My friend’s disabled daughter died and her Mom also confessed it was a relief. She wasn’t suffering, no one could hurt her, she didn’t have to worry what would happen to her child her after she and her husband passed away and she believed that her girl was now safe with her grandparents in heaven. There was nothing abnormal in Mary’s feelings. It didn’t mean she didn’t grieve and feel terrible guilt because she couldn’t save her boy. Placing him away from prying eyes of the Court and public was not cruel.
It was said by her son Edward that his mother was actually embarrassed and ashamed of her son John. How much of what he said is true, we will never know. One thing is certain. Edward was bitterly angry with his mother over this and for many other slights he felt from her, especially because she didn’t like his wife at all.
@dianeruiz0721 you are correct! Princess Margaret said the same about Queen Mary! Others have said she was embarrassed by her son! Patricia Gambino Harrington
@@brogsbunny sorry for your loss! It’s been 10 years & I still have days. Of course her daughter looks almost exactly like her, which still startles me at times. I hope you’re finding peace.
I have lost three children. One at 11weeks old another at 25 years and another at 34 years All unexpected. Good job we don't know the future. You learn to live with it but never lose that ache or pain. You just get used to it.
Unless you have lived with someone who has refractory epilepsy (can’t be controlled with drugs), don’t judge anyone who says the end is a relief. Dealing with someone seizuring daily, weekly, monthly, several times a day even, is emotionally and physically draining. It’s almost as traumatic for the carer as for the sufferer 😢
This. Not to mention there's a lot of deaths that are reliefs for loved ones who have watched their seeing dying loved one suffer. I was really annoyed she said "shocking response". It's really not shocking sis.... 🙄
This is an inaccurate documentary. The monarch has to abide by the advice of the cabinet and it was the latter that refused the Russian royal family asylum. The real scandal was the effective murder of George V. There was nothing wrong with Queen Mary other than a slavish attention to duty which made her cold and unfeeling in public. She was possibly the most educated member of the royal family - from her years living in Florence
And yet the eldest couldn’t have cared less for him. If anything he was happy as he didn’t know him or of cared less about him being so much older than him.
I deal with children with mental challenge who are sometimes prone to epileptic seizures. It is living hell for their parents especially their mothers. Have been around when 16 of them died prematurely. Their mothers the primary caregiver go through days of grief and sometimes self blame. Finally when acceptance sets in it is a great relief, of a duty well done and then only the mothers find peace. Do not underestimate their grief. --Debashis Ray
The Victorian - Edwardian world was ashamed of epilepsy, downs syndrome, hemophilia, mental illness, physical disability (think Helen Keller) not the least because of the rising now discredited Eugenics movement. So they hid their loved ones to reduce public embarrassment & judgement of the monarchy. As society changed & accepted & stabilized post WW2 the true stories could come out. We should be grateful the world has improved in this respect.
I just read a biography of King George V, Mary's husband, and the most interesting thing I learned was that the king predicted that his son Edward would abdicate, although he thought it would be because his son was not fit to be king and didn't actually want to reign.
Cair l24 this is true my grandmother told me this when l was a kid, the King was obsessed with the fact that Edward was the heir to the throne because he was without responsabilty and intelligence and he actually hated the idea to be the future King of the British Empire and Wallis (divorced)was a good excuse to abdicate
Oh dear, bad day hun? Wrong King & wrong 'facts'. Creditors are the people who lend money, not debtors. The Tecks wouldn't be v bright, if, as you said they were to go "fleeing from their debtors", because your debtors are in debt to you, they owe you money! Your creditors (like the bank who owns your mortgage or car loan) have extended credit to you - So you now have their credit funds, YOU are THEIR debtor &the debt must be repaid at some point. The Teck's Debtors (people like renters of Teck properties, tenant farmers & other businesses they had a financial interest in) would/should have been trying to pay the Tecks what was owed to them. Fire your facts guy, he's not on task.
Please do not report any more Royal stories until you understand Royalty the obligations and responsibilities of the position and the difficulties of their lives. To say Queen Mary had blood on her hands is slander.
Agreed. Americans should be banned from talking about anything to do with European history or culture. They never get it right. And what is with the bizarre pronunciation of standard words?
@MaryScott-ue7ih as the claim was made in writing it cannot be slander. Slander is committed when a person states something is true knowing in fact it is not! As it was written it might be Libellous - but here (as also applies to slander) under the laws of the UK you can print what you like, say what you like about a deceased person and you commit no crime because the person is dead.
Difficulties of their lives? Sycophantic trash. Pampered spongers, there by accident The icons of self regarding snobs. A symbol of everything rotten in this self regarding country. Ugh! If only Britain had got rid of its monarchy like others in Europe. A sentimentalised prop to privilege and selfishness.
Considering this channel cannot fact check enough to know the difference between Edward VII (Queen Mary’s father-in-law) and her abdicating son, Edward VIII, I wouldn’t put much weight to any of the other content. The channel name, “Factinate,” is especially ironic considering the shoddy fact checking.
Please, Americans, do not do British history podcasts unless you properly research it. The Crown, Downton Abbey and Wikipaedia does not count as accurate research.
Americans also can't grasp there is no such title of King or Queen of England, since England is not a kingdom. I know a lot of people use it because it's shorter than King or Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Brittan and Norther Ireland, but that doesn't make it correct.
True, some of we US "Americans" DO fit into your impression of us. Fortunately, not all of us are gormless. Just an FYI, "Factinate" is based in Toronto, Canada, a Commonwealth Realm. I agree "The Crown" was awful and Downton Abbey, well, it was entertaining.
As a child my godmother took me to Windsor to see the carpet the Queen had embroidered. I still have the souvenir book and it inspited me to take up needlework and tapestry.
Mary had absolutely nothing to do with the decision not to bring the Tsar and his family to Engliand, she didn't have that power so therefore had no blood on her hands, where you came up with that kind ofsensational comment is beyond me.
Her husband wanted to save them, they were 1st cousins. I believe overall she may of played a role (who knows) in it. Overall between the King and parliament they were scared of what was happening in Germany happening in England. She may of had no power, but even a wife can hold a lot of power in persuading her husband. Just like Albert did a lot of persuading on Victoria. Nobody will ever know. Some historians think Mary told the doctors to inject a lethal dose of something so he’d die and be out of pain. Many were heavy smokers like their fathers before them and paid the price for it.
@@mizaucontraire9224 your contradicting yourself. It was Prince Albert weighed heavily into changing victorias way. Like saving money than her “that’s how it’s always been” ways. He didn’t feel the need of a servant doing tasks they were more than capable of doing like starting a fire in the fire place. She paid it no attention as that’s how it’s always been.
@@lizlyon2902there is a picture of our late Queen taken when she was three years old, her features are uncannily like those if her grandmother, who in her late years was a very regal imposing figure, with beautiful skin.
One serious flaw in this otherwise absorbing narrative is that "Queen Mary, was born, christened and known as " Princess MAY of Teck" until her marriage to then then "Prince George", only changing her name to the more dignified "Mary" after the coronation, as I understand.. One of my favourite stories concerning the Dowager Queen although indirectly, took place in the 1930's when the directors of the "Cunard Steamship Line" approached King George for permission to name their new, massive, passenger liner " Victoria". They began their audience by saying, "Your Majesty, it is our most earnest desire to name our new liner after England's greatest Queen..". But before they could actually reveal the chosen name, His Majesty promptly interjected saying, " Thank You, I am sure that my wife will be delighted to have your new ship named after her...!". It was a "fait accompli" and the directors hurriedly retreated to make the necessary changes... Thus began the illustrious career of probably the most famous Ocean "Queen " of all...
I am sorry but it is your statement that is actually flawed, her real name that she was born and christened with is Victoria Mary Augusta Louise Olga Pauline Claudine Agnes. Everyone outside of close family and friends always referred to her as Mary but close friends and family called her by her nickname May because she was born in the month of May and as a way to differentiate between her and her mother Mary Adelaide. May was not her legal name at any point in time just a nickname, which she was still called by those closest to her even after her coronation, like how those closest to Queen Elizabeth gave her the nickname Lilibet and she was privately still referred to as Lilibet her whole life by them. There is even a letter written by Mary's husband King George V in relation to their coronation ceremony in India, the Delhi Durbar, which was a half a year after their British coronation in which he was discussing the jewels Queen Mary had created for the occasion known as the Delhi Durbar parure where he said that the Delhi Durbar tiara was by far "May's best tiara"... She did take the official name Mary as her consort name at her coronation instead of Victoria but that's not unusual as several monarchs took an alternative ruling name including Queen Victoria whose real name was Alexandrina, Queen Victoria's son Albert aka Bertie who went by the ruling name Edward and even Mary's son Albert aka Bertie who took the ruling name of George
@@hippiebippie8870 Thank you, I stand corrected... Because of articles I have read all referred to her as "May", I erroneously assumed that that was her christened name...I do value accuracy, so again my thanks for your correction..!
@@hippiebippie8870 She went by Victoria Mary. Her husband told her she should choose one name or the other. He did not care which one, as long as it was not Victoria.
Queen Elizabeth had minimal general education and organised a tutor herself as Queen to learn and allow her to hold good conversations with the many people she would meet in her working life. Yes she was paid from taxes but she did work for it.
They said 'yes' to the Tzar and his family escaping to England. It was the government who enforced the resounding 'no', so, to say Mary had blood on her hands is both cruel and disgusting. Shame on you! I stopped watching at 12.08. I shan't be watching anything else you upload - and no doubt imply unsavoury remarks against people who have done nothing wrong - and I have removed myself from from your subscription list.
It's a good thing that Edward VIII abdicated. He and Wallis were Nazis and had been to Germany many times at thy behest of Hitler and company. It has also been shown in love letters that Wallis did *not* want to marry Edward because she was in love with her previous man. But she was unable to get away from Edward once he abdicated for her.
They all were in a sense. There are pictures of that family doing the salute together. It wasn’t probably until Germany invaded and Britain had been allies since victorias son made allies with many other European countries what was really happeneing. If we think back to ww1, with what is happening between Russia and the Ukraine, the entire idea of ww1 may of been prevented as neither country involved in the assignation were of any power house. But they were in opposite sides of allies. 1 aligned with Germany 1 aligned with Russia. Neither wanting to back off, Russia should have never called its army into say active service, Germany may of backed down as they didn’t want to go to war either than playing cat and mouse with Russia.
@@nanksyhanks it looks a lot like English to me. What is it precisely that you take issue with? Or are you here to protest the truth of the post itself? Or even, are to referring to the op or the next poster?
That claim he was a Nazi is propaganda sent to the media by the Palace itself and in particular the politicians of the day especially the Prime Minister Stanely Baldwin who hated Edward VIII. It was Winston Churchill who was great friends with EdwardVIII who supported him and begged him to remain King. Queen Mary wa as German as they come and as somebody before mentioned they were all the same, meaning supporters of Germany. There are photos of them giving the salute.
King George V and possibly also Queen Mary are believed to have foreseen the abdication before the birth of the then Princess Elizabeth. They also knew Princess Elizabeth would one day be Queen and this was when a younger brother would overtake an older sister in the line to the throne.
Why push the innuendo? Mary wasn’t a kleptomaniac, and she didn’t buy, appropriate or steal things because she was addicted to nice or shiny things. Almost every legitimate source (which I would not consider Downton Abbey to be) agrees that Queen Mary was obsessed with recovering royal possessions that were (to her way of thinking) too freely given, sold or stolen by her predecessors. She used to track down items that used to belong to the Royal family, and at times rather ruthlessly endeavor to repatriate them, so to speak.
Mary visited antique shops but did not pay the bills. Royal Aids used to return items they found to the owners apologising for the "misunderstanding". It is well documented that people whom she visited took to hiding anything that they thought she would take a fancy to. The evidence is there that Mary stole items. Either we accept that she was a kleptomaniac or that she was a knowing thief. My opinion is that she was a kleptomaniac and should be pitied. I once knew a kleptomaniac, and most of the time, she had no idea it was happening.
I have been to London many times abnd it seems to be that when she came to visit people hid the things that she might like. Because of her habit of taking them. People dared not accuse her publicly, but it seemed to be common knowlege.
In her will she left the items to the Royal Collection so they would stay intact for future generations. Look how Princess Margaret # children auctioned off her belongings including the tiara she wore at her wedding.
You will doubtless offer to proofread her next text. That was the type of error that one easily overlooks in the fever of writing and needs an editor to catch.
George V's brother was NEVER referred to as "Prince Albert": while Queen Victoria was alive that usage was reserved for her late husband, the Prince Consort. Edward VII's oldest son was always referred to as Albert Victor. To say that Mary had "blood on her hands" is scandalous, untrue and utterly vile - you should be ashamed of yourself. And the decision whether or not to grant asylum to the Imperial family didn't rest with the royals alone, but also included the Prime Minister, Lloyd George. And Mary paid over-the-odds for the Grand Duchess's emeralds because she knew the Russians desperately needed money. AND STOP QUOTING DOWNTON ABBEY which is FICTION. Queen Mary did NOT insist on Elizabeth and Margaret getting a "rounded education" - in fact it would have been a good thing if she had, but the two girls had NO formal education at all: they were taught French by a governess and Elizabeth had lessons in constitutional history from the Provost of Eton.
This is rather a negative portrayal of the woman who basically held the RF together during the first half of the 20th century. She was a strong magnificent woman.
@@beauteoussounds1156 Nothing to do with Queen Mary. They were responsible for their own demise. If nothing else, they could have sent those children to safety but chose not to.
I think Queen Mary was a pretty woman and aged very well …she was very attractive older woman. She didn’t have a say about the Tsar & his family….the King and Prime minister, parliament would have the say not the queen beside a King . The duke of windsor was a spoiled, entitled half wit just like prince harry is today ….so sad that Queen Elizabeth II had to see two royal men act like morons of divorced , narcissistic women . It had to break her heart that her grandson turned into her late uncle’s clone .
It often seems these women of importance had cruel and heartless sons. For example Mary Todd Lincoln (President Lincoln's widow) was confined to a Lunatic Asylum (the term back then), by her son. He was angry because she was a frequent clothing shopper. She secured that pension for herself from the government. Her other relatives were able to free her, but she died without a will and he got her money and all her worldly possessions.
Prince John was not hidden away and only left the family in 1916 when WW I was keeping both parents very busy. He was mentioned in George Vi official coronation programme..
He was though. It was actually mentioned for a long time many people did not know of the boys life at all, many people knew of her having 5 children, not 6 for a long time. His name is also from what i've read, forbidden to be named due to him having eplipsy. Her eldest son didn't care in the least about his death, due to he was like 10 years older than him. I still think he was hidden awy, as he was hidden from the real world, and not around for royal events due to his condition. It's similar to the russian royal family where they "hid" the condition from the public in fear of them kinda not accepting their heir. Would it be their downfall? Unknown..
By e wasn’t hidden away. At the time his existence was known about. Where is the David didn’t care about his brother? Would not shock me, he came off as a emotionless void
I agree. Prince John was kept with the family as long as his behavior could be managed. When he became too unruly, then he was sent to live in the country with his Nanny as well as a staff. He did not live in a hovel in isolation either. He lived in Wood Farm (the same place where Prince Philip retired in 2017) in the Sandringham Estate where his grandmother Queen Alexandra visited him and where he had a garden which he kept himself. Queen Mary made regular visits to him and made sure he had little friends, children of the estate tenants to play with, one girl in particular, Winifred Thomas. They also brought him to the big house for holidays so he could be with his siblings. We have to put ourselves in the context of 1905-1919 when people with his condition were pretty much locked away in an institution. Medicine didn't know what to make of his illness, thought to be learning disabilities and epilepsy (grand mal), so they did the best they could. Prince John had the best life he could live at the time that he lived. I have seen photos of cards he wrote to his mother which she had kept with her all her life. Prince John's funeral was attended not only by his family but by everyone in the estate. To think that Queen Mary was cruel and judge her heartless because she separated him from public life is not correct.
A lot of people kept disabled children out of sight because possible marriage partners for their other children would be warned off on account of the "bad blood" in the family.
She would have been Queen anyway because Edward VIII did not have children. Or, legitimate children. Queen Elizabeth's father died many years before Edward VIII, so he would not have been King. Upon Edward's death the throne would have passed to Elizabeth at that time.
I think Elizabeth would have been queen even if he hadn’t abdicated. Walls was not able to have kids, neither was he. Elizabeth would have been next in line after her father. If her father had outlived Edward VIII. He was her favorite uncle and she was his favorite niece. The turmoil after he quit changed things but the fact she visited him when he was dying was more personal than official.
Elizabeth II did not have a well-rounded education. Her education consisted of a governess, and the Head Master of Eton College teaching her constitutional politics.
Although 'home schooled' as we would say in this age the late Queen was very intelligent & bright - she caught on very quickly - & did pretty well eve if you do consider she 'did not have a well-rounded education'
She made sure Elizabeth and Margaret had a well-rounded education? Maybe, but later Elizabeth was angry with her mother that her education was limited to lessons from governesses and later some university professors. She should have had a much broader education to be better able to run a world-wide empire.
When Queen Mary was to visit Lord Kindesley (sp?) he asked my father to put several items into storage for the duration of the visit …such was her reputation for taking anything she fancied.
Mary was never " Queen of England" as the video states. There has not been a King or Queen of England since the Act of Union in 1707. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_Union_1707
I believe, I just figured out why they didn’t consider her beautiful. She was 180 cm or 5 feet 11 inches tall. Much taller than women or even men of her time. Sad because she was very attractive
She did ‘take’. If she came to your home and said she thought that that chair would look good at Windsor Castle your chair would end up in Windsor. After all who could turn down donating some thing to Her Majesty.
@@bonniecarruth8429 She never stole anything, which is what you insinuate. She was known to admire excessively to the point where it was felt an object had to be "donated" to her but that is not stealing!
One of the biggest hurdles in Mary finding a husband was probably the fact that her father was the product of a morganatic marriage and a mere Serene Higness. I have read that Prince Albert Victor called out for Princess Helene of Orleans on his deathbed. He had made no secret that he wished to marry her, but the fact that Helene was Catholic ultimately ended their hopes. Marie of Edinburgh was George's first cousin, and they were very fond of each other, but Marie's mother, a Grand Duchess of Russia, hated Britian and did not want her daughter to marry into her husband's family.
@@Roz-y2d Among other things, Marie had been a Russian Grand Duchess (and Imperial Highness) and she hated having her sister-in-law Alix (the Princess of Wales- later the Queen Consort Alexandra) take precedent over her- especially since Alix had been a Danish princess! Oh, and Marie got into a hissing contest with her mother-in-law Victoria not just over her own rank but also such things as Marie ordering a roaring fire to be lit in her guest room while she was staying at Balmoral Castle which spurred Victoria (the castle owner) to order the fire to be doused with water! Marie's poor husband Alfred, the Duke of Edinburgh never heard the end of it from either his wife or mother-in-law. Of course, Marie wound up having a tragic end. Alfred became the Duke of Saxe-Coburg Gotha but died early (as did their only son) so Marie wound up stuck in Coburg AND she lived through WWI and the Russian Revolution so she witnessed the slaughter of her extended family as well as her fortunes getting drastically reversed so she died in a Swiss hotel in 1920.
@user-fq8rs7rz3i She also hated the food, the weather, the fact that the British court was nowhere near as grand as the Imperial Russian court. Her animosity with Queen Victoria did seem to be the main reason that Grand Duchess Maria Alexandrovna did not want her daughter Marie of Edinburgh to marry her cousin, the future George V.
She did not overpay in fact she delayed payment on a string of pearls until soled the market crashed . Also 1928 when dowager Empress Marie died in Copenhagen her entire jewel collection was ‘smuggled’ out of Denmark in a British diplomatic bag and sent directly to Buckingham palace Her daughters Xenia and Olga had inherited the jewels and Olga stated that this took place without her knowledge of consent Mary chose all the pieces she wanted and Xenia sold them because of all the Romanovs she alone with her children were allowed to live in Britain in a grace and favour house provided by the king Olga never forgave her sister for doing that deal behind her back but I imagine Xenia had little choice if she wanted a roof over her and her children’s heads
No one can take this stuff seriously if you get basic facts wrong. Her son was edward v111 not edward v11. Fact checking your contact before publishing is pretty basic and essential.
If you are going to be pedantic then the correct way to write a number in latin numerals is with a capital letter. I.E. Edward VIII and Edward VII. Also you MUST use a capital letter for names. I cannot take stuff seriously from somebody with such a bad knowledge of written English who dares to criticise another for getting a fact wrong.
There's a lot more wrong with this video than ending with a "Nazi-sympathizer playboy" quote. Actually, the quote is primary source evidence contending Mary failed as a parent. ie, it's highly relevant to the topic of the video. David Lloyd George was enamored with "the economic miracle" taking place in 1930's Germany. He was also a shameless womanizer. The guy was, by any measure, a total scumbag in his treatment of women. And yet, on all topics aside from those having to do with Nazism, citing DLG isn't considered bad taste. And, frankly, from all I've read about Queen Mary, he summed her up pretty well. He didn't assassinate her character, he described it. Even by the standards of 100+ yrs ago and making allowance for royals detachment from raising their kids, she left a lot to be desired.
Being Irish in the U.K. myself, I’d known something about how Queen Mary came to the throne, having married the next eldest son by Queen Victoria, endured WW1 with her husband as Queen Consort, lived through the abdication crisis of 1936 by her eldest son after her husband died, seeing her second eldest son and his wife becoming king before WW2 and her quickly dying soon after her son died as king in 1952, yet dutiful to the last, not wanting her funeral arrangements to disrupt the coronation of her grand-daughter Queen Elizabeth II in 1953
The 1st time I saw clips of Mary of Tech was in KC3's christining. I used to wonder why she never smiled. Then I thought it was because she was a Victorian, then I realized she had a very hard life from the start.
Edward VII was not Queen Mary’s son ! She was married to Edward VII’s son, George V. Her sons were Edward VIII ( who abdicated 1936 ) followed by his younger brother Bertie - George VI
Queen Mary in my opinion, was a beautiful looking girl , Princess and Queen. I believe her beauty can be seen in all her children and Grandchildren. Stunning beauty that our Late Queen and Late Princess Margaret inherited from Queen Mary, whom they both resembled. The Queens father King George V! also inherited good looks from his Mother, Queen Mary. John (Australia)
Also her first fiancee died from typhoid not the influenza. The picture of the sick from influenza was in 1920s during the Spanish flue. Get it straight kid .
There was an influenza pandemic around the late 1880s to early 1890s which was referred to as "Russian flu" or "Asiatic flu". That was what Albert Victor had and it turned to pneumonia which was what killed him.
A rather simple error in sevenths and eighths is hardly good reason to gleefully bully the presenter of this interesting short documentary. I learned something from it. Admittedly, I’m not an avid observer of the royals but I should think that those of you who are and know so much about such matters should also know about good manners. There are much nicer ways to bring an error to the attention of those who have erred.
Then the presenter should've placed a disclaimer, "For entertainment purposes only". What if a high school student were using this as reference material or maybe studying for a test? Speaking for myself, my history teachers weren't very forgiving when getting the facts wrong. Imagine the embarrassment and disappointment when they get the grade.
@@ericf7063 You should know by now.... the internet is a free-for-all not a library of reference. We have libraries where the books are classed as.... fiction, nonfiction , history..... ect... i've hesrd alot of fiction that I thought was history on the "come and get it" internet....it's a joke, 'cause it's not regulated. Wait till you accidentally see the porn. School report ?? I don't think so.......
Absolutely agree. Too many times should think before opening their mouths As it should be said more often, To error is human And your gift is to be humble in your errors that you may learn from your errors
In my humble and sinful opinion, all of the ladies in the 19th century were very, very beautiful, and it is too bad that I did not live when they lived
The footage supposedly of Prince Albert Victor's funeral is actually not. The cortège passes by the cenotaph, which didn't even exist then. Not was it possible to make a movie in 1892. The same applies to the footage of their wedding. And some image choices are unfortunate. A picture of the younger George and Mary around the part about his death? Makes no sense. And the title is clickbait.
It's probably a good thing that Edward VIII abdicated. He was awfully chummy with Adolf Hitler, who might have actually won the war with him still on the throne.
Hitler offered him the chance to 're-take the throne when Germany had bombed Britain into submission' when David & Wallis were living in Portugal. David was very surprised when records were found just after the war of all phone calls, letters, telegrams, meetings between David, Wallis & various high level Nazis & supporters. & people are sorry David & Wallis weren't 'allowed' to settle back in the UK - it was his own decision - could it possibly have been some vague moment of shame on his part?
She looked German because she was German. Where do you think Teck is? It a Principality in Germany. du. She was NOT a British princess. Where do you get this information. You did nothing to make this correct. Sad you can do so little.
She was notorious for walking into shops and jewellers and taking items without paying for them, it's said that in Windsor, shopkeepers would hurriedly shut up their shops when she went into the town
Her husband George v did in fact have extra marital relationships and is believed to have fathered at least one child , To Hilda Masters who was the then princess May’s ‘blackberry picking’ best friend , George v would meet her as a married woman at Bognor and she had a son to the king , one Anthony Blunt who hovered around the Royal family all his life , he was also knighted and as Sir Anthony Blunt , the art historian and was in charge of the Queens Pictures , it was discovered he was a spy for the soviets along with Phil by burgess and McLean , he lost his knighthood but escaped punishment as the bastard son of the king he was by blood Queen Elizabeth 11 uncle so they did not touch him , the others fled for their lives and ended up living in the Soviet Union
Actually, they originally gave permission for the Romanovs to escape to England but then the Romanov girls, all 4 of them (not sure about Alexei) got measles and could not travel. By the time they recovered, the British royals had changed their minds because it was felt that the English public would not like the Empress Alexandra in their country since she was German (although so was the British royal family, to be honest). That spelled doom for the Romanovs.
If Queen Mary looked “German” then the whole current (and recently Queen Elizabeth II) surely still looks “German”. I’m amazed at how much Queen Elizabeth and Princess Anne looked/looks like Queen Mary. I also think she was a very attractive woman, especially in her later years. She has a fabulous figure, which she probably also passed on to the women down the line. Some inaccuracies but otherwise an interesting video.
Mary had the last laugh with respect to the people who called her ugly. I think she looked fine. Most of the British queens were never known for their beauty, but they were known for more important attributes. If Kate Middleton becomes queen, she will be known for both.
Also a cold and cruel way to end a biography. I think it would have been more conclude with a reminder of the good she did with her life. However, I appreciate the history lesson on an era we were not taught about in our Canadian school.
Having read all the comments, I have only one to make. We should never judge the decisions that others make. Even knowing “historical” facts doesn’t mean we know what is in anyone’s heart. I think that is the least we can and should do. I’ve been in the shoes of both sides.❤
My friend’s disabled daughter died and her Mom also confessed it was a relief. She wasn’t suffering, no one could hurt her, she didn’t have to worry what would happen to her child her after she and her husband passed away and she believed that her girl was now safe with her grandparents in heaven. There was nothing abnormal in Mary’s feelings. It didn’t mean she didn’t grieve and feel terrible guilt because she couldn’t save her boy. Placing him away from prying eyes of the Court and public was not cruel.
It was said by her son Edward that his mother was actually embarrassed and ashamed of her son John. How much of what he said is true, we will never know. One thing is certain. Edward was bitterly angry with his mother over this and for many other slights he felt from her, especially because she didn’t like his wife at all.
@dianeruiz0721 you are correct! Princess Margaret said the same about Queen Mary! Others have said she was embarrassed by her son! Patricia Gambino Harrington
Agreed.
Loosing 3 children & “never getting to say goodbye” is 💔. I lost one child; can’t even fathom getting through that 3 times.
I lost one last year, terrible wasn't it?
Still is awful.
@@brogsbunny sorry for your loss! It’s been 10 years & I still have days. Of course her daughter looks almost exactly like her, which still startles me at times. I hope you’re finding peace.
i’m so sorry for your loss 💔. i wish you peace.😊
I have lost three children. One at 11weeks old another at 25 years and another at 34 years All unexpected. Good job we don't know the future. You learn to live with it but never lose that ache or pain. You just get used to it.
Unless you have lived with someone who has refractory epilepsy (can’t be controlled with drugs), don’t judge anyone who says the end is a relief. Dealing with someone seizuring daily, weekly, monthly, several times a day even, is emotionally and physically draining. It’s almost as traumatic for the carer as for the sufferer 😢
This. Not to mention there's a lot of deaths that are reliefs for loved ones who have watched their seeing dying loved one suffer.
I was really annoyed she said "shocking response".
It's really not shocking sis.... 🙄
This is an inaccurate documentary. The monarch has to abide by the advice of the cabinet and it was the latter that refused the Russian royal family asylum. The real scandal was the effective murder of George V. There was nothing wrong with Queen Mary other than a slavish attention to duty which made her cold and unfeeling in public. She was possibly the most educated member of the royal family - from her years living in Florence
And yet the eldest couldn’t have cared less for him. If anything he was happy as he didn’t know him or of cared less about him being so much older than him.
I deal with children with mental challenge who are sometimes prone to epileptic seizures. It is living hell for their parents especially their mothers. Have been around when 16 of them died prematurely. Their mothers the primary caregiver go through days of grief and sometimes self blame. Finally when acceptance sets in it is a great relief, of a duty well done and then only the mothers find peace. Do not underestimate their grief. --Debashis Ray
The Victorian - Edwardian world was ashamed of epilepsy, downs syndrome, hemophilia, mental illness, physical disability (think Helen Keller) not the least because of the rising now discredited Eugenics movement. So they hid their loved ones to reduce public embarrassment & judgement of the monarchy. As society changed & accepted & stabilized post WW2 the true stories could come out. We should be grateful the world has improved in this respect.
If you're going to show this stuff then get your facts straight. Edward VII was her father in law, Edward VIII was her abdicating son.
It’s always like this, but I keep watching.🤣
I was just going to point this out. So, DITTO!
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@@tilsit8875 OOF!! So hurtful . Did you compose the screenplay?
I get cross when people don’t get their facts straight.
Her son who abdicated was Edward VIII, dear. Edward VII died in 1910
Thanks for pointing that out. I saw it too.
Beat me to it.!
😊 Good fact check, I noted the mistake too and that's why I opened the link!!!!
@@sowitandhopeitgrows Me, too!
Came to say just that.
Don’t you mean the Tecks had to flee from their creditors, not their debtors? Get it right.
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Actually, Queen Elisabeth had the same face structure as her grandmother, Queen Mary…😊😊😊😊
Look at Lady Louise,a strong genetic gene.
Is that why Charles and Anne are so homely?
I agree. I see a fairly strong resemblance to Queen Elizabeth.
I was seeing King Charles in Queen Mary facial look
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I just read a biography of King George V, Mary's husband, and the most interesting thing I learned was that the king predicted that his son Edward would abdicate, although he thought it would be because his son was not fit to be king and didn't actually want to reign.
Cair l24 this is true my grandmother told me this when l was a kid, the King was obsessed with the fact that Edward was the heir to the throne because he was without responsabilty and intelligence and he actually hated the idea to be the future King of the British Empire and Wallis (divorced)was a good excuse to abdicate
I believe what he said was that he'd "ruin himself." Abdication wasn't specifically mentioned, nor was any particular variety of ruination.
Which turned out to be right as well strangely enough!
‘Didn’t want to be and not fit to be’ - sounds like he knew his son.
Playing the Playboy Prince was fun, but Kingship is like work.
Oh dear, bad day hun? Wrong King & wrong 'facts'. Creditors are the people who lend money, not debtors. The Tecks wouldn't be v bright, if, as you said they were to go "fleeing from their debtors", because your debtors are in debt to you, they owe you money! Your creditors (like the bank who owns your mortgage or car loan) have extended credit to you - So you now have their credit funds, YOU are THEIR debtor &the debt must be repaid at some point. The Teck's Debtors (people like renters of Teck properties, tenant farmers & other businesses they had a financial interest in) would/should have been trying to pay the Tecks what was owed to them. Fire your facts guy, he's not on task.
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If only this were the only howler. I only kept watching as one does with motor accidents.
Please do not report any more Royal stories until you understand Royalty the obligations and responsibilities of the position and the difficulties of their lives. To say Queen Mary had blood on her hands is slander.
shocking and wicked misinformation
Agreed. Americans should be banned from talking about anything to do with European history or culture. They never get it right. And what is with the bizarre pronunciation of standard words?
@MaryScott-ue7ih as the claim was made in writing it cannot be slander. Slander is committed when a person states something is true knowing in fact it is not!
As it was written it might be Libellous - but here (as also applies to slander) under the laws of the UK you can print what you like, say what you like about a deceased person and you commit no crime because the person is dead.
Bear in mind that this is from America where stupidity is celebrated. I know, having the misfortune to live here (but working and saving to get out).
Difficulties of their lives? Sycophantic trash.
Pampered spongers, there by accident The icons of self regarding snobs. A symbol of everything rotten in this self regarding country. Ugh!
If only Britain had got rid of its monarchy like others in Europe. A sentimentalised prop to privilege and selfishness.
Edward VIII was Queen Mary’s son who abdicated. Her father in law was Edward VII.
Edward VII was her father-in-law. Edward VIII was her son. If you can't even get that correct I'm not wasting my time watching this.
@michaeldianewynne. Nit- picking isn’t clever. It’s too easy.
Nothing scandalous about her. You do her a great disservice.
My mother's godmother was in Queen Mary's household and had nothing but good things to say about her and her devotion to duty.
Agreed
So being a kleptomaniac wasn't a scandal?
Not if your Royal I guess.
@@leelohaskin7941 Wasn't that England's Queen Alexandra?
Considering this channel cannot fact check enough to know the difference between Edward VII (Queen Mary’s father-in-law) and her abdicating son, Edward VIII, I wouldn’t put much weight to any of the other content. The channel name, “Factinate,” is especially ironic considering the shoddy fact checking.
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Please, Americans, do not do British history podcasts unless you properly research it. The Crown, Downton Abbey and Wikipaedia does not count as accurate research.
Wikipedia is fine.
@@VanillaMacaron551no it's not as per this program, you should hit a library and go through historical texts not the internet.
Americans also can't grasp there is no such title of King or Queen of England, since England is not a kingdom. I know a lot of people use it because it's shorter than King or Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Brittan and Norther Ireland, but that doesn't make it correct.
True, some of we US "Americans" DO fit into your impression of us. Fortunately, not all of us are gormless.
Just an FYI, "Factinate" is based in Toronto, Canada, a Commonwealth Realm.
I agree "The Crown" was awful and Downton Abbey, well, it was entertaining.
@@WolfMacKenzieUnlike his mother, Charles was not crowned "King of Great Britain and Ireland, Canada, and her dominions across the seas."
As a child my godmother took me to Windsor to see the carpet the Queen had embroidered. I still have the souvenir book and it inspited me to take up needlework and tapestry.
She embroidered for charity raffles and was known to be a "fine needlewoman."
Mary had absolutely nothing to do with the decision not to bring the Tsar and his family to Engliand, she didn't have that power so therefore had no blood on her hands, where you came up with that kind ofsensational comment is beyond me.
Probably The Crown
That decision was made by the government according to wha t I have read.
Her husband wanted to save them, they were 1st cousins. I believe overall she may of played a role (who knows) in it. Overall between the King and parliament they were scared of what was happening in Germany happening in England. She may of had no power, but even a wife can hold a lot of power in persuading her husband. Just like Albert did a lot of persuading on Victoria. Nobody will ever know. Some historians think Mary told the doctors to inject a lethal dose of something so he’d die and be out of pain. Many were heavy smokers like their fathers before them and paid the price for it.
@@wuverrabbit Albert persuaded Victoria, nor Alfred.
@@mizaucontraire9224 your contradicting yourself. It was Prince Albert weighed heavily into changing victorias way. Like saving money than her “that’s how it’s always been” ways. He didn’t feel the need of a servant doing tasks they were more than capable of doing like starting a fire in the fire place. She paid it no attention as that’s how it’s always been.
Queen Elizabeth looked so much like her grandmother when young and old.
Not in my opinion
I think so too
No she didnot! There is so much rubbish spouted on here! Princess Anne has much more of a look of old Queen Mary.
@@lizlyon2902there is a picture of our late Queen taken when she was three years old, her features are uncannily like those if her grandmother, who in her late years was a very regal imposing figure, with beautiful skin.
One serious flaw in this otherwise absorbing narrative is that "Queen Mary, was born, christened and known as " Princess MAY of Teck" until her marriage to then then "Prince George", only changing her name to the more dignified "Mary" after the coronation, as I understand..
One of my favourite stories concerning the Dowager Queen although indirectly, took place in the 1930's when the directors of the "Cunard Steamship Line" approached King George for permission to name their new, massive, passenger liner " Victoria". They began their audience by saying, "Your Majesty, it is our most earnest desire to name our new liner after England's greatest Queen..". But before they could actually reveal the chosen name,
His Majesty promptly interjected saying, " Thank You, I am sure that my wife will be delighted to have your new ship named after her...!". It was a "fait accompli" and the directors hurriedly retreated to make the necessary changes... Thus began the illustrious career of probably the most famous Ocean "Queen " of all...
I'd never heard that story! Thank you!
I am sorry but it is your statement that is actually flawed, her real name that she was born and christened with is Victoria Mary Augusta Louise Olga Pauline Claudine Agnes. Everyone outside of close family and friends always referred to her as Mary but close friends and family called her by her nickname May because she was born in the month of May and as a way to differentiate between her and her mother Mary Adelaide. May was not her legal name at any point in time just a nickname, which she was still called by those closest to her even after her coronation, like how those closest to Queen Elizabeth gave her the nickname Lilibet and she was privately still referred to as Lilibet her whole life by them. There is even a letter written by Mary's husband King George V in relation to their coronation ceremony in India, the Delhi Durbar, which was a half a year after their British coronation in which he was discussing the jewels Queen Mary had created for the occasion known as the Delhi Durbar parure where he said that the Delhi Durbar tiara was by far "May's best tiara"... She did take the official name Mary as her consort name at her coronation instead of Victoria but that's not unusual as several monarchs took an alternative ruling name including Queen Victoria whose real name was Alexandrina, Queen Victoria's son Albert aka Bertie who went by the ruling name Edward and even Mary's son Albert aka Bertie who took the ruling name of George
You two should collaborate on a video which is more accurate and interesting than this one. I'd watch you both get pedantic with niche facts.
@@hippiebippie8870 Thank you, I stand corrected... Because of articles I have read all referred to her as "May", I erroneously assumed that that was her christened name...I do value accuracy, so again my thanks for your correction..!
@@hippiebippie8870 She went by Victoria Mary. Her husband told her she should choose one name or the other. He did not care which one, as long as it was not Victoria.
It was Queen Mary that convinced the Queen mother and King George to educate Queen Elizabeth and Margaret.
It was was not! Queen Mary came from a completely different generation. She had no say whatsoever.
Yer they neglected Princess Margaret's education & focused on Princess Elizabeth's education.
In fairness Princess Elizabeth didnt get much ed 1:07 ucation, she never went to school just a brood of tutors@@lynnnad5268
@@lynnnad5268rightfully so, Elizabeth was to be queen not Margaret.
Queen Elizabeth had minimal general education and organised a tutor herself as Queen to learn and allow her to hold good conversations with the many people she would meet in her working life. Yes she was paid from taxes but she did work for it.
Everyone dreams to be a princess but I wouldn’t dare want to be one now after all these videos
Not sure that I would have been keen even before hi-tech (no pun intended)
I'm pretty sure Edward VII's mother was Queen Victoria.
You have a right to be pretty sure ... because you are correct!
Poți baga mana-n foc ,liniștit!!!!!!
This is absolutely terribly researched and presented in every way. Don't waste time on this if you want to learn about Queen Mary.
For starters - he was Edward VIII not VII! 1:32
They said 'yes' to the Tzar and his family escaping to England. It was the government who enforced the resounding 'no', so, to say Mary had blood on her hands is both cruel and disgusting. Shame on you! I stopped watching at 12.08. I shan't be watching anything else you upload - and no doubt imply unsavoury remarks against people who have done nothing wrong - and I have removed myself from from your subscription list.
don't let the door hit you in the ..... on your way out
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Wow. How do you really feel?
The kleptomania rumors may be “interesting to think about”, but without evidence you are slandering the dead.
The king was aware of the matter and went along with the recommendation of the government.
There's a definite resemblance between her and Queen Elizabeth II. I also see a resemblance to the tragic Romanov sisters.
It's a good thing that Edward VIII abdicated. He and Wallis were Nazis and had been to Germany many times at thy behest of Hitler and company. It has also been shown in love letters that Wallis did *not* want to marry Edward because she was in love with her previous man. But she was unable to get away from Edward once he abdicated for her.
And she treated him like the wuss he really was. Being king would have ruined his fun.
They all were in a sense. There are pictures of that family doing the salute together. It wasn’t probably until Germany invaded and Britain had been allies since victorias son made allies with many other European countries what was really happeneing. If we think back to ww1, with what is happening between Russia and the Ukraine, the entire idea of ww1 may of been prevented as neither country involved in the assignation were of any power house. But they were in opposite sides of allies. 1 aligned with Germany 1 aligned with Russia. Neither wanting to back off, Russia should have never called its army into say active service, Germany may of backed down as they didn’t want to go to war either than playing cat and mouse with Russia.
Your post is undecipherable. I hope English is not your native language.
@@nanksyhanks it looks a lot like English to me. What is it precisely that you take issue with? Or are you here to protest the truth of the post itself? Or even, are to referring to the op or the next poster?
That claim he was a Nazi is propaganda sent to the media by the Palace itself and in particular the politicians of the day especially the Prime Minister Stanely Baldwin who hated Edward VIII. It was Winston Churchill who was great friends with EdwardVIII who supported him and begged him to remain King. Queen Mary wa as German as they come and as somebody before mentioned they were all the same, meaning supporters of Germany. There are photos of them giving the salute.
I was amazed at how much our beloved queen Elizabeth 2nd looked like her grandmother.
Agreed .
I think Prince Harry looks a lot like Queen Mary. Pity he doesn't share her sense of duty.
I hate the death of Prince George in a plane crash was omitted. only mentioned she had buried 3 children, but never him by name.
Wasn't he a nazi sympathiser
How anyone would think marrying into a royal family is a fairy tale is beyond me.. It's all business.
And still is!
Patriotic
Edward Vii abdicated ? I didn't hear that one before 😂
That was Edward v111
Edward the Seventh did not abdicate, it was Edward the Eighth
King George V and possibly also Queen Mary are believed to have foreseen the abdication before the birth of the then Princess Elizabeth. They also knew Princess Elizabeth would one day be Queen and this was when a younger brother would overtake an older sister in the line to the throne.
Edward VII was Queen Mary of Teck's father-in-law. Her eldest son Edward VIII (afterwards the Duke of Windsor) is the one who abdicated.
Why push the innuendo? Mary wasn’t a kleptomaniac, and she didn’t buy, appropriate or steal things because she was addicted to nice or shiny things. Almost every legitimate source (which I would not consider Downton Abbey to be) agrees that Queen Mary was obsessed with recovering royal possessions that were (to her way of thinking) too freely given, sold or stolen by her predecessors. She used to track down items that used to belong to the Royal family, and at times rather ruthlessly endeavor to repatriate them, so to speak.
She stole them
Mary visited antique shops but did not pay the bills. Royal Aids used to return items they found to the owners apologising for the "misunderstanding". It is well documented that people whom she visited took to hiding anything that they thought she would take a fancy to.
The evidence is there that Mary stole items. Either we accept that she was a kleptomaniac or that she was a knowing thief. My opinion is that she was a kleptomaniac and should be pitied. I once knew a kleptomaniac, and most of the time, she had no idea it was happening.
I have been to London many times abnd it seems to be that when she came to visit people hid the things that she might like. Because of her habit of taking them. People dared not accuse her publicly, but it seemed to be common knowlege.
In her will she left the items to the Royal Collection so they would stay intact for future generations. Look how Princess Margaret # children auctioned off her belongings including the tiara she wore at her wedding.
@@madelineevans128 They had to pay death duties when she died.
Please get your facts right before you go spouting them.
You will doubtless offer to proofread her next text. That was the type of error that one easily overlooks in the fever of writing and needs an editor to catch.
George V's brother was NEVER referred to as "Prince Albert": while Queen Victoria was alive that usage was reserved for her late husband, the Prince Consort. Edward VII's oldest son was always referred to as Albert Victor.
To say that Mary had "blood on her hands" is scandalous, untrue and utterly vile - you should be ashamed of yourself. And the decision whether or not to grant asylum to the Imperial family didn't rest with the royals alone, but also included the Prime Minister, Lloyd George. And Mary paid over-the-odds for the Grand Duchess's emeralds because she knew the Russians desperately needed money. AND STOP QUOTING DOWNTON ABBEY which is FICTION.
Queen Mary did NOT insist on Elizabeth and Margaret getting a "rounded education" - in fact it would have been a good thing if she had, but the two girls had NO formal education at all: they were taught French by a governess and Elizabeth had lessons in constitutional history from the Provost of Eton.
Or known as ‘ Eddy’ amongst those in the family
This is rather a negative portrayal of the woman who basically held the RF together during the first half of the 20th century. She was a strong magnificent woman.
Thank you for speaking up for her. There are too many today who make up lurid stories for cheap entertainment.
Doubt the Romanovs would share that view
@@beauteoussounds1156 Nothing to do with Queen Mary. They were responsible for their own demise. If nothing else, they could have sent those children to safety but chose not to.
For a channel called "Factinate' they do a pretty good job of getting facts wrong!
But it's so 'fascinating' how they manage to do it constantly!
I noticed that Queen Elizabeth II and her granddaughter Charlotte favor Mary of Teck .
Lady Louise Edinburgh looks a lot like Queen Mary in her younger years.
She does indeed. However Charlotte is the late Queen's great granddaughter, not granddaughter.
Charlotte is the late Queens G.grandaughter, and No neither of them look like Queen Mary, old or young!
@@lizlyon2902I was baffled how incredibly similar the late Queen looked to her grandmother, Queen Mary.
its all in the eyes of the beholder
I think Queen Mary was a pretty woman and aged very well …she was very attractive older woman.
She didn’t have a say about the Tsar & his family….the King and Prime minister, parliament would have the say not the queen beside a King .
The duke of windsor was a spoiled, entitled half wit just like prince harry is today ….so sad that Queen Elizabeth II had to see two royal men act like morons of divorced , narcissistic women . It had to break her heart that her grandson turned into her late uncle’s clone .
It often seems these women of importance had cruel and heartless sons. For example Mary Todd Lincoln (President Lincoln's widow) was confined to a Lunatic Asylum (the term back then), by her son. He was angry because she was a frequent clothing shopper. She secured that pension for herself from the government. Her other relatives were able to free her, but she died without a will and he got her money and all her worldly possessions.
I think he may have disliked her because she was bought off to influence her weak husband.
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Weak Husband 😮
What?? 😊❤
So…two men?
@@Doobiepuu hmm details???
Prince John was not hidden away and only left the family in 1916 when WW I was keeping both parents very busy. He was mentioned in George Vi official coronation programme..
He was though. It was actually mentioned for a long time many people did not know of the boys life at all, many people knew of her having 5 children, not 6 for a long time. His name is also from what i've read, forbidden to be named due to him having eplipsy. Her eldest son didn't care in the least about his death, due to he was like 10 years older than him. I still think he was hidden awy, as he was hidden from the real world, and not around for royal events due to his condition. It's similar to the russian royal family where they "hid" the condition from the public in fear of them kinda not accepting their heir. Would it be their downfall? Unknown..
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By e wasn’t hidden away. At the time his existence was known about. Where is the David didn’t care about his brother?
Would not shock me, he came off as a emotionless void
I agree. Prince John was kept with the family as long as his behavior could be managed. When he became too unruly, then he was sent to live in the country with his Nanny as well as a staff. He did not live in a hovel in isolation either. He lived in Wood Farm (the same place where Prince Philip retired in 2017) in the Sandringham Estate where his grandmother Queen Alexandra visited him and where he had a garden which he kept himself. Queen Mary made regular visits to him and made sure he had little friends, children of the estate tenants to play with, one girl in particular, Winifred Thomas. They also brought him to the big house for holidays so he could be with his siblings. We have to put ourselves in the context of 1905-1919 when people with his condition were pretty much locked away in an institution. Medicine didn't know what to make of his illness, thought to be learning disabilities and epilepsy (grand mal), so they did the best they could. Prince John had the best life he could live at the time that he lived. I have seen photos of cards he wrote to his mother which she had kept with her all her life. Prince John's funeral was attended not only by his family but by everyone in the estate. To think that Queen Mary was cruel and judge her heartless because she separated him from public life is not correct.
A lot of people kept disabled children out of sight because possible marriage partners for their other children would be warned off on account of the "bad blood" in the family.
IF Edward Viii had not abdicated we wouldn't have been graced with Her Majesty, Elizabeth the Great.
She would have been Queen anyway because Edward VIII did not have children. Or, legitimate children. Queen Elizabeth's father died many years before Edward VIII, so he would not have been King. Upon Edward's death the throne would have passed to Elizabeth at that time.
She would have become Queen in 1972 when he died.
If Edward VIII had not abdicated the UK would probably have German as it's every day language
I think Elizabeth would have been queen even if he hadn’t abdicated. Walls was not able to have kids, neither was he. Elizabeth would have been next in line after her father. If her father had outlived Edward VIII. He was her favorite uncle and she was his favorite niece. The turmoil after he quit changed things but the fact she visited him when he was dying was more personal than official.
I should have said,”even the fact that Edward died long after George VI, Elizabeth would still have been next in line.”
Elizabeth II did not have a well-rounded education. Her education consisted of a governess, and the Head Master of Eton College teaching her constitutional politics.
Yes but look at the credentials of the governess
Although 'home schooled' as we would say in this age the late Queen was very intelligent & bright - she caught on very quickly - & did pretty well eve if you do consider she 'did not have a well-rounded education'
She traveled the globe and met everybody of importance. Self educated.
She made sure Elizabeth and Margaret had a well-rounded education? Maybe, but later Elizabeth was angry with her mother that her education was limited to lessons from governesses and later some university professors. She should have had a much broader education to be better able to run a world-wide empire.
Get your facts straight!
When Queen Mary was to visit Lord Kindesley (sp?) he asked my father to put several items into storage for the duration of the visit …such was her reputation for taking anything she fancied.
Mary was never " Queen of England" as the video states. There has not been a King or Queen of England since the Act of Union in 1707. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_Union_1707
💯A lot of ignorance on the part of the producers of this video!
Edward VII never abdicated…. You’re confusing Victoria’s heir with Edward VIII
Boy they just let anybody do these documentaries don't they.
I believe, I just figured out why they didn’t consider her beautiful. She was 180 cm or 5 feet 11 inches tall. Much taller than women or even men of her time. Sad because she was very attractive
Correction: Edward VIII... Mistakes like that in the title keep me from watching videos. If the title isnt even right, what else is wrong?
off with her head....
She didn't steal she was queen please stop commenting on the royal family, I shudder to think where you get your info could it be from Montecito.
She did ‘take’. If she came to your home and said she thought that that chair would look good at Windsor Castle your chair would end up in Windsor. After all who could turn down donating some thing to Her Majesty.
I can't understand people who look up to the monarchy. They're all inbred socialites.
@@bonniecarruth8429 She never stole anything, which is what you insinuate. She was known to admire excessively to the point where it was felt an object had to be "donated" to her but that is not stealing!
One of the biggest hurdles in Mary finding a husband was probably the fact that her father was the product of a morganatic marriage and a mere Serene Higness. I have read that Prince Albert Victor called out for Princess Helene of Orleans on his deathbed. He had made no secret that he wished to marry her, but the fact that Helene was Catholic ultimately ended their hopes. Marie of Edinburgh was George's first cousin, and they were very fond of each other, but Marie's mother, a Grand Duchess of Russia, hated Britian and did not want her daughter to marry into her husband's family.
Why did the grand duchess hate Britain?
@@Roz-y2d Among other things, Marie had been a Russian Grand Duchess (and Imperial Highness) and she hated having her sister-in-law Alix (the Princess of Wales- later the Queen Consort Alexandra) take precedent over her- especially since Alix had been a Danish princess! Oh, and Marie got into a hissing contest with her mother-in-law Victoria not just over her own rank but also such things as Marie ordering a roaring fire to be lit in her guest room while she was staying at Balmoral Castle which spurred Victoria (the castle owner) to order the fire to be doused with water! Marie's poor husband Alfred, the Duke of Edinburgh never heard the end of it from either his wife or mother-in-law. Of course, Marie wound up having a tragic end. Alfred became the Duke of Saxe-Coburg Gotha but died early (as did their only son) so Marie wound up stuck in Coburg AND she lived through WWI and the Russian Revolution so she witnessed the slaughter of her extended family as well as her fortunes getting drastically reversed so she died in a Swiss hotel in 1920.
@user-fq8rs7rz3i She also hated the food, the weather, the fact that the British court was nowhere near as grand as the Imperial Russian court. Her animosity with Queen Victoria did seem to be the main reason that Grand Duchess Maria Alexandrovna did not want her daughter Marie of Edinburgh to marry her cousin, the future George V.
The Grand Duchess was also raised Orthodox Christian where marriage between first cousins is forbidden.
@@mimisor66 If I recall, she was fine with her daughter Victoria Melita marrying her first cousin Kirill Vladamirovich, though.
Was my most favorite Royal yes ! Elisabeth II(RIP).
They didn't just refuse his cousin. The czar refused to leave until it was too late.
I did not know that.
The hospital scene at 4:36 is of the 1918-1919 flu pandemic, not the one of the 1890's.
Mary not only did NOT drain the treasury on jewels; she spent HER OWN MONEY. And when she overpaid for Russian jewels, it was a form of CHARITY.
She did not overpay in fact she delayed payment on a string of pearls until soled the market crashed . Also 1928 when dowager Empress Marie died in Copenhagen her entire jewel collection was ‘smuggled’ out of Denmark in a British diplomatic bag and sent directly to Buckingham palace Her daughters Xenia and Olga had inherited the jewels and Olga stated that this took place without her knowledge of consent
Mary chose all the pieces she wanted and Xenia sold them because of all the Romanovs she alone with her children were allowed to live in Britain in a grace and favour house provided by the king Olga never forgave her sister for doing that deal behind her back but I imagine Xenia had little choice if she wanted a roof over her and her children’s heads
You get the facts wrong, repeatedly. You aren't cut out for this job.
Sooooo i think u will find Edward VIII the one who abdicated ok ?
No one can take this stuff seriously if you get basic facts wrong. Her son was edward v111 not edward v11. Fact checking your contact before publishing is pretty basic and essential.
If you are going to be pedantic then the correct way to write a number in latin numerals is with a capital letter. I.E. Edward VIII and Edward VII. Also you MUST use a capital letter for names. I cannot take stuff seriously from somebody with such a bad knowledge of written English who dares to criticise another for getting a fact wrong.
Mary & George DID love each other BEFORE they were married - letters prove it - but they were both still shy.
Thought it was very poor taste to end with a quote from the Nazi-sympathizing playboy assassinating his own mother's character.
Edward had issues.
@@truffles2721 you mean he was a cold selfish idiot?
There's a lot more wrong with this video than ending with a "Nazi-sympathizer playboy" quote. Actually, the quote is primary source evidence contending Mary failed as a parent. ie, it's highly relevant to the topic of the video.
David Lloyd George was enamored with "the economic miracle" taking place in 1930's Germany. He was also a shameless womanizer. The guy was, by any measure, a total scumbag in his treatment of women. And yet, on all topics aside from those having to do with Nazism, citing DLG isn't considered bad taste.
And, frankly, from all I've read about Queen Mary, he summed her up pretty well. He didn't assassinate her character, he described it. Even by the standards of 100+ yrs ago and making allowance for royals detachment from raising their kids, she left a lot to be desired.
Being Irish in the U.K. myself, I’d known something about how Queen Mary came to the throne, having married the next eldest son by Queen Victoria, endured WW1 with her husband as Queen Consort, lived through the abdication crisis of 1936 by her eldest son after her husband died, seeing her second eldest son and his wife becoming king before WW2 and her quickly dying soon after her son died as king in 1952, yet dutiful to the last, not wanting her funeral arrangements to disrupt the coronation of her grand-daughter Queen Elizabeth II in 1953
Her husband and her 1st fiance were grandsons not sons of Queen Victoria
I thought Mary was the mother of Edward VIII, not VII...
The 1st time I saw clips of Mary of Tech was in KC3's christining. I used to wonder why she never smiled. Then I thought it was because she was a Victorian, then I realized she had a very hard life from the start.
Mary of Tech. Predecessor of Bill Gates lol.
Edward VII was not Queen Mary’s son ! She was married to Edward VII’s son, George V. Her sons were Edward VIII ( who abdicated 1936 ) followed by his younger brother Bertie - George VI
Really interesting stuff!
Also never realized how tall queen Mary was 😮
Queen Mary in my opinion, was a beautiful looking girl , Princess and Queen. I believe her beauty can be seen in all her children and Grandchildren. Stunning beauty that our Late Queen and Late Princess Margaret inherited from Queen Mary, whom they both resembled. The Queens father King George V! also inherited good looks from his Mother, Queen Mary. John (Australia)
"Stunning" beauty? Really??? You need a new pair of glasses?! 🤣
Also her first fiancee died from typhoid not the influenza. The picture of the sick from influenza was in 1920s during the Spanish flue. Get it straight kid .
Prince Albert, husband of Queen Victoria died from typhoid.
Prince Albert Victor died from pneumonia.
What's more, he died from it! He didn't "pass" - it wasn't an exam!
There was an influenza pandemic around the late 1880s to early 1890s which was referred to as "Russian flu" or "Asiatic flu". That was what Albert Victor had and it turned to pneumonia which was what killed him.
It is creepy how much George looks like his Russian cousin, Nicholas. I think there was another identical cousin to those two.
Queen Mary was an amazing woman. Really much better than the Wales' She was very much dedicated to learning and service to the country
Amazing how her children, grandchildren and great grandchildren still carry her features
A rather simple error in sevenths and eighths is hardly good reason to gleefully bully the presenter of this interesting short documentary. I learned something from it. Admittedly, I’m not an avid observer of the royals but I should think that those of you who are and know so much about such matters should also know about good manners. There are much nicer ways to bring an error to the attention of those who have erred.
Totally agree.....
Then the presenter should've placed a disclaimer, "For entertainment purposes only". What if a high school student were using this as reference material or maybe studying for a test? Speaking for myself, my history teachers weren't very forgiving when getting the facts wrong. Imagine the embarrassment and disappointment when they get the grade.
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You should know by now.... the internet is a free-for-all not a library of reference. We have libraries where the books are classed as.... fiction, nonfiction , history..... ect... i've hesrd alot of fiction that I thought was history on the "come and get it" internet....it's a joke, 'cause it's not regulated. Wait till you accidentally see the porn. School report ?? I don't think so.......
Well, I see gergle is censoring to push their own "bent" beliefs.
You go gerble......
Absolutely agree.
Too many times should think before opening their mouths
As it should be said more often, To error is human
And your gift is to be humble in your errors that you may learn from your errors
She did her royal duty as best she could. May she rest in peace
In my humble and sinful opinion, all of the ladies in the 19th century were very, very beautiful, and it is too bad that I did not live when they lived
The footage supposedly of Prince Albert Victor's funeral is actually not. The cortège passes by the cenotaph, which didn't even exist then. Not was it possible to make a movie in 1892. The same applies to the footage of their wedding. And some image choices are unfortunate. A picture of the younger George and Mary around the part about his death? Makes no sense. And the title is clickbait.
I think you need to do more research,and try to not assume without something to back it up
My grandmothers friend made her wigs which she had sewn into her hats. She said that she would always praise her and send little gifts.
It's probably a good thing that Edward VIII abdicated. He was awfully chummy with Adolf Hitler, who might have actually won the war with him still on the throne.
Hitler offered him the chance to 're-take the throne when Germany had bombed Britain into submission' when David & Wallis were living in Portugal. David was very surprised when records were found just after the war of all phone calls, letters, telegrams, meetings between David, Wallis & various high level Nazis & supporters. & people are sorry David & Wallis weren't 'allowed' to settle back in the UK - it was his own decision - could it possibly have been some vague moment of shame on his part?
To this day it sounds like a difficult family to be a part of
She looked German because she was German. Where do you think Teck is? It a Principality in Germany. du. She was NOT a British princess. Where do you get this information. You did nothing to make this correct. Sad you can do so little.
Is it because I knew this that I failed to catch this point? Yes, she looked German because she was German. . .she said so, didn't she?
I could never get over that name. "Fat Mary." Bruh. That would be so inappropriate today. Lol.
They were a very handsome couple.
Edward VII wasn't her son, he was her father-in-law. He didn't abdicate either, he died after a short 10 years-long reign.
She was notorious for walking into shops and jewellers and taking items without paying for them, it's said that in Windsor, shopkeepers would hurriedly shut up their shops when she went into the town
Lol wow
This sounds like a junior high project.
Her husband George v did in fact have extra marital relationships and is believed to have fathered at least one child , To Hilda Masters who was the then princess May’s ‘blackberry picking’ best friend , George v would meet her as a married woman at Bognor and she had a son to the king , one Anthony Blunt who hovered around the Royal family all his life , he was also knighted and as Sir Anthony Blunt , the art historian and was in charge of the Queens Pictures , it was discovered he was a spy for the soviets along with Phil by burgess and McLean , he lost his knighthood but escaped punishment as the bastard son of the king he was by blood Queen Elizabeth 11 uncle so they did not touch him , the others fled for their lives and ended up living in the Soviet Union
Actually, they originally gave permission for the Romanovs to escape to England but then the Romanov girls, all 4 of them (not sure about Alexei) got measles and could not travel. By the time they recovered, the British royals had changed their minds because it was felt that the English public would not like the Empress Alexandra in their country since she was German (although so was the British royal family, to be honest). That spelled doom for the Romanovs.
If you can’t get your history straight I’m not interested.
If Queen Mary looked “German” then the whole current (and recently Queen Elizabeth II) surely still looks “German”. I’m amazed at how much Queen Elizabeth and Princess Anne looked/looks like Queen Mary. I also think she was a very attractive woman, especially in her later years. She has a fabulous figure, which she probably also passed on to the women down the line. Some inaccuracies but otherwise an interesting video.
Since Queen Elizabeth died this all seems much longer ago.
Describing World War 1 as 'a harrowing moment' pretty much sums up this utter dross.
There are too many errors and inaccuracies in this video.
I know! Making sure I let UA-cam know not to recommend it anymore - disappointing
Mary had the last laugh with respect to the people who called her ugly. I think she looked fine. Most of the British queens were never known for their beauty, but they were known for more important attributes. If Kate Middleton becomes queen, she will be known for both.
Look at how many people who claim Diana would have been such a marvelous Queen merely because she 'was soooooo bootiful'
Queen Mary's son was Edward VIII. Edward VII was her father in law!
So very interesting. Thank you.
Also a cold and cruel way to end a biography. I think it would have been more conclude with a reminder of the good she did with her life. However, I appreciate the history lesson on an era we were not taught about in our Canadian school.
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Having read all the comments, I have only one to make. We should never judge the decisions that others make. Even knowing “historical” facts doesn’t mean we know what is in anyone’s heart. I think that is the least we can and should do. I’ve been in the shoes of both sides.❤