospital. Cecil died two days after the attack, at the age of thirty, due to the injuries he received.”
Lest we forget.
What makes it even worse is that these people weren't treated properly but either seen as weak or had to undergo treatments which are actually torture, like electric shocks. They went through hell and afterwards they were tortured as a reward.
My uncle fought in the French legions in Vietnam and when he came back he was unrecognizable, after a few years he died of alcohol addiction. Blessings for all those poor soldiers.
In face or personality ? 🤔
@@James_Vatster after war it's both
A great uncle of mine enlisted in 1946 when he was 17 years old in the FFL, some years later he was sent in Indochina. Got parachuted in a mission, conquered a Town with his platoon (or a Village, i cant remember right now) and some days later Vietminh's surrounded the whole place and attacked. No survivors, only fews managed to escape. My grandmother had his letters hidden somewhere. There is also a book about him
Eso le paso por haserle daño a los vietnamitas
I am so sorry. War is a terrible trauma - nobody deserved this. Without alcohol, or other drugs, it´s almost impossible to survive after war traumatization, with PTSD they frequently have nightmares and even during daytime they get terrible flashbacks
The importance of keeping historical documents up to current technological standards cannot be overstated: it is crucial in preserving not only the historical but also cultural value of the images, preventing them from becoming cold historical artifacts that are perceived as disconnected from the present time - thanks for this great work.
@@WakaWaka2468 Not to make a comment but to thank the creator for their time and effort
It is important to give and not always just take
Be it you tube creators or charity etc
THIS is why we must teach history, the real history in school today. They HAVE to know what we have done. The horrors our grandparents experienced, our parents had to endure during the depression WWII and the other wars. They have ZERO CLUE what the hell is going on & how we got here. It's disgusting!!
I want to thank everybody for sharing these sad moments. They make people who fought these wars live a little longer. They're parts of history that wasn't written.... yet?
Respect to all the people that went through these wars.
My great grandfather was a german veteran of the battle for Verdun. He took a lungshot there and was saved by a villager when he was crawling away from the broken trenches. Years later, he was sent to Paris in WW2 where he spent his time learning cooking from the french people - he was just tired of fighting and the war. When asked about the wars, he would never speak about WW1 but would tell how nice the French were in Paris in WW2. It was clear that WW1 left a horrifying imprint on him.
I've met people who got injured and it took the fight out of them completely. It may be he was like this, I don't know. They usually are the most peaceful understanding people in the whole world, really seems to be a good thing from what I've seen.
Verdun, jesus. Im not surprised he didn’t talk about it.
@@danbrownellfuzzy3010 Yeah, he also completely lost his interest in fighting or agression after WW1. In WW2 when he was in Paris, he told that he tried to be friends with the French because he saw no sense in treating them bad. Seems like his experiences in WW1 made him very pacifistic. It worked out because everybody praised his cooking skills after he returned, so obviously he made some friends there. =)
@@sailcvl3976 It made a huge imprint on him. When I asked about stuff like medals etc. my family explained that he threw everything right away because it reminded him too much of the horrors.
@@fimbulwinter-outdoor honestly, good for him. It sounds like he was able to move on with his life, to whatever extent that’s possible at least.
I'm so grateful for the privilege of living in peace, at this moment in human history. I could have had it ten times worse; I could have been one of these men.
@floppa floppovich global economy and nukes have probably put a pause on world wars for quite awhile - until recourses become scarce
YOU WRONG WAIT FOR IT ISRAEL HAS A PLAN FOR THE WORLD SOON !
We are taking advantage of the long found peace.
Give it 10 years tops.
With Sleepy Joe "wagging the dog" with Russia, you might still get a chance yet
I had a relative who fought in this war. My grandma would tell me stories of him. He was a US Marine gassed by mustard gas toward the end of the war. He had some serious issues when he came back home: he was always sick, vomiting profusely, I guess his sense of smell was never the same so some scents made him vomit when for a normal person they’d just be slightly repulsive. Poor guy died when he was only 40, he weighed about 120 pounds because he barely ate anything… never married because he thought no one wanted to take care of the stuff he had to deal with 😢
Well.. that is just fucking awful.. 😞
The USA unleashes all wars on the planet.Stop being a hypocrite.
“Women have always been the primary victims of war.”
-Hillary Clinton
what a kind hearted man, it takes guts to walk this earth alone, purposely, for the sake of not being a burden
@@kimhornhem5399 walking alone is rejecting government and living in the wilderness. You can't fight for anything that isn't yourself because in the end it is only your life that matters. War is a billionaires chess board and better to be off the sidelines and even the monopoly table when it comes time for war.
One of the most heartbreaking videos I've ever witnessed.
I'm at a loss for words.
me too
The soldier at 0:50 is truly heart breaking. The way he keeps looking around scared, and confused I wish I could jump in a time machine to help him. Just talk to him, and pray for him try to explain to him he's okay. Goodness this is sad, may all these people rest easy much love!
That one got me too.
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He must have seen some really bad shit. Sad indeed. May they all rest in peace.
you don't have half the balls of that man, may he rest in peace
Yeah, that was so sad. That poor man. Hope they are resting in peace.
My Great Uncle survived this war,his youngest brother died at Passendale, his other brother died at The Somme. In 1938 his mother died,2 weeks after the funeral he took a cut throat razor and cut his neck open. He was as much a causality as his brothers.
RIP,brave boys,may you find a peaceful place to sleep.
As a vet seeing these guys suffering from something that we are only getting a handle on today a 102 years later PTSD is heartbreaking. Imagine being hold up in a hole forty feet under ground while thousands of shells land exploding above your head, for weeks even months. Then having to go above ground to that hellscape and face thousands of men charging towards you doing everything in their power to kill you. I don't care how hard you think you are everyone breaks it just depends how hard the break is, Semper Fi and God be with them and those like them.
Dont forget the poison gas, months old corpses, and officer’s gun at your back if you dont fight. A truly unique hell indeed
It's not PTSD, it's a form of brain damage from the recoil of artillery.
War wasnt for pvssies
Thank you, Los Lobos for your sacrifices and your service.
@@Dave-kj4vr Yea it's definitely not purely PTSD or we would still see similar cases today. Even though soldiers aren't subjected to such a thing for such sustained periods of time it seems pretty clear that this isn't a simple psych break.
My mom used to tell me about my great uncle that was a ceebee and how after he got home they would hear him wake up screaming and ripping at the walls from flash backs being stuck in a sub where he watched his mates parish. I never met him but im proud of him for being in the service and dealing with a government that didnt care about him after.
My great aunt told me a story in the early 80s about a shell shocked elderly veteran of the civil war. He kept a pillow and a couple of blankets made perfectly under his bed as well as a pillow and a couple of blankets on top of his bed. When she was a kid she asked why and she was told that because of the war sometimes he felt better sleeping under his bed. She also told me that there were no places for these guys to get treatment, so they would either go to a mental hospital, which was a snake pit with no care, or they would live alone. My aunt Theresa live to be 103. She died in 1984.
Wow.. that's so sad to hear 😞
It's amazing to know someone who lived through WW1 and also knew someone in the civil war. Huge moments in history that seems so long ago but really wasn't.
@@TheHololo1234 The US has unleashed more wars than anyone else
May they both rest in peace
Ye, and unfortunately mental hospitals still aren't the place to get better
@@Оксана-м6ф8ж But what that has to do with my comment?
"The Body Keeps the Score" is such a great book on this. Its up to us to break this generational trauma. Our ancestors experienced it, they raised our grandparents and parents with it. We owe it to them to break the cycle
i’m reading that book right now, it’s a terrible shame what these men endured. god bless their souls.
Reading that book now, it led me here! We do owe it to them ❤
Cringe. Ptsd is what keeps us alive bro. It shows us whats dangerous and whats not. Its just very bad in this big condition and so on. You can expect that explosions are too godly for us to handle as humans but the ptsd of a bear is actually okay
@@Kaintoeterptsd is never okay. it’s a life destroying condition that leaves you damaged for the rest of your life. speaking from my own traumatic experience, don’t normalise it like this. saying ‘it’s normal bro it keeps us alive’ is so ignorant, please think about the experiences of others before saying something like this. i have blacked out, injured myself, stopped myself from making friends because i am still recovering from my trauma. it hurt me and it is still hurting me. i want you to go up to a person lying on the floor violently trembling and sobbing because they keep remembering a terrifying event and say ‘don’t worry, ptsd is helping you’.
knowing not to repeat a bad experience is not the same as PTSD.@@Kaintoeter
My Grandfather saw action in France, Belgium during WW1. Lost an eye due to a front line injury. Came home with a "$7.45 per month for life" disability. He was a great gentle man. I loved him.
Imagine that war being so loud you flinched and jolted constantly. Physically, emotionally exhausting. And seeing people die .
Frisby Griffin Anderson, 1894 - 1978. WWI veteran, my grandfather’s brother. FGA was pushed out of his family in 1926 and committed to the VA hospital in Montrose, Long Island until his death. He was ok, no one wanted him. His sister collected his social security and exploited his situation for gain. And his treatment created a stigma that my mother used against anyone she wanted to harm- the innocent are punished and the wicked live off their suffering, in my family. Thank you for this film. I can’t imagine what symptoms my great uncle endured- and how family can be so hard hearted.
That's tragic. I am glad that you can recognize the wrong made to him... By the State and the family...
Montrose is in Westchester County, NY, probably an hour or more away from LI. This is the VA I used to go to. It's strange how your aunt was able to get his social security, since the VA takes it use towards the veteran's care. She probably was a payee and was able to manipulate the system somehow. Families take more advantage of vets than one can imagine.
@@Jersey.D3vil201 thanks for writing. Frisby Griffin Anderson was born in 1894, in 1926 he committed himself I’ve learned, his family pushed him out; it was his only hope. Social security came along in 1934?, so Babe, his sister, was already ahead of it. She did way more evil than stealing his money. There were four brothers she used for money and childcare, never allowing them to marry. My grandfather fought back, and had to leave New York to survive. She called employers and told lies no one could live down. Scottish families? Think Macbeth.
This is why I clean up veteran's headstones. My brother, who formerly served in the Army, and I have addressed countless markers in local cemeteries. It is heartbreaking at times to see things in such dismay as if nobody gives a 🤬. Sometimes we don't even know the names of the people until we scrub the layers of grime off. Anyway, God Bless these people.
Thank you.
God bless you.
Thank you for your service to those men.
I salute you sir. Well done.
It’s always a sad sight to see graves covered in mud and dirt like they were forgotten. Thank you for keeping their memory alive just by keeping their grave tidy. It’s a small task but its so significant
I remember as a child watching my Uncle fall to the ground after we heard a car backfire
I laughed so hard thinking it was a joke
I was only young but I still carry that guilt
the horrors he must have seen
a child's innocence, don't feel guilty man, you didn't know
The fact that you still feel that guilt shows how much you care, that's true character mate.
@@backstabbath1986 even if he knew he was gonna laugh because kids are assholes
@@backstabbath1986 fr though I remember as a kid my cousin's buddy jumped a fence and his shoulder completely dislocated so he was hanging on from that arm and it was twitching I just started laughing but now I look back and realize he was in pain shit my shoulder hurts now sometimes maybe it's karma
You weren't to know!
💕💕.
Please try not to feel guilty. X
My great grandfather was a pilot in ww2, he ended up living with my grandparents I remember being 7 years old waking up at like 6am to him crying because a movie was on and the sounds of the spitfire reminded him of all his friends he lost :(
that's just sad man
😢😢😢
Imagine that any of them is someone you know from your town, before the war, he was a normal person that you saw at meetings, parties or whatever. He was the person you noticed because he was smart and made you laugh. And with that image of his personality, you saw him go to war of his own free will. When the war ended you received the news that he had survived and you were happy, when you went to visit him to see him, you found this...
This is so heartbreaking, especially the first video where this traumatized man is taunted and filmed like a lab rat. I think we need to go back in time and have the leaders who want to go to war duke it out among themselves in an open field and leave the rest of the world alone.
Yes disgusting lack of sensitivity, truly tragic, both the initial trauma then the treatment afterwards.
Now you know how we make animals feel. Our species as a whole is a failed experiment. Were disgusting beings and deserve to die.
100%
If any politician truly represents their people, they'd put it in their Constitution that whomever funds or declares war ought to be willing to a fight to the death cage match... if they're not willing to die, then why should they be allowed to send us to death or worse?
You don't need to go back in time, time repeats itself... And if you look in history, we tend to do same mistakes over and over again. Only this time, a world war, will simply destroy humanity. And i think this is how we'll end.
Look what happends in ukraine. The urkaine sold his heart and soul to americans, played all this victim role, influence by americans, simply to make russians respont. And they do all this propaganda that putin is bad and evil, so they can assasinate him like they did with so many leaders and the world won't say a thing, because he was the "bad" guy. We can stop this if you care enough to simply LOOK AT THE TRUTH. But most people are either too cowards to accept reality or brained washed, controled, the society made them follow their ego like zombies. This is all that matters to them, Not what is wrong, not what is right. There is only one thing who makes us trully free and at peace. The truth. THis is the only thing in this life for wich you need to fight.
Okay playing devil's advocate here: it's possible this was used to demonstrate symptoms of ptsd, that this was for documentary purposes. It's a shitty way to go about it, but they're probably thinking about the bigger picture. It's still the wrong way to go about it, but hindsight is 20/20
My great grandfather's brother suffered from shell shock. He would jump to the ground when car's exhausts popped and often would get under the bed. He later had to be interned into a mental hospital, since his family couldn't take care of him.
We have pictures of him and you can really tell that the war affected him tremendously.
@Jack Burton These men were drafted. Draft dodging is a federal crime. These men helped fight off countries that were committing systematic atrocities. Your comment is ignorant & fucking dumb.
@Jack Burton I’m sure they’ll just apologize, leave you alone and feel bad for wasting your time
That’s so sad. Sounds a little like my great uncle. He was stranded at sea for 7 days after his ship sunk in the Pacific Theater. Only he and one other seaman survived.
He was diagnosed with “shell shock” afterwards and was in and out of institutions for the rest of his life. As a little girl I was never allowed to get too close to him as he was given to unprovoked sudden acts of violence. I was terrified of him.
I recently came across a photo of him as a new recruit in his navy uniform. He looked so young and innocent and eager to serve his country. It was heartbreaking to see how war took this man and destroyed his mind.
Many prayers for peace. I hope he now feels the embrace of God. 🙏🙏🙏
Hello everyone, I am a Turk. My grandfather fought on the Yemen front in the First World War and was captured. While he was in a prison camp in Egypt, a British soldier he had known before recognised him. Probably that British soldier met my grandfather while looking for historical artefacts in Anatolia because Antalya, where we live, is a place full of Roman historical artefacts. Anyway, he made him escape at night, my grandfather returned home and when he returned home, my grandmother did not recognise him. Because he stayed in the desert for a long time, his skin darkened and became unrecognisable. My grandfather slept very little, he was always awake and alert. When I saw these men, I thought of my grandfather.
I can understand, to a very very little degree, what it feels like to someone who’s never had a traumatic event happen to them. I was involved in a pretty bad car accident that I walked away from somewhat uninjured from, besides a gash in my forehead that needed staples (very minor compared to what _could’ve_ happened). One lady driving another car was knocked out, and when she woke up she was screaming hysterically.
I didn’t think I was bothered until one day, I was driving, and I felt that *jolt* from the initial crash, and I couldn’t shake it, no matter how hard I could try to. Over and over again, just that feeling of going fast to a dead stop mixed with crumpling just kept repeating to the point where I thought I was going to get hit at any moment. I had to eventually stop on the side of the road so I wouldn’t freak out. When I went to sleep that night I could hear that screaming, almost like how they portrayed it in the movies, a distant echoed scream that I couldn’t tell if I was hearing in my head or in actual real life outside.
These men were shaken to the core on a battlefield, watching their closest newly formed band of brothers get maimed or killed right in front of their eyes, still having to take action to avoid getting killed themselves, which they probably thought was going to happen at literally *_any second_* , much like they had just witnessed happening to their fellow men. I can’t imagine the paranoia and shear terror in that moment. And much like my personal example, no matter how distant they are from it, it *haunts* them. They’re reliving that moment not only in their memories, but their bodies still remember it physically. It’s not something you can shake off, it’s your body involuntarily going into a fight or flight response off of just the thought alone.
Man, I just want to give each one of these guys a hug through the screen, but it would terrify them.. I hope that at least their souls are at peace now.
And the sad thing is that at the time they didn't know exactly what this was and how to treat them....😢 Poor souls....
@@rattus3102 exactly, it’s so sad. To imagine being that miserable and to only be able to be observed for medical science is so disheartening. These men were the groundwork for PTSD treatment today, and for that, we should be forever grateful.
I can also somewhat understand. I used to be in an abusive house where things would be thrown n destroyed, n i sometimes got beaten. I liked to think i moved on from this as i wasn't physically abused very often but i definitely have repressed these memories n ontop of that i still get startled so bad when something accidentally falls n when people get angry at me i instinctively recoil n my body physically goes back to that time i get hit after someone's yelling at me
@@astralmiind We still have a long way to go... :(
My dad told me his grandfather would freak out when there were flashes of light, like when stoking a fire. My other GGF became an alcoholic and abandonned his family after WW1. These stories were only talked about fairly recently which suggests the impact of this trauma was very long lived.
Thats because even after the war. Most soldiers will come home in shattered state. Some will hace phyaical wound, others in psychological trauma after They seen many of their comrades, friends, even family membera dead in grueaomely in the war. No man can be same after experiencing 4 years of living hell in the trenches of WW1.
There was an old man who lived near me. You'd see him walk around and suddenly stop. He'd stand still then jump and look around panicked. Local kids would laugh at him my Granddad would tell them off but they didn't care and would just swear and throw things.
My Granddad told me the man suffered from shell shock and that his wife was his carer.
Sadly his wife died and afterwards he seemed to vanish.
My heart just broke.
I am 70 now. I did 10 years in the RAF in 1970 at 17 until 28 in 1980. In those youthful days & my earlier childhood. I saw many people with ailments like these chaps. Many with terrible disfigurations to their bodies and faces. People with limbs missing faces half missing. I felt great compassion for them because the hardest part of their lives was dealing with doing everyday things like shopping while people would just stare and gawp at them without any comprehension that they were making the unfortunate's feel even more alien in a society they had fought for. Sadly, 98% of them, were not WW2 Wounded but WW1. People these days dont appreciate the horrors of war that were so widespread because they can no longer see the evidence. Those I saw in my youth, have long since passed. Thank you for this Video, lest we forget.
Et en plus ses pauvre gens on subi la grippe espagnole le tout mélanger quelle grabuge
And some people called these poor souls weak and cowardly for being so affected. So cruel. So ungrateful.
I could weep for these poor, destroyed & broken young men.
A whole generation ravaged by an evil war!
My own great grandfather fought in WW1 and my grandad said that he came back a shell of a man and that he himself had to be a man at 10 yrs old because his own father was shattered by what he’d suffered 💔
dont worry Ill take care of you
@@mica122213 simp weirdo
Simple: war is utter hell. Yet nobody seems to get it.
The media and Hollywood are the reason people think its something its not.
Too much money to be made
It is awful. The cost for freedom!
Because the people that start them don't have to fight in them.
ww1 especially. almost any other recent conflict was a walk in the park except the russion fron in ww 2
Growing-up in Paris in late 60's, early 70's, I still remember seeing disfigured veterans from ww1, I remember one man that had his skull caved in on the side of his head, like half his brain was missing (he seemed mentally normal, surprisingly), a lot of blind men too, from mustard gas, very scary for a kid. "War is hell" is a cliché, but those men saw their friends get killed in front of them getting eaten by rats and rot there because it was impossible to recover the bodies unless you decided to commit suicide, it happened. Seeing those shell-shocked men is heartbreaking, that guy, under the bed still hear the bombs falling.
oh dear
the men with broken faces.
😢
This makes my heart hurt. Having experienced what they experienced , fighting in a war they did not start, just for their lives to be altered so horrifically .
My grandfather was in wwII. My father asked him about the war only once when he was a young man. He had avoided doing so as my grandfather never brought up the war himself. My grandfather was only able to tell him a bit. What he chose to talk to him about was how he had to find and carry cadavers of soldiers and sometimes civilians, and load them onto the back of trucks. He was in Poland when this happened. He visibily got upset and asked that the topic be changed.
My grandfather was a quiet man but loved the company of his family. He wouldnt avoid the world thankfully, and was able to socialize, but he never could talk of the war again.
God bless the soldiers and their families. War is an atrocity.
Maybe he told the most gruesome story he could think of and the rest wasn't worth mentioning as far as he was concerned because he thought it might be too blasé?
@@aFoxyFox. Possibly. I recently found out that he was deployed very close to the end of tbe war. We are unsusre if he experienced any active fighting, but certainly was there for 'cleanup' of the aftermath.
Thank you for your comment.
@@allisonallen4003 Thank you so much for your reply, I really appreciate it and all the information you mentioned.
Same with my great uncle. He only talked about it once that my mom could remember. He was so ashamed that they would eat amid dead soldiers. There was no where else to eat because the dead were everywhere but he was appalled at the inhumanity of it.
I'm 41 years old and its weird to think that these men were younger than me when they had their lifes damaged by war. Probably they reached (if so) the 40's with no wife, no children, no home. May God receive then in peace.
I'm 63, have no wife, no place to call my own and worst of all, no children. I suffered PTSD after terrible events in the 1990s. It took everything from me.
However, finally after 25 years of mental illness, I'm now in the process of rebuilding my life and helping others to do the same. Although I have no children, I taught music for 17 years and had input to many children's lives. In no way does that fully compensate, but it helps.
My PTSD lasted 7 years, and transformed into depression. Finally it is over after narrowly surviving suicide 18 months ago. I had to be resuscitated, and fortunately had the medical and psychological support to pull through. The men in the video often didn't survive. I weep for them having suffered a mere fraction of what they endured.
People should never fool themselves into believing that discrimination is not rife against mental health sufferers. It is incredibly difficult being in a world of apparently perfect people whilst knowing what imperfection truly is. On fathers day, I'm in tears most of the day, but look on the tears as cleaning my soul from the 25 years of mental trauma.
My strength and my faith has kept me alive. Now it is time that my strength and my faith also helps keep others alive. It's not enough to merely survive. Its time now for true surthrival.
All those poor souls that are documented in the video should NEVER be forgotten. May all victims of all wars rest in the most wonderful peace.
Cheers Pete
@@PeteChatteris Hope you're doing better dude
@Zahdorfi sane and religion in the same sentence😂😂😂
@Zahdorfi It was a war. If you really think God would deny the kingdom of Heaven to warriors, then that wouldn't be a God I'd want to worship. Reaching Heaven isn't about being perfect in your mortal life.
@Jack Snow God is a point of reference in which humans can ascend to, if we follow God's grace. If we were angels, there'd be no need for God.
My great grandfather from my moms grandma was serving in the Romanian army in WW1 when he was 16 years old, my guy was a warm, gentle guy. The war changed him in a point that when he arived home after the war he did not say anything, just went into the home with a blank look on his face. He recalled that in all of that time when he aimed a rifle at an enemy he shot at the ground and all ways said "God don't make them shoot me, as I will not shoot anybody".
My great uncle was a pilot in Romanian Air corps in WWI
@@steverossini Oh nice, well i also forgot something about mine, there is like a monument in Alba Iulia, some sort of pillar or wall where the names of the people who participated in the Great Union convention of 1918 were going to have their names engraved there forever, i went there and i was still able to see the name of my chap.
He is a man of rarest character
@@blueclover9918 Well thank you very much! a Sad thing about this situation is that I have little pieces of information that survived all of this time to even show that he was real, I know that from my mother and other relatives is that my guy had a lot of medals (even ones from WW2, as he was 40 years old when he went into the conflict) , but sadly most of them were neglected and the ones that survived are either with him in the grave or stolen by some stepmother that was mean to my mother, that she fleed to Austria never to be heard of again. The only thing that I have from him before he died in 2005 was a plate that was given to the participants of the 1918 Great Union event, that showed that city back how it was in 1918. It's in decent condition, but only a piece of it fell off and the string has to be replaced.
@@_vla I think some of what these wars teache us that we need to learn more about our families who came before us. We kind of skirt around the subjects because some of them are so painful - but if there is a way to learn about them without causing pain to those who live through them - I think it is well worth it.
I hope they found peace, no one deserves this.
I just realized my great grandfather was shell shocked….. now he rests peacefully thank you GP Joe (1912-2005)
Слёзы на глазах наворачиваются , сколько сломанных душ, за что нам такое горе , почему мы не можем договориться , у людей взгляд более искренний и невинный, чем взгляды людей в мирное время , порой на улице, в общественном транспорте у людей глаза куда страшнее..
Мой прадед был немецким военнопленным в русском ГУЛАГе в Сибири. Однажды они бросили моего прадеда в ледяной пустыне, чтобы дать ему умереть. Российские водители транспорта обнаружили его и отвезли в большой город, откуда он каким-то образом смог бежать обратно на родину.
can you stop bombing ukraine? thanks!
Я отвечу вам цитатой из Хемингуэя:
"...автор этой книги пришел к сознательному убеждению, что те, кто сражается на войне, самые замечательные люди, и чем ближе к передовой, тем более замечательных людей там встречаешь; зато те, кто затевает, разжигает и ведет войну, - свиньи, думающие только об экономической конкуренции и о том, что на этом можно нажиться. Я считаю, что все, кто наживается на войне и кто способствует ее разжиганию, должны быть расстреляны в первый же день военных действий доверенными представителями честных граждан своей страны, которых они посылают сражаться."
Предисловие к роману "Прощай, оружие!" 1948 года издания
@@franzlinke8086интересно, а как он оказался невинным немецким военнопленным? Просто так форму нашел?😂
@@ГлебСтрельченко-у6л О, это правда. Заключенные в концлагерях и ГУЛАГах всегда были там не зря. Я почти забыл
Чьи-то дети , мужья... Как же больно это видеть, но история повторяется
And so many were not believed and even shot for cowardice. Truly, there is no crueller species than humans.
As a fellow soldier, my heart breaks for the young men on all sides of these conflicts who suffered for their bureaucrats and aristocrats in charge. It makes me sickened.
You shouldn’t be a soldier in the first place.
Soldiers are disposables for politicians and the elite. You are fighting their war. Not yours.
@@Mr.Riffian thats why I no longer actively serve anymore. They target young men who are easily led by the nose into war using emotions.
Then why are you serving ? You will be doing what these guys did one day
@@ssww3 ''peace'' miSsiOnS
@@luigimartelli5123 and “police actions” and “sanctions enforcement” and…
WW1 is by far the most PTSD inducing war of all time. The horrors those soldiers must've experienced
That's why by the time it was called "the great war" and latter on "the war to end all wars"
The introduction of airplanes,machineguns and trench warfare changed everything forever.
@@Demons972 Machineguns and trench warfare were already common before ww1
@@mitonaarea5856 uhh non ?
The most that we have records of. We don't know if any previous wars had the same problem because WW1 was when we first started to pay attention.
@@valian8985 American civil war, Russo Japanese war are famous for having trench warfare and the mortal use of machineguns.
Watching this sends a shiver down my spine, and gets to me in a weird emotional way, because we have all seen depictions of the great war in movies, but we wil never know what it's really like unless you have experienced it at first hand.
this is why it is stuped to sign up for war. go be gamer insted of soldier
@@SoyAntonioGamingnot really. I believe some countries make you go to army boot camp. Not join but just in case it goes down. It’s best to prepare for the real thing physically than trying to get diamond uzi skin in cod.
WWI was so brutal, worse than ww2, yet it’s romanticized in all media.
I remember learning of somebody collecting accounts from soldiers (I wish I remembered thr context; the message stuck with me more than details like which war and all that. Seems to have been WWII or possibly WWI). He reported that in their final moments, many men resorted to asking, calling, crying for their mother. That on death's doorstep, no matter their heroics or purpose, many became frightened children again before they died. Just wanting their mother. That stuck with me.
My maternal grandfather fought in the Marines in WWII. My paternal grandfather fought in the Marines in Korea. My Uncles served in the Army in Vietnam (one of them was a Ranger). Most of my older maternal cousins fought in Desert Storm and (mainly) OIF in the USMC. My brother and I fought in the Army in OEF.
It’s weird having the shared trauma and experience of actually going to war and fighting, then coming home and trying to make sense of everything after across several generations.
I’m sure, for most of my family, and absolutely positive for myself, that we all would serve our tours a thousand times over before we served a single day in the meat-grinder that was WWI.
I’m just glad all of my family and myself came back from the wars we fought.
The worst experience out of all of us are my Vietnam Veteran uncles. They came home to no support from a war they never agreed with, let alone wanted to fight. Then they were derided for being forced to go fight a useless war against their will, and managing to come home. Just a “you did your time. Good luck son, here’s a morphine prescription, and a bunch of angry hippies, draft dodgers, college students, and ‘conscientious objectors’ that will treat you like scum, and a country that forgot fighting a war absolutely can destroy your hope in humanity, and will destroy you physically and mentally”.
My brother and I had a somewhat similar experience, but at least we had some kind of support when we came home from the Army. I’ll be forever grateful that I have a family that understands firsthand how hard it is to support someone you love when they come home broken from being away from home, fighting some other asshole’s war, and how to help us try to move on and build a good life afterwards. A lot of my brothers didn't have that, and they chose to not deal with it for the rest of their lives. I don’t blame them, but I miss them dearly.
War sucks. I don’t care what side you’re fighting on. It’s not right, and nobody should ever have to experience the worst of what people can do to each other when other, more “powerful” people can’t settle their differences like civilized human beings.
Hooah.
Shell shock was generally seen as a sign of emotional weakness or cowardice.
Many soldiers suffering from the condition were charged with desertion, cowardice, or insubordination.
The unlucky ones were subjected to a mock trial, charged, and convicted.
Some shell shocked soldiers were shot dead by their own side after being charged with cowardice. They were not given posthumous pardons.
That was the biggest war after the birth of psychology. We might judge them in retrospect but you got to also have sympathy for the general public. Most those people couldn't even convince themselves or their family that they are shell-shocked. Nor that it was a normal reaction to the horrors they lived through. Plus no one knew what to do with them. Seeing this, I feel very sad for them and so grateful I wasn't born a man during that time.
Oh God... thats how they dealt with them ? Thats horrifying.
Government are hesitant to pardon people, after all no bureaucracy would like to admit their mistake.
@@Solastar read some of the other comments. Many of the doctors and such believed these men were cowards for this behavior. Common thinking in those days was that shell shock was a cowards way to avoid putting themselves in any more danger and many thought these men were "faking it" to escape the fighting. After all the firsthand accounts of life at the front and what "going over the top" entailed, I wouldn't blame someone if they DID "fake it"!!
somewhere soon after came the lobotomy
My grandfather's older brother was a medic during world war 2. Despite all the trauma patching up wounded g.i's in battle, my grandfather, who served in the Pacific, said his brother was surprisingly o.k until his medical unit arrived at the nazi slave labor camp of buchenwald. My grand uncle, my grandfather's older brother, had a nervous breakdown in late 1945 before he came home. Once discharged and released from the hospital, he committed suicide. My grandfather went on to lead a normal life but the loss of his older brother affected him deeply.
my grandfather didn't talk much about the war at all but I do remember trying on his uniform and asking him what it was like and Buchenwald was one that I remember he said was a horror.
Sorry for him and your grandfather's loss. I can see myself falling into a very dark, desperate place if I experienced the same things.
@@javicoca the war was different in the Pacific and in europe. Yes, the japanese committed atrocities, but it was put into industrial efficiency by the nazis.
Your grandpa must have really loved and admired his older brother
He probably realised he fought the wrong enemy and couldn't live with what he'd done to his German brothers and sisters
It was extreme traumatic experience that disrupted their minds . Hurst actually cured shell shock in one session by normalizing them back into an environment before the war. He had a 90% success rate.
That sounds very interesting. Can you suggest any further reading? What exactly did he do?
@@wernerempire yes please 👆👆
How did he do that? Some kind of hypnosis?
It was Herr Doktor Sigmund Freud who had such success rate with WWI veterans .
@@enterBJ40 isn't that the same guy who said that weaving was invented because girls wanted to braid their pubes to look like penises or something XD
Imagine that's your son or your brother that returns in that state.
WW1 Veterans had it the hardest. As an Iraq War Veteran I have so much respect and sympathy for what they endured. May they all rest in peace and thank you for your service.
I was in Iraq in 04 for OIF III. These men and women from WWI/WWII always have amazed me and have my utmost respect! I sometimes wish I had been born then in that time!
How many inosent children, men and women are suffering in the same exact way, or even worse, because of your military operation in Iraq?
You should be ashamed of yourself, not proud.
Nice post Steve but do remember many weren't in service, around half of the total form the UK and USA were conscripts and were there against their wishes although obviously they largely fought and died like the rest.
@@muhammadwahidy4684 They had the misfortune of being born in the wrong generation. They had noble ideas of ww1 and ww2 in their heads when they joined and were horribly used by their own governments. I am 38 and almost joined the army when i was 16 in 1999. For a long time i had regrets, but when i saw all of the death and destruction caused in iraq and afghanistan, i was glad i never joined!!
@@ninjay2k317 glad you didn't, thank you!
0:02 poor dude, he was chillin but then he had flashbacks
The man at 0:48 breaks my heart. He is 10000% aware at all times, every sound every movement he can't help but react. What a nightmare.
During war you have to always be alert, keep your ears and eyes wide open because if you relax you could die
This person is still in that state of fight and alert despite having returned home, his mind is still there
"War is when the government tells you who the enemy is.. Revolution is when you decide that for yourself"--Ben Franklin
Most people don't realize how utterly brutal this war was with trench warfare, chopping and bludgeoning each other with sharpened shovels and clubs full of nails and bayonet charges against machine guns. They lived in cold rain and mud for months with trench foot and disease.
I would of thought the American civil war would of been just as terrible.
@@bobhill3941 in many ways but they didn't have to face charging into withering machine gun fire and living in muddy ditches for months in end.
@@stevenlowe3245 Thanks Steve, the civil war to me just seemed like the closest comparison.
I think at this point anyone who knows anything about WWI knows how bad it was.
The worst part about WW1 was the artillery. Being thrown up and down and having your eardrums pierced by a week long artillery barrage would have drove you insane.
What these soldiers had to cope with in the trenches of WWI is nearly beyond description; it was so unnatural and terrifying.
Recently, in Croatia, we had an earthquake of magnitude 5,5 that shook us well for some 20 seconds. The city was badly damaged, in billions dollars.
I gotta tell you, for the next couple of months people would talk about strange nerve sensation in their knees, as they are still feeling the ground shaking.
It is scary to even imagine what the eyes of this poor soldiers have seen, ears have heard and body has felt amongst of rain of shells and bombs.
God rest their souls!
Earthquakes can do that?
A few days ago we had a 5,9 earthquake happen here in Chile, though nothing really happens here due to buildings being built to withstand earthquakes it still brings chills to that one 8,8 earthquake we had some years ago, and I feel like it's still happening ever after some minutes...
@@CannibaLouiST Yeah they definitely can, some countries aren't really prepared for earthquakes so when they get hit pieces can break off buildings and hit people passing by, collapse or be uninhabitable after
Isn't 5,5 normal or barely noticeable?
Война действительно ужасная вещь, наверное не один катаклизм не превзойдет её по жестокости, ведь тут, люди убивают друг друга, за идеи которым их учили.
Пусть души умерших в войне покоятся с миром, надеюсь люди не начнут новых войн. Если начнут, значит прошлые жертвы были напрасны...