Tarja - Chest & Speaking Voice Evolution
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2017
- Tarja is famous for her head voice and the high notes. But lately she's been developing her low notes, her chest voice and the use of her speaking voice into songs a lot, so let's take a look at how that has evolved! No matter whether you like her low register or not, it's impossible to say she hasn't made quite a lot of progress with these techniques.
Thanks for everyone whose pieces of videos are in here, there were so many I didn't put the names as usual in the video, but if you want credits for some of the recordings just comment and I'll link your channel at the description :)
She's a wonderful singer with a big voice range! I love her deep dark voice and her shiny high voice!
Tarja has improved her chest voice A LOT lately! It's so full and rich! I think I even prefer it over her head vocie, that's how much she has improved!
i am so amazed by her incredibly strong low chest voice. its so intriguing. she has evolved a lot with lots of adlibs and free singing. I am so happy for her change.
The problem right now is her mixed voice. her always puts too much chest voice so she sounds struggling and weird during the head /chest transition. I dont like how she sings Ever dream. she showed balanced mixed voice back in NW era when singing slaying the dreamer belting out E5 . Hope she could find the balance.
Great Video
It can cause trouble to find a natural way to go up through the passagio. But personally I am so glad that she uses that SOO necessary notes. The glottal closure is way more efective in someone who sings in chest, as a result, the vocal chords lengthen and restore the natural tone (tonicity) of the chords, producing a healthy and extension of the register. Here we have Maria callas giving her perspective of chest notes ua-cam.com/video/d2IlJa_CfYo/v-deo.html. It's a clip of 1 min she talks at the end.
Wrong again
This is the only video on the entire youtube website that actually showcases how far she has gone and how mind-blowing her chest voice is, one would assume someone with such a phenomenal head voice couldn't care less about their chest voice development or even if they wanted to try, their voice could have turned out to be horribly weak or uninteresting... guess what, not only has she the god given treasure that it is her head voice, she has this seductress, siren, deep metallic chest timbre.
God must like her quite a bit.
Now more into the video, you picked all my favourites, Darkness in Lisbon, the Pandemonium part from Russia, House of Wax and Supremacy from the shadow tour and genelec. The Christmas tour in Russia... I mean, every single time I see someone saying she is done I am like, wait a minute, are we living in parallel universes... If you actually follow her career and not just randomly dislike and pour hate into her festival performances, Nw covers or you happen to watch one or two random performances where she is jumping around switching timbres and not giving a fuck, if you happen to pay attention and peal out all biases from your brain you will see that she has never ever been this good, mature and proactive. The darling thing is even teasing us with a new album after releasing two in a row? And after such a portent as TSS , not a big deal, it is a huge deal. In a world where musicians keep committing suicide we need to cherish and appreciate the ones that are still here. Twenty years singing and influencing thousands of singers. Yes, I like Tarja, a lot. And yes I type a lot too. Letters major here :p
I know, right? every time I see people saying Tarja is singing worse than idk how many years ago I get like "whaaaat? we MUST be in different realities!", she's clearly evolved so much!
It is amazing, thank you so much we needed a video like this for so long.
Ligeia Noire lol! You don't like Tarja, you love her to the ends of the earth and back. And yes you do type a lot. A good thing!
Mary Akin-Ajayi you are right!
@Wailing vs Screaming I did say Tarja sounded like a goat. Precisely on Festivals. I loved her on Woodstock. Probably the only festival where she was on point. She sounded amazing but she sounded bad on Wacken and Hellfest and sounded bad on some of her Act2 DVD as well. You can stalk me there too read my comments. I have no problems in calling a spade a spade as they say. Tarja is a classical singer and classical singers always have an enormous difficulty in singing contemporary. It is no news. She should have hired help with it but she is definetely getting better in using her chest placement. She won't be a Floor any time soon but she is learning how to make the most of it. I think the biggest issue is that, unlike Simone or even Floor, that have similar chest and head registers, Tarja's chest register is very metallic, very raw and harsh, very different from her smooth and deeper head voice. So, I don't really know how one transitions smoothly between both without major disconnection but that's where a vocal pedagogy master would help.
Btw you think FML and me are the same person and that I don't criticize Tarja.
So, I will help you with the stalking.
Here is an example of many
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And another one
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I prefer her opera voice, it s just magic!
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silly
Aun recuerdo cuando al terminar un concierto en Argentina, sin micrófono, grito: " ¡GRACIAS!", todo, absolutamente todo el que estuvo presente en ese teatro la escucho, es TREMENDA su voz tiene una potencia ÚNICA, en el mundo del metal/rock/metal sinfónico nadie tiene la capacidad de esta mujer.
Tarja se destaco por ser la primera cantante lírica en cantar en una banda, por aquellos años de power metal, ella es una de las voces pioneras del metal sinfónico y ahora esta creando algo totalmente nuevo, es única, irrepetible y con una musicalidad espectacular, no se olviden que ella es una de las pocas mujeres del mundo del metal/rock que si sabe de música.
Gracias por este video ;)
Eso último tristemente ya se le olvida mucho a demasiada gente, y la critican mucho, que más que ser una Soprano lanzando notas altas super vibradas (aunque vibra mucho de por si), con vestidotes darks y haciendo headbanging a lo wey, es una de las pocas cantantes del genero que se puede llamar músico en toda la extensión de la palabra, con escuela y todo.
Epee Lunaire yo la vi en noviembre por primera vez en la gira the shadows shows y es bestial la voz de esa mujer. Es una deidad encarnada en humana.
Tarja is amazing!
The most beautiful metal singer to grace this planet. She is so amazing, whatever she does.
She inspired me to sing opera from the age of 14. 20 years later and I am still singing along to her beautiful work.
Idk i personally think she sounds the best with her head/mixed voice.Her chest voice sounds very heavy and dry and idk for others some ppl might like it.But its just rlly uncomfortable for me to listen to it.Technically speaking she is much more comfortable using it and it is much more resonant.However due to its heaviness and dark coloring it can put ppl off.
I loved the comparisons, it shows how much she has improved trough the years. But you just couldn't leave last year's Wacken Pandemonium part out! Hahah check it out, is jaw dropping!!
Thanks, i'll check it out! The made in finland fest version was the only one I could remember as having good sound x)
Tremenda voz !! Puede cantar lo que quiera...
Y su estilo es único !!
Pablo Chaván exacto, no es una copia de nadie! Su voz es una su estilo es propio!
+SilverWing Así es amigo. Eso es lo que la hace original !! Precursora en su género y la mejor, por siempre !!
@@pablochavan698 Lo invento ella . . . !!! despues aparecieron 20 mas . . .algunas buenas . . . pero como ella . . . nada en el Sistema Solar !!!
I agree with everything in this video. And I like it. But during the last tour she really struggled with the C6 notes in Supremacy and she stopped singing it. :(
Aging takes its toll, unfortunately. But she can smile and say she did it :)
I love Tarja!!
Just watched Victim of Ritual from Artmania this year, and even knowing full well how she sings in rock gigs nowadays, I was taken aback by how she sounded. Disliking her chest voice is one thing, but she also sounds very sloppy and out of sync. I especially dislike her latest interpretations of Ever Dream. In my opinion it doesn't fit the song.
But all in all, I sort of have mixed feelings about her chest voice.
I was impressed when I first heard the part in The Siren back in 2004, and I couldn't believe it was her voice. It is in such a contrast to her head voice. I've always wanted her to play around and be as versatile as possible. I commend her for being curious and persistent in training her voice. I believe there's a place for different aspects of her voice, but as with most things, balance is key. Having said that, her and my (and any other person's) ideas of balance and music in general might and most likely do differ more or less. But to be honest, to my ear, listening to House of Wax in that Gnelec video is not all that pleasant - even though I can appreciate how strong her voice sounds, and how much control she's got.
Another issue for me is that she seems to use her chest voice in most of the songs, and keeps going back and forth between chest and head voice, almost like on a loop, in a quite predictable and repetitive manner, and I think that in most instances that isn't the most suitable technique. I mean, there's a different atmosphere and a different story in different songs, and surely they all require a unique approach and artistic interpretation.
Totally agree
Thats why I cant listen her nowadays
She needs to smooth out the transition from chest into head because it sounds so disjointed right now
no
The Best
Absurdly Talented and Magnific the majestic Tarja Turunen is the only One 😗🌈👑
Her (dark and deep) chest voice singing style reminds a little bit of Diamanda Galas'singing style?
pan s and timbre I would say
Daaaaaaaamn!
pls add songs play list.. tarja best ♥
😍👏
She has always had the talent to sing anything. She didn't have to work at it, or figure it out. It was always there within her. Hopefully Nightwish will come to their sences, and reconcile with Tarja.
i would start to believe in god, if this happens, i swear, i will build church for any god who makes it happen:) this is the only thing i wait for, so much! i would die and be ressurected from happines in this case
I'm always very skeptical when people say "There's a talent for singing". There may be, but if you want to apply that to Tarja, it would make most sense if she wasn't studying music for 99% of her life. She learned piano at the age of 6, and has worked very hard on singing almost as soon as then. To me, this signifies hard work and dedication to the art, rather than a natural talent. If she started a band and never sang before and came out like she did back in 1996-1998, then I would say she had natural talent, but she had been practicing for almost 10 years before that.
What is the first part of the song?
yo solo veo que esta desarrollando y perfeccionando su voz de pecho.... PD:no entiendo ni madres de lo que dicen like si estas viendo este video y solo hablas español xD
Help, what's the name of the first music? So hiiiiiiigh notes!
Thanks
Caroline Feoli it is a cover of the song Supremacy by Muse
Supremacy, a Muse cover.
Найтвиш - пик ее карьеры.
7:45 it's not head voice (d5).
8:08 is jaw dropping.
someone could tell me the name of the first song please
Supremacy :)
Experience makes you better? *pikachu face*
0:42 Whats song?
The siren
She is a soprano, right? I mean, the notes she's hitting sound low for a soprano, at least for me.
But it could mean nothing, since I'm no vocal coach.
Kevin Blank she’s a mezzo soprano
@@FluffyLaDooDoo really ?? I think she is a dramátic soprano or Sprint
Priscila Ghia no she said it herself she a mezzo soprano and she doesn’t consider herself as an opera singer but she sings like an opera singer haha
she's clasified as a soprano.
mezzos sound different. Check Emanuelle Zoldan from Sirenia, she's a mezzo, her lows are fuller.
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from 3:44
@@FluffyLaDooDoo She is not and she has never said that. I understand she started out as a mezzo and it shows on Nightwish's From Wishes to Eternity. But she transfered to a different college and changed her technique since she's a Full-Lyric Soprano with a decent low range.
Soprano or mezzosoprano ?
She started out as a soprano and as most female singers she has dropped and she's a mezzo now.
Full-Lyric Soprano.
Soprano with a pretty good low range, she's not a mezzo at all.
1:50 THATS not her, that's Fabio Lione, she was only doing support vocals in that line.
I think it is her actually... note that in that part Fabio does not even have the microphone up towards his mouth....
She was.
Its her, 😒
I absolutely hate her chest voice. Even though she got better, I still don’t like it.
For me, I think it’s a mix of her tone, diction and accent. She often goes out of tune with it as well.
Her chest voice is phenomenally produced.
That version of Nemo is just awful...
CRINGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!