Why Was Battleship New Jersey Nicknamed the Black Dragon?
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- In this episode we're talking about some of the various call signs and nicknames that New Jersey was called during her career.
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I really like the image of a bunch of soviet military officials gathered around aerial photos of 2 swimming pools and being horrified by what new weapon capabilities the New Jersey had.
What is this "fun" you speak of, Comrade?
Ive seen documentaries of Soviet ships that had saunas in them .... Apparently a Russian thing.
You have to assume they figure out it's a pool pretty fast... and then spend a fair amount of time wondering why a battleship had a pool instead of an AA gun.
@@c.a.mcdivitt9722 Somebody in Soviet "intelligence" probably freaked out about these "Cooling ponds" on deck lol
@TheMichaelJacksonFactChannel I just imagine that it’s a room connected to the nuclear reactor
Some of my favorite ship nicknames include:
The Vengeful Sister (Pennsylvania 38)
The Lonely Queen of the North (Tirpitz)
The Grey Ghost (Enterprize 6)
The Christmas Ship (New York 34)
WeVe/Weavy (West Virginia 48)
The Black Dragon (New Jersey, obviously)
The SUS (Nickname for the USS United State supercarrier concept that got put into World of Warships)
The Chesapeake Raider (Wyoming 32)
Mobile Chornobyl (Enterprise 65)
Quarter Mile Island (Also Enterprise 65)
And we can't Forget Old Ironsides herself USS Constitution
Tirpitz was also called “The Beast” by Churchill. He disliked official Navy documents that refered her as “Admiral von Tirpitz”, saying that “Tirpitz is enough to name that brute” …
Amogus ship
The mighty T (Texas 35)
Mighty Mo
Don’t forget about Big Wisky now, heard she has a fiery temper
One nickname New Jersey had in Vietnam that I haven't heard you mention is "Lone Ranger". She was referred to by this nickname because she was the only active battleship during that period. When she was going through underway replenishment she would play the "William Tell Overature" (the theme from the Lone Ranger TV show). My uncle served aboard her as a Gunners Mate.
My cousin was a GMG1 on NJ during her 68-69 reactivation and deployment to Vietnam. I believe in was in Turret 1.
USS Enterprise (CVN-65) had the radio call sign of Starbase for a time.
Whoa. Seriously! All of a sudden, that scene in Hunt for Red October makes sense. "Yankee 1, Starbase!" ...That was the callsign for the SHIP!
@@SuppressedOfficial Yeppers. Tom Clancey, the author of Hunt for Red October was a stickler for accuracy in his stories, and there's no way he would NOT include something as cool as that. Another thing, I was waiting at the pier when Enterprise was tying up, returning from deployment and her shift of homeport to Norfolk VA, and they played the ship's "Break Away" song over the loudspeakers, the theme from ST-TNG.
Fitting given the Shuttle Enterprise and the Star Trek connection.
Of all the stories about the Big E, nothing will ever top her running aground in San Francisco Bay, with George Takei on board as a guest. Oh Myyyyyy.
@@robertf3479 In 89-90, when she shifted homeport to Norfolk, the breakaway music was the Jerry Goldsmith's main title theme from the first Star Trek movie. During that cruise I never heard them use the ST-TNG version that featured the Alexander Courage original series intro. They are similar, in that, after the original series intro it goes into the Goldsmith theme. I left the ship when she went into the refueling overhaul, so I don't know which version they used for the breakaway after that.
Warspite is probably the coolest actual name for a battleship. "Black Dragon" is probably the coolest nickname for a battleship.
Dreadnought was so cool they named a generation of battleships after her.
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Thats a good one too.
Still a crime that Warspite wasn't preserved.
@@treyhelms5282 Enterprise and Warspite pretty much represented their respective navies. Sad that, at the time, the idea of preserving warships really hadn't caught on yet.
@@177SCmaro Well, not caught on a massive scale like the US did other ships post WW2. US preserved Constitution and Texas and others. The UK, HMS Victory and others. Yeah it's a shame Enterprise and Warspite weren't.
One of my father's nurses in the public heath service was (allegegly) saved by the New Jersey while he served in Vietnam. The story goes that he was traveling with spotter and they were run off the road by an ambush. They ran down a hill and hid in a paddy. The spotter called for fire and got some 5" shell on the hill above. Apon abserving he "smiled" , asked "fire for effect", then said "cover your ears, scream, and float." After 'almost a minute' 16" shells fell, and the hill above was gone. Apparenty they walke calmly to safty. "The big J safed our ass". A story from my childhood by an E5 father.
My grandfather gave similar accounts of the percision of the Nevada on Iwo Jima. He said it fealt like "we could hold up a cap and catch a "box car"". he was in the 5th marines.
The new deck looks great 👍
Yeah, that teak looks awesome!
I wonder if they ever combined black dragon and blue eyes to get a blue-eyed black dragon. Would've made a killer patch at least.
Me: "Why does he have that big 'ol caribiner if he doesn't have anything attached to it?"
Husband: "He has to grab big rings of keys throughout the day. The man is FUNCTIONAL. No form. ONLY FUNCTION."
The USS Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71 has had the call sign of Big Stick for like ever. USS George HW Bush CVN-77 has a cool one, Avenger (After the aircraft he flew in WWII).
"Speak softly and carry a big stick"
I think stand-up comics should be asked what the Gerard R Ford's nickname should be.
@@SomeRandomHuman717 "Dead Today" (After the SNL skit)
@@SomeRandomHuman717 " Better than Carter " ?
There was a USS Theodore Roosevelt that predated CVN-71. It was SSBN-600, one of the first boomers, and it too had the nickname "Big Stick"
A while back, when I was the USS Midway, the Tactical Operations room on-board had a transparent board that contained a list of active naval surface combatants in action during Operation: Desert Storm. The callsigns for USS Missouri and USS Wisconsin, which were active at the time, were "Show Me" and "Badger." These nicknames are references to the nicknames of the states that the ships are named after.
When the aircraft carrier HMAS Melbourne sailed with USS Enterprise, she was referred to as Little M. HMAS Melbourne was the smallest carrier in the world at the time and USS Enterprise was the biggest and she of course was called Big E.
HMAS Melbourne of course was famous for having a higher kill count of friendly ships than enemy ones
I was stationed on the USS Plunger (SSN 595) we used to call her the "The old plumbers helper".
All hands! Prepare to make the wet sloppy noise!
OMG, Ryan got a new belt 😮😮😅
Right???? What happened to trusty dangle-belt?????
@@caramelcreme777 It's now on display in the thing's our crew have used to help keep the ship in ship shape
Ryan is a bit more dressed up than usual. Perhaps it is his "dress" belt!
@@71midnight @71midnight OMG are you SERIOUS???????? That's AMAZING!!!!! My husband and I always joke about Ryan's "penis belt" because the tail end was always flapping about.
Not a military one, but Air Canada planes use the call sign Maple (how very Canadian!). British Airways, of course, uses the always awesome Speedbird.
Impressive sight at 5:00 with a CH-47 Chinook landing on the fantail.
Actually that's a CH-46 Sea Knight.
Its a frog
@@randyogburn2498 Yes you are correct, it is a Sea Knight. Still an impressive landing.
My experience only covers carriers
Big "E"(Enterprise) Shitty Kitty (Kitty Hawk) Forest Fire/ El Zippo (Forrestal) Danger Ranger Hotel 61 (Ranger) Filthy Dirty and Rusty (FD Roosevelt) Conflagration (Constellation) Ol Risky (Oriskany)
USS Saratoga (CV-60) liked to go by "Super Sara". A lot of sailors often referred to her as the "Sorry Sara", or "The Sinking Sara". She sank in port twice that I'm aware of. One was on purpose due to a possible hurricane. The other wasn't on purpose and happened shortly after a yard period. Those are just stories I heard and nothing I can confirm but they contribute to my favorite nickname for the Sara, "The sinking sixty from Dixie". The Saratoga was homported a lot out of Mayport, Florida.
That still beats the Shangri-La’s
She was known as sister Sarah to. As sister to lady lex
@@kellyschram5486 Sister Sara was the original Saratoga, CV-3.
Also, “sucky Sara”...
@@benn454 correct- also, the sister ship to CV-60 was the Forestal. Both loooong retired:(
Wisconsin= Wisky due to her bow from Kentucky, Iowa = The big stick - from a saying by Theodore Roosevelt, and The Mighty Mo = Missouri.
The current carrier Theodor Roosevelt likes to call themselves "The big stick". I always think of them as "Teddy Ruxpin" 😁
@@Tsyroc The name is from Roosevelts saying of "Walk Softly and Carry a Big Stick". Also he hated the name Teddy. Being a former crewman of CVN-71, its considered an insult to call the ship USS Teddy Roosevelt.
@@Tsyroc I got that reference...
I’ve always heard the nickname Wisky but never connected it to her bow being Kentucky’s
@@sirboomsalot4902 Originally, one of her nicknames was "Ol' Wik". After the bow graft from Kentucky, it morphed into "Ol' Wisky".
On of my favorites is USS Pennsylvanias nickname of "ol' fall apart" from firing so many shells that she was shaking
The Samuel B Roberts (de 413) had an interesting call sign during the battle of Samar, Juggernaut.
And she put up a fight to match, it took 14 in sized shells to put her under (if not 18.1 in shells).
Sammy B took a gut shot from Kongo personally and still was putting down 20 & 40mm plus 5 inch fire whilst actively undergoing abandon ship procedures and getting the rear 5 inch turret blasted to hell for the trouble she made of herself. What impresses me the most is that a old engine system was coaxed by the engineers and MM's into cranking out 34 miles at full flank by fiddling with all the outputs and the steam system. Sadly a lot of the engineering crew got killed when she took the gut shot.
The last stand of the tin cans truly was a titanic fight.
Then of course she had to go for one more title: Deepest shipwreck in the world.
My favorite ship nickname is "Billy Ruffian" for the British ship-of-the-line _Bellerophon._
A few years ago I helped do some repair work on a single sculling boat named "Billy Ruffian". The owner's great, (great?) grandfather had been an officer on Bellerophon, hence the name.
"Nasty Asty" was the nickname of heavy cruiser USS Astoria (CA-34). My grandfather served on the Astoria from commissioning until 1936-37. He was on the ship baseball team and went from Polliwog to Shellback on her first cruise across the equator. I have no idea where the nickname came from, but of course I like it. Too bad none of the treaty cruisers were preserved, but then many are on eternal patrol, Houston, Quincy, Vincennes, and 'Nasty Asty' among others.
Thanks for video.
I really like the measure 21 camouflage, it would be cool if (like in railway preservation where they periodically repaint locomotives and cars in alternate historic paint schemes) they could repaint the New Jersey in measure 21 for a few years but the expense would be unreasonable with a ship this size.
“Big Thunder” was a call sign/ nickname during our 88’ deployment to Australia
Another Vietnam call sign was "Linebacker "
That was the air war, the bombing of North Vietnam I believe it was "operation linebacker" and there was linebacker 2 as well I wasn't there but I study history
I was on the "Happy Harry", USS Harry W. Hill DD986. We did a lot of port calls in some nice spots, and the first captain was a very nice guy. I was tasked with trucking chairs and tables to his private home for an "official" party he was having. Once my crew and I set up the tables and chairs, he gave us a few beers a piece and sat and drank with us and shot the breeze with us for over an hour. Commander Hogan, really good guy.
I love that they gave a ship nicknamed Black Dragon the call sign Werewolf. That is epic.
The story about the Soviets checking out the pools though reminds me of a story told by a person stationed I believe in West Berlin.
Apparently him and another soldier would go off base to eat their lunch, and park up on this hill and eat on the hood of the truck. Then go back to base. Apparently the East Germans took notice of this and kept getting more and more interested in what they were doing, probably thinking they were doing some kind of recon. Eventually they started playing along with them, which got more and more attention before the base commander finally noticed and told them to quit doing that.
"Werewolf" is just perfect.
My gramps served on the Massachusetts from her commissioning until the end of the war. He always referred to the ship as "Big Mamie".
USS Midway was known as Midway Magic, due to her high reliability and mission capabilities.
I’m thinking of the crude nickname for HMS Beaver
so you could say shes a blue eyes black dragon?
Her special attack eliminates all of your remaining life points!
I just love Capital Ship's Nicknames...
Not so much a nickname, but HMS Hood was known as "The largest submarine in the fleet" during her career due to her quarter deck always being awash even in a moderate sea.
Boy that one didn’t age well
@@sirboomsalot4902 A 15 inch shell at the wrong place tends to do that.
Why? Because she was painted a dark color and tended to breathe fire and delete major terrain features. It was, like all the best nicknames, applied by terrified enemies.
Some brilliant people could easily write a two hundred page book on a single ship. Ryan could fill countless interesting fun facts books just on the Battleship New Jersey.Guy is a treasure.
When I was in the USAF stationed in then West Germany at Pruem Air Station, I was part of the 601 Tactical Control Squadron. This was a movable search radar squadron. Our radio call sign was "Morpha". Before I got there, the squadron had received a Marginal rating on 2 Tactical Evals. After that the unit became "Marginal Morpha".
Our mission was to tell the Eagle Drivers from Bitburg Air Base (BT on the tail) where to go!
USS North Carolina was the "Showboat" - the newest designed battleship, sailing in and out of NY harbor on multiple shakedown cruises, working out kinks in her propulsion system.
Prior to WW2 sailors had named USS California "the prune barge" and I think it was the USS Nevada that was called "no go maru" which would be disproved as she was the only battleship that got underway during the Pearl Harbor attack.
Some people started calling the USS John F. Kennedy the USS Chapaquidick after her encounter with USS Belknap on November 22, 1975.
deck looks AWESOME. visited in 2019 cant wait to go back
Love the content … Thank you for sharing !
Thank you for uploading
That was a cool episode Ryan thank you.
So wise , thank You
Love those authorized government paint colors. While I was in the Air Force on a TDY assignment our maintenance shop was repainted one of those colors. On return from the TDY we were informed we needed to repaint it as the squadron commander did not like the color!
I haven't seen it yet, but the USS Birmingham (CL-62) had the nickname Ole Faithful for awhile due to some damage she had sustained during a Japanese attack. The crew cut a hole from the torpedo damaged hole and up through the deck so they could make it back to Pearl for repairs. So on the way back, every time a wave struck the ship, it go in this channel and then shoot out of the top like a geyser.
New Jersey is actually a few inches larger than the other Iowa Class Battleships - about 6 inches if I remember correctly. The Big J will cause you to have a bad day.
this is true but also false do to where the ship's served the water & air temp's changed how much the ship shrunk or expanded all of the iowa's are the same if we put all 4 in the same place then pull out the good ol yard stick then you might only get one or two maybe three inches of them but anyway good on you for know you real life lore bud!! 😃 p.s. just trying to help spread fact's and info hope yall have a good day.
I don't know any New Jersey nicknames but it took me half of the program to remember the one for the Wisconsin, which was big whiskey!😮
No mention about the person sitting on the middle barrel of turret one?
Being a Pensacola native and a good deal of my family hailing from the Mobile area, everyone knows the "Lucky A"...USS Alabama. Personally, I'm a retired Army noncom. Not unlike the Navy, we too would give our heavy metal nicknames. My M113A3 APC...this would be the fall of the Berlin Wall thru Desert Storm time frame...had "NUNYUH" stenciled down the side of it. Upon being asked what it meant, the obvious response was always "Nunyuh damned business". ...right up until a three star General asked.
My Bradley was "Der Kleine Madlpanzer"...."Little Girly Tank".
Yes but have any of them slept on the battleship because I have for Boy Scouts twice
My 5 ton was “Damage Incorporated “ until my captain made me change it.
My father proudly served on the USS Hancock (CV-19) during the Vietnam War. He told me she was called "The Fighting Hannah".
In the 80s, after many extensions of our three-month Shakedown Cruise which turned into 11 plus actually, a lot of us grumpy Sailors would refer to the ship as "the battleshaft" Each additional extension was us getting shafted. When the Iowa crew was readying for their sea trials, they would rotate crew members onto the Jersey to spell ship's company for extended leave. We called those the freedom flights!
If I am not mistaken - the Navy color code for potable water piping is a shade of light blue.
I dont know many more of new jersey's but i do know a fair few of enterprises (CVN-6) The Big E, Lucky E, Grey Ghost, galloping ghost (CVN65) Big E
Theres also saratoga who was nicknamed super sara missouri who had the nickname mighty mo or just mo. Iowa had the big stick, the grey ghost (during the Korean war) and the battleship of the presidents. Wisconsin had big whisky or just whisky. Uss yorktown (cv10) was known as the fighting lady, uss hornet (cv8) had fighting lady, happy hornet and the funniest one in my opinion horny maru. I could continue but well ill leave the rest for others
If I remember correctly, Hornet(I think 8) had the nickname "Horny Maru"
Also the nickname for the New Jersey Turnpike. Troop D NJSP
I heard New Jersey was called "The Big Stick" referring to the fact that Iowa was being refitted with the new bridge structure and Jersey was our only new BB at the time. Also calling up the Teddy Roosevelt Big Stick diplomacy in the nickname.
USS Ticoderoga CG-47; Tico and Building 47,
Don't have to imagine the flash, we saw it from DaNang air base on a regular basis while she was throwing shells over our heads.
Never knew Dark Black reflected more light than Blue.
nice video of a ch-46 landing
GREAT VIDEO !!! BUT MY SON AND I LIKED THE OLDER VIDEOS,, THANKS,,..
German heavy cruiser „Prinz Eugen“ = „ the lucky Prince“ as she survived WW II as the only heavy German unit
She was dubbed the "lucky prince" long before the end of the war for surviving so many hair-raising incidents. Roughly comparable to "Lucky E" Enterprise CV 6. Even before "Operation Rheinübung", an attempted breakout into the Atlantic Ocean with the battleship Bismarck in May 1941, Prinz Eugen detonated a magnetic mine dropped by British aircraft, that could easily have "snapped" her and sank her, but she survived with minor damage. After the "Battle of Denmark Strait",
due to engine trouble and low fuel, so , instead of raiding Allied merchant shipping she was ordered to a Brest in occupied France. Despite the many British warships and several convoys in the area, , Prinz Eugen reached the Bay of Biscay undiscovered. She was repaired in occupied France. Than the cruiser participated in "Operation Cerberus" a daring daylight dash through the English Channel back to Germany. In February 1942, Prinz Eugen was torpedoed by the British submarine Trident days after arriving in Norwegian waters. The torpedo practically ripped her stern off. Under emergency rudder she "limped" to Kiel. While en route to Kiel, the ship was attacked by a British force of 19 Bristol Blenheim bombers and 27 Bristol Beaufort torpedo bombers, though the aircraft failed to hit the ship.
Upon returning to active service, the ship spent several months training officer cadets in the Baltic before serving as artillery support for the retreating German Army on the Eastern Front. In October 1944 Prinz Eugen inadvertently rammed the light cruiser Leipzig amidships in heavy fog. The Leipzig narrowly survived the collision, the Prinz Eugen was only slightly damaged. After the German collapse in May 1945, she was surrendered to the British Royal Navy before being transferred to the US Navy as a war prize. After examining the ship in the United States, the US Navy assigned the cruiser to the Operation Crossroads nuclear tests at Bikini Atoll. Having survived the atomic blasts, Prinz Eugen was towed to Kwajalein Atoll, where she ultimately capsized and sank in December 1946.
USS Enterprise was known as "The Big E" throughout much of her career. Not very imaginative, but it was prominently painted on the forward side of the island. In the late 80s, when I was aboard, she was called "The Pig" by many of the reactor department personnel.
Because calling her the Grim Reeker, in reference to Jersey, wasn't what they wanted?
The ship I served on USS Peleliu LHA-5 was known as the Iron Nickel. We often called her "the pelitentiary"
Thinking out loud here from a museum revenue standpoint, with the nicknames and imagery available, you could do some really cool hats, shirts, pint glasses and other swag.
No offense, way better than the bad tourist stuff currently on offer. Said by someone who has bought some to help.
The little shop they have in the visitor center (they still can’t serve food onboard due to COVID) is called the Black Dragon Cafe
i'd buy a hat with a blue eyed black dragon on it in a second.
I am partial here,I grew up in North Carolina,and the North Carolina was the first battleship I ever saw,so I like her name,"The Showboat"
Time to repaint the new jersey!!!
My Ship The Yorktown CG48 was known as the Battlecruiser, USS Long Beach call sign was ALCOA (DUE TO HER SUPERSTRUCTURE BEING MADE OF ALUMINUM
Served on USS Flasher SSN613. 1977-81. Two nicknames; the Flasher Maru and the U-613
I always like "The Grand Old Lady" for HMS Warspite.
USS Texas was saddled with Yahoo Maru.
USS Kitty Hawk was long in tooth when retired, the whole fleet referred to her as the Shitty Kitty. 😅😅😅
USS Lexington (CV-2) "Lady Lex", "Grey Lady"; USS Lexington (CV-16) "The Blue Ghost"; USS Texas (BB-35) "Mighty T".
World of Warships has a blue camo that looks close to Measure 21. So if the New Jersey ever comes to World of Warships as a Premium, I'll get her and paint her in that.
New Jersey is a premium ship in Legends
@@DamienDemiGod I only play on PC so...
@@TheOneTrueDragonKing maybe they'll bring it to PC for a 4th of July event 💀
@@DamienDemiGod Maybe.
It does make me wonder if that amount of water weight sloshing around on the deck affected the ship's performance ...
The pools were apparently only the size of ordinary backyard pools. I estimate that the water in each pool weighed at most 50 long tons. Since there were two pools, the weight distribution was symmetrical - all in all, not a problem on a ship that has a standard displacement of 45,000 long tons.
While it would have been several tens of thousands of pounds given the weight (displacement) and size of the ship I seriously doubt that any effect were noted other than wet spots where water sloshed out.
Keep in mind the closer to the center of gravity you add weight the less effect it has or altenately more distance from the center of gravity the more power added weight has to effect the ship.
He said they took many 40 mm AA 7:42 mounts off the ship in the 60s that would have to lightened her up a lot and also they required less personell than in WW2 trim, before this I had no idea that swimming pools were ever on Battleships
I summon my Blue Eyes Black Dragon, in attack mode!
Look at that wood deck it is immaculate I take my previous comment down I want to see Battleships far into the future
Cv 6 was nicknamed the big e and the grey ghost west virginia was nicknamed wee vee new jerseys sisterships are nicknamed mighty mo and big whisky uss lexington both cv2 and cv16 are nicknamed the lady lex
Similar to "The Big J", in *The Hunt for Red October* when USS Dallas darts behind Red October to divert the torpedo and then performs an emergency blow, one of the officers (I believe the XO) encourages her along with the phrase "Come on Big D, fly!"
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She’s also referred to as NJ.
I have heard that the USS Iowa was called the "Great Grey Ghost of the Korean Coast" during the Korean Conflict.
USS South Dakota went by Battleship X for a time...
That's actually a curious question. Since New Jersey could receive incoming, I wonder how big her sickbay is.
Did the Big J ever come into contact with the USS Forrestal ? My Dad is a plank owner on it, and as we are NJ folks, I'd love any connection between the two boats
werewolf is a awesome callsign
"Unsinkable", The Titanic
I used to have a friend that loves his New Jersey on WoWs, we then later affectionately started calling him "New Jerky" cause of his love for beef jerky and New Jersey
Now I never heard of any nicknames for the New Jersey besides the big j but for one of her sister ships down here in Downtown Norfolk, the Wisconsin, one of her most famous nicknames is The Big Whiskey because well the name Wisconsin. Funny unimportant story to this, but every year on it birthday, the museum Nauticus, will host a party and whiskey is often served there. (Just a fun fact)
Somebody is working on the main guns, sitting up there, and not even a peep about it? ;-)
Back in the 70s, diesel-powered HMS Lincoln had one too many alcohol-related indisciplines and became the "Stinkin', Drinkin' Lincoln". Not long after, HMS Apollo had a couple of "same sex" cases in quick succession and was dubbed the "Gay A".
BB61 Grey Ghost of the Korean Coast the best
I know the big E/The grey ghost for CVN-6 and The big whiskey for BB-64
SHE HAS MY PERSONALITY 💙💙💙💙💙💙😊
Is someone astride the center barrel of #1 turret touching up the paint?
Yes
@@BattleshipNewJersey’m glad to see so much progress done on the guns already! I visited New Jersey on Monday and it looked like they had a lot of gun left to paint lol
What were USS Enterprise CV(N)-6 Radio call signs any cool ones