World War II Pilot Tells a Brutal True Story

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  • Опубліковано 2 бер 2023
  • This is the second episode on Ed McNeff in my Saving History series Ed was a P-51 Mustang pilot in the 355th Fighter Group in 1944 and 1945. This video is about two difficult missions with his wingmen, Ben Johnston and Norm Olson. It also includes a run in with skilled German FW-190 ace Heinz Bar. If you want to watch the other videos from Ed's story, you can find them here!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 239

  • @mgweible8162
    @mgweible8162 Рік тому +116

    In your effort to preserve history, this magnificent gentleman will live on forever as well. Love and respect what you do TJ, Stay Awesome!

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  Рік тому +9

      Thank you!

    • @josecabezas6159
      @josecabezas6159 Рік тому +2

      eroe respetos a ti p0r america

    • @LETOUR7TIMESFRANCE
      @LETOUR7TIMESFRANCE 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TJ3Keep up the great work bud!!

    • @mastathrash5609
      @mastathrash5609 4 місяці тому +1

      I really appreciate anyone who is trying to keep these memories from this generation.

  • @MUSTANG_P51
    @MUSTANG_P51 Рік тому +59

    Thank you for another great story of the P51 and it’s pilot!! Hearing Ed’s story is truly incredible and I hope all this is taught to the future generations of American military aviators! Thank you for saving another piece of history!

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  Рік тому +7

      Thank you!

  • @petej.8676
    @petej.8676 Рік тому +268

    Just think..kids were flying these magnificent planes soon after high school..kids today can't drive a stick shift car...My respects ✌️

    • @BullGator-kd6ge
      @BullGator-kd6ge Рік тому +31

      I’m 18 and I’d rather learn to fly a Mustang than any car, any day.

    • @coolsurfer1785
      @coolsurfer1785 Рік тому +1

      You say it as casual as they kids think nowadays and disrespectful to call that generation old guys

    • @petej.8676
      @petej.8676 Рік тому +17

      @@coolsurfer1785 what?

    • @timcullerton2392
      @timcullerton2392 Рік тому +6

      ​​@@BullGator-kd6ge my Uncle, Bill Cullerton, was Lt. Olson's replacement in OS-X and in his later years drove a white Ford Mustang with the 355FG/357FS "Licking Dragon" logo...so, the best of both worlds. 😄

    • @christosvoskresye
      @christosvoskresye Рік тому +12

      These were not kids. These were MEN, and they had earned the respect of manhood. It is a shame of our society that perpetual childhood is now an option.

  • @donnabonning5587
    @donnabonning5587 Рік тому +27

    Absolutely amazing!! What brave heros these men were. Supermen! Thankyou for giving Edward McNeff the means to tell his story!

  • @LancelotChan
    @LancelotChan Рік тому +71

    Thank you very much for saving history. It was obviously hard for Ed to tell the story about those losses, even after all the years.

    • @ottenstar4901
      @ottenstar4901 Рік тому +1

      Flying is actually easier to fly than drive a car, planes don't have transmission

  • @brianjschumer
    @brianjschumer Рік тому +26

    Alot of the surviving pilots of both countries, got together later after the war. I remember in a book, it might have been the number #2 ace in a P-47, who said after speaking with a few of the German aces about tactics, planes, kills, efforts, said.. and im quoting..im glad i didnt run into a few of those guys..i probably couldnt have taken them down..

  • @331SVTCobra
    @331SVTCobra Рік тому +7

    WW2 Vets rock.
    When I started working back in the 80s we had quite a few vets. One flew P-38s, one was on the Gambier Bay, my boss had been on a destroyer, cool stories. The Gambier Bay guy still had the thousand yard stare whenever he'd remember floating in the water for three days though.

  • @patrickyoung3503
    @patrickyoung3503 Рік тому +6

    The courage of the flyers was never doubt , they had to learn quickly & became skilled in double quick time . They are all hero's to me . Honour & Respect . Lest we forget .

  • @michaelharman9421
    @michaelharman9421 Рік тому +15

    After completing three tour on Lancaster bombers( 90 missions) my uncle Bill Winchester was given the choice of what he wanted to fly. He chose fighters . He said he came closest to being killed in the war when he did a ground attack . After all those missions in Lancs l think this really scared the crap out of him

  • @supercat4539
    @supercat4539 Рік тому +18

    These men were the best generation of America

    • @ralphshelley9586
      @ralphshelley9586 Рік тому

      They wanted out a depression America to do something good! Prove themselves!

  • @jimc6687
    @jimc6687 Рік тому +12

    Once again, TJ..........superb reporting/storyline plus graphics along with this great personable WW II hero's interview with Ed McNeff!! Great work buddy!! Jim C.

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  Рік тому +2

      Thanks Jim!

  • @artawhirler
    @artawhirler Рік тому +22

    Ed McNeff's story is fascinating! Thanks for bringing it to us!

  • @joevanseeters2873
    @joevanseeters2873 Рік тому +11

    The Focke Wulf 190 "Butcher Bird" was not an aircraft to play around with. In the hands of a skilled pilot (which most German Pilot's were) it was a deadly machine. As good as the P-51's were, the Pilots knew when they engaged an FW190, they had to be at the very top of their game. What the FW190 had was durability and speed! It was very similar to a P-47 Thunderbolt in that respect, it could take a massive beating and still keep on flying. The FW-190 was the most advanced aircraft of that time having many "firsts in aviation" in regards to it's equipment and technology including it's revolutionary engine design and cooling system, and it was also the first fighter aircraft to employ rockets. The Pilots that converted over to the FW190 loved the aircraft and knew it was a stellar leap ahead in technology and aircraft design compared to that of the BF109's that most of them flew previously.

  • @Rhaman68
    @Rhaman68 Рік тому +17

    For clarification, a flight is made up of a leader and a wingman. In flights of four, two elements, the flight leader and wingman. You mentioned wingman but referencing to the flight leader. In this case, the wingman lost sight of the leader. Ret USAF pilot Thanks.

  • @TJ3
    @TJ3  Рік тому +27

    Know a living veteran of the air war? Please fill out this form ASAP so we can tell their story! forms.gle/7ENUMDdC87uQ1pgy6 And if you enjoyed this video, please consider supporting my hard work here so I can continue to do this. Patreon.com/TJ3History
    If you want to watch the other videos from Ed's story, you can find them here!
    Episode 1: ua-cam.com/video/w2xWt6SECnY/v-deo.html
    Episode 3: ua-cam.com/video/hB07c0fmh_U/v-deo.html

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +2

      Please keep up these video's. Because they show what a fighter pilot went through in WWII.

    • @aprilgeneric8027
      @aprilgeneric8027 Рік тому

      Lt. Richard Berthiaume F4 pilot on a carrier in the pacific, passed away on August 30 2009, at age 86 from alzheimers. his business partner Capt. Wayne Reithermiller B-17 pilot G and K group lost 3 fortresses and 2 whole air crews, one ditched in the channel and 2 barely made it to landing before burning up, was run over by a grandmother while bicycling home from the grocery store May 16, 2006, at age 88....now that man had an interesting life, and his kids have his photo albums (Mary Lou) from the war that were some stunning photos, i scanned a few of the most shocking ones in the few hours i had access to one of the photo albums at his funeral, the most heart wrenching is his attempts to get some one to try and save his ball turret gunner who was badly wounded before he was burned alive due to hydraulic failure and turret damage from flak the photo he saved as just before the fire moved aft of the left win and was midway down the frame moving outward from the wings with the tail to the head winds as they parked on the taxiway to try and save many horrible wounded in the rear of the plane that was missing sections and panels from horrific flak damage that blew off most of the left tail and into the rudder. no idea who the camera man was but photos were spectacular in clarity and scope captured.
      herald-journal.com/obits/2006/riethmiller0506.html

    • @Bambihunter1971
      @Bambihunter1971 Рік тому

      Do you by chance know where this Ed McNeff was from and/or family info? I ask because my late fathers sisters married name is McNeff (From a small town in Nebraska) and they have kid(s) named Edward that age-wise (mid-60s I'd guess) and could be about grandson age. It isn't that common of a name and while not a 'dead ringer', he does kind of bear that family resemblance.

    • @jonathanbair523
      @jonathanbair523 Рік тому

      Please link all the videos together... I only see 2 of 3 of his videos....

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  Рік тому

      All links are now above!

  • @scottzipse23
    @scottzipse23 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for your service glad you made it

  • @mircogavagnin8375
    @mircogavagnin8375 Рік тому +7

    The german ace was Major Heinz Bär.

  • @abbottsplace8080
    @abbottsplace8080 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the great videos. Well done! Amazing true stories like these are valuable to preserve.

  • @scottmccloud9029
    @scottmccloud9029 Рік тому +7

    Great series man. Keep em comin.

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  Рік тому +1

      Thanks!

  • @timothycavaretta3979
    @timothycavaretta3979 10 місяців тому

    One of the best WW 11 air war documentaries I've seen. Great Job!

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  10 місяців тому

      Thank you!

  • @woody3590
    @woody3590 Рік тому +14

    My dad was a pilot during the second world war and he never talked about it.

    • @kevinfraser573
      @kevinfraser573 Рік тому

      I spoke to a B17 pilot in the 80's. His family knew nothing post war. He kept everything to himself. He was shot down on March 6, 44 on his 17th mission to Berlin and became a pow. The captain bailed out and was never seen again. Some Germans would shoot you in the chute or locals would kill you upon landing

    • @bluskytoo
      @bluskytoo Рік тому +1

      my dad was on B-24s as a nav, he had screaming nightmares every night when i was growing up.

    • @jamesburns2232
      @jamesburns2232 Рік тому +1

      @@bluskytoo My Dad was a SSGT. Infantry Platoon Leader. He was in combat for 3 years in the 129th infantry division and 2nd Battalion. He had PTSD from being wounded 3 times, once in the head, once in the back, and once in the elbow.
      He told me that the "Fly Boys" had it easy and had he not been color blind, he would have liked to have been a pilot. 🤠

    • @bluskytoo
      @bluskytoo Рік тому +1

      @@jamesburns2232 thats funny as my dad would say At least the ground pounders could get in a hole, lol

  • @robertzedeker3234
    @robertzedeker3234 Рік тому +2

    My father’ s B 24 (Flak Magnet) was Bar ‘s 200th kill.

  • @xavidoc372
    @xavidoc372 Рік тому +2

    Just amazing, great job 👏👏👏

  • @memememe522
    @memememe522 Рік тому +1

    Good story. Thanks for your work.

  • @traxel14
    @traxel14 Рік тому +6

    I speak German: The Ace's correct name was: Oskar-Heinrich Bär, pronounced as "bear" in English! The name of this animal, a bear, in German is also "Bär " (bear).

  • @bonvion961
    @bonvion961 Рік тому +2

    Amazing video TJ!

  • @ronald8673
    @ronald8673 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video of another true hero.

  • @rjwohlman
    @rjwohlman Рік тому +2

    Man, that was great!

  • @joelies3604
    @joelies3604 Рік тому +1

    Hell ya safe history! I love these videos!!

  • @terrycook477
    @terrycook477 10 місяців тому +1

    These are valuable stories. When I was younger I heard many many WWII veterans tell remarkable stories of fear, fate, miracles and historical events. One of the most remarkable was a veteran from England that was with the Queens Coventry Guards that were the when Rudolph Hess was captured. He said something was very strange about that event that was secret.

    • @oudude8770
      @oudude8770 4 місяці тому

      Could you elaborate more on that event?

  • @gar6446
    @gar6446 Рік тому +4

    Strafing airfields with fighters wasn't really worth it .
    The losses were horrific, the mental anguish of facing the flak was debilitating, and Germany never had an aircraft shortage. It was fuel and pilots they lacked.
    Plus, the German flak gunners were well equipped,highly experienced, and skilled. They got a lot of practice.
    Going back for a second run was frowned upon, and three passes was foolhardy.
    Perhaps his previous experience with the P-47 had an effect.
    The P-47 was much more suitable for this sort of venture, not least because it could build up tremendous speed in a dive onto target.
    Plus it was far more rugged than a P-51

  • @theminutemen1275
    @theminutemen1275 Рік тому +1

    You should put Part II in the description. After watching the first I almost gave up on finding the second. This one was 2 months old - so I made my best guess. Just want to see your channel do well. Anyone who watches the first will want to see the 2nd part!

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  Рік тому +1

      Good idea!

  • @stevemaynards.g.t
    @stevemaynards.g.t Рік тому +2

    Great story TJ tho sad ed have good memories look forward to part 3.

  • @KennethColeman-ke1mh
    @KennethColeman-ke1mh Рік тому +1

    Thanks ed for the sacrifice you and your friends made

  • @stlrockn
    @stlrockn Рік тому +1

    Powerful story. Good post.

  • @billcotton1551
    @billcotton1551 Рік тому

    This a great series about Ed!

  • @rikijett310
    @rikijett310 Рік тому +2

    Wow!!!! Thank you endlessly Ed!!! May God bless you always!!! ✝️🇺🇲✝️

  • @morgan79347
    @morgan79347 6 місяців тому +1

    My aunt worked at the factory that made these P 51 mustang‘s during the war

  • @pascalchauvet4230
    @pascalchauvet4230 Рік тому +9

    A third pass on the German airfield wasn't just dangerous, it was clearly suicidal.
    The leader must have known, he also put the life of his wingman in jeopardy.
    Moreover it was tactical nonsense, if he hadn't done this he would not only have survived, but been able to strike German airfields many more times

    • @Jaegertiger
      @Jaegertiger Рік тому +4

      AGREED...
      How many times can one flick a match at a can of gasoline before it explodes? Same principle at play.

    • @chrisdavis3642
      @chrisdavis3642 Рік тому +1

      Fixation is a strange thing!!

    • @johnshields9110
      @johnshields9110 Рік тому +2

      Making a 3rd pass was at the least a poor decision. The wing men and other tailend planes usually catch Hell as the gunners are ready. One tale as told by an Allied pilot that when strafing a certain air feild they broke out over the bordering woods regualrly. On a re-visit as he peeled into the woods he heard 'LOOL DOWN" --a seperate new machine gun placement had been setup to shoot them down on the out route! He called it out, pulled a tight 90-90-90 upward turn and then dove straight down on them burning them to bits with all 8 50 cals roaring full. He then flanked out low and made another pas striaight down the road way the guns had been driven out into the woods, and empitied his guns into the entrance o the woods, and last full vollies into the remants of the guns. He said God called that one break out to him!

  • @hariszark7396
    @hariszark7396 Рік тому +3

    I want to see part 10 or more of Ed's story here.

  • @plunkervillerr1529
    @plunkervillerr1529 Рік тому

    Outstanding job .

  • @electron4784
    @electron4784 Рік тому

    that was really good thanks

  • @james8156
    @james8156 Рік тому

    God Bless you sir and from my heart I thank you and I owe my freedom to you and others who served❤️🙏🏻🇺🇸

  • @guardianminifarm8005
    @guardianminifarm8005 Рік тому

    Well done. Thanks

  • @upside721
    @upside721 Рік тому

    What a great story and visual reenactment. Thank you. The story reminds me how evil war is. Good men on both sides conditioned to kill or be killed. Blood sacrifice, for the deceptive and highly manipulative ultra righteous, not pure human, who hate all of us and started all major wars in the last 200 years, and funded both sides to get their planned outcome. For us humans who love life, it is extra sad when our fighting men kill unarmed civilians.

  • @walterbates1654
    @walterbates1654 Рік тому

    Feeding the UA-cam algorithm. Informative video. Thanks.

  • @edsims719
    @edsims719 Рік тому +1

    Great story. Ed is an American hero. However Ben was not Ed's wingman. He was the leader. Ed was the wingman. Thanks TJ!

  • @cmdrspidey0026
    @cmdrspidey0026 Рік тому +1

    Whoo! We get THREE parts to Ed’s story!

  • @xvsj5833
    @xvsj5833 Рік тому +4

    ❤❤❤Thank you for your service 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍

  • @davidharris7235
    @davidharris7235 Рік тому +2

    Ed, I wish I could shake your hand and tell you how much I admire you for your braveness and heroics. God bless you.

  • @DarkViperGaming
    @DarkViperGaming Рік тому

    This is what gives me hope in grinding war thunder

  • @eddiehaskell1957
    @eddiehaskell1957 Рік тому

    First time on your channel. I enjoyed the video and your narration was excellent. I had to shush my wife because i was enthralled by your unique voice.

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  Рік тому

      Thank you!

  • @williamromine5715
    @williamromine5715 Рік тому +11

    Having lossy his lead two days running, I'll bet there were a number of pilots who really didn't want him for a wingman.
    The problem with the Mustang doing ground strafing was that it couldn't take much punishment from enemy fire. The P47 would take numerous hits, and still get home. The P51 was a very pretty plane, but when it came a brawl, the Jug was the plane you wanted to be flying.

    • @drgondog
      @drgondog Рік тому +5

      Slippery logic. If you mean 'air to air' brawl the P-47 lost a higher % of pilots to LW in ETO by nearly 50% on a credit vs loss basis. (10:1 P-51 vs 7:1 P-47). If you look at airfield strafing the ratios are about to same (5.6:1 for P-51 strafing credits vs losses vs 3.7:1 for P-47 ratio). The TOTAL number of aircraft lost in boh categories belong to the P-51 because they flew so many more sorties than the P-47 and they were strafing airfields east of Berlin and Czechslovakia while P-47s were strafing from France to western Germany.
      The loss per sortie rate of the P51 vs F4U were only very slightly higher for the Mustang. A major factor in both wars is the the Mustang had to fly twice as far to return with damaged airplane.

  • @Wadaryu1000
    @Wadaryu1000 Рік тому

    Lest we forget, Respect.

  • @RichardMartin-wk3gy
    @RichardMartin-wk3gy Рік тому

    I saw the Movie maid from Ed's story... Thanks Ed!...

  • @EnterpriseXI
    @EnterpriseXI Рік тому

    With experience can also come over confidence

  • @moonshineofthemoon8054
    @moonshineofthemoon8054 Рік тому +1

    Please do a story on about Saburo Sakai please!

  • @davidgrossman9859
    @davidgrossman9859 Рік тому +2

    This is a great story- I'm confused, who is the wingman and who is the Flight Leader?

  • @franken-aye1177
    @franken-aye1177 Рік тому

    God Bless you sir.

  • @dylanbulinsky5637
    @dylanbulinsky5637 Рік тому

    amazing we need the rest noooow

  • @stedyone1090
    @stedyone1090 Рік тому

    Very nice 👌 👍

  • @allencadora1808
    @allencadora1808 Рік тому

    Hey I just was curious about what sim you use. Is it DCS or something else?

  • @poppaset
    @poppaset 9 місяців тому

    IOoooo-rah. Well done.

  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy1 Рік тому

    thanks TJ3

  • @nolanbowen8800
    @nolanbowen8800 Рік тому +1

    That's a great story! It's too bad Olsen strafed one time too many and it's too bad they didn't get behind Bar and take him out. How do I find the first episode on Mr. McNeff?

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  Рік тому

      Check my channel! It's called a P51 Story You Won't Believe

  • @timf6916
    @timf6916 Рік тому

    Good job

  • @soundknight
    @soundknight 9 місяців тому +1

    Live by the sword, die by the sword.

  • @MrSebfrench76
    @MrSebfrench76 Рік тому

    Question: weren't the P 51 Bs equiped with drop tanks while escorting the bombers?

  • @chriseidam7319
    @chriseidam7319 Рік тому +2

    Have you done a feature on Bruce Sunlun yet? His story would make a great movie.

    • @davidharris7235
      @davidharris7235 Рік тому +1

      I worked briefly for the company in which he was the CEO. Also a Governor to my state.

    • @chriseidam7319
      @chriseidam7319 Рік тому

      @@davidharris7235
      I live in PVD.
      I think he is the best, most-honest guv we have had in my lifetime. People resented him closing the credit unions, but it had to be done. I guess it cost him re-election.
      Either way, his WWll pilot story is remarkable and certainly worthy of a feature.

  • @krukpolny8505
    @krukpolny8505 Рік тому +1

    Mustang P-51 D III FX 878 Siwek Kazimierz Pilot 315 Oficer RAF Kill 3 German FW 190 in 1 Flying.

  • @iztheterribleable
    @iztheterribleable Рік тому +1

    Please find the last mission of bombers in ww2. My father in law flew b29s out of Guam and was told his plane happened to drop the last bombs on japan.

  • @usmilitarykid.7625
    @usmilitarykid.7625 Рік тому +6

    I would of done my great grandpa he died 3 years ago he was a bottom ball turret gunner

  • @henryvanderbeek2973
    @henryvanderbeek2973 Рік тому

    I'm no pilot and no expert on air combat, but when Ed said that his wingman wanted to do just the 2nd pass on an airfield, I thought...that's crazy...that's just asking for trouble....and if you get into trouble at low altitude, you can't bail out....make one pass and be done with it....catch them off guard....run and gun.....

  • @T_bone
    @T_bone Рік тому

    Wow!

  • @MrHuggybear62
    @MrHuggybear62 Рік тому +2

    My respect goes to the men who flew in the best plane the US had

  • @Ser_Redshirt
    @Ser_Redshirt Рік тому +1

    Optimistic to think his wingman was still alive when he went in.

  • @chipsawdust5816
    @chipsawdust5816 Рік тому

    Ed was the wingman, Ben was the leader. You got that backwards in the narration.
    Other than that, good vid. :)

  • @ronbyers9912
    @ronbyers9912 10 місяців тому

    The classic pilot saying of WWII was "one pass, hall ass."

  • @haroldmclean3755
    @haroldmclean3755 Рік тому

    Never a Dull moment

  • @mikemckenzie8230
    @mikemckenzie8230 Рік тому

    Which book was McNeff referring to?

  • @janiceduke1205
    @janiceduke1205 Рік тому

    🫡 Thank you for your service! 💯✨‼

  • @ariveitz1941
    @ariveitz1941 9 місяців тому

    The only guy I know who flew WW2 was my Dad 34 Squadron SAAF Liberators

  • @robertbowers9856
    @robertbowers9856 Рік тому

    The story begins, my birth month and year!

  • @eddierxx124
    @eddierxx124 Рік тому

    Did not realise the old types of P51 were still flying as late as ‘44

    • @warbuzzard7167
      @warbuzzard7167 Рік тому +1

      The B model was actually faster than the D model. Pilots were happy to trade their B models for D models because the frameless "bubble" canopies more than offset the speed advantage - there were no cockpit frames or high turtledecks to get in the way of a pilot seeing an enemy fighter sneaking up on them.

  • @kahuna210
    @kahuna210 Рік тому

    how about a video on joe foss marine ace in Guadalcanal

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  Рік тому

      On my list

  • @ksman9087
    @ksman9087 Рік тому

    When you are a wingman the other plane is your leader. The narrator seems to get this mixed up in this video.

  • @aprilgeneric8027
    @aprilgeneric8027 Рік тому

    north dakotans, renowned for pheasant hunting, if you can shot down a pheasant, you can shoot down anything.

  • @MrJubbey
    @MrJubbey Рік тому

    That B model sure wasn't as beautiful as the D model .

  • @jamiepool1612
    @jamiepool1612 Рік тому

    Hello my name is Jamie pool I know a pilot who has a gun at first I went to Waze gun gun gun to Waze gun and then fried gun and a B-17 bomber and crash learned it in Germany and was in the hospital and body cast for a year before the war was over

  • @oceanhome2023
    @oceanhome2023 2 місяці тому

    We asked a lot from these young men and they came through for us in spades !!!!

  • @calwolfe3094
    @calwolfe3094 Рік тому

    TRUE American Heros!

  • @drpoundsign
    @drpoundsign Рік тому

    "Sheldon, I DRINK. And, when my Wingman is The Green Lantern...I drink a LOT!"
    -Koothrappali
    "The Big Bang Theory.
    Couldn't Resist.

  • @samkangal8428
    @samkangal8428 Рік тому

    Those aitbattles are fazinating.

  • @alanv7464
    @alanv7464 Рік тому +1

    The old crusty guy just didn't care anymore...I bet he was just done.

  • @johnkidd1226
    @johnkidd1226 Рік тому

    My golfing buddy was piloting a Lancaster 4 engine bomber over Germany at 18 years old. He wasnt yet 21 when the war was over but he'd done his missions, lost a lot of friends and was an instructor by 1945. He still wasnt old enough to vote or drink as a civilian when he got home.

  • @icosthop9998
    @icosthop9998 Місяць тому

    I want to be a *"**#Patron_Member**"* to this channel, but *"Patron"* is not allowing me to "Decouple" from being a *"**#Patron_Member**"* to, "Wide World of Trains" . 🤷🏼‍♀️
    I want to drop "WWoT" first.
    Any suggestions ?❔️

  • @edward8841
    @edward8841 11 місяців тому

    Norm Olsen pushing his luck with 3 passes on a airfield. Bad karma shooting down a defenseless pilot attempting to land his plane.

  • @TheBlackNight211
    @TheBlackNight211 Рік тому

    So did he die from flak or did he kamkikazi into the buildings?

    • @mikelagaffe
      @mikelagaffe Рік тому

      probably got hit in his cockpit and passed out due to blood loss, then spiraled to the ground uncontrolled

    • @TheBlackNight211
      @TheBlackNight211 Рік тому

      @@mikelagaffe mabey

  • @petefroehling8704
    @petefroehling8704 Рік тому

    what source are the german records of victorys would to see this myself

    • @TJ3
      @TJ3  Рік тому

      Wikipedia has a very good list of victories for most of the top German aces. That's where this one is. You can find it with a quick Google search.

    • @andreperrault5393
      @andreperrault5393 Рік тому

      Maybe Pete is asking where in Germany are the primary source (original records) kept that Wikipedia used?

    • @johneyon5257
      @johneyon5257 Рік тому

      @@andreperrault5393- check out the footnotes in wiki articles - that's where sources are named - if not in the body of the article

  • @cjn585
    @cjn585 Рік тому +2

    How could Ed be a wingman then lose his lead and then return home without his wingman…what am I missing

    • @johneyon5257
      @johneyon5257 Рік тому +3

      the narrator seems to be confused - rookie Ed McNeff would have been the wingman to his leader Ben Johnston - but the narrator kept referring to them both as wingman - resulting in a very confusing narration

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway Рік тому

      He’s using wingman like ‘partner’. Get over it.

    • @johneyon5257
      @johneyon5257 Рік тому

      @@CorePathway - no one should get over it - "wingman" has a precise meaning in the aeronautics community - it's sloppiness to misuse it without first clarifying it as an ad hoc usage