When did the Middle East begin to Fall Apart? | History of the Middle East 1800-1820 - 5/21

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  • @JabzyJoe
    @JabzyJoe  10 місяців тому +23

    Part 4 - ua-cam.com/video/IcSv2OSR0N0/v-deo.html

    • @death-istic9586
      @death-istic9586 10 місяців тому

      Hi.

    • @shzarmai
      @shzarmai 10 місяців тому +1

      Hi there, please include your sources in your videos

    • @shzarmai
      @shzarmai 10 місяців тому +1

      please put sources in the videoes you make if possible

    • @susanthejew6351
      @susanthejew6351 10 місяців тому

      for the middle east to fall apart it had to be a prosperous place where conflict was something of the past... this never ever happened in the middle east it's always has and will be a shithole inhabited by sand apes who look like humans but act like animals
      from 600AD and onward it's been the retarded cousin we all wish would die already because he's embaricing to the rest of the fam :) sorry not sorry

    • @NoHandles333
      @NoHandles333 10 місяців тому

      Please make a playlist for the Middle East series of videos.

  • @justinianthegreat1444
    @justinianthegreat1444 10 місяців тому +115

    Ottoman politics is so reminiscent of Byzantine politics without the Generals proclaiming themselves as Emperors

    • @عليياسر-ذ5ب
      @عليياسر-ذ5ب 10 місяців тому +8

      Romans: No

    • @shzarmai
      @shzarmai 10 місяців тому +3

      that's very fitting lol 😂

    • @AmritDillon
      @AmritDillon 10 місяців тому

      ​@@عليياسر-ذ5بbyzantines are Romans

    • @liphardusmagus5970
      @liphardusmagus5970 10 місяців тому +5

      Well they tried to claim the title of roman emperor so it is kinda fitting

    • @Critt_Ari
      @Critt_Ari 8 місяців тому +6

      they ruled to the same land and, with some exceptions, to the same people in the end. furthermore, their governing mechanisms when they shifted from the murad the hudavendigar's "Ottoman State" to Mehmed the conqueror's "Ottoman Empire" were mostly reformed from the old systems of Murad to Mehmed's new systems which he based them on the byzantine and simply the roman system of governance as he believed this kind of system would be a need for an empire that would strech over 3 continents.

  • @lipingrahman6648
    @lipingrahman6648 10 місяців тому +45

    The Ottoman Empire at this point was like a rotten tooth. Falling apart but standing and causing much pain. That it survived to be destroyed in WWI is nothing short of a miracle.

    • @theArab__
      @theArab__ 10 місяців тому +1

      More then a miracle it’s because European powers deliberately acted to keep it together, as its weak authority benefitted European ambitions in the area, if it had collapsed and was replaced by other stable and modernizing states it would have caused more trouble for them.

    • @susanthejew6351
      @susanthejew6351 10 місяців тому +5

      the ottoman empire at any point was like a rotten tooth*
      there fixed your sentence

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 10 місяців тому +12

      ​@@susanthejew6351lol u must be butt hurt over an empire to make a comment like that lol. Didn't know they were that great

    • @FodaseNaoLigo
      @FodaseNaoLigo 5 місяців тому

      Average bot​@@susanthejew6351

  • @korakys
    @korakys 10 місяців тому +82

    I spy that this has just changed from a 10 part series to 15 parts! Can't say I'm too surprised, there is a lot of history to cover after all.

  • @gabri770
    @gabri770 10 місяців тому +88

    These videos are a gem one after another!
    As an Albanian, finding more and more information like this, it is astonishing to find out that albanians went really quickly, from being all around the Mediterranean sea and more being part of the Ottoman Empire, to isolated in 28.000km2 during communism in less than 50 years.

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 10 місяців тому +6

      Isn't it weird that history has these harsh changes withing generations time-line?
      I mean 50 years is nothing- it's grandpa to grandson transformation!

    • @mehmetfatihcetin5932
      @mehmetfatihcetin5932 10 місяців тому +3

      Thse were muslim albanians though

    • @petrospetromixos6962
      @petrospetromixos6962 10 місяців тому +6

      Were they Albanians though? At that time it could be just a mix of Ottoman muslims that werent Turks, hell the term Albanian is even used for Serbian mersenaries

    • @mehmetfatihcetin5932
      @mehmetfatihcetin5932 10 місяців тому

      @@petrospetromixos6962 idk maybe muslim balkan people.

    • @buniart3779
      @buniart3779 10 місяців тому +8

      ​@petrospetromixos6962 the ottomans had proper records for their paid soliders and workers of their empire. So them saying the soliders were albanian, its because they were. Also this can be proven by the large amout of albanians, which spoke and identified as albanian in Egypt and other parts of the ottoman empire. You try to devalue their work? Or remove credit from them?

  • @geraldmeehan8942
    @geraldmeehan8942 10 місяців тому +32

    I am relatively new to this channel and really find it entertaining, interesting and informative. Your maps are excellent in that they depict political control rather than just international borders. Keep the videos coming and keep up the good work!

  • @MausOfTheHouse
    @MausOfTheHouse 10 місяців тому +140

    As a Georgian these series have made me realise just how important the slave trade was to the ME/NA

    • @ShubhamMishrabro
      @ShubhamMishrabro 10 місяців тому +42

      It was but this has been suppressed to not showcase the brutality of other slave trade other than Atlantic one

    • @MausOfTheHouse
      @MausOfTheHouse 10 місяців тому +45

      @@ShubhamMishrabro Both were bad.

    • @عليياسر-ذ5ب
      @عليياسر-ذ5ب 10 місяців тому +6

      ​@@MausOfTheHouseBritain: No, try again

    • @oguzkaganonder1331
      @oguzkaganonder1331 10 місяців тому +30

      @@ShubhamMishrabro Atlantic slave trade was the most cruel one in fact you can't even accept the İslamic slavery as ''slavery'' compared to Chattel slavery, that was the most wicked and evil form of slavery

    • @ShubhamMishrabro
      @ShubhamMishrabro 10 місяців тому +50

      @@oguzkaganonder1331 it doesn't matter which was more cruel. What matters is which one is hidden more which was cruel too. And slave trade of Africa and middle east are hidden

  • @ThatSlowTypingGuy
    @ThatSlowTypingGuy 10 місяців тому +28

    20:14 "Once again, just to re-iterate, these were not nations, these were all provinces of the same empire."
    This makes some of the crazier stuff in Battletech lore look positively sane.

  • @DirkusTurkess
    @DirkusTurkess 10 місяців тому +12

    "Damned Muslims, they ruined Islam!" - Muslim Groundskeeper Willy

  • @oslonorway547
    @oslonorway547 10 місяців тому +57

    If the British pass by your farm, then it's a foregone conclusion. Your cows will turn on the goats, and suddenly certain sheep would consider themselves better than other sheep because they have more wool or produced less milk or whatever. 😅

    • @BOZ_11
      @BOZ_11 10 місяців тому +10

      old Iraqi saying: if two fish fight in the Tigris, the British are behind it

    • @NP3GA
      @NP3GA 10 місяців тому +5

      Not really relevant in that case. They seem to mostly slither their way into existing conflicts than creating new ones

    • @KelticStingray
      @KelticStingray 10 місяців тому

      Arabs always love to blame their issues on foreigners rather than take a good long look at their barbaric warlord culture.

    • @shzarmai
      @shzarmai 10 місяців тому +2

      haha very funny and original

    • @mudra5114
      @mudra5114 10 місяців тому

      Pure bullshit.

  • @nplt8263
    @nplt8263 10 місяців тому +11

    I love the subtly increasing number of parts each time a video is posted

  • @nourerrahmanebrahmia4035
    @nourerrahmanebrahmia4035 10 місяців тому +105

    Would be interesting to talk more about Algerian political system at this time , Jean Jacques Rousseau the philosopher of the western enlightenment praised it, as it was one of the first modern republics in the world (although it was somehow an Islamic military republic) it was still recognised as such by the likes of Louis 14 of France and Montesquieu. I think no Islamic power of the time had a quasi democratic system like Algiers.
    PS: Never said Algiers was not Ottoman at this point, however it still was an autonomous state and its rulers of foreign origins identified themselves as Algerian politically. that's why it's also called "Ottoman Algeria"

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 10 місяців тому +22

      Wasn't the rulling class fortune based on slave trade?
      Not very democratic nor enlightened if the economic driving force is enslavement.

    • @newguy8288
      @newguy8288 10 місяців тому +1

      @@puraLusawell the US was considered a revolutionary republic in its inception, and well, they practiced slavery.

    • @thadsul
      @thadsul 10 місяців тому +44

      ​@puraLusa all western european powers in the 17th and 18th century had slavery as an economic basis in their colonies, but no one denies their enlightenment. The US keeps basically the same democratic system since it's independence, and they also kept slavery for almost a century

    • @nourerrahmanebrahmia4035
      @nourerrahmanebrahmia4035 10 місяців тому +22

      @@puraLusa Algiers is an Islamic version of the state of the Knights hospitaller of Rhodes, the pirate Barbarossa brothers created this state for a military purpose, fight against the Spanish empire, so slave trade and naval spoils and tribute were a primary source of income yet agriculture and trade did take a significant part in this state economy, in fact the crisis of the 19th century and the revolts happened because of the decline in those fields, and regarding trade it was one of the main causes of the french colonisation, check about the Jewish brothers bacri and bushnach case with the debts of the Algerian wheat supplies to Napoleonic France.

    • @mint8648
      @mint8648 10 місяців тому +3

      Source?

  • @anthonyruby2668
    @anthonyruby2668 10 місяців тому +3

    LOVED IT!!! I remember the ONLY time hearing about The Ottoman Empire during the Napoleonic Wars was a 90s Risk computer game with a regional Historical Strategy Campaign mode

  • @jonathanrotem251
    @jonathanrotem251 10 місяців тому +18

    The Middle East was the centre of the world's economy, linking Europe to South & East Asia, and giving it control over the trade routes. The dicovery of the Americas changed that, and gave the West an ever increasing advantage over the Middle East. Eventually, the West won. The rest is just details.

  • @shkodra1505
    @shkodra1505 10 місяців тому +8

    man we Albanians , literally cursed to bring chaos wherever we go

  • @unbabunga229
    @unbabunga229 10 місяців тому +5

    When Mohammed was born, until then it was the land of Greek, Persian and Byzantine culture

  • @1962brennan
    @1962brennan 3 місяці тому

    I put this on as background and had to stop what I was doing. In fact when it's done I'm going to have to listen to it again this is an excellent program

  • @exploringtheplanetsn
    @exploringtheplanetsn 10 місяців тому +19

    People blame the today’s Middle East’s problem on the French and British division of land. But I doubt it really would have changed the amount of violence and bloodshed that region always experienced

    • @Houthiandtheblowfish
      @Houthiandtheblowfish 10 місяців тому

      you have to recognize that 18th century world as a whole is violent place so saying that we didnt have to with the violence after 19th problems after border drawings its not our problem its their inherit problem so we are not guilty is not a good argument

    • @samuall-gl4vt
      @samuall-gl4vt 10 місяців тому

      Well they funded and supported many rebellions and after ww1 the borders they drew were intentionally drawn to ensure continuous civil wars and border fights amidst the rising ntionalistic sentiments

  • @AssyrianFire
    @AssyrianFire 10 місяців тому +6

    Can’t wait for a discussion of Badr Khan next episode!

    • @JabzyJoe
      @JabzyJoe  10 місяців тому +3

      With a name like Assyrian Fire I'm sure you know about the massacres already.

  • @ignatiuscianci4440
    @ignatiuscianci4440 10 місяців тому +5

    Ottoman new army during the Selim the III completely recruited from Anatolia, west of Euphrates. This situation also explains Turkey's borders and internal conflicts.

  • @marcusmenalucas7224
    @marcusmenalucas7224 8 місяців тому +1

    Very Detailed Information And A GREAT Presentation !

  • @gerharddeusser9103
    @gerharddeusser9103 10 місяців тому +7

    And today they are telling us that islam means peace and that everything was peaceful until europeans arrived.....
    😇

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 10 місяців тому

      Nope only liberals say that islam is violent when it needs to be and peacful when it needs to be. Islam is more than "peace"

    • @damaskhaoula4777
      @damaskhaoula4777 10 місяців тому +1

      Oh as if europe was a peaceful place it was as bloodiest as the middel east or worst you people have the 100 years war what wars then that , it is a fact muslims were strong when they were united

    • @oppionatedindividual8256
      @oppionatedindividual8256 10 днів тому

      @@damaskhaoula4777 and Europeans were and remain strong divided. I seem to remember a time where 90% of Muslims were ruled by three Europeans countries? 🇬🇧( more than France) 🇫🇷( a lot)🇮🇹(Libya, Eritrea, Somalia) 🇳🇱 (Indonesia)

  • @Nicolas-hh5cp
    @Nicolas-hh5cp 10 місяців тому +4

    Thanks for all the work you put in these videos mate

  • @csx3180
    @csx3180 10 місяців тому +7

    Would love an episode on north africa, especially on morocco and how it missed its chance to become a great power again and industralize in the 18th-19th centuries letting its european neighbors create a technological gap that ultimately led to it not being able to defend its massive precolonial territories and also putting it in debt in a desperate attempt to modernize making things worse

  • @abdullahshahrani9427
    @abdullahshahrani9427 10 місяців тому +5

    The beginning of muhammed ali's campaign in arabia was difficult. Tuson pasha was defeated in the battle of wadi safra. The wahhabis didn't exploit this and the campaign was resumed until the battle of basl where the saudis where defeated by muhammed ali himself commanding. Some bedouin tribes defected with promises of gold. The siege of diriyah was mentioned in the video. However another wahhabi holdout was in the south called asir. The south was mountainous and much more populated and was able to wage a guerrilla war against muhammed ali's troops. Ali was able to capture and and kill many leaders but the resistance persisted until peace was agreed and the emirate of asir was established and was allied to the second saudi state in nejd. This asir state later allied itself with muhammed ali's descendants againts the ottomans but was destroyed by the turks in 1870s. The third saudi state reunited most regions of the first in modern saudi arabia between 1902 and 1932.

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 10 місяців тому

      This was nothing compared to his epic battles with Joe Frazier, though…

  • @Weedwizard600
    @Weedwizard600 10 місяців тому +6

    Muhammad Ali heavyweight champ and defender of Egypt very cool man really could do it all

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 10 місяців тому +1

      Floated like a butterfly, stung like a very, very sharp sword.

    • @Weedwizard600
      @Weedwizard600 10 місяців тому +1

      @@grahamstrouse1165 classic Ali saying right before invading Damascus

  • @gabekruse8403
    @gabekruse8403 10 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for the interesting history!

  • @arome5901
    @arome5901 10 місяців тому +4

    Loved your china series and this one. Keep up the work hopefully you can make one about mesoamerica

  • @nagillim7915
    @nagillim7915 10 місяців тому +4

    I know this is reductive and far too simplistic, but it really does sound like the religious imperative in Islam for absolute rulers is the Middle East's greatest weakness.
    When you have so many competing factions all trying to be the one person who gets to be in power, despite the fact he'll never be accepted by all of the other factions, unity and prosperity is pretty much impossible. One that basis it's more surprising the Islamic Golden Age happened than that it ended.
    I guess the rest of humanity is lucky that Muhammed didn't instruct his followers to implement corporatism or oligarchy or some other form of rule by coalition and went the autocracy route, thereby dooming them to factional in-fighting for centuries after the deaths of his direct inheritors.

    • @samuall-gl4vt
      @samuall-gl4vt 10 місяців тому

      This is a ridiculous claim in my opinion. The reasons the islamic empires fell are the same reasons for the fall of any empire : weak leadership leading to new usurpers, wether governors or officiers et, to rebell or form their own sepratist state, oppurtinist inciting civil strife, corruption.. Etc etc. Relegion or not it's almost the same every time

  • @rossyuill5842
    @rossyuill5842 9 місяців тому

    This is mesmerising it’s like a time machine in to the past so interesting!! You just got a very impressed new subscriber 👏👏

  • @animeroom2399
    @animeroom2399 10 місяців тому +6

    Algeria would also face civil war known as the Darqaoua uprising which was supported by foreign nations and even gained some officials support such as the bey of Oran which caused unrest and suspicion in its final years and have weakened it alot both internally and externally. Also Ali khodja wasn't the First Algerian dey, other ones such as Baba Ali Chaouch and Mohemed Ben Othman were also Algerians born in Algiers even Hassan pasha was half Algerian with his mother being Algerian.

  • @m.a.9571
    @m.a.9571 10 місяців тому +1

    Man this type of content is peak imo

  • @vasiliualexandru4725
    @vasiliualexandru4725 10 місяців тому +4

    In all reality it is the Ottoman empire who wiped Islam

    • @AhmedHussein-sp9tq
      @AhmedHussein-sp9tq 10 місяців тому +1

      actually , as an Egyptian , I'm starting to believe in this statement

  • @nathanielzarny1176
    @nathanielzarny1176 10 місяців тому +4

    Geez albania is a tiny country, how do so many slave soldiers come from there to rule places with populations so much larger than their own?

    • @theOrionsarms
      @theOrionsarms 10 місяців тому +1

      Well not slave soldiers, but mostly mercenary, and also Albanian womens have many children in those times, so didn't matter that five boys from the same family leave the country and only two returns, those two were rich (according with local standards), and before died aford to have four wife's each and have 20 children each, half of the children were men and become mercenary, and the women married with some surviving mercenary that return from a far away campaign. So actually was a way of life that make sense, as long is a decaying empire near by, that needs mercenary from a poorer and hard-core provincial region.

  • @abhyudayasinhchauhan6499
    @abhyudayasinhchauhan6499 10 місяців тому +3

    Very informative❤❤

  • @pootmcgoot5458
    @pootmcgoot5458 10 місяців тому +5

    sykes picot was the sudden factor

  • @tombogan03884
    @tombogan03884 10 місяців тому +4

    Read some history.
    The first recorded battles, Hattin, and Kadesh, happened right there.
    The Eurasian land mass has never been together They have been at each others throats since the beginning of civilization.

  • @HelloimthisguyYT
    @HelloimthisguyYT 10 місяців тому +30

    The ottomans were in decline pretty much since their peak, i guess they made too many powerful enemies

    • @otten5666
      @otten5666 10 місяців тому +41

      Ofcourse the decline comes right after the peak. If there is no decline the peak is not reached.

    • @westrim
      @westrim 10 місяців тому +25

      ​@@otten5666 I mean, you can have plateaus and mountain ranges.

    • @HelloimthisguyYT
      @HelloimthisguyYT 10 місяців тому +3

      @@otten5666 I meant they didn’t stay at their peak for long and became real reliant on anglo-frankish attempts to sustain the status quo real fast after losing tonnes of Balkan land

    • @yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571
      @yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571 10 місяців тому +10

      ​@@HelloimthisguyYTI would say that 400 years of unquestionable dominance over the Balkans is pretty long

    • @HelloimthisguyYT
      @HelloimthisguyYT 10 місяців тому +1

      @@yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571 their balkan peak was in the early to mid 1500s and they started losing Balkan lands in the late 1500s and significantly in the late 1600s to austria

  • @kitstorm7637
    @kitstorm7637 10 місяців тому +3

    i'm very exited to get to the wwI portion of this series

  • @joshuajwars4271
    @joshuajwars4271 8 місяців тому +1

    Selim 3 gets thrown out and succeeded by Mustafa 4 except there's a surprise turned out Mahmoud later called as Mahmoud 2 hid in the cabinets as Mustafa 4 used the guards to kill Selim 3 but missed Mahmoud due to him not being placed in the target list Turkish slave soldiers committed the biggest blunder in history.

  • @PeterLee-zn3jl
    @PeterLee-zn3jl 10 місяців тому +3

    Bloodthirsty mercenaries and clan centric rivalries...
    Oo la la

  • @aron7134
    @aron7134 10 місяців тому +4

    And he did all this while being heavyweight champ?

  • @maliktemoor2701
    @maliktemoor2701 10 місяців тому +4

    Sir you don't talk about omani sultanate colonial empire in Africa ?

    • @JabzyJoe
      @JabzyJoe  10 місяців тому +4

      Next couple episodes its discussed

    • @maliktemoor2701
      @maliktemoor2701 10 місяців тому +1

      @@JabzyJoe thankx plz talk on various smaller Arab states
      Which exist in that time

    • @Claribelle401
      @Claribelle401 10 місяців тому

      To put it bluntly, one of Africa 's greatest mistake was to trust and aligned themselves with Arabs/Muslim

  • @thispodcastisnotimportant6667
    @thispodcastisnotimportant6667 10 місяців тому +3

    Can't find anything about Bashir Shihab II being a secret Christian it seems he was openly Christian. His father was a secret Christian though.

  • @russianbot8423
    @russianbot8423 10 місяців тому +2

    Whoever was to blame... thank you

  • @podcastler
    @podcastler 10 місяців тому +16

    Congratulations to the Ottomans for keeping such a geography stable for so many years

  • @VergiliosSpatulas
    @VergiliosSpatulas 10 місяців тому +6

    When Islam became a thing.

    • @osmanhazan1499
      @osmanhazan1499 10 місяців тому +1

      Roman empire entered the chat

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 10 місяців тому +1

      Cry pagan

  • @abdullahanwer9987
    @abdullahanwer9987 10 місяців тому

    wow. well done on an awesome video!!!

  • @dawnfire82
    @dawnfire82 10 місяців тому +16

    Muslims. Muslims tore the Islamic world apart. Of the first four caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, and Ali), three died violently (Umar, Uthman, and Ali). Two of these (Uthman and Ali) were killed by other Muslims (including a son of the first caliph) and one (Umar) by a slave in revenge for oppression.

    • @suicasu3514
      @suicasu3514 10 місяців тому

      What do you expect from an animalistic religion

    • @GetNuked25
      @GetNuked25 10 місяців тому

      @@suicasu3514Based

    • @Grenadier311
      @Grenadier311 10 місяців тому +5

      Don't forget the Mongols.

    • @عليياسر-ذ5ب
      @عليياسر-ذ5ب 10 місяців тому

      Tell me that you cannot read history without saying that the European Berbers remain Berbers 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @kaifxaif9502
      @kaifxaif9502 10 місяців тому +1

      As if europaean didn't slaughter each others in ww1 ww2,30 years wars etc

  • @LordJudgement1818
    @LordJudgement1818 10 місяців тому +10

    It's been like this for centuries

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 10 місяців тому

      Yup just that present times there are less assassinations.

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 10 місяців тому

      Not under ottomans and others

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 10 місяців тому

      @@AY-qz3pu under the ottomans internal fighting for power in each province made as unstable as if each province was it's own country.

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 10 місяців тому

      @@puraLusa I understand but that's nothing like how the middle east is today

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 10 місяців тому

      @@AY-qz3pu half of the violence (like other places) wasn't reported, abject poverty was generally accepted by the rulling class, due to the block to the printing press iliteracy was the norm, slavery was an accepted business. The difference is that there was no internacional standard to compare and there was no internet.
      The violence and suffering was still there. But hey, let's pretend for the sake of narratives 😂

  • @vanmars5718
    @vanmars5718 10 місяців тому +3

    The middle east was always doomed to fell apart. Lands taken by christians, with major ancient indigenous Christian societies in it, always ruled by a big empire without ever having the chance to develop a unique national characteristic amd to adapt the political system of the Western countries which could provide a stable political/social life.
    The Christian states that were liberated from the Ottomans could succeed in a greater level (bad luck with thr socialistic period) since they had a national unique identity amd adopted the Western political system while thr Arabs couldn't easily done neither of these.
    Only in our days some Arab countries finally could develop a unique national identity, such as Egypt and been a bit more stable...

    • @Claribelle401
      @Claribelle401 10 місяців тому

      Egypt is not an Arab country. It is occupied by Arabs who has confiscated the history, achievements, and culture as their own.

  • @bakonajm1136
    @bakonajm1136 10 місяців тому +3

    please do a video on Kurdish history

  • @bosbanon3452
    @bosbanon3452 10 місяців тому +2

    The Arab has lose their Indian ocean trade route to Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, and south Philippines

  • @nagillim7915
    @nagillim7915 10 місяців тому +1

    GRR Martin couldn't write this level of backstabbing and betrayal...

  • @maxt-pi5ky
    @maxt-pi5ky 10 місяців тому

    Excellent video

  • @forgotten1s
    @forgotten1s 10 місяців тому +2

    Muhammad Ali!!! I cant think of anything besides the boxer 😫

  • @joynal_dev
    @joynal_dev 7 місяців тому

    Hi, do you upload these on any other audio only platforms? more would listen to these episodes. Also, is it possible to have these as background music free on patreon or anywhere else?

  • @mu0FFpu0FF
    @mu0FFpu0FF 10 місяців тому +6

    As always, they're the victims😂

  • @tarharqataseti9261
    @tarharqataseti9261 10 місяців тому +3

    The Ottomans, Khazars and the Aishmalites in no particular order!!

  • @ikenwabufo8003
    @ikenwabufo8003 9 місяців тому

    When will there ever be peace in this region? None then and none till now....is it the water, the air or the people?????

  • @oh_rhythm
    @oh_rhythm 10 місяців тому

    the visual aspect is lacking. it's really hard to keep track and actually understand what's being said without visual aid.

  • @NikephorosCaesar
    @NikephorosCaesar 10 місяців тому +4

    When the Arabs came out of the desert

    • @N1cat0r17
      @N1cat0r17 10 місяців тому +1

      You mean when Alexander marched his army towards Anatolia

  • @nicbahtin4774
    @nicbahtin4774 10 місяців тому +1

    1:54 lol that a big hat

  • @fabreezethefaintinggoat5484
    @fabreezethefaintinggoat5484 10 місяців тому +10

    amazing just how brutal and reliant on slave trade these creatures were so late ,well today as well

    • @yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571
      @yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571 10 місяців тому +2

      You are romanian

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@@yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571comentator nationality makes zero diference. Until the international trade of slaves was banned a lot of powerful people were rich cause of slave trade as it was a fast way to make fast money.

    • @mint8648
      @mint8648 10 місяців тому +6

      They didn’t rely on agricultural slavery as much as household slavery, unlike european colonies

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 10 місяців тому

      @@mint8648 mith. Galleys for example.

    • @ShubhamMishrabro
      @ShubhamMishrabro 10 місяців тому

      It continued till 20th century

  • @alexisgateley230
    @alexisgateley230 10 місяців тому +1

    Lengthy Ottoman occupation led to the decline of Arab states and civilization.

  • @icarus372
    @icarus372 10 місяців тому +16

    Heres the thing.
    It was always falling apart chief.

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 10 місяців тому +2

      With the amount of internal power grabs and rebelion - its a miracle it lasted so long.

    • @mint8648
      @mint8648 10 місяців тому +4

      ⁠@@puraLusathe ottoman system was far more stable and centralized than european empires though

    • @BeedrillYanyan
      @BeedrillYanyan 10 місяців тому +3

      Maybe in the beginning, when Europe was still filled with feudal kingdoms. But whereas the Europeans centralized more and more throughout the centuries, the Ottomans did the opposite.

    • @GetNuked25
      @GetNuked25 10 місяців тому

      @@puraLusamiracle?

    • @GetNuked25
      @GetNuked25 10 місяців тому

      @@mint8648centralized on b*rbarianism? yes

  • @jacktran7024
    @jacktran7024 10 місяців тому

    Started in 1492 when columbus discovered america and later others found ways around the M.E. to get to India.

  • @grahamstrouse1165
    @grahamstrouse1165 10 місяців тому

    So wait, when was Muhammed Ali in Albania? Was this before or after the Thriller in Manila?

  • @africandawahrevival
    @africandawahrevival 10 місяців тому +4

    More videos about wahabis please, great video 👍

  • @Lisa-t1n7l
    @Lisa-t1n7l 10 місяців тому

    I'll bet the Mongols did a lot of damage. But you never hear about that.

  • @89volvowithlazers
    @89volvowithlazers 10 місяців тому

    This period of the ottoman empire reminds me of the Austro Hungarian state just more sanguine and even more identity policy, watched 3 or 4 of your 1600 to 20th Century Africa and Middle East. Wild stuff the narrative needs to change fer sure

  • @lenowoo
    @lenowoo 10 місяців тому

    These guy are such a good boy. . They didn't let the girls eat the biohazard

  • @westrim
    @westrim 10 місяців тому +23

    I'd say the Middle East began falling apart sometime during the Neolithic.

    • @icarus372
      @icarus372 10 місяців тому +3

      Trueeeee

    • @mastermokond2633
      @mastermokond2633 10 місяців тому +6

      Westoid

    • @icarus372
      @icarus372 10 місяців тому +9

      @@mastermokond2633 bro it's a joke, Europe only achieved peace like 80 years ago, and still we have conflicts break out

    • @SwingAxleLover
      @SwingAxleLover 10 місяців тому +11

      @@mastermokond2633 Imagine thinking this is an insult

    • @jaif7327
      @jaif7327 10 місяців тому +2

      @@mastermokond2633that meant to be an insult ?

  • @bosbanon3452
    @bosbanon3452 10 місяців тому +1

    So it is Ibrahim Pasha who betrayed bdullah bin Saud

  • @leme5639
    @leme5639 10 місяців тому +2

    but but but only US had Slaves
    sarcasm

  • @mna7308
    @mna7308 10 місяців тому +2

    In ottaman era they where we'll respected now they're like dogz to west

  • @NoelCarroll-wv6qd
    @NoelCarroll-wv6qd 10 місяців тому +7

    Jabzy love your vlogs. Please consider doing the Assyrian, Armenian, Greek and Pontic Christian genocide during the 1st world was at the hands of the barberous Turk's. It will take a man like you to shed light on the truth about the last hurrah of the ottomans

    • @alejandromaldonado6159
      @alejandromaldonado6159 10 місяців тому +1

      It's the Byzantines fault for allowing the Turks into Anatolia in the first place

    • @NoelCarroll-wv6qd
      @NoelCarroll-wv6qd 10 місяців тому +1

      @@alejandromaldonado6159 They didn't allow them in brother, They fought countless battles with Manizkert being the final one. The couda shoulda argument don't work, not with genocide the final outcome. Anyway many ancestors of the Byzantines were caught up in it

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 10 місяців тому

      ​@@NoelCarroll-wv6qdwasn't a Genocide

    • @NoelCarroll-wv6qd
      @NoelCarroll-wv6qd 10 місяців тому +1

      @@AY-qz3pu your obviously Turkish, Azerbaijani, or from some islamic country that was been brainwashed to the point that you don't even know about history that is little over 100 years old. YES THERE WAS THREE GENOCIDES inflicted by the young Turks that hated any minority in their country, including Kurds. Why or how did the Armenian population drop from 5.6 million to 3.9 million in three years? Come on Einstein tell me, how did the pontic Christians of the black sea disappear by 1922, and Greek and Turkish Christians almost fall by 90% in four years. Yes there was a religious exchange but that only accounts for 30% of the Christian population of the Area that was their land as the Seljuk Turk's ran from the cumin and Mongols and left your ancient home in the Caspian sea area and invaded Anatolia in the mid 10th century. Erdogen is not a sultan, he is an animal and Kamal will be turning in his grave because of this monster. But just like the ottomans, erdogen will get what's coming to him soon. My advice to you is stop reading the Qur'an and hadiths and start learning the true history of your people and show some understanding and moral forgiveness for what you done

  • @UlyssesJonah
    @UlyssesJonah 10 місяців тому +1

    In 1:38 you say Napoleon besieged Jaffa but it's actually Acre isn't it

    • @JabzyJoe
      @JabzyJoe  10 місяців тому +3

      No he sieged Jaffa as well, in early March 1799.

    • @UlyssesJonah
      @UlyssesJonah 10 місяців тому +1

      @@JabzyJoe thanks for the fast reply i wasn’t sure

  • @davasaurthereal4678
    @davasaurthereal4678 4 місяці тому

    Take a shot for every time you hear ‘Pasha’ (don’t)

  • @rycolligan
    @rycolligan 10 місяців тому

    TL;DR: Literally everyone.

  • @Grenadier311
    @Grenadier311 10 місяців тому +3

    One could say that the Mongols dismembered classical Islamic civilization centuries earlier.

    • @me_12-vw1vi
      @me_12-vw1vi 10 місяців тому +3

      not really. ottomans inherited from the last abbasid patriarch and reunited the lands. the mongols invasion was a wake up call to people of the time who were too comfortable with their numerous small divided states until city walls collapsed. the early ottoman era was impressive with taking Constantinople and pushing through europe, reuniting iraq with egypt and syria and advancing towards algeria. some people might even be grateful for mongols invasion because of the victories that came for islam after the first mongol defeat in syria

    • @Grenadier311
      @Grenadier311 10 місяців тому +2

      @@me_12-vw1vi Excellent points. The extra militarization of Islamic countries adjusting to the Mongols opened doors for greater glory. The loss of Baghdad is a sad tale, though.

  • @eliasjak
    @eliasjak 10 місяців тому

    We Moroccans we never accepted to be ruled from the outside of our kingdom

  • @Nonamearisto
    @Nonamearisto 10 місяців тому +18

    I think the real lesson is this: that war between the ERE and Persia in the early 600s really messed the world up. If not for that, Islam wouldn't have been an issue, as either empire could have snuffed it out like a candle had they not beaten each other to the verge of death in that 26 year conflict. Like it or not, Islam is terrible for anything resembling orderly government, or centralization. Case in point, all four of the first Caliphs (the "Rashidun") were assassinated, Islam itself broke into rival, mutually exclusive factions after just a few decades, various Islam empires rose and fell over the same territory with ridiculous frequency (hence the names of various dynasties to describe regions instead of stable governments, such as the Samanids or the Timurids), and even the Ottomans were highly decentralized; Egypt was basically an independent ally of the empire for at least half of the Ottoman Empire's existence, sometimes with more military might than the Ottoman Sultan himself, and the bizarre ad hoc ways of building their large but hideously undertrained and badly equipped armies never stood up to any European state larger than, say, Romania. Only the Janisseries- the very best the Ottomans had- were a match for the standard European soldier, and then, barely so. And most of those Janisseries were Europeans themselves, taken as slaves as boys and subject to all sorts of depredations.
    Turkey today should be broken up, the Turks evacuated from Constantinople, Ionia, Pontus, and Cyprus, the Kurds given their own state, and not only should the Armenians be given an apology for the genocide, but they should get their old territory back, including Mount Ararat. If not for Turkey being in NATO, this would be easy to do, given how basically everyone in the region hates their guts and the only reason NATO wants them is due to their control of the Bosphorous strait, being too important to pass up as it helped us contain Russia and the USSR before that. I'm just afraid they'd blow up the Hagia Sophia before letting it be restored to its rightful status as a church.

    • @logangustavson
      @logangustavson 10 місяців тому +20

      Found the Greek

    • @wingedvictory8694
      @wingedvictory8694 10 місяців тому +9

      i think you are too radical

    • @Nonamearisto
      @Nonamearisto 10 місяців тому +7

      @@wingedvictory8694 Was it radical for the Ottoman Empire to be dismantled? Was it radical for the USSR to be taken apart? This would be like that one more time, just one level down, in the case of Turkey being taken apart, just as those countries were. If anything, it's just a completion of what the allies were planning to do in the early 1920s. If nothing else, Cyprus should be reunited under the Greek majority, the Turkish soldiers should be pulled out, and Armenia should get its sacred mountain and an apology.
      And for the record, I'm Italian-American.

    • @matthew7027
      @matthew7027 10 місяців тому +6

      @@Nonamearisto italian american. now we know how so dull.

    • @Nonamearisto
      @Nonamearisto 10 місяців тому +2

      @@matthew7027 No one thinks of Italian-Americans as dull. That's more of a WASP stereotype. Croquet mallets and sweaters over button-up shirts.

  • @Ron-n4j1l
    @Ron-n4j1l 10 місяців тому

    When was it together?

  • @vadertrap6535
    @vadertrap6535 10 місяців тому +2

    I stand by my thesis that its always the damn brits and french

  • @abelsonkalu9862
    @abelsonkalu9862 8 місяців тому

    The question is why middle east is begin to fall apart , the answer is not far fetched., But you are very intimidated to agree that your religious bigotry politics is paying back and have started to crumble unchallenged.

  • @paulszymanski2513
    @paulszymanski2513 10 місяців тому

    Colonialism tipped the scales of power.

  • @AmrGamerYT
    @AmrGamerYT 10 місяців тому

    1:24 and 3 years and France kicked out

  • @peterasp1968
    @peterasp1968 10 місяців тому +3

    After Iran fell in 642 AD

  • @harukrentz435
    @harukrentz435 10 місяців тому

    Simply answer: The Ottoman. Notice that no world reknown scientist came out of muslims world after they took over?

  • @bold810
    @bold810 10 місяців тому +3

    The better question is to ask when it make sense for it to ever fit together?
    Ask yourselves- "If we were Energy-Sufficient, would ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS CARE ABOUT SUCH THOROUGHLY AWFUL PEOPLE AS ALL SUCH OVER THERE? YOU SURE??"
    Renewable energy saves more innocent lives that democracy.

    • @mastermokond2633
      @mastermokond2633 10 місяців тому +1

      English plz, for god sake.

    • @levilastun829
      @levilastun829 10 місяців тому

      Only the nuclear energy has the possibility to replace the dirty coal, oil and gas energy. But currently it's unpopular in some western states

    • @bold810
      @bold810 10 місяців тому

      @@mastermokond2633 ys, meester.

    • @bold810
      @bold810 10 місяців тому

      @@levilastun829 Are you sure you don't mean "Some" States, right?

  • @ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded
    @ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded 10 місяців тому +3

    0:41 Alexander The Great’s Soldiers never used these shields, nor were these helmets common.
    People think the Macedonian army looked just all Greeks, It didnt.

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 10 місяців тому +5

      the macedonians were greeks themselves, and they DID use those shields ever heard of the hypaspists???? ,other than the corinthian helmet which had fallen out of use they used the exact same kit as regular hoplites

    • @vanmars5718
      @vanmars5718 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@wankawanka3053He never acknowledged that Alexander spread the Greek language and culture till India also.. he is from the known people of the known Bulgarian in denial state....ot even worse, an Albanian 🤦‍♂️

  • @pierce7992
    @pierce7992 10 місяців тому +5

    I mean the ottomans army was powerful but the government was shit it fell apart from the inside out

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 10 місяців тому

      So how did it exist for so long then?

    • @pierce7992
      @pierce7992 10 місяців тому

      @@AY-qz3pu 600 years roughly

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 10 місяців тому

      @@pierce7992 which is quite long especially the fact when they were facing multiple rivals at each front let alone internal problems

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 10 місяців тому

      @@pierce7992 also it only dissolved 100 years ago

  • @tariqrahman6918
    @tariqrahman6918 10 місяців тому

    Istanbul mate.

  • @CivilizedWasteland
    @CivilizedWasteland 10 місяців тому +1

    Me, I did it.

  • @KM-sr9cc
    @KM-sr9cc 10 місяців тому +1

    Divide and conquer, that's what the British did in their colonies across the World.
    Arab world with its unique language, religion, culture, and people is unable to unite under one union like Europeans and Americans.
    Every ruler has his own way of ruling in the Arab World and that is why disunity and chaos prevail in this part of the World.

  • @hopefullylost4012
    @hopefullylost4012 10 місяців тому +7

    A shred of DNA, a tiniest possible historical evidence for democracy or humility is just non existent in that entire geocultural area. Amazing.

    • @Oreocookie457
      @Oreocookie457 10 місяців тому

      Ur views are eurocentric

    • @hopefullylost4012
      @hopefullylost4012 10 місяців тому

      @@Oreocookie457 My family, my tribe only is not a humility in my view, no matter what you call it.

    • @samuall-gl4vt
      @samuall-gl4vt 10 місяців тому

      Well i'd say your ignorance is the reason not the area or geography. With some effort you'll find that present at the golden age of every empire that existed on that area, just as you'll find strife and corruption at the end of any empire regardless of where it's

    • @hopefullylost4012
      @hopefullylost4012 10 місяців тому

      @@samuall-gl4vt In 21st century, you are still screaming about empires. Impressive.

    • @samuall-gl4vt
      @samuall-gl4vt 10 місяців тому

      @@hopefullylost4012 woosh, the point completely went over your head. I said empires figuratively in the context of this video but the same points go for every nation, state, governing entity or whatever you want to call it. They don't collapse in a happy bloodless manner. The collapse is usually preceeded by what i mentioned above so it doesnt make sense for you to look at a nation at it's last days and assume it would be full of democracy, unity and humility.

  • @Terinije
    @Terinije 10 місяців тому +1

    Note to self, don't accept invitations to feasts.

  • @samlazar1053
    @samlazar1053 10 місяців тому

    Greece was newer islamis.Ww1 was waged to end islam there
    And after all the decolonization muslims still have not created a
    Heaven(nation state)

  • @faruksmajlovic1689
    @faruksmajlovic1689 10 місяців тому

    na toj karti fali Španija iPortugal.