I buy a lot from Ona, and a couple of other local roasters. And usually around $65-90 AUD/kilo for specialty single origins in small bags. If it's more expensive than that I would rather pay for a cup in a cafe - I don't want to put higher priced coffee through my cheaper grinders.
Are those prices from Czech market converted to Eur or do you import coffee from some other European markets? In Poland the most I've spent for specialty coffee was 55 eur/kg, but usually I'm buying dark, espresso roast brazilian coffee for 25 eur/kg. If I would be more addicted to coffee I wouldn't spent that much and buy coffee packed in bigger packs, which can cost less per kilo, but since I drink only one per day It's not that bad.
I think what this really goes to show is how hard it is to tell cost of a coffee even when you have a lot of experience. The price is often times dictated by rarity and uniqueness rather than actual quality. The rarer varietals can often cost more than justified for the experience they bring. I appreciate the willingness to show and get it wrong in these videos to demonstrate that point 🙂
I guess it is difficult to find coffee at drastically different price points which are roasted similary. But would be interesting to see if he can tell much easier which one is expensive and which one isn't when they'd buy cheap and expensive green beans and roast them similary.
Did you watch the full video? Watch from about the 14min mark. Basically if a coffee is poor quality you can hide it by roasting it more. A poor quality coffee lightly roasted would be easier to pick out
@@domnuske3019 yeah, but at the same time, it's easier to assume that dark roasted beans are inferior quality than medium roasted beans haha. Tho i get the nuance.
@@Mikehaelohim they could compare light roasted 'standard' specialty coffee with a really premium specialty. Idk about European prices but in Australia you can find light roasted specialty coffees for around $50-60/kg, and higher tiers at $100+ Edit: the last test was good. Teach me to comment while I'm still watching
wonderful video, well done and thank you for for taking the risk of caffeine overdosing 😂i remember i did something like this at home trying to test my taste of different coffee, from the cheap to the expensive, and finally i just felt dizzy at the rest of the day.
Thank you, glad you like it. Luckily, Tomo is used to tasting many coffee samples a day. Actually, we continued filming another topic later that day ☕️😅
@@EuropeanCoffeeTrip How about a blind taste test with coffee beans purchased from a chain coffee shop (like Starbucks) and coffee beans purchased from a specialty coffee shop. Thank you.
A great presentation from Tomo who comes across as both likeable and credible. I love how clearly and concisely the thought process was explained. One minor addition for the benefit novices would be macro shots of those defects that Tomo pointed out. Wonderful, thank you.
I try to stick to local rosted and in the teens, USD that is. So, like 13 or 17 USD. The reason for local is fewer finds and fresher. It is nice to try more high-end ones, but sometimes those can be overhyped and not as good as what I found with local places. This is just my experience.
What we learned from this video: Interesting, complex coffees is always expensive, bad coffee can also be expensive 😂 im a fan of natural processed ethiopian coffee, what exactly was the pile up ethiopian in round 3?
I buy coffee from Chikmagalur, India. It's 100% arabica, natural processed and medium roast and I pay like 15 euro or 1200 rupees. The notes are of chocolate, cherry and some other red fruitish. I brew them in a South Indian coffee filter and then add bit of hot water and I really enjoy every sip of it. (Also, haven't seen any international coverage of this filter, it's cheap, sustainable and very easy to use, please try to make a video on it).
I usually buy my coffees online, for about $18 - $25 USD for a 12oz bag. Its complicated to want to try expensive specialty coffees when you’re starting college 😂.
You can definitely do it though! If you're in an area that has a lot of specialty coffee shops they'll typically offer pour overs of some nicer coffees for you to try a cup of. Check around!
I wish I was in an area like that lol. I only got like 3 Starbucks around me, and I don’t like their coffee all that much anymore. Might be some places around my school though so I’ll have to check those out. I’m aware of the pour over situation my coffee shop (similar to a Starbucks) does this, but we only carry medium-dark to dark roast.
Good point! The video was meant to be fun and educative. The point was not to score the coffees exactly on the quality, just to describe how they taste, how they are roasted and what I think about the price. But you are right cupping would be a nice way to taste them for sure! Maybe in another video.
Indeed, there are some coffee that are ridiculously overpriced. I've experienced rare coffee at unjustified prices and learned to avoid the notion of expensive coffee tasting better than others. However, imo, the farmer and their efforts to grow high quality coffee are exhibited in every cup. Great coffee at low prices are suspect and really questions if large coffee companies are taking advantage of farmers.🤔
my favourite coffee is washed ethiopian. (yes im sorry it is problably the most unecological) light roasted. I have paid between 12-25 euros on average. For me this coffee is the best but a lot of roasters roast it too dark. Also the shelf live is important. This coffee degrades very quickly after roasting specially the nasal aromas. it owuld be nice if you make a video with coffees of different place tasting A= 2 days after roasting B = 14 days after roasting C = 30 days after roasting (I have seen shops offering that old roasted coffees)
I would use lower water temperature for dark roast. If you prepared dark roasts the same way as light ones, there is reason why dark roast lost everytime.
What coffee beans do you buy, and how much do you pay per kilo?
I buy a lot from Ona, and a couple of other local roasters. And usually around $65-90 AUD/kilo for specialty single origins in small bags. If it's more expensive than that I would rather pay for a cup in a cafe - I don't want to put higher priced coffee through my cheaper grinders.
I mostly buy Ethopian coffee from a local roaster and pay around 25-35€/kg
Thanks for sharing! Indeed, higher-priced coffees can’t shine enough without proper equipment.
Nice! Thanks for sharing your price point.
Are those prices from Czech market converted to Eur or do you import coffee from some other European markets? In Poland the most I've spent for specialty coffee was 55 eur/kg, but usually I'm buying dark, espresso roast brazilian coffee for 25 eur/kg. If I would be more addicted to coffee I wouldn't spent that much and buy coffee packed in bigger packs, which can cost less per kilo, but since I drink only one per day It's not that bad.
I think what this really goes to show is how hard it is to tell cost of a coffee even when you have a lot of experience. The price is often times dictated by rarity and uniqueness rather than actual quality.
The rarer varietals can often cost more than justified for the experience they bring. I appreciate the willingness to show and get it wrong in these videos to demonstrate that point 🙂
Wouldn't having similarly roasted beans for comparison would make it more difficult to guess?
I guess it is difficult to find coffee at drastically different price points which are roasted similary. But would be interesting to see if he can tell much easier which one is expensive and which one isn't when they'd buy cheap and expensive green beans and roast them similary.
@@Mikehaelohim but at least they'll be more comparable than a medium roast and a dark roast haha
Did you watch the full video? Watch from about the 14min mark. Basically if a coffee is poor quality you can hide it by roasting it more. A poor quality coffee lightly roasted would be easier to pick out
@@domnuske3019 yeah, but at the same time, it's easier to assume that dark roasted beans are inferior quality than medium roasted beans haha. Tho i get the nuance.
@@Mikehaelohim they could compare light roasted 'standard' specialty coffee with a really premium specialty. Idk about European prices but in Australia you can find light roasted specialty coffees for around $50-60/kg, and higher tiers at $100+
Edit: the last test was good. Teach me to comment while I'm still watching
wonderful video, well done and thank you for for taking the risk of caffeine overdosing 😂i remember i did something like this at home trying to test my taste of different coffee, from the cheap to the expensive, and finally i just felt dizzy at the rest of the day.
Thank you, glad you like it.
Luckily, Tomo is used to tasting many coffee samples a day. Actually, we continued filming another topic later that day ☕️😅
^Personally I don´t care much about the price per bag (250 gram) if it doesn´t get too expensive. I look for: Roast date, origin, processing.
Really enjoyed this video. Hope you make more like this. Thank you so much 😊
Thank you! What kind of challenge would you like to see in the future?
@@EuropeanCoffeeTrip How about a blind taste test with coffee beans purchased from a chain coffee shop (like Starbucks) and coffee beans purchased from a specialty coffee shop. Thank you.
A great presentation from Tomo who comes across as both likeable and credible. I love how clearly and concisely the thought process was explained. One minor addition for the benefit novices would be macro shots of those defects that Tomo pointed out. Wonderful, thank you.
Thank you, Michael ☕️💙 Good feedback, it was a challenging video to edit (right) but could still improve 🙏
I try to stick to local rosted and in the teens, USD that is. So, like 13 or 17 USD. The reason for local is fewer finds and fresher. It is nice to try more high-end ones, but sometimes those can be overhyped and not as good as what I found with local places. This is just my experience.
lovely presentation 😋 nice sharing friend. Please stay connected 👍
Thank you! :)
Thanks guys for this much requested video. 🙏🏻
Thanks! It took us a little longer to edit it but we hope it is worth it. Tomo shared interesting insights during tasting ☕️👍
@@EuropeanCoffeeTrip - Indeed. Thanks Tomo.
Great video. I would really like to know the type of the 12€ coffee in the second round.
Here in Chile i pay between 8 and 12 USD/EUR per 250gr bags of specialty coffee.
Yes, we're privileged
What we learned from this video: Interesting, complex coffees is always expensive, bad coffee can also be expensive 😂
im a fan of natural processed ethiopian coffee, what exactly was the pile up ethiopian in round 3?
Lukas, that is quite on point! :D Hopefully sometimes a really good coffee can be for a good price as well.
Can I get LIBERICA AND EXCELSIA, light roast, organic, honey process coffee beans?
I buy coffee from Le Grain Perché (Bio Roaster in Angers France), Pérou, Sanchirio Paloma, 26€/kg
I buy coffee from Chikmagalur, India.
It's 100% arabica, natural processed and medium roast and I pay like 15 euro or 1200 rupees.
The notes are of chocolate, cherry and some other red fruitish.
I brew them in a South Indian coffee filter and then add bit of hot water and I really enjoy every sip of it. (Also, haven't seen any international coverage of this filter, it's cheap, sustainable and very easy to use, please try to make a video on it).
Care to share the filter? I'm interested.
@@user-kd2ez2mb3c +1 this sounds super intriguing!
Here's a good video on the same, ua-cam.com/video/tXArZCJN4aY/v-deo.html
Thank you for your education
Great video! which recipe used in the extraction?
Can you please do a video on w60 ?
35-45€ pr kilo
The 11th coffe was from Ecuador? My Ecuador? And I'm still tasting a bad coffee? I'm upset
Great video!
I usually buy my coffees online, for about $18 - $25 USD for a 12oz bag. Its complicated to want to try expensive specialty coffees when you’re starting college 😂.
You can definitely do it though! If you're in an area that has a lot of specialty coffee shops they'll typically offer pour overs of some nicer coffees for you to try a cup of. Check around!
I wish I was in an area like that lol. I only got like 3 Starbucks around me, and I don’t like their coffee all that much anymore. Might be some places around my school though so I’ll have to check those out. I’m aware of the pour over situation my coffee shop (similar to a Starbucks) does this, but we only carry medium-dark to dark roast.
Very cool and useful video.
Thank you, Ondrej ☕️🙏
Thank you! :)
Why not using standart SCA cupping method, it would be more reliable i guess
Good point! The video was meant to be fun and educative. The point was not to score the coffees exactly on the quality, just to describe how they taste, how they are roasted and what I think about the price. But you are right cupping would be a nice way to taste them for sure! Maybe in another video.
Pls taste n review coffee from java island at Papandayan mountain volcano arabica koffie garden ..
Any chance to get the name of the 12e coffee from round two?
Indeed, there are some coffee that are ridiculously overpriced. I've experienced rare coffee at unjustified prices and learned to avoid the notion of expensive coffee tasting better than others. However, imo, the farmer and their efforts to grow high quality coffee are exhibited in every cup. Great coffee at low prices are suspect and really questions if large coffee companies are taking advantage of farmers.🤔
What is the difference between 10$ Coffe and 100$ Coffee? We eanted to find out and bought 81$ coffee.
Can you taste the difference between 80 points,85 points anf 90 points graded coffee ?
Oh yeah no problem.
Who the hell dark roast single origin sidama coffee? That's a waste 😅
my favourite coffee is washed ethiopian. (yes im sorry it is problably the most unecological) light roasted. I have paid between 12-25 euros on average. For me this coffee is the best but a lot of roasters roast it too dark. Also the shelf live is important. This coffee degrades very quickly after roasting specially the nasal aromas. it owuld be nice if you make a video with coffees of different place tasting A= 2 days after roasting B = 14 days after roasting C = 30 days after roasting (I have seen shops offering that old roasted coffees)
my average price was for 250 g so kilo 24-50
Some of those would have tasted better if they were made as espresso.
I would use lower water temperature for dark roast. If you prepared dark roasts the same way as light ones, there is reason why dark roast lost everytime.
Although it might have improved the extraction, the flavor would be the same for me. :) Everyone can like something else tho.. ;)
I like A❤
Thats pretty much a copy of this video: ua-cam.com/video/liGwcuFyaNY/v-deo.html
That’s a nice video indeed. It was a good inspiration for our take on this topic.