Dorit was so pathetic when she received a compliment from Erika, only to say “that’s the first time you have given me a compliment” 🤣 Screaming her insecurities to Erika lol
She was so disrespectful to that makeup artist I commend him so much. I would have set my brushes down and walked away. You don’t treat people that way Dorit
Yeah I'm a makeup artist and unfortunately it's always the people like her who take issue with their makeup being done. They're never happy no matter what you do.
I couldn’t stand her accent at first but since watching the show I just got used to hearing it 😂. Also, i will say her accent can be real even though she was born in Connecticut. Both of her parents were immigrants with heavy accents and lets not forget she is fluent in 4 languages, studied abroad and even lived in Italy for 7 years, then marries a Brit. I’m sure the combination of all those things can make an odd accent so I’m trying not to judge. Cause who knows 🤷🏾♀️
Exactly. I never understood the hate she received because of her accent. Her parents aren’t American, dad is Israeli and mom is Colombian. She’s also lived in Europe for many years.
I feel (just MY feelings) that she and PK don’t really have the money they say they do. Erika actually had money(although I know her husband is now under investigation) and had her glam squad available 24/7. After PantyGate I felt that Dorit tried to be more glam than Erika. Dorit can pull off her looks and she looks very nice, but I believe she tries too hard to be something she can’t financially be.
I disagree..Dorit keeps up very well regardless of any financial situation as we all see...and Eryka dress more exotic than sophisticated the way Dorit does frfr...but both are surely&clearly Fashionistas! 💃💅💄👙👓💼
The hair should have been pulled tight to the back instead if loose. The loose hair fought with the gold. Had the hair been severely pulled back, the gold would have been the focus. Whatever.
It drives me crazy that Dorit saw Erika being unapologetic about her "glam squad" travelling with her, and now suddenly Dorit also has a glam squad. Yet Dorit cannot give a single nod to Erika for the idea. She is acting as though she always had a glam squad. Dorit has never had an original thought in that empty space she calls her head.
Love her, she is not afraid of fashion, her hair is the best accessory, When she arrived with that jean jacket she kinda look like a younger version of Goldie Hawn❤️
Pink , Actually fashionistas don’t try hard at all. It comes naturally to be a true fashionista. Now when you have people like Mariah Carey and Beyoncé who look tacky in their clothes that’s a try hard. Rihanna is a natural fashionista and it shows. But I do agree that the previous comment was talking about Doritos personality.
@NayNay Ratchet Yolanda showed us her real life; husband, children, illness, fabulous gardens, great parties, friends, ..she was a good one. What has this one showed us other than that awful empty house?
I think she said it on purpose to be snarky. I know I would after someone gave me shit for not “complimenting them” enough. Imagine EXPECTING people to compliment you all the time.
Still can’t stand her. But her hair and fashion only improved her second season in to compete with Erika’s. And she only started having her glam squad travel with her only after she saw that that’s what Erika does. Her hair was the same every day and now it’s always different. She looks great though! Just not original.
Exactly!! Erika made her step her game up! Her style first season was boring like Kyle’s and she seen how Erika dresses and she stepped it up a notch! She will never give Erika the credit but we all know!
Well she made up for the first season cause Dorit is more Sophisticated than Original hands down...when it comes to Fashion...Eryka does not have rights to be the only fashionable one on the show regardless of how we feel about her character
Eileen's reaction to Dorit's baby shoe video is SOOO me whenever anyone tries to show me anything about their babies lol. I just don't know how to fake like I genuinely care lol
Dorit is pretty with a great body, and I admire her fashion choices, most if the time. And I like that she is always willing to try a different hairstyle, but that gold thing she tried to do with her hair was a complete direct miss!
Yeah. The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills have always been one of the more glamorous groups, but Dorit takes fashion and glamour to a whole new level. And even though she's high maintenance, she's almost always honest about it, and that(usually)doesn't stop her from being so sweet and funny. ❤
Doris doesn’t have her own sense of style! That’s the problem. She just follows the trends of young adults HEAVILY and it’s weird. You can dress young and still be tasteful considering her age. I. E. Erica. Every time I’ve seen her on camera this season it’s been a completely gaudy trend after another. I’m sorry but it’s always been a no for me
But Dorit dresses better than Eryka to me because Eryka dress more Exotic..Dorit dress Sophisticated though...differed fashion both are Fashionistas regardless of their financiall business
I totally agree. Dorit has no sense of self. She has no personal style. She likes whatever brands put out without any discretion. She has no personal taste Erika wears the same brands but always looks like Erika. You can see a dress and say “that’s an Erika dress”. But Dorit.... she likes that she is told to like, Dorit has been on the show for years now and we still know nothing about her. She changes her hair a lot, has a fake accent and creepy husband. All surface stuff. Who is she as a person? Well she doesn’t know herself
Yeah she’s very camp for 40+. When you don’t look your age it’s hard to dress your age. Lol I’m going through that now. I’m 30 and look 18. So I still wear crop tops and trendy Gen Z clothes but as of lately I have been feeling weird wearing these clothes lol 😂
That photo of her was phenomenal. What does she SEE that's so terrible? Poor girl has so many insecurities from being complimented by Erika to full-on makeup and photography not conforming to her standards.
Except p.k does not have a proper English accent (upper crust), more of a common working class accent , which is fine. Just can't imagine imitating that on purpose ....but, each to their own. Scrubber made good basically.
Dorit "me, me, me some more." She did not like the photo shoot pics, then complained they weren't used. Her beauty is over shadowed by her constant need for attention.
Its funny i dont think of her as a fashionista. Honestly i dont really think of any of the rhobh ladies as fashionistas except for erika! Not a diss just true! The housewives of ny and atlanta have a much better style
Not crazy on her personality, but she does take risks and serves great looks most of the time. This franchise and Rhoa are the go-to for fashion moments. Most of the other franchises only try for the reunion 🤷🏾♀️
I thought the same thing! Anyone who thinks she has a good sense of fashion is delusional. Not to mention her boob job adds to the tackiness of it all.
I for one, LOVE Dorit. Yes she can be a bit extra but who on this show isn't? She is gorgeous, has clout..go ahead and be yourself lady! You are killing the fashion game. No one is on your level on this show. Except maybe Erika, and that probably means you also like menu items at the Sugar Factory.
“You look like an old movie star” “Yeah 1920’s” Show me a picture of ANYBODY that looked like that in 1920. Please. I’m so tired of people that wanna claim they’re fashion forward but don’t even know their fashion history. References like this are what modernize and destroy decade fashion in today’s society.
I love For it, & PK! I'd dress like her, if I could afford to, I can only imagine how amazing it would be to have a glam squad! I've never had someone else do my hair & makeup?? I'd probably look better!
Dorit............youre my fav...............thank you for sharing your struggles with your sons stuff. I have a stepson that had issues.......Praying for that sweet child. and you......
Why are people commenting negatively on her accent. The woman was born in America but lived somewhere else. Accents can change depending on who you spend time with and where you lived. I am African, lived in the U.S.A for 10 years. I was told my accent changed when I moved back. You learn to pronounce words the way the people you live around do.
I have two foreign parents and have lived in other countries and first generation Australian- apparently nobody can pick where I'm from. 🤣🤣 apparently I have an accent but not Aussie, so we are all products of our environments. Her glam squad helped to throw them down the bankruptcy road. She is SUPERFICIAL.
Val Purple, At first, I thought it was funny because she's obsessed with labels - obsessed enough to jump. But then I thought, surely there was a better cause to contribute to, than obtaining a Hermes Birkin bag, Charities are a great tax write off, and she doesn't need more bags given her recent insurance claim allowed her to acquire a whole new supply of purses.
Lisa giving Dorit compliments of her looks just to drag her to filth seconds later...."You are an inspiration for women over forty who just had a baby, must be some heavy spanx going on under there" women are so mean.
These comments are so mean .dorit has incredible fashion sense i do not know why she is being compared to erika . Erika style blends with her personality so does dorit both different and equally lovely and what celeb is original
The moment Erika reminded dorit she was born in Connecticut 😂
which episode was that? i have been looking for it
she was shocked!
matimu mhinga Like season 7, episode 1 or 2
erika the best housewife everrr
What's wrong with Connecticut?)
3:00
"What do you think of mommy's hairstyle?"
"Noooo"
Same, boy, same.
That accent is so BAAAD
And quite annoying tbh
Dorit was so pathetic when she received a compliment from Erika, only to say “that’s the first time you have given me a compliment” 🤣
Screaming her insecurities to Erika lol
Or making a sarcastic observation
@@someonewithanamepink9918 exactly. lol always say it's "projecting" or insecurities or some shit when it's rlly a joke..
Dorito also said it in front of her Husband to bring down Erika’s morale bc Dorito’s insecurity and jealous of Erika
Honestly, she’s high maintenance, but she’s very upfront and honest about it.
Right. If she changed her attitude and spoke with her real accent we might have liked her
She speaks with a phony accent and she was born and raised in Connecticut!!!
Her husband is uncomfortable to watch and her accent uncomfortable to hear ! What a pair trying to be the new Lisa and Ken
I swear, it's so taxing to listen to her speak.
She was so disrespectful to that makeup artist I commend him so much. I would have set my brushes down and walked away. You don’t treat people that way Dorit
Meldoesmakeup I AGREE 100% with you she was so rude to him
Meldoesmakeup - Dorit's behaviour was laughable because she seemed to be blaming others for her inability to have a model's appearance.
Yeah I'm a makeup artist and unfortunately it's always the people like her who take issue with their makeup being done. They're never happy no matter what you do.
@@Look2LaLuna I am a makeup artist as well which is why that scene upset me. I’ve been treated this way before as well and it’s not cool
@@Mellovesdeep25 yeah i agree with you, she was horrible to him. I dread getting those types of clients.
I couldn’t stand her accent at first but since watching the show I just got used to hearing it 😂. Also, i will say her accent can be real even though she was born in Connecticut. Both of her parents were immigrants with heavy accents and lets not forget she is fluent in 4 languages, studied abroad and even lived in Italy for 7 years, then marries a Brit. I’m sure the combination of all those things can make an odd accent so I’m trying not to judge. Cause who knows 🤷🏾♀️
Exactly. I never understood the hate she received because of her accent. Her parents aren’t American, dad is Israeli and mom is Colombian. She’s also lived in Europe for many years.
She's lived everywhere for prolonged periods of time. Of course she's gonna have an accent.
The things people pick on. Really. 🙄
I agree
Girl she just got that accent b4 she joined the show. She was born and raised in america lol
@@snsrml how do you get an accent from living abroad lol
I cant take off my eyes from Erika. Dorit wants to be her but she never
I feel (just MY feelings) that she and PK don’t really have the money they say they do. Erika actually had money(although I know her husband is now under investigation) and had her glam squad available 24/7. After PantyGate I felt that Dorit tried to be more glam than Erika. Dorit can pull off her looks and she looks very nice, but I believe she tries too hard to be something she can’t financially be.
Yes
YBUR yup they live in a house of cards.
What is Erika's husband under investigation for?
@@sarevokanchev3616 what!!
I disagree..Dorit keeps up very well regardless of any financial situation as we all see...and Eryka dress more exotic than sophisticated the way Dorit does frfr...but both are surely&clearly Fashionistas! 💃💅💄👙👓💼
The foil moment just ain't it
Yeah my least fav look on her
The gold foil would have worked with a lot LESS foil lmao
With some braids too
Ceecee D. I’m trying to picture foils and braids and it’s confusing 🤔
Her son told her no at 3:14 - 3:34
I'm just confused. It's a diamond and rosé party so she wears...gold?
The hair should have been pulled tight to the back instead if loose. The loose hair fought with the gold. Had the hair been severely pulled back, the gold would have been the focus. Whatever.
It drives me crazy that Dorit saw Erika being unapologetic about her "glam squad" travelling with her, and now suddenly Dorit also has a glam squad. Yet Dorit cannot give a single nod to Erika for the idea. She is acting as though she always had a glam squad. Dorit has never had an original thought in that empty space she calls her head.
So true what Kyle said about Dorits hair 😂 it’s like the length resets back to normal when she sleeps
Love her, she is not afraid of fashion, her hair is the best accessory,
When she arrived with that jean jacket she kinda look like a younger version of Goldie Hawn❤️
Her fashion is nice but now erikaaaaa now that is fashionnnnnn
Fashunnnnn hunteyyyy
Right and doesn't mention the name brands
Nah dorit ate her up in italy 🔥
She tries soooo hard..🤦🏻♀️
Jameson Pickle juice yup
Fashion girls always try hard. Is she supposed to wear jeans and a t-shirt?🙄
Pink Don’t think the comment was about her fashions, more her personality...
Very
Pink , Actually fashionistas don’t try hard at all. It comes naturally to be a true fashionista. Now when you have people like Mariah Carey and Beyoncé who look tacky in their clothes that’s a try hard. Rihanna is a natural fashionista and it shows. But I do agree that the previous comment was talking about Doritos personality.
why is she on? I can't believe she's been on for so many seasons yet is totally unmemorable
@NayNay Ratchet Yolanda showed us her real life; husband, children, illness, fabulous gardens, great parties, friends, ..she was a good one. What has this one showed us other than that awful empty house?
Probably because she was friends with Lisa and this season is the fallout of their friendship so i would not be surprised if she is not on next season
@NayNay Ratchet Gurl.... U made me laugh 😂
@@soulsearchtarot Yolanda was the worst. Gold digger boring mean bitchy and permanent victim and just selfish
Because she's glamorous and messy.
Smh she should of listened to her son when he said no on the gold hair lol
nastasha nastasha facts
“You’re welcome very much” 😩😂
Lol you caught it as well
I think she said it on purpose to be snarky. I know I would after someone gave me shit for not “complimenting them” enough. Imagine EXPECTING people to compliment you all the time.
Still can’t stand her. But her hair and fashion only improved her second season in to compete with Erika’s. And she only started having her glam squad travel with her only after she saw that that’s what Erika does. Her hair was the same every day and now it’s always different. She looks great though! Just not original.
E P yes! This.
so true. Dorrit is so pretenches and boring. she has bird legs and stringy thin hair
Exactly!! Erika made her step her game up! Her style first season was boring like Kyle’s and she seen how Erika dresses and she stepped it up a notch! She will never give Erika the credit but we all know!
Well she made up for the first season cause Dorit is more Sophisticated than Original hands down...when it comes to Fashion...Eryka does not have rights to be the only fashionable one on the show regardless of how we feel about her character
So true
Jagger is the cutest in his little tux in the first clip.. so precious
Eileen's reaction to Dorit's baby shoe video is SOOO me whenever anyone tries to show me anything about their babies lol. I just don't know how to fake like I genuinely care lol
Same here. Adorable children have always been one of my weaknesses. ❤
I’m cracking up at the misunderstanding in this thread 😂😂😂
@@tula1433 LMAO
I hated the gold leaf design in her hair
👍Agreed! Hairbleach without finishing looks horrible tho
It was too much foil
Yes was gross not stylish at all.
Dorit is pretty with a great body, and I admire her fashion choices, most if the time. And I like that she is always willing to try a different hairstyle, but that gold thing she tried to do with her hair was a complete direct miss!
The idea was cute but the execution was terrible
@@iution4668 I agree. She probably should've listened to her son and tried something else. 😅
Yeah. The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills have always been one of the more glamorous groups, but Dorit takes fashion and glamour to a whole new level. And even though she's high maintenance, she's almost always honest about it, and that(usually)doesn't stop her from being so sweet and funny. ❤
Doris doesn’t have her own sense of style! That’s the problem. She just follows the trends of young adults HEAVILY and it’s weird. You can dress young and still be tasteful considering her age. I. E. Erica. Every time I’ve seen her on camera this season it’s been a completely gaudy trend after another. I’m sorry but it’s always been a no for me
Adanmalao Agree
But Dorit dresses better than Eryka to me because Eryka dress more Exotic..Dorit dress Sophisticated though...differed fashion both are Fashionistas regardless of their financiall business
I totally agree. Dorit has no sense of self. She has no personal style.
She likes whatever brands put out without any discretion. She has no personal taste
Erika wears the same brands but always looks like Erika. You can see a dress and say “that’s an Erika dress”. But Dorit.... she likes that she is told to like,
Dorit has been on the show for years now and we still know nothing about her. She changes her hair a lot, has a fake accent and creepy husband. All surface stuff. Who is she as a person? Well she doesn’t know herself
Yeah she’s very camp for 40+. When you don’t look your age it’s hard to dress your age. Lol I’m going through that now. I’m 30 and look 18. So I still wear crop tops and trendy Gen Z clothes but as of lately I have been feeling weird wearing these clothes lol 😂
This is crazy to spend so much money on team glam when u are in debt
She supports PK I believe.
@@Hamigal and supports boy George
@@rlast4698 I think they live off of Boy George's money ( Royalties maybe )
@@Hamigal Is Boy George still making money?
That photo of her was phenomenal. What does she SEE that's so terrible? Poor girl has so many insecurities from being complimented by Erika to full-on makeup and photography not conforming to her standards.
If I lived with her husband, I would probably have an accent as well
Lol no way. How come the kids don't have an accent lol
Yes. I had a bf who was from London and I caught myself taking up his accent 😂
Except p.k does not have a proper English accent (upper crust), more of a common working class accent , which is fine. Just can't imagine imitating that on purpose ....but, each to their own. Scrubber made good basically.
I think she looks ridiculous and sounds ridiculous. I thought this was the worst season of RHOBH.
Honestly her husband is the best. So supportive, sweet, and always showers her in compliments
A try-hard and a follower.
babykolache- I am not following your comment. The pretend amnesia was a comment between Teddi and Erika. How does this involve Dorit?
Yes
She's trying so hard to dress up like Ericka
Am I from England, USA, Australia or South Africa?? I don't know😵!! Help me!!!
😂😂😂
Where’s the fashion?
Dorit first season she was so plain Jane now she know she had to step it up bc of erika but it comes off really forced !
She's want to like erica so bad
Yay! Lisa Vanderpump chose to leave and she stayed with it! Authentic in doing so. Priorities in check. Yes!
That gold stuff she had on her head looked like yellow vomit. 🤮
They lived beyond their means... Dorit and her husband that is
Yep
Dorits fashion sense is impeccable!
The best fashion moment Dorito Chip will ever have is when she's tossed out with trash!
Hahahahaha 😂
I think that she has BROKE BROKE BROKE oozing out of her😂😂
“Stand up straight” took that to the heart
The whole photoshoot thing with LVP was messy in my opinion. She looked good, LVP was gracious yet Doritos still found something negative.
Lmao Kyle’s reaction when PK said “birkin” 🤣🤣🤣
PK really seems super sweet towards Dorit it's so beautiful to see
Dorit "me, me, me some more." She did not like the photo shoot pics, then complained they weren't used. Her beauty is over shadowed by her constant need for attention.
Just say Ty to EJ instead of oh 1st compliment you've giving me ? Who says that ? Smh
Its funny i dont think of her as a fashionista. Honestly i dont really think of any of the rhobh ladies as fashionistas except for erika! Not a diss just true! The housewives of ny and atlanta have a much better style
Lauren Hahn - Definitely RHONY, but Atlanta, I've seen a lot of horrible looks and horrible wigs/weaves.
Them, chanel earrings she wears look tacky.
These women are ment to be rich but some look so cheap.
Yes she always wear name brands that are huge
"Do you think I've too much butt out?" Hmm...Where is the butt in question?
Kyle saying “A BIRKIN?!” how New York said “BEYONCEEEE?!” is the best line in this video
One thing about Dorit is that she WILL give us FASHION 😍🤌
this has me reminiscing about how tough these mid seasons of rhobh 🔥 I did not appreciate how great it was
She’s the “Olsen twin” that I can guiltlessly call attractive.
Omg her baby son is too cute! Babies are always honest. She should of believed his honestly haha
Loved every minute of it! I think I “respect” about Dorit is that she constantly gives us FASHION!
i understand why she gets hate but i wouldn't want her off the show - she brings funny drama
I love her face before the filler and new gnashers, very unique and pretty
I feel bad for the makeup artist who Dorit was being rude to
queen of making this fandom so pressed
Henry M yessss lmao
I honestly just follow her for her style. The girl is obnoxious but 99% of the time she dressed very well 👸🏼
I love dorit with the pin straight bob. She looks soooo stunning with that
Dorit's fashion is more runway, edgy and tight.
While Erika is more of glam, camp and couture.
Dorit changes her hair like us black girls do. It’s adorbs
Not crazy on her personality, but she does take risks and serves great looks most of the time. This franchise and Rhoa are the go-to for fashion moments. Most of the other franchises only try for the reunion 🤷🏾♀️
Normally I don't agree with Lisa, but "big golden goose," I'm there for it. Jagger tried to tell her, lol. Out of the mouth of babes!
I love Jagger.
If I could wear any designers line it would be Dorit’s.
Love LVP’s hot pink dress and matching shoes! (5:20 ish)
8:50 the accent dropped 😂
Did she pay you to do this? 😂
I thought the same thing! Anyone who thinks she has a good sense of fashion is delusional. Not to mention her boob job adds to the tackiness of it all.
Wang W sorry she does have incredible fashion sense, it’s her attitude that’s disgusting
Wang W anyone who doesn’t think she has good fashion sense, DOESN’T KNOW FASHION.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 with what money?
The thing about Dorit is.. yeah she is prertty but she tries soooo HARD.
She's pretty?! Uh
I for one, LOVE Dorit. Yes she can be a bit extra but who on this show isn't? She is gorgeous, has clout..go ahead and be yourself lady! You are killing the fashion game. No one is on your level on this show. Except maybe Erika, and that probably means you also like menu items at the Sugar Factory.
I don’t know why everyone hate Dorit, I think she’s lovely ☺️
“You look like an old movie star”
“Yeah 1920’s”
Show me a picture of ANYBODY that looked like that in 1920. Please.
I’m so tired of people that wanna claim they’re fashion forward but don’t even know their fashion history. References like this are what modernize and destroy decade fashion in today’s society.
I can't lie, Dorit has got such good style
“Which one should I wear? The little Gucci dress, or the little Gucci dress?”
The guy in the background at 6:06😂😂😂
I love For it, & PK! I'd dress like her, if I could afford to, I can only imagine how amazing it would be to have a glam squad! I've never had someone else do my hair & makeup?? I'd probably look better!
Don't you just love Ken he seas them for the real trollops that they really are
Ffs :L
Beautiful, very stunning as always
*worst fashion moments
Love how she goes to kiss her husband. Very loving.
Kyle stop acting like you don’t knows about wigs & extensions 🙄
Dorit............youre my fav...............thank you for sharing your struggles with your sons stuff. I have a stepson that had issues.......Praying for that sweet child. and you......
Why are people commenting negatively on her accent. The woman was born in America but lived somewhere else. Accents can change depending on who you spend time with and where you lived. I am African, lived in the U.S.A for 10 years. I was told my accent changed when I moved back. You learn to pronounce words the way the people you live around do.
Beau33 Exactly!!! Theyre called wandering accents and they are all over Europe but I guess Americans are stuck in their American bubble
Shallow, pretentious people “ It’s an honor to be on the cover of a magazine”
What is she supposed to say... "no, I'm not grateful to be on the cover."
I have two foreign parents and have lived in other countries and first generation Australian- apparently nobody can pick where I'm from. 🤣🤣 apparently I have an accent but not Aussie, so we are all products of our environments.
Her glam squad helped to throw them down the bankruptcy road. She is SUPERFICIAL.
The gold foil would have worked if her hair wasn’t styled so flat
And that's how u get a birkin😹😹😹😹
Val Purple, At first, I thought it was funny because she's obsessed with labels - obsessed enough to jump. But then I thought, surely there was a better cause to contribute to, than obtaining a Hermes Birkin bag, Charities are a great tax write off, and she doesn't need more bags given her recent insurance claim allowed her to acquire a whole new supply of purses.
I know this about ditzy dorit but nobody else peeped kyles walk at 5:26 😂😂😂 and it got even funnier when I sped it up 1.25x😭😭😭
She has no style Joan River's would have a field day!
Lisa giving Dorit compliments of her looks just to drag her to filth seconds later...."You are an inspiration for women over forty who just had a baby, must be some heavy spanx going on under there" women are so mean.
If I had a circle of friends that brought her in, I would have to think long and hard about that group.
i’m british and she’s never sounded british to me lmaoo she sounds like the mum in matilda
The DIFFERENCE between Erica and Dorit: Dorit has natural STYLE. Erica is STYLED. There is clear difference people. Understand that.
O. Fr I agree. Erica looks a little too contrived.
Love how kYle supports her in getting that Birkin
i love her
These comments are so mean .dorit has incredible fashion sense i do not know why she is being compared to erika . Erika style blends with her personality so does dorit both different and equally lovely and what celeb is original
I just need to know.... Why she talks like that ...
Sharni Drummond - Every viewer watching RHOBH wants to know the same thing.