Set of G20 for $250 or $900 for the G410s. Would love to see the performance differences of 8 years in tech "advancements." Well done Andrew. Keep em coming. Cheers from New York City. Mich
thisjustanother my dad had used those irons.. made the switch this year to the new Calloway Maverick irons. Gained 20-30 yards per club. Would recommend to not buy off shelf, go get fitted.
I appreciate your excellent,honest & realistic reviews.Reducing your swing speed to that of a typical club golfer is more valuable than getting the results of a young pro smashing the ball distances way beyond the capabilities of many oder club golfers.Many thanks for your interesting advice.
Good review as always 👍🏾 I think the slightly more yardage gained came from the fact that the 410 spun abit less. Happy with my G400's think I'll be sticking with them.
@@brodygoalie id take stopping power on greens over minimal distance gains. Also many companies going with juiced lofts so folks can hit 9 iron 150 yards. This is useless imo. Leaves so many gaps.
Hi Andrew. Would like to see you hit a regular flex grafite vs senior soft regular flex in a 7 iron to see if you get better performance with one particular shaft flex. Thanks
Very helpful. Even watching the video I didn't like the sound the 410s were making. I'm a 14 and have G30s which make a great sound on contact. I played very little between 2015 and mid 2018 so lots of wear left. Kind of hoping the 400s drop a little more now that the 410s are out - would be a nice and reasonable upgrade.
I honestly feel that the G400 were a better set. Better feel, and I think better looking. Can't say exactly what I didn't like about the G410s, they weren't bad clubs, but the G400 are really fantastic. The feel is softer and more solid.
Before making a decision try both clubs. If feel off the face is important I personally like the G400. The G410 club face feels really hard and had a weird sound.
Great Review. Looking to switch out my G20s for either the 400 or 410, durability of the finish could be the decider so interested to hear your verdict on that one.
Thanks for doing the comparison, at 70+, in the fall of 2017 moved to the 400s with graphite shafts (first Ping product after playing 50+ years), have recently looked at the i500s, and was interested in what the 410s offered. Very happy with the 400s, and after seeing your review, plan on staying with them in 2019. Definitely appreciate the info ! :)
Your right knee movement is a great way to initiate the downswing correctly. The next time I am practicing my swing, I will try it and let you know how I got on. It is also a great way of keeping you relaxed and initiating the downswing correctly. Charles
A very good comparison and it seems clear that aesthetics apart, anyone with the G400 irons will not be disadvantaged by sticking with them for another season or two. Also the G400 irons would seem to be a shrewd purchase with a free custom fitting, assuming their retail price is now going to be reduced a little.
Lovely head to head Andrew. Would a g400 owner really spend all that more money to gain 5 extra yards of carry? I watched the chap on teeuplo this morning say the new irons felt worse than the new irons! In fact his said the whole new range of clubs from ping felt hard this year.I suppose you just have to test yourself really thanks. 😊
Long-time watcher but don't comment much. My impression is the 410 is another "high launch - low spin" club but now I am really starting to look closely at the decent angles . The 410 decent angle is a degree or two steeper than the 400 so it should carry the distance with a bit of run out versus 400 shorter with more spin and a shallower angle of landing. The kind of courses and weather conditions you most frequently play in/on, as well as your preferred ball flight, would be key factors. I play a course with light wind and a majority of elevated greens. I prefer a high-launch low-spinning club as I find them a bit more consistent for carry and don't worry about the ball "ballooning" short. Could this be a blended set with 410 to 4 to 7-iron and 400 8 to PW? The sole thickness towards the toe on the 400 appears to me just a bit too wide when seen side by side. Just my opinion. Really like the videos...keep them coming.
Just a quick question after watching your very good review, is it just looks alone that would push you to 410 over the 400 as I noticed u had 5 greens hit with 400 and 3 missed with 410 I myself would rather be putting rather than chipping.
Hi Chris, I think the missed greens were down to operator error rather than the club. I don't think there is mech in it performance wise. For me the G410 wins the beauty stakes. The G400 is repositioned on price and offers great value for money. Best regards Andrew
As always great video. Not much in the differences-do you think Ping may have too many iron lines right now-iblades, pseries, i210 and now g's. Confusing for me.
Hi Allan, in comparison to previous years Ping have a wide choice of models, lots of choice for golfers of all ages, ability and handicap. Worth having a look at the web site to simplify how the range works. All the best Andrew
I am perhaps a bit of an outlier here but, Andrew, what are your thoughts about how many generations of irons do I need to see before I upgrade? I have G clubs and now there are two subsequent upgrades. When I played i10 clubs the difference between them and the G's was stark but there had been 20 and 25 before the G so one might ask "what did you expect?"
Hi Ken, I would put G, G400, G410 as all slight improvers on each model. Its when you say compare a G25 to a G400 or G410, then you can see a big change in performance and numbers. The gains will vary depending on the skill and performance of the golfer using them.
Afternoon Andrew, how much I enjoyed the Ping G400 and G410 review. I noticed something in your downswing, you always initiate it with your right knee moving forward. Is this something you always do on purpose. Another great video.
Hi Charles, always done since I was a boy which is a long time ago!. In my coaching I like to see the lower and mid half starting the downswing movement. Thanks for watching.
So Andrew. Bought on eBay a 7 iron g 30 senior flex. I also bought g 400 / 7 iron black dot senior flex so now I will go to my local golf store and see the numbers . So will hit all of these 7 irons and see if one sticks out and outperforms the other clubs. So my club I am using now which is g25 regular flex grafite against g30 and g400 in senior flex grafite black dot. I will let you know when I am able to get this done. Should be interesting. Cheers.
Hey Andrew, currently playing an old set of i5, currently playing to a 9.5 index. I tested the G410s over the weekend and really liked them, but didn't hit the G400s. With how long it's been since I last purchased, would you opt for the newer model?
Hi Michael, G400 has been repositioned on price in the UK so is great value at around £550 for seven irons. The performance is fairly similar. I think the 410 is a better looking club and the wear on the G410 lasts longer than the 400. Regards Andrew
Just ordered my G410s from Ping today. Been playing the i10 since they came out new. I'm switching to regular flex now, so I'm curious to see how my game is. I'm hoping to get more hight on my irons.
@@andrewainsworth497 Hi Andrew, I finally managed to get out and play with the new G410s. I had only had one attempt before. I was really impressed with the distance. Im hitting these at least a club further than my I 10s...Im very happy with them. They are easy to hit. The only problem I had was on a hole I was set up for a draw and it went straight. I have to really work to move it left or right. I think going to a regular flex was the right step. I could feel the difference. Take care, John
Hi John, the G410 and G400 are a larger head size and more forgiving than the i500. Best way is to go and have a fitting and try them Best regards Andrew
Good review. I have the 400s and hit them well except when the ground is hard and there is no grass under the ball, like it has been this summer when the fairways became burnt. I have dropped from 17 to 13 in 2018 so was thinking of trying i500 to see if it was any better. I will give the 410s a try along with the Mizuno Hot Metal pro.
In all your videos in which you compare/test irons, the smash factor is always the same. If I look at the videos of some other UA-camrs the smash factor varies. What do you think is the reason? PS: Great video.
Hi Benjamin, my GC2 does not have HMT(Head Measurement Technology) so the smash factor is always the same. To be honest smash factor is not a number which I feel is relevant to the vast majority of golfers. All the best Andrew
Set of G20 for $250 or $900 for the G410s. Would love to see the performance differences of 8 years in tech "advancements." Well done Andrew. Keep em coming. Cheers from New York City. Mich
i know im late. but i game 20 year old i3 o-size irons. they have been perfect. seeing the change would be amazing. ive been itching for new clubs
thisjustanother my dad had used those irons.. made the switch this year to the new Calloway Maverick irons. Gained 20-30 yards per club. Would recommend to not buy off shelf, go get fitted.
Love your reviews Andrew. You can be trusted with these fair reviews. Keep up with new content!
I appreciate your excellent,honest & realistic reviews.Reducing your swing speed to that of a typical club golfer is more valuable than getting the results of a young pro smashing the ball distances way beyond the capabilities of many oder club golfers.Many thanks for your interesting advice.
Thanks for the review. I picked up a lightly used set of 8 graphite shafted G410 irons (4-PW and UW) today for $400.
Sounds like you have bagged a bargain, enjoy the clubs.
Good review as always 👍🏾 I think the slightly more yardage gained came from the fact that the 410 spun abit less. Happy with my G400's think I'll be sticking with them.
Think your right on that one . Cheers Andrew
Great review. My preference would be the G400. The spin rate on the G410 is too low. It's astounding that the G410 is launching nearly 2 deg higher
So you mean the g400 will sit better quicker on the green than the g410?? That is more important than distance correct? Thx
@@brodygoalie id take stopping power on greens over minimal distance gains. Also many companies going with juiced lofts so folks can hit 9 iron 150 yards. This is useless imo. Leaves so many gaps.
Just bought the 400s at a good price. I'm not good enough to notice the performance difference but I do notice the price difference
Colin Ashmore how much
I did as well,nice $400 drop
LOVE my G400's.....hard to imagine they could get better. What would concern me is the drastically lower backspin rate on the 410's.
Hard to beat the G400, great club. Always a hard act for Ping to follow.
So the g 400 will sit better than the g 410?? That is very important correct?
Hi Andrew. Would like to see you hit a regular flex grafite vs senior soft regular flex in a 7 iron to see if you get better performance with one particular shaft flex. Thanks
Very helpful. Even watching the video I didn't like the sound the 410s were making. I'm a 14 and have G30s which make a great sound on contact. I played very little between 2015 and mid 2018 so lots of wear left. Kind of hoping the 400s drop a little more now that the 410s are out - would be a nice and reasonable upgrade.
Don't think there will be much change in the G400, however the G iron is being repositioned . Somewhere between £449-£499 for 7 irons.
I agree. The G400 sound better and IMP0 they feel better than the G410.
Good review Andrew. Well done. Both good irons. I tried some of the G 410 irons this week. Very nice clubs.
Thanks 👍
I honestly feel that the G400 were a better set. Better feel, and I think better looking. Can't say exactly what I didn't like about the G410s, they weren't bad clubs, but the G400 are really fantastic. The feel is softer and more solid.
Thanks for sharing!
G400 (and the G) feel better than G410 and G425. Something they changed in the design made the newer ones louder and more harsh.
Before making a decision try both clubs. If feel off the face is important I personally like the G400. The G410 club face feels really hard and had a weird sound.
Hi Rich, thanks for the comments.
It'd be awesome to see a video about a fitting process!!!
Great Review. Looking to switch out my G20s for either the 400 or 410, durability of the finish could be the decider so interested to hear your verdict on that one.
Nice vid very informative. Just picked up some 410’s myself.
Great clubs, you will not be disappointed.
Thanks for doing the comparison, at 70+, in the fall of 2017 moved to the 400s with graphite shafts (first Ping product after playing 50+ years), have recently looked at the i500s, and was interested in what the 410s offered. Very happy with the 400s, and after seeing your review, plan on staying with them in 2019. Definitely appreciate the info ! :)
Hi Gar, would stick with the G400's very good iron.Thanks for the comments and for watching. Cheers Andrew.
@@andrewainsworth497 Enjoy your videos, always on my "must watch" list !
Thank you Andrew I will try that
Your right knee movement is a great way to initiate the downswing correctly. The next time I am practicing my swing, I will try it and let you know how I got on. It is also a great way of keeping you relaxed and initiating the downswing correctly. Charles
A very good comparison and it seems clear that aesthetics apart, anyone with the G400 irons will not be disadvantaged by sticking with them for another season or two. Also the G400 irons would seem to be a shrewd purchase with a free custom fitting, assuming their retail price is now going to be reduced a little.
Apart from looks, apparently the 410s are nowhere near as nice to hit as the 400s.
Great review love the honesty
Cheers John, Got to keep things honest! All the best Andrew
Hi Andrew hoping to get fitted for the g400 shortly like your review
Good comparison. I agree with the looks, g410 edges it.
Thanks Freddy was close !! Both great irons.
Nice comparison; have the 400’s but the 410’s are definitely prettier & thinner...
Hi Bill, yes the G410's win the beauty contest but the G400 is a solid performer. All the best Andrew.
Lovely head to head Andrew. Would a g400 owner really spend all that more money to gain 5 extra yards of carry? I watched the chap on teeuplo this morning say the new irons felt worse than the new irons! In fact his said the whole new range of clubs from ping felt hard this year.I suppose you just have to test yourself really thanks. 😊
Hi, These reviews are very subjective, as you say the only real way is to try them yourself. Best regards Andrew.
Got the g400 5-GW online brand new for £485 now Andrew very tempted and graphite’s too
Great price, great clubs.. Best regards Andrew
Long-time watcher but don't comment much. My impression is the 410 is another "high launch - low spin" club but now I am really starting to look closely at the decent angles . The 410 decent angle is a degree or two steeper than the 400 so it should carry the distance with a bit of run out versus 400 shorter with more spin and a shallower angle of landing. The kind of courses and weather conditions you most frequently play in/on, as well as your preferred ball flight, would be key factors. I play a course with light wind and a majority of elevated greens. I prefer a high-launch low-spinning club as I find them a bit more consistent for carry and don't worry about the ball "ballooning" short. Could this be a blended set with 410 to 4 to 7-iron and 400 8 to PW? The sole thickness towards the toe on the 400 appears to me just a bit too wide when seen side by side. Just my opinion. Really like the videos...keep them coming.
Thanks for the great comments, all makes sense. Blending sets these days works really well. Best regards Andrew.
Just a quick question after watching your very good review, is it just looks alone that would push you to 410 over the 400 as I noticed u had 5 greens hit with 400 and 3 missed with 410 I myself would rather be putting rather than chipping.
Hi Chris, I think the missed greens were down to operator error rather than the club. I don't think there is mech in it performance wise. For me the G410 wins the beauty stakes. The G400 is repositioned on price and offers great value for money.
Best regards
Andrew
I will probably stick with my G400’s not enough difference to talk the wife into changing.
Makes sense Jeff, saves trying to convince your wife!! All the best Andrew.
As always great video. Not much in the differences-do you think Ping may have too many iron lines right now-iblades, pseries, i210 and now g's. Confusing for me.
Hi Allan, in comparison to previous years Ping have a wide choice of models, lots of choice for golfers of all ages, ability and handicap. Worth having a look at the web site to simplify how the range works. All the best Andrew
Great honest video
Thanks Larry, appreciate the comments.
I am perhaps a bit of an outlier here but, Andrew, what are your thoughts about how many generations of irons do I need to see before I upgrade? I have G clubs and now there are two subsequent upgrades. When I played i10 clubs the difference between them and the G's was stark but there had been 20 and 25 before the G so one might ask "what did you expect?"
Hi Ken, I would put G, G400, G410 as all slight improvers on each model. Its when you say compare a G25 to a G400 or G410, then you can see a big change in performance and numbers. The gains will vary depending on the skill and performance of the golfer using them.
Afternoon Andrew, how much I enjoyed the Ping G400 and G410 review. I noticed something in your downswing, you always initiate it with your right knee moving forward. Is this something you always do on purpose. Another great video.
Hi Charles, always done since I was a boy which is a long time ago!. In my coaching I like to see the lower and mid half starting the downswing movement. Thanks for watching.
You should alternate clubs to avoid fatigue skewing results. Difficult if you don’t have 2 shafts but otherwise little point.
Thanks for the advice. Best regards Andrew
Do bottom line the g400 will stop / stick better than the g 410s?? Please advise. Thanks
Hi , very little difference in performance.
Okay. Thank you for your response. Are you near the open championship this week? Cheers
@@brodygoalie about 2 hours away.
Have you had the opportunity to play that course? Will you be going there this weekend?
Best regards Mark
So Andrew. Bought on eBay a 7 iron g 30 senior flex. I also bought g 400 / 7 iron black dot senior flex so now I will go to my local golf store and see the numbers . So will hit all of these 7 irons and see if one sticks out and outperforms the other clubs. So my club I am using now which is g25 regular flex grafite against g30 and g400 in senior flex grafite black dot.
I will let you know when I am able to get this done. Should be interesting. Cheers.
Hey Andrew, currently playing an old set of i5, currently playing to a 9.5 index. I tested the G410s over the weekend and really liked them, but didn't hit the G400s. With how long it's been since I last purchased, would you opt for the newer model?
Hi Michael, G400 has been repositioned on price in the UK so is great value at around £550 for seven irons. The performance is fairly similar. I think the 410 is a better looking club and the wear on the G410 lasts longer than the 400.
Regards
Andrew
Just ordered my G410s from Ping today. Been playing the i10 since they came out new. I'm switching to regular flex now, so I'm curious to see how my game is. I'm hoping to get more hight on my irons.
Good luck with the new irons John, think you will find them more forgiving than your i10's. Keep me posted on how they work out. Best regards Andrew
@@andrewainsworth497 Will do. Thanks Andrew
@@andrewainsworth497 Hi Andrew, I finally managed to get out and play with the new G410s. I had only had one attempt before. I was really impressed with the distance. Im hitting these at least a club further than my I 10s...Im very happy with them. They are easy to hit. The only problem I had was on a hole I was set up for a draw and it went straight. I have to really work to move it left or right. I think going to a regular flex was the right step. I could feel the difference. Take care, John
Hi, how do these clubs compare with the i500 irons ?????
Hi John, the G410 and G400 are a larger head size and more forgiving than the i500. Best way is to go and have a fitting and try them Best regards Andrew
Hi Andrew I play I 25s do you think they are better or worse then the G400s
Hi Jim, only way is to go and hit the G400 in comparison to your existing clubs.
Good review. I have the 400s and hit them well except when the ground is hard and there is no grass under the ball, like it has been this summer when the fairways became burnt. I have dropped from 17 to 13 in 2018 so was thinking of trying i500 to see if it was any better. I will give the 410s a try along with the Mizuno Hot Metal pro.
All great irons you mention, Hot Metal Pro looks great. Thanks for watching.
just bought a set of g400 graphites 4-u wedge 8 clubs $685.00 plus tax from dicks. can't wait to play them friday
Hi Jeff,
You will love the performance of these clubs, very good indeed.
Thanks for watching.
Andrew
In all your videos in which you compare/test irons, the smash factor is always the same. If I look at the videos of some other UA-camrs the smash factor varies. What do you think is the reason?
PS: Great video.
Hi Benjamin, my GC2 does not have HMT(Head Measurement Technology) so the smash factor is always the same. To be honest smash factor is not a number which I feel is relevant to the vast majority of golfers. All the best Andrew
my 2013 anser look like new
change if you need new grips haha