The new IWC Mark XX is a huge upgrade with its new dials and bracelet
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2022
- Whether or not you are a seasoned collector, every collection needs a staple watch. A watch that excels in its simplicity, its versatility and reliability providing a rock-solid foundation within your collection. For many, the watch of choice to fill that role has been an IWC Mark. Robust, legible and handsome with its military and aviation charm, it is a trusted timekeeper that never fails to look good within the context of a wardrobe. Nevertheless, the watch was long overdue for a bit of an upgrade. With power reserves rising, along with the usage of manufacture calibres at lower price points, the Mark XVIII was losing its competitive edge. So, when IWC unveiled the new IWC Mark XX people were eager to scroll to the technical specifications. Sure, the watch, for the most part, looks like its predecessor. Under the hood though, along with some subtle dial revisions only the trained eye would see, the upgraded Mark XX was justified in skipping a number from XVIII to XX. And now, there is even more to explore...
The uninitiated will not particularly notice the changes from the Mark XVIII case to the Mark XX case. But we watch nerds will definitely catch the differences. The stainless-steel case has upgraded its screw-down crown secured depth rating to nearly twice as much, jumping from 60m to 100m. With the raised water-resistance, you may have assumed the case would be thicker - but, if you did, you assumed wrong. In fact, the 40mm case is a hair thinner at 10.8mm instead of 11mm. The case is also not only a touch thinner, but a touch more compact as well. The IWC Mark XX is more wrist-friendly than the Mark XVIII, with a shortened lug-to-lug of 49.2mm - a drop down from 51mm.
For the IWC Mark XX, IWC also made subtle adjustments to its iconic dial. With a new IWC manufactured calibre taking the place of the preceding Sellita-based calibre, the date window has a better positioning - perfectly standing between the second and fourth hour arabics rather than awkwardly sticking out. Also, in regard to the date, normally collectors prefer a disc that blends into the dial. But IWC recognised that for legibility it would be better to have a contrasting black on white disc, rather than the previous white on black. And, in this instance, it actually works better, as it continues the radial layout of white on the matte black backdrop the hour arabics provide.
Joining the matte black dial and sunburst blue dial is a new sunburst green dial for the Mark XX. The sunburst finish elevates the elegance factor a tad, dressing up a more traditionally utility-driven timepiece. The indices at 3', 6' , and 9' have also been slightly elongated, providing a pseudo sector-like balance the dial did not have previously. These are things only dial purists would catch, but they are welcome changes nonetheless. The remainder is what we already know and love: a legible dial with printed hour Arabics, indices, and outer minutes track, along with a broad central hours and minutes handset, that like the hour indices, are coated with SuperLuminova®
When the watch was quietly announced in July, it was unveiled on a EasX-CHANGE leather strap that can be quickly detached in favour of another IWC EasX-CHANGE strap. But many wondered where is a bracelet? Well, as you can see a bracelet has arrived for the IWC Mark XX, allowing you to quickly swap between leather, rubber, MiraTex, textile straps, or steel bracelet at your heart's content.
The bracelet takes on the signature five-piece link format you are likely already familiar with from IWC, richly brushed with the narrower intermediary links and bevelled shoulders mirror polished. The range of options that IWC provides also ensures you can make the most of the Mark XX, giving its classic pilot aesthetic on leather or utilising metal, textile, or rubber options to take full advantage of its heightened depth rating.
The most pertinent upgrade for gearheads is the IWC Mark XX's pivot to an IWC manufactured calibre. The Mark XVIII utilised the Sellita-based IWC 35111. While a workhorse calibre designed to IWC's specs, its sub two days 42 hours of power reserve left a little bit to be desired in a modern marketplace saturated with weekend-proof movements. Well, how does 120 hours sound? With nearly three times the power reserve, the IWC manufactured calibre 32111 affords IWC Mark XX owners five full days of power reserve. While you cannot see it beneath an engraved caseback, the automatic and hacking-seconds IWC manufactured calibre is decorated with Côtes de Genève and perlage befitting of a Swiss movement.
The IWC Mark XX is available to purchase now via IWC boutiques and their e-commerce platform, along with authorized dealers. Price: Starting at $5,250 USD
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every time I want to buy a cheaper watch, I just watch this video and I am able to it off so I can save up the money to get a mark xx some day. IWC is my favorite brand and this spec is the mark I've been waiting for!
This summer i turn 50 and this watch will be my aniversary watch to buy.
Nice video 👏🏻 Good to see the green dial getting coverage. A surprising amount of hate & haters 👹 in these comments, relax everyone… if you don’t have enough money to buy this watch or you do and choose not to invest your money in this particular model, it’s cool… just chill out and try not to make this great hobby a toxic environment, especially by using price as your sole argument 🤦♂️
IMO the Mark XX is an outstanding evolution of a model line that is now packed with well executed refinements. Better 1/4 indices, better numeral and dial spacing, better lug shapes, smaller lug width, 5-day power reserve, quick change straps, etc. all make for a better version than the previous XVIII for $500 more. It wears better too. And the best strap you didn’t mention or show is the new rubber versions. It’s a near perfect daily wear piece on the rubber strap IMO.
Well said!
Completely agree. I was in the store for another watch from another brand and saw the black one. I was hooked right away. The proportions are outstanding, almost perfect. This model is pure emotion! Get the one that you like and stop talking about the price.
Bought mine last week. Green Dial with steel and Brown leather bracelet. Super satisfied
I just bought my prefect watch for every day use.
Great review 👍
That shade of green is nice. Would be great to see in person. Thanks for sharing.
Stunning watch, I own a mark 18 in black and will definitely be getting the green or blue on bracelet.
IWC you are iconic, true collectors know it.
the dial looks sharper and overall more refined. 40mm is the sweet spot. I like each of the 3 colours shown - perhaps black on black is a slight preference...thx T&T - keep 'em coming...
have you seen 18 dial?
Great video of Mark XX. I am especially in love with the green dial ✅
Yeep, the green dial is also my favorite. Great watch and kaliber
Mark XX Beautiful watch - decided to go with IWC Big Pilot 43 Blue dial - liked the fit . Size and the clean dial without date. Absolutely stunning my new everyday watch replacing my Tag Heuer.
Perfect review - thank you!
The white date wheel compliment the balance of Number '9" index on dial balance, its make more sense to keep it white.
Would love to own the green dial on bracelet 😍
Green looks good.About 6 weeks or so ago, I got the blue IWC Mk. XX, great watch.
How are you finding it?
I've got a Tudor GMT, Tudor BB58 Blue and Tag Heuer Carrera.
Really want a pilot style watch.
Nice upgrade. Compared to my XVIII thought I much prefer the preview date. With white font on black back fits in so much better. I also like the fully brushed previous bracelet. Otherwise the mechanism is the big upgrade which is great
That green is fire!
No
LOVE IT! Might just be the watch to get me to look again at IWC
Oh boy!!! I tried the version with metal bracelet and could not let it go…easily…
Even my son, who doesn’t care usually, just loved the watch… sorting mortgage first 😢and then I start saving for this baby 😅😅!!!
Note: apparently, it should be possible to adapt 3rd party leather straps tbc
Woating for the bracelet xx to be available. And once it does, gonna grab one.
IWC isnmy fav watch brand
The bracelet looks good… would go for it with the black dial
Not a fan of the polished links though. Doesn’t suit the pilot / tool vibes
@@thegraciefighter102 hmmm have you seen it in person? I'd also tend to go for a brushed one. Would be nice to have the option.. bracelet looks incredible.
I have the XVIII le petit prince and still love it
Looks cool.
I love the green dial change according to dial's position.
The in house movements need time to be proved as rugged and accurate.
I don't mind the Mark XVIII as it is a beautiful watch.
From IWC I like the most the Portuguese Chronograph which for me is 'the watch'.
love it!
I have a blue Mark XIIX with bracelet and love the look. The Mark XX looks very similar to me. The power reserve of the XIIX means I need to wind it every morning, which is a bit annoying. I notice the difference when I wear my white birch that I can wear for over 2 weeks without needing a wind.
XIIX would have looked better on the dial ...
I saw video on youtube that mark 20 has jumping time change when occasionally pull out crown. It seems to have significant defects. I hope they fixed it.
Love my Mark XVI at half the price, but yes this is very cool
Same for me 😊 just wished it had this quick change strap system
@@perudolux would be nice, but I do like normal spring bars and quality straps (I love Bulang and Sons. They make really good straps and have lots of variety)
P.s. I tried the Mark xx and the strap change felt a little awkward to use .. also I rarely change up the straps or bracelets, so I don't think we're missing out with our mark 16...I think in many ways it's better than the new xx
@@Valera_Scotland great to hear 👍 yeah, I think I’ll keep my XVI. Size is great
nice watch ..
Fantastic watch.! I'm really glad they use an in-house movement. I would pay more for that, it's worth it. If they have a blue dial that would be nice.
They do have a blue sunburst dial! I am planning to get that one as my next.
The movement isn’t in house
@@whereRbearsTeeth It's more like a RIchemont in-house, not IWC in-house.
@@whereRbearsTeethyou must be obsessed with iwc, you're posting negative comments on every mark xx video.
@@coffeeboyclips1973 pretty ironic that you would say that lol. I’ve seen you blasting the comment section of every video trying to justify your purchase. I’ve even seen others calling you out for it. Grow up, admit you made a bad purchase, and move on.
Nice aircraft design on the solid caseback. Needs to lose the date window and I'm in.
Big Pilot 43 for your dateless needs.
I'll take the Blue Dial please! 😁
delete the date, and add the saphire caseback and i'm in. great watch, nonetheless. thanks for the review.
Mark VI remains the best... Dial matched date window... unbeatable
This IWC is very attractive
Really wish they would have kept the black date window and black sword hands. That’s the only thing that’s keeping me from getting the mark 20 over the 18.
Very nice but not sure about the pricing point !
Rhodium hands, polished bezel and polish links on bracelets. Blue and Green looks at home with all of those finishing. The question is does ti work with a matte black dial?
The date window white/black is awesome with the black and so are the rhodium hands with the polished bezel.
Hi. Do you recommend the iwc mark xx or Tudor black bay burgundy?
I absolutely love all the changes, but I wish they had changed out that plane on the case back for something cooler, OR made it a display case back and ditched it completely. Everything else is perfect. I also love that they came out with a green model, and the blue is gorgeous.
For daily wear a solid caseback is better. But seeing the movement is nice.
I'm not a fan of display casebacks, but I agree that the airplane on the back is a bit silly.
The plane is an aircraft that was used extensively by the Luftwaffe. I understand IWC's history of supplying watches to both sides, but this particular caseback homage was not necessary.
I was coming to the comments section to say exactly this. A solid caseback with no funny plane on it would make this watch perfect.
@@vianouche1 it's a ju52. Has some history with IWC. They could not print the spitfire obviously. None would be better, true
120 hours power reserve 🤔 just like the Oris 400 calibre 🤔 and they both have a problem with the hour hand twitching when you push the crown back in after adjusting the time 🤔 that’s a amazing coincidence for a “in house “ calibre 🤔
It’s not in house
@Time+Tide What's the wrist size showcased in the video?
No soft iron case back?
A well machine finished watch up against Breitling.
Date placement is a show stopper
Still very tall watch with 49mm LtL, hope they will shorten the watch for the upcoming model.
Is this smaller than typical iwc watches. My wrist is medium to small
Can you use non-IWC straps with this watch or only OEM???
Standard 20mm lugs so the sky is the limit on after market strap options.
Why are the bracelet and case finishes so different? It’s just not the same brushing 😊
Nice vid thanks. There’s a second T in Twenty by the way!
Does the bracelet taper?
IWC, slide the '9' and the date window 0.7 mm to the right, L2L 48mm height, then you have an almost perfect watch, at least a better proportion. Thanks.
Wish they would've made a window back
красивый зеленый цвет
Is it fully lumed now
For the money, one should get a cosc movement. Once they have better time accuracy tolerances it will be a great buy.
For some reason, IWC doesn't state whether the Mark XX retains a soft iron faraday cage against magnetism; does it have one?
Yes it does
@@Youy0u3010 Thank you! Weird how IWC missed clarifying this iconic feature.
The bracelet is great on its own, but looks like such an afterthought on the pilot. The design language is completely different.
Good, good, now make it 36mm
I was excited about the quick change system, but the new straps are a huge downgrade in quality from the XVIII. They just feel cheap, also not a fan of the blue with blue.
Also, don’t think they’ve really fixed the date disk. It’s slightly better, but it’s still not right.
No one is going to convince me richemont didn’t remove the black disk for anything other than cost cutting.
PR is a definite win though from the Richemont calibre.
Have you tried on the rubber straps?
I ended up buying the old XVIII strap for my XX for the reasons you state. The new strap is pretty bad. As far as the white date disk, I think it works much better as it visually balances the dial.
You would think that for 5 grand you’d get lume on the hour markers.
Just wish they’d a release a no date version :/
Hell no. I need a date
60 to 100m? Oh boy thats oldschool
Me likey likey.
Do you think there’d be any way to get a sapphire case back for this?
Geez, Ben Clymer has really let himself go since moving over from Hodinkee...
The Mark XIII looks better. This is a nice watch. A dress watch inspired by a pilot watch. The polished areas and more condensed look of the dial are a disappointing change. The toolish nature is mostly lost. That said, in green or blue, it's a beautiful sporty dress watch. Upgrade the XIII's bracelet and movement, leave the date window black: )
what is the xiii? can't find it
Mark XIII??
@@whereRbearsTeeth sorry Mark XVIII
Will they ever get the date window right?
What is the price of bracelet on its own
1000
Im curious. What is up with watch brands competing who has the highest power reserve? For me, anything beyond 2 days is just overkill. You either wear your watch daily or you have a watch rotation beyond the power reserve of the watch. In either scenario, 2 days is the sweet spot. I guess this would work in a collection of 3 to 5 watches total.
Love the nice and simple design, but pretty high price to pay. 😅
That’s like questioning the need for a Ferrari that can reach 200+mph when most people with one won’t go over 80.
2 days isn't enough. Short by at least a full 24 hours. I have plenty of watches to rotate through but taking a watch off your wrist on Friday to have it dead-stopped on Sunday afternoon, to then have to reset the time and date Monday morning is not a good experience. And the time keeping accuracy of a watch with a two day power reserve is horrible. Almost every mechanical watch will not keep good time if you do not have a certain amount force being applied by the barrel and a two day PR doesn't cut it for accuracy on that second day as it gets low.
I didn't think I'd care about the 5-day power reserve until I had it. Being able to wear something else for a few days and come back to this one humming along is pretty cool.
I rotate through 22 watches (theyre mostly seikos because im not rich 😅) that's why hefty power reserves don't really apply to me. I see your points though. Thanks for shedding some perspective on my opinion. 😊
@@ryangochuico you’re welcome. You win best and most human YT reply this month 😁👍🏻
it's much better than the 18! still that pesky date window isn't far enough out. IMO it needs a 39 mm case to remedy this.
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but are they gunna drop it in 36mm?
For my money I’ll take the Addiesdive MY-H2.
I want 36mm version.
You can say “IWC manufacture calibre” as many times as you like, it’s still a ValFleurier movement.
And? I don't understand the obsession with in house movements, I'll spend £50 and get a Seiko that keeps bad time if I wanted "in house".
@@coffeeboyclips1973 because they’re making a huge deal out of something which it is not. I’m not saying the ValFleurier is bad - but don’t label it in house if it isn’t. That’s all
@@craigb2697 how do you know it's not in house, have you been to the iwc factory and seen that they haven't made the movements.
@@coffeeboyclips1973 this information is widely available online when you look into the movement and it’s widely reported that it’s a ValFleurier movement. It isn’t a secret
@@coffeeboyclips1973 not all in-house are less than COSC performance. Some are much better actually.
Love mine... However they could have regulated the movements better. Sent it in under warranty. + 20 seconds a day is unacceptable.
Okay but does the bracelet have on-the-fly microadjustment?
Yes, one of the best.
Should've make the Mk 19. Because who doesn't love a belt-fed grenade launcher.
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@@whereRbearsTeeth Military grenade launcher designation. Just a little joke for ya
um......look simple.......
just because of it's branding name
Stowa Flieger classic 40 = 1,250 USD; IWC mark XX = 5,250 USD. Therefore, is the IWC logo and 5 day power reserve worth $4000? 😂
You are delusional if you think these two watches are even remotely comparable
@@whereRbearsTeeth they look exactly the same. Both brands made pilot watches for the German airforce in WW2.
I would actually get one of these, if it was sub-5000€ - but it's not, hence I just think for such a simplistic watch, a Tudor is just better value for money.
Problem with tudor is the brand prestige, you will always feel you are wearing a budget Rolex copy, save up for the iwc, it will be worth it in the long run.
@@coffeeboyclips1973Tudor makes better watches than Rolex though.
@@94jmbottaro how? I've owned both, Rolex is the superior product
Tudor designs are really bad, especially the weird hour hand
Mismatched date wheel is a deal-breaker - as is the polished links on the bracelet version. Sure it's an upgrade internally, but visibly this is a downgrade.
For this dial design, with the bold white numerals, a white date wheel offers a necessary balance. The black date wheel on the black XVIII leaves an awkward visual gap at 3 o'clock and I like that it's been corrected here.
@@MeestroDavid I a perfect world they could match the size of the date indicator with the size of the hour arabics like Oris does with their big date and maintain perfect symmetry with a black date wheel, but that doesn't really go with the history of the mark series. As it stands I still prefer the date on the XVIII, but I can see what you're saying. They'll win some and lose some with that change I suspect.
Thank god the new movement is decorated. Oh wait, we cant see it, so who cares?
Lovely watch but I can’t imagine spending 6k on a watch. That’s crazy to me.
Nice watch... Except for the stupid hole they punched in the dial. Also not available in black with bracelet = lol, I'll take a Laco thanks.
What do you mean? I see it in black on bracelet on the IWC site.
@@RedwoodAggie the Big pilot on bracelet comes only in blue lol
@@InsaneFame are you watching a different video
@@InsaneFame The watch in the video is the Mark XX, not the Big Pilot.
The hole punched?
How many times can you say “IWC” in one video!?
I just don't get this watch at this price. At $500, it would be a good option, but it's just not a competitor for 13 Hamiltons or whatever this price would buy.
The finishing is way above hamilton
@@AudiolandCH sure until it gets scratched up like the rest of them. You can’t convince me this is above ~2K worth of watch even with the bracelet. If you’re looking to spend 6K look elsewhere. JLC, omega, GS.
@@WooliteMammoth why spend 20k for a sub? Because you buy emotions. Same here the markup is just way less. So why complaining. It's a beautiful watch with a nice history. Buy what suits you.
@@AudiolandCH if you spend 20k on a sub you’re a clown though lol. I’m not saying that is any better.
This is the type of comment that people make when they really don’t know very much about watches.
Can you please start the video with specs… you can wax poetic after
open caseback still is not there
It's a basic movement so not that much to see.
@@shuycg No it's not, Geneva striping etc.
Thankfully...
Date window ruins the dial
IWC is still overpriced as hell. Now we get ETA based movements for 6k... Talk about history and design of the watches all you want, they are so overpriced its almost fraud.
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True. On the grey market and on the used market they are still very expensive. That's weird ...
@@evh4611 It is all just Marketing hype and the so called "history" of a watch that is a generic Flieger watch. Lots of people seem to only look at the brand name. If you want a Flieger watch that is worth its money, there are tons of options.
@@Hans-Georg_Buddne Laco?
@@evh4611 Laco or Stowa are great watches; if you want inhouse movements and a bit more quality, look for the discontinued Flieger models by Glashütte Original.
Huge upgrade? It is absolutely the same watch..
Except for a different movement, different case, increased water resistance, and tweaked dial design, yes...
Over $5k for this?? Sorry but this looks like a Fossil watch. And that date window is so disproportionate, why even include it?
lol this does not look anything like a fossil watch.
This green is really ugly in real. To bad.
$5200 ??? No thanks! Some people might not like this opinion but …just by Hamilton call it a day
5200 is the price for a Rolex oyster perpetual, a watch that is just on a totally different level than the IWCs
This IWC potato 🥔 is too much overhyped & overpriced just because of it's branding name.
@@Hans-Georg_Buddne how is a Rolex oyster on a different level, I've owned an OP and personally find my mark 18 is a better watch, get both watches and put them side by side and you will realise how good the iwc is.
@@coffeeboyclips1973 So you think a cool looking, shiny case and dial is where the production cost of a watch lies? Wrong! It is the movement, everything else is irrelevant in terms of value for money. Nothing wrong with liking the IWC design, but the movements make the watches a rip off.
@@Hans-Georg_Buddne so how much does it cost to manufacture an in house movement vs a non in house movement, so let's say the movement in a Rolex oyster vs the iwc movement. A rolex op probably costs less than £500 to make.
The date disk placement is still hideous. Move it out futher right for god sake
yeah I never got the Mark series. The have always seemed to me like a bland, homogenized version of the "proper" IWC watches, like the cheapened version if you cant afford the real thing.
I cannot justify spending 6K on a watch like this. When you hold it in the hand feels cheap. The most I would probably spend is $2500 on this watch.
Overpriced