From my observation, Godzilla and Mothra share the mantle quite accurately as "King" and "Queen". Mothra as Queen, shields, protects, and nurtures those under their charge, while Godzilla as King charges the battlefield to deal with the source of the trouble directly. Queen and King, Shield and Sword/Axe/Spear
Shimu froze the entire planet. By power alone, she is the Most Powerful and could have been the Alpha of all Monsters but she is docile in nature so she is happy to just help to ensure balance and harmony like Mothra.
Same with Kong he has no desire to rule surface earth and resides in Hollow Earth I really hope they give Kong his lightning powers in one of these films like the original series so he can be at his full power level
Shimu caused the ice age, an era that the Earth naturally survived and returned from. But Ghidorah’s presence alone caused hurricanes, storms, lighting and thunderstorms that caused damage to the surrounding area as well as destroying Skull Island. I feel this alone makes him the most powerful titan to ever exist, despite him not being from Earth
@@ramesesrommella.macatol1247I don’t think anyone wanted to stop her. The titans could easily survive in a climate like that by just hibernating or roaming around like nothing. These titans are ancient and are probably used to the various climate changes the earth goes through either through natural means or a titan
Powerful? Yes Strongest? No Godzilla is always the king since ancient because the reason most of titans become thinned was because Godzilla went after everything SHIMU is a benevolent one so Godzilla left her alone
I know this always ends up being a giant debate in the fandom, but…. You’re not wrong. Godzilla would have defeated King Ghidorah in the ocean. It’s his natural habitat. However KG would have won in Boston if it wasn’t for the people interfering(including the orca) and Mothra coming to his aide. Not to mention the plot armor. It is Godzilla’s story. Not likely going to die or lose for long.
Yeah until that point Godzilla really didn't bother humans too much but when we basically said oops, sorry, friendly fire. We meant to kill the three headed one. The only reason Godzilla had to go through humans was for radioactive mass.
@@elford3906 I was thinking about how this movie should have started... Like showing Earth 100,000 years ago. Right away we see Godzilla, Shimo and Mothra battling Ghidorah and Shimo does freeze him, it's a short fight. Then later the trio separate as they have done their duty but it's clear that Shimo is Godzilla's friend. As Shimo goes to his lair, the crazy apes attack her and Skar King shows up, managing to take part of a crystal from her and use it to command her. Then we see Godzilla and Mothra come by his lair and even call out to her and since she doesn't respond, they follow a trail of ice to where the apes are and then Godzilla and Mothra are ambushed by the ape army and a reluctant Shimo forceyd to attack his allies. Then Godzilla and Mothra trap them in the pit because they can't fight an army. Flash forward to today and the movie begins.
Rodan, bro wanted smoke with KG on sight, then mothra. He won’t even battle for crown, but he’s a servant but he for sure battled the queen coulda killed her if he wasn’t a little stupid
@@chef2042 0:58 ''or those who have challenged for the crown'', 6:22 ''If we are claiming that anyone who can challenge an Alpha in combat is a contender for the title though''. The big skull crawler got killed by Kong but is on here, Kamazots lost to Kong (before he's full sized) but made the list as a ''strong possibility'', Rodan having faced down Ghidorah easily reaches THAT benchmark and should have been mentioned at least. I'm not saying he became an Alpha, I'm saying he challenged to try and become one, and that by the criteria on this video he should have been mentioned, like Tiamat was. My other point was that Rodan didn't JUST bow like Scylla and the rest, he fought first and only bowed when he was defeated.
@@Chaoskingdonovan 0:58 ''or those who have challenged for the crown'', 6:22 ''If we are claiming that anyone who can challenge an Alpha in combat is a contender for the title though''. The big skull crawler got killed by Kong but is on here, Kamazots lost to Kong (before he's full sized) but made the list as a ''strong possibility'', Rodan having faced down Ghidorah easily reaches THAT benchmark and should have been mentioned at least. I'm not saying he became an Alpha, I'm saying he challenged to try and become one, and that by the criteria on this video he should have been mentioned, like Tiamat was. My other point was that Rodan didn't JUST bow like Scylla and the rest, he fought first and only bowed when he was defeated.
i know i'm late to this but i would have really liked to see godzilla and mothra share more screen time in kotm. if i remember correctly they never actually directly interacted with one another. it would have been really cool to have just one scene showing how godzilla actually respects mothra and treats her as an equal instead of their only interaction being mothra webbing up ghidora so godzilla can tackle ghidora through a building, and mothra dying to make godzilla go full thermo atomic mode. i hope she is in gxk and we get a little more of that, bc i find their relationship to be really cool, but criminally underdeveloped on screen. shes a bamf, and zilla knows it.
@@santiagoojedas8827 you said kong is the last of his alpha species im just asking what you meant. Like all the other apes arent like kong? Like hes bigger or what ? That makes him the last of his species alpha?
I wonder if scar king and shimo even heard ghidorahs alpha call? Because maybe being inside the hollow earth blocks it somehow. Or maybe ghidorahs call made scar king want to break how of the hollow earth and challenge ghidorah for rule of all. With shimo at his side he could probably take on ghidorah and win. Dream match up, shimo and rodan and scar king vs ghidorah and mechagodzilla, and the male muto. I think thats a pretty close match up.
That battle would destroy the earth and the scary thing is ghirdoira is the weakest of his species their are way more powerful siblings he had and they make him look tiny any one of them could solo earth
Kong is NOT alpha. He is strong, but he wouldn’t last seconds in the face of King Ghidorah or Shimo. Same with Mothra, she ain’t doing shit infront of even a weak titan. Scar King…he’s a whole different story.
I'm so devasted that they killed off tiamat so quickly. I thought she was a really interesting titan. While watching the movie, it felt like they were setting up Tiamat as a titan that could possibly threaten Godzilla but she got clapped in 2 seconds LMFAOOO
I don’t think some people understand titans completely, Just because you are an alpha titan doesn’t mean You are stronger than other titans for example mothra, who would get folded By Titans Like Tiamat , Alpha titans are only titans who are naturally more dominant and are leaders
Someone gets it. An Alpha Titan also wouldn't bow or even listen to another Alpha Titans alpha call like from Ghidorah, which Godzilla, Mothra and Kong wouldn't submit to.
@@endy3928 Glad we have the same opinion, and Be careful of spoilers , Some people are watching it 26th march chinese premiere, 27th and 28th march in other countries so try not to be too active on social media, don’t wanna get spoiled like GVk 😭
I mean personally I think it could be either variants, I think Godzilla is an alpha from combat since he has nothing special ( other than nuclear power but that was the bomb ) while Mothra clearly fits the Natural alpha criteria. Either could be correct
So for me i think that each group of titans could have more than one alpha even, since you need more than one alpha to have fights for leadership. Like Kong an scar kong/king for instance both could be said to be rival alphas, and one choose to fallow while the other choose to reject the call of Ghidorah. In the same way that if Godzilla had made the call kong might have choose to fallow it while Scar king/kong would choose to reject fallowing it. I would say that a alpha is just some of the top most potent members within a specific group of titans which fight over the leadership, just as the top alphas of each titan groups fight for the crown.
She is the strongest shown so far in the Monsterverse. She froze the entire planet which is the strongest monster feat ever mentioned in the Monsteverse!
im glad he mentioned the ignoring of the alpha roar that kong did. to me an alpha titan means a titan that can willfully ignore the orders of another titan. that has its plotholes like scylla and tiamat ignoring godzilla's orders. so from that i say alpha titans are titans that can willfully ignore another alpha's orders but also powerful enough to claim and keep territory
I thought the narrator just sounded like a nerd at first; then I heard him say “but which titan in the monster verse is the alpha.” Godzilla you Dingus.
Nah Skar King found that weird ass Crystal. He's not a true Alpha he just found an item that can control one. Look at how quickly she ended him once they was out of play. And she's not so much Kongs pet as she is friend. They see each other as equals.
Personally it think the Titan hierarchy goes like this 1. King of monsters ( Godzilla ) 2. Alpha titan ( muto prime ) 3. The kings generals ( rodan ) 4. Major titans ( behemoth ) 5. Titans ( Scylla ) 6. Minor titans ( frost vaark )
Pretty much Kong would fit im between a alpha and a king as he is the ruler of hollow earth but not the king of all monsters like Godzilla is and montages would have the same general ranking as goji as she’s queen of all monsters
@@Chaoskingdonovannot really, Kong really isn’t that strong tbh Rodan would beat him already because of the heat he amits and he’ll do the thing he always does first, attack. Kong’s only chance would be the axe cuz touching rodan would burn him severely, remember hie is still monke
@@Abyzzz. I don’t think so especially with both the axe and the beast glove he can easily take rodan out long is very physically strong only bieng surprised by gojirra ghidora and shimo in terms of physical raw power so with the beast glove amping it and allowing him to actually hit rodan that bird is losing in three hits long just has better feats rodan list to four blows from mothra not that mothra is weak but she isn’t even top 5 in terms of power and rodan lost pretty bad
@@Abyzzz. and this ain’t about just power rodan hasn’t defeated a alpha of any kind so dosent have the alpha call nor was he ever a leader of a group of titans but he also got humbled by both ghidora and gojirra into becoming there general that enforces there rain as king so all do rodan is above other normal titans he’s not as strong as a alpha he’s around the mutos,ion dragon and the big skull crawler in terms of power So he dosent meet any of the requirements like having beaten a alpha in a battle he’s lost to every king/queen of the monsters that we know of or have gained alpha abilities aka alpha call and resistance to it like alphas do he even submitted and listened to ghidoras alpha call stated in both the novel and movie And I get he challenged the alphas but I don’t think that should be a requirement any titan could if they wanted to
@@Chaoskingdonovan valid points, I just think that in the end Kong is still a monkey and would have a similar heat tolerance, one spark and Kong goes in flames, I wouldn’t know about the glove tho cuz I haven’t seen the movie
...You forgot two, according to the criterion: Rodan, who had the balls to try and challenge Godzilla even AFTER that arrogant lizard made an example of Monster Zero; and the Ion Dragon, who had the ADDITIONAL balls to actually go THROUGH with the challenge!
Does were ended challenges but they aren’t alpha just struburn titnans that wanted the thrown they have none they rule nor did in the past it’s like a soldier challenging a superior for there status they weren’t a alpha but want to be but were humbled quick
Rodan doesn’t count as an alpha because as we’ve seen in the 2019 movie, he’s easily swayed and constantly switches sides and just follows alpha titans. He has no strong will of his own like for example kong and mothra, who completely ignored Ghidorah’s alpha call and had wills strong enough to resist it. The fight in boston made it awfully clear too. He was the only non alpha titan out of all four of them and it showed. He got his ass handed to him by two alpha titans in one movie. First one is Ghidorah, then Mothra won against him even though he had the advantage of jumping her and catching her by surprise.
@ReyReyzzz Hey, he had the balls to go up against Ghidorah in the first place. If that isn't Alpha worthy, I dunno what is. I just really don't like that they had to make my boi Ghidorah's bitch.
@@UtahRepublican2024 by that logic, scylla should be an alpha titan too, tiamat should be as well. your logic is way too inclusive to the point that every kaiju would be eligible to be alpha since they literally fight each other all the time. the male and female muto should be alphas as well by ur logic since they fought godzilla in 2014 lol
I wouldn't consider Shimo to be an Alpha. I watched the New Empire movie and when she was free from Scar King's control she was wonder what to do now until Godzilla roar at her which I would intrepid as a command to freeze the ape that used you as a slave. If she was an Alpha she would just simply ignore that roar and high tail back to hollow earth, but she obey the command. Also she allow Kong another Alpha to ride her back to the other Kong and even allow him to stroke her which is another sign that she's not an Alpha.
Godzilla didn’t roar at her he was getting ready to blast skar king. She’s a docile titan, so I agree definitely not an Alpha titan. So it wasn’t a command at all.
I have a theory on the alpha titans. I would categorize them by Alpha Elites and Same species Alphas. • Alpha Elites would be the Alphas who can rule other species. They must be able to Enforce their rule even if they defeat an alpha titan. We can categorize this type of Alpha into 2 other categories -Born Alpha- Titans who were born into alpha status. They're commonly apex titans. Has an alpha call. Examples -Godzilla -Mothra -Combat Alphas- Titans who earn their alpha status by combat. They could get their alpha status by subjugating other titans or defeating an alpha. They're an alpha who are alpha only by respect or fear. Though defeating an alpha doesn't always automatically means that the titans who belonged to the defeated alpha would transfer to the new alpha, they must subjugate their new subjects before becoming an alpha Examples -Titanus Kongs ( Kong and skar king ) -Tiamat ( If she defeated Godzilla and subjugated the other titans ) • Same species titan. Titans who are titans in their species. Same species titans can be an alpha elite if they become a combat alpha. Doesn't have an alpha call. Examples -Muto/Muto prime -Skull crawlers/Ramarak
No, people can argue Ghidora being the strongest. And I am not just arguing it, annnd I am a real Godzilla fan. So here...Godzilla IS STRONGER THAN GHIDORA. There it is. You said no one can argue! Well I am a someone, I study the monsterverse thouroghly, and I know for a fact that Godzilla is the KING and Alpha for many reasons. His power, skills, durability and massive toughness, his atomic breath especially now with his evolved form, and He has many other powerfull titans that respect him that will answer your call. So, You are simply..wrong. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂There. I have done more than argue with you, I have given evidence as to HOW you were wrong to claim that Ghidotra is NOT the strongest. Strong? yes, Strongest, NO. NICE TRY KID.. You ride ghidoras nuts. A Ghidora nutthugger...overbiased for Ghidora. Yeah I destryed your "no one can argue that" bullshit. Get out you troll. Shit talker. Godzilla 100%
At the time yes but know both Godzilla and shimo rain over him Godzilla is stated to be 20x stronger than his nuke amped form/gvk self so he would just scale above ghidora and shimo is the one who froze ghidora so that’s that he’s still too three do
I’m a big MZ fan but I’m afraid that cause ppl only want bigger and better shimo would probably demolish the golden demise in a fight, but MZ is still the best MV villain
Rodan is a POWERFUL titan, he can cause earthquakes just from a weakly thrust of his wings. The only reason he got demolished is because he wasn't in it's primal form, he was an adult but he wasn't fully evolved and was full of fear because of that. He knew he wasn't that strong. He could've been a good contestant of Godzilla, kong, shimo or any other titan if he was entirely evolved. He could've probably sent Godzilla flying miles back from a thrust of his wings if he was in his prime.
Doug might be the strongest titan EVER, he’s just a baby, and do you guys remember when Kong and mini Kong were walking on the giant skeleton? That skeleton has the same structure as doug.
What about Rodan? He faced down Ghidorah. Ok, he lost and bowed afterwards, but he did fight against an Alpha who briefly held the 'Crown', so he should be on the list!
Rodan is not an Alpha Titan💀An Alpha Titan wouldn't wouldn't bow even if they were defeated or respond to his Alpha Call, which Godzilla, Mothra and Kong didn't do. So nah, he isn't. Just a titan that force to be reckoned with, Tiamat is a good example.
@@endy3928in the video he said ''any that challenge an Alpha'' could be considered one too. Rodan challenged both Mothra and Ghidorah, and he attacked Godzilla at one point didn't he? Rodan also didn't respond to the call, he fought first after the humans woke him up. Tiamat was mentioned on this list wasn't she?!
@@Chaoskingdonovan0:58 ''or those who have challenged for the crown'', 6:22 ''If we are claiming that anyone who can challenge an Alpha in combat is a contender for the title though''. The big skull crawler got killed by Kong but is on here, Kamazots lost to Kong (before he's full sized) but made the list as a ''strong possibility'', Rodan having faced down Ghidorah easily reaches THAT benchmark and should have been mentioned at least. I'm not saying he became an Alpha, I'm saying he challenged to try and become one, and that by the criteria on this video he should have been mentioned, like Tiamat was. My other point was that Rodan didn't JUST bow like Scylla and the rest, he fought first and only bowed when he was defeated.
I believe that Shimo and Ghidorah are both S tier titans in the monsterverse. Godzilla, MechaGodzilla, and Kong are all A tier titans. Scar King and the M.U.T.O.s are both B tier titans. Rodan, Scylla, Behemoth, Tiamat, Mega Skull Crawler, Warbat, and Mothra are all C tier titans. And then Suko, Doug, Skull Crawler, and Wart Dog are all D tier titans. And then the Hell Hawks are F tier titans.
Oh my, you could not be more wrong about Mothra. She is S Class. She is the one who through her vast intellect and telepathic abilities, manipulates Godzilla and now maybe even Kong, to take down her opponents. She wields power in a distinctly feminine way and gets big bruisers to do her dirty work for her.
@allankolenovsky7028 so your argument is that Mothra is an S tier because she has the ability to influence Godzilla and maybe a little bit Kong. Okay, well, my counter argument to that is that Godzilla nor Kong are S tier titans themselves. The only way that Godzilla can defeat Ghidorah is by turning into Fire Godzilla. Not even a supercharged Godzilla was able to defeat Ghidorah. And also, the only way that Godzilla stood any chance against Shimo, is if he becomes evolved Godzilla. Therefore, Godzilla has to power up significantly just to defeat these true S tier titans. Also, Mothra has already gone up against an S tier titan, she went up against Ghidorah and he one shot killed her.
@@StudentDriver2025 You are VASTLY underestimating just how potent her intelligence and telepathic abilities are. You also seem to be focusing solely on physical prowess as a sole measure for power. If we could go back to the start of the 17th Century, I'd be very much interested in seeing how you would faire telling Queen Elizabeth that she is not powerful because she is physically weak. Mothra sacrificed herself to save Godzilla in KOTM because the idiot humans reduced her options down to one by preventing Godzilla from getting the kill-shot on Ghidora when he had him in the water. And yes, Godzilla would have ended it all right then and there when he had Ghidora in the water. Shimo was never really the problem. Skar King was because he could control Shimo. Without any means of controlling Shimo, Mothra could have easily pacified her. Kong did just that all by himself by....being Kong (he's one really big and REALLY nice monkey). Now he has a big happy puppy.
I loved this movie. the G-MAN continued to have that black air force energy. The pertaining to SHIMU i thought it was going to be a stone cold killer being controlled or not. Also they showed much love to Kong 💪🏾 he didnt seem soft this movie. I LOVE ITTTTTTTT
It is a fact. By Toho's deal, the one carry the name of "Godzilla" always win. If they want to make some of the species that lose, the name must change to either his relative (Dagon, G. Jr, etc) or other variance (Space Godzilla, Mecha Godzilla, etc)
I think Shimo and Mothra have no desire to be "King" but will put their foot down when needed, like a matronly mentality. Grandma if you will. Not necessarily because their portrayed as female but their attitude.
On a more intresting note: In the movie you see them pass a huge skelleton bridge, what yall think this creature was? Its Huge and i hope this says something about part 3!
My comment contains Spoilers. If you havent watched the movie, pls dont read it Based on the latest movie., mothra is about balance, restoration and rebirth, as a queen she also keeps Godzilla in check, since as an alpha he doesnt listen to anyone but Mothra, If you watch the latest movie youll know what i mean, while Godzilla is more about Power and strength and dominance. Thus the symbiotic relationship they have. Typical King and Queen like. Mothra is most definitely an Alpha as well. She is actually more powerful then she seems. The latest movie demonstrated a portion of that power. ❤
@@younglove3362 Nah, they are not making the MV interesting except the hollow earth, they also make G lose all the time without help, cant even get Shimo a scratch
@foundingseven7759 Ah well, go cry a river and I'll swim 🏊♂️ in your tears. Y'all always find something the b!tch about. People like you can never be pleased. It's like Y'all make it a trend to bash any, and everything. 🙄
I believe Rodan is an alpha titan... although he lost to Ghidorah, he attempted to fight one on one without hesitation after Ghidorah presented himself...only after defeat as well as perceived death of Godzilla did he bow...also in Godzilla vs Kong, there was a mention of Rodan being defeated by Godzilla showing that there was a challenge...
So. I think the general rule of “Who is an Alpha Titan” should really follow under one guideline: Did they follow the call of Ghidorah? As far as we know, only 3 Titans did not: Godzilla, Mothra, and Kong. We can’t quite count Skar King yet because we don’t know if Ghidorah’s call reached the Hollow Earth. But we could potentially count Shimo because she is being dubbed “Mother of all Titans” However, an argument could be made that she’s not because Skar King has control over her. Whether it’s mind control or it could even be that Skar King once beat Shimo in a fight. We hopefully will find out in GxK, so we technically can’t count Shimo just yet. Personally I do believe the Shimo IS an Alpha Titan being mind controlled somehow, while Skar King got his Alpha Status BECAUSE of Shimo. But if we also want to talk about who is the TRUE Alpha, then right now it’s Godzilla. In the present of the Monsterverse, there has only been 1 Alpha of Alpha’s, and that’s Godzilla. Even counting Ghidorah’s short reign.
I personally want to see the flying gojira which threatened the kongs and Godzilla(both are alpha titan) the fly gojira challenged so many Godzilla's and Kong's
I wouldn't consider MUTO prime an alpha tier kaiju. He was beating Godzilla because it is a literal anti Godzilla monster. It has his every counter built directly into it. This makes it insanely strong while fighting Godzilla specifically. One of the many MUTO abilities is to weaken, or fully shut off his atomic breath. That's why it was so weak looking in the first movie. They essentially drain his power by being next to him. I can't say it would fair as well against other titans that actually have the title. Godzilla and mothra beat Ghidorah before. I bet MUTO prime couldn't no matter who was on his team.
@zaerogartorias9890 Mutos are weak for the other titans, but super strong against the godzilla species also I think it was implies that a muto was killed by a another titan can't remember the name.
There are 5 - 6 1: godzilla 2: king ghidorah 3: mothra 4: kong New: 5: shimo Maybee: 6: scar king For muto prime yes he is the Boss muto but an alpha titan can be the alpha of EVERYONE you misunderstood an alpha titan Alpha titan is something with an alpha roar and if thats done (and the alpha before is defeated) EVERYONE does what they want
Shimu and Scar King don’t respond to Gidorah’s alpha call cuz they aren’t able to reach the surface world i.e. literally the plot of the most recent film lol
An argument can be made that mecha g in the monster verse is actually a cyborg because it uses the brain of gidorah and that his brain took over so not only might he be a cyborg but also might be gidorah in a new body
plase make in future alpha titans who fight against cosmic threats that can destroy entire universes and who are most powerful than desteoyah and bagan and space godzilla
Godzilla was overpowered and might have been ended by Shimu when she froze Godzilla and was coming close to possibly smash Godzilla. But Mothra interrupted Shimu's ice blast and Godzilla was able to break free.
After godzilla x kong, KONG AND GODZILLA are two true alpha's. Plus kong really got his whole ape kingdom AND SHIMO as his pet. SHIMO was never a alpha infact she's just a very powerful beta, now it looks like she'll be with kong for a while kong being the sole king of hollow earth and godzilla and mothra as the king and queen on surface.
My two questions have always been: How does the Monsterverse Gidorah species know about other titans being on the planet or are titans apart of every planet in the Monsterverse? Gidorah Alpha call works on every titan that isn’t an alpha but like as something not native to the planet how does he know how to participate within the ecosystem My second question is, why is Apex so far ahead of Monarch in titan research and technology 1: Monarch has been doing this for DECADE before the modern era, we are told monsterverse apex was established AFTER monarch was publicly exposed and their stance was to destroy the titans which apex didn’t want Monarch has several decades of research as a head start yet apex knew about the orca and how to weaponize it, they knew what alpha calls were and even literally built mecha Godzilla But why do they know so much more than monarch
Considering there are lot of Godzilla sub species,I think there might be stronger species of Shimo that might actually be the one that freeze Ghidorah in the past
I feel like the title of Alpha is best explained like a shiny Pokemon, like each of the Pokemon are similar with different stats and think of the Alpha being like a shiny, rare and random, but in the monsterverse sense, each of the species has once of theirs be a potential alpha, with Godzilla being a special case. The titans all have jobs, Scylla and Shimo can cool the planet, Behemoth can help Forrest’s grow, I’m guessing even Tiamat could like cause flash floods to put out Forrest fires, and Rodan could even help cause fires in case there is a section of dead Forrest that is dying due to disease or something. And the Gojira have less of an impact on nature and are more meant to keep the others ones in check, keep the metaphorical machine of nature working. However I’m guessing they had the same sort of Genetic thing the other titans have that I explained, meaning Godzilla would be the ultimate one, the Alpha of the Alphas
Godzilla is the strongest, may even be the last survivor of his species. Others are killed by MUTOs, Great Apes and probably some unknown means. Even so Godzilla seems hasn't even reached his peak potential yet. He has grown about 10 metres in height from 2014 to KotM 2019, evolved more in GxK. He also learned from past experience, as we can see he shot Ghidorah's torso instead of head like Antarctica fight, or prepare enough energy to deal with anything may pop up after a fightlike MechaGodzilla
I cant really see Mothra as an Alpha. She's not a servant but more of a partner/assistant. Godzilla is the head chef while Mothra is his sous chef. More of a beta titan
An alpha/leader doesn't have to be the strongest, he has to know how to motivate others. And Mothra knows how to manipulate Godzilla into doing what she wants. Mothra calls and Godzilla follows the call. In addition, Mothra is basically the only one with any kind of magical abilities.
Well to be fair Mothra didn't answer King Ghidorah calls because just like how Kong and Godzilla see each other, she sees every titan as her equal. Not her superiors. She may not be the strongest but she's the only titan so far who would dare to fight titans even above her power levels. She was designed that way in the old classic Toho films, she was designed that way in Monsterverse. Selfless, fearless and relentless. She acts as a shield to humanity just as Godzilla acts as a sword to avenge it. She's an Alpha Titan. Period. The Queen Of Monsters.
Rhodan didn't challenge anyone. He was trying to kill Godzilla as King Ghidorah's servant. He answered the call. Mothra and Kong didn't. They both see Godzilla as their equals. Which makes them eligible for the crown as Alpha Titans.
I would absolutely love to see the monsterverse version of batra and i hope theh keep his lore the same or similar that he is a earth protector type titan. But seeing as Godzilla alrwady hild that tittle in a way Batra most likely wont get thag role if he was evee to come to the monster verse. Over all i just want to see more bug and insect type titans
The fact that a titan can challenge the alpha means they are alpha class in my opinion which means that rodan is one ass well because he challenged godzilla at the end kotm. Just the that he can even challenge godzilla means he has the capacity to become an alpha, same goes for any other titan that has challenged the g man
My boy Rodan needs a comeback/redemption. He showed up in KOTM just to get his ass kicked by everyone.
He would have been useful in GxK.
Rodan came out of the volcano ready to fight, only he didn't think he was going to fight a 3 headed alien Titan the size of two Godzillas...😂
he lost to a moth lol
@@thefishinglor6931 Well Mothra is smart, probably the smartest Titan. Rodan was a lackey and probably fought out of fear.
@@thefishinglor6931 being able to be reborn gives you combat experience alot of it
From my observation, Godzilla and Mothra share the mantle quite accurately as "King" and "Queen". Mothra as Queen, shields, protects, and nurtures those under their charge, while Godzilla as King charges the battlefield to deal with the source of the trouble directly. Queen and King, Shield and Sword/Axe/Spear
Wow
Godzilla is not clapping a moth bruh
@@fire7624that’s not what he’s saying at all
@@fire7624game is game👀.
joke
@@i_existrandomly bruh are you trying to say mothra is playing with godzillas stick like it’s a video game controller💀💀
Shimu froze the entire planet. By power alone, she is the Most Powerful and could have been the Alpha of all Monsters but she is docile in nature so she is happy to just help to ensure balance and harmony like Mothra.
Same with Kong he has no desire to rule surface earth and resides in Hollow Earth I really hope they give Kong his lightning powers in one of these films like the original series so he can be at his full power level
Shimu caused the ice age, an era that the Earth naturally survived and returned from. But Ghidorah’s presence alone caused hurricanes, storms, lighting and thunderstorms that caused damage to the surrounding area as well as destroying Skull Island. I feel this alone makes him the most powerful titan to ever exist, despite him not being from Earth
@@je2409 The thing is Ghidorah is capable but his attempt was foiled. Shimu froze the entire planet but no one was able to stop her.
@@ramesesrommella.macatol1247I don’t think anyone wanted to stop her. The titans could easily survive in a climate like that by just hibernating or roaming around like nothing. These titans are ancient and are probably used to the various climate changes the earth goes through either through natural means or a titan
Powerful? Yes
Strongest? No
Godzilla is always the king since ancient because the reason most of titans become thinned was because Godzilla went after everything
SHIMU is a benevolent one so Godzilla left her alone
In King of the Monsters, Gman would have killed Ghidorah in the ocean if not for the oxygen destroyer
I know this always ends up being a giant debate in the fandom, but….
You’re not wrong. Godzilla would have defeated King Ghidorah in the ocean. It’s his natural habitat.
However KG would have won in Boston if it wasn’t for the people interfering(including the orca) and Mothra coming to his aide. Not to mention the plot armor. It is Godzilla’s story. Not likely going to die or lose for long.
Yeah until that point Godzilla really didn't bother humans too much but when we basically said oops, sorry, friendly fire. We meant to kill the three headed one. The only reason Godzilla had to go through humans was for radioactive mass.
And since the oxygen destroyer was used, I'm just waiting for the arrival of Destroyah
@@mUSIC0IS0GOOD maybe killing shimo for the "plot"
Shimo seems to be more of a domesticated dog than a smarter titan.
She was treated this way for many many years im sure she would of been different if she wasnt a slave to skar king.
@@elford3906 I was thinking about how this movie should have started... Like showing Earth 100,000 years ago. Right away we see Godzilla, Shimo and Mothra battling Ghidorah and Shimo does freeze him, it's a short fight. Then later the trio separate as they have done their duty but it's clear that Shimo is Godzilla's friend. As Shimo goes to his lair, the crazy apes attack her and Skar King shows up, managing to take part of a crystal from her and use it to command her. Then we see Godzilla and Mothra come by his lair and even call out to her and since she doesn't respond, they follow a trail of ice to where the apes are and then Godzilla and Mothra are ambushed by the ape army and a reluctant Shimo forceyd to attack his allies. Then Godzilla and Mothra trap them in the pit because they can't fight an army. Flash forward to today and the movie begins.
I like your idea
@@elford3906 Its her, she's a girl
Shimu is not a Alpha Titan
Rodan, bro wanted smoke with KG on sight, then mothra. He won’t even battle for crown, but he’s a servant but he for sure battled the queen coulda killed her if he wasn’t a little stupid
Rodan DID fight Ghidorah, he lost and bowed afterwards, but he did fight, so he should be on the list!
The problem with this theory, is that Rodan is considered a rouge and that he’ll fight anyone. And also acknowledged Ghidorah’s rule.
@@DraconimLthe shouldn’t he is just a burn Titan dosent make him a alpha same with skrilla in the recent film
@@chef2042 0:58 ''or those who have challenged for the crown'', 6:22 ''If we are claiming that anyone who can challenge an Alpha in combat is a contender for the title though''.
The big skull crawler got killed by Kong but is on here, Kamazots lost to Kong (before he's full sized) but made the list as a ''strong possibility'', Rodan having faced down Ghidorah easily reaches THAT benchmark and should have been mentioned at least.
I'm not saying he became an Alpha, I'm saying he challenged to try and become one, and that by the criteria on this video he should have been mentioned, like Tiamat was.
My other point was that Rodan didn't JUST bow like Scylla and the rest, he fought first and only bowed when he was defeated.
@@Chaoskingdonovan 0:58 ''or those who have challenged for the crown'', 6:22 ''If we are claiming that anyone who can challenge an Alpha in combat is a contender for the title though''.
The big skull crawler got killed by Kong but is on here, Kamazots lost to Kong (before he's full sized) but made the list as a ''strong possibility'', Rodan having faced down Ghidorah easily reaches THAT benchmark and should have been mentioned at least.
I'm not saying he became an Alpha, I'm saying he challenged to try and become one, and that by the criteria on this video he should have been mentioned, like Tiamat was.
My other point was that Rodan didn't JUST bow like Scylla and the rest, he fought first and only bowed when he was defeated.
I really like Shimo's design😭
She looks like a monster from Monster Hunter 😂
Shimo looks like one of the dragons from the movie How to Train Your Dragon. 😅
With how territorial the alphas are, and how many there seem to be, you gotta wonder what life was like back during the height of the titans
i know i'm late to this but i would have really liked to see godzilla and mothra share more screen time in kotm. if i remember correctly they never actually directly interacted with one another. it would have been really cool to have just one scene showing how godzilla actually respects mothra and treats her as an equal instead of their only interaction being mothra webbing up ghidora so godzilla can tackle ghidora through a building, and mothra dying to make godzilla go full thermo atomic mode. i hope she is in gxk and we get a little more of that, bc i find their relationship to be really cool, but criminally underdeveloped on screen. shes a bamf, and zilla knows it.
I cherish the fact spoilers/leaks have yet to reach you lol
Mothra showed the humans were to find the weakened godzilla as well.
@@solarjesus7289 I avoided them like the plague lmao I didn't even look at these replies until I saw gxk.
All of what you said happened in the new movie GxK the new empire
The species of Kong that we see in the Gxk the new empire are great apes and kong is the last of the alfa species
Wdym ? Like hes bigger than the kongs and stronger like how GodZilla is to his gojira species?
What who scar king
Bro scar king is a different we don't know what species scar king is from
Species
@@santiagoojedas8827 you said kong is the last of his alpha species im just asking what you meant. Like all the other apes arent like kong? Like hes bigger or what ? That makes him the last of his species alpha?
I wonder if scar king and shimo even heard ghidorahs alpha call? Because maybe being inside the hollow earth blocks it somehow. Or maybe ghidorahs call made scar king want to break how of the hollow earth and challenge ghidorah for rule of all. With shimo at his side he could probably take on ghidorah and win. Dream match up, shimo and rodan and scar king vs ghidorah and mechagodzilla, and the male muto. I think thats a pretty close match up.
That battle would destroy the earth and the scary thing is ghirdoira is the weakest of his species their are way more powerful siblings he had and they make him look tiny any one of them could solo earth
lol mothra deserved more than 20 seconds of info. Have some respect for the queen 🦋
Hell yeah, couldn’t have said it better myself 👏🏼👏🏼
Make one yourself-
Mothra will even challenge Godzilla if he turns evil.
I think there are currently six Alpha Titans in the Monsterverse.
1. Godzilla
2. King Ghidorah
3. Mothra
4. Kong
5. Skar King
6. Shimo
Fax(Imma wait until the movie is out to see if no.5 is or not an Alpha Titan)
It is a football
@@endy3928 The trailers imply that he is. But like you said, we’ll have to wait and see.
Kong is NOT alpha. He is strong, but he wouldn’t last seconds in the face of King Ghidorah or Shimo. Same with Mothra, she ain’t doing shit infront of even a weak titan. Scar King…he’s a whole different story.
@@znaenaeplaz5464 How? He ignored Ghidorah’s call.
I'm so devasted that they killed off tiamat so quickly. I thought she was a really interesting titan. While watching the movie, it felt like they were setting up Tiamat as a titan that could possibly threaten Godzilla but she got clapped in 2 seconds LMFAOOO
Bruh
She got 0 armor😂 so that made it easy to just death-ray her
She’s been pissing godzilla off for a long time, gman had enough of her😂
GxK whos going day one like me! (100 likes thanks guys!)
Unfortunately, not me. I work on that day. I'll be going to watch it on the Tuesday, afterwards.
I’ll be going on its release date.
@@rileyduncan3927 That's cool!
I'm unfortunately probably not gonna be able to see it first day. But I will be seeing it on the first weekend if I can help it.
I want to I really really do
I don’t think some people understand titans completely, Just because you are an alpha titan doesn’t mean You are stronger than other titans for example mothra, who would get folded By Titans Like Tiamat , Alpha titans are only titans who are naturally more dominant and are leaders
Someone gets it. An Alpha Titan also wouldn't bow or even listen to another Alpha Titans alpha call like from Ghidorah, which Godzilla, Mothra and Kong wouldn't submit to.
@@endy3928 Glad we have the same opinion, and Be careful of spoilers , Some people are watching it 26th march chinese premiere, 27th and 28th march in other countries so try not to be too active on social media, don’t wanna get spoiled like GVk 😭
I mean personally I think it could be either variants, I think Godzilla is an alpha from combat since he has nothing special ( other than nuclear power but that was the bomb ) while Mothra clearly fits the Natural alpha criteria. Either could be correct
So for me i think that each group of titans could have more than one alpha even, since you need more than one alpha to have fights for leadership. Like Kong an scar kong/king for instance both could be said to be rival alphas, and one choose to fallow while the other choose to reject the call of Ghidorah. In the same way that if Godzilla had made the call kong might have choose to fallow it while Scar king/kong would choose to reject fallowing it. I would say that a alpha is just some of the top most potent members within a specific group of titans which fight over the leadership, just as the top alphas of each titan groups fight for the crown.
Shimu so powerful as she was the one who started the first ice age and also froze Ghidorah ❤
She is the strongest shown so far in the Monsterverse. She froze the entire planet which is the strongest monster feat ever mentioned in the Monsteverse!
Yes that is true.
@@ramesesrommella.macatol1247nah Godzilla is the strongest. He hasn’t even completed his evolution in gxk. 😂
@@ramesesrommella.macatol1247 but the other titans probably dont give a f*ck about ice age at all
@@lj7005 do you even know what Ice age? she literally froze the whole goddamn earth
I want to see Camazozt return in Godzilla X Kong The New Empire.
im glad he mentioned the ignoring of the alpha roar that kong did. to me an alpha titan means a titan that can willfully ignore the orders of another titan. that has its plotholes like scylla and tiamat ignoring godzilla's orders. so from that i say alpha titans are titans that can willfully ignore another alpha's orders but also powerful enough to claim and keep territory
Mothra is 1 tough cookie ,we need mothra movie
Lmao Doug is an Alpha
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Man, the Monsterverse is so fascinating!
Godzilla vs King Kong is the same as Batman v Superman.
The only difference is that Superman was killed after two movies, and Godzilla and Kong both lived.
@@rileyduncan3927Also Godzilla vs Kong is a better than Batman vs Superman
@@austinforgie1069 Couldn’t agree more.
Save Mothra
I thought the narrator just sounded like a nerd at first; then I heard him say “but which titan in the monster verse is the alpha.”
Godzilla you Dingus.
After watching the newest movie today. Shimo ain't no alpha. Folks was scar king slave then became Kong's pet
she dominated Godzilla in ancient times and froze ghidorah, novel
Nah Skar King found that weird ass Crystal. He's not a true Alpha he just found an item that can control one. Look at how quickly she ended him once they was out of play. And she's not so much Kongs pet as she is friend. They see each other as equals.
@ she's kong's lil German shepherd
Personally it think the Titan hierarchy goes like this
1. King of monsters ( Godzilla )
2. Alpha titan ( muto prime )
3. The kings generals ( rodan )
4. Major titans ( behemoth )
5. Titans ( Scylla )
6. Minor titans ( frost vaark )
Pretty much Kong would fit im between a alpha and a king as he is the ruler of hollow earth but not the king of all monsters like Godzilla is and montages would have the same general ranking as goji as she’s queen of all monsters
@@Chaoskingdonovannot really, Kong really isn’t that strong tbh Rodan would beat him already because of the heat he amits and he’ll do the thing he always does first, attack. Kong’s only chance would be the axe cuz touching rodan would burn him severely, remember hie is still monke
@@Abyzzz. I don’t think so especially with both the axe and the beast glove he can easily take rodan out long is very physically strong only bieng surprised by gojirra ghidora and shimo in terms of physical raw power so with the beast glove amping it and allowing him to actually hit rodan that bird is losing in three hits long just has better feats rodan list to four blows from mothra not that mothra is weak but she isn’t even top 5 in terms of power and rodan lost pretty bad
@@Abyzzz. and this ain’t about just power rodan hasn’t defeated a alpha of any kind so dosent have the alpha call nor was he ever a leader of a group of titans but he also got humbled by both ghidora and gojirra into becoming there general that enforces there rain as king so all do rodan is above other normal titans he’s not as strong as a alpha he’s around the mutos,ion dragon and the big skull crawler in terms of power
So he dosent meet any of the requirements like having beaten a alpha in a battle he’s lost to every king/queen of the monsters that we know of or have gained alpha abilities aka alpha call and resistance to it like alphas do he even submitted and listened to ghidoras alpha call stated in both the novel and movie
And I get he challenged the alphas but I don’t think that should be a requirement any titan could if they wanted to
@@Chaoskingdonovan valid points, I just think that in the end Kong is still a monkey and would have a similar heat tolerance, one spark and Kong goes in flames, I wouldn’t know about the glove tho cuz I haven’t seen the movie
I love learning about these beast
The more I learn about Kong the more he take the place as my favorite
...You forgot two, according to the criterion: Rodan, who had the balls to try and challenge Godzilla even AFTER that arrogant lizard made an example of Monster Zero; and the Ion Dragon, who had the ADDITIONAL balls to actually go THROUGH with the challenge!
Does were ended challenges but they aren’t alpha just struburn titnans that wanted the thrown they have none they rule nor did in the past it’s like a soldier challenging a superior for there status they weren’t a alpha but want to be but were humbled quick
Rodan doesn’t count as an alpha because as we’ve seen in the 2019 movie, he’s easily swayed and constantly switches sides and just follows alpha titans. He has no strong will of his own like for example kong and mothra, who completely ignored Ghidorah’s alpha call and had wills strong enough to resist it.
The fight in boston made it awfully clear too. He was the only non alpha titan out of all four of them and it showed.
He got his ass handed to him by two alpha titans in one movie. First one is Ghidorah, then Mothra won against him even though he had the advantage of jumping her and catching her by surprise.
@ReyReyzzz Hey, he had the balls to go up against Ghidorah in the first place. If that isn't Alpha worthy, I dunno what is. I just really don't like that they had to make my boi Ghidorah's bitch.
@@UtahRepublican2024 by that logic, scylla should be an alpha titan too, tiamat should be as well. your logic is way too inclusive to the point that every kaiju would be eligible to be alpha since they literally fight each other all the time. the male and female muto should be alphas as well by ur logic since they fought godzilla in 2014 lol
@@ReyReyzzz Scylla? Fuck no, no way a spider's being allowed up there. Tiamat...maaaaybe.
Oh poor tiamut Godzilla walks into his crib and says leave or death proceeds to get lazered into chunks
I wouldn't consider Shimo to be an Alpha. I watched the New Empire movie and when she was free from Scar King's control she was wonder what to do now until Godzilla roar at her which I would intrepid as a command to freeze the ape that used you as a slave. If she was an Alpha she would just simply ignore that roar and high tail back to hollow earth, but she obey the command. Also she allow Kong another Alpha to ride her back to the other Kong and even allow him to stroke her which is another sign that she's not an Alpha.
Shimo literally doesn’t like to fight and is now kings pet
@@ForsakenrulerUnlike how Skar King treated her Kong is going to treat her nicely with care.
Godzilla didn’t roar at her he was getting ready to blast skar king. She’s a docile titan, so I agree definitely not an Alpha titan. So it wasn’t a command at all.
Kong rode godzilla too
Shimo is super old and wise
Destroyah is the bane of Godzilla's existence
I have a theory on the alpha titans.
I would categorize them by Alpha Elites and Same species Alphas.
• Alpha Elites would be the Alphas who can rule other species. They must be able to Enforce their rule even if they defeat an alpha titan.
We can categorize this type of Alpha into 2 other categories
-Born Alpha- Titans who were born into alpha status. They're commonly apex titans. Has an alpha call.
Examples
-Godzilla
-Mothra
-Combat Alphas- Titans who earn their alpha status by combat. They could get their alpha status by subjugating other titans or defeating an alpha. They're an alpha who are alpha only by respect or fear. Though defeating an alpha doesn't always automatically means that the titans who belonged to the defeated alpha would transfer to the new alpha, they must subjugate their new subjects before becoming an alpha
Examples
-Titanus Kongs ( Kong and skar king )
-Tiamat ( If she defeated Godzilla and subjugated the other titans )
• Same species titan. Titans who are titans in their species. Same species titans can be an alpha elite if they become a combat alpha. Doesn't have an alpha call.
Examples
-Muto/Muto prime
-Skull crawlers/Ramarak
Ghidorah is the strongest hands down.. No one can argue about that.
Real godzilla fans will agree. Respect ghidorah power.
No, people can argue Ghidora being the strongest. And I am not just arguing it, annnd I am a real Godzilla fan. So here...Godzilla IS STRONGER THAN GHIDORA. There it is. You said no one can argue! Well I am a someone, I study the monsterverse thouroghly, and I know for a fact that Godzilla is the KING and Alpha for many reasons. His power, skills, durability and massive toughness, his atomic breath especially now with his evolved form, and He has many other powerfull titans that respect him that will answer your call. So, You are simply..wrong. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂There. I have done more than argue with you, I have given evidence as to HOW you were wrong to claim that Ghidotra is NOT the strongest. Strong? yes, Strongest, NO. NICE TRY KID.. You ride ghidoras nuts. A Ghidora nutthugger...overbiased for Ghidora. Yeah I destryed your "no one can argue that" bullshit. Get out you troll. Shit talker. Godzilla 100%
At the time yes but know both Godzilla and shimo rain over him Godzilla is stated to be 20x stronger than his nuke amped form/gvk self so he would just scale above ghidora and shimo is the one who froze ghidora so that’s that he’s still too three do
I’m a big MZ fan but I’m afraid that cause ppl only want bigger and better shimo would probably demolish the golden demise in a fight, but MZ is still the best MV villain
Yet Godzilla use his head as a cigar 🤣🤣
When Godzilla was down, Link came and took down Ghidorah.
"just a big Gleok." Is what he said. 😂
Rodan is an under rated Titan, IMO. His fight scene during KOTM was amazing!
Rodan is a POWERFUL titan, he can cause earthquakes just from a weakly thrust of his wings. The only reason he got demolished is because he wasn't in it's primal form, he was an adult but he wasn't fully evolved and was full of fear because of that. He knew he wasn't that strong. He could've been a good contestant of Godzilla, kong, shimo or any other titan if he was entirely evolved. He could've probably sent Godzilla flying miles back from a thrust of his wings if he was in his prime.
Doug might be the strongest titan EVER, he’s just a baby, and do you guys remember when Kong and mini Kong were walking on the giant skeleton? That skeleton has the same structure as doug.
What about Rodan? He faced down Ghidorah. Ok, he lost and bowed afterwards, but he did fight against an Alpha who briefly held the 'Crown', so he should be on the list!
Yea fax
Rodan is not an Alpha Titan💀An Alpha Titan wouldn't wouldn't bow even if they were defeated or respond to his Alpha Call, which Godzilla, Mothra and Kong didn't do. So nah, he isn't. Just a titan that force to be reckoned with, Tiamat is a good example.
@@endy3928in the video he said ''any that challenge an Alpha'' could be considered one too. Rodan challenged both Mothra and Ghidorah, and he attacked Godzilla at one point didn't he?
Rodan also didn't respond to the call, he fought first after the humans woke him up.
Tiamat was mentioned on this list wasn't she?!
@@DraconimLthe did follow the call he got beat before ghidora could make the call so your arguments false
@@Chaoskingdonovan0:58 ''or those who have challenged for the crown'', 6:22 ''If we are claiming that anyone who can challenge an Alpha in combat is a contender for the title though''.
The big skull crawler got killed by Kong but is on here, Kamazots lost to Kong (before he's full sized) but made the list as a ''strong possibility'', Rodan having faced down Ghidorah easily reaches THAT benchmark and should have been mentioned at least.
I'm not saying he became an Alpha, I'm saying he challenged to try and become one, and that by the criteria on this video he should have been mentioned, like Tiamat was.
My other point was that Rodan didn't JUST bow like Scylla and the rest, he fought first and only bowed when he was defeated.
Do you think we'll see a modern adaptation of space Godzilla at any point or destroyer like they set up in King of the monsters
Shimo is more of a protector than a destroyer.
The Rival Great Ape that defeated Godzilla out of his lair.
Cute Godzilla is Everything I need❤👊🌟✨
You forgot the two most powerful Titans: Jet Jaguar and King Caesar.
0 iq moment
I believe that Shimo and Ghidorah are both S tier titans in the monsterverse. Godzilla, MechaGodzilla, and Kong are all A tier titans. Scar King and the M.U.T.O.s are both B tier titans. Rodan, Scylla, Behemoth, Tiamat, Mega Skull Crawler, Warbat, and Mothra are all C tier titans. And then Suko, Doug, Skull Crawler, and Wart Dog are all D tier titans. And then the Hell Hawks are F tier titans.
Oh my, you could not be more wrong about Mothra. She is S Class. She is the one who through her vast intellect and telepathic abilities, manipulates Godzilla and now maybe even Kong, to take down her opponents. She wields power in a distinctly feminine way and gets big bruisers to do her dirty work for her.
@allankolenovsky7028 so your argument is that Mothra is an S tier because she has the ability to influence Godzilla and maybe a little bit Kong. Okay, well, my counter argument to that is that Godzilla nor Kong are S tier titans themselves. The only way that Godzilla can defeat Ghidorah is by turning into Fire Godzilla. Not even a supercharged Godzilla was able to defeat Ghidorah. And also, the only way that Godzilla stood any chance against Shimo, is if he becomes evolved Godzilla. Therefore, Godzilla has to power up significantly just to defeat these true S tier titans. Also, Mothra has already gone up against an S tier titan, she went up against Ghidorah and he one shot killed her.
@@StudentDriver2025 You are VASTLY underestimating just how potent her intelligence and telepathic abilities are. You also seem to be focusing solely on physical prowess as a sole measure for power. If we could go back to the start of the 17th Century, I'd be very much interested in seeing how you would faire telling Queen Elizabeth that she is not powerful because she is physically weak. Mothra sacrificed herself to save Godzilla in KOTM because the idiot humans reduced her options down to one by preventing Godzilla from getting the kill-shot on Ghidora when he had him in the water. And yes, Godzilla would have ended it all right then and there when he had Ghidora in the water. Shimo was never really the problem. Skar King was because he could control Shimo. Without any means of controlling Shimo, Mothra could have easily pacified her. Kong did just that all by himself by....being Kong (he's one really big and REALLY nice monkey). Now he has a big happy puppy.
@@StudentDriver2025Mothra struggled against Rodan and got one shotted by Ghidorah I promise you she is not S tier at all
@@Kai-ky1gz tell that to @allankolenovsky7028
I loved this movie. the G-MAN continued to have that black air force energy. The pertaining to SHIMU i thought it was going to be a stone cold killer being controlled or not. Also they showed much love to Kong 💪🏾 he didnt seem soft this movie. I LOVE ITTTTTTTT
nikka what? black what? lol
I think that true alpha of the monster verse is godzilla ng and the queen of the monster mothra and king kong❤😊
It is a fact. By Toho's deal, the one carry the name of "Godzilla" always win. If they want to make some of the species that lose, the name must change to either his relative (Dagon, G. Jr, etc) or other variance (Space Godzilla, Mecha Godzilla, etc)
I think Shimo and Mothra have no desire to be "King" but will put their foot down when needed, like a matronly mentality. Grandma if you will. Not necessarily because their portrayed as female but their attitude.
On a more intresting note: In the movie you see them pass a huge skelleton bridge, what yall think this creature was? Its Huge and i hope this says something about part 3!
TEAM MOTHRA!
5:17 this Scar King looks a lot better and more badass and would’ve looked great if this was the Scar King we got tbh
My comment contains Spoilers. If you havent watched the movie, pls dont read it
Based on the latest movie., mothra is about balance, restoration and rebirth, as a queen she also keeps Godzilla in check, since as an alpha he doesnt listen to anyone but Mothra, If you watch the latest movie youll know what i mean, while Godzilla is more about Power and strength and dominance. Thus the symbiotic relationship they have. Typical King and Queen like. Mothra is most definitely an Alpha as well. She is actually more powerful then she seems. The latest movie demonstrated a portion of that power. ❤
Sadly Shimu is just like a Pet. Hollywood always disappoint me SMH
That happens in the comics too they actually followed source material this time
Or you just like to find things to complain about. The titan verse has been doing a good job so far
@@younglove3362 Nah, they are not making the MV interesting except the hollow earth, they also make G lose all the time without help, cant even get Shimo a scratch
@foundingseven7759
Ah well, go cry a river and I'll swim 🏊♂️ in your tears. Y'all always find something the b!tch about. People like you can never be pleased. It's like Y'all make it a trend to bash any, and everything. 🙄
Kong is new alpha imo .. he’s already shown to be able to ko Godzilla, but now he has entire kong army + shimo
Ghidorah is a creature of nightmares
Remember... some Titans have a potential to become an Alpha Titans
3:13 2017? KOTM came in 2019. Is it an in-movie timeline?
I believe Rodan is an alpha titan... although he lost to Ghidorah, he attempted to fight one on one without hesitation after Ghidorah presented himself...only after defeat as well as perceived death of Godzilla did he bow...also in Godzilla vs Kong, there was a mention of Rodan being defeated by Godzilla showing that there was a challenge...
Alpha Titan bows no one
Scar king was also trapped down in the hallow earth might be a reason why he didn’t listen to the calling
So. I think the general rule of “Who is an Alpha Titan” should really follow under one guideline:
Did they follow the call of Ghidorah? As far as we know, only 3 Titans did not: Godzilla, Mothra, and Kong. We can’t quite count Skar King yet because we don’t know if Ghidorah’s call reached the Hollow Earth. But we could potentially count Shimo because she is being dubbed “Mother of all Titans” However, an argument could be made that she’s not because Skar King has control over her. Whether it’s mind control or it could even be that Skar King once beat Shimo in a fight. We hopefully will find out in GxK, so we technically can’t count Shimo just yet. Personally I do believe the Shimo IS an Alpha Titan being mind controlled somehow, while Skar King got his Alpha Status BECAUSE of Shimo.
But if we also want to talk about who is the TRUE Alpha, then right now it’s Godzilla. In the present of the Monsterverse, there has only been 1 Alpha of Alpha’s, and that’s Godzilla. Even counting Ghidorah’s short reign.
Rodan didn't follow the call too. He fought KG and lost
Rodan also should be a contender, he chalanged king ghidorad
Shimo isnt an Alpha Titan. Shes too docile
is it me or is there an audio skip at 5:45
I personally want to see the flying gojira which threatened the kongs and Godzilla(both are alpha titan) the fly gojira challenged so many Godzilla's and Kong's
I wouldn't consider MUTO prime an alpha tier kaiju. He was beating Godzilla because it is a literal anti Godzilla monster. It has his every counter built directly into it. This makes it insanely strong while fighting Godzilla specifically. One of the many MUTO abilities is to weaken, or fully shut off his atomic breath. That's why it was so weak looking in the first movie. They essentially drain his power by being next to him. I can't say it would fair as well against other titans that actually have the title. Godzilla and mothra beat Ghidorah before. I bet MUTO prime couldn't no matter who was on his team.
Kong can't really defeat Ghidorah either, that doesn't make him a non-Alpha.
@@niichisann Oh he definitely couldn't. I'm just saying as far as alpha class titans go MUTO prime is pretty weak.
@zaerogartorias9890 Mutos are weak for the other titans, but super strong against the godzilla species also I think it was implies that a muto was killed by a another titan can't remember the name.
There are 5 - 6
1: godzilla
2: king ghidorah
3: mothra
4: kong
New:
5: shimo
Maybee:
6: scar king
For muto prime yes he is the Boss muto but an alpha titan can be the alpha of EVERYONE
you misunderstood an alpha titan
Alpha titan is something with an alpha roar and if thats done (and the alpha before is defeated) EVERYONE does what they want
True alpha shimu
You forgot the most powerful alpha Titan. The main man Doug
Tiamut was blown up into pieces in Godzilla X Kong.
KOTM takes place In 2019. Why are people starting to say 2017?
Shimu and Scar King don’t respond to Gidorah’s alpha call cuz they aren’t able to reach the surface world i.e. literally the plot of the most recent film lol
Shimo is not an alpha titan that makes the movie clear. She don't even think to challenge godzilla for his place.
An argument can be made that mecha g in the monster verse is actually a cyborg because it uses the brain of gidorah and that his brain took over so not only might he be a cyborg but also might be gidorah in a new body
plase make in future alpha titans who fight against cosmic threats that can destroy entire universes and who are most powerful than desteoyah and bagan and space godzilla
Shimu is like a pet not an alpha
Rodan was probably the alpha titan before the godzillas and kongs got on the surface
Kinda wish there's more extraterrestial type kaiju.
Look, Godzilla is the alpha of alpha. He won against everyone.
Godzilla was overpowered and might have been ended by Shimu when she froze Godzilla and was coming close to possibly smash Godzilla. But Mothra interrupted Shimu's ice blast and Godzilla was able to break free.
Can't wait to see an updated version of King Ceasar someday
After godzilla x kong, KONG AND GODZILLA are two true alpha's. Plus kong really got his whole ape kingdom AND SHIMO as his pet. SHIMO was never a alpha infact she's just a very powerful beta, now it looks like she'll be with kong for a while kong being the sole king of hollow earth and godzilla and mothra as the king and queen on surface.
Ghidorah did not do the most damage shimo did by freezing the entire earth
godzilla, huge nucleur dinosaur, vs a bug.
Shimu is back and going to win this emo is going to win before on the work folks who is coming to freeze every single thing inside
My two questions have always been:
How does the Monsterverse Gidorah species know about other titans being on the planet or are titans apart of every planet in the Monsterverse? Gidorah Alpha call works on every titan that isn’t an alpha but like as something not native to the planet how does he know how to participate within the ecosystem
My second question is, why is Apex so far ahead of Monarch in titan research and technology
1: Monarch has been doing this for DECADE before the modern era, we are told monsterverse apex was established AFTER monarch was publicly exposed and their stance was to destroy the titans which apex didn’t want
Monarch has several decades of research as a head start yet apex knew about the orca and how to weaponize it, they knew what alpha calls were and even literally built mecha Godzilla
But why do they know so much more than monarch
Godzilla 🔥👌🏻
Considering there are lot of Godzilla sub species,I think there might be stronger species of Shimo that might actually be the one that freeze Ghidorah in the past
The novelization mentions that Shimo froze King Ghidorah.
Mothra is coming back in this new movie 😍
Rodan should have been a better Ally for Godzilla than mothra, he was really good in King of Monsters
8:01 to be fair though Godzilla was weakened from his fight with big monkeh alpha titan
I feel like the title of Alpha is best explained like a shiny Pokemon, like each of the Pokemon are similar with different stats and think of the Alpha being like a shiny, rare and random, but in the monsterverse sense, each of the species has once of theirs be a potential alpha, with Godzilla being a special case.
The titans all have jobs, Scylla and Shimo can cool the planet, Behemoth can help Forrest’s grow, I’m guessing even Tiamat could like cause flash floods to put out Forrest fires, and Rodan could even help cause fires in case there is a section of dead Forrest that is dying due to disease or something. And the Gojira have less of an impact on nature and are more meant to keep the others ones in check, keep the metaphorical machine of nature working. However I’m guessing they had the same sort of Genetic thing the other titans have that I explained, meaning Godzilla would be the ultimate one, the Alpha of the Alphas
Godzilla is the strongest, may even be the last survivor of his species. Others are killed by MUTOs, Great Apes and probably some unknown means. Even so Godzilla seems hasn't even reached his peak potential yet. He has grown about 10 metres in height from 2014 to KotM 2019, evolved more in GxK. He also learned from past experience, as we can see he shot Ghidorah's torso instead of head like Antarctica fight, or prepare enough energy to deal with anything may pop up after a fightlike MechaGodzilla
I agree with Shimo. She definitely marches to the beat of her own drum and is the strongest titan we’ve seen so far.
I cant really see Mothra as an Alpha. She's not a servant but more of a partner/assistant. Godzilla is the head chef while Mothra is his sous chef. More of a beta titan
An alpha/leader doesn't have to be the strongest, he has to know how to motivate others. And Mothra knows how to manipulate Godzilla into doing what she wants. Mothra calls and Godzilla follows the call. In addition, Mothra is basically the only one with any kind of magical abilities.
Well to be fair Mothra didn't answer King Ghidorah calls because just like how Kong and Godzilla see each other, she sees every titan as her equal. Not her superiors.
She may not be the strongest but she's the only titan so far who would dare to fight titans even above her power levels.
She was designed that way in the old classic Toho films, she was designed that way in Monsterverse. Selfless, fearless and relentless.
She acts as a shield to humanity just as Godzilla acts as a sword to avenge it. She's an Alpha Titan. Period. The Queen Of Monsters.
Shamo is the most powerful thing in the monster verse
Shima is the most powerful Titan in the monster verse even more powerful than Godzilla King Ghidorah Rodan everything I think
he was about to win before the humans intervened.
Godzilla still literally killed kong, if it weren’t for the humans that monkey would be dead
Only ape to walk up right is sasquatch. Kong is sasquatch
Mothra is to Godzilla what Scottie Pippin was to Michael Jordan.
Well wasn't Godzilla evolved from an iguana . After the nuc ?
That’s Godzilla 1998 completely a different Godzilla
So if challenging an alpha is enough to be placed on this list, then what about Rodan?
Rhodan didn't challenge anyone. He was trying to kill Godzilla as King Ghidorah's servant. He answered the call.
Mothra and Kong didn't. They both see Godzilla as their equals. Which makes them eligible for the crown as Alpha Titans.
@@adamazri928 Mind you that was after Rodan lost to Ghidorah already.
I would absolutely love to see the monsterverse version of batra and i hope theh keep his lore the same or similar that he is a earth protector type titan. But seeing as Godzilla alrwady hild that tittle in a way Batra most likely wont get thag role if he was evee to come to the monster verse. Over all i just want to see more bug and insect type titans
The fact that a titan can challenge the alpha means they are alpha class in my opinion which means that rodan is one ass well because he challenged godzilla at the end kotm. Just the that he can even challenge godzilla means he has the capacity to become an alpha, same goes for any other titan that has challenged the g man
You actually missed two Alpha Titans
1 Rodan
2 scar king