First off, the 2x jacks work wonders and thanks for the real time video! I finally bought a set of Proctor wall jacks. They weigh a lot, are bulky, and cost a small fortune (much less than a medical bill or unable to work for a couple of weeks with a tweeked back!) but now that I work alone most of the time I think the safety advantages outweigh the disadvantages. You always have a steel tube that is reliable, no more trying to find the best 2x's on site, you never have to stand under the wall until it is completely upright, and finally, it has stops at the end of the tube so the wall can't go over-center and fall off the deck edge. Thanks for the video, work safe, and have a great one!
Make sure there aren't any knots and use Doug fir/Larch not spruce. I've used these and it seemed dangerous until my framer and I jacked up the first wall
Next time when you lift the wall to about 7 ft, nail 7 ft 2x4 or 2x6 to those braces in a form of t-posts. This will keep them from snapping on you. Just make sure to put enough nails. Also, if it is windy, you can take 2 ropes of lengths (sqrt 2 x (height of wall)) and tie them to 2 straps nailed into a joist and top plate. Now you can be 99.9% sure that the wall will stay in place. For added safety, use ladders that are about the height of the wall, so that if the wall falls, it will push you off the ladder behind it.
I would use no less than 3 jacks on a 40' wall. That should put less than 1k lbs on each jack for a fully framed and sheathed 40' long by 9' tall wall. And includes a safety factor. Great video!
Always wanted a pair of Jack's. Keep putting it off and call the plumbers, hvac, anyone I can to lift a long wall. Use to run a large crew wasn't any trouble. Can't find the help anymore time to buy me a few. Thanks for the video 👍
JOE FUGALLO HealingIsEasy . In Edmonton you can buy them at a place called general fasteners . Most stores that sell framing supplies such as fasteners and nail guns will carry wall jacks . 👍
I've been building a lot of years and I know when things go bad it happens really quick. I fell through some homemade scaffolding about a week ago. I was very lucky. Thanks for the video.
You got that right I did 42' wall's 10' and on my second lift one of the 2x4's the jack ran up, snapped faster than you could say.........but only about 2 to 3 feet off the floor....you have to keep free from underside of this at all times or you are setting yourself up for some serious injury depending on the load it's lifting....however, going solo....these things rock!
@@13612 I was thinking, there is no way I would do this with dimensional lumber for that very reason. I'd want those jacks climbing something like square steel tubing anchored with a major hinge.
@@byronlaw6724 You couldn't do it with true 2x4 stock, it has to be 1.5 by 3.5 and that soft rough cut would snap like a potato chip/couldn't take the stress put on it. That is why they advise you to use a specific type of wood for the jack and knot free.
Good job. I see that you have attached 2x6s to the outside rim of the deck to prevent the wall sliding off the deck as it is raised. Good. Necessary that something be there for that purpose. (I would not feel comfortable relying on them to keep the wall from over rotating however.) I only used ones long enough to catch the bottom of the wall. I suggest that you attach straps to the deck and to the top plate long enough to permit raising the wall to vertical but short enough to prevent it from rotating much past vertical, as insurance against over enthusiastic jacking or a breeze sending the wall over and gone. Do the math and you'll know how long it needs to be. In response to some comments: The correct 2x4 to use with the jack is called "vertical grain." The strength of a vertical grain board is on the flat side, and that is what you need. The board needs to be clear, ie, no knots and "straight grain". Such a board is incredibly strong flatways and well up to the job, (unlike the standard grain board, which, as noted in the comments, is an accident waiting to happen. Standard grain board's strength is edgeways.) As you might expect, a clear vertical grain 2x4 of sufficient length is special order, and pricey, but when you are done, it can be used elsewhere, and is incredibly stable -- no warping. I note that you can, by yourself, easily, if tediously, raise a fully-sheathed-with-rated-plywood, 9' tall x 64' wall, with no fewer than 7 headers, with 3 of these jacks. I did, with no problem. Just tedious walking back and forth between jacks. I also note that sometimes on one of my QualCraft jacks the top gripper didn't want to let loose and required a tap of encouragement with a hammer. I also note, in response to some comments, that, with the bottom of the jack board secured to the deck, and with the jack under the top plate (not against a header), and with straps to prevent over-rotation, there is no "danger zone." Qual Craft provides a chart of how long the board needs to be according to the height of the wall.
@@canadianframing1013 I forgot to mention that the Qual Craft wall jack instructions specify "clear straight grained fir wood, free from all knots or defects". See "straight grain" image at kitchencabinetkings search the term in their glossary. This is what I refer to as "vertical grain." It is incredibly stable dimensionally. No warp, no twist.
That's about the max length I've done with two. Mine are qualcraft brand and I'm tempted to try drilling some holes in a 2x4 to fit over the handles so I can pump them from the floor, and not be in the "danger zone" on a ladder. Hoping that will work cause I'm always a bit nervous using them on longer walls!
We rest our knee on the 2x4 while pumping until its high enough to make a L corner out of a pre cut. Also shoot a nail through the top of a precut and stick it through the hole in the handle bend the nail over on the handle of the Jack and you wouldn’t need a ladder to pump those up.
When raising up to higher level only use a step ladder turned to face the wall and parallel to the jack line. If the wall jacking fails the wall will come down and drive the carpenter and ladder back out of the way. Second do not straddle the jacking 2x4 ever. It happens in less than an instant. I’ve seen it. Don’t be a catastrophe waiting to happen.
As a fellow builder, I say this with the utmost respect "What the F were you thinking" We all do sketchy shit everyday to get the job done, but that was nuts. It ain't worth your life. Glad everything worked out. Not trying to be a dick. Like and sub
Lol.heard that .but if people are there as they are here. you better figure out a way to do it short handed .I ve seen this work and trying to study this for the day coming is near.i to feel it s crazy.but I realized it's a fear of the unknown
It’s honestly very safe . I would never ever attempt this on a day with even the slightest breeze . As long as you go slow and set things up properly it’s safe . I’ve lifted 100’s of walls like this . In Alberta it’s tough to find good guys that show up on time and work hard for their paycheque. I often work alone 👍
The only critique I have would be to completely clear out your work area. If something goes wrong, you need to get away fast and not jump over obstacles. This might give you a fighting chance.
That is a nice way to put the wall up, but I wonder how long it took that one guy to put that wall up and how long it took to put the other side up alone. Those are the hardest part of the job as the end walls will be easier to put up and the is one thing I always wondered about when there isn't the laborers to install them. He also need bracing on the outside to make sure the walls don't go over the other way also.
Actually you don't, I screwed about 10 inch long pieces of duct strap to the bottom of the plate as it was literally on the line you would snap to the inside of the wall and then inwards to the inside, cut them off with a grinder when you are done....held zero perfectly no kick out. On my garage I just did...I did tapcon some 2x2's to the outside to prevent kickout....100 ways to skin a cat I guess. He did a good video here. I didn't video my 42 foot lift, but you have to be careful, they can snap and the wall can drop!
Hi there - is this wall jack the Sturdy Ladder brand? I'm thinking of bringing these into my business to sell - do you know a lot of framers who use this? It's hard to find reviews on this - only the Qualcraft brand on amazon, but it's way more costly than these guys. Do you still use these same jacks or have you had to replace them? Thanks!
Sorry, this is creepy watch the 2/4s flex and vibrate as you are pumping the wall up. Just did a 45’ wall ourselves with six jacks because of the weight of a 2/6 wall insulated, sided, and the headers over windows and sliders. Hopefully your 2/4s were centered over floor joists but with the weight on just those two 2/4s could punch a hole right through the sub floor in a weak spot. (We have cut squares of subfloor material so that we double the thickness beneath the 2/4 supports). I cringe at trying to save money at such a critical phase of construction. You have no room for error and like the earlier comment you place way to much confidence in just those two 2/4s. A friend had the wall supports snap and he had placed saw horses under the wall as a safety measure to catch the wall, just in case. The wall drove the saw horse legs right through the subfloor and the only thing that saved one of the workers was that he happen to be standing where a window was located when the wall came down. 75’ wall with three jacks? I hope you are not recommending other people try and do that. Sorry to be so critical but why test the max safety guidelines? Mine suggest max weight of 1000 lbs per 2/4 (clear 2/4 without knots) and just looking at your wall I’m guessing you were close or exceeding those guidelines. My concern is for people watching thinking if you do it then they can do it. They might not be so lucky. Stay safe…
Thanks for the reply . In my 21 years of framing I’ve lifted thousands of walls with jacks . This would be as big as I would do with 2 jacks . Good straight 2x4’s no knots . I wouldn’t do it if I didn’t think it was safe . Take care !! Stay safe as well !
I'm using 4 jacks for my 40'x9' wall, but I haven't done it before. The wall has several doors and windows with 2x12 headers too, technically based on what I calculated, 3 jacks will put approx. 800 lbs on each jack rated at 1k lbs so I'm doing 4 to be safe (noob). Thanks for the video glad I seen someone else doing this.
Bad way to teach young apprentices. Single 2x4 can snap and your done buddy. You have angels watching over you. Please dont follow this lead anyone. If one of those 2x4 snapped, it would be ugly. I cant watch it, does he die in the end?
Yes too much wall and denz for those 2xs. And why does everyone load the jack on the 2x4 first?? It's so much easier to put the jack under the wall first then drop the 2x4 in the jack in front of the roller. I Love these Jack's been using them for 25 years.
No densglass on the wall . 3/8 fire rated sheeting . This is about as big as I would do with 2 jacks . Did one the other day that was 68 feet and I had 4 jacks on it 👍
great video i have a 20’ and 18’ walls to lift onto a concrete slab with Anchor Bolts by myself! I hope i can do mine.
First off, the 2x jacks work wonders and thanks for the real time video! I finally bought a set of Proctor wall jacks. They weigh a lot, are bulky, and cost a small fortune (much less than a medical bill or unable to work for a couple of weeks with a tweeked back!) but now that I work alone most of the time I think the safety advantages outweigh the disadvantages. You always have a steel tube that is reliable, no more trying to find the best 2x's on site, you never have to stand under the wall until it is completely upright, and finally, it has stops at the end of the tube so the wall can't go over-center and fall off the deck edge. Thanks for the video, work safe, and have a great one!
Awesome !!! Thanks man
He puts a lot of faith in those 2x4s
Make sure there aren't any knots and use Doug fir/Larch not spruce. I've used these and it seemed dangerous until my framer and I jacked up the first wall
True, but the higher he goes is the less weight on them.
Next time when you lift the wall to about 7 ft, nail 7 ft 2x4 or 2x6 to those braces in a form of t-posts. This will keep them from snapping on you. Just make sure to put enough nails. Also, if it is windy, you can take 2 ropes of lengths (sqrt 2 x (height of wall)) and tie them to 2 straps nailed into a joist and top plate. Now you can be 99.9% sure that the wall will stay in place. For added safety, use ladders that are about the height of the wall, so that if the wall falls, it will push you off the ladder behind it.
I would use no less than 3 jacks on a 40' wall. That should put less than 1k lbs on each jack for a fully framed and sheathed 40' long by 9' tall wall. And includes a safety factor.
Great video!
Always wanted a pair of Jack's. Keep putting it off and call the plumbers, hvac, anyone I can to lift a long wall. Use to run a large crew wasn't any trouble. Can't find the help anymore time to buy me a few. Thanks for the video 👍
Prince Home Builders Inc. Prince . Thanks for the comments. More framing videos to come !! 👍
JOE FUGALLO HealingIsEasy . In Edmonton you can buy them at a place called general fasteners . Most stores that sell framing supplies such as fasteners and nail guns will carry wall jacks . 👍
I've been building a lot of years and I know when things go bad it happens really quick. I fell through some homemade scaffolding about a week ago. I was very lucky. Thanks for the video.
Good video 🎉
Wow, Good Job Brother.
Been a home builder for 47 years....never would I do this by myself. One wrong move and there goes the builder.
rjcontra . Things luckily worked out this time . Thanks for the comment !
You got that right I did 42' wall's 10' and on my second lift one of the 2x4's the jack ran up, snapped faster than you could say.........but only about 2 to 3 feet off the floor....you have to keep free from underside of this at all times or you are setting yourself up for some serious injury depending on the load it's lifting....however, going solo....these things rock!
Cause your a pussy
@@13612 I was thinking, there is no way I would do this with dimensional lumber for that very reason. I'd want those jacks climbing something like square steel tubing anchored with a major hinge.
@@byronlaw6724 You couldn't do it with true 2x4 stock, it has to be 1.5 by 3.5 and that soft rough cut would snap like a potato chip/couldn't take the stress put on it. That is why they advise you to use a specific type of wood for the jack and knot free.
Wow.Nice work!
Good job. I see that you have attached 2x6s to the outside rim of the deck to prevent the wall sliding off the deck as it is raised. Good. Necessary that something be there for that purpose. (I would not feel comfortable relying on them to keep the wall from over rotating however.) I only used ones long enough to catch the bottom of the wall. I suggest that you attach straps to the deck and to the top plate long enough to permit raising the wall to vertical but short enough to prevent it from rotating much past vertical, as insurance against over enthusiastic jacking or a breeze sending the wall over and gone. Do the math and you'll know how long it needs to be.
In response to some comments: The correct 2x4 to use with the jack is called "vertical grain." The strength of a vertical grain board is on the flat side, and that is what you need. The board needs to be clear, ie, no knots and "straight grain". Such a board is incredibly strong flatways and well up to the job, (unlike the standard grain board, which, as noted in the comments, is an accident waiting to happen. Standard grain board's strength is edgeways.) As you might expect, a clear vertical grain 2x4 of sufficient length is special order, and pricey, but when you are done, it can be used elsewhere, and is incredibly stable -- no warping.
I note that you can, by yourself, easily, if tediously, raise a fully-sheathed-with-rated-plywood, 9' tall x 64' wall, with no fewer than 7 headers, with 3 of these jacks. I did, with no problem. Just tedious walking back and forth between jacks.
I also note that sometimes on one of my QualCraft jacks the top gripper didn't want to let loose and required a tap of encouragement with a hammer.
I also note, in response to some comments, that, with the bottom of the jack board secured to the deck, and with the jack under the top plate (not against a header), and with straps to prevent over-rotation, there is no "danger zone."
Qual Craft provides a chart of how long the board needs to be according to the height of the wall.
Great info ! Thanks
@@canadianframing1013 I forgot to mention that the Qual Craft wall jack instructions specify "clear straight grained fir wood, free from all knots or
defects". See "straight grain" image at kitchencabinetkings search the term in their glossary. This is what I refer to as "vertical grain." It is incredibly stable dimensionally. No warp, no twist.
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hi i live in phoenix, where can i get that
That's about the max length I've done with two. Mine are qualcraft brand and I'm tempted to try drilling some holes in a 2x4 to fit over the handles so I can pump them from the floor, and not be in the "danger zone" on a ladder. Hoping that will work cause I'm always a bit nervous using them on longer walls!
We rest our knee on the 2x4 while pumping until its high enough to make a L corner out of a pre cut. Also shoot a nail through the top of a precut and stick it through the hole in the handle bend the nail over on the handle of the Jack and you wouldn’t need a ladder to pump those up.
Yes ! I know a few guys that do that as well . Definitely a good idea
When raising up to higher level only use a step ladder turned to face the wall and parallel to the jack line. If the wall jacking fails the wall will come down and drive the carpenter and ladder back out of the way. Second do not straddle the jacking 2x4 ever. It happens in less than an instant. I’ve seen it. Don’t be a catastrophe waiting to happen.
The ones with the hand crank or winch seem a lot safer as you don't have to get under the wall to lift it all the way up.
maybe a bar with a hinge would work for cranking on those jacks from a safe distance.
Good video.this is the only video I have come across that showed how to put the jacks on the poles/ 2x4.subbed#34 good luck with the channel.
Peter Kiernan thank you for the comment !! Lots more videos to come !
Bad ass man !!!
Thanks man. !
borrowed a set of these jacks from a nephew once i saw how they worked i wouldnt use them
As a fellow builder, I say this with the utmost respect "What the F were you thinking" We all do sketchy shit everyday to get the job done, but that was nuts. It ain't worth your life. Glad everything worked out. Not trying to be a dick. Like and sub
Lol.heard that .but if people are there as they are here. you better figure out a way to do it short handed .I ve seen this work and trying to study this for the day coming is near.i to feel it s crazy.but I realized it's a fear of the unknown
It’s honestly very safe . I would never ever attempt this on a day with even the slightest breeze . As long as you go slow and set things up properly it’s safe . I’ve lifted 100’s of walls like this . In Alberta it’s tough to find good guys that show up on time and work hard for their paycheque. I often work alone 👍
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My turn tomorrow wish me luck 😅 45 long by 10’.
The only critique I have would be to completely clear out your work area. If something goes wrong, you need to get away fast and not jump over obstacles. This might give you a fighting chance.
Hi have you ever had any problems with that kind of jacking system and I guess just pick out 2 sturdy 2 by 4 ?
I’ve lifted some huge walls and never had any problems . And yes just pick out a couple nice straight 2x4’s with little to no knots . 👍
I have a set use them all the time only way to do it
Whats up with the notches in the top plate?
When I build the interior walls I run the top plates 5 1/2” over and it ties into the exterior wall . 👍
If you don't want to spend $200 to buy these jacks, rent them.
That is a nice way to put the wall up, but I wonder how long it took that one guy to put that wall up and how long it took to put the other side up alone. Those are the hardest part of the job as the end walls will be easier to put up and the is one thing I always wondered about when there isn't the laborers to install them. He also need bracing on the outside to make sure the walls don't go over the other way also.
Actually you don't, I screwed about 10 inch long pieces of duct strap to the bottom of the plate as it was literally on the line you would snap to the inside of the wall and then inwards to the inside, cut them off with a grinder when you are done....held zero perfectly no kick out. On my garage I just did...I did tapcon some 2x2's to the outside to prevent kickout....100 ways to skin a cat I guess. He did a good video here. I didn't video my 42 foot lift, but you have to be careful, they can snap and the wall can drop!
what tool pouches are those on your sides? I like them
I got to do similar but on a slab - got to figure out how to get wall over the J-bolts and not damage the foam gasket... any ideas?
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The last few inches would freak me out...
Hahhah ! It’s a little sketchy for sure . Sometime I park my zoom boom behind it just in case ! Haha 😂
Hi there - is this wall jack the Sturdy Ladder brand? I'm thinking of bringing these into my business to sell - do you know a lot of framers who use this? It's hard to find reviews on this - only the Qualcraft brand on amazon, but it's way more costly than these guys. Do you still use these same jacks or have you had to replace them? Thanks!
Hey ! To be honest I’m not too sure what the exact brand name is . I’ve had these for prob 20 years and use them all the time !
Do you need an extension ladder when u lift gables?
I would do it with some metal Jack's, definitely not those things!
The Funk hey ! These are metal jacks . Thanks for the comment !
The poles aren't Momo!
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@@canadianframing1013 My bad,you can't afford a real set of Wall Jacks😂🖕🖕
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DONT you just hate it when it rains on your new deck?
Absolutely!! Can’t stand that ! Haha
looks like a dangerous job ...
I'm going to say good job before I watch because I know it works.
I’m using 3 jacks on my 44’ 2x6x8’ walls... 2 looks kinda scary!
It wasn’t too bad . 3 jacks is nice ! The longest wall I’ve ever done was a wall that was 75feet long and I used 3 jacks . 👍
Sorry, this is creepy watch the 2/4s flex and vibrate as you are pumping the wall up. Just did a 45’ wall ourselves with six jacks because of the weight of a 2/6 wall insulated, sided, and the headers over windows and sliders. Hopefully your 2/4s were centered over floor joists but with the weight on just those two 2/4s could punch a hole right through the sub floor in a weak spot. (We have cut squares of subfloor material so that we double the thickness beneath the 2/4 supports). I cringe at trying to save money at such a critical phase of construction. You have no room for error and like the earlier comment you place way to much confidence in just those two 2/4s. A friend had the wall supports snap and he had placed saw horses under the wall as a safety measure to catch the wall, just in case. The wall drove the saw horse legs right through the subfloor and the only thing that saved one of the workers was that he happen to be standing where a window was located when the wall came down. 75’ wall with three jacks? I hope you are not recommending other people try and do that. Sorry to be so critical but why test the max safety guidelines? Mine suggest max weight of 1000 lbs per 2/4 (clear 2/4 without knots) and just looking at your wall I’m guessing you were close or exceeding those guidelines. My concern is for people watching thinking if you do it then they can do it. They might not be so lucky. Stay safe…
Thanks for the reply . In my 21 years of framing I’ve lifted thousands of walls with jacks . This would be as big as I would do with 2 jacks . Good straight 2x4’s no knots . I wouldn’t do it if I didn’t think it was safe . Take care !! Stay safe as well !
I'm using 4 jacks for my 40'x9' wall, but I haven't done it before. The wall has several doors and windows with 2x12 headers too, technically based on what I calculated, 3 jacks will put approx. 800 lbs on each jack rated at 1k lbs so I'm doing 4 to be safe (noob). Thanks for the video glad I seen someone else doing this.
pretty bad when you fear the jacks your using / proctor cable lifts with wall stops the way to go
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I don’t understand the physics of this
Bad way to teach young apprentices. Single 2x4 can snap and your done buddy. You have angels watching over you. Please dont follow this lead anyone. If one of those 2x4 snapped, it would be ugly. I cant watch it, does he die in the end?
Lol 😂. Been framing 21 years . Lifted 100’s of walls like this . It’s more than safe . Thanks bud
the weight of the wall transfers to the deck as you go up
Yes too much wall and denz for those 2xs. And why does everyone load the jack on the 2x4 first?? It's so much easier to put the jack under the wall first then drop the 2x4 in the jack in front of the roller. I Love these Jack's been using them for 25 years.
No densglass on the wall . 3/8 fire rated sheeting . This is about as big as I would do with 2 jacks . Did one the other day that was 68 feet and I had 4 jacks on it 👍
I'll never understand why people sheathe walls before raising them. You're just making more work for yourself.
It’s easier to sheet them after 20 feet in the air ?? That’s working backwards .
Is the best and easy way to do it !!!
hey ive even sided them with overhangs inplace with the pine primed and gutters installed >>but i have a set of proctor cable jacks with stops