Only tip to add from 20 plus years of painting autobody and heavy equipment don't spray in the sun you will see way better results. Awesome diy video! good job!!!! nice to see people getting after it and not talking about it !
UPDATE: Michael, first I want to say thank you for you videos. I am about to start stripping paint on my late grandfather's 1968 Lonestar 16' semi-v bottom. I will start tomorrow. Im using Aircraft Remover paint stripper. My uncle painted it with latex paint with no primer. Its peeling and should remove very easily. UPDATE: I purchased a 3200psi pressure washer and it peels the paint right off. Some areas need more help with Aircraft Remover in some areas and a wire wheel in more stubborn areas but the paint as of today has been completely stripped. Tomorrow I'll polish the aluminum and get it ready for primer and paint after a wipe down with denatured alcohol. Thanks for the videos. They've helped all through the process.
Bought a ‘89 12ft Sears Gamefisher aluminum boat a couple weeks ago and saw this video. Did exactly what you did and it came out great! Now just need some decals and upgrade the Gamefisher 5hp engine to something a little bigger. Great video!
Hi. Nice to find your channel. I have a 1989 blue fin sportsman 1700 that I have repowered with a 1987 Yamaha 70. I am in the process of redoing the floor, wiring, and carpet. I was able to get some aluminum enough to do the entire floor and support the runners too. I love that this video shows just how easy it would be for me to paint the interior of the hull sides instead of applying carpet. Thanks for the video.
JB WELD I use it to fill dents and holes in aluminum boat projects. Work line any other filler. Helps to bare sand with 80 grit then apply jb weld . I buy the biggest tubes I can find for larger areas and mix in bulk where possible. Leave is a little raised. Sand down to a finish, reapply as needed.
Great Job! One tip for you is to use Kleen strip. I have used it on several jobs and you would be able to wipe the paint off instead of all that wire brushing.
100% can confirm. i used the same process. Only thing i did different was self etch primer -> regular primer -> paint. 200ish miles of gravel roads and she's VERY TOUGH, aside from a few very small dings still looks flawless. But dings and scrapes are a sign of adventure anyway. a perfect flawless pristeen boat never leaves the trailer or sees water and doesn't catch any fish.
I sanded down my entire Jon boat White did down with rubbing alcohol and then primed it and then thinned out rust oleum oil base 6 years ago painted it with a roller still looks new. Then all my other Jon boat same prep except are you seahawk Jon boat paint also looks new still.
Might i suggest a polycarbonate stripping wheel. Not only will it SUPER easily strip but surface preps the metal for paint. Im a metal fab guy and thats all i use. Will remove all rust way better than wire wheels. Cheers!
I saw on another video that someone used aerosol aircraft paint stripper as that stuff is hard as nails. I'm going to repaint my painting of an old paint job on my Starcraft. Then I'm going to be using heavy equipment/ tractor paint for it. The rattle can already has a hardener in it where the bulk paint you control the amount you add. Rustoleum has an above waterline paint that is great as well
Michael your videos have been very helpful. I started to stripe my 14 ft starcraft jon boat and should be painting this weekend. Keep putting out these videos.
Always use stainless steel wire brush bits on aluminum. Some wire brushes are carbon steel and will leave rust swirls on aluminum. You do nice work Mike. I like visiting Lake Havasu. Many fond memories there. Too hot for me to live there year round though.
Wire brush is only good to initially strip the paint. You must go over it with 240grit to give it the appropriate scratches to bond. Scratches from wire wheel is too smooth for proper adhesion. It seems like wire wheel is all you need to do but the bond isn't as good.
Mike great video. I prepped my boat the same way with the exception of the paint. I just used three coats of oil based paint. I am sure it won't hold up as well as a two part Automotive paint but it was a easy to apply and should be easy to maintain I hope only time will tell. Over all I am happy with how it turned out. Everyone has their opinion on how things should be done But as we learn from one another our overall product gets better and I thank you and all the other TBN builders for their skills and knowledge.
If you put an oil based house paint on an aluminium boat, the coating will crack and begin to break down quickly, and the only remedy for it is to remove it completely. Oil based coatings are not flexible enough to flex and stay adhered to aluminium. A two part epoxy will always outlast a single component coating, but, that said, a definite no no us oil based coatings.
I watched few of your vids, good information. They make soft wire wheel cups for grinder in 4in 5in ect would speed up your strip process. Did my entire v18 in about 45mins
All i did was power-washed the boat anything that wouldn't come off with a 4gpm Power-washer i Just did a quick wet sand I spot primed the bare spots then used a $19 Harbor freight sprayer and that was 4 years ago and its holding up.... I only commented for people who dont have the time or want to strip whole boat.. the key is to get the old paint that is not coming off a Grit for new paint to stick... This is how they paint cars as well. they dont strip them down.... I mean thats the best way dont get me wrong...... but the washer striped everything inside boat so I was able to seal and weld (using aluminum brazing sticks ) for loose rivets or to just reinforce.. all my tiny boats before i used clear roofing silicone on all seams before i decked and it worked great as well. Happy fishing
Looks great ML. I'm a muralist...those index & thumbs tips (I'm sure you used both left & right) get sore after a couple cans, lol. Tip: A cheap painting tarp under your projects. In your case, it saves the driveway from silhouette. Gd wrk!
You have to use zinc chromatic to cover aluminum or zinc coated material, it stops the oxidation. That is the light coating of material that prevents further oxidation. What you will have to do is repaint in 5 years. Also when using paint remover, don't use the "green stuff". Use the stuff that "you get cancer from it for 2 generations " Works faster and better.
What kind of longevity did you see from this paint job? I just used this video to paint my boat and I was wondering how long it should last like this. Thanks!
Just got done painting my boat, went to apply a gloss clear coat (thought for more protection?) and it did not seem to stick at all and bubbles all over. Had good conditions and paint was fully dry, luckily I only did a small part of the boat before I realized what was happening. You did not mention a clear coat assuming you did not use one? After sanding and repainting the area it looks great again, wondering is a clear coat is necessary. Thanks
Sounds like crazing from the first layer continuing to off-gas. either 1 hour between coats, or several days. The colour had to cure completely before the clear-coat. not just dry.
I have a lot of experience with that citrustrip it works better if you scrape it off after 30 min or so. If you let it completely dry it doesn't really strip crap off. Last time i went with aircraft aluminum part stripper from Walmart
@@TinyBoatNation im with you there thats the same reason why i bought it it does work good but for me required 2 almost 3 bottles to get the job done. Boat looks great regardless.
There is a product called devcon aluminum putty which is the best way to patch holes and dents in aluminum if you do not have access to a mig welder with a spool gun. I have done repairs with fiberglass putty but you have to be very tedious with the prep and understand how fiberglass works in order for it to hold up
Bro I think the boat looks great and great job!! Thank you for sharing. This heavy duty wire brushes you used first are for taking thick rust and paint off a tractor oops! It looks awesome put stickers over that spot👍🏻
That repair appears to have been done by JB Weld Marine Weld Epoxy. Sorry, probably answered many times already but I don't have time to read. Nice job.
I used a structural epoxy putty made by Marine-tex to fill in some large defects like this. It goes on and cures like black glass but turns gray after it's sanded.
@@TinyBoatNation If you mix it and then apply it to the hull with a putty knife it really makes a difference. Either way it is some sort of metal epoxy for sure.
I just wondered why you didn’t get it rhino sprayed where the bottom, silver is located. That way the rhino will let the boat run right over things, and won’t bother it.
I have a 50 year old aluminum boat. Trying to redo the bottom paint but there’s some heavy pitting that I found after sandblasting the bottom. Would you recommend that I fill the pitting with epoxy before putting on the new bottom paint?
@TinyBoatnation I have fitted a piece of checkered aluminum to the front deck of my boat 1650 mm with the bow Shape cut out to fit .. My Question is would this type of way that you have painted the outside of the boat be durable enough to walk on as it will be a casting deck
Do you have any advice for a first time.boat owner/buyer. I just got a mid 70s blue star 13.5 foot closed bow. It's kinda rough but no leaks It was on the water last year. I'm completely new to boating and would love some advice on what my first initial steps should be
I am an aircraft mechanic. Using a steel wire brush or steel wool on aluminum is bad. It imbeds steel into the aluminum and can cause corrosion as time goes on. I know it sucks. It is so easy to use a rotary steel brush and is a fast way to remove a lot of material and shine that aluminum up. It's just not a good idea. Stainless steel is ok. Not sure if they make them in that though because in my business we use scotch Brite disks on a die grinder
Another Great video! How many cans do you think I would need for a 1542? Could you use a paint brush or roller to apply the paint, if so which brands would you recommend. Thanks again
Hey Michael, thanks for your inspiration on your builds. Two questions, Do you have TBNation or Depth Squad decals for sale? And have you ever used truck bed liner spray on the bottom of any of your builds? I have a boat I’m working on (it’s much like Matt’s boat) and it’ll be in creeks, rivers, and lakes. I’d like to have extra rock protection on the hull.
Noticed you left the engine in place? did you just go around it. Did you paint the engine? or Tape any areas to make sure paint didn't get somewhere it shouldn't? Thanks for the reply
Hello, I have a brand new unused aluminum trailer that I want to last me a long time. Should I sand and paint it right now ? Or leave it alone and later a year or two sand it and paint it ?
I noticed you left the engine in place did you tape it to protect a certain area ? Did you paint the engine or just go around it? Also what about the bow? Thank for a reply
Bradyn Lhotak I paint over the paint on my 0ld 16 footer and I lasted for at least 10 years with no issue I sold it so I don’t know how much longer it lasted after that
Michael. Great video! I got some TB nation decals already. Im re doing my boat, and I NEED that Depth Squad sticker man! Where can I get it? It's not in your store...
I believe that is Devcon aluminum puddy used to repair aluminum. I have a question for you. what would you consider to be the best boat for making a "tiny boat"? v haul? flat bottom? what size?
Only tip to add from 20 plus years of painting autobody and heavy equipment don't spray in the sun you will see way better results. Awesome diy video! good job!!!! nice to see people getting after it and not talking about it !
UPDATE: Michael, first I want to say thank you for you videos.
I am about to start stripping paint on my late grandfather's 1968 Lonestar 16' semi-v bottom. I will start tomorrow. Im using Aircraft Remover paint stripper. My uncle painted it with latex paint with no primer. Its peeling and should remove very easily.
UPDATE: I purchased a 3200psi pressure washer and it peels the paint right off. Some areas need more help with Aircraft Remover in some areas and a wire wheel in more stubborn areas but the paint as of today has been completely stripped. Tomorrow I'll polish the aluminum and get it ready for primer and paint after a wipe down with denatured alcohol. Thanks for the videos. They've helped all through the process.
Bought a ‘89 12ft Sears Gamefisher aluminum boat a couple weeks ago and saw this video. Did exactly what you did and it came out great! Now just need some decals and upgrade the Gamefisher 5hp engine to something a little bigger. Great video!
Hi. Nice to find your channel. I have a 1989 blue fin sportsman 1700 that I have repowered with a 1987 Yamaha 70. I am in the process of redoing the floor, wiring, and carpet. I was able to get some aluminum enough to do the entire floor and support the runners too. I love that this video shows just how easy it would be for me to paint the interior of the hull sides instead of applying carpet. Thanks for the video.
I just got a boat like this thanks for the step by step looking forward to restoring mine
JB WELD
I use it to fill dents and holes in aluminum boat projects. Work line any other filler. Helps to bare sand with 80 grit then apply jb weld . I buy the biggest tubes I can find for larger areas and mix in bulk where possible. Leave is a little raised. Sand down to a finish, reapply as needed.
Great Job! One tip for you is to use Kleen strip. I have used it on several jobs and you would be able to wipe the paint off instead of all that wire brushing.
I just got a 12ft v shape looking to turn into bass boat. Love how helpful your website it.
Great job ! Been thinking of painting mine and adding some graphics too. Cheers and thanks
100% can confirm.
i used the same process. Only thing i did different was self etch primer -> regular primer -> paint.
200ish miles of gravel roads and she's VERY TOUGH, aside from a few very small dings still looks flawless. But dings and scrapes are a sign of adventure anyway. a perfect flawless pristeen boat never leaves the trailer or sees water and doesn't catch any fish.
So after a year of this paint job and no clear coat how is it holding up? I’m restore a old boat myself.
I really like the look of that black paint!
Great video. Your store is awesome! Everything needed for boat rebuild. You got me looking for a project now! Thanks
Love the videos. Just fyi: if you wet the concrete around where you're painting it will help cleanup and finish product. Good job. I'm motivated.
starting restoring a old boat to go to hard to get place so i don't damage a good boat great videos very helpful
I sanded down my entire Jon boat White did down with rubbing alcohol and then primed it and then thinned out rust oleum oil base 6 years ago painted it with a roller still looks new. Then all my other Jon boat same prep except are you seahawk Jon boat paint also looks new still.
Might i suggest a polycarbonate stripping wheel. Not only will it SUPER easily strip but surface preps the metal for paint. Im a metal fab guy and thats all i use. Will remove all rust way better than wire wheels. Cheers!
found Krylon for you. looks like it is only available at Sherwin-Williams. thank you for all the info you share!!! doing my second boat.
I saw on another video that someone used aerosol aircraft paint stripper as that stuff is hard as nails. I'm going to repaint my painting of an old paint job on my Starcraft. Then I'm going to be using heavy equipment/ tractor paint for it. The rattle can already has a hardener in it where the bulk paint you control the amount you add. Rustoleum has an above waterline paint that is great as well
Michael your videos have been very helpful. I started to stripe my 14 ft starcraft jon boat and should be painting this weekend. Keep putting out these videos.
I just bought a 1968 14ft StarCraft seascape. Can't wait to restore it
Always use stainless steel wire brush bits on aluminum. Some wire brushes are carbon steel and will leave rust swirls on aluminum. You do nice work Mike. I like visiting Lake Havasu. Many fond memories there. Too hot for me to live there year round though.
Wire brush is only good to initially strip the paint. You must go over it with 240grit to give it the appropriate scratches to bond. Scratches from wire wheel is too smooth for proper adhesion. It seems like wire wheel is all you need to do but the bond isn't as good.
Mike great video. I prepped my boat the same way with the exception of the paint. I just used three coats of oil based paint. I am sure it won't hold up as well as a two part Automotive paint but it was a easy to apply and should be easy to maintain I hope only time will tell. Over all I am happy with how it turned out. Everyone has their opinion on how things should be done But as we learn from one another our overall product gets better and I thank you and all the other TBN builders for their skills and knowledge.
If you put an oil based house paint on an aluminium boat, the coating will crack and begin to break down quickly, and the only remedy for it is to remove it completely.
Oil based coatings are not flexible enough to flex and stay adhered to aluminium.
A two part epoxy will always outlast a single component coating, but, that said, a definite no no us oil based coatings.
I watched few of your vids, good information. They make soft wire wheel cups for grinder in 4in 5in ect would speed up your strip process. Did my entire v18 in about 45mins
Was it hard to keep from digging in with wire?
@@michaelbenna1089 not at all just dont do twisted wheels. The cups or straight bristles is about the best. All 19ft no problems
All i did was power-washed the boat anything that wouldn't come off with a 4gpm Power-washer i Just did a quick wet sand I spot primed the bare spots then used a $19 Harbor freight sprayer and that was 4 years ago and its holding up.... I only commented for people who dont have the time or want to strip whole boat.. the key is to get the old paint that is not coming off a Grit for new paint to stick... This is how they paint cars as well. they dont strip them down.... I mean thats the best way dont get me wrong...... but the washer striped everything inside boat so I was able to seal and weld (using aluminum brazing sticks ) for loose rivets or to just reinforce.. all my tiny boats before i used clear roofing silicone on all seams before i decked and it worked great as well. Happy fishing
Looks great ML.
I'm a muralist...those index & thumbs tips (I'm sure you used both left & right) get sore after a couple cans, lol.
Tip: A cheap painting tarp under your projects. In your case, it saves the driveway from silhouette. Gd wrk!
Good video. I'm looking to paint the top 1/2 of my boat to get rid of the all the stone chips I seem to have collected from trailering.
they sell rubber decal removers (Works on drill)
at most auto body supply stores. way easier than scraping
You have to use zinc chromatic to cover aluminum or zinc coated material, it stops the oxidation. That is the light coating of material that prevents further oxidation. What you will have to do is repaint in 5 years. Also when using paint remover, don't use the "green stuff". Use the stuff that "you get cancer from it for 2 generations " Works faster and better.
Nice video, starting on my smokercraft the same way
What kind of longevity did you see from this paint job? I just used this video to paint my boat and I was wondering how long it should last like this. Thanks!
Just got done painting my boat, went to apply a gloss clear coat (thought for more protection?) and it did not seem to stick at all and bubbles all over. Had good conditions and paint was fully dry, luckily I only did a small part of the boat before I realized what was happening. You did not mention a clear coat assuming you did not use one? After sanding and repainting the area it looks great again, wondering is a clear coat is necessary. Thanks
Sounds like crazing from the first layer continuing to off-gas. either 1 hour between coats, or several days. The colour had to cure completely before the clear-coat. not just dry.
love the videos about to buy by first boat so gearing up
That patch looks like JB Weld.
clear it, good job man
I have a lot of experience with that citrustrip it works better if you scrape it off after 30 min or so. If you let it completely dry it doesn't really strip crap off. Last time i went with aircraft aluminum part stripper from Walmart
@@TinyBoatNation im with you there thats the same reason why i bought it it does work good but for me required 2 almost 3 bottles to get the job done. Boat looks great regardless.
There is a product called devcon aluminum putty which is the best way to patch holes and dents in aluminum if you do not have access to a mig welder with a spool gun. I have done repairs with fiberglass putty but you have to be very tedious with the prep and understand how fiberglass works in order for it to hold up
Bro I think the boat looks great and great job!! Thank you for sharing. This heavy duty wire brushes you used first are for taking thick rust and paint off a tractor oops! It looks awesome put stickers over that spot👍🏻
I paint mine with air pressure and it came out to looks sick like new boat out of dealers
Thanks for the video. I’m going to do this.
Be honest, how bad was the over spray on the Nissan?
I'd say plenty.
That repair appears to have been done by JB Weld Marine Weld Epoxy. Sorry, probably answered many times already but I don't have time to read. Nice job.
I used a structural epoxy putty made by Marine-tex to fill in some large defects like this. It
goes on and cures like black glass but turns gray after it's sanded.
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Very nice video
How many cans?
On your drill powered wire brushes they must be stainless steel or brass when used on aluminum.
Use the fine brush
What is the most durable way to paint the bottom of an aluminum jonboat that’s been stripped down to the bare aluminum???
Bit late but I recommend epoxy primer since it is much more scratch resistant and strong as hell.
Looks great! I did mine pretty much the same way
How is it looking now?
Ever try the rustoleum oil based roll on or brush on paint? Wonder if that would work too
Rustolium topside is supposed to work well.
Jb weld is awesome shit on aluminum boats. Unless its major transom repair. Or major structure damage. you can use JB WELD with no worries.
Great job
Nice video bro did you use any type of clear coat
Looking good.
That paint job looked great. Keep up the good work bro.
I would bet money that the repair you uncovered is JB weld.
@@TinyBoatNation If you mix it and then apply it to the hull with a putty knife it really makes a difference. Either way it is some sort of metal epoxy for sure.
How many cans did it take brother? Looks good
Im in the process of restoring a 1956 "home made" boat. Thinking its a sea nymph. And I will be cleaning and painting soon.
How many cans of primer and black spray paint did you use? I’m about to paint my boat in 2 weeks!
Question i have a aluminum boat an im wanting to paint it what kind of surface prep is required if any ?
Cool mike that's how I plan on painting my 11.5!!
That repair looks like JB Weld to me. Its tough stuff.
Air craft paint remover not sure if it's still around put you spray that and the paint bubbles right off.
I just wondered why you didn’t get it rhino sprayed where the bottom, silver is located. That way the rhino will let the boat run right over things, and won’t bother it.
you know you did good job
Great video and work. You are the man! :-)
Have you ever thought about using Rustoleum Marine top coat?
That repair must be Splash Zone A-788. Or something similar to it.
Good job,where did u get urs decals they're so kool
I have a 50 year old aluminum boat. Trying to redo the bottom paint but there’s some heavy pitting that I found after sandblasting the bottom. Would you recommend that I fill the pitting with epoxy before putting on the new bottom paint?
What do you suggest for doing the same but for a saltwater application
@@TinyBoatNation Do you have any experience with or suggestions?
Keep doing what you do brother # TBN
Did you use gloss or flat spray paint? Looks great 👍
@TinyBoatnation I have fitted a piece of checkered aluminum to the front deck of my boat 1650 mm with the bow Shape cut out to fit .. My Question is would this type of way that you have painted the outside of the boat be durable enough to walk on as it will be a casting deck
Only thing is I would have put clear as the last coat.
Its a gloss paint? Why would you put a clear? Those gloss paints have the clear mixed in
Do you have any advice for a first time.boat owner/buyer. I just got a mid 70s blue star 13.5 foot closed bow. It's kinda rough but no leaks
It was on the water last year. I'm completely new to boating and would love some advice on what my first initial steps should be
I’ve seen 2/3 videos of yours on painting aluminum boat. Which one should I follow. Willing to spend 2 or 300 bucks to paint outside and the deck.
Rolling and tipping
Nice work. Like the decals.
Do you need to apply clear coat or anything else to make sure it stays on.
I tried this and did terrible. Love the tbNation, but I can’t use a rattle can. How would you fix? (In Minnesota, Lots of algae)
I am an aircraft mechanic. Using a steel wire brush or steel wool on aluminum is bad. It imbeds steel into the aluminum and can cause corrosion as time goes on. I know it sucks. It is so easy to use a rotary steel brush and is a fast way to remove a lot of material and shine that aluminum up. It's just not a good idea. Stainless steel is ok. Not sure if they make them in that though because in my business we use scotch Brite disks on a die grinder
Another Great video! How many cans do you think I would need for a 1542?
Could you use a paint brush or roller to apply the paint, if so which brands would you recommend.
Thanks again
@@TinyBoatNation I was thinking entire boat ....but now I'm having second thoughts and just go w/ the side for now...
Looks good man
Do you think I could just use a sheet sander and not wire brushes?
Tooken and flippened are not words.
Hey Michael, thanks for your inspiration on your builds. Two questions, Do you have TBNation or Depth Squad decals for sale? And have you ever used truck bed liner spray on the bottom of any of your builds? I have a boat I’m working on (it’s much like Matt’s boat) and it’ll be in creeks, rivers, and lakes. I’d like to have extra rock protection on the hull.
JB Weld?
That looks like it and it comes in marine grade.
Noticed you left the engine in place? did you just go around it. Did you paint the engine? or Tape any areas to make sure paint didn't get somewhere it shouldn't? Thanks for the reply
Aircraft stripper takes everything off. Scrapes off like slime. Minimal sanding. Especially if you want to clear coat metal.
Hello, I have a brand new unused aluminum trailer that I want to last me a long time. Should I sand and paint it right now ? Or leave it alone and later a year or two sand it and paint it ?
Hey, I am doing something very similar but with a 14ft v bottom I was wondering how many cans it took between primer and paint for the sides
Would like to know the same thing
Did my 16 ft sylvan and it took 5 cans of primer and about 9 cans of paint
I noticed you left the engine in place did you tape it to protect a certain area ? Did you paint the engine or just go around it? Also what about the bow? Thank for a reply
Good job bro !! Who did your decals i like the !! Pls give me the info TY
Get a automotive spray gun. Not to mention it's a heck of lot cheaper than rattle cans!
The bottom of the boat that did not get painted, did u sand it as well, and if so no rust issues
Would Rustoleum Acrylic Enamel work the same? And if painting over the existing paint would I still need to use a primer?
Hey, do u think you could paint over the paint already on the aluminum boat or would you have to strip the paint?
Bradyn Lhotak I paint over the paint on my 0ld 16 footer and I lasted for at least 10 years with no issue I sold it so I don’t know how much longer it lasted after that
You can paint over it just sand it a bit and clean it with degreaser for the dust and you're good to go
Michael. Great video!
I got some TB nation decals already. Im re doing my boat, and I NEED that Depth Squad sticker man!
Where can I get it? It's not in your store...
Looks good, thanks for the video.
I believe that is Devcon aluminum puddy used to repair aluminum. I have a question for you. what would you consider to be the best boat for making a "tiny boat"? v haul? flat bottom? what size?
Nice job 💯 what do you think about bed liner would that work
Did you ever take that on the river
Thank you for the video that looks awesome!