Jazz Greats Use THIS Instead of the Altered Scale

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  • Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
  • The Altered Scale can be really hard to use during your improvised solos, but many musicians want to get that sound into their playing. Luckily, we can learn from the jazz greats like Cannonball Adderley, Dexter Gordon and the modern genius Patrick Bartley to see how they get the altered sound into their solos, without relying on an awkward scale!
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    0:45 The Altered Scale
    2:33 Cannonball Adderley
    4:10 Dexter Gordon
    5:04 Patrick Bartley
    6:25 Why does this trick work?
    8:21 Why is the trick useful?
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  • @Bobbias
    @Bobbias Рік тому +98

    I'm a simple man, I see Pat, I click.

    • @victoza9232
      @victoza9232 2 місяці тому

      That's really overused, dude.

  • @25dbz-ot9br
    @25dbz-ot9br Рік тому +50

    Heavy concepts simplified and the theoretical explanation. Great job. For those of us who didn’t go to music school, this stuff is gold. Stuff you can put to work on the gig (practice first!) right away. THANK YOU.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому +8

      Thanks man, I really appreciate it! Making all of this stuff digestible and accessible for people that haven't gone to music college is absolutely what I'm trying to do across the channel!

    • @georgesember9069
      @georgesember9069 Рік тому +6

      Thanks for the high quality analysis. I appreciate because I only went to business school. At 80 years old, I love learning what I can about music!

  • @andrewbowie
    @andrewbowie Рік тому

    Thanks for this. I’ve been thinking something similar, but the way you put it made it all so much easier. Brilliant.

  • @floaty10
    @floaty10 Рік тому +1

    Great lesson as usual Josh. Bought your Dexter Book. Fantastic read, full of useful info.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Thanks! I'm so glad you enjoyed the book!

  • @Nestor_Fernandez
    @Nestor_Fernandez Рік тому +3

    Hi Josh, really eye-opening. That makes it much easier to come up with cool lines. Thank you!

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому +1

      No problem, Nestor! Thanks for watching!

  • @leighwakeham4890
    @leighwakeham4890 Рік тому +6

    Clear and concise as ever, even I (sort of) understood it.

  • @davewillmusic3334
    @davewillmusic3334 Рік тому +7

    Wow, this man earned the hell out of this like a subscribe. You put your heart and soul into this art for years and it shows!

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much - you have no idea how much that means to me!!

  • @user-ub5qu7bd3x
    @user-ub5qu7bd3x Рік тому

    Great explanation. Simple explanations are so helpful. There is always such a challenge in an improvisers brain try ing to express ideas fast yet having a smooth tonal center at any given moment. Thanks look forward to hearing more!!

  • @blindcanseemusic
    @blindcanseemusic Місяць тому

    Love your tone. Excellent advice

  • @AmberD
    @AmberD Рік тому +11

    Excellent! As someone who teaches, there is not enough educational content out there like this. It's inspiring to see! Oftentimes advanced topics are taught in overly and overtly complex (even convoluted) ways, when concepts like this can be distilled more simply without losing anything in the process.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому +1

      Thanks, Amber, that really means a lot! I think the complexity in music theory/education can sometimes be a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy - someone gets taught it in a complex way, so they then teach it to others in the same complex way, and on and on it goes. Sometimes we all just need to step back and reassess things to spot other ways of thinking about it - there were years of me struggling with the altered scale before I realised this far simpler way of getting there!

  • @ChipTheMusicMan
    @ChipTheMusicMan Рік тому

    This is enormously helpful. I've heard this in Cannonball's playing but had no idea how to get the sound...until now!

  • @bwbillwilliamsbw
    @bwbillwilliamsbw Рік тому

    Really helpful - simplifies my thinking and improves my playing.

  • @georgehiggins1320
    @georgehiggins1320 15 днів тому

    I feel like a lot of the best jazz musicians don't pick one way or the other to think about it, but have spent so much time understanding how it works that they have multiple ways to think about it and hence multiple perspectives to approach it from.

  • @nicohauptmentalist
    @nicohauptmentalist Рік тому

    great man! i will try this aproach. the triad itself sounds amazing. btw very entertaining video and "performance".

  • @patrickmilano7262
    @patrickmilano7262 Рік тому

    This is an incredible video. Thanks for opening my eyes to this!

  • @sampowellmusic
    @sampowellmusic 5 місяців тому

    Wow this just opened up a lot of possibilities in my brain thank you

  • @johnklimeck
    @johnklimeck Місяць тому +1

    This is Pat Martino exactly… over G7: Abm (b9), Bm (3rd), Fm (7th), Dm (5th)…. From most dissonant to consonant…Pats Linear Expressions, Dorian on all chords. Take some time and get under the fingers, it’s invaluable…

  • @corrindion
    @corrindion Рік тому

    Wow...very nice explanations!! Thank you!

  • @isoEH
    @isoEH Рік тому

    Good lesson! Thank you!

  • @ScottDercksGuitarist
    @ScottDercksGuitarist Рік тому

    Thanks for the video Josh.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching, Scott. I hope you found it helpful!

  • @EdwinDekker71
    @EdwinDekker71 Рік тому +3

    The scale comes from the minor chord on the 4th. Example A -> Dmi -> A
    Scale on the Dmi is D melodic minor, which translates to the "backdoor dominant" G7#11, leading to tritone substitute C#alt

  • @jazzturtle2508
    @jazzturtle2508 Рік тому

    Very nicely explained, thank you.

  • @smokinjazzguitar
    @smokinjazzguitar Рік тому

    Your video is really very good as you make a very good point and demonstrate it as well .

  • @berndkiltz
    @berndkiltz 2 місяці тому

    Excellent Video!

  • @djmileski
    @djmileski 6 місяців тому

    Genius. Thank u. I’ve been searching for a practical thought process to get the altered sound

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  6 місяців тому +1

      I'm so glad you like the concept - it makes the altered sound so much easier to achieve!

  • @jazzman_10
    @jazzman_10 Рік тому

    Great stuff, thanks!

  • @LiorGrayevski
    @LiorGrayevski Рік тому

    Great video man

  • @jonasboner8120
    @jonasboner8120 Рік тому

    Great lesson. Thanks a bunch.

  • @samasuncion
    @samasuncion 7 місяців тому

    Really cool. Clearly explained.

  • @McGillMusicSaxSchool
    @McGillMusicSaxSchool 9 місяців тому +1

    Really interesting explanation here Josh and I like how thinking in this way makes it really easy to get these interesting sounds in your solos. Cool!

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  9 місяців тому

      Oh wow, thanks so much Nigel! That really means a lot coming from you!

  • @GetYourSaxTogether
    @GetYourSaxTogether Рік тому +2

    I’m really impressed with the effort you put into your videos: b roll, manuscript, sound effects, different framings, cut aways etc. brilliant. I wish I had time to do that these days!! 👍🏻

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому +1

      Oh wow thanks, Jamie! That means a lot!

    • @GetYourSaxTogether
      @GetYourSaxTogether Рік тому +2

      @@joshwakeham you had me at the Patrick Bartley thumb though! 👍🏻🤣

    • @Bobbias
      @Bobbias Рік тому

      ​@@GetYourSaxTogether that's what got me.

  • @blapis89
    @blapis89 Рік тому

    enjoyed. liked. subscribed. will definitely practice.

  • @duaneharlick
    @duaneharlick Рік тому +5

    Long ago I picked up a similar cheat code from guitarist Emily Remmler. She used the Major scale of the raised 5th in her turnarounds. So against a II-V-I in G, for example, she would pass through Eb Major against the V chord. Both Eb minor and Eb major work well here, as both F# (minor 3rd of Eb) and G (major 3rd of Eb) fall within the dominant scale of G. Very cool stuff.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      That's another great tip if you want to avoid the #11, thanks for sharing!

    • @irishmuso7129
      @irishmuso7129 3 місяці тому

      Cool! Never thought of that, but it makes sense as the V of Abm.

  • @user-qz7xy3lh8c
    @user-qz7xy3lh8c Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing!! It helps a lot!!!

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching, it's great to hear the video was useful!

  • @BluenoteBoy
    @BluenoteBoy Рік тому +1

    Fabulous insight, as a guitarist I will certainly be trying to incorporate this great sound. Thanks 😊

  • @MissouriFertility
    @MissouriFertility Рік тому

    wonderful! Thank you!!

  • @franortenzi1203
    @franortenzi1203 Рік тому

    congrats for the excellent video! very good explanation, won a new follower.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Thanks, Fran! It's great to hear that you enjoyed the video!

  • @louissterlini
    @louissterlini Рік тому

    so useful, thanks!

  • @RalphBrooker-gn9iv
    @RalphBrooker-gn9iv 8 місяців тому

    Very clever, useful lesson.

  • @future62
    @future62 Рік тому

    Wow, brilliant stuff.

  • @chorizoworst8373
    @chorizoworst8373 6 місяців тому

    Amazing video!

  • @ernietrelfall8640
    @ernietrelfall8640 Рік тому

    so glad i found this simple method.

  • @SaxSpy
    @SaxSpy Рік тому

    very cool! picked up your books as well

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Thank you so much! I hope you enjoy them!

  • @GizzyDillespee
    @GizzyDillespee Рік тому +1

    Sounds good. Easy way to think about it.

  • @Chilajuana
    @Chilajuana Рік тому +1

    Awesome tutorial!!!

  • @francistaylor5097
    @francistaylor5097 Рік тому +1

    Great video as ever, sir. I won't lie; this is challenging stuff but I always find your explanations engaging.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Thanks Francis. Sadly I couldn't think of a way to include the moka pot in this one!

    • @francistaylor5097
      @francistaylor5097 Рік тому

      @@joshwakeham Well, I couldn't find the words to mask my disappointment!

  • @dbmusic67
    @dbmusic67 8 місяців тому

    Really great tip, thank you! Been experimenting with this for a bit and for the 3 most common altered dominants I'm finding in jazz standards - the b5, #5 and b9 - what is working best is the m7 arpeggio up a half step on a #5, and a m-7b5 arpeggio up a half step on the b5 and b9. Which simplifies things hugely. Really helpful!

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  8 місяців тому

      Oh man, thinking about arpeggios/simpler shapes is a great way to get into the more complex sounds. I'm a huge fan of that way of thinking!

  • @josepessoa8543
    @josepessoa8543 Рік тому

    Thank you for the enlightening video. I'm just starting understanding how useful it is the melodic minor scale to get into this altered sound.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching, José! Good to hear you found it helpful. The melodic minor is such a useful scale, both for the altered sound and for other harmonic devices - I'd definitely recommend getting comfortable with it

  • @lesgoe8908
    @lesgoe8908 Рік тому

    Excellent!

  • @BrendaBoykin-qz5dj
    @BrendaBoykin-qz5dj 10 місяців тому

    Thank you,Joshua🌹🌹⭐🌹🌹

  • @nickspencer2207
    @nickspencer2207 Рік тому

    Wow, this is an awesome thing to sound more hip, and it works right away! You can just do it immediately and it sounds great

  • @michaeldmytriw1047
    @michaeldmytriw1047 Рік тому +8

    YES!!! That was enormously helpful. This reminds me of how it finally dawned on me that playing a minor pentatonic scale two steps above a major 7th chord captures a lot of the fun extensions. Subscribed!

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Michael, so great to hear the video was helpful! That minor pentatonic tip is definitely a useful one, and one I'd actually completely forgotten about - thanks for the reminder!

    • @michaeldmytriw1047
      @michaeldmytriw1047 Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I suppose another maybe clearer way to explain for would be just to play a minor pentatonic starting on the third degree of the major triad. I’m jazzed (my apologies) about your channel. You just blew the doors off for me!

    • @ChromaticHarp
      @ChromaticHarp Рік тому +2

      Yes! Also build a minor pentatonic on the major 7th degree…for instant Lydian flavor…

    • @michaeldmytriw1047
      @michaeldmytriw1047 Рік тому +1

      @@ChromaticHarp WHOA. That is KILLER. Music just pours out when you get that lydian flavor. THANK YOU!!! Fun to vamp over Bbm7 and BM7. SO GOOD!!!

    • @ChromaticHarp
      @ChromaticHarp Рік тому

      @@michaeldmytriw1047 Yes! That’s a cool Vamp!

  • @ericfredenburgh4577
    @ericfredenburgh4577 Рік тому +2

    Eb7b5 ( eb db g a) A7( a c# e g) so em7 ( e g b d ) is essentially playing the upper structure of the parent chord when the eb chord is thought of as being an A7 with an altered root. There is a transcription of Adderlys solo on straight no chaser where his brilliance in alternate arpeggios is shown. Great video here , I subscribed! Can’t wait to see more!

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Thanks for the tip - I'll check that out that solo!

  • @stevenuttley
    @stevenuttley 4 місяці тому +1

    I suspect the altered scale was 'invented' at Berklee or somewhere similar (like the so-called 'be-bop scale'). It's certainly a scale and it contains all the possible alterations but I doubt many musicians actually thought of it that way. In fact until about 1955 I doubt they thought much in terms of scales at all. I've read quite a few biographies of the bop pioneers and they seemed to visualize mainly in chordal terms.

  • @johnjacquard863
    @johnjacquard863 Рік тому

    love superimposition!

  • @MechanicalRabbits
    @MechanicalRabbits Рік тому +5

    As a guitarist, this sounds super helpful! can't wait to try it out

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Let me know how you get on with it!

    • @clifflisette
      @clifflisette Місяць тому

      Super ideas Sir. I'm on my way to try all these. Thanks.

  • @prolixsicklicks
    @prolixsicklicks Рік тому

    Brilliant channel, Josh. Engaging, highly practical tips and great presentation too! :)

  • @johncostigan6160
    @johncostigan6160 Рік тому

    Thanks for the tip! Somehow, I picture truly great players using a simple, yet logical technique, (like the minor scale 1/2 step up from the dominant) rather than the altered "rocket science" approach. I'm going to use this immediately.

  • @paulrodberg
    @paulrodberg Рік тому

    Convinced me, you have. Thank you for your teaching.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching, Paul. It's great to hear you enjoyed the video!

  • @rickjensen2717
    @rickjensen2717 Рік тому +4

    Teally helpfull. Joe Pass and Stan Getz follow this approach as well, with a very strong sense of melody, which makes it great.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Thanks Rick, I'm glad you found it helpful! Joe Pass is someone I've not really checked out (guitarists are a bit of a blind spot for me in general), but it's great to know that this approach isn't limited to horn players!

    • @rickjensen2717
      @rickjensen2717 Рік тому

      @@joshwakeham Oscar Peterson said that Joe was a 'genius' - used to play alongside many of the greats in 1960s and 70s - well worth listening to for a slightly different type of sound. Keep up the great work 👍

  • @BernardoBeraldi
    @BernardoBeraldi Рік тому

    Great analisys.

  • @MabookaMabooka
    @MabookaMabooka 4 місяці тому +1

    Apparently I often play so called 'altered scale' by I never new it's called like this. Instead, I thing of it as half an octave diminished and half an octave whole-tone.

  • @yonatanc25
    @yonatanc25 Місяць тому

    Thank you!!!
    The jazz greats worked out ways to not work hard . Now, their secrets are exposed. I wish i new this 20 years ago. Amazing

  • @bilaltarabey5621
    @bilaltarabey5621 Рік тому

    It's great. Thank you very much

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching, it's great to hear you enjoyed the video!

  • @ChrisF_1982
    @ChrisF_1982 2 місяці тому

    You're definitely right about them not thinking about not thinking about the scale when thinking about the sound it produces. I used it inadvertently for quite a few years.

  • @Tristanlu789
    @Tristanlu789 11 місяців тому

    So useful😂😂😂😂😂i am going to follow you right now❤❤❤❤❤🎉

  • @jamiehobbs3750
    @jamiehobbs3750 Рік тому

    Awesome!

  • @mbmillermo
    @mbmillermo Рік тому +12

    Great idea! Another way to think about it is in terms of tritone substitution -- if the chord is G7 alt, then D♭9 (chord, arpeggio, etc.) will sound great, or you could do a ii-V7 with that, which would be A♭m7-D♭9. The only note that is different between A♭ Dorian and G altered is the G♭ replacing the G natural. That G♭ plays an interesting role -- it would be the 4th of D♭ Mixolydian, so a note that is typically not held long when playing over D♭7, and as the enharmonic equivalent of the major 7th of G, it would be used in the G dominant bebop scale, also not a strong note there.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Yeah that is another great way to think of it!

    • @mbmillermo
      @mbmillermo Рік тому +1

      @@joshwakeham -- You've really got me thinking today. Another idea: We could play G minor pentatonic or G blues over the G7, then go to the A♭ minor pentatonic (or minor added sixth pentatonic) and then to A minor pentatonic (or C major pentatonic). That seems to make it even easier to remember and learn because it's just a chromatic modulation. Of course, that assumes that the G7 resolves to C.

    • @ChromaticHarp
      @ChromaticHarp Рік тому

      Natural 9 on the SUB FIVE is better NOT b9

    • @mbmillermo
      @mbmillermo Рік тому

      @@ChromaticHarp -- I'm saying D♭9 or D♭7(9) NOT D♭7♭9. So I think we agree. The natural 9th of the tritone sub is the ♭13 or #5 of the dominant, so it works as an altered tone.

    • @ChromaticHarp
      @ChromaticHarp Рік тому +1

      @@mbmillermo I’m sorry Mike, I thought you wrote b9 my bad!

  • @kribiswas
    @kribiswas Рік тому

    Bravo!

  • @dmlutz2
    @dmlutz2 Рік тому

    As a jazz beginner who has not played anyone else's solos very much, attempting to get my fingers and ears to invent a decent solo over a 251, this bit of info, particularly the minor triad bit, produced some great sounds. Thank you

  • @tstuba01
    @tstuba01 Рік тому

    good vid!

  • @rapinncapin123
    @rapinncapin123 Рік тому

    Super simple
    The way you explained it

  • @MasterCoachUniversity
    @MasterCoachUniversity Рік тому

    i remember when kevin bales taught all of us students at UNF these scales and the basis of using them in the common licks and language throughout jazz improv. major breakthrough in noodling through altered chord resolutions especially

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому +1

      Oh man that sounds like an enlightening lesson!

    • @MasterCoachUniversity
      @MasterCoachUniversity Рік тому

      @@joshwakeham basically bringing the scale down to six notes made everything easy in a duple time system. Same thing with diminished scales being eight notes or bebop scales at eight notes
      Seven note scales are lousy for eighth notes in typical jazz time signatures

  • @MusicAlgarve
    @MusicAlgarve Рік тому

    Wow
    Gonna try this right now

  • @jodyguilbeaux8225
    @jodyguilbeaux8225 Рік тому

    wow, that sax sounds fantastic.

  • @Ken-pi7qk
    @Ken-pi7qk 11 місяців тому

    Phil Woods will often use the minor major 7 arpeggio a semitone up, ie Abm(maj7) over G7

  • @asherperkinsmusic2767
    @asherperkinsmusic2767 Рік тому

    Welp. That was excellent. Good work, dude

  • @ScottPaddock
    @ScottPaddock Рік тому

    Congrats on a breakout UA-cam video! Also, nice teaching approach to simplify a complex idea.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Thanks Scott, that really means a lot coming from you!

  • @SuperflyFunkyBunny
    @SuperflyFunkyBunny Рік тому

    Great video and examples!
    I like to think of these instances as flat 6 minor licks over the dominant 7 chords. i.e. F minor over D7,Eb minor over G7 etc.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Thanks! I've never thought of it like that before, definitely something to explore!

  • @mannoplanet
    @mannoplanet Рік тому

    thank you.

  • @hahabass
    @hahabass 7 місяців тому

    'Later-life (old) bass player here, who has struggled with jazz harmony for nearly 30 years. The light just came in and I'm delightfully blinded by it! This is a brilliantly illuminating post. Grateful! 🙏🏽

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  7 місяців тому

      I'm so glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Maximus_sage
    @Maximus_sage Рік тому

    Short version: play the minor chord a semitone up from the root note when on a dominant chord

  • @bobblues1158
    @bobblues1158 Рік тому

    Finally some one comes up with the correct interpretation and the easiest. But instead of learning from books learn by transcription. Books are great to use after one has transcribed. The books are there to help explain what the source material is for the great melodies played by the great players. Then one can use that knowledge to find one´s own original voice.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Thanks Bob! Transcribing really is the only way, at least to start with, you're right.

  • @grahamokeefe9406
    @grahamokeefe9406 3 місяці тому

    Alternatively, you could use a triad pair on the #4 and #5, or a tritone sub as shortcuts to an altered sound.

  • @brunomaiamusic
    @brunomaiamusic Рік тому

    Very nice video. I have subscribed to your channel because of this upload being suggested to me, ( because of my natural altered state, who knows).
    When I learned ALT 3 decades ago I thought like starting diminished and then ending whole tone scale.
    Isn't the minor melodic in orthodox harmony like alt scale on the way up only?
    Perhaps calling it the aeolian mode of the melodic minor makes more sense. I will use that when trying to explain it next time.
    3:00 is a good example likely used in colleges to sample that.
    But was Cannonball and Dexter thinking like that back in the day or it just occured to be in the ALT scale and later found out by transcript freaks? I always thought ALT was more like a newer concept.
    Do you know when ALT scales became part of Modern Jazz Harmony books? I am curious about the history behind it. Did thoes cats discover it? How did it the whole ALT concept start?

  • @derycktrahair8108
    @derycktrahair8108 8 місяців тому

    Have been playing "outside" like that by ear & not knowing what was going on. Thanks. Ps. Love your Tnr sound.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  8 місяців тому

      Thanks Deryck, I'm glad I could help you find out what it is you've been playing!

  • @rockstarjazzcat
    @rockstarjazzcat Рік тому

    Agreed on the awkwardness, especially for beginner players. And thanks for pointing out the other ways into the sound. I note that if only hearing b9 and b13 alterations on a V7, it may be being treated as the V7 in harmonic minor, the "altered scale" only coming into play later in jazz development. Switching locrian or locrian natural nine to altered scale to melodic minor always made minor ii-V7 cadences seem much more convoluted to me to play over than they sound naturally occurring in harmony. The minor 7b5 and V7b9b13 both live within the related, parent harmonic minor resolving to the parallel melodic minor. Seems easier to start with that before going for locrian natural 9 and altered scale as became common later. Cheers, Daniel

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Yeah you're right. You can't tell for sure if it's altered or harmonic minor without having more of the notes. I was taught altered before harmonic minor - in fact I was originally taught that the harmonic minor shouldn't be used which is obviously not the case - which I'm sure influences my thinking during more ambiguous moments

  • @raymondwhittenberg3873
    @raymondwhittenberg3873 6 місяців тому

    If memory serves me correctly the Dexter example you show and the second Bartley part are just different ornamentation of the opening lick to Cry me a River. Stitt, Coltrane, Pepper Adams, tons of people play it in any key imaginable. I enjoy it honestly. Also the diminished and altered lines in that second Bartley snippet absolutely slap! So seamlessly weaved.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  5 місяців тому

      Yeah both are classic bits of vocab for sure!

  • @garylacroix7743
    @garylacroix7743 Рік тому

    Really enlightening. You have great facial gestures. Wonderful content.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      My flexible face is definitely one of my best life skills 😂

  • @Dimitri-Jordania
    @Dimitri-Jordania Рік тому +1

    4:44 **(w/ a 9th & also a maj7. W/rest of the context it kinda implies B melodic minor despite not having the 13 in that run)

  • @rickording
    @rickording Рік тому

    Great video. Here's another way to look at it - for example: G7 is resolving to Cm. This is why you will play the Cm harmonic scale on a G7. And I think that's what they're doing, using both harmonic and melodic feel.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Yeah the harmonic minor is definitely an underappreciated sound - I'm very guilty of ignoring it sometimes!

    • @mjazzguitar
      @mjazzguitar Рік тому

      Never thought of thought. Great scale for a dominant #5.

  • @aSingingWind
    @aSingingWind Рік тому

    I love the way you speaking with moving bodies XDDD

  • @grahamgynn8606
    @grahamgynn8606 Рік тому

    very useful

  • @drdouglofi
    @drdouglofi Рік тому +1

    Cannonball line is thinking more like tri tone sunbstitution Ab minor to Db 7#11 lydian dominant. That's the vocabulary.

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому

      Yeah that's definitely another great way to think about it!

  • @alexcoke
    @alexcoke 6 днів тому

    Theory explains practice. Music is SOUND. Thanks for a nice way of looking at this sound.

  • @markmarsden9459
    @markmarsden9459 Рік тому

    Great sax tone

  • @saxofonistacr
    @saxofonistacr Рік тому

    Once you alter a dominant chord you can use ANY alteration. Strong melody or things like triads and good resolution is key.

  • @rillloudmother
    @rillloudmother Рік тому +5

    lol, i took music theory in high school and we learned that the altered scale worked over 7#9 chords one day. i went to my rock band practice later that day and tried to play the altered scale during my solo over foxey lady. me and my bandmates then dubbed it: 'the all-turd scale.'

    • @joshwakeham
      @joshwakeham  Рік тому +1

      😂 we've all tried that before! I remember clearing the dance floor on a wedding gig years ago by trying out some 'cool' altered lines. I quickly learnt my lesson on that one!

    • @davidsheriff9274
      @davidsheriff9274 Рік тому

      I think if you want to get a little hip and outside on a dominant 7#9 chord in a modal or blues setting, the half step whole step diminished scale is probably going to be your best bet. Think Chick Corea, Michael Brecker, Scott Henderson ect.

  • @googlekopfkind
    @googlekopfkind 4 місяці тому

    The wrong note, namely the major seventh in a dominant, can be in the context of a major triad that has the root a major third above the dominant, and in the example you provided, the entire triad is even played. Dominants have a wide chromatic range, and your consideration is actually just one of the possibilities for thinking about altered dominants. The wrong note is not a wrong note but rather part of a chromatic alteration of the dominant. One can also think of it without chromatic alteration, considering the major triad a major third lower or a tritone lower than the dominant. Of course, the minor triad a minor second above is also an option. However, I also find the D7 a minor second higher interesting because it also introduces the raised seventh

  • @bathrobeman66
    @bathrobeman66 Рік тому

    dang ima try this on guitar rn