I can see how they might be ok in a duel/1v1 once you get the hang of them, but for backstabbing with the Ambusher I'll still be using my trusty dagger with it's 150 damage special attack.
I agree with your analysis. They definitely require playing differently. I find most 1v1s, other players haven't played against skilled katar players yet, but once they learn, it might be even more difficult. They can be so frustrating when you play everything correctly and them miss your strikes due to range. But are SO satisfying when you get kills with them.
Great for duels. Group jobs? Forget it, Might as well not have a block option. Stagger should have a 25% to pop just to offer these things viability against more than one target, otherwise you'll be locked in to single or smaller scale fights. You can however use these as pure backstabbers, use team mates to position yourself properly and use them like you would a spear.. but at point blank.
First time trying the Katars I thought it was by far the WORST weapon in Chivalry 2 but after countless hours of practice and deep dive looks into its speed and abilities I can easily say the Katars are the BEST weapon in Chivalry 2 for 1v1s! Me and my Spartans had a bunch of fun sneaking around and taking out archers from behind and completely overwhelming players with headbutts and double stabs! The Katar has a steep learning curve but I am confident you guys will grow to love them as much as I do now.
I love/hate using these things, but I do enjoy running around like a little rat around the map annoying people with my flanks, and then retreating back to my teammates and doing it all over again
Katar still sucks, the only thing it's good for is 1 vs 1. And how many times in a normal 64 player match do you have opportunities for 1 vs 1? Most of the time, however, you fight in groups or 1 vs a few people
they're good for 1v1 until you play someone who understands what spacing is, then you punch yourself in the face for trying to learn how to play chess when everyone else is playing checkers
I play on ps4 and see that my sprint attack usually clips people, like weapon goes into them at end of animation but it sometimes misses. Is it just me or does it have a little wacky problem with that. Love that it can launch players if you kill them with it tho sorta hard to get happen. Other than that if im gonna sprint at someone at full speed i usually do a jump then the special double jab attack. So that way the speed of the sprint can be transferred rather than the snail pace double jab it feels for me. Bit harder to do but so far ive gotten a good few kills from it. Definitely a learning curve and im gonna learn these things
The katars clipping through people for you is most likely because of the weapon length and the other players ping compared to you. Longer weapons are a lot more forgiving if you or the other player have high ping. The sprinting slash is definitely better at landing a hit and draining stamina to start off a fight if you are already running and they are looking at you. Just don’t expect to be killing anything with it.
@@SpartanIsGaming ah that probably explains the missing part. I usually like to only do the sprint attack when behind low heath enemies. However ill start trying to use it as a opener now and see how it goes. Thank you for your input, have a good day :)
@@SpartanIsGaming My good man, what stun locks are we talking about when only the special ( not running ) attack is the only one that interupts your enemy attack ? You mean to tell me this meme weapon that has low damage, poor reach, doesn't stun in most moves, small hitbox will be better then the one handed sword or rapier or spears ? I bet a good player like you had fun recking noobs with it while distracted by other enemies, but I dont see pro players dueling in competitive with it any time soon. I hardly ever see the weapon at all. It's a meme weapon, that's it. I have no idea why this genius developer wastes time with this and horses.
Have you watched the full video? The katars can stunlock through specials, headbutts, and kicks. But what makes it unique is that you can double stab headbutt or kick then go right back into a special over and over again against someone without giving them a chance to do anything. I went to a few duel servers and met the tournament champion called Captain Agatha and he was stunlocking every high level player on the server and said he was going to use the katars for the next cash prize tourney. The katars are terrible for big team battles especially with cavalry but in duels it is the new best weapon with high level players. Takes a lot of time to learn how to use the katars properly but you can do some insane combos in duels once you have learned the katars.
Yeah, its weird how the dude argues like this is going to replace stuff like the messer or longsword as the best 1V1 weapon. Sure, I bet he can kill some noobs from the back in team objective, but this weapon is trash.
I can see how they might be ok in a duel/1v1 once you get the hang of them, but for backstabbing with the Ambusher I'll still be using my trusty dagger with it's 150 damage special attack.
its literally the worst weapon lol
I agree with your analysis. They definitely require playing differently. I find most 1v1s, other players haven't played against skilled katar players yet, but once they learn, it might be even more difficult. They can be so frustrating when you play everything correctly and them miss your strikes due to range. But are SO satisfying when you get kills with them.
Great for duels. Group jobs? Forget it, Might as well not have a block option.
Stagger should have a 25% to pop just to offer these things viability against more than one target, otherwise you'll be locked in to single or smaller scale fights.
You can however use these as pure backstabbers, use team mates to position yourself properly and use them like you would a spear.. but at point blank.
First time trying the Katars I thought it was by far the WORST weapon in Chivalry 2 but after countless hours of practice and deep dive looks into its speed and abilities I can easily say the Katars are the BEST weapon in Chivalry 2 for 1v1s!
Me and my Spartans had a bunch of fun sneaking around and taking out archers from behind and completely overwhelming players with headbutts and double stabs! The Katar has a steep learning curve but I am confident you guys will grow to love them as much as I do now.
Just starting Katars tonight, thank you for the vid.
Btw, how did you headbutt?? Thats awesome
@@Qbop headbutt is the jab for the katars
Meet the Katar: The new Best Weapon for 1v1's in Chivalry 2!
What do you guys think of the Katars?
I love/hate using these things, but I do enjoy running around like a little rat around the map annoying people with my flanks, and then retreating back to my teammates and doing it all over again
If anyone wants to see the Full Katar Notes from my tests or any other weapon stats they are all in the Discord - discord.gg/qZdzxbwr3e
Katar still sucks, the only thing it's good for is 1 vs 1. And how many times in a normal 64 player match do you have opportunities for 1 vs 1? Most of the time, however, you fight in groups or 1 vs a few people
they're good for 1v1 until you play someone who understands what spacing is, then you punch yourself in the face for trying to learn how to play chess when everyone else is playing checkers
I've been killed by you so many times! Nice seeing you, this is a sweet guide much appreciated. Haven't had the patience to test these myself
Ima try the double guitars after watching ur video.
They need a counter to the special cause this weapon seems to have a advantage in mechanics
Actually katars is the weapon of ancient India and iam form India ❤️
Insane speed
Good vid. Have they made defense any more engaging?
Looks OP
Wait they’re faster than the rapier??
Yes Katars are much faster than the rapier and actually completely counter the rapier.
@@SpartanIsGaming wow
did the katars get nerfed now it seems that the special attack don't pierce anymore ?
What is the key to headbutt while using katars?
It’s jab, I think r?
Literally just got out of a game getting my ass handed to me by AxitzRevenge lol what are the chances!
Sounds like a cool guy
Nice
What ranking do you give the Highland Sword since it's nerf? It just seems like a slower Greatsword now.
I’d still say 13th place is about where it should be.
I play on ps4 and see that my sprint attack usually clips people, like weapon goes into them at end of animation but it sometimes misses. Is it just me or does it have a little wacky problem with that. Love that it can launch players if you kill them with it tho sorta hard to get happen. Other than that if im gonna sprint at someone at full speed i usually do a jump then the special double jab attack. So that way the speed of the sprint can be transferred rather than the snail pace double jab it feels for me. Bit harder to do but so far ive gotten a good few kills from it. Definitely a learning curve and im gonna learn these things
The katars clipping through people for you is most likely because of the weapon length and the other players ping compared to you. Longer weapons are a lot more forgiving if you or the other player have high ping.
The sprinting slash is definitely better at landing a hit and draining stamina to start off a fight if you are already running and they are looking at you. Just don’t expect to be killing anything with it.
@@SpartanIsGaming ah that probably explains the missing part. I usually like to only do the sprint attack when behind low heath enemies. However ill start trying to use it as a opener now and see how it goes. Thank you for your input, have a good day :)
@@zinoneus3733 You're Welcome
When is a new episode of life of a hoplite?
Currently working on finishing the letsplay completely then I'll be able to edit and upload videos.
@@SpartanIsGaming can't wait👍👍
How in the heck did you do that headbutt?!
When you use the Katars you headbutt instead of jab
I don’t see them in my loadouts
iam theSenate
Step 1
Play pc
Step 2
There is no Step 2 play pc, shit on console
New best ? Come on dude. The cudgel is better then this.
Lmao, throwing rock is better than the cudgel
The Katar takes time to get used to. With its speed and variety of stun locks it is the new best 1v1 weapon in the game.
@@SpartanIsGaming Sure dude.
@@SpartanIsGaming My good man, what stun locks are we talking about when only the special ( not running ) attack is the only one that interupts your enemy attack ? You mean to tell me this meme weapon that has low damage, poor reach, doesn't stun in most moves, small hitbox will be better then the one handed sword or rapier or spears ? I bet a good player like you had fun recking noobs with it while distracted by other enemies, but I dont see pro players dueling in competitive with it any time soon. I hardly ever see the weapon at all.
It's a meme weapon, that's it. I have no idea why this genius developer wastes time with this and horses.
Have you watched the full video? The katars can stunlock through specials, headbutts, and kicks. But what makes it unique is that you can double stab headbutt or kick then go right back into a special over and over again against someone without giving them a chance to do anything. I went to a few duel servers and met the tournament champion called Captain Agatha and he was stunlocking every high level player on the server and said he was going to use the katars for the next cash prize tourney.
The katars are terrible for big team battles especially with cavalry but in duels it is the new best weapon with high level players. Takes a lot of time to learn how to use the katars properly but you can do some insane combos in duels once you have learned the katars.
This weapon is a cheat!
Wow Chivalry copied Voldo!!!
Just show 64 player gameplay so we can see how trash they are
Yeah, its weird how the dude argues like this is going to replace stuff like the messer or longsword as the best 1V1 weapon. Sure, I bet he can kill some noobs from the back in team objective, but this weapon is trash.
Katars are the best weapons in Chivalry 🤡
ummm no
How do you do those weapon spins
Dance emote or middle button on mouse
How do u headbutt
Jab while you have katars equipped and you’ll headbutt instead
@@SpartanIsGaming how do you jab lol
@@conormcnagger4703 on Controller its r3