We need to be studying Timothy Morton’s work. So glad he was on the show and is being presented to more people. His Hyperobjects concept revolutionized ecology and modern “nature-oriented” philosophy.
His work on object-oriented ontology is an absolutely necessary read. Global warming is a hyperobject and it terrifies me. It's a shame people don't pay attention to ecological philosophers, Hyperobjects: philosophy and ecology is one of my favorite books.
Great interview! Thanks for this. Lots of food for thought on a very important subject. Thanks for not making all your work focused on the minutia of blow-by-blow politics. I appreciate this bigger subject matter -- the planet.
Beautiful reasoning from Timothy Morton on the ethics and morals among ordinary people, a never ending sense of guilt, so many choices to make and a feeling of insufficiency that’s almost natural and in a way acceptable.
try eliminating meat, dairy, eggs, processed food and sugars from 1 meal each day - that seems to be fairly easy to do. we really dont need to eat animal products every meal, 3 times each and the drink dairy on top of it. another easy food choice to make is to use milk alternatives instead of cow milk: soymilk, almond milk, oatmilk, cashew nut milk, soy creamer - so many choices!
also considering the withdraw of USDA supervision on pork & beef we're more likely to be poisoned by meat than vegetables. also that being said we don't have time for food poisoning when we're 2½ years from the guillotine!
Veganism is almost as much a religion as Christianity. I am veggie, even I get irritated by people repeatedly suggesting I should "go the last step and be a vegan."
Serious Maran I see what you’re saying, but to me eating meat seems more like a religion. Veganism makes more sense on many levels. Why needlessly kill or abuse sentient animals with a will to live when we can perfectly thrive on a plant based diet? Why eat a diet that’s been proven to be Much much worse for the environment? Not to mention all the health benefits of a good plant based diet.
There's so much human suffering in this world that I honestly can't bring myself to care that much about the suffering of lower life forms. And at least I don't have to take a B12 supplement.
Things we all (well a majority) can do: vote for politicians who support environmental policies such as the green new deal in place of politicians who are funded by the fossil fuel industry. Reduce the number of flights you take (especially business flights, use Skype whether possible), reduce the number of journeys you make in a car that are within walking distance (or cycling distance, which makes you healthier and therefore reducing obesity epidemic), eat less food (reducing the obesity epidemic and reducing health problems), use less electricity, less water, less gas, by being more efficient, like installing LED lighting, using a more efficient car (which also reduces costs), and many more things that if everyone did their bit would add up. I personally walk as much as possible, use LED lights, take short showers rather than baths, reuse washing up water in the summer to water the plants (which helps the environment in a number of ways), I buy as energy efficient products as possible, use reuseable bags instead of plastic ones, recycle (and have done my whole life), use public transport instead of a car, but I could do more, I could install solar panels (though not my house), eat less meat, and I'm sure much more things, the point is if we all do a little it can add up to a big difference. There are some things that are out of our control, like the amount of waste companies produce, this is why voting for the right politicians is so important, they can force businesses to act and that would make a massive difference
His discussion of guilt vs responsibility is exactly what I was trying to say but couldn't find the words for it. It's difficult advocating for plant based diets and other lifestyles that offer a better alternative when there's such a toxic internet culture surrounding it. I believe companies and governments are at fault, but I also believe we as individuals have a responsibility to make the best decisions we can for the better of our future. I want a million people practicing veganism imperfectly instead of a hundred practicing perfectly
Unless you're allergic, a single ant sting isn't much. It hurts for a bit, but no real damage is done. No creature on Earth, today or at any point in our history, could survive the sting of a million ants. So, yes, we're tiny individually, but working together, we could tackle any problem. The difficulty is organization and willpower. Figure those out, and we're unstoppable.
It is not just believing in something but accepting that everything needs a level of belief. Alternative energy sources can supply all the power America needs, providing you can store it effectively. That would mean the government taking responsibility and control. An America wide power network with electricity storage so electric can be moved to where it is needed, when it is needed.
That's silly. A tenth is still a significant chunk of anything. If you refuse to engage in any activity other than what will have the greatest impact, I don't understand how you even get out of bed.
Trump raises Q3 record 125 million dollars. - Pakman does story about Bernie raising 24 million. Bernie has heart surgery. - Pakman does 89th story about a Trump impeachment.
It was a stint. Pretty routine. Love how people making it out like he had a heart attack XD. And Trump is a sellout collecting corporate cash. (Even though he's a super awesome businessman who cant be bought) I would say that's a little less impressive than $25 million raised with individual donations
@@FloppyCheeks. only negative news about Trump and only positive news about Bernie. Very un-bias. Love Pakman. Only cover Trumps approval ratings when they are at there lowest. If something bad happens in America blame trump but if something good happens NEVER give trump credit. Rinse and Repeat.
@@xeftones that's a fair criticism. But can we be honest? Does Trump accept super Pacs and corporate donations? Because it's really not hard to hit High numbers with million dollar donations... Meanwhile Bernie has more individual donations then any candidate in history. Support is more impressive than money.
Timothy Morton's work on object-oriented ontology is brilliant. Global warming is a hyperobject and it's scary.
We need to be studying Timothy Morton’s work. So glad he was on the show and is being presented to more people. His Hyperobjects concept revolutionized ecology and modern “nature-oriented” philosophy.
His work on object-oriented ontology is an absolutely necessary read. Global warming is a hyperobject and it terrifies me. It's a shame people don't pay attention to ecological philosophers, Hyperobjects: philosophy and ecology is one of my favorite books.
So refreshing to hear someone who understands the big picture
Great interview! Thanks for this. Lots of food for thought on a very important subject. Thanks for not making all your work focused on the minutia of blow-by-blow politics. I appreciate this bigger subject matter -- the planet.
Thank you for your interviews David. I enjoyed this very much and it has made me think about how to approach this subject with others.
Beautiful reasoning from Timothy Morton on the ethics and morals among ordinary people, a never ending sense of guilt, so many choices to make and a feeling of insufficiency that’s almost natural and in a way acceptable.
try eliminating meat, dairy, eggs, processed food and sugars from 1 meal each day - that seems to be fairly easy to do. we really dont need to eat animal products every meal, 3 times each and the drink dairy on top of it.
another easy food choice to make is to use milk alternatives instead of cow milk: soymilk, almond milk, oatmilk, cashew nut milk, soy creamer - so many choices!
also considering the withdraw of USDA supervision on pork & beef we're more likely to be poisoned by meat than vegetables. also that being said we don't have time for food poisoning when we're 2½ years from the guillotine!
Cmon David, go vegan.
Veganism is almost as much a religion as Christianity. I am veggie, even I get irritated by people repeatedly suggesting I should "go the last step and be a vegan."
Serious Maran I see what you’re saying, but to me eating meat seems more like a religion. Veganism makes more sense on many levels. Why needlessly kill or abuse sentient animals with a will to live when we can perfectly thrive on a plant based diet? Why eat a diet that’s been proven to be Much much worse for the environment? Not to mention all the health benefits of a good plant based diet.
@@randrade89 correct, both sides can be compared to religions but I don't eat animal meat.
There's so much human suffering in this world that I honestly can't bring myself to care that much about the suffering of lower life forms. And at least I don't have to take a B12 supplement.
Things we all (well a majority) can do: vote for politicians who support environmental policies such as the green new deal in place of politicians who are funded by the fossil fuel industry.
Reduce the number of flights you take (especially business flights, use Skype whether possible), reduce the number of journeys you make in a car that are within walking distance (or cycling distance, which makes you healthier and therefore reducing obesity epidemic), eat less food (reducing the obesity epidemic and reducing health problems), use less electricity, less water, less gas, by being more efficient, like installing LED lighting, using a more efficient car (which also reduces costs), and many more things that if everyone did their bit would add up.
I personally walk as much as possible, use LED lights, take short showers rather than baths, reuse washing up water in the summer to water the plants (which helps the environment in a number of ways), I buy as energy efficient products as possible, use reuseable bags instead of plastic ones, recycle (and have done my whole life), use public transport instead of a car, but I could do more, I could install solar panels (though not my house), eat less meat, and I'm sure much more things, the point is if we all do a little it can add up to a big difference.
There are some things that are out of our control, like the amount of waste companies produce, this is why voting for the right politicians is so important, they can force businesses to act and that would make a massive difference
Amazing
Belief: An opinion that leads to action.
His discussion of guilt vs responsibility is exactly what I was trying to say but couldn't find the words for it. It's difficult advocating for plant based diets and other lifestyles that offer a better alternative when there's such a toxic internet culture surrounding it. I believe companies and governments are at fault, but I also believe we as individuals have a responsibility to make the best decisions we can for the better of our future. I want a million people practicing veganism imperfectly instead of a hundred practicing perfectly
Unless you're allergic, a single ant sting isn't much. It hurts for a bit, but no real damage is done. No creature on Earth, today or at any point in our history, could survive the sting of a million ants. So, yes, we're tiny individually, but working together, we could tackle any problem. The difficulty is organization and willpower. Figure those out, and we're unstoppable.
Shop at stores that have already taken the time to find truly eco products. Stay away from mainstream chain brands
This guy is worth listening to.
Remember how triggered Convics got when We Didn't care about that Demon Brother passing lol
It is not just believing in something but accepting that everything needs a level of belief.
Alternative energy sources can supply all the power America needs, providing you can store it effectively. That would mean the government taking responsibility and control. An America wide power network with electricity storage so electric can be moved to where it is needed, when it is needed.
Personal scale vs institutional, corporate/industrial, city, county, state government scale.
1) Go vegan, 2) stop shopping for crap, 3) no alcohol, sugar and dairy. Disrupt.
david was dancing around the meat issue and as soon as he said it you could tell he was like FUCK
That's silly. A tenth is still a significant chunk of anything. If you refuse to engage in any activity other than what will have the greatest impact, I don't understand how you even get out of bed.
k, a little trouble staying on point …. but I could listen to him for HOURS !!!
the fact he said ww4 makes me feel validated
this book seems interesting
Trump raises Q3 record 125 million dollars.
- Pakman does story about Bernie raising 24 million.
Bernie has heart surgery.
- Pakman does 89th story about a Trump impeachment.
It was a stint. Pretty routine. Love how people making it out like he had a heart attack XD. And Trump is a sellout collecting corporate cash. (Even though he's a super awesome businessman who cant be bought)
I would say that's a little less impressive than $25 million raised with individual donations
@@FloppyCheeks. good boy keep drinking the Pakman kool aid
@@FloppyCheeks. only negative news about Trump and only positive news about Bernie. Very un-bias. Love Pakman. Only cover Trumps approval ratings when they are at there lowest. If something bad happens in America blame trump but if something good happens NEVER give trump credit. Rinse and Repeat.
@@xeftones that's a fair criticism. But can we be honest? Does Trump accept super Pacs and corporate donations? Because it's really not hard to hit High numbers with million dollar donations...
Meanwhile Bernie has more individual donations then any candidate in history. Support is more impressive than money.
Eating less meat helps, huh. So vegetarian until lab meat rolls out the next few years.
Divorced dad makes a lot of sense
I can barely understand this hipsters answers to Davids questions. Focus brother.