Considering the sky itself is “fake”, there is no reason to believe the floating formation we see in said sky is really Celestia. If celestia is as taboo to speak about as it seems going by how vague the archons tend to be when discussing it, then just pointing up at some floating rocks in the sky and calling it Celestia can be an easy to use misdirect.
Celestia has a massive center struture protruding above... Just like enkanomiya's masassive center structure... but on the opening screen.. it has infinite space and no center structure.
Theory: scaramouche said the sky is fake. So what if the sky we see at the start of the game is actually the real sky, and the clouds are the fake sky that covers the real one up. It may also be that celestia uses the pillars to hold up the sky and can drop a pillar like a missile whenever want to.
Or as in one theory I have heard, if the sky is fake, the real sky could just as well be below the ground. The whole Teyvat would be upside down, and the "upside down" city we encounter in the Chasm would be in the correct position. And "heading down" the spiral abyss, we would actually be going upwards, to the real sky.
@@PanRobak. But if tevyat's planet is round, shouldn't go up means going up and down meaning also going up? If you're going up high enough, shouldn't there be also the real sky?
I think Celestia will be technologically advanced, with machines with more sleek designs compared to the ruin machines of Khaenri'ah. This is because of the Shogun Puppet, since the means to create her were not new. The pillars in the sky can definitely be the Heavenly Realm long abandoned after the loss of the primordial one, now it is a border where outlanders can enter and exit Teyvat.
Thanks for the new information! I would have never been able to arrived that the conclusion that Teyvat is an area sealed off by the Celestia gods, since exiting it is forbidden.
I personally feel that could be the realm between all the worlds. The twins were trying to escape tevyat and go into another world. I personally think it wouldn't make sense if they go into the heaven realm. So the gate could also mean that the twins are 're-entering' teyvat. It could also be theorized that the gaps between the pillars are pockets between the worlds and the twins dropped down in one specific pocket which would make sense why they were perhaps meteors ? This is probably highly inaccurate and your theory does sound more plausible haha
I think that the loading screen is the gateway between worlds. We see it in the opening cutscene when the twins are trying to leave Teyvat and go onto the next world, and it’s also the loading screen. It’s like every time we open up the game again we tried to leave Teyvat and managed to get back to that place but we keep getting to the same door every single time. I think that there’s more doors on the loading screen that lead to other worlds but we can’t access them yet. If you think about it, it would be a great way to keep the game going and would even explain why the game trailer says “Teyvat Chapter”. Lemme know what you think :)
I just noticed that when the cutscene started where the twins were in a meteor, they flew over the *present* teyvat and not 500 years ago during the cataclysm. Does this mean our twin was sent to the past, instead of us being sent to the future?
Nah they actually came here during the cataclysm, I think that scene doesn’t have any relevance. As for the other twin, i think they didn’t get sent there but rather they got stuck there and the twin that we chose got put to sleep for 500 years
@@mango_776 no actually they came before 600-1000 years ago (think aether is traveler) lumine awaked in that time but travel didn't so lumine started her own journey with dainsleif and after completing it they started to build there own country but it got desroyed 500 years ago in that time lumine forcefully wakes up aether and they try to run from this world but that's when they met that celestia lady. lumine got thrown in abyss because of her powerful nation crime and aether got sleep for 500 years again or forgotten time god helped him to go in the future. It's only my theory.
@@mango_776 Yeah, whoever you chose (Aether or Lumine) both reveal that their other twin awoke first and was the one to tell them that they need to leave Teyvat or at the time Khaenri’ah. In the “We will be reunited” The other twin stated that they have already traveled through Teyvat once and encourage our twin to seek the truth of this world.
Now that I’m looking closer at the sprite of the floating island, the structure looks like a larger version of Dainichi Mikoshi. Since we know that the Dainichi Mikoshi can be turned on and off, I wonder if this structure can as well, and whether this function has something to do with the false sky that Scaramouche mentioned.
I never thought it was Celestia because it lacked “building” buildings. My initial thought was it’s like crossways between worlds. In the opening, it seemed like they were about to leave the world they were just in to the next. They might have come close to Teyvat gateway, or was the world they were going to. Before they can leave or enter, they were stopped by the Sustainer to punish them. I don’t think world jumping is the transgression. If so, Alice would also be a convict. I think their existence is what goes against their Heavenly Principles. As stated before, all must are to be affected by erosion. But the twins might be unaffected by erosion. Hence, why the Sustainer attacked them. Why they’re not being hunted, I don’t know, but they also don’t have all their powers back and are trapped in Teyvat. Maybe this is a way for Celestia to keep an eye on them. Hold them on their domain.
I’m pretty sure the sustainer attacked them because our twin fought against Celestia alongside Khaneriah and the abyss during the cataclysm. According to lore, the twin explored Teyvat with Dainsleif whilst we were sleeping and after the cataclysm, the sibling woke us up so we could move to the next world
@@shineod613 It was a fact when I posted it and it's even more of a fact now. Play the game, the Schwanenritter were absolutely fighting the Abyss in Sumeru, and we know that Dain personally fought to protect the Vourukasha Oasis.
One connection we see between 'heaven' and Celestia is the gold symbol shared between the heavenly pillars and the statues of the seven. Oddly enough, it's also a symbol littered all over Paimon.
1:43 I’m quite sure that Venti also confirms the existence of lakes or other water bodies in Celestia in one of his voicelines, where he talks about how foul the water the water there tastes, and how bland the fruit is.
@@honeymoons6759 More About Venti: IV "Celestia... I'm not sure even I could fly that far. In any case, the water there tastes foul, and the fruit is bland. You know what that means? No cider! Haha, in that case, I wouldn't go there even if I was invited." He was talking about both
It does make sense if we think about how the doors open to us whenever we log in. Where exactly do we enter to as our default location after that? Right, to Teyvat. The same thing happens when we log out and we're brought back to the heavenly area possibly to then "exit" Teyvat.
To me, the architecture of Celestia looks a bit futuristic(?), and I personally think it might not be from Teyvat. Since there’s lots of theories mentioning that the world of Honkai and Genshin are connected, it may be possible that Celestia may have something to do with Honkai. The world of Honkai looks a bit futuristic (at least the buildings and technology does), so this floating island in the sky known as Celestia may be from the world of Honkai Impact. I won’t be that surprised if Celestia has some connections with Honkai, as some other theories I’ve seen mentioned “Project A.R.K.” from Honkai. Try searching it up if you’d like to check it out. Since Project A.R.K. is searching from world to world (just like the twins) for a new place for humanity, it may have found Teyvat during their search. It may have somehow influenced Teyvat when it was found. I’m not sure if Celestia is directly from Project A.R.K., but it may be a possibility. Something else I’d like to point out is the archons from Celestia. I noticed so far that almost all of the archons’ physical appearances and even their names are extremely similar to the herrschers from Honkai Impact. Venti reminds me of Wendy, the herrscher of wind from Honkai, and Raiden Ei reminds me of Raiden Mei, the herrscher of thunder from Honkai Impact. The pyro archon’s name is Murata, which also happens to be Himeko Murata’s, possibly the herrscher of fire’s name. Even the unknown god from the beginning of the game reminds me of the herrscher of the void. I’m not sure if there is a herrscher that looks similar to Zhongli, but so far I have not discovered any. If all of them are connected to Celestia, the chances of Celestia is somehow related to Honkai is bigger. It could be possible that when Celestia was choosing its archons, maybe they transported some sort of power like and/or from the herrschers. The celestial gnosises given to the archons could be that “power” granted to them(?). Of course, this all might just be a coincidence or an Easter egg as Venti CHOSE to take the form of his deceased friend. But who knows? Knowing mihoyo, I heavily doubt this is all purely a coincidence or just an Easter egg/design made by mihoyo because they are the company of both games. Plus, Yae Miko reminds me of Yae Sakura, despite Miko not being an archon and Sakura not being a herrscher. So a character from genshin’s physical appearance being very similar to a character from Honkai may mean something we do not know yet. Thank you for taking the time to read! Of course, some parts may be inaccurate, so please correct me if it is! :]
As someone who's played Honkai's storyline, just wanted to say that Murata Himeko isn't the Herrscher of Fire (said Herrscher isn't present in the Era of the main story), but she could wield fire so the point of the Pyro Archon being based off of her still stands
@@serien194 in Previous Era there was a Herrscher of Fire who looked like Himeko, and had the same name (it was written like H.I.M.E.K.O.). They’re not related to each other, but Himeko’s last battlesuit used a core of HoF (please correct me if I’m wrong!)
@@serien194 thanks for making the clarification! I’ve always thought himeko had some sort of relation to the herrscher of fire which made me think she WAS the herrscher of fire XD
You know what would be interesting? If the start screen and the place where they’re fought the sustainer actually doesn’t belong to the world of Teyvat. What if its an Endless „sky above the clouds“ where the twins could enter any world they’re desire? Maybe the sustainer is a guardian of the worlds and doesn’t allow the twins to enter other worlds and change them by the twins desire. (I don’t have any evidence, but maybe evil twin woke up first, created Khaenriah, saw it destroyed, since it doesn’t belong to Teyvat, woke up the main traveler, tried to run, sustainer stopped them by the chaos the evil twin did,
as for me, when the twins trying to leave, it is possible that was the ending of their journey and trying to leave the world of Teyvat. Thats when the sustainer stops them.
I personally think that the "Heaven Realm" is actually the place which connects all worlds, like a network. The gate that we see when opening the game, can be gates to all the worlds, as in every world has this gate that needs to be entered and that gate is accessible through the heaven realm. A network connecting all worlds together, holding gates to each world.
my theory : Teyvat is earth with a fake sky, celestia are the aliens/unknown who want to take control over all teyvat as a "god". Fatui/tsaritsa and celestia hate each other. Kaenriah/abbys order are the indigenous of teyvat (former people before all seven nations people) Loading screens is a bridge to heaven/travelers real destination *sorry for bad grammar :/ + idk if it didn't make sense, but now i still trust this.
I think its like station between worlds, like a train station but instead of trains its doors or gates. The door that we are going through every start of the game are the gates going to Teyvat. Like that one scene on Nightmare Before Christmas where there's doors for every holiday.
as you said in the end, it's a realm to pass through. I agree the place we see in the beginning isn't Celestia. There was a screenshot of a feline character in honkai recently, i think one of the flamechasers, with a star in the background similar to the traveler's in the background and staying in a place similar to the realm we go through in the intro. maybe it's related to that.
In Enkanomiya there was this portal that you had to go through to get to the floating islands, if you didn't use the portal all you could see is the initial area. I think Celestia is like that, when you don't go through a portal it is limited in space, but once you do its area extends (infinitely?). So I think the travelers are indeed in Celestia.
What if the starting screen area is khaenri'ah before it was destroyed? Because we also started our journey there when the sustainer sent the other twin to a place that was destroyed from here only and we woke up after the other one and in teyvat. Not so sure.
Pretty sure that the infinite sky pillar area in the loading screen is simply the "place between worlds", since every time you load the game you walk down the path, open the door and "enter Teyvat". So this place is the means by which the Travelers use to get from one world to another.
Do remember that the Lumine trailer exists, where the place the twins got separated starts falling apart, the "endless sky". The floating islands that we see today could very likely be the last resemblance of the "endless sky". Likely after the destruction, which could've happened during the time when Khaenri'ah gets destroyed along with the "endless sky" (with the pillars), the Unknown Goddess defied someone of a higher being to destroy Khaenri'ah. Leading to the destruction of 2 areas with the destruction of the "endless sky" caused by the destruction of Khaenri'ah. The Sustainer of Heavenly Principles probably broke a rule between the interaction of mankind via destruction of Khaenri'ah, and perhaps something to do with Raiden Makoto.
1.- Paimon. 2.- Manga Honkai 2nd Key: Avalon. 3.- Los gemelos llegaron en meteoritos directamente a una "civilización subterránea": Khaenri'ah. 4.- La misma luna se puede ver, más pequeña en Teyvat, mediana desde la pantalla de inicio, y grande en algunos dominios, y el Corredor del Abismo. 5.- En el juego, la luna pasa sobre Celestia. No puedo afirmar lo mismo del sol, ya que me quedo ciego. Pero no sé si se puede decir, que este detalle es a propósito, o por recursos del juego. No he escrito en inglés, pero me parece que el traductor me traducirá bastante bien.
I bet that place is, like you said, some kind af gateway between worlds, for that reason we, the players, have to enter to the game, to Teyvat, through the very same place.
My theory is that after the twin arrived in teyvat they were locked away from their powers but one of them woke up and created Khaenriah which took them decades. but 500 years after khaneriah was destryoed the other twin woke up with new teyvat without khaenriah. Basically thats what the other twin means "Until the abyss engulfed the thrones, my war with destiny will see no end". Meaning they are angry that celestial gods commanded the archons to destroy the new nation they created. The other twin who woke 500 years later does not know about this. But we soon will.
Some people say that this heaven realm is some kind of prison on top of all the worlds and this may be why its infinite. Because all of the worlds are under this prison. It might be a prison too
I'd say this is the border of the tyvat , you see in the opening section of the game, it ends by a portal, that leads to Tyvat , so the siblings were probably crossing the borders through the sky cuz they're traveling the stellar sea, I heard from a different video that the shape of tyvat could be himosphere, meaning it's a land surrounded by a barrier located in a huge ocean, which gives it a himospheric shape. So I'm pretty sure it's the edges of tyvat.
i think we will reach this place after celestia arc, bcs we know that the traveler sibling is still at abyss side and looking for a way to kinda revenge to celestia atm but in that cutscene which is also our starting cutscene, they are fight together. for why they is not stopped when arrived but stopped at leaving, I think because the celestia thinks that the twin is interfering too much with their plan on how they shaping teyvat and its people
SEGA unofficially codeveloped Genshin. Celestia resembled Sonic the Hedgehog's Sonic Riders' Babylon Garden / Space Babylon (a spaceship). Dragonspine is a former spaceport / dimensional port. They also did My Little Pony. Raiden's Shogun resemblances to Twilight Sparkle (& Raiden Mei), including Miyuki Sawashiro as their JP VA are related. "Ei" meaning "Shadow" is related to Twilight being Shadow the Hedgehog's daughter. (See also Final Fantasy XV's Noctis Lucis Caelum) Kikuko Inoue voiced for Celestia & Alice. See also Secret Space Program.
Apart from the clue that, that “heavenly place”, is something you need to pass through in order to go to another world, we have to pay attention to how the twin in the first cutscene, described how they came here. “Fell”, while this could be paimon misunderstanding, or just using another word, you can always just use “came” or “travelled”. This means something mustve happened in the prev world. “You fell here from another world, but when you wanted to leave, some unknown god stopped you?”. The other twin waking up earlier than the traveller point that when they fell here, they lost consciousness. If the twin woke up much earlier than the traveller, why did they not wake up the traveller? Was there something that prevented the traveller from waking up, or being woken up? If the traveller woke up after the destruction of khaen’riah (forgive my spelling”, is ‘some unknown god stopped you’ connected with the other twin? If the other twin knew Dainsleif, enough to even be traveling together, is the twin somewhat connected to the royal family? Say the twin did a huge contribution to the development of khaen’ria, does that mean the unknown god stopped the twins from going to another world, to take the twin? Im hella confused. Why did paimon say “Fell from another world”, what is the relationship between dainsleif and the twin? Is the twin connected to the fallen nation, the reason why they were taken? What exactly made the people of that fallen nation, transform to what we know today as hilichurls? My brain hurts.
The traveler we chose was said to be in a meteorite from which the abyss twin woke them up. So yes, they fell, like meteorites. I like your theory, but since Scaramouche said the sky is fake, what about it being like the dainichi mikoshi, used to turn the sky to day and night?
HM. About the inside of the Celestial Nails containing that blue stuff... Maybe the Celestia we see in the sky was a kingdom of a god-king (like Deshret or Remus) who could access the leylines. Leyline power is blue. So, in an attempt to get closer to the Heaven Realm, that god-king created the Celestia island and empowered it with the memories/souls of the leylines, which allowed it to hover, like the machines of Deshret's kingdom. It broke free of the ground of Teyvat and has been in the sky ever since, occasionally dropping its pillars on places.
The island in the sky is where the light element resides. Just as the void element in below teyvat. Celestia is space. The gods of Celestia are herrshers from honkai. They keep an eye on the people to make sure they don't become too advanced (the mistake they made on earth) through use of archons gnosis. Khaenriah became too advanced and was destroyed. The archons was used against their will but they willing give up their gnosis in order to not be controlled.
I hope we get to learn major details about teyvat when we reach Sumeru where most of the smartest people are. scholars and teachers alike should at least know something above teyvat that anyone can see.
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Im not saying your theory is wrong but I think that the place in the game screen and the one in the beginning are Kaenri'ah. Why? If it isn't celestia, we could say many things, but, still, the pillar in dragonspine is throw by celestia, and same with the chasm's pilar. So they could have been throw while the war in Kaenri'ah. Another thing that I would say is that our sibling wakes up 500 years ago, before/meanwhile the war in Kaenri'ah. So the place we say there could be Kaenri'ah before the war and the "unknown god" it's stopping us because they were about to start the war.
Perhaps Celestia is just the gateway to the realm for traveling between worlds. For anyone who may know, perhaps it is like 'the ways' (in Wheel of Time)... just a massive 'network' that isn't entirely specific. Celestia may just act as a 'way gate', allowing access to a realm that connects many worlds. You sort of just go and eventually come to another gate, allowing exit to Celestia of another world. Perhaps the appearance of the gate changes based on the person activating it. Perhaps, the cube encapsulations were like sticking them in a pokeball, to then be thrown through the door to Teyvat. Looking at the intro, it looks like the two travel between worlds... and someone who has decided they want control of the realm between worlds decided to stop them. It wasn't that they were fleeing Teyvat, but that they visited and left again... and then were thrown back. (Like a space ship stopping by a planet, then Klingons blasted them out of the sky so they're stranded on a primitive planet. And who pays attention to the Prime Directive? Interfere? Oh yeah.)
It could be that Celestia is just a Geosynchronous space station orbiting the Planet that contains Teyvat and the Dark Sea... (For those who don't know, Geosynchronous means any satellite that orbits the planet in such a way that the speed of revolution of the satellite matches the speed of rotation of the planet on its own axis, thus giving the fake appearance that the satellite is just hovering above the surface...) And we also know that there are more structures in the Sky of Teyvat other than Celestia, that are the Lunar Palace (perhaps destroyed now)and the Chariot of the Morningstars
I think this realm with the pilliars is simply a gateway between many different worlds. Since the twins were expierenced and powerful travellers between these worlds. But they got ambushed in this space by someone even more powerful and were forced to stay in Tevyat. I wouldn't be suprised if beyond that realm there would be even more powerful and ancient beings then the sustainer.
That brings me to another theory. What if, Paimon is a creature that belongs to that mistaken for celestia area that theoretically could be a pathway to different worlds. It would make sense why we enter tevyat through a door. If we believe there are many doors connecting to different worlds each. And we were stopped there by that unknown "god" and pushed back to tevyat. Back to Paimon, if she belongs to that area, it would make sense why no archon knows anything about her, not anybody in tevyat ever has seen or read about Paimon before. Simply because she doesn't belong to tevyat per se. But since she, (If we assume belongs to that pathway were we got stopped to leave) is someone from there, it would make sense that she stands above archons and can control certain things. Maybe she's hiding her plans. Or maybe she forgot entirely why she came into tevyat just to be rescued by us
But it's also sus why no one is questioning what she is. What race she belongs to and why she's the only thing in whole tevyat besides monsters that can float. She's ignored by anybody who meets her for the first time. People do acknowledge that she's a flying thingy, but that's all. Not even kids question what she is and why she can float and talk. In the enconomiya quest, after we fought with enjou for the first time, he said "don't trust people blabla, take that floating thing for example. one day it could turn it's back to you blabla" (Something along these lines) What IF, paimon can kinda mindcontrol everybody into ignoring her so that no one, not even us who fish her out of the water, don't question what kind of creature she is.
I am sure about one thing....the pillars at the start menu are the exact same pillars in dragonspine and the chasm....also, piamons clothes has that pattern of the pillars on her near her hands and legs....so she is def related to this shit
This place could be something greater than celestia and the sustainer, something greater then even the gods of celestia. Or more like a being that enforces the rules of their world that even the gods adhere too. This could be the reason the twins were stopped from leaving. They were allowed entry, but once they learned of the world of teyvat, the sustainer could not allow them to leave and possibly give out information about their world. That place could be heaven where the sustainer resides and similarly at the start of the game where we enter the gates to teyvat, that could have been the heaven in our previous world before teyvat.
I am pretty sure the Celestia we see in the sky is not a 3D model, rather just a floating sprite. I assume it's a placeholder just like the Dragonspine mountain, Inazuma islands, or even The Chasm's current in-game form. And when the time comes for us to finally go there, we may see Celestia that's similar in overall shape but very different in details.
well ofc thats the case here, if it was 3d model rather then 2d lot of ppl or private servers would have been their and spoil it so as closer we get to the end or further in game the celestia will take its actual form.
That would make sense that they were trying to leave, because if you think about it, when you start the game.. You have the door when if you click your game loads.. So that would make sense that the door in the start screen could be called a gate to another world lorewise
Plot twist: The place where we start and when we open the game, its called Bifrost or space bridge that connect to realms. While the unknown god who claimed as the sustainer, her name is Heimdall
8 islands for each of the elements (including Paimon aka archon of time!) (possibly 8 statues too, with one each being in Teyvat, Stateus of the Seven is called like that because Paimon did not get her own, possibly because she did something against The unknown god, like help Makoto save Inazuma, helped her protect Ei so she won't die, and helped her plant the tree in the past? Travellers were... well.. Travellers, from another world. Fake sky is some kind of barrier which closes off Teyvat from rest of the...world?timeline? They were travelling and when they enteret Teyvat, they were passing trough and once they entered, they couldnt live because they were stopped by realm of gods? Something we see in first cutscene and when we log into the game? Celestia might be portal to that world, and having 8 gnosises gives you power to enter the realm and fight a god (very similiar idea to No Game No Life). When you pull in the banner you literally summon people from another worlds/timelines, thus the falling stars. Tsarista and Harbringers wish is to literally fight the god. I believe The god, destroyed people of Khaenri'ah because there were known to not believe in any god like figiure and they were the most advanced race.
IMO probably that place the twins fought Sustainer is a some kind of "gate" or "checkpoint" boundaries or like that, you know when we want to go out to other countries usually only 1 or 2 airports that allowed to do so. And since Archons are inhabitants of Teyvat, they didn't really know or doesn't have any knowledge or desires to go there and beyond
I don't think it is Celestia either, but i think you should know (and review) that the design and decorations of the loading screen, also known as the place where the sustainer battled the twins, has the exactly same architectonic style of the statues of the seven archons. They both have the same type of white stone with the same type of golden decorations, so this place is, at very least, sharing the same source/designer. Also, we enter to Teyvat through a gate we open in this place. This means that, while the twins arrived Teyvat in meteors, they probably heard about this place and tried to used to get an easy travel to the next world, before the sustainer of heavenly principles appeared to stop them. Ps: architecture and archon have etymological relation.
so what im getting from that is celestia is basically visible but still unreachable to regular people and even the traveller's possibly. so let's say someone tried to reach up there they would not reach it...they would just be going upwards endlessly into space and the distance may never close. but maybe when they die they ascend to celestia and maybe the twins can access that place as well when they regain their full power that the unknown goddess took away from them both. this is mostlikely the reason why the unknown goddess took away their power to stop them from hopping from world to world.
Did anyone notice this there are 7 elements and there is 7 islands surrounding the middle one and the middle one is Omni element which means the middle island in celestial is the omni element that means it’s the heavenly principles.
The reason no lore mentions this is because this realm does not exist in Teyvat. It just looks like endless bridges or roads and may function like an interdimensional highway. If we take the opening screen as literal, these roads lead to doorways and we enter it every time we boot up the game to go to Teyvat. I still think this has something to do with the Balladeer's false sky theory. But I have no way to connect it yet except for speculation.
What if the structure in the sky is only part of Celestia, like an entrance or outpost? Hardly anyone ascends and it doesn't seem like they come back to tell people about it, so perhaps there's more to it than the people of Teyvat know. Perhaps that floating island thing is simply an area to house the gateway to the infinite pillar/cloud area we see. The abyss has a specific entrance, so perhaps Celestia does too. Perhaps that island was also set up as a place to house the 7 Archon thrones in Celestia, but they have no or limited access to the wider area because they're lower ranking gods than the Celestial gods. All of that is pure speculation and could be horrendously wrong, but who knows at this point.
The world in the intro is 'The Log-in World', meant only for Genshin / Origin God / The Player. The Twins trespassed. The Unknown God being the System Administrator, quickly removed them. Later on, The Player, Genshin. Adopted the form and memories of one of the Twins. But s/he is NOT Aether/Lumine. Each twin is 'trapped' in a 'parallel universe'. Aether is in the one with Genshin Lumine, Lumine is in the one with Genshin Aether.
The loading screen is just an aesthetic choice though. In the scenes with the Unknown God we see that there are indeed limits and an ending point. Several are shown in this video.......it doesn't actually go on endlessly. 🙃 Edit: 0:27 there's a very clear ledge that the twins land on. 2:56 you can clearly see that the pillars stop here. 3:57 again, you can clearly see that the pillars don't go on forever and there's just clouds. Which, it could have just been extra cloudy that day.
I agree that the place where the twins battle the unknown god and the start menu is not celestia, however I do not agree on the heavenly place, cos I had come to the conclusion that that place is likely to be some sort of a “gate” which link to other world(s). The floating island in the sky which is called celestia may also be actually an island from teyvat, but created using materials from teyvat and designs maybe from ancient civilization and the “gate”. The reason why I saying that it a “gate”, cos there was a “door” we will enter to “play” the game; which make me theorized that we are entering though the gate in order to enter into teyvat. So instead of saying it something of a border, I theorized that it might be where the “gate”/“door” is. The reason for my theory is that; we know Jade chamber exists, and if anyone missed it, when we were looking for the crystals that can make the jade chamber float, the “crystal” was told that if active, can float non-stop into the sky. The jade chamber was only set to that altitude, but what I theorized is that celestia might be using the same way but to a higher altitude. Another reason for the theory is that we also know Jade chamber can be control like a vehicle when it move to find the hydra gods couples. And we know very well that celestia is moving, which bring more conclusive proof to my theory. The enkanomiya was the final reason for my theory, as it was there that we know celestia didn’t exist before, and it was created by god(s) for the god(s). Noticing I am still uncertain about the actual number of god(s) up there. But I think we can safely say there might be someone or something up in that floating island.
It should be noted that in the second quest we see Dainsleif, the traveler comments about their encounter with the unknown god and how before she intercepted the twins the traveler saw the destruction of a nation, of which both them and Dainsleif believe was Khaenri'ah.
The heaven realm may be a gateway to another dimension because there is a new place like that in honkai and they said that honkai and genshin is canonically connected
I think it's the uppermost border between teyvat and other parts of the sea of quanta As it's entirely possible Teyvat is simply one of many worlds as Otto saw it while peeking into said sea of quanta & finding a kind of yggdrasil style world tree
mc: *Crossing from realm to realm.* Something like this line hehe... book: *9 realms... each 9 realms has a world of its own.* *The gods has a world of its own...* I think thats the gateway or platform to cross from realm to realm were the mc is standing in which the sustainer of heavenly principles block there path... (But not celestia) 🤔 Celestia has a "limited" space of its own.. a "floating enkanomiya perhaps" or a "floating abode" like in the serenitea pot. I think the bridge that also connects celestia between its floating islands looks like same as in the serenitea pot kind of bridges... 🤔 Legend of the shattered halberd. Great topic as always... Kudos 👍🏾👍🏾
My guess is that the Celestia seen in the game (floating islands) is just were the archon and the others "chosen by the gods" go. But the real Celestia is above the fake sky and that's were the actual gods (the ones that came from out of Teyvat) reside.
But also consider the plane of euthymia. It's limited in size likely due to the power of its creator. Where Celestia, the Gods have more power to create infinite planes of existence, and that may be a plane to cross through before exiting the plane that is teyvat. like the airlock doors leaving buildings, or in those rotating glass doors, or some airports (conceptually). If the sky is fake then it's just the ability to see the illusion, and where the door actually is, which is that plane.
I see the 'loading screen' like the Genshin Impact version of the Honkai Impact's Sea of Quanta, a Nexus between worlds. In fact it makes sense to be the starting screen of the game because is what we use to go from our real world to the world of Teyvat.
we all know that in genshin is many, maybe infinite worlds. this can be like corridor to Tevyat world or spaxe between worlds and remember: not everything that is in books is confirmed
Enkonomiya is a realm between the three realm of human(earth) , vishap elemental(light realm) and abyssal (void realm) and in enkonomiya is said called to be the nether just like Minecraft nether
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Considering the sky itself is “fake”, there is no reason to believe the floating formation we see in said sky is really Celestia. If celestia is as taboo to speak about as it seems going by how vague the archons tend to be when discussing it, then just pointing up at some floating rocks in the sky and calling it Celestia can be an easy to use misdirect.
That could very well be the case. But it’s all speculation here before we have some concrete information on the gods
the sky is celestia not the rocks
"Celestia" is just a floating prison. Whatever rules might actually be hidden within the abyss or elsewhere.
Celestia has a massive center struture protruding above... Just like enkanomiya's masassive center structure...
but on the opening screen.. it has infinite space and no center structure.
We’ve seen celestia though. It’s a massive prison tower a lot like the one in the center of that island
0:11 "seemingly infinite area"
Me who takes minutes in the loading screen: I concur.
true
Me who takes an hour in the loading screen after maintance
"Ah yes, infinity area"
Mines done in like 7 to 8 seconds if that of course I have a ps5 but still.
it took me like 4 minutes to load 😭
@@ReinatakaharaVTsame bc if u don’t log in , in a long time, it takes long
Theory: scaramouche said the sky is fake. So what if the sky we see at the start of the game is actually the real sky, and the clouds are the fake sky that covers the real one up. It may also be that celestia uses the pillars to hold up the sky and can drop a pillar like a missile whenever want to.
Agreed
Or as in one theory I have heard, if the sky is fake, the real sky could just as well be below the ground. The whole Teyvat would be upside down, and the "upside down" city we encounter in the Chasm would be in the correct position. And "heading down" the spiral abyss, we would actually be going upwards, to the real sky.
@@PanRobak. INTERESTING PLOT TWIST
@@PanRobak. I always wondered why we're closer to the moon when we're in the abyss
@@PanRobak. But if tevyat's planet is round, shouldn't go up means going up and down meaning also going up? If you're going up high enough, shouldn't there be also the real sky?
I think Celestia will be technologically advanced, with machines with more sleek designs compared to the ruin machines of Khaenri'ah. This is because of the Shogun Puppet, since the means to create her were not new.
The pillars in the sky can definitely be the Heavenly Realm long abandoned after the loss of the primordial one, now it is a border where outlanders can enter and exit Teyvat.
If u read the manga of genshin u will see how celestia is
Its a frigging PRISON
@@synthesissixtyfive22 it feels like shit to be in celestia
Border control be like
@@kiaru_san ye.
Thanks for the new information! I would have never been able to arrived that the conclusion that Teyvat is an area sealed off by the Celestia gods, since exiting it is forbidden.
Teyvat. Ark. Genshin gone meta, it is a game. Unknown God, SysAdm.
@@smartfrenandromax6651 Alicization reference?
@@hanachimo1013 i think there are cameo to that theory in honkai if i'm not mistaken
I personally feel that could be the realm between all the worlds. The twins were trying to escape tevyat and go into another world. I personally think it wouldn't make sense if they go into the heaven realm. So the gate could also mean that the twins are 're-entering' teyvat. It could also be theorized that the gaps between the pillars are pockets between the worlds and the twins dropped down in one specific pocket which would make sense why they were perhaps meteors ? This is probably highly inaccurate and your theory does sound more plausible haha
this is what i thought too!
@@Yo-mv2wh pffft , i really want to see klee's mother, i know that she is going to play a super important role in our journey
@@Yo-mv2wh Kikuko Inoue voiced Celestia & Alice. Even her English Dub sounded Celestia-ish. Not Nicole Oliver though.
@@prasoontripathi4179 Go see My Little Pony: Equestria Girls' Celestia.
Log-in world. Only meant for Genshin / Player
Personally I believe this place is the Celestial Atlas, the one Zhongli mentioned in his story quest
Like a Gateway between worlds so to say
Yea ur right ua-cam.com/video/B8197NUQ0LE/v-deo.html see this video at 0:18 they are talking about celestial atlas
I think that the loading screen is the gateway between worlds. We see it in the opening cutscene when the twins are trying to leave Teyvat and go onto the next world, and it’s also the loading screen. It’s like every time we open up the game again we tried to leave Teyvat and managed to get back to that place but we keep getting to the same door every single time. I think that there’s more doors on the loading screen that lead to other worlds but we can’t access them yet. If you think about it, it would be a great way to keep the game going and would even explain why the game trailer says “Teyvat Chapter”. Lemme know what you think :)
I just noticed that when the cutscene started where the twins were in a meteor, they flew over the *present* teyvat and not 500 years ago during the cataclysm. Does this mean our twin was sent to the past, instead of us being sent to the future?
Nah they actually came here during the cataclysm, I think that scene doesn’t have any relevance. As for the other twin, i think they didn’t get sent there but rather they got stuck there and the twin that we chose got put to sleep for 500 years
@@Solxtia so the other twin knowns more about teyvat since they were awake for 500years?
@@mango_776 no actually they came before 600-1000 years ago (think aether is traveler) lumine awaked in that time but travel didn't so lumine started her own journey with dainsleif and after completing it they started to build there own country but it got desroyed 500 years ago in that time lumine forcefully wakes up aether and they try to run from this world but that's when they met that celestia lady. lumine got thrown in abyss because of her powerful nation crime and aether got sleep for 500 years again or forgotten time god helped him to go in the future. It's only my theory.
@@mango_776 Yeah, whoever you chose (Aether or Lumine) both reveal that their other twin awoke first and was the one to tell them that they need to leave Teyvat or at the time Khaenri’ah. In the “We will be reunited” The other twin stated that they have already traveled through Teyvat once and encourage our twin to seek the truth of this world.
@@conquerorofevil8776 I'm going with ur theory
Now that I’m looking closer at the sprite of the floating island, the structure looks like a larger version of Dainichi Mikoshi. Since we know that the Dainichi Mikoshi can be turned on and off, I wonder if this structure can as well, and whether this function has something to do with the false sky that Scaramouche mentioned.
GOD, I THOUGHT THE SAME!!! What if this is really enkanomiya..?
I never thought it was Celestia because it lacked “building” buildings. My initial thought was it’s like crossways between worlds. In the opening, it seemed like they were about to leave the world they were just in to the next. They might have come close to Teyvat gateway, or was the world they were going to. Before they can leave or enter, they were stopped by the Sustainer to punish them.
I don’t think world jumping is the transgression. If so, Alice would also be a convict. I think their existence is what goes against their Heavenly Principles. As stated before, all must are to be affected by erosion. But the twins might be unaffected by erosion. Hence, why the Sustainer attacked them. Why they’re not being hunted, I don’t know, but they also don’t have all their powers back and are trapped in Teyvat. Maybe this is a way for Celestia to keep an eye on them. Hold them on their domain.
I’m pretty sure the sustainer attacked them because our twin fought against Celestia alongside Khaneriah and the abyss during the cataclysm. According to lore, the twin explored Teyvat with Dainsleif whilst we were sleeping and after the cataclysm, the sibling woke us up so we could move to the next world
@@afzz1507 Sustainer attacked the twins cuz they wanted to Escape from Khaerni’ah while it was getting destroyed
@@afzz1507 Khaen'riah wasn't fighting Celestia, they were fighting the Abyss.
@@BlackGateofMordor that is a maybe not a fact but can be a fact if confirmed
@@shineod613 It was a fact when I posted it and it's even more of a fact now. Play the game, the Schwanenritter were absolutely fighting the Abyss in Sumeru, and we know that Dain personally fought to protect the Vourukasha Oasis.
One connection we see between 'heaven' and Celestia is the gold symbol shared between the heavenly pillars and the statues of the seven. Oddly enough, it's also a symbol littered all over Paimon.
And behind Vennessa when we can see a little sneak peek of Celestia. The pillar next to the door
I'm sure 100% Paimon is part of Celestia realm..
Paimon is the Primordial One. The place where Traveler siblings met Unknown God is the oldest, more ancient Celestia than the present she built.
1:43 I’m quite sure that Venti also confirms the existence of lakes or other water bodies in Celestia in one of his voicelines, where he talks about how foul the water the water there tastes, and how bland the fruit is.
Im sure venti really hide secret or sadness with drinks.. or its just regret
I think venti was talking abt the drinks, he doesn't just drink from a lake, he also mentioned Celestia is even too far for hik to fly
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"Celestia... I'm not sure even I could fly that far. In any case, the water there tastes foul, and the fruit is bland. You know what that means? No cider! Haha, in that case, I wouldn't go there even if I was invited."
He was talking about both
It does make sense if we think about how the doors open to us whenever we log in. Where exactly do we enter to as our default location after that? Right, to Teyvat. The same thing happens when we log out and we're brought back to the heavenly area possibly to then "exit" Teyvat.
I hope i can come back to this video when Celestia is finally explorable or at least have more lore, just need to wait a few more years.
Genshin lore can more fascinating than some of the best animes. I cant wait to see how they'll tie in Honkai and other mihayo universes to all this
To me, the architecture of Celestia looks a bit futuristic(?), and I personally think it might not be from Teyvat. Since there’s lots of theories mentioning that the world of Honkai and Genshin are connected, it may be possible that Celestia may have something to do with Honkai. The world of Honkai looks a bit futuristic (at least the buildings and technology does), so this floating island in the sky known as Celestia may be from the world of Honkai Impact.
I won’t be that surprised if Celestia has some connections with Honkai, as some other theories I’ve seen mentioned “Project A.R.K.” from Honkai. Try searching it up if you’d like to check it out. Since Project A.R.K. is searching from world to world (just like the twins) for a new place for humanity, it may have found Teyvat during their search. It may have somehow influenced Teyvat when it was found. I’m not sure if Celestia is directly from Project A.R.K., but it may be a possibility.
Something else I’d like to point out is the archons from Celestia. I noticed so far that almost all of the archons’ physical appearances and even their names are extremely similar to the herrschers from Honkai Impact. Venti reminds me of Wendy, the herrscher of wind from Honkai, and Raiden Ei reminds me of Raiden Mei, the herrscher of thunder from Honkai Impact. The pyro archon’s name is Murata, which also happens to be Himeko Murata’s, possibly the herrscher of fire’s name. Even the unknown god from the beginning of the game reminds me of the herrscher of the void. I’m not sure if there is a herrscher that looks similar to Zhongli, but so far I have not discovered any. If all of them are connected to Celestia, the chances of Celestia is somehow related to Honkai is bigger. It could be possible that when Celestia was choosing its archons, maybe they transported some sort of power like and/or from the herrschers. The celestial gnosises given to the archons could be that “power” granted to them(?). Of course, this all might just be a coincidence or an Easter egg as Venti CHOSE to take the form of his deceased friend. But who knows? Knowing mihoyo, I heavily doubt this is all purely a coincidence or just an Easter egg/design made by mihoyo because they are the company of both games. Plus, Yae Miko reminds me of Yae Sakura, despite Miko not being an archon and Sakura not being a herrscher. So a character from genshin’s physical appearance being very similar to a character from Honkai may mean something we do not know yet.
Thank you for taking the time to read! Of course, some parts may be inaccurate, so please correct me if it is! :]
Project Ark is most likely the Primordial One.
Thank you this seems like very good point
As someone who's played Honkai's storyline, just wanted to say that Murata Himeko isn't the Herrscher of Fire (said Herrscher isn't present in the Era of the main story), but she could wield fire so the point of the Pyro Archon being based off of her still stands
@@serien194 in Previous Era there was a Herrscher of Fire who looked like Himeko, and had the same name (it was written like H.I.M.E.K.O.). They’re not related to each other, but Himeko’s last battlesuit used a core of HoF (please correct me if I’m wrong!)
@@serien194 thanks for making the clarification! I’ve always thought himeko had some sort of relation to the herrscher of fire which made me think she WAS the herrscher of fire XD
You know what would be interesting? If the start screen and the place where they’re fought the sustainer actually doesn’t belong to the world of Teyvat. What if its an Endless „sky above the clouds“ where the twins could enter any world they’re desire? Maybe the sustainer is a guardian of the worlds and doesn’t allow the twins to enter other worlds and change them by the twins desire. (I don’t have any evidence, but maybe evil twin woke up first, created Khaenriah, saw it destroyed, since it doesn’t belong to Teyvat, woke up the main traveler, tried to run, sustainer stopped them by the chaos the evil twin did,
as for me, when the twins trying to leave, it is possible that was the ending of their journey and trying to leave the world of Teyvat. Thats when the sustainer stops them.
Also chapter 7 or chapter ??? Is named a dream yet to be dreamed, so I think we are talking about time travel or loops
It looks more like enkanomiya. It is a domain. As if the sustainer domain also holds the entrance and exit to teyvat
The pillar area is a domain* not the flying city
what if, Teyvat is just a painting by Griseo and made to life by Aponia
mad theory lmao
yeah and aponia is the primordial one
@@Asm0sday How so?
I personally think that the "Heaven Realm" is actually the place which connects all worlds, like a network. The gate that we see when opening the game, can be gates to all the worlds, as in every world has this gate that needs to be entered and that gate is accessible through the heaven realm. A network connecting all worlds together, holding gates to each world.
my theory :
Teyvat is earth with a fake sky, celestia are the aliens/unknown who want to take control over all teyvat as a "god".
Fatui/tsaritsa and celestia hate each other.
Kaenriah/abbys order are the indigenous of teyvat (former people before all seven nations people)
Loading screens is a bridge to heaven/travelers real destination
*sorry for bad grammar :/ + idk if it didn't make sense, but now i still trust this.
I swear when we finish Genshin, I'll come back to these kind of theories and videos.
Maybe that's the realm where primordial one and second one started a war
Would make sense. It already seems like a fight when on up there.
I think its like station between worlds, like a train station but instead of trains its doors or gates. The door that we are going through every start of the game are the gates going to Teyvat. Like that one scene on Nightmare Before Christmas where there's doors for every holiday.
5:36 its possible that celestia might be trying to mimic heaven realm created by the primordial one
Dainslief once said, once you finish your journey, the is final doorway. Maybe the floating island is the final doorway to unlock the world mystery
🌸🌹I am most inclined to concur, and utter “what exactly was this place”?🌹🌸
The floating island with a buliding on it also a prison in the manga
@@electroneurons I don’t think that is what they where asking that!
@@nadi7169 oh
@@electroneurons No where mention it is prison, other theories can tell it look like court or council
as you said in the end, it's a realm to pass through. I agree the place we see in the beginning isn't Celestia.
There was a screenshot of a feline character in honkai recently, i think one of the flamechasers, with a star in the background similar to the traveler's in the background and staying in a place similar to the realm we go through in the intro. maybe it's related to that.
The loading screen is the celestial atlas btw! It is located waaay above mondstadt and higher than celestia. hope this helps
In Enkanomiya there was this portal that you had to go through to get to the floating islands, if you didn't use the portal all you could see is the initial area. I think Celestia is like that, when you don't go through a portal it is limited in space, but once you do its area extends (infinitely?). So I think the travelers are indeed in Celestia.
Yeah just like the door you enter when you start the game, maybe that door connects teyvat and celestia
What if the starting screen area is khaenri'ah before it was destroyed? Because we also started our journey there when the sustainer sent the other twin to a place that was destroyed from here only and we woke up after the other one and in teyvat. Not so sure.
Khaenri'ah was an underground civilization where as this place is a step above Celistia so there's no way this is Khaenri'ah.
Khaenriah is a human civilization, no gods, no nothing, only humans. However, the clouds, the high pillars resembles a higher being, heaven, and gods
Khaenri'ah looked different in the official trailer (We will be reunited)
in the "We will be reunited" trailer, it shows Khaenri'ah got destroyed, and what seems to be Ground breaking apart. so no, Khaenri'ah is not floating
to me celestia "looks" like enkanomiya hehe... That has a massive center structure
Pretty sure that the infinite sky pillar area in the loading screen is simply the "place between worlds", since every time you load the game you walk down the path, open the door and "enter Teyvat". So this place is the means by which the Travelers use to get from one world to another.
Do remember that the Lumine trailer exists, where the place the twins got separated starts falling apart, the "endless sky". The floating islands that we see today could very likely be the last resemblance of the "endless sky".
Likely after the destruction, which could've happened during the time when Khaenri'ah gets destroyed along with the "endless sky" (with the pillars), the Unknown Goddess defied someone of a higher being to destroy Khaenri'ah. Leading to the destruction of 2 areas with the destruction of the "endless sky" caused by the destruction of Khaenri'ah.
The Sustainer of Heavenly Principles probably broke a rule between the interaction of mankind via destruction of Khaenri'ah, and perhaps something to do with Raiden Makoto.
1.- Paimon.
2.- Manga Honkai 2nd Key: Avalon.
3.- Los gemelos llegaron en meteoritos directamente a una "civilización subterránea": Khaenri'ah.
4.- La misma luna se puede ver, más pequeña en Teyvat, mediana desde la pantalla de inicio, y grande en algunos dominios, y el Corredor del Abismo.
5.- En el juego, la luna pasa sobre Celestia. No puedo afirmar lo mismo del sol, ya que me quedo ciego. Pero no sé si se puede decir, que este detalle es a propósito, o por recursos del juego.
No he escrito en inglés, pero me parece que el traductor me traducirá bastante bien.
I bet that place is, like you said, some kind af gateway between worlds, for that reason we, the players, have to enter to the game, to Teyvat, through the very same place.
My theory is that after the twin arrived in teyvat they were locked away from their powers but one of them woke up and created Khaenriah which took them decades. but 500 years after khaneriah was destryoed the other twin woke up with new teyvat without khaenriah.
Basically thats what the other twin means "Until the abyss engulfed the thrones, my war with destiny will see no end".
Meaning they are angry that celestial gods commanded the archons to destroy the new nation they created. The other twin who woke 500 years later does not know about this. But we soon will.
i highly doubt the 7 caused the destruction
Some people say that this heaven realm is some kind of prison on top of all the worlds and this may be why its infinite. Because all of the worlds are under this prison. It might be a prison too
I'd say this is the border of the tyvat , you see in the opening section of the game, it ends by a portal, that leads to Tyvat , so the siblings were probably crossing the borders through the sky cuz they're traveling the stellar sea, I heard from a different video that the shape of tyvat could be himosphere, meaning it's a land surrounded by a barrier located in a huge ocean, which gives it a himospheric shape.
So I'm pretty sure it's the edges of tyvat.
i think we will reach this place after celestia arc, bcs we know that the traveler sibling is still at abyss side and looking for a way to kinda revenge to celestia atm but in that cutscene which is also our starting cutscene, they are fight together.
for why they is not stopped when arrived but stopped at leaving, I think because the celestia thinks that the twin is interfering too much with their plan on how they shaping teyvat and its people
That might be the gate lead to Celestia, like the gate that open a secret tunnel to Enkanomiya
the start menu is the bifrost, a bridge connected to different realms. the sustainer of heavenly principles is basically heimdall.
Everybody gangsta until that floating thing is Snezhnaya
SEGA unofficially codeveloped Genshin. Celestia resembled Sonic the Hedgehog's Sonic Riders' Babylon Garden / Space Babylon (a spaceship). Dragonspine is a former spaceport / dimensional port.
They also did My Little Pony. Raiden's Shogun resemblances to Twilight Sparkle (& Raiden Mei), including Miyuki Sawashiro as their JP VA are related. "Ei" meaning "Shadow" is related to Twilight being Shadow the Hedgehog's daughter.
(See also Final Fantasy XV's Noctis Lucis Caelum)
Kikuko Inoue voiced for Celestia & Alice.
See also Secret Space Program.
Apart from the clue that, that “heavenly place”, is something you need to pass through in order to go to another world, we have to pay attention to how the twin in the first cutscene, described how they came here. “Fell”, while this could be paimon misunderstanding, or just using another word, you can always just use “came” or “travelled”. This means something mustve happened in the prev world. “You fell here from another world, but when you wanted to leave, some unknown god stopped you?”. The other twin waking up earlier than the traveller point that when they fell here, they lost consciousness. If the twin woke up much earlier than the traveller, why did they not wake up the traveller? Was there something that prevented the traveller from waking up, or being woken up? If the traveller woke up after the destruction of khaen’riah (forgive my spelling”, is ‘some unknown god stopped you’ connected with the other twin? If the other twin knew Dainsleif, enough to even be traveling together, is the twin somewhat connected to the royal family? Say the twin did a huge contribution to the development of khaen’ria, does that mean the unknown god stopped the twins from going to another world, to take the twin?
Im hella confused. Why did paimon say “Fell from another world”, what is the relationship between dainsleif and the twin? Is the twin connected to the fallen nation, the reason why they were taken? What exactly made the people of that fallen nation, transform to what we know today as hilichurls?
My brain hurts.
The traveler we chose was said to be in a meteorite from which the abyss twin woke them up. So yes, they fell, like meteorites. I like your theory, but since Scaramouche said the sky is fake, what about it being like the dainichi mikoshi, used to turn the sky to day and night?
WAIT AT THE BEGINNING THE CUTSCENE SYNCED SO WELL WITH THE MUSIC WHAT
Tbh Celestia reminds me of Zalem from Alita Battle Angel. The people from belong worship the place despite not knowing what lies above
HM. About the inside of the Celestial Nails containing that blue stuff... Maybe the Celestia we see in the sky was a kingdom of a god-king (like Deshret or Remus) who could access the leylines. Leyline power is blue. So, in an attempt to get closer to the Heaven Realm, that god-king created the Celestia island and empowered it with the memories/souls of the leylines, which allowed it to hover, like the machines of Deshret's kingdom. It broke free of the ground of Teyvat and has been in the sky ever since, occasionally dropping its pillars on places.
The island in the sky is where the light element resides. Just as the void element in below teyvat. Celestia is space. The gods of Celestia are herrshers from honkai. They keep an eye on the people to make sure they don't become too advanced (the mistake they made on earth) through use of archons gnosis. Khaenriah became too advanced and was destroyed. The archons was used against their will but they willing give up their gnosis in order to not be controlled.
I hope we get to learn major details about teyvat when we reach Sumeru where most of the smartest people are. scholars and teachers alike should at least know something above teyvat that anyone can see.
imo the place where twins fought with sustainer is a main gate to access teyvat’s world from outside and inside
Fantasticals stories, ... .
Stories with medium to high value spiritual contents, like the fairy tales of Yesterday, ... .
Stories with directs allusions to mythologies, eithers Asians, eithers Europeans, ... .
I have the impression to hearing the fairytales that my beloved (and regreted) grandmother have learnings to me, when I was very young, ... .
Your UA-cam Channel is very explicative about Genshin Impact's videogame lore, as well as certains details, and as well as the manga, and the anime.
( I don't expect that it will be a manga, and an anime, ... ).
The music is so melancolic, and so soft, the level of yours explications is excellent, ... .
Say, what if it is the bridge between universes ?
u have a point, there are many theories connecting this to the irminsul tree
Worlds*
3:11 that kinda means that we will probably get the place after traveller unlocks the original element
Im not saying your theory is wrong but I think that the place in the game screen and the one in the beginning are Kaenri'ah. Why? If it isn't celestia, we could say many things, but, still, the pillar in dragonspine is throw by celestia, and same with the chasm's pilar. So they could have been throw while the war in Kaenri'ah. Another thing that I would say is that our sibling wakes up 500 years ago, before/meanwhile the war in Kaenri'ah. So the place we say there could be Kaenri'ah before the war and the "unknown god" it's stopping us because they were about to start the war.
In “we will be reunited” video Lumine runs in identical place, during its probably destruction, as this unknown place
Perhaps Celestia is just the gateway to the realm for traveling between worlds.
For anyone who may know, perhaps it is like 'the ways' (in Wheel of Time)... just a massive 'network' that isn't entirely specific. Celestia may just act as a 'way gate', allowing access to a realm that connects many worlds. You sort of just go and eventually come to another gate, allowing exit to Celestia of another world. Perhaps the appearance of the gate changes based on the person activating it.
Perhaps, the cube encapsulations were like sticking them in a pokeball, to then be thrown through the door to Teyvat.
Looking at the intro, it looks like the two travel between worlds... and someone who has decided they want control of the realm between worlds decided to stop them. It wasn't that they were fleeing Teyvat, but that they visited and left again... and then were thrown back. (Like a space ship stopping by a planet, then Klingons blasted them out of the sky so they're stranded on a primitive planet. And who pays attention to the Prime Directive? Interfere? Oh yeah.)
It could be that Celestia is just a Geosynchronous space station orbiting the Planet that contains Teyvat and the Dark Sea...
(For those who don't know, Geosynchronous means any satellite that orbits the planet in such a way that the speed of revolution of the satellite matches the speed of rotation of the planet on its own axis, thus giving the fake appearance that the satellite is just hovering above the surface...)
And we also know that there are more structures in the Sky of Teyvat other than Celestia, that are the Lunar Palace (perhaps destroyed now)and the Chariot of the Morningstars
I think this realm with the pilliars is simply a gateway between many different worlds. Since the twins were expierenced and powerful travellers between these worlds. But they got ambushed in this space by someone even more powerful and were forced to stay in Tevyat. I wouldn't be suprised if beyond that realm there would be even more powerful and ancient beings then the sustainer.
That brings me to another theory. What if, Paimon is a creature that belongs to that mistaken for celestia area that theoretically could be a pathway to different worlds. It would make sense why we enter tevyat through a door. If we believe there are many doors connecting to different worlds each. And we were stopped there by that unknown "god" and pushed back to tevyat.
Back to Paimon, if she belongs to that area, it would make sense why no archon knows anything about her, not anybody in tevyat ever has seen or read about Paimon before. Simply because she doesn't belong to tevyat per se. But since she, (If we assume belongs to that pathway were we got stopped to leave) is someone from there, it would make sense that she stands above archons and can control certain things. Maybe she's hiding her plans. Or maybe she forgot entirely why she came into tevyat just to be rescued by us
But it's also sus why no one is questioning what she is. What race she belongs to and why she's the only thing in whole tevyat besides monsters that can float. She's ignored by anybody who meets her for the first time. People do acknowledge that she's a flying thingy, but that's all. Not even kids question what she is and why she can float and talk.
In the enconomiya quest, after we fought with enjou for the first time, he said "don't trust people blabla, take that floating thing for example. one day it could turn it's back to you blabla" (Something along these lines)
What IF, paimon can kinda mindcontrol everybody into ignoring her so that no one, not even us who fish her out of the water, don't question what kind of creature she is.
@@HmLys Prinzessin, Paimon is............
Emergency food!🎉
In fact, unnamed island has fog, we can't see even the beach, but can see the celestia. Somehow it can be related with the "fake" sky
I am sure about one thing....the pillars at the start menu are the exact same pillars in dragonspine and the chasm....also, piamons clothes has that pattern of the pillars on her near her hands and legs....so she is def related to this shit
I always thought Teyvat is under a dome, and the loading screen is the entrance of this dome.
I will tell you a simple answer.
"It's a cluster of gateway to the parallel worlds".
I mean It area we see could also be a gate leading to different worlds but I think this area definitely is the area you discribed
0:09 𝘀𝘂𝘀tainer
Imagine all this deep and sophisticated lore, it zooms out and it just reveals fuckin, Carole and Timido playing this game that Bronya developed.
This place could be something greater than celestia and the sustainer, something greater then even the gods of celestia. Or more like a being that enforces the rules of their world that even the gods adhere too. This could be the reason the twins were stopped from leaving. They were allowed entry, but once they learned of the world of teyvat, the sustainer could not allow them to leave and possibly give out information about their world. That place could be heaven where the sustainer resides and similarly at the start of the game where we enter the gates to teyvat, that could have been the heaven in our previous world before teyvat.
I am pretty sure the Celestia we see in the sky is not a 3D model, rather just a floating sprite. I assume it's a placeholder just like the Dragonspine mountain, Inazuma islands, or even The Chasm's current in-game form. And when the time comes for us to finally go there, we may see Celestia that's similar in overall shape but very different in details.
well ofc thats the case here, if it was 3d model rather then 2d lot of ppl or private servers would have been their and spoil it so as closer we get to the end or further in game the celestia will take its actual form.
it now has a 3d model
That would make sense that they were trying to leave, because if you think about it, when you start the game.. You have the door when if you click your game loads.. So that would make sense that the door in the start screen could be called a gate to another world lorewise
Plot twist:
The place where we start and when we open the game, its called Bifrost or space bridge that connect to realms. While the unknown god who claimed as the sustainer, her name is Heimdall
8 islands for each of the elements (including Paimon aka archon of time!) (possibly 8 statues too, with one each being in Teyvat, Stateus of the Seven is called like that because Paimon did not get her own, possibly because she did something against The unknown god, like help Makoto save Inazuma, helped her protect Ei so she won't die, and helped her plant the tree in the past?
Travellers were... well.. Travellers, from another world. Fake sky is some kind of barrier which closes off Teyvat from rest of the...world?timeline?
They were travelling and when they enteret Teyvat, they were passing trough and once they entered, they couldnt live because they were stopped by realm of gods? Something we see in first cutscene and when we log into the game? Celestia might be portal to that world, and having 8 gnosises gives you power to enter the realm and fight a god (very similiar idea to No Game No Life). When you pull in the banner you literally summon people from another worlds/timelines, thus the falling stars.
Tsarista and Harbringers wish is to literally fight the god. I believe The god, destroyed people of Khaenri'ah because there were known to not believe in any god like figiure and they were the most advanced race.
3:44 Venti mentions Celestia in one of his voice line
The cube is the strongest force, even in the real world like the Kabbah
IMO probably that place the twins fought Sustainer is a some kind of "gate" or "checkpoint" boundaries or like that, you know when we want to go out to other countries usually only 1 or 2 airports that allowed to do so. And since Archons are inhabitants of Teyvat, they didn't really know or doesn't have any knowledge or desires to go there and beyond
Yes, that place is basically a border of the teyvat universe in a sense
I don't think it is Celestia either, but i think you should know (and review) that the design and decorations of the loading screen, also known as the place where the sustainer battled the twins, has the exactly same architectonic style of the statues of the seven archons. They both have the same type of white stone with the same type of golden decorations, so this place is, at very least, sharing the same source/designer.
Also, we enter to Teyvat through a gate we open in this place. This means that, while the twins arrived Teyvat in meteors, they probably heard about this place and tried to used to get an easy travel to the next world, before the sustainer of heavenly principles appeared to stop them.
Ps: architecture and archon have etymological relation.
so what im getting from that is celestia is basically visible but still unreachable to regular people and even the traveller's possibly. so let's say someone tried to reach up there they would not reach it...they would just be going upwards endlessly into space and the distance may never close. but maybe when they die they ascend to celestia and maybe the twins can access that place as well when they regain their full power that the unknown goddess took away from them both. this is mostlikely the reason why the unknown goddess took away their power to stop them from hopping from world to world.
Did anyone notice this there are 7 elements and there is 7 islands surrounding the middle one and the middle one is Omni element which means the middle island in celestial is the omni element that means it’s the heavenly principles.
The floating island is probably a gate to Celestia, like a sky harbor
The reason no lore mentions this is because this realm does not exist in Teyvat. It just looks like endless bridges or roads and may function like an interdimensional highway. If we take the opening screen as literal, these roads lead to doorways and we enter it every time we boot up the game to go to Teyvat. I still think this has something to do with the Balladeer's false sky theory. But I have no way to connect it yet except for speculation.
What if the structure in the sky is only part of Celestia, like an entrance or outpost? Hardly anyone ascends and it doesn't seem like they come back to tell people about it, so perhaps there's more to it than the people of Teyvat know. Perhaps that floating island thing is simply an area to house the gateway to the infinite pillar/cloud area we see. The abyss has a specific entrance, so perhaps Celestia does too. Perhaps that island was also set up as a place to house the 7 Archon thrones in Celestia, but they have no or limited access to the wider area because they're lower ranking gods than the Celestial gods. All of that is pure speculation and could be horrendously wrong, but who knows at this point.
All theory in Genshin go BRUH
The world in the intro is 'The Log-in World', meant only for Genshin / Origin God / The Player. The Twins trespassed. The Unknown God being the System Administrator, quickly removed them.
Later on, The Player, Genshin. Adopted the form and memories of one of the Twins. But s/he is NOT Aether/Lumine.
Each twin is 'trapped' in a 'parallel universe'. Aether is in the one with Genshin Lumine, Lumine is in the one with Genshin Aether.
maybe the place where the game starts in like the realm that connects differents worlds, taking that the twins travel through different worlds
The loading screen is just an aesthetic choice though. In the scenes with the Unknown God we see that there are indeed limits and an ending point. Several are shown in this video.......it doesn't actually go on endlessly. 🙃
Edit: 0:27 there's a very clear ledge that the twins land on.
2:56 you can clearly see that the pillars stop here.
3:57 again, you can clearly see that the pillars don't go on forever and there's just clouds. Which, it could have just been extra cloudy that day.
I agree that the place where the twins battle the unknown god and the start menu is not celestia, however I do not agree on the heavenly place, cos I had come to the conclusion that that place is likely to be some sort of a “gate” which link to other world(s).
The floating island in the sky which is called celestia may also be actually an island from teyvat, but created using materials from teyvat and designs maybe from ancient civilization and the “gate”.
The reason why I saying that it a “gate”, cos there was a “door” we will enter to “play” the game; which make me theorized that we are entering though the gate in order to enter into teyvat. So instead of saying it something of a border, I theorized that it might be where the “gate”/“door” is.
The reason for my theory is that; we know Jade chamber exists, and if anyone missed it, when we were looking for the crystals that can make the jade chamber float, the “crystal” was told that if active, can float non-stop into the sky.
The jade chamber was only set to that altitude, but what I theorized is that celestia might be using the same way but to a higher altitude. Another reason for the theory is that we also know Jade chamber can be control like a vehicle when it move to find the hydra gods couples. And we know very well that celestia is moving, which bring more conclusive proof to my theory.
The enkanomiya was the final reason for my theory, as it was there that we know celestia didn’t exist before, and it was created by god(s) for the god(s). Noticing I am still uncertain about the actual number of god(s) up there.
But I think we can safely say there might be someone or something up in that floating island.
It should be noted that in the second quest we see Dainsleif, the traveler comments about their encounter with the unknown god and how before she intercepted the twins the traveler saw the destruction of a nation, of which both them and Dainsleif believe was Khaenri'ah.
The heaven realm may be a gateway to another dimension because there is a new place like that in honkai and they said that honkai and genshin is canonically connected
i think this is the place that connects one world to another world
I think it's the uppermost border between teyvat and other parts of the sea of quanta
As it's entirely possible Teyvat is simply one of many worlds as Otto saw it while peeking into said sea of quanta & finding a kind of yggdrasil style world tree
That floating platform is something that holds the "fake" sky, maybe that place has a portal that can teleport us to the actual celestia.
mc: *Crossing from realm to realm.* Something like this line hehe...
book: *9 realms... each 9 realms has a world of its own.*
*The gods has a world of its own...*
I think thats the gateway or platform to cross from realm to realm were the mc is standing in which the sustainer of heavenly principles block there path... (But not celestia) 🤔
Celestia has a "limited" space of its own.. a "floating enkanomiya perhaps" or a "floating abode" like in the serenitea pot.
I think the bridge that also connects celestia between its floating islands looks like same as in the serenitea pot kind of bridges... 🤔
Legend of the shattered halberd.
Great topic as always... Kudos 👍🏾👍🏾
My guess is that the Celestia seen in the game (floating islands) is just were the archon and the others "chosen by the gods" go. But the real Celestia is above the fake sky and that's were the actual gods (the ones that came from out of Teyvat) reside.
But also consider the plane of euthymia. It's limited in size likely due to the power of its creator. Where Celestia, the Gods have more power to create infinite planes of existence, and that may be a plane to cross through before exiting the plane that is teyvat. like the airlock doors leaving buildings, or in those rotating glass doors, or some airports (conceptually). If the sky is fake then it's just the ability to see the illusion, and where the door actually is, which is that plane.
I see the 'loading screen' like the Genshin Impact version of the Honkai Impact's Sea of Quanta, a Nexus between worlds.
In fact it makes sense to be the starting screen of the game because is what we use to go from our real world to the world of Teyvat.
I believe that it’s like portal or something to enter Teyvat.
we all know that in genshin is many, maybe infinite worlds.
this can be like corridor to Tevyat world or spaxe between worlds
and remember: not everything that is in books is confirmed
Thank you for clearing it up. Man, how many realms are there? Human, Vishap/Light, Abyss, Heaven? Are there more?
Enkonomiya is a realm between the three realm of human(earth) , vishap elemental(light realm) and abyssal (void realm) and in enkonomiya is said called to be the nether just like Minecraft nether