The Dark Side of Pablo Picasso
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Although Picasso never visited Africa, his interest in its art is well documented, from his discovery of African masks at a museum Paris in June 1907. He became an avid collector of African art. Here’s the interesting twist. It is public information and well documented that in 1920, Pablo Picasso said of African art, "L'art nègre? Connais pas." This translates in English to "African art? Never heard of it!" This was a bold denial, not only of African influence but of the very existence of African art.
This was very ironic for a man who was later found with a collection of African art. Some analysts say that regardless of what you think of Pablo Picasso, whether you like his art or not, it's hard to deny that he is perhaps one of the most influential, most prolific and most important artists of the past 100 years.
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African influence on Picasso's art IS widely aknowledge by anybody who is serious about art in general and Picasso in particular. He himself, may have downplayed this influence, but it is no secret for anybody who is into art.
@@serpentlaw5961 i don't know why your comment was in reply to mine:
I never said that Picasso was a racists.
Even its official website though, concedes that he minimized being influenced by African art, for whatever reason: this doesn't make him a racist, but, if true, just somebody not acknowledging his influences and not paying his due.
@@serpentlaw5961 i am not sure what you mean by Latin. Latin is an ancient language, not a people. He was Spanish and the Spanish language, like Italian, Portuguese, French and others, are Romance languages which means they are rooted in ancient Latin.
Anyway, i somehow see your point, we can move on. Have a great evening.
Well said @Musa.. Picasso's startling indebtedness to African masks and sculpture is obvious. If he had only acknowledged it, his story would have been without blemish
@@serpentlaw5961 ooh ooh slow down or just shut up. What do you mean "all their problems "? What problems do we Africans have? How much of Africa do you know rather than the fake news from the biased western media? We'll criticise n expose all the deceit from the west
Whenever African artifacts are stolen or repurposed by Europeans (evidence abounds for this in history), here comes controversy. Given the Moorish and African roots of some Europeans, their African souls tend to reveal themselves in peculiar ways. Picasso is obviously no exception.
Africans created everything they stole. Then they try to act like its their own invention lol. I don't think they are capable of being as inventive, innovative and creative as us. The Moors even brought classical music to them...
Interesting @Gregory..
Down with Colonialism and its impacts on Africa, Asia, and Americas.
Down with Colonialism! Indeed, what was called development of colonies was a cynical shorthand expression for the intensified colonial exploitation to develop imperialist Europe
I got chewed out by a grade school art teacher when I noticed the similarities between his "work" and the masks on our walls.
I brought some in for "show and tell" she just ignored the facts after that
Good for you @Drega001 😀 That's a great way to start exposing the injustices
Been watching this channel for a few months now, thanks for covering such interesting and important issues of Africa. Most of your content was never mentioned once in in my education in the USA school system
The American school system fail all of us. Why do you think they are fighting so hard against CRT. Its time we decolonize ourselves and see the world through our own lenses
Happy to hear you've been getting a lot of value @Nate Cheers😀
Makes perfect sense @J P Many thanks
French had a program in the eighties about the influence of African art in Europe!! They had a part where they said Picasso was a failure artists, then went to France and locked himself in the French Musium who have one of largest African art facts. The program stated "the genus fake Picasso was reborn"" No shame at all!!!
True @Gina.. Far from being considered artworks, African artforms were considered artifacts of colonial conquests and held little to no economic value. I believe this is where the term primitivism came from. But during the early 1900s with Picasso leading the way, African art aesthetics became a source of profound inspiration for the School of Paris, which had been searching for new and radical ways of representation.
@RisenAfrica pls consider the topic of cuban music being one of the worst and perhaps amongst the biggest examples of western appropriation of african culture,as it represents the global contemporary musical billionaire industry.
I'll be glad to show you great evidence and help you make another great claim on western cultural thievery,thank u.
You always deliver gems. I recall going over cubism art form at my university in the US; particularly they attributed it all to Picasso. They never mentioned any connection to Africa.
Those european structures and buildings were actually build by the Moors who were Black.
They were the ones who civilised white people who were going through black plaque.
The Moors even taught white people how to have a bath with soap. Even tried to teach them how to be a decent people and how to be civilised.
Many inventions were stolen from Foundation Black Americans during slavery.
This is why it's important to know who we really are.
One of my favourite quotes is ,"Knowing my REAL HISTORY is knowing MY TRUE SELF and taking TRUE POWER".
History is written by the victors of war. It's the reason why european colonisers were able to capture the minds of many Africans. They destroyed anything that they can, stole some, hid some and rewrote some in order to disconnect us from our ancestors.
Many people have no idea why so many are brainwashed and conditioned by man-made religions like christianity.
ALL the stories in the bible are Black history mixed with lies, spells and hidden spells. Our enemies know who we are so much better than ourselves.
It's the reason why they are always in our business. As they are scared of many Black people learning the truth of who we are. But, it's inevitable so the Black people who are still asleep better start reconnecting with our ancestors and roots. An open mind, complete mindset change and be willing to unlearn the lies and relearn the truth. Each person needs to make a choice to make either to prepare as we are at war.
The moors only invaded Spain (and some of France) though. They didn't make it all
yeah Wakanda is truly a superpower too, everybody knows it
@@saintpinewood562 because it is! Afrikans did invade la andulas, the Iberian peninsula, i.e., spain and did bring civilization to thosr europeans! Europe did experience through several dark ages..that ergotism in europe was no joke!!
>Those european structures and buildings were actually build by the Moors who were Black.
This is baseless nonsense. Like what "european structures and buildings" are you even talking about?
>Many inventions were stolen from Foundation Black Americans during slavery.
This is a lie repeated by numbskull black nationalists in the U.S..
Frankly it is getting tedious listening to people trying to take credit for EVERYTHING invented, but apparently are too "busy" to invent anything today other than new forms of complaining.
@@leobvenzen8565 So now the Arabs are now "Africans"?
Funny, in other videos, you clowns say that Arabs were invaders that took over the "black African" Egyptian territory.
Thank you for bringing Picasso's huge debt to African art to our attention. The outrageous hoarding of looted African artefacts is an ongoing scandal! I saw the Picasso and Africa exhibition in Cape Town and thought it was stunning and helpful in understanding the influence of African art not only for Picasso, but for much of modernist painting.
Our pleasure! Many thanks @Barbara.. Cheers!
This channel is amazing, I'm constantly learning new things everytime I watch a video. Keep up the good work.
This is unbelievable. Am a Kenyan artist both in painting and sculpture. I've never accepted Picasso as anywhere close to a great artist as they portray him n very happy that it's now confirmed. Any painter who cannot do realism like a commissioned portrait is just but a fraud. They hide under abstracts in which it's difficult in the real sense to draw a line between a professional and an amateur. He doesn't even have the flow of colours in his pieces. How could they equate him to genius Da vinci.? This is basically an insult to art geniuses like Michael Angelo. Thanks for this eye opening video.
Your point about abstract art making it difficult to differentiate between professional and amateur is so accurate. I've also never been partial to Picasso's work. The original African pieces, however: breathtaking.
Picasso mastered figurative painting and then moved on to explore more abstract territories.
We should know somebody's work thoroughly, before judging him or her.
@@musamusashi yes indeed he excellently mastered copying
@@musamusashi he was once commissioned by a wealthy lady to paint a portrait of her which he miserably failed
@@alanmunyi8343he didn't fail, he took time and came up with a portrait that was considered revolutionary for the time and the lady who commissioned, one of the main art merchants in Paris at the time, took great pride in it. Anyway, i have no interest in defending Picasso, so if you feel he sucks, you are surely entitled to your opinion. At this point i would be curious to see YOUR art though.
The Picasso museum in Spain was the most underwhelming experience of my life. His depression came from knowing that he was a fraud. Let’s not pretend that his rise to fame was not due to a certain societal thing called peer pressure. His art sucked.
Had he given credit where its due, there would be no debate about him as an artist
I understand how you feel
But it'd probably too much to say Picasso art sucked because it never really did
@@RisenAfricayes there would be many doubts about him unless we call abstract sh*t creaters as real artists. What they do is so lame and easy I will never understand it. I am a painter and tattoo artist that mainly does realism so I can say that
being influeneed by other art forms is what we do, there is a difference between being influenced and inspired to show, create a bvring something new to the table, or reveal old art in a new light thus opening a door for others to see what is out there and venture forth on a new road of artistic discovery. There are those who steal or plagiarize others works and I know one I can mention today who says he does just that... I won't though. Also the time period.. during Picassos days, ALL the artists were venturing out of the old Atelier style of learning.. by the 20th century, all the artists were trying and being influenced by ALL forms of art old and new... Picasso just showed the world what it had been missing and opened the door so others could see and venture there... Today many artists do steal or plagiarize others work... yet most are simply copying art styles because its easier to copy than have the courage to really go down the rabbit hole and create... Cubism is a reflection of Monet. His work went to cubism long before Picasso did it.. influenced, inspired.. its what we do.. I am not a big fan of Picasso, however I can say this.. he didnt have to steal a damn thing from anyone!!!
Wonderful video! I had no idea!
My pleasure @Kisaruni😀 Many thanks
What goes around, comes around!
Enormous thanks for this video. It was something subconsciously sitting in me, which I could not catch consciously, but always was feeling. I am freed from one of my headaches now. Picasso took a very monumental, strong basis, exactly it made his pieces strong, not variations invented by him.
Wonderful! You're so welcome!
PP may be the most "influential..." european artist, however, he is not the most "influencial..." artist! Let's qualify that please! Asante sana for this upload!
@@serpentlaw5961 yes! He was!
@@serpentlaw5961 Yes, he was! You obviously do not understand racism, what it is and how it functions! Hint, 2. it is not a feeling; and 2. Picasso benefitted from racism! All europeans did and do!
Interesting that Picasso was an art thief, but nobody ever cared about stealing a Picasso.
Superb work!
Thank you! Cheers!
Cheers bro❤
Something similar is said of Gauguin. Perhaps a video exploring his 'inspiration' from African art in the future.
Great idea @Musty Bryce.. Definitely will.
@@RisenAfrica Very interesting video.. and your new logo is stunning. The old one was also stunning. Why change?
"Picasso and Braques both owned african carvings but they had no anthropological interest in them at all. They didn't care about their ritual uses, they knew nothing about their original tribal meanings, or about the societies out of which they came. They simply used them formally, and in that way, cubism was like a small parody of the imperial model. The masks were simply raw material from the darkest Congo, like copper or palm oil, and Picasso's use of them was in effect, a kind of cultural plunder."
Robert Hughes; The Shock of the New; Episode One; 1980
Here we go again. Surely, one day last will be first and a change gonna come! Great information !
Bill Cosby pointed out very topic from the 1970's
We schould not accuse Picazzo for admireing and loving Africa. There are many of us who love both Africa and Picazzo, Aand.... remember... we are all african ...❤ ❤❤
Good point!
IM DOING MY MASTERS DISSERTATION ON THIS TOPIC!!
Wow! I had fun working on this one.. All the very best @silver BLUE
Picasso is vastly overrated and I believe that he was a shrewd and astute con man. There is a lot of evidence that the his first paintings, which were very fine, were actually done by his father and Picasso simply pretended that they were his. If this is true then it destroys the widely accepted idea that Picasso was able to paint very finely (as shown in his very early paintings) but chose not to. If we accept the idea that Picasso never painted his early paintings, then we are left with the reality that Picasso was only able to paint rough paintings throughout his life.
The real traduction is "n-word's art ? Never heard of it."
Yeah
Great video.
It's a consistent feature with MRH - simple.
Now if we go around all the "greats" regardless of discipline, we'll find the exact same pattern.
Great point @bba
Lol they were dead for milenia .
No coments.
There are some similarities but this way overstates the case.
I understand the charge of plagiarism in visual arts is one fraught with challenges. Does the artist who sits down to make a painting of the Notre Dame commit plagiarism, by robbing the idea of the original architect? However, throughout his career Picasso copied from other people's ideas, as acknowledged by experts such as John Berger, the influential British art critic. He stole from Vincent van Gogh and Jean Ingres, Poussin and his fellow Cubists, to the extent that their work was often indistinguishable.
Reminds me of black panter robbery secene
Exactly @El Er Me too
taking inspiration from african art is not stealing art.
They're the best thieves around..give them that
❤ Picasso was African, North African Berber. One his parent , hus mother was black . The father was a Spaniard. He was leaving a message behind for future generations. Picasso was rebelling against western civilisation.
Those African masks in picasso paintings was his black identity. That is when he became conscious diaspora. His name Picasso means the cunning and wise spider. In African traditional folklore, the spider is regarded as the wisest and most cunning person. Picasso name is African. Mendes Trube. .
@@andylumehriverofliferev.2254 This explain a lot to me about PICAZZO, his temper, and his sometimes round, hard, " pepper" eyes. I think of him as the paniter that can illustrait a picture we can analyse and find exactly what He is telling us about a persons feelings and personality. I think to understand the expression in the pictture you must learn to seek in the " telling" The Child drawings are full of symbols and love to his children and to all of us. We must think of him as a human being, not as a hero or god. I am so glad that Picazzo came to earth ! !
Right before Christmus In 1991 i saw in a Dream 1-2 -3 Black profilen long african looking masks falling down in silence one after another behind a wiindow. Nothing else. This was so strange to me a Norwegians girl . A month later mye mom caught canser and died a half year later. ... I have Asked many african about this masks, but no one could tell. But then i saw the painting of Picazzos profiled mask, there it was! This must be Jungs collective common memory telling. But i have met a Picazzo look alike first on a train to Åndalsnes in Norway right opposite me smiling and as flirting schowing me himself. Later in Molde in the main street with the same temting smile. Bouth times i could only glanse and stear, because it was Picazzo! We stood together at the corner and i could only stear !! Many years later i saw him in Molde walkeing with a fear heared woman in and out of cafe Kneipen. He was also an older man... This must be a relative of him, Just like him, not looking as his known sons.
@@andylumehriverofliferev.2254 In mye familie some 150-200 years ago in Kristiansund in Norway there wehre craftsmen, salesman of the dried fisch they sailed to Spains harbours... Many times i have looked at Picazzos daughter Paloma.. and the drawings of the woman with the Black pimpel on right eyebrow and left side of the nose, Just like me 🫠 Picazzos father had the same long face as mye relatives called Ohrvik in KristiansUnd, We have had some clever painters in the family here. Think of , think of.... if i have some conection with " my dear Picazzo " ( i am not the only one to wisch that 🥰 i guess )
But as i am writing this storry, i must think of my grandmothers sisters and brothers , tey all looked like Spanisch! They were 16 all together ! Maybe the storry is another way around ! Now i must have a cop of cofy to clear the thoughts.. 🤠😎🥰
Life magazine did one of their holiday double issues (Christmas /New Years) on Piccaso, around 1962-3 I think.
There were several photos of Piccaso with different pieces of his African art, masks and sculpture. The interview had several mentions of the art, it's influence upon him and how he was attracted to the primal nature of its beauty.
Of course you are talking about a time when African American entertainers and musicians like Josie Brown among others were migrating to Paris where they and their art was celebrated not segregated.
So to claim that Picasso was a racist thief is (I'll say) less than accurate.
Agreed. However, Picasso refused to give credit where it was due. An acknowledgement that he drew inspiration from Africa would have put the debate to rest. In fact, far from being considered artworks, African pieces of art were considered artifacts of colonial conquests and held little to no economic value. I believe they called it primitivism. But during the early 1900s with Picasso leading the way, African art aesthetics became a source of profound inspiration for the School of Paris, which had been searching for new and radical ways of representation.
I call him picazzo because he was a famous diq!
lol 😂
You are wrong, Wrong is BS. Picasso said: Quote. Everyone was born an Artist, and when they had grown up, they had forgotten. How do you explain that?
I don't know what you're on about, everyone acknowledges the influence of African art on Picasso.
Picasso he’s a liar
so many lost treasures, copywrite infringement
This is so wild, i cant even 😭 😂😂
Yeah, the founder of cubism 🙄 😒 😑
Artist don't steal. Africain Art
Picasso make Africain art to be come Africain great also Africa to become
Great continant an evry one can see that that Picasso as artist use Africain Art to make is art like every artist will do definitely is not what they say.is not truth picasso use Africain art as model.an work onit more is only political aspects
My respect for Picasso: 📉📉📉
My respect for the African Artists he ripped off: 📈📈📈
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I hope more people come across this video and have the same takeaway
@@JP-br4mx Most people are not idiots. So they wont.
@@WillmobilePlus oh you kitchen ant
@@JP-br4mx Oh how cutting. I guess in Cameroon that's supposed to be witty?
@@WillmobilePlus it’s a saying to describe someone like you. People who click on videos like this knowing what’s it’s going to be about, watch it and comment dumb thing without really engaging with the ideas presented
first of all,art is not national or continental. it is UNIVERSAL.
second, any artist can be inspired by anything and that does not mean steal.
according to your analogy ,will you blame an artist who express feelings and make contemporary art?
probably your answer will be: artist steals or copies feelings of himself 😂😂😂
it is true that in 19 and 20 century not only africa but other continents values or culture are stolen. plus perhaps the worst one was slavery. people from africa were victims of slavery.
but in 21. century instead of complaining about these facts and blaming the people from their past, you can or you guys can work for not to repeat these things again. otherwise this analogy is meaningless and childish.
personally, i dont see any difference from old times. africa no development nor peace.
it is same chaotic and poor continent.
and picasso was a real deal. instead of your video than man was working with two dimension converting it to the three dimension.
plus he is also inspired by cezanne. picasso also
admits. but you will get that he stole cezannes technique 😂😂😂
oh boyy
He culturally appropriated from many, was misogynistic and demeaning to women, he had a manical ego and a flare for the dramatic. Truly no one I want anything to do with. I never liked his art and yet I adore African art. African art has soul and life. Picasso's work is lifeless imitation.
Picasso is an horrible artist anyways, he brought post-modernism into art and destroyed the rationality and scientific nature of art. Why would you wanna own his work?
Yeah. Good artists copy, great artists steal.
Artists have more than one influence and inspiration.
Picasso had more than one art period.
Art is more than just aesthetics too.
Agreed. However, Picasso refused to give credit where it was due. In fact, far from being considered artworks, African pieces of art were considered artifacts of colonial conquests and held little to no economic value. I believe they called it primitivism. But during the early 1900s with Picasso leading the way, African art aesthetics became a source of profound inspiration for the School of Paris, which had been searching for new and radical ways of representation.
Please include references in your videos. You say many things like "some analysts say....", "Some academic artists..", etc... But you never provide any references
BTW, very interesting video.. and your new logo is stunning. The old one was also stunning. Why change?
Great idea @Jon S. I'm planning to make all information sources available in the Patreon page
Happy to hear.. Received numerous complaints that the old logo had a circle that symbolized Eye of Horus or something which made them not watch our videos. Was a hard decision to change it but after a while, since apparently it was denying the channel potential views, it had to go
@@RisenAfrica First of all, the new logo is so well imagined that it has enhaned your brand. And I see you're quite concerned about viewership and subscription volume. I happen to have a way to get you thousands more through website promotions. I'll include some text from your video script and they can "click to learn more" linking to your UA-cam Video on the subject or Patreon alternative. Something like that. I think you're doing a great job making these very educative videos on Africa. The rest of us who cannot make videos can at least support in other ways other than financial contributions on Patreon. I hope you don't mind
@@jon_s This means a lot brother! Please go ahead. Also, pls share your website link, happy to see how you'll integrate
It would be nice to see more substantial sources. You intended to portray Picasso as a hypocrite when he said “black art? never heard of it.”, but what’s the context? Why did he say this when he own African art, it doesn’t make sense and I would have loved context to explain this inconsistency. Also it’s not like taking inspiration is a heinous crime, what’s so bad about Picasso taking inspiration from an art style he admired? Are we going to shame the renaissance for “stealing the culture and artistic traditions of Greeks”?That would be ridiculous. Picasso didn’t steal, he innovated; He showed Europe something new with his talent and creativity to think outside the box. And it also would be nice to see a time line of his works compared to African works. Did he start to change his style after seeing african art? or was he already experimenting with surrealism when he saw african art and got new inspiration for his emerging style. Honestly, this is just lazy journalism
Yes, it does! Today, europeans have thousands of Afrikan artifacts in their museums and still spread the lie that Afrika had no civilization, etc. , and that Afrikans do not know how to take care of their artworks and artifacts. They know the ancient Kmtyw were Afrikans, but yet they still claim they were not Afrikans! Many of the tombs were blasted by europeans, robbed and plundered, yet Afruka never produced any culture, math, science! So, yes it makes plenty of sense, PP was one of many europeans that copied Afrikans and yet denied that Afrika was their teacher!
@@leobvenzen8565
>and still spread the lie that Afrika had no civilization, etc.
Another baseless load of nonsense, peppered with a bunch of mythology that Europeans supposedly stole all of this secret knowledge from "Afikans", that none of you seem to be able to produce any evidence even existed.
What’s so bad about all of this when you colonisé a continent, steal its children away into slavery, treat them like dirt, create social cast and put them at the bottom of it, put them into zoos, and do atrocities against them. Then, turn your attention to the motherland and stole its resources at the same time looking down on said people. All of these pieces that Picasso took inspo from were not acquired in fair or legal manners. On top of that it’s years and years of stealing from said people and give them no credits. I don’t know if you have ever heard of cultural appropriation but it’s that. When a dominant culture steal from a marginalized group. There’s a difference between appreciation and appropriation and it’s this case it’s straight up theft
@@JP-br4mx Ok, first off, Picasso never colonized a continent, and he never stole children into slavery. In fact, almost no one did since children don’t make good slaves. Tangent, but slaves weren’t stolen by Europeans from Africa, they were captured by African nations as prisoners of war from other African nations. At least that was for the most part, the story did start to shift once Europeans switched their focus from America to Africa, but by the time that was happening slavery was largely illegal in much of Europe (In fact France was one of the first in modern history to outlaw slavery). Also, it’s rather childish to say that because Africa had been colonized then no one is allowed to appreciate its culture. Honestly your “holier than thou” rhetoric is downright exhausting. Can’t you just appreciate good art without trying to dismantle someone’s life’s work? How pathetic
His art isnt beautifull
😂😂
I think it’s a bit harsh to say Picasso stole African Art, but he was no doubt inspired by it. And these influences were obviously never got the same admiration he did. That’s a shame
What is the basis of your argument? The presenter clearly gives good research. Picasso plagiarised Afrikan art and failed to acknowledge. That is theft!
@@afrofeast What argument? I agree with the video. I just think the term “stealing” is a bit harsh, since it denies Picasso’s own creative efforts.
The comparison at 9:44 is a good example. You can clearly see the mask’s influence on the art style of the picture. The inspiration is undeniable. But you would also be lying if you said the mask and the picture are the same. A transformation clearly took place.
@@mrcead What you’re describing is called “cultural appropriation”.
@@DiskusGames Picasso never acknowledged. Infact he denied he knew about Afrikan art yet he had several collections. In the creative world, if you plagiarise another person's idea and commercialise it you're 'creativity' isnt recognised. If he were living today he would be bombarded w litigation.
@@afrofeast Yeah, that was quite shitty of him to deny his inspirations.
I dont think AFRICAN ART MADE PICASSO.! But i do think HE brought AFRICAN ART TO THE WORLD.!
What? Excuse me you can’t downplay a group of people who made this before him therefore, he took something that was not his. Picasso didn’t even have the dignity to acknowledge the people that inspired his paintings, lets me know you wasn’t listening because he colonize benefited off the backs of Africans. Once again, you must be white because that was a stupid ass statement.
@@TokyoCaliLove I said He as MAN,brought African art to the west,Where did I say He stole from Africans or be little them! Don't be to Woke,Make time to smell the roses And be grateful YOU live in the west.