the leaning of the bike when changing the oil is really smart. I'm pretty new to motorcycles but I service all my cars and have done a couple oil changes on my bikes and never thought to do that. now seeing how much you got out after leaning I'm going to start doing that as part of my oil change routine thanks so much for teaching me something new love learning new techniques from people with experience. I also have a Tracer 9 GT and the oil level drops a bit when the bike is upright on its wheels as opposed to on the center stand
Thanks for your nice comment. Regarding the oil level part, yes, the oil level on many bikes will go out of the sight glass when on the side stand. Observe/check your oil level only when fully upright, as on the center stand.
Thanks for posting this. I just got a tracer 9 gt. First day out today. 130 miles. Day one oil change done! I'll be doing the Copeland Purge every oil change too :) I used yamalube for this day one oil change, but the only thing going into the bike next oil change forward is AMSOIL, as everyone should do.
I just got mine ridden a few kilometres on it (25). I did look at the oil and the level was way up, when on the stand, hence why I stumbled on your video. I was about to drain some out; mine isn’t discoloured like yours.
Also if you have issues with wind buffering- buffeting, cheep fix . Large: Puige air foil - louver. It made a difference for my hight and body position.
The deal with the T9gt looking over filled in sightglass is due to this same basic motor as previous generation (900 gt) having been canted quite a lot so much so that Yamaha deemed it necessary to put MORE oil than pre 2021 generation. LOL but they did not change the sight glass so it LOOKS overfilled if you put in the specified amount of oil...in fact from everything I can determine IF the oil is not all the way up to top of sightglass then you probably are LOW on oil! It sounds crazy I know but the previous gen 900 which sits differently in the frame takes considerably less oil than the Tracer 9Gt! SAME engine cases same sight glass but it sits less canted in the frame than this ne gen ....so much so that the oil does not have the right level in the pan if you try to run the 900s oil spec! The Tracer 9 (2021+) HAS to be as it were overfillled compared to the 2017=2020 "900" (even though the 900 was really only an 850) My advice is to put in the specified amount of oil for the '21+ model and not worry the sight glass appears overfilled ....in fact IF you start seeing the oil level in sightglass after some miles and some oil burning? I personally would add oil until it is back to the top of the sightglass .....Yes it SUCKS you can no longer eyeball correct oil fill by filling mid sightglass but this is the price we pay for Yamaha's new stiffer frame and better engine placement. The pisser is WHY didnt Yamaha explain this in the manual??? They just leave it a mystery for everyone worrying their engine is overfilled with oil! DANG Yamaha! Seriously???
I was reading in my manual that to check the oil level the bike is meant to be off any type of stand and held level? To which I thought how the heck can you do that. I’m guessing the slight tilt forward on the main stand makes no real difference? Thanks for your video
Interesting point. I guess we could block up the front wheel, on the center stand, and see if there's much difference in the window. I doubt its that critical, and a little below the high mark is better than a little above.
I also have this bike which I adore.. Re oil change I am thinking as hard as I ride the bike I should change oil every 2500 max I notice the shifting gets clunky and I suspect new oil might smooth that like it seemed to the last change. As far as filter goes I cant see any reason to change it every 2500 I mean surly a quality OEM filter can do 5k miles easily without being anywhere near getting dirty or clogged and it's not the money they are only 13 bucks it is my conscious not to just throw more and more stuff away needlessly ....reducint my "footprint" doing my part/
Wow! I’ve never seen that “lean” technique. Ive got a 2020 Tracer 900GT. I’ll be doing this service this weekend. I only have 3000 mikes, but I want to baby this motor. If I’m changing the filter, is the lean technique necessary?
I don't think it was overfilled. I picked one up on Saturday the 16th and the mechanic told me that cold oil will look perfect in the window but when its hot it will appear overfilled.
I hear what you are saying with the looks of break in oil. But break in oil is much a different composition than standard oil and for good reasons. In my opinion refilling it with fresh " break in oil" would have been a better idea. Did you get a recall notice about ECU reflash and potential throttle tube cracking ?
Read my comment below regarding "special break in oil" please. "Break in oil" is a myth in today's production vehicle world. Some aircraft engines following a rebuild and newly built custom hotrod engines utilize an oil that could maybe be termed "break in oil," but in production cars and motorcycles - it's not a thing. Really. In fact, most high performance cars now come from the factory with a full synthetic like Mobil 1. They never even have conventional oil in them.
Hello! It's probably fine. I find that they take 3 quarts of oil with a filter change, when going by the oil sight glass at least. But, you could always change the oil and refill. It's a very easy job. But, if it's the first filter removal you're going to want an oil filter wrench. The factory really screws them on there!
Do you have any opinion on doing this when your bike is filled with special break in oil? I changed my oil at 250 miles, but when I did, I noticed it had that shimmer of special oil designed for breaking the engine in. I couldn't help but wonder if I should have left it in for a full 600 miles.
Your bike wasn't filled with special break in oil, and you were fine - maybe even smart - to do it early. This break in oil thing is kind of a myth in today's world. Someone might construe conventional, "dino", oil as break in oil before a synthetic is used, but break in oil isn't used in vehicles nowadays.
Thanks. Check my other video on the CB1100. It will occur with the filter removed as well. The residual oil is sitting in the case sides and head. Can be even more in an in-line 4 bike.
When you’re breaking in a new engine, the oil gets filled with a ton of junk from the manufacturing process, as well as parts wearing in and settling. The oil after 100-200 miles is filthy, so the rationale is to change the oil early on so you don’t have all of that stuff circulating for another 500 miles.
Yes, you are right. But oil lubrication is a circular circuit and there is a oil filter on the way so all that junk is kept. I don’t mean you don’t need to do this job. I just say that from my point of view is a bit premature to this job with just 160 miles. Breaking in a new engine takes a bit more miles and working hours. Apart from that good job buddy. Try amsoil and redline oil lubricant. Since I am using that in my tracer the gearbox is really smoth
@@scotcopeland8752 Hi Scott, I take it you don’t agree with turning the engine over? I can respect your thoughts, I have found it to produce more oil so it clearly isn’t running without lubricants and probably more than an engine that’s stood for a few days or more.
the leaning of the bike when changing the oil is really smart. I'm pretty new to motorcycles but I service all my cars and have done a couple oil changes on my bikes and never thought to do that. now seeing how much you got out after leaning I'm going to start doing that as part of my oil change routine thanks so much for teaching me something new love learning new techniques from people with experience. I also have a Tracer 9 GT and the oil level drops a bit when the bike is upright on its wheels as opposed to on the center stand
Thanks for your nice comment. Regarding the oil level part, yes, the oil level on many bikes will go out of the sight glass when on the side stand. Observe/check your oil level only when fully upright, as on the center stand.
Thanks for posting this. I just got a tracer 9 gt. First day out today. 130 miles. Day one oil change done! I'll be doing the Copeland Purge every oil change too :) I used yamalube for this day one oil change, but the only thing going into the bike next oil change forward is AMSOIL, as everyone should do.
I just got mine ridden a few kilometres on it (25). I did look at the oil and the level was way up, when on the stand, hence why I stumbled on your video. I was about to drain some out; mine isn’t discoloured like yours.
Yer I love my Tracer 9 GT too got mine in Tech Kamo colour and I got it lowered and its amazing.
Also if you have issues with wind buffering- buffeting, cheep fix .
Large: Puige air foil - louver.
It made a difference for my hight and body position.
The deal with the T9gt looking over filled in sightglass is due to this same basic motor as previous generation (900 gt) having been canted quite a lot so much so that Yamaha deemed it necessary to put MORE oil than pre 2021 generation. LOL but they did not change the sight glass so it LOOKS overfilled if you put in the specified amount of oil...in fact from everything I can determine IF the oil is not all the way up to top of sightglass then you probably are LOW on oil! It sounds crazy I know but the previous gen 900 which sits differently in the frame takes considerably less oil than the Tracer 9Gt! SAME engine cases same sight glass but it sits less canted in the frame than this ne gen ....so much so that the oil does not have the right level in the pan if you try to run the 900s oil spec! The Tracer 9 (2021+) HAS to be as it were overfillled compared to the 2017=2020 "900" (even though the 900 was really only an 850) My advice is to put in the specified amount of oil for the '21+ model and not worry the sight glass appears overfilled ....in fact IF you start seeing the oil level in sightglass after some miles and some oil burning? I personally would add oil until it is back to the top of the sightglass .....Yes it SUCKS you can no longer eyeball correct oil fill by filling mid sightglass but this is the price we pay for Yamaha's new stiffer frame and better engine placement. The pisser is WHY didnt Yamaha explain this in the manual??? They just leave it a mystery for everyone worrying their engine is overfilled with oil! DANG Yamaha! Seriously???
Good to know, thanks. I will always measure the right amount in a measuring cup.
Hope to see more Tracer content! Are you planning on getting a top case?
Not planning on a top case soon, but they look good on this bike. I don't use the saddlebags full-time either. I have another video coming.
This bike is now using 10W-40 Amsoil
I was reading in my manual that to check the oil level the bike is meant to be off any type of stand and held level? To which I thought how the heck can you do that. I’m guessing the slight tilt forward on the main stand makes no real difference? Thanks for your video
Interesting point. I guess we could block up the front wheel, on the center stand, and see if there's much difference in the window. I doubt its that critical, and a little below the high mark is better than a little above.
I also have this bike which I adore.. Re oil change I am thinking as hard as I ride the bike I should change oil every 2500 max I notice the shifting gets clunky and I suspect new oil might smooth that like it seemed to the last change. As far as filter goes I cant see any reason to change it every 2500 I mean surly a quality OEM filter can do 5k miles easily without being anywhere near getting dirty or clogged and it's not the money they are only 13 bucks it is my conscious not to just throw more and more stuff away needlessly ....reducint my "footprint" doing my part/
Unless you are doing near track day level hard riding I'd stick to what the book says. 6k. Maybe 4500 if you want to put your mind at ease.
Wow! I’ve never seen that “lean” technique. Ive got a 2020 Tracer 900GT. I’ll be doing this service this weekend. I only have 3000 mikes, but I want to baby this motor. If I’m changing the filter, is the lean technique necessary?
See the other Tracer video on this channel.
So, the answer was"yes". Thank you!
I don't think it was overfilled. I picked one up on Saturday the 16th and the mechanic told me that cold oil will look perfect in the window but when its hot it will appear overfilled.
I hear what you are saying with the looks of break in oil. But break in oil is much a different composition than standard oil and for good reasons.
In my opinion refilling it with fresh " break in oil" would have been a better idea.
Did you get a recall notice about ECU reflash and potential throttle tube cracking ?
Read my comment below regarding "special break in oil" please. "Break in oil" is a myth in today's production vehicle world. Some aircraft engines following a rebuild and newly built custom hotrod engines utilize an oil that could maybe be termed "break in oil," but in production cars and motorcycles - it's not a thing. Really.
In fact, most high performance cars now come from the factory with a full synthetic like Mobil 1. They never even have conventional oil in them.
The oil level on my Tracer is crammed full. I checked it both cold and after ignition. what do you suggest me? greetings from Italy
Hello! It's probably fine. I find that they take 3 quarts of oil with a filter change, when going by the oil sight glass at least. But, you could always change the oil and refill. It's a very easy job. But, if it's the first filter removal you're going to want an oil filter wrench. The factory really screws them on there!
Do you have any opinion on doing this when your bike is filled with special break in oil?
I changed my oil at 250 miles, but when I did, I noticed it had that shimmer of special oil designed for breaking the engine in.
I couldn't help but wonder if I should have left it in for a full 600 miles.
Your bike wasn't filled with special break in oil, and you were fine - maybe even smart - to do it early. This break in oil thing is kind of a myth in today's world. Someone might construe conventional, "dino", oil as break in oil before a synthetic is used, but break in oil isn't used in vehicles nowadays.
The filter was doing its job. No need to change the oil that early just because "ew, ew" it wasn't clear anymore.
no need to understand, just change it on time
4:50 I think that oil comes from the oil filter
Thanks. Check my other video on the CB1100. It will occur with the filter removed as well. The residual oil is sitting in the case sides and head. Can be even more in an in-line 4 bike.
Does the center stand mess up the garage floor?
Nope
Why do you change the oil with just 160 miles? I thought to upgrade the oil quality but still using yamalube.
When you’re breaking in a new engine, the oil gets filled with a ton of junk from the manufacturing process, as well as parts wearing in and settling.
The oil after 100-200 miles is filthy, so the rationale is to change the oil early on so you don’t have all of that stuff circulating for another 500 miles.
Yes, you are right. But oil lubrication is a circular circuit and there is a oil filter on the way so all that junk is kept. I don’t mean you don’t need to do this job. I just say that from my point of view is a bit premature to this job with just 160 miles. Breaking in a new engine takes a bit more miles and working hours. Apart from that good job buddy. Try amsoil and redline oil lubricant. Since I am using that in my tracer the gearbox is really smoth
I will add your technique to mine, start the engine for a few seconds and leaving it overnight too. Thank you!
I definitely don't agree with that comment if I'm reading you correctly.
@@scotcopeland8752
Hi Scott, I take it you don’t agree with turning the engine over? I can respect your thoughts, I have found it to produce more oil so it clearly isn’t running without lubricants and probably more than an engine that’s stood for a few days or more.