When did the Middle East begin to Fall Apart? | History of the Middle East 1800-1820 - 5/21

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  • @JabzyJoe
    @JabzyJoe  8 місяців тому +23

    Part 4 - ua-cam.com/video/IcSv2OSR0N0/v-deo.html

    • @death-istic9586
      @death-istic9586 8 місяців тому

      Hi.

    • @shzarmai
      @shzarmai 8 місяців тому +1

      Hi there, please include your sources in your videos

    • @shzarmai
      @shzarmai 8 місяців тому +1

      please put sources in the videoes you make if possible

    • @susanthejew6351
      @susanthejew6351 8 місяців тому

      for the middle east to fall apart it had to be a prosperous place where conflict was something of the past... this never ever happened in the middle east it's always has and will be a shithole inhabited by sand apes who look like humans but act like animals
      from 600AD and onward it's been the retarded cousin we all wish would die already because he's embaricing to the rest of the fam :) sorry not sorry

    • @NoHandles333
      @NoHandles333 8 місяців тому

      Please make a playlist for the Middle East series of videos.

  • @korakys
    @korakys 8 місяців тому +81

    I spy that this has just changed from a 10 part series to 15 parts! Can't say I'm too surprised, there is a lot of history to cover after all.

  • @lipingrahman6648
    @lipingrahman6648 8 місяців тому +44

    The Ottoman Empire at this point was like a rotten tooth. Falling apart but standing and causing much pain. That it survived to be destroyed in WWI is nothing short of a miracle.

    • @theArab__
      @theArab__ 8 місяців тому +1

      More then a miracle it’s because European powers deliberately acted to keep it together, as its weak authority benefitted European ambitions in the area, if it had collapsed and was replaced by other stable and modernizing states it would have caused more trouble for them.

    • @susanthejew6351
      @susanthejew6351 8 місяців тому +5

      the ottoman empire at any point was like a rotten tooth*
      there fixed your sentence

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 8 місяців тому +12

      ​@@susanthejew6351lol u must be butt hurt over an empire to make a comment like that lol. Didn't know they were that great

    • @FodaseNaoLigo
      @FodaseNaoLigo 3 місяці тому

      Average bot​@@susanthejew6351

  • @justinianthegreat1444
    @justinianthegreat1444 8 місяців тому +112

    Ottoman politics is so reminiscent of Byzantine politics without the Generals proclaiming themselves as Emperors

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j 8 місяців тому +8

      Romans: No

    • @shzarmai
      @shzarmai 8 місяців тому +3

      that's very fitting lol 😂

    • @AmritDillon
      @AmritDillon 8 місяців тому

      ​@@user-cg2tw8pw7jbyzantines are Romans

    • @liphardusmagus5970
      @liphardusmagus5970 7 місяців тому +5

      Well they tried to claim the title of roman emperor so it is kinda fitting

    • @Critt_Ari
      @Critt_Ari 6 місяців тому +6

      they ruled to the same land and, with some exceptions, to the same people in the end. furthermore, their governing mechanisms when they shifted from the murad the hudavendigar's "Ottoman State" to Mehmed the conqueror's "Ottoman Empire" were mostly reformed from the old systems of Murad to Mehmed's new systems which he based them on the byzantine and simply the roman system of governance as he believed this kind of system would be a need for an empire that would strech over 3 continents.

  • @ThatSlowTypingGuy
    @ThatSlowTypingGuy 8 місяців тому +27

    20:14 "Once again, just to re-iterate, these were not nations, these were all provinces of the same empire."
    This makes some of the crazier stuff in Battletech lore look positively sane.

  • @geraldmeehan8942
    @geraldmeehan8942 8 місяців тому +31

    I am relatively new to this channel and really find it entertaining, interesting and informative. Your maps are excellent in that they depict political control rather than just international borders. Keep the videos coming and keep up the good work!

  • @MausOfTheHouse
    @MausOfTheHouse 8 місяців тому +137

    As a Georgian these series have made me realise just how important the slave trade was to the ME/NA

    • @ShubhamMishrabro
      @ShubhamMishrabro 8 місяців тому +42

      It was but this has been suppressed to not showcase the brutality of other slave trade other than Atlantic one

    • @MausOfTheHouse
      @MausOfTheHouse 8 місяців тому +45

      @@ShubhamMishrabro Both were bad.

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j 8 місяців тому +6

      ​@@MausOfTheHouseBritain: No, try again

    • @oguzkaganonder1331
      @oguzkaganonder1331 8 місяців тому +30

      @@ShubhamMishrabro Atlantic slave trade was the most cruel one in fact you can't even accept the İslamic slavery as ''slavery'' compared to Chattel slavery, that was the most wicked and evil form of slavery

    • @ShubhamMishrabro
      @ShubhamMishrabro 8 місяців тому +50

      @@oguzkaganonder1331 it doesn't matter which was more cruel. What matters is which one is hidden more which was cruel too. And slave trade of Africa and middle east are hidden

  • @gabri770
    @gabri770 8 місяців тому +87

    These videos are a gem one after another!
    As an Albanian, finding more and more information like this, it is astonishing to find out that albanians went really quickly, from being all around the Mediterranean sea and more being part of the Ottoman Empire, to isolated in 28.000km2 during communism in less than 50 years.

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 8 місяців тому +6

      Isn't it weird that history has these harsh changes withing generations time-line?
      I mean 50 years is nothing- it's grandpa to grandson transformation!

    • @mehmetfatihcetin5932
      @mehmetfatihcetin5932 8 місяців тому +3

      Thse were muslim albanians though

    • @petrospetromixos6962
      @petrospetromixos6962 8 місяців тому +6

      Were they Albanians though? At that time it could be just a mix of Ottoman muslims that werent Turks, hell the term Albanian is even used for Serbian mersenaries

    • @mehmetfatihcetin5932
      @mehmetfatihcetin5932 8 місяців тому

      @@petrospetromixos6962 idk maybe muslim balkan people.

    • @buniart3779
      @buniart3779 8 місяців тому +8

      ​@petrospetromixos6962 the ottomans had proper records for their paid soliders and workers of their empire. So them saying the soliders were albanian, its because they were. Also this can be proven by the large amout of albanians, which spoke and identified as albanian in Egypt and other parts of the ottoman empire. You try to devalue their work? Or remove credit from them?

  • @nplt8263
    @nplt8263 8 місяців тому +10

    I love the subtly increasing number of parts each time a video is posted

  • @1962brennan
    @1962brennan Місяць тому

    I put this on as background and had to stop what I was doing. In fact when it's done I'm going to have to listen to it again this is an excellent program

  • @Nicolas-hh5cp
    @Nicolas-hh5cp 8 місяців тому +4

    Thanks for all the work you put in these videos mate

  • @oslonorway547
    @oslonorway547 8 місяців тому +55

    If the British pass by your farm, then it's a foregone conclusion. Your cows will turn on the goats, and suddenly certain sheep would consider themselves better than other sheep because they have more wool or produced less milk or whatever. 😅

    • @BOZ_11
      @BOZ_11 8 місяців тому +10

      old Iraqi saying: if two fish fight in the Tigris, the British are behind it

    • @NP3GA
      @NP3GA 8 місяців тому +5

      Not really relevant in that case. They seem to mostly slither their way into existing conflicts than creating new ones

    • @KelticStingray
      @KelticStingray 8 місяців тому

      Arabs always love to blame their issues on foreigners rather than take a good long look at their barbaric warlord culture.

    • @shzarmai
      @shzarmai 8 місяців тому +2

      haha very funny and original

    • @mudra5114
      @mudra5114 8 місяців тому

      Pure bullshit.

  • @marcusmenalucas7224
    @marcusmenalucas7224 6 місяців тому +1

    Very Detailed Information And A GREAT Presentation !

  • @DirkusTurkess
    @DirkusTurkess 8 місяців тому +12

    "Damned Muslims, they ruined Islam!" - Muslim Groundskeeper Willy

  • @nourerrahmanebrahmia4035
    @nourerrahmanebrahmia4035 8 місяців тому +104

    Would be interesting to talk more about Algerian political system at this time , Jean Jacques Rousseau the philosopher of the western enlightenment praised it, as it was one of the first modern republics in the world (although it was somehow an Islamic military republic) it was still recognised as such by the likes of Louis 14 of France and Montesquieu. I think no Islamic power of the time had a quasi democratic system like Algiers.
    PS: Never said Algiers was not Ottoman at this point, however it still was an autonomous state and its rulers of foreign origins identified themselves as Algerian politically. that's why it's also called "Ottoman Algeria"

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 8 місяців тому +22

      Wasn't the rulling class fortune based on slave trade?
      Not very democratic nor enlightened if the economic driving force is enslavement.

    • @newguy8288
      @newguy8288 8 місяців тому +1

      @@puraLusawell the US was considered a revolutionary republic in its inception, and well, they practiced slavery.

    • @thadsul
      @thadsul 8 місяців тому +44

      ​@puraLusa all western european powers in the 17th and 18th century had slavery as an economic basis in their colonies, but no one denies their enlightenment. The US keeps basically the same democratic system since it's independence, and they also kept slavery for almost a century

    • @nourerrahmanebrahmia4035
      @nourerrahmanebrahmia4035 8 місяців тому +22

      @@puraLusa Algiers is an Islamic version of the state of the Knights hospitaller of Rhodes, the pirate Barbarossa brothers created this state for a military purpose, fight against the Spanish empire, so slave trade and naval spoils and tribute were a primary source of income yet agriculture and trade did take a significant part in this state economy, in fact the crisis of the 19th century and the revolts happened because of the decline in those fields, and regarding trade it was one of the main causes of the french colonisation, check about the Jewish brothers bacri and bushnach case with the debts of the Algerian wheat supplies to Napoleonic France.

    • @mint8648
      @mint8648 8 місяців тому +3

      Source?

  • @gabekruse8403
    @gabekruse8403 8 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for the interesting history!

  • @AssyrianFire
    @AssyrianFire 8 місяців тому +6

    Can’t wait for a discussion of Badr Khan next episode!

    • @JabzyJoe
      @JabzyJoe  8 місяців тому +3

      With a name like Assyrian Fire I'm sure you know about the massacres already.

  • @rossyuill5842
    @rossyuill5842 7 місяців тому

    This is mesmerising it’s like a time machine in to the past so interesting!! You just got a very impressed new subscriber 👏👏

  • @jonathanrotem251
    @jonathanrotem251 8 місяців тому +16

    The Middle East was the centre of the world's economy, linking Europe to South & East Asia, and giving it control over the trade routes. The dicovery of the Americas changed that, and gave the West an ever increasing advantage over the Middle East. Eventually, the West won. The rest is just details.

  • @anthonyruby2668
    @anthonyruby2668 7 місяців тому +2

    LOVED IT!!! I remember the ONLY time hearing about The Ottoman Empire during the Napoleonic Wars was a 90s Risk computer game with a regional Historical Strategy Campaign mode

  • @arome5901
    @arome5901 8 місяців тому +4

    Loved your china series and this one. Keep up the work hopefully you can make one about mesoamerica

  • @csx3180
    @csx3180 8 місяців тому +7

    Would love an episode on north africa, especially on morocco and how it missed its chance to become a great power again and industralize in the 18th-19th centuries letting its european neighbors create a technological gap that ultimately led to it not being able to defend its massive precolonial territories and also putting it in debt in a desperate attempt to modernize making things worse

  • @ignatiuscianci4440
    @ignatiuscianci4440 8 місяців тому +5

    Ottoman new army during the Selim the III completely recruited from Anatolia, west of Euphrates. This situation also explains Turkey's borders and internal conflicts.

  • @abdullahanwer9987
    @abdullahanwer9987 8 місяців тому

    wow. well done on an awesome video!!!

  • @abhyudayasinhchauhan6499
    @abhyudayasinhchauhan6499 8 місяців тому +3

    Very informative❤❤

  • @m.a.9571
    @m.a.9571 8 місяців тому +1

    Man this type of content is peak imo

  • @maxt-pi5ky
    @maxt-pi5ky 8 місяців тому

    Excellent video

  • @shkodra1505
    @shkodra1505 8 місяців тому +7

    man we Albanians , literally cursed to bring chaos wherever we go

  • @abdullahshahrani9427
    @abdullahshahrani9427 8 місяців тому +5

    The beginning of muhammed ali's campaign in arabia was difficult. Tuson pasha was defeated in the battle of wadi safra. The wahhabis didn't exploit this and the campaign was resumed until the battle of basl where the saudis where defeated by muhammed ali himself commanding. Some bedouin tribes defected with promises of gold. The siege of diriyah was mentioned in the video. However another wahhabi holdout was in the south called asir. The south was mountainous and much more populated and was able to wage a guerrilla war against muhammed ali's troops. Ali was able to capture and and kill many leaders but the resistance persisted until peace was agreed and the emirate of asir was established and was allied to the second saudi state in nejd. This asir state later allied itself with muhammed ali's descendants againts the ottomans but was destroyed by the turks in 1870s. The third saudi state reunited most regions of the first in modern saudi arabia between 1902 and 1932.

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 8 місяців тому

      This was nothing compared to his epic battles with Joe Frazier, though…

  • @kitstorm7637
    @kitstorm7637 8 місяців тому +3

    i'm very exited to get to the wwI portion of this series

  • @exploringtheplanetsn
    @exploringtheplanetsn 8 місяців тому +18

    People blame the today’s Middle East’s problem on the French and British division of land. But I doubt it really would have changed the amount of violence and bloodshed that region always experienced

    • @Houthiandtheblowfish
      @Houthiandtheblowfish 8 місяців тому

      you have to recognize that 18th century world as a whole is violent place so saying that we didnt have to with the violence after 19th problems after border drawings its not our problem its their inherit problem so we are not guilty is not a good argument

    • @samuall-gl4vt
      @samuall-gl4vt 8 місяців тому

      Well they funded and supported many rebellions and after ww1 the borders they drew were intentionally drawn to ensure continuous civil wars and border fights amidst the rising ntionalistic sentiments

  • @unbabunga229
    @unbabunga229 8 місяців тому +4

    When Mohammed was born, until then it was the land of Greek, Persian and Byzantine culture

  • @animeroom2399
    @animeroom2399 8 місяців тому +6

    Algeria would also face civil war known as the Darqaoua uprising which was supported by foreign nations and even gained some officials support such as the bey of Oran which caused unrest and suspicion in its final years and have weakened it alot both internally and externally. Also Ali khodja wasn't the First Algerian dey, other ones such as Baba Ali Chaouch and Mohemed Ben Othman were also Algerians born in Algiers even Hassan pasha was half Algerian with his mother being Algerian.

  • @Weedwizard600
    @Weedwizard600 8 місяців тому +6

    Muhammad Ali heavyweight champ and defender of Egypt very cool man really could do it all

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 8 місяців тому +1

      Floated like a butterfly, stung like a very, very sharp sword.

    • @Weedwizard600
      @Weedwizard600 8 місяців тому +1

      @@grahamstrouse1165 classic Ali saying right before invading Damascus

  • @pootmcgoot5458
    @pootmcgoot5458 8 місяців тому +5

    sykes picot was the sudden factor

  • @joynal_dev
    @joynal_dev 5 місяців тому

    Hi, do you upload these on any other audio only platforms? more would listen to these episodes. Also, is it possible to have these as background music free on patreon or anywhere else?

  • @nicbahtin4774
    @nicbahtin4774 8 місяців тому +1

    1:54 lol that a big hat

  • @nagillim7915
    @nagillim7915 8 місяців тому +4

    I know this is reductive and far too simplistic, but it really does sound like the religious imperative in Islam for absolute rulers is the Middle East's greatest weakness.
    When you have so many competing factions all trying to be the one person who gets to be in power, despite the fact he'll never be accepted by all of the other factions, unity and prosperity is pretty much impossible. One that basis it's more surprising the Islamic Golden Age happened than that it ended.
    I guess the rest of humanity is lucky that Muhammed didn't instruct his followers to implement corporatism or oligarchy or some other form of rule by coalition and went the autocracy route, thereby dooming them to factional in-fighting for centuries after the deaths of his direct inheritors.

    • @samuall-gl4vt
      @samuall-gl4vt 8 місяців тому

      This is a ridiculous claim in my opinion. The reasons the islamic empires fell are the same reasons for the fall of any empire : weak leadership leading to new usurpers, wether governors or officiers et, to rebell or form their own sepratist state, oppurtinist inciting civil strife, corruption.. Etc etc. Relegion or not it's almost the same every time

  • @tombogan03884
    @tombogan03884 8 місяців тому +4

    Read some history.
    The first recorded battles, Hattin, and Kadesh, happened right there.
    The Eurasian land mass has never been together They have been at each others throats since the beginning of civilization.

  • @PeterLee-zn3jl
    @PeterLee-zn3jl 8 місяців тому +3

    Bloodthirsty mercenaries and clan centric rivalries...
    Oo la la

  • @grahamstrouse1165
    @grahamstrouse1165 8 місяців тому

    So wait, when was Muhammed Ali in Albania? Was this before or after the Thriller in Manila?

  • @thispodcastisnotimportant6667
    @thispodcastisnotimportant6667 8 місяців тому +3

    Can't find anything about Bashir Shihab II being a secret Christian it seems he was openly Christian. His father was a secret Christian though.

  • @oh_rhythm
    @oh_rhythm 8 місяців тому

    the visual aspect is lacking. it's really hard to keep track and actually understand what's being said without visual aid.

  • @aron7134
    @aron7134 8 місяців тому +4

    And he did all this while being heavyweight champ?

  • @gerharddeusser9103
    @gerharddeusser9103 8 місяців тому +6

    And today they are telling us that islam means peace and that everything was peaceful until europeans arrived.....
    😇

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 8 місяців тому

      Nope only liberals say that islam is violent when it needs to be and peacful when it needs to be. Islam is more than "peace"

    • @damaskhaoula4777
      @damaskhaoula4777 8 місяців тому +1

      Oh as if europe was a peaceful place it was as bloodiest as the middel east or worst you people have the 100 years war what wars then that , it is a fact muslims were strong when they were united

  • @bakonajm1136
    @bakonajm1136 8 місяців тому +3

    please do a video on Kurdish history

  • @user-fd1mv8dl9q
    @user-fd1mv8dl9q 8 місяців тому

    When was it together?

  • @joshuajwars4271
    @joshuajwars4271 6 місяців тому +1

    Selim 3 gets thrown out and succeeded by Mustafa 4 except there's a surprise turned out Mahmoud later called as Mahmoud 2 hid in the cabinets as Mustafa 4 used the guards to kill Selim 3 but missed Mahmoud due to him not being placed in the target list Turkish slave soldiers committed the biggest blunder in history.

  • @maliktemoor2701
    @maliktemoor2701 8 місяців тому +4

    Sir you don't talk about omani sultanate colonial empire in Africa ?

    • @JabzyJoe
      @JabzyJoe  8 місяців тому +4

      Next couple episodes its discussed

    • @maliktemoor2701
      @maliktemoor2701 8 місяців тому +1

      @@JabzyJoe thankx plz talk on various smaller Arab states
      Which exist in that time

    • @Claribelle401
      @Claribelle401 8 місяців тому

      To put it bluntly, one of Africa 's greatest mistake was to trust and aligned themselves with Arabs/Muslim

  • @forgotten1s
    @forgotten1s 8 місяців тому +2

    Muhammad Ali!!! I cant think of anything besides the boxer 😫

  • @LordJudgement1818
    @LordJudgement1818 8 місяців тому +10

    It's been like this for centuries

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 8 місяців тому

      Yup just that present times there are less assassinations.

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 8 місяців тому

      Not under ottomans and others

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 8 місяців тому

      @@AY-qz3pu under the ottomans internal fighting for power in each province made as unstable as if each province was it's own country.

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 8 місяців тому

      @@puraLusa I understand but that's nothing like how the middle east is today

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 8 місяців тому

      @@AY-qz3pu half of the violence (like other places) wasn't reported, abject poverty was generally accepted by the rulling class, due to the block to the printing press iliteracy was the norm, slavery was an accepted business. The difference is that there was no internacional standard to compare and there was no internet.
      The violence and suffering was still there. But hey, let's pretend for the sake of narratives 😂

  • @vasiliualexandru4725
    @vasiliualexandru4725 8 місяців тому +4

    In all reality it is the Ottoman empire who wiped Islam

    • @AhmedHussein-sp9tq
      @AhmedHussein-sp9tq 8 місяців тому +1

      actually , as an Egyptian , I'm starting to believe in this statement

  • @nathanielzarny1176
    @nathanielzarny1176 8 місяців тому +4

    Geez albania is a tiny country, how do so many slave soldiers come from there to rule places with populations so much larger than their own?

    • @theOrionsarms
      @theOrionsarms 8 місяців тому +1

      Well not slave soldiers, but mostly mercenary, and also Albanian womens have many children in those times, so didn't matter that five boys from the same family leave the country and only two returns, those two were rich (according with local standards), and before died aford to have four wife's each and have 20 children each, half of the children were men and become mercenary, and the women married with some surviving mercenary that return from a far away campaign. So actually was a way of life that make sense, as long is a decaying empire near by, that needs mercenary from a poorer and hard-core provincial region.

  • @russianbot8423
    @russianbot8423 8 місяців тому +2

    Whoever was to blame... thank you

  • @nagillim7915
    @nagillim7915 8 місяців тому +1

    GRR Martin couldn't write this level of backstabbing and betrayal...

  • @bosbanon3452
    @bosbanon3452 8 місяців тому +2

    The Arab has lose their Indian ocean trade route to Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, and south Philippines

  • @HelloimthisguyYT
    @HelloimthisguyYT 8 місяців тому +30

    The ottomans were in decline pretty much since their peak, i guess they made too many powerful enemies

    • @otten5666
      @otten5666 8 місяців тому +41

      Ofcourse the decline comes right after the peak. If there is no decline the peak is not reached.

    • @westrim
      @westrim 8 місяців тому +25

      ​@@otten5666 I mean, you can have plateaus and mountain ranges.

    • @HelloimthisguyYT
      @HelloimthisguyYT 8 місяців тому +3

      @@otten5666 I meant they didn’t stay at their peak for long and became real reliant on anglo-frankish attempts to sustain the status quo real fast after losing tonnes of Balkan land

    • @yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571
      @yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571 8 місяців тому +10

      ​@@HelloimthisguyYTI would say that 400 years of unquestionable dominance over the Balkans is pretty long

    • @HelloimthisguyYT
      @HelloimthisguyYT 8 місяців тому +1

      @@yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571 their balkan peak was in the early to mid 1500s and they started losing Balkan lands in the late 1500s and significantly in the late 1600s to austria

  • @africandawahrevival
    @africandawahrevival 8 місяців тому +4

    More videos about wahabis please, great video 👍

  • @tarharqataseti9261
    @tarharqataseti9261 8 місяців тому +3

    The Ottomans, Khazars and the Aishmalites in no particular order!!

  • @89volvowithlazers
    @89volvowithlazers 8 місяців тому

    This period of the ottoman empire reminds me of the Austro Hungarian state just more sanguine and even more identity policy, watched 3 or 4 of your 1600 to 20th Century Africa and Middle East. Wild stuff the narrative needs to change fer sure

  • @user-dn5bi4si5w
    @user-dn5bi4si5w 8 місяців тому

    I'll bet the Mongols did a lot of damage. But you never hear about that.

  • @lenowoo
    @lenowoo 8 місяців тому

    These guy are such a good boy. . They didn't let the girls eat the biohazard

  • @jacktran7024
    @jacktran7024 8 місяців тому

    Started in 1492 when columbus discovered america and later others found ways around the M.E. to get to India.

  • @rycolligan
    @rycolligan 8 місяців тому

    TL;DR: Literally everyone.

  • @Nik-xi2ri
    @Nik-xi2ri 8 місяців тому +6

    As always, they're the victims😂

  • @bosbanon3452
    @bosbanon3452 8 місяців тому +1

    So it is Ibrahim Pasha who betrayed bdullah bin Saud

  • @vanmars5718
    @vanmars5718 8 місяців тому +3

    The middle east was always doomed to fell apart. Lands taken by christians, with major ancient indigenous Christian societies in it, always ruled by a big empire without ever having the chance to develop a unique national characteristic amd to adapt the political system of the Western countries which could provide a stable political/social life.
    The Christian states that were liberated from the Ottomans could succeed in a greater level (bad luck with thr socialistic period) since they had a national unique identity amd adopted the Western political system while thr Arabs couldn't easily done neither of these.
    Only in our days some Arab countries finally could develop a unique national identity, such as Egypt and been a bit more stable...

    • @Claribelle401
      @Claribelle401 8 місяців тому

      Egypt is not an Arab country. It is occupied by Arabs who has confiscated the history, achievements, and culture as their own.

  • @AmrGamerYT
    @AmrGamerYT 8 місяців тому

    1:24 and 3 years and France kicked out

  • @ikenwabufo8003
    @ikenwabufo8003 7 місяців тому

    When will there ever be peace in this region? None then and none till now....is it the water, the air or the people?????

  • @VergiliosSpatulas
    @VergiliosSpatulas 8 місяців тому +6

    When Islam became a thing.

    • @osmanhazan1499
      @osmanhazan1499 8 місяців тому +1

      Roman empire entered the chat

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 8 місяців тому +1

      Cry pagan

  • @fabreezethefaintinggoat5484
    @fabreezethefaintinggoat5484 8 місяців тому

    10*

  • @NikephorosCaesar
    @NikephorosCaesar 8 місяців тому +4

    When the Arabs came out of the desert

    • @user-kz3pj3rp1w
      @user-kz3pj3rp1w 7 місяців тому +1

      You mean when Alexander marched his army towards Anatolia

  • @podcastler
    @podcastler 8 місяців тому +16

    Congratulations to the Ottomans for keeping such a geography stable for so many years

  • @tariqrahman6918
    @tariqrahman6918 8 місяців тому

    Istanbul mate.

  • @mna7308
    @mna7308 8 місяців тому +2

    In ottaman era they where we'll respected now they're like dogz to west

  • @CivilizedWasteland
    @CivilizedWasteland 8 місяців тому +1

    Me, I did it.

  • @UlyssesJonah
    @UlyssesJonah 8 місяців тому +1

    In 1:38 you say Napoleon besieged Jaffa but it's actually Acre isn't it

    • @JabzyJoe
      @JabzyJoe  8 місяців тому +3

      No he sieged Jaffa as well, in early March 1799.

    • @UlyssesJonah
      @UlyssesJonah 8 місяців тому +1

      @@JabzyJoe thanks for the fast reply i wasn’t sure

  • @eliasjak
    @eliasjak 8 місяців тому

    We Moroccans we never accepted to be ruled from the outside of our kingdom

  • @leme5639
    @leme5639 8 місяців тому +2

    but but but only US had Slaves
    sarcasm

  • @alexisgateley230
    @alexisgateley230 8 місяців тому +1

    Lengthy Ottoman occupation led to the decline of Arab states and civilization.

  • @davasaurthereal4678
    @davasaurthereal4678 2 місяці тому

    Take a shot for every time you hear ‘Pasha’ (don’t)

  • @marceldavis5600
    @marceldavis5600 8 місяців тому

    Today.

  • @faruksmajlovic1689
    @faruksmajlovic1689 8 місяців тому

    na toj karti fali Španija iPortugal.

  • @paulszymanski2513
    @paulszymanski2513 8 місяців тому

    Colonialism tipped the scales of power.

  • @harukrentz435
    @harukrentz435 8 місяців тому

    Simply answer: The Ottoman. Notice that no world reknown scientist came out of muslims world after they took over?

  • @peterasp1968
    @peterasp1968 8 місяців тому +3

    After Iran fell in 642 AD

  • @vadertrap6535
    @vadertrap6535 8 місяців тому +2

    I stand by my thesis that its always the damn brits and french

  • @Grenadier311
    @Grenadier311 8 місяців тому +3

    One could say that the Mongols dismembered classical Islamic civilization centuries earlier.

    • @me_12-vw1vi
      @me_12-vw1vi 8 місяців тому +3

      not really. ottomans inherited from the last abbasid patriarch and reunited the lands. the mongols invasion was a wake up call to people of the time who were too comfortable with their numerous small divided states until city walls collapsed. the early ottoman era was impressive with taking Constantinople and pushing through europe, reuniting iraq with egypt and syria and advancing towards algeria. some people might even be grateful for mongols invasion because of the victories that came for islam after the first mongol defeat in syria

    • @Grenadier311
      @Grenadier311 8 місяців тому +2

      @@me_12-vw1vi Excellent points. The extra militarization of Islamic countries adjusting to the Mongols opened doors for greater glory. The loss of Baghdad is a sad tale, though.

  • @pierce7992
    @pierce7992 8 місяців тому +5

    I mean the ottomans army was powerful but the government was shit it fell apart from the inside out

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 8 місяців тому

      So how did it exist for so long then?

    • @pierce7992
      @pierce7992 8 місяців тому

      @@AY-qz3pu 600 years roughly

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 8 місяців тому

      @@pierce7992 which is quite long especially the fact when they were facing multiple rivals at each front let alone internal problems

    • @AY-qz3pu
      @AY-qz3pu 8 місяців тому

      @@pierce7992 also it only dissolved 100 years ago

  • @dawnfire82
    @dawnfire82 8 місяців тому +16

    Muslims. Muslims tore the Islamic world apart. Of the first four caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, and Ali), three died violently (Umar, Uthman, and Ali). Two of these (Uthman and Ali) were killed by other Muslims (including a son of the first caliph) and one (Umar) by a slave in revenge for oppression.

    • @suicasu3514
      @suicasu3514 8 місяців тому

      What do you expect from an animalistic religion

    • @GetNuked25
      @GetNuked25 8 місяців тому

      @@suicasu3514Based

    • @Grenadier311
      @Grenadier311 8 місяців тому +5

      Don't forget the Mongols.

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j 8 місяців тому

      Tell me that you cannot read history without saying that the European Berbers remain Berbers 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @kaifxaif9502
      @kaifxaif9502 8 місяців тому +1

      As if europaean didn't slaughter each others in ww1 ww2,30 years wars etc

  • @fabreezethefaintinggoat5484
    @fabreezethefaintinggoat5484 8 місяців тому +10

    amazing just how brutal and reliant on slave trade these creatures were so late ,well today as well

    • @yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571
      @yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571 8 місяців тому +2

      You are romanian

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571comentator nationality makes zero diference. Until the international trade of slaves was banned a lot of powerful people were rich cause of slave trade as it was a fast way to make fast money.

    • @mint8648
      @mint8648 8 місяців тому +6

      They didn’t rely on agricultural slavery as much as household slavery, unlike european colonies

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 8 місяців тому

      @@mint8648 mith. Galleys for example.

    • @ShubhamMishrabro
      @ShubhamMishrabro 8 місяців тому

      It continued till 20th century

  • @GetNuked25
    @GetNuked25 8 місяців тому +1

    0:55 napoleon might of been fr*nch, bvt man his takes were so based

    • @gtc239
      @gtc239 8 місяців тому

      Might have*
      Bro, imagine confusing the two 😂

    • @NetChalakwan
      @NetChalakwan 8 місяців тому +1

      He was Corsican… (lol)

    • @adventussaxonum448
      @adventussaxonum448 8 місяців тому

      Did well against Nelson and Sidney Smith, didn't get?😂

  • @catarmy7749
    @catarmy7749 8 місяців тому

    They knew we are strong that's why they tored us apart

  • @picture-perfect
    @picture-perfect 8 місяців тому

    I like the way the Sphinx of Giza (1:06) has been modelled to look European. 😂

  • @NoelCarroll-wv6qd
    @NoelCarroll-wv6qd 8 місяців тому

    Jabzy I stupidly asked you to look at doing a blog on the Turkish genocide of the Assyrian Armenian and Greek peoples. But I recently found out that your Muslim hence there's no hope of you doing such a true sad story but I will still watch your blogs because I like them

    • @JabzyJoe
      @JabzyJoe  8 місяців тому +1

      Who said I was Muslim ha?

    • @NoelCarroll-wv6qd
      @NoelCarroll-wv6qd 8 місяців тому

      @@JabzyJoe someone on line it wouldn't matter what you were but as an Irishman with Armenian blood I hoped someone would try to tell the truth about the young Turks and what they did

    • @JabzyJoe
      @JabzyJoe  8 місяців тому

      @@NoelCarroll-wv6qd well it will be covered just not in this period. It's still a 100 years before that.
      And no. I'm not Muslim.

    • @NoelCarroll-wv6qd
      @NoelCarroll-wv6qd 8 місяців тому

      @@JabzyJoe Hallelujah,lol

  • @icarus372
    @icarus372 8 місяців тому +16

    Heres the thing.
    It was always falling apart chief.

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa 8 місяців тому +2

      With the amount of internal power grabs and rebelion - its a miracle it lasted so long.

    • @mint8648
      @mint8648 8 місяців тому +4

      ⁠@@puraLusathe ottoman system was far more stable and centralized than european empires though

    • @BeedrillYanyan
      @BeedrillYanyan 8 місяців тому +3

      Maybe in the beginning, when Europe was still filled with feudal kingdoms. But whereas the Europeans centralized more and more throughout the centuries, the Ottomans did the opposite.

    • @GetNuked25
      @GetNuked25 8 місяців тому

      @@puraLusamiracle?

    • @GetNuked25
      @GetNuked25 8 місяців тому

      @@mint8648centralized on b*rbarianism? yes

  • @user-np3uh4xk7k
    @user-np3uh4xk7k 8 місяців тому

    The mongols.

  • @abelsonkalu9862
    @abelsonkalu9862 6 місяців тому

    The question is why middle east is begin to fall apart , the answer is not far fetched., But you are very intimidated to agree that your religious bigotry politics is paying back and have started to crumble unchallenged.

  • @samlazar1053
    @samlazar1053 8 місяців тому

    Greece was newer islamis.Ww1 was waged to end islam there
    And after all the decolonization muslims still have not created a
    Heaven(nation state)

  • @Khalsafauj96
    @Khalsafauj96 8 місяців тому

    Nihang singh