GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG: HUNTER TO HERDER
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Rich is both an AKC and AHBA Herding Test and Trial Judge. He and his dogs have earned six herding championships culminating in two "Triple Crown" wins in AKC, AHBA and ASCA. His dogs are among only a handful of German Shepherds in the entire nation to achieve this honor. Rich has been involved in herding for nearly two decades-training, trialing and teaching. Rich specializes in working with all dog breeds. As a testament to his teaching and coaching skills, his students and their dogs have successfully won awards at all levels of herding from instinct tests to championships. Rich is a Vietnam era veteran who served four years as a Navy Corpsman. After leaving the Navy, he spent the next 38 years as a med tech for the Veterans Administration Hospital in San Diego.
Unlike work with Collies, German Shepherds never gather sheep into a flock. They never use what is called the "EYE" to control sheep and they are never used to cut sheep out of a flock.
In the Tending style the sheep are trained to come to the shepherd when he calls them. The sheep are trained to follow the shepherd when he leads the flock to a new pasture. The dogs only role is to act as a LIVING FENCE and a Policeman to keep the sheep within the borders that the shepherd establishes.
It is not easy for one or two dogs to control a large flock of sheep. In Germany the flocks I watched averaged between 300 and 800 sheep. The dogs are expected to keep these sheep out of vegetable gardens and fields of fresh plants as the flock passes by or grazes next door. This is a difficult thing to do if the sheep have had nothing to eat all night or if they have been eating dry stubble for the past two hours. The dog's only means of maintaining control is through gripping or biting the sheep.
GSD...a dog of grace, beauty and loyalty.
I grew up with German Shepard Dog's, they're in my top 3 favorites of all time for sure. It's a shame how majority are so badly bred nowadays, you can observe it in their gait.
That's only with the showline German Shepherd Dogs. However, Working lines vs showline dogs are very different. The showline dogs have a great day in the show ring while working line German Shepherds have a great example of how you can breed your German Shepherd Dog to the breed standard that Max Von Stephanitzs who had bred them for. He wanted a trotting dog that could herd and do utility work for a long period of time. A dog that did not tired easily at all. A while back German Shepherd Dogs were in the working group per AKC. Today they remain a part of the herding group per AKC. The reason for this change was that the dogs ability to do utility work for numerous purposes and agencies was not when the standard originally implied. This is a purebred German Shepherd Dog of the past that was bred from original stock and a purchased Shepherd dog. And so the German Shepherd Dog was indeed the outcome of the breeds outcrossing, backcrossing, and maybe some line and inbreeding. Inbreeding is not taken lightly and dogs should never be able to breed to a close relative. For instance, mother to son, sister to brother, father to daughter. I have seen inbreeding and I can ensure you..don't rush to breeding both of these dogs together. Find a new gene pool for the greater good. Showline GSD evolved into nothing more than a dog trotting around a ring. The whole while having a sloped back with poor hind quarters and very weak back legs. This is not beautiful however it does look like a poorly bred dogs were bred to be the parents of who knows what they are going to look like. Working line German Shepherd Dogs are on a strict breeding program and they usually only breed when a dog has titled. Then they can be a good breeding dog. In bitches you should wait for the second or third season to get a stud. And please do your best to find out all there is to the true German Shepherd Dog. If you want a showline dog that's your prerogative. But beware, AKC does not have strict rules for breeding and working line German Shepherd dogs must be titled and health tested by the OFA or another organization. This means that American and Canadian Showline GSD are not perfect, by far. They have little pedigree and sometimes they don't have any registration papers. With the working line German Shepherds you'll see on the pedigree the generations of great titled dogs and what they produce. Also you get to see the sire and dam...I find a must to have trust in the breeder. Showline dogs make great family pets, but they will experience pain and they will slow down at an earlier age. The working lines are extremely important to the German Shepherd Dog gene pool. They have a high energy drive and prey drive. It makes them excellent police, military, border, Schutzhund, IPO and other dog related events in a lot of ways. We have to start with processing knowledge and using it. If you are a reputable breeder and have a great concern for the German Shepherd Dog then please help us maintain the quality of our German Shepherds. If you can't keep up with breeding your dog's in the proper way and condition you are doing no one any favors. Look into this amazing talent of a dog with drive and intelligence beyond anything we can ever imagine. The German Shepherd Dog never ceases to amaze me. He will be loving, loyal and faithful to his end. I hope this helps some of you. Owning any dog is a great privilege. God Bless
This dog in the video looks unathletic with a sloping back. I'd take a Malinois or Dutch 10/10 times for working.
I agree that one of the best traits of herding dogs is their tendency to think about what they're doing. They're active learners, always looking for ways to problem-solve. It's rewarding for them to learn new things and put it to use.
it's also funny when you manage to confuse them. I love that look.
@@kathleensolomon9041 There was a study done recently where they showed dogs images that defied normal physics. They were very confused by them. I haven't seen a video of it yet, but there are some images out there that are absolutely adorable! Your comment made me think of that.
I read the title and was confused. I did not know they were hunting dogs. I was about to say that Dogs 101 lied to me, but then the video went on and explained. So the GSD was originally a herding dog, but the hunter to herder thing was more of an explanation on how the herding dog group in general came to be. Loved the video. =D
They aren't hunting dogs ...he was comparing the reasons you use your dig for or what it was bred for. When a dog herds it has to do with their prey drive. It's confusing
@@michelepeditto2892 Yeah, I realized that later on when the video started explaining it into further detail. I totally was confused at first. XD
Now police dog too amazing dog
Hunter as in wolf to herding
They can be used for hunting though! Especially for things like coyotes I personally use mine for blood trailing
I love German Sheperd despite of being so loyal to their owner loving, they’re so dedicated on their job extremely well ❤❤❤ they do their job better well than people
"They have to think" - the most powerful words I've ever heard. Thanks for the motivation!
GSD's can be taught to do anything. And they do it all extremely well! Grandparents were farmers in Europe. They had a West German GSD. Smartest dog ever. Was about 110lbs. Lived for 15 years and herded animals right to the end. It is what he lived for. A happy GSD is a dog that has purpose.
Wish I knew how to train my three GSD 🐕🐕🐕 to herd. Great video, thank you! Greeting from Germany 🇩🇪
Love this video! I really enjoy the interview style videos most of all… feels like a wonderful return to classic Dogumentary TV
Glad you enjoyed it!
German shepherd s are very beautiful very smart very loyal great protection dogs healthy!!❤️❤️❤️
What a great bond! Super working dog for sure.
Lovely German Shepherds , so Rich is back eh? Awesome❤️
Loved the video
GSD truly versatile dogs.
another great and informational film.
The German Shepherd Dog is in the herding group. It was at one time in the working group. But it was originally bred to be a herding dog and utility dog. It doesn't tire easily and that'd what Max Von Stephanitz wanted.
Despite the name of the breed I've never thought of them as herding dogs. Thank you.
So the 'shepherd' in the name never triggered the thought?
Some great content here. Great stuff
beautiful dog
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Can you please make a video on the working line of the Standard Collie. I would love to see how they do in herding
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@@DogumentaryTV much obliged Zeke. Keep up the great work and let it be known that your fans love you and what you do
@@DogumentaryTV Hey Zeke, could you make a video on the Sarplaninac?
Good video. Thanks Zeke!
I would argue the GSD is an all around farm dog. They have webbed feet and love the water. Great to retrieve a foul just taken. Shepherding the sheep or cattle as we see here. Security and defense from people and other animals within reason. Plus they love to be with their owners. They are well suited for most climates but heat might be a problem. They genuinely want to please you and need to have a job. They are just wired this way and well done to the man that bred it into them.
My 1st dog was a German Shepherd his name was Max I was a baby
Yooo please do the “Berger Picard” also known as the Picardy shepherded!!! No one has done a video on these awesome dogs 😭
Good afternoon, please make your videos with subtitles so that I can watch with translation (subtitles) I am very interested and like the channel, but it is difficult to understand what is being said in the video((((((
Thanks.
My Heeler has drive and focus to the point a trainer though he had OCD. Not my trainer ( that’s me ) but a so called trainer that would hang at the dog park before my boy became too territorial of the park.
German shepherds over huskies for me.
How many of a litter is typically working potential?
@@juanhartley4897 I don't think you can answer that. Some litters may produce more working pups that others. It will depend, but breeders usually pick a sire and dam to exhibit the characteristics they want to breed and this usually throws some pups that will excel in the characteristics they have bred for. Hope that helps answering your question.
I never had one but I have a husky and I doubt I would choose a German Sheppard over him lol then again the 2 dogs are nothing alike so the best of the 2 depends on what you're looking for.
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How bad is the dog German shepherds left hip he either has servere hip dysplasia or the start of DM degenerate myopathy
I cringe at the way he moves as well, definitely not healthy hips
@@aggie3460 definitely not
@@andrewmiskimmin2853 how about working line german shepherd?
@@amosjuliantampubolon2413 they are meant to be healthier
Zeke can you do a video on the North American Mastiff?I know they got some breeders out there in Cali,I just want to be more informed on them cause I’m seeing them all over Instagram and TikTok.
Anyone here who has successfully trained gsd to be a LGD? Can you please let me know. I know they are not LGD breed.
It's a good vid. But that poor dog's hips are so bad. I can't not watch it and just feel sad.
Herding dogs are the smartest dogs. Them and some "working group" dogs. They were meant to think and work all day.
There in-the-moment problem solving is so impressive
Fighting dogs are also very smart
@@theperfectfighter9193 Yes, I can't argue with that, growing up myself around the American Pit Bull Terrier. However they are not as smart as the herding and some of the working group. However, if you want to talk about loyalty and bravery, you will not find a better dog. The Pit will stand by it's human no matter what. Also, they have gameness, that never say quit attitude. That can also be used for herding, because it's also a form of predator response, like they were talking about in the video.
@Satyricon Icon They use American Pit Bull Terriers for search and rescue also intelligence is not how well a dog can be trained or the job it can do.
Owner of a heeler-shepherd mix …… he is crazy smart. You can watch his pray drive turn on. He sees a deer or Fox there is a click I feel and he’s gone.
The German Shepherd Dog is in the herding group. It was at one time in the working group. But it was originally bred to be a herding dog and utility dog. It doesn't tire easily and that's what Max Von Stephanitz wanted.
Love my GSD .. closest she gets to work is herding my couch ..
@Larry Krohn This is so interesting! Love this about hearing How he can tell which job the dog loves the most. And funny that people would not realize that a German shepherd is actually a herding dog.. I mean it's right in the name. Lol!
Oh, you can tell. I too have done many activities with mine - but he emits a joy for working with my animals he does not do otherwise :)
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Can you please let me know will it be possible to keep a German shepherd as a live stock guardian. I need one in my farm as I can't afford a true LGD. Am just concern will it hurt my farm animals especially goats and chicken.
My German Shepherd was given to me from a Police Officer from the next town over. Her name is Ava. She got me to go from 230 pounds to 177. She's my exercise buddy and has gotten me to go for 20 miles now. I give out before she does. I don't work her, she works me. But it is fun. She's so friendly that a leash isn't really needed on our runs. I only have it to make other joggers feel safe on the trails.
No way I will ever believe that there are other breeds smarter than the GSD. They do it all. Not just one task. Who rated the breeds? AKC? They don't know what they are talking about.
Great video. Very informative! 💪💪
Keen intelligence, a desire to work with people but CAN often work independently, not to mention super athletic; and not all of the herding breeds are also good guardians (GSDs, Mals, Bouvier des Flandres, ACDs, Beaucerons)...I mean what more could you want? OK sure some have a touch of neuroses but who doesn't? Herding dogs rule!
Very interesting!! I learned so much. Thank you! I know it's in the name but I never thought of the GS like that.
I wonder how a standard Collie would fare. I've heard from some of the elders that the Collie of yesteryears is similar to the German Shepherd of today's day and age. Less the hip dysplasia😉
Good vid 👍
I have the same exact dog as him a female same color same body same here same type exactly like it
What a big beauty🥰🥰🥰🐶
Why the weird ending? LOL! Cut off the man while he was talking.
I am a really! Very big dog lover and puppy lover forever and ever ❤️❣️💌💟💝💖💗💓🩷💜💚🧡💛🩵💙💕💞🐕🦴
My half brother Ben and his family have a male German Shepherd❤❣️💌💟💝💖💗💓🩷💜💚🧡💛🩵💙💕💞🐕🦴
My favorite herding dog is the German Shepherd ❤ ❣️💌💟💝💖💗💓🩷💜💚🧡💛🩵💙💕💞🐕🦴
Simply amazing.
Thank you for this info . Legends
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I love this video, I have 2 GSD's a male and female each just over a year old. Can you tell me where I can learn to train them how to be herding dogs? That looks fun.
Awesome
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Have just discovered your channel - please consider doing videos on my 6 favourite breeds (which you have skilfully managed to omit completely!):
1. Broholmer (AKA Danish Mastiff) - my next dog ... I hope!
2. New Zealand Huntaway - my last dog was 50% this breed
3. Romanian Raven Shepherd - if I can't get a Broholmer ... this would be my next choice
4. Briquet Griffon Vendeen - my current dog is 50% this breed
5. Utonagan
6. Danish Spitz
Thank you for creating an educational video with examples. Definitely want a border/Shepard mix now. Intelligence plus aggression/prey
That's a very volatile mix lol and two very different styles of herding. You would definitely want one or the other. Mixing two breeds like that is unethical.
I love dogs. I personally don’t like German shepherds. Mainly because of crap owners. Only time I’ve been bit was a shepherd. Now my Heeler picks up on my feelings and he hates them too. Like father like son.